You obviously haven't read the Labour amendment, because it clearly calls for a ceasefire, and does so more emphatically than the SNP motion, going even further to impress the importance of Palestinian statehood. Here is the full wording of the Labour amendment: "That this House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7th October cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to be meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour."
The people who get to ask questions petition before hand and are put on a programme list only seen by the speaker and office. If their is extra time or a particular importance they will accept more questions for MP on the Pogo. The only people during pmqs who always have question slots are 3 biggest opposition party leaders
@@REG96AV I will just add that, in that particular Prime Ministers questions they were speaking about Dianne Abbot. So it did seem a bit rude to not acknowledge her at the time.
@MnemonicNex guess your right in that situation. Lisey hoyle has acted before for the benefit of the labour party whilst speaker e.g considering the labour proposement on Gaza on a SNP oposstion day before the SNP's. Diane abbot is pretty much apposed to labour leadership as seen with how quickly she condemned labour with the miscommunication of her deselected.
@rodden1953 Abbot deserves to be ignored - a token black women in a seat so safe if she died and was stuffed the Hackney electorate would still vote for her !
His biases leaning towards the Labour Party is no big secret. Look at what he did to the SNP on the Gaza vote. Schandless. It's all about whose back can I scratch to scratch mine later politicsics. Even with the speaker. Corrupt and Bias. Two words that describe Lindsay Hoyle.
Honestly look at em all just sat there having a chuckle while country goes to shit… bloody shameful. Here an idea… less fucking talking more fucking doing!!
@@gothicgolem2947 he engineered the order of the bills so the SNP couldn't hold their motion because they knew that labour MPs would vote for it against the whip. It means he's not fit for the position
It'll last until Labour get drunk with power and suffer the same issues that most parties do when they're in power too long - leadership succession battles, corruption, scandals, recessions, wars etc.
Hoyle annoys me so much. He makes me cringe ever time he opens his mouth and spouts out his awkward crap. For a 'speaker', he has next to no oratory skills.
And the people of Chorley are left without representation for the 5th general election in a row, perhaps we should be able to vote for a speaker directly, one who doesn't have a duty to a constituency.
@@gothicgolem2947that specific PMQs centred on a racist Tory party donor's comments about her and all black women, and despite everyone talking about it she was not allowed to speak on the matter herself. It screams "we're talking about you not to you" and it stinks
Look up the rules for PMQs. Basically the people guaranteed time to ask questions (in the limited 2x15 minute sessions) are the leader of the opposition and the 2nd largest opposition party. So in the previous parliament that would have been Labour & SNP leaders, this time it will be Conservative and Liberal leaders. Beyond that it's potluck and largely depends on time. And aside from that, if she hadn't had the Labour whip withdrawn for saying some pretty indefensible things, maybe she could have had Starmer name drop her to "catch the eye" of the speaker for her own follow-up. As it was that wasn't going to happen so she took her chances like every other backbencher. And then whined about it when it didn't happen.
@@shmubob that political lexicon and groundbreaking parliamentary giant who's political journey became so offensive to the party he outgrew in character that, it seems, bully is the name by which some people who still believe tories like to use. Give me a man who understands the parliamentary fundamentals who tells you with every sylible He's a fair and just person wrapped in pint sized oratory magnificence. Than a wet, weak, and underwhelming whippet anyday.
Why anyone think they have right to serve in parliament over 30 or 40 years. Living up with public funds doing very little. They are simply denying the opportunities for the capable young people.
@hughshepherd6596he s not a scratch on berco I had the lowest expectations of berco he did well and for a Tory he was exceptional ,Hoyle on the other and is a dishonourable wimp .
yes and no...on the one hand there is something a little bit alienating about it but on the other hand it's a bit of fun - it's probably not possible to stick a camera in a room full of politicians and there not be something intrinsically weird about it - see it for what it is - it's an imperfect institution - look for a way for it to work for you...
@@daveradiators8746 Yeah, there's nothing like our elected representatives having a bit of fun as millions rely on foodbanks in 2024. Out of touch morons is what they are.
I assisted Lindsay Hoyle with his 2017 election when he was then deputy speaker. Certainly representation is an issue, I've found him chirpy and passionate about local issues and Labour policies. Alhough my Dad thinks he has too much of an ego, when he helped an independent candidate in the 2019 election. Many of our political quirks are hundreds of years old, it's good to keep some traditions, but some things need updating. It's also good to see Cat Smith finally on government benches, Kier needs bring in more of the left leaning MP's and reunite the party. I know Cat from my very first year at Lancaster university, through the universities very active Labour club.
Instead of all the bowing and recognition of power and grovelling to the king and such. How about you thank those that voted for you and reinforce, you are a public servant and the number one priority is to serve us, the common people. Starmer's speech hit completely differently to this establishment pandering.
Yeah those 75% who voted for him clearly think he's not representing them. I'm sure a cursory glance at house rules would indicate how a speaker could raise issues affecting his area without conflicting with his role as speaker. I'm also certain that he is more attentive to his constituents than a lot of other MPs unburdened by high office.
Let the I's have it, Sir Lindsey is a great choice and let's see more of the unbiased commands from him to protect dignity and the honour of Westminster whilst others disgrace it. Only if some other MPs could take a leaf out of his book then Westminster would concentrate on politics and nothing else.
Only now asking why speaker of the house isnt appointed to a civil servant who is unbiased? Surely it seems mad to appoint an MP who has a constituency to represent. Dont know why I'm thinking logically, there isnt anything logical about parliament.
Yea, I never understood this... The speaker can't debate of vote and is meant to be natural... But their constituency voted them in to represent them in parliament associated to a specific party.
I don't like how he didn't call Farage out for insulting his predecessor. Also, whats with this mother and father of the house? Is this politics or playing family?
Those are (mostly) ceremonial titles held by the MP with the longest period of uninterrupted service. Technically, there's a tie for longest period of service (with several serving MPs who have been serving since the 1983 general election), but Edward Leigh (the current title-holder) was sworn in first.
What do you think Feris is going to do? Well, shake it up, baby now, twist and shout Come on, come on, come, come on, baby, now (come on baby) Come on and work it on out (work it on out)
@@paulhammond6978 ah well, apparently I can't reply the way I wanted to They don't seem to like links So You'll have to pursue Wikipedia for Baron Doug Hoyle yourself If that's your dad, then you're a toff
@@ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ They don't allow links, but I already looked at the website. Doug was a Labour MP who basically got HoL status for being a long serving MP - Do you call Floella Benjamin a toff, or the guy who was homeless in earlier life simply because they are now Lords? Lenny Henry is a toff because he's got a knighthood? Andy Murray? Lewis Hamilton?
Sir Keir saved him and now Sir Keir has his own personal Speaker.
nah rishi made a point of "working together" nudge nudge wink wink "with the speaker".
his pet.
His prize from the friends of Israel for wrecking the ceasefire vote.
The tories wrecked that not him
You obviously haven't read the Labour amendment, because it clearly calls for a ceasefire, and does so more emphatically than the SNP motion, going even further to impress the importance of Palestinian statehood.
Here is the full wording of the Labour amendment:
"That this House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7th October cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to be meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour."
The only thing he's interested in is getting into the house next door, another waste of space.
What a fucking circus.
Guy Fawkes was unto something mate. The entire thing needs to go. Absolute circus.
How?
You should try Moscow.
this is nothing lol. come to india haha and see how parliament behaves
His dad started labour friends of Israel. Explains alot
@dondoodatNope! Friends is just a undercover word so they can get up to all kinds of illegal biddings with one another.
What an utterly ridiculous tradition!
he had blood on his hands for what he did with the opposition day to SNP
He ignored Diane Abbot not long ago when she stood up over 40 times .
The people who get to ask questions petition before hand and are put on a programme list only seen by the speaker and office. If their is extra time or a particular importance they will accept more questions for MP on the Pogo.
The only people during pmqs who always have question slots are 3 biggest opposition party leaders
@@REG96AV I will just add that, in that particular Prime Ministers questions they were speaking about Dianne Abbot. So it did seem a bit rude to not acknowledge her at the time.
@MnemonicNex guess your right in that situation. Lisey hoyle has acted before for the benefit of the labour party whilst speaker e.g considering the labour proposement on Gaza on a SNP oposstion day before the SNP's. Diane abbot is pretty much apposed to labour leadership as seen with how quickly she condemned labour with the miscommunication of her deselected.
@@MnemonicNex Thanks i couldnt remember what is was about , But i knew he should have called her.
@rodden1953 Abbot deserves to be ignored - a token black women in a seat so safe if she died and was stuffed the Hackney electorate would still vote for her !
Ridiculous so embarrassing grown adults absolutely sick of the lot of them
Now we see what Kier told him after the debacle with thr SNP.
What? That he wouldn't stand against a long standing convention of not opposing the re-election of the speaker of the house?
If Hoyle is the answer, you're asking the wrong question
The Speaker's seat isn't contested at a general election. The poor sods were lumbered with him.
He served parliament for a long time, so can he just retire and enjoy that early cup of tea in his house?
His biases leaning towards the Labour Party is no big secret. Look at what he did to the SNP on the Gaza vote. Schandless.
It's all about whose back can I scratch to scratch mine later politicsics. Even with the speaker. Corrupt and Bias. Two words that describe Lindsay Hoyle.
This is NOT right. This man should never be considered to be speaker again.
He s a creep
Honestly look at em all just sat there having a chuckle while country goes to shit… bloody shameful. Here an idea… less fucking talking more fucking doing!!
Rewarded for conspiring with Starmer to scupper the SNP Gaza ceasefire vote and ignore Diane Abbott
Looks like that Gaza vote escapade paid off for him then. Pity he cant be dragged out of the chair as well.
Yup. Absolutely disgraceful
Bro, he's still young 😉
@@biornr.4031how is it disgraceful?
Eh idk about that may have got in regardless
@@gothicgolem2947 he engineered the order of the bills so the SNP couldn't hold their motion because they knew that labour MPs would vote for it against the whip. It means he's not fit for the position
Is Sir Lindsey Hoyle really the best that the Commons can do for Speaker? He was terrible in the last Parliament.
He'll probably overrepresent Farage to appease the right.
@@markhayward7400 he's not really supposed to do anything other then say shut up.
He was terrible? How so?
@@jazztec4255 He tried to do something other than say shut up, and the SNP tried to string him up for it.
No he is not. Possibly Starmer returning the favour Hoyle did for Labour regarding ceasefire debate.
What a nonsense with Hoyle returned as Speaker I despair
Give up m8. Emigrate to the Isle o Wight.
We need Guy Fawkes to return !
Its so good to see the Tories sitting on that side of the house. Long may it last.
Huh? Tories on both sides of the house the way the Establishment likes it. Toffs rule and plebs die in gutters waiting for operations or housing 😞
@@fullovstars9447 Just stay in debt and worried how you are going to keep a roof over your head the way they like it.
It'll last until Labour get drunk with power and suffer the same issues that most parties do when they're in power too long - leadership succession battles, corruption, scandals, recessions, wars etc.
Hoyle annoys me so much. He makes me cringe ever time he opens his mouth and spouts out his awkward crap. For a 'speaker', he has next to no oratory skills.
And the people of Chorley are left without representation for the 5th general election in a row, perhaps we should be able to vote for a speaker directly, one who doesn't have a duty to a constituency.
I agree, How is this fair that almost 100,000 people are left without representation? Sad
But it’s the mother of all parliaments etc etc
He's not been speaker for 5 elections
@@joeohara3447 He’s been deputy speaker for a long time before his stint as speaker, which is still an MP’s role i believe
@@joeohara3447 he was deputy speaker for bercow so he's had to be impartial for the whole time
This is unacceptable! Britain deserves better! Not Hoyle. I am utterly disgusted in this pathetic decision...
Should of been dragged back when he avoided talking about the Gaza vote.
Oh my god not again..🙄🤦🏾♀️
Stop the world I wanna get off😆🤣
They missed a golden opportunity here, they should have had S. Flynne or D.Abbot !!!.
Yes getting threatened with going for an early cup of Tea , must strike fear into all the MPs .
Lindsay hoyle is a joke...he has helped to make the wstmonster a pantomime...
Westminster has always been a bit of a panto
@matthewlvk7366 wastemonster would be more a fitting. Do you not agree.???
Are we seriously all going to forget the utter contemptible way he treated Diane Abbott?
He did not ask her at one pmq because he ran out of time. He should have I think but it was only one time
I'm glad he did. Nobody likes that woman.
@@gothicgolem2947that specific PMQs centred on a racist Tory party donor's comments about her and all black women, and despite everyone talking about it she was not allowed to speak on the matter herself. It screams "we're talking about you not to you" and it stinks
😂😂
Look up the rules for PMQs. Basically the people guaranteed time to ask questions (in the limited 2x15 minute sessions) are the leader of the opposition and the 2nd largest opposition party. So in the previous parliament that would have been Labour & SNP leaders, this time it will be Conservative and Liberal leaders. Beyond that it's potluck and largely depends on time. And aside from that, if she hadn't had the Labour whip withdrawn for saying some pretty indefensible things, maybe she could have had Starmer name drop her to "catch the eye" of the speaker for her own follow-up. As it was that wasn't going to happen so she took her chances like every other backbencher. And then whined about it when it didn't happen.
Nope. Sorry.
Bring back Bercow.
OOOOOORRDDDAAAAAAA!!
That bully?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@shmubob that political lexicon and groundbreaking parliamentary giant who's political journey became so offensive to the party he outgrew in character that, it seems, bully is the name by which some people who still believe tories like to use.
Give me a man who understands the parliamentary fundamentals who tells you with every sylible
He's a fair and just person wrapped in pint sized oratory magnificence.
Than a wet, weak, and underwhelming whippet anyday.
@@shmubob That's right whiners for you - happy to punch down at all times, but if anyone gives them a hard time then they have a little cry.
Should have lost his job ages ago
Right Honourable Chocolate Teapot is back...
Useless Speaker. Should have lost his job ages ago.
what a backward step....is this his reward for snubbing the SNP ?
This is the first Labour mistake!!! The country despises his weakness as the Speaker of the House !!! Don't make any more mistakes so early on!!!
Pure pantomime no wonder nothing gets done. It's parliament that needs reformed.
Why anyone think they have right to serve in parliament over 30 or 40 years. Living up with public funds doing very little. They are simply denying the opportunities for the capable young people.
Dragged to the chair,mother of thehouse,father of the house,please do me a favour .These gits live in another universe.
Embarrassing these people in charge
The muppet show we are finished as a nation .
Oh fundamental, I thought he said "fucking mental" lol
Do these people live in 1400's
It's still a circus 🎪
He’s universally called into question by both sides, so I suppose he’s effective as a speaker by default.
Get rid of him.
Hear hear
@hughshepherd6596 what’s that got to do with the price of eggs? This one needs replacing…he’s a joke.
"The Gravy Train is leaving Platform 1".
@hughshepherd6596he s not a scratch on berco I had the lowest expectations of berco he did well and for a Tory he was exceptional ,Hoyle on the other and is a dishonourable wimp .
@hughshepherd6596 Don’t be silly.
Useless.
And spineless
Noooooo, he was totally useless last time
what we see as "bad" about him is also specifically why he got the job. british democracy is a joke
The speaker is a shame on your house and it's history
Looks like he got his reward for airding labour in February then
what an embarrassing load of onanistic nonsense
Well I certainly regret googling that word
yes and no...on the one hand there is something a little bit alienating about it but on the other hand it's a bit of fun - it's probably not possible to stick a camera in a room full of politicians and there not be something intrinsically weird about it - see it for what it is - it's an imperfect institution - look for a way for it to work for you...
Unkind.
Hows it embarrassing or nonsense its a cool tradition
@@daveradiators8746 Yeah, there's nothing like our elected representatives having a bit of fun as millions rely on foodbanks in 2024. Out of touch morons is what they are.
I assisted Lindsay Hoyle with his 2017 election when he was then deputy speaker. Certainly representation is an issue, I've found him chirpy and passionate about local issues and Labour policies. Alhough my Dad thinks he has too much of an ego, when he helped an independent candidate in the 2019 election. Many of our political quirks are hundreds of years old, it's good to keep some traditions, but some things need updating.
It's also good to see Cat Smith finally on government benches, Kier needs bring in more of the left leaning MP's and reunite the party. I know Cat from my very first year at Lancaster university, through the universities very active Labour club.
Absolute hilarious that the country is in the fucking toilet and they’re enjoying the absolute pantomime that the House of Commons is.
Instead of all the bowing and recognition of power and grovelling to the king and such. How about you thank those that voted for you and reinforce, you are a public servant and the number one priority is to serve us, the common people. Starmer's speech hit completely differently to this establishment pandering.
Complete pantomime.
Unless of course it's the SNP and then he's loyal to a foreign government above our own people.
Wtf is this pantomime. Just sit in the chair and get on with it.
Absolutely agree with you. Commons traditions need scrapping and Westminster needs turning into a museum. All needs modernising
@@matts2496 Do any of The Whinners actually bother to vote? If not, be quiet. If yes, put up with the process...
@@alanbeattie1470 Indeed I do vote Alan. Say, the next time you don’t agree with a system, keep to your own word and be quiet.
@alanbeattie1470 if you don't vote, you don't have a right to complain, so stfu
Ugh Postman Pat again. He was absolutely awful in the last parliament.
I bet Lindsay does a mean Michael Caine impression
That was one change they missed. He should not have back.
weak man. no wonder rishi made a point of leaning on him in his speach.
get him back out. wrong decision.
It might be a bit unfair, however, the fact that he has been praised by Nigel Farage takes away his grace
Once again the people of Chorley get no voice in Parliament
They voted for it
@@gameloser2893No, they didn't. Not really. When the speaker is running, other major candidates don't run, so the speaker wins every time.
It's such a stupid system
@@dog-jk2hn yeah because independent candidates have never gotten into parliament before
Yeah those 75% who voted for him clearly think he's not representing them. I'm sure a cursory glance at house rules would indicate how a speaker could raise issues affecting his area without conflicting with his role as speaker. I'm also certain that he is more attentive to his constituents than a lot of other MPs unburdened by high office.
Drag all these traitors to jail.
Looks like that threat/bribe worked then 🙄
Fucking really??
Are they his carers dragging him up there?
He was ONLY ASKED if he wants to carry on being the speaker.any prevarication by mps and lesley will tell them to shut up. Oh the madness of h.o.c.!!
Why on earth would they want him to be speaker again he was awful during the last parliament maybe he can pull his socks up this time
This man is a bloody disgrace his behaviour during the ceasefire in gaza debacle he belongs in the hage not in parliament shame on them all
They need to stop patting themselves on the back with all this ego boosting and get to fixing this country.
Edward Leigh is a total gammon.
Why oh why???? What a joke 🤦♀️
He looks like Postman Pat! and talks like him as well
Well spoken by all! Sadly, here in Australia we don't have this type of independent Speaker and we should!
What? A chocolate teapot? He did F all to bring or keep any order to the Tory rabble when they desperately needed bringing to heel.
I congratulate to our new
Prime mister, 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Crooks
Hopefully Sir Lindsay will be more forthcoming this parliament, as he was too much on the Tory side last time, more independent this time I hope.
Shame he has to read his speech. The speaker needs to be an orator who can command respect, sadly Hoyle is not. Weak, poor leadership.
Bring back Bercow!
Let the I's have it, Sir Lindsey is a great choice and let's see more of the unbiased commands from him to protect dignity and the honour of Westminster whilst others disgrace it. Only if some other MPs could take a leaf out of his book then Westminster would concentrate on politics and nothing else.
Only now asking why speaker of the house isnt appointed to a civil servant who is unbiased? Surely it seems mad to appoint an MP who has a constituency to represent. Dont know why I'm thinking logically, there isnt anything logical about parliament.
Yea, I never understood this... The speaker can't debate of vote and is meant to be natural... But their constituency voted them in to represent them in parliament associated to a specific party.
I don't like how he didn't call Farage out for insulting his predecessor. Also, whats with this mother and father of the house? Is this politics or playing family?
Those are (mostly) ceremonial titles held by the MP with the longest period of uninterrupted service.
Technically, there's a tie for longest period of service (with several serving MPs who have been serving since the 1983 general election), but Edward Leigh (the current title-holder) was sworn in first.
@@ParasocialCatgirl I see. Still cringe though lol
@@keifer7813 understandable
Dragging to the chair, what century are we in?
At 180,000 a year plus a good pension and great free holidays. Of course he says yes.
Complicit and enabling tory that's going to be he's legacy.
WERE DONE FOR..LOOK WHAT HAPPING IN FRANCE 😡 WAR ZONE!
With Hoyle the people of Chorley can not vote for any of the major parties so they can not have a say in whos going to run the country😢
The very sight of the embarrassing Hoyle in that role again leaves me feeling very nervous.
It's just a big club and we are not in it..
WTF is that old Tory doing as speaker Labour should have got rid of him
What do you think Feris is going to do?
Well, shake it up, baby now, twist and shout Come on, come on, come, come on, baby, now (come on baby)
Come on and work it on out (work it on out)
Total berk-out
Pathetic.
I would love to see the speaker wearing the wig again it’s been so long . Let’s see the speaker wear the wig.
Second generation privileged toff, his late father Lord Doug
Vehement friend of Israel, hence the SNP question debacle
I'm not convinced he was a toff, or privileged just because his father was also a Labour MP.
@@paulhammond6978 Baron Hoyle
If this is your Father
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Hoyle
You're a toff
@@paulhammond6978 ah well, apparently I can't reply the way I wanted to
They don't seem to like links
So
You'll have to pursue Wikipedia for Baron Doug Hoyle yourself
If that's your dad, then you're a toff
@@ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ They don't allow links, but I already looked at the website. Doug was a Labour MP who basically got HoL status for being a long serving MP - Do you call Floella Benjamin a toff, or the guy who was homeless in earlier life simply because they are now Lords? Lenny Henry is a toff because he's got a knighthood? Andy Murray? Lewis Hamilton?
@@paulhammond6978 yes
It is so embarrassing to watch this charade. A gruesome pantomime which shames us all. The sensible world should and will be laughing at us!