This is what we think, happened to the Missing Climbers on K2!

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  • After analyzing all the evidences and incidents and occurrences so far, we at Pakistan Explorer have come to the conclusion that John Snorri, Ali Sadpara and Juan Pablo Mohr were caught in the middle of a fierce storm while they were coming down from a successful summit attempt on K2.
    This explainer is a hypothesis of Pakistan Explorer and is based entirely on probability derived from the information provided by Sajid Sadpara, Elia Saikaly, Valentyn Sypavin, Hugo Ayaviri and many other climbers and eyewitnesses in recent days.
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  • @PakistanexplorerTM
    @PakistanexplorerTM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

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    • @SheriffofYouTube
      @SheriffofYouTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think you should stop going for bottleneck and just goto C3 then down. sounds like a shitty fun time

  • @lapleesa
    @lapleesa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    A 44 year old who has six children has absolutely no business trying to summit K2 in winter. No mountain is more important than your children. My heart hurts for that poor family.

    • @pascalmaier6581
      @pascalmaier6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jimmy Dingle what a stupid reply. Climbing K2 is like a death wish, one person out of five dies. You can do shit like this if u don't have anyone who cares about you, but if u have 6 children this is very selfish.

    • @pascalmaier6581
      @pascalmaier6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Jimmy Dingle read my comment again, i never wrote that you should only climb mountains if no one cares about you. But maybe you should not climb a mountain with a 20%-25% death rate. There are many other mountains which are much safer

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@pascalmaier6581 1 out of 5? So climbing it is along the lines of playing Russian Roulette.

    • @jonyjoe8464
      @jonyjoe8464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      the mountain has to be climb no matter what. A mountaineer will choose this over anything else everytime. The wife knew this before she married him, that climbing mountains was in his blood, his family has to honor him for his sacrifice...He died doing what he was born to do, he died with his mountain boots on, is there a better way to go?
      What is left unsaid is did he get the covid vaccine ? maybe that weakened his body, the true cause will never be knowned.

    • @robocoastie
      @robocoastie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aren’t you the judge of others lives Rubybird. You do realize you have a greater chance of being killed driving down the road right?

  • @TheLyndsey123
    @TheLyndsey123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Pakistan should award the bravery of someone who chose to help, rather than walk away.
    "The Highest of Honour"

    • @purselmer5931
      @purselmer5931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And bravery to those who turn around and choose their life, and the lives of others, over this toxic obsession. Trying to summit K2 in the winter is having a death wish. 1 in 4 K2 climbers DIE. This is madness and nothing more.

  • @waqasmir76
    @waqasmir76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Only a Bolivian can be so nice, thank you Hugo.

    • @adrians.7489
      @adrians.7489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My hats off to my fellow Bolivian and also to my good friend Elia.

  • @kenhiett5266
    @kenhiett5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    K2 is an incredibly dangerous mountain even in the most accessible season. I can't imagine facing this beast in the winter. I don't chastise others for taking risks, because that's a personal decision, but you better get your affairs in order, and tell your loved ones goodbye if you're going to attempt this mountain in January/February.

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "For every 20 people who summit Everest, only one summits K2. ... It's also one of the most dangerous mountains in the world - the fatality rate on K2 is 25%, compared to the 6.5% of Everest." Imagine doing something that has just a 75% survival rate or has that 25% death rate, that's 1/4 worse than Russian roulette. People talk about Everest but K2 is exceedingly dangerous. Known as : Qogir Feng, also called Mount Godwin Austen, called locally Dapsang or Chogori.

    • @PetraKann
      @PetraKann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@VenturiLife the savage mountain.
      Only one mountain is statistically more dangerous - Annapurna I.
      Russian Roulette statistics are 1 in 6 or 16.667% chance of death

    • @wapiti3750
      @wapiti3750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The idiots will keep climbing, and a good many will die. Their likely rationale is that if they don't climb in winter without oxygen, then their accomplishment is diminished and not worthy to brag about.

    • @sadiasuleman1102
      @sadiasuleman1102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So scary

    • @wapiti3750
      @wapiti3750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@DonWyo I guess that would qualify me as a certified moron! 😃

  • @ashykhan8071
    @ashykhan8071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Give Hugo a medal 🏅 what some people do to help others by putting ter own lives at risk.amazing true heroes him and Sajid. Love from all Pakistan 🇵🇰

    • @chriskelly7398
      @chriskelly7398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. A fantastic man who risked his life to help get the body to a suitable place to be buried.

  • @masoodkhan427
    @masoodkhan427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Thank you for the video …HUGO …YOU ARE NOW A LIVING LEGEND FOR PAKISTANIS ….WHAT YOU DID FOR SAJID SADPARRA AND HIS FAMILY WILL BE REMEMBERED IN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY FOREVER …I HEREBY RECOMMEND HUGO FOR THE AWARD OF UTMOST BRAVERY AND COURAGE …AND I STAND UP TO APPLAUD YOUR HEROICS 👏👏👏💪💪💪

  • @tajammal40
    @tajammal40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pakistan is indebted to Hugo for putting his life at risk to rescue the dead body of our national hero. Mr. Hugo rightly deserves a civil award and appreciation from government and people of Pakistan.

  • @louisjamesreeves
    @louisjamesreeves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Honor Hugo Pakistan!!! that dude risked his life to bring the hero home! God bless those who give of their heart and soul!

  • @sahiljaswal3560
    @sahiljaswal3560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Great explanation 🙌🏻 Being from India, I prayed alot when ali and other climbers were lost on K2. Even tracked every video of their rescue mission by pak air force and prayed they were allright. He was a great cheering and happy guy who lived his life to the fullest. Watching his videos shows how gem of a person he was. Kudos to his son ! and i even heard the other filming guy and his sherpa didnt helped his son in bringing the body to Camp 4. Mountain world lost a legend but yes he is resting at perfect place now 🙏🏻 Ali should b a perfect Icon for the youth of pakistan. Its perfect they kept Skardu airport on his name now 🙌🏻

    • @jimlawson7789
      @jimlawson7789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he is not resting in a perfect place. He is as cold and dead as a bug on your windshield. Every culture comes up with a Santa like story of what happens when you die. Nothing happens, you just die. The same as all of gods creatures in the forest who get eaten alive. Gods grand plan. Lol.

    • @robhenningsen6210
      @robhenningsen6210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh. Thanks. Looks like you have it all figured out. Hahahaha

  • @mrchairman1075
    @mrchairman1075 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An informative, thoughtful and well put together video thank you for sharing.
    I'm not sure what those leaving negative comments about climbing K2 in winter hope to achieve.
    Mountaineers who are going to do this aren't interested in your opinions and wouldn't pay the slightest bit of attention to you and neither would I.
    K2 is for people who want to push the boundaries and thank God such people exist.
    I look forward to my own expedition there in 2023 and wish all those who will be there with me every success.

    • @PakistanexplorerTM
      @PakistanexplorerTM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Goodluck and stay safe!

    • @Deniz_Ozbek
      @Deniz_Ozbek ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you, but you sound like most mountaineers before an accident, whom afterwards disasters or accidents say "if i knew that it would price would be my fingers, toes, hands feet, i would not have done it.. And thats only the lucky ones. No mountain is worth your one life. Thats what intelligent mountaineers say. And trying k2 I definately agree is an acomplishment, but the truth is, if you have a family, you have no business on that mountain. If you have a family its no longer mountaineering but nothing but selfishness.

    • @slipslider9048
      @slipslider9048 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those people who say “I won’t listen to you” and “it’s my decision if I want to risk my life” also want others to risk their lives to save them when everything goes wrong. They also want the taxpayer to pay for helicopter assisted rescue too. It’s a stupid and highly selfish endeavour grounded in pure ego.

  • @umairather8178
    @umairather8178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Completely speechless...... Just visualizing the scenario I'm feeling haunted..... They were in that situation really tough these mountaineers are...... Amazing guy who helped sajid sadpara to bring the body down...... This help is higher than the height of K2.... May Allah keep the souls of all mountaineers who lost their lives there at K2.... In eternal peace...... ameen

  • @javiervalcan6824
    @javiervalcan6824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Pakistani Explorer, thanks so much x bringing us this video we were awaiting so much. All what I read and after hearing your clear explanation talks about a very dramatic event surrounded by an absolut epopey of braveness and heroic struggle from the - now- mythical climbers. I'm sure the venturous spirit of these three great human beings must rise up higher than K2 summit and should be honoured as one of the most remarkable stories of world wide mountaineering, showing that the struggle for a dream is always the ultimate price to pay for inmortality. The bodies stay forever at the white but the Spirits of these ones will blow eternally over the top of the world. Thanks again and we will follow any new info from you and those who remain requesting on the possible evidences up to rise of what really happened...may God keep them in peace and in the glory of His presence! 🙏🏼

  • @fjdididiididid1238
    @fjdididiididid1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great story. Terrific and respectful presentation as well. RIP. Unbelievable retrieval by Hugo.

  • @JustBrowsing777
    @JustBrowsing777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for bringing some clarity to the past winters events on K2.

  • @mikaailahmed5679
    @mikaailahmed5679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Thanks for trying to bring us this information and a bit of closure about the events of that night. We lost 3 heroes, but their legacy will remain tied with the story of K2 forever.

    • @the_original_skytiger
      @the_original_skytiger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Heroes? lmao

    • @DulceN
      @DulceN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Heroes? The Serbian who died first on the Bottleneck tried to bypass other climbers; stupid move that cost him his life. Then, more people died trying to bring his body down…. Not my idea of a hero… Besides, these people know what they are facing when trying to reach those peaks and they do it for their own pleasure, ego trips, or whatever, not to save Humanity or any worthy cause.

    • @prhanson
      @prhanson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Nineteen Eighty4 These guys could be good people, may not be. Dying on a mountain that many have already climbed does not make you a hero. Our society has a very skewed perspective of what a "hero" actually means. Great achievement but certainly not heroic.

    • @prhanson
      @prhanson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Nineteen Eighty4 Maybe these guys are all heroes in life, I don't know their stories, this is true. The of climbing a mountain does not make they heroes or heroic. Climbing K2 makes them more of mountaineers than those who climb Everest. They are certainly more motivated than I am, here sitting on my couch. Does that make they more heroic than someone who may be home sitting on their couch watching this video and commenting...?

    • @prhanson
      @prhanson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Nineteen Eighty4 Duh...that is exactly what I expected from you.

  • @Hellridermetal
    @Hellridermetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    thanks for the news, this incident deeply affected three nations. greetings from Chile!.

  • @lonia.5283
    @lonia.5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for explaining what have may happened as i followed this expedition as it unfolded. May they all rest in peace. 🙏

  • @robocoastie
    @robocoastie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this eye opening account. I love living vicariously through hiking and mountain explorers

  • @qa7103
    @qa7103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    brilliantly simple and to the point narration, we need more people like you!

    • @virgilflowers9846
      @virgilflowers9846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? This guy is fantastic at presenting this information

  • @yasminjaved4463
    @yasminjaved4463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hugo you are a hero thanks brother for sharing this video we have a great respect for you and I request the Pakistan authorityies to respect Hugo’s efforts and present him with the award for what he did for our hero

  • @NasirKhan-ix1he
    @NasirKhan-ix1he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Dragging a deadbody across bottleneck traverse is something and that too on the descent. It is very steep and you have to move from left to right. Just see the steepness at 12.40 of this video. The guys certainly put their own lives in danger.

    • @pugilemoltobene3708
      @pugilemoltobene3708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree, it’s incredible…recovering bodies usually involves sliding with ropes…bodies-on-belay….

    • @shoshonesasquatch1642
      @shoshonesasquatch1642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 0 experience climbing huge mountains so if my question sounds ignorant it's because it is. But to get bodies off of really steep mountains, why can't they anchor the longest rope, or even multiple ropes tied together, and lower the bodies with a rope and pulley system where there is no lateral movement just straight down?

    • @NasirKhan-ix1he
      @NasirKhan-ix1he 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shoshonesasquatch1642 It is not a straight line down like a building so you need to put in multiple anchors at different points. Not a straight forward task due to lack of resources on the mountain and risks of anchoring at different points.
      For climbers they do put in place a fixed line rope which is tied to them but that is used only as a back up for safety. They don't use that in their climbing.

  • @adellemery3336
    @adellemery3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    what's unfortunate is the need to put others' lives in danger to retrieve a body. All K2 climbers know the mountain has the last word. You lie where you die--don't take others with you.

    • @charlesfaure1189
      @charlesfaure1189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It would never occur to me to ask someone to risk their life to retrieve one of my dead loved ones.

    • @adellemery3336
      @adellemery3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@charlesfaure1189 Agreed. If I'm climbing K2, then I and I alone am responsible for any negative consequences. To have others pay for my adrenalin-rush is pure selfishness.

    • @mysticmian7931
      @mysticmian7931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I respectfully disagree!
      The boy showed insane patience, and composure after coming back from the mountain. The media, the politicians, everyone put pressure on him and he remained calm.
      My point being, that no matter how calm you are and how reasonable your decisions are, when you see your own father's body just lying there in the open snow, you break down. He didn't force Hugo to help him. He asked for the help, and hugo voluntarily accepted. And to be very clear, they were actually there to find the bodies. The whole expedition was based around this mission of finding the three climbers.

    • @adellemery3336
      @adellemery3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mysticmian7931 Climbing K2 is beyond dangerous. When a climber makes that choice, then the consequences of that choice should fall only on that person's shoulders. My guess is that most climbers who die on K2's or Everest's slopes would choose--if they could--to remain where they died. I know I would find comfort in that thought if someone I loved died in the endeavor to fulfill a life's passion.

    • @mysticmian7931
      @mysticmian7931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adellemery3336 well that's a positive way to view things and I totally agree.

  • @bradalexander63
    @bradalexander63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That distance from the bottle neck to the traverse is one big snowball. It's amazing not more pass on, there.

  • @jadecraig9830
    @jadecraig9830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice of You ... You are finding the best words to describe this drama

  • @thewatchman1078
    @thewatchman1078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this fascinating and tragic beautifully told. Take care on your climbs.

  • @gareth7574
    @gareth7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the heartfelt video. What a terrible tragedy.

  • @Papershields001
    @Papershields001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is a sad story, I hope knowing what happened helps to bring the families some peace.

  • @criticaltlr1
    @criticaltlr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing story, heroic, thank you for sharing x

  • @rchristy4540
    @rchristy4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doing it without oxygen is asking for trouble. It risks everybody else's safety. If you're going to act like a "hero", you better be able to save yourself.

    • @abdulazuzadel4768
      @abdulazuzadel4768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is just their personal preference. Those, diving with oxygen would tell you about effect it has on human body. This why some climbers prefer taking it slowly and going without.

  • @peacequiet
    @peacequiet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a sweet gentle soul.

  • @QQ-my2rq
    @QQ-my2rq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s so sad to see that a father of SIX children made so stupid irresponsible decision that made his children orphaned. Sorry for those children and their mom.

  • @1719456
    @1719456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One in four climbers who summit K2. perish. My mind is incapable of fathoming the thought process of these Men & Women. To say that they are of a ''different breed'' is a mind boggling understatement. I suppose we owe a debt of gratitude to the adventuress souls who brave near certain death to go beyond what seems impossible, regardless of the motivation. They are cut from the same cloth as the Explorers of old, who ventured to the open Seas to see what is beyond the horizon.

  • @rahemiin7
    @rahemiin7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    JizakAllah for this.Closure.. there are so many "I wish"es... :(
    Lady K2 Allowed the bodies to be seen even thats a miracle!

  • @MsRosiecat
    @MsRosiecat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How terrible for the climbers & their loved ones. RIP.

  • @hc_ox4842
    @hc_ox4842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think they took much longer to reach the summit. It’s a popular misconception that the summit is right above the traverse, it isn’t.. it’s about 1.5-2 hrs away from the traverse. It also makes little sense as to why they would take oxygen off before they are empty. Ive never heard of someone doing that.. I’ve heard of oxygenless ascents where they stash their packs with below summit slopes… but not with oxygen

  • @slackjaw703
    @slackjaw703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow! Hugo is a man among men! The utter bravery, compassion & courage it took (not to mention skill & luck) is simply hard to comprehend. My hate is certainly off to him! Give him all the accolades we can!

    • @dunruden9720
      @dunruden9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My hate????????

    • @slackjaw703
      @slackjaw703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dunruden9720
      Yeah, it’s called a typo. Should’ve read hat, as was obvious to all but pre-teens who may not be familiar with that particular statement. Sorry you are so easily confused.

    • @elvarg991
      @elvarg991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@slackjaw703 You can edit the original message.

    • @pammaggio8135
      @pammaggio8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dunruden9720 …duh… it’s clearly a typo… he Ovb meant “hats”…

  • @no1cares965
    @no1cares965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The father sent his son down alone with no oxygen whilst suffering from altitude sickness and then carried on to summit?

  • @frankzappa951
    @frankzappa951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As Salaamualaikum brother. Great work. Keep it up and take good care Insha’Allah

  • @idontextback
    @idontextback 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It saddens me that so many climbers refuse to follow basic mountaineering safety and life-saving guidelines.

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's even worse on My. Everest with so many tour guides trying to make money that they don't even care that most of their clients have NEVER climbed anything before. I can't fathom the laziness of some people...

    • @insanepromultimedia
      @insanepromultimedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it seems easy to follow but thinking clearly at 8000+ after weeks of treking and climbing is not so easy

  • @o0KugelkaktuS0o
    @o0KugelkaktuS0o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    ok...obviously, I was not there and I don't know what really happened. but what I do not understand is HOW people can let someone who has already a headache and is maybe hallucinating, go down alone. Isn't that the first rule, that you adjust to the 'weakest' in the group and that you don't leave a person behind, even if that means you will not reach the top.

    • @skullsaintdead
      @skullsaintdead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think this Ytber is being especially kind to the deceased Pakistani climber, Ali. His son, Sajid, said Ali told him they must make it up there, without O's, because the Nepalese had done it a few weeks earlier and this was "their mountain" (K2). So, I'd guess, the father was being pretty foolish and egocentric. After Sajid said the Os weren't working his dad called back 'don't worry, keep climbing, you'll feel better'. Nonsensical. Hearing the sons account, made me wonder why some people have kids (guessing: conservative family, social norms, 'furthering bloodlines' masculine nonsense). I can only imagine how awful the poor kid must feel, thank goodness he survived & disregarded his dads advice.

  • @gul-erana2790
    @gul-erana2790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Government should honor Hogo for his effort to bring the body downward

  • @chriscash5350
    @chriscash5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best case explanation.... Don't climb up into places that will kill you. I'm not a rocket scientist but I'm confident that my findings are secure.

  • @aggressivearies
    @aggressivearies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RIP to all three John Snorri, Muhammad Ali Sadpara and Juan Pablo.

  • @MiuMiu-dq6xt
    @MiuMiu-dq6xt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your reports, don't stop!

  • @commentsectionsexsymbol6011
    @commentsectionsexsymbol6011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Outstanding show of the human spirit hugo good job

  • @Saqab23
    @Saqab23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great effort. I agree he must be acknowledged.

  • @Never_nameU
    @Never_nameU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for letting us know ..probably what happened on sad day

  • @Chief-Solarize
    @Chief-Solarize 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Much respect to those guys

  • @vg5858
    @vg5858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you from Iceland ❤🇮🇸

  • @seanthompson258
    @seanthompson258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    thx for sharing this info respect to these guys for what they do these are very special mountains i think they are crazy but i have great respect for what they do!!!

    • @TheSubieFan
      @TheSubieFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk how I feel since I haven't climbed a 8km peak yet but some of the unavoidable risk is very interesting and concerning. I would be interested in doing a massive summit and seeing where I stand on it. Everyone I've read about always seems extremely experienced and knowledgeable.

  • @alamazhar2441
    @alamazhar2441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think we all should wait for Sajid to tell us the real story....

  • @twilightpurpleglow
    @twilightpurpleglow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My respects to all Mountaineers, Climbers and Trekkers. We have one life to live; live your dream.

  • @CatchingCharkraLight
    @CatchingCharkraLight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The savage mountain strikes again..

  • @philipford6183
    @philipford6183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It wasn't heroic to fetch the body down from near the summit. It was foolish and potentially fatal. They got away with it this time, but honouring their bravery will just encourage others to try this again in another incident in the future - and fate is very likely to not be so kind again.
    There should be a written law in high-altitude mountaineering: if you go up and get into serious difficulty, nobody's coming to rescue you. If you go up and perish, nobody's coming to bring your body down. Too many climbers and sherpas have perished on these fool's errands.

    • @robydee920
      @robydee920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There should be a written law that if ever you were in need of help nobody should help you because of your fool's errand because if you get hart attack,it's yours fool errand to not take more care of your health,if you had car accident again it's your fool errand because you cause it,if you didn't cause it than again it was yours fool errand to not pay attention on other uncareful drivers,if it's car malfunction again it's your fool errand to not take care of your car,if someone shoot you it's your fool errand to not pay attention to dangerous people around you.There's enough heroes who want to help and first responders who perished or have big psychical problems(ptsd being one of them,depression another etc...).Did you sent one € not hundreds if your so worry and so sorry(I know you didn't sleep last few nights just thinking about those people)for the loss of their lives and lost of probably the only provider for that Sherpas family that you mentioned.But I give it to you,you're obviously practising virtue signaling,not bad,not bad at all.

    • @dbcooper8927
      @dbcooper8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@robydee920 Nice one sunshine! Yeah, that other bloke was a bit of a ShitGibbon....

    • @Dee-nonamnamrson8718
      @Dee-nonamnamrson8718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dbcooper8927 Picturing a literal shitgibbon has been the highlight of my night.

    • @pammaggio8135
      @pammaggio8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @RJ-se9op
      @RJ-se9op 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always one of you

  • @danthomas9170
    @danthomas9170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are nuts
    But what a great and inspirational story of bravery and of valor.

  • @simonmcnicholas
    @simonmcnicholas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Death is tragic, but considering we all have to die at some point, at least these people died doing what they loved, and their names will be forever bound to the unforgiving summit of K2
    RIP brothers

  • @maritzagonzalez1284
    @maritzagonzalez1284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you my friend for the information you passed on to us who was wondering what really happened to these great mountaineers.
    I wish you the best of luck on the journey you plan to achieve to give them a proper memorial.

  • @sharkuify
    @sharkuify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heroic effort!

  • @Bbknuckles
    @Bbknuckles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You’d think mountaineers would learn by now that unnecessary risks = death. Of course everyone who climbs takes risks but those are usually (USUALLY) calculated risks.

    • @jarnold1789
      @jarnold1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it's sad. In this case it seems like they knowingly walked into almost certain death. I don't understand why they would keep pushing to the summit knowing they would have to descend in the dark

    • @connorcoultas9629
      @connorcoultas9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jarnold1789 Climb down in the dark and in a blizzard. That is information that well before the summit they would have known.

    • @jarnold1789
      @jarnold1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorcoultas9629 You mean that they knew they would have to do that? Yeah it all seems like a grave miscalculation

    • @connorcoultas9629
      @connorcoultas9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jarnold1789 Yes I was adding on to you.
      For as experienced as they were they should have known better at some point before it was too late.

    • @jarnold1789
      @jarnold1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@connorcoultas9629 Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah couldn't agree more. Probably a case of "group think" causing people to follow along, also altitude. Scary

  • @waqasanjum8564
    @waqasanjum8564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What actullay did Sajid and Hugo on that traverse is amazing and legendary move this picture is skaring people how can you move on this narrow path and you have a dead body with you ohhh.. what did they do must be remember for a long time Salute to Sajid and Hugo amazing people you are.

  • @sandyhill1392
    @sandyhill1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your channel, you seem like such a nice and real man!

  • @kimmccabe1422
    @kimmccabe1422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Majority of K2 climbers do not use oxygen. In fact, almost all. That's why you climb for a month, lil height by lil, to get body use to thin air, before making for camp 4 and summit

    • @PakistanexplorerTM
      @PakistanexplorerTM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than 40 climbers scaled K2 last Summers (the highest for K2). Sadly most of them were using O2

  • @sadiasuleman1102
    @sadiasuleman1102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a scary look of mountain, I can’t believe the mountaineers take so much risk in January and February months on such deadly

  • @talkinghead3169
    @talkinghead3169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Everyone should be like Hugo!

  • @susanappleby2414
    @susanappleby2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this. It’s a tragedy for all.

  • @westtibetanadami6717
    @westtibetanadami6717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    appreciable initiative.

  • @Whyusemyname
    @Whyusemyname 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You just gave me a great idea. I’m going to have a fund raiser so I can go to Hawaii and pay tribute to the soldiers who died at Pearl Harbor.

  • @19Kamau79
    @19Kamau79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Maybe all summited and Ali advised non O2 climber JP descent first and he hold up and supported John Snorri before temperature dropped too low and they all finally perished.

  • @lizbmusic11
    @lizbmusic11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sad for your loss. But climbers should never "attack" a mountain. Poor choice of words. The mountain will attack back. Maybe time for reflection. It seems mountaineering is all about ego and no respect.

    • @corregoj
      @corregoj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree.

    • @connorcoultas9629
      @connorcoultas9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their egos got them killed. They knew the weather would be bad. They ran out of time several hours before reaching the summit, AND they would have known that.
      They pushed on anyways knowing it would be dark in blizzard conditions and they went anyways.
      I feel terribly for them but they had to have taken unnecessary risks along the way.

  • @ProfessionalJerry
    @ProfessionalJerry ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro! You always talk about interesting and intriguing things. Love your channel

  • @robertcretu4363
    @robertcretu4363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I m not a climber but I don t think JP Mohr fell. He walked knowing very well that stopping meant certain death. That part of K2 doesn’t seem to be steep enough to tumble down. Just an opinion from someone that’s never been above 3k but watched pretty much everything there is on k2.

    • @NasirKhan-ix1he
      @NasirKhan-ix1he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree. Looks like they all died of hypothermia or due to spending too much time in death zone where oxygen is scarce.

    • @editorial.nascimento
      @editorial.nascimento 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If he had fallen from such heights, the damage would be plainly visible, so I have to agree with your observation.

    • @NasirKhan-ix1he
      @NasirKhan-ix1he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-if1de8pt2j in most cases the fall from bottleneck will throw you sideways i.e. off from the main route. But his body was found near shoulder on main abruzzi route.

    • @NasirKhan-ix1he
      @NasirKhan-ix1he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-if1de8pt2j No I haven't read it so far, but saw several videos on 2008 tragedy. You see many climbers were hit by serac collapse in 2008 and their bodies went sideways. You could not find bodies of Ger Mcdonnell, Rolf Bae and few others that were hit by bottleneck serac fall. Similarly another guy who had a fall in later year from bottleneck Fredrik Ericsson's body went down about 1000 meters. So going by that I doubt if JP fell from bottleneck.

    • @guardaresano449
      @guardaresano449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NasirKhan-ix1he guys but they did achived the summit?

  • @christopherframe7054
    @christopherframe7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    moral of the story, don't take a break, it could be your last

  • @ajaypalsinghgrewal2949
    @ajaypalsinghgrewal2949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hair raising experience...... RIP all three.... Super humans....

  • @tylerhair9067
    @tylerhair9067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Climbing K2 in February? Insanity.

  • @nightwaves3203
    @nightwaves3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mountains are the heavy machinery of earth but more dangerous with their unpredictable extreme weather.

  • @ghristpoherhithchensii2883
    @ghristpoherhithchensii2883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great,great, channel!! Thank you!!

  • @veniceagua-tomelden4380
    @veniceagua-tomelden4380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best narration ever 😊

  • @sheva_sd
    @sheva_sd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to Pakistan from Azerbaijan ♥️

  • @alek_rmd
    @alek_rmd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Attack the mountain? I don't think it goes like that my friend.

  • @ToysRUsKid_Critter
    @ToysRUsKid_Critter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip peace. They died where they were happiest.. great analysis . My deepest condolences

  • @bandofbros8112
    @bandofbros8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have no ambition to climb K2 ever 😅
    I am happy with my 1-3km climbs haha.

  • @xyzimagenes
    @xyzimagenes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think JP reached the summit and died on his way back to camp 4

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alex Sickshow do we know the position of their bodies when they were found?

    • @PakistanexplorerTM
      @PakistanexplorerTM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      of all the climbers, Ali would have known that no help can possibly reach them so there is no point of sending anyone for help.

  • @dharmikmodi8565
    @dharmikmodi8565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadpara is a legend.. Respect from India

  • @hassanrazahassanraza2359
    @hassanrazahassanraza2359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Very useful info..

  • @TNM001
    @TNM001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    these incidents give climbers a bad reputation for being reckless, thats not good for the community.
    i take issue with calling them "heroes". i really do. heroes implies doing something right and paying the price. they did nothing right that day. thus, we should NOT take them as example.
    even the rescue of the dead body was reckless, ppl have died doing the same, and for what? a funeral in camp 4?
    i could list everything they did wrong...but its pretty self evident, and i hope ppl LEARN from it instead of false worship and patriotism.

  • @Kraskata1000
    @Kraskata1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the best explanation i heard thank you for sharing this details
    But maybe we'll never find out what happened to the bulgarian climber ...
    all we could do is to let them rest in peace

  • @mosilflutil10
    @mosilflutil10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering the amount of accidents that have taken place in recent years and the level of general awareness about what not to do , this sounds like very reckless behaviour.

    • @thomasg5554
      @thomasg5554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. The K2 bottleneck is nothing else than russian roulette, and the odds are probably the same with one bullet loaded in the gun. Ice can fall at any time during the traverse going up or coming down, and there is nothing that can be done regardless of courage, heroism or whatever personal goal you're sugar coating this fact with. There is nothing heroic about playing russian roulette, it's just stupid, same goes for traversing the bottleneck. Opinion of a nobody, for what it's worth... if anyone goes for it, best of luck. Good vid and explanation Pakistan Explorer.

  • @truthneverchangeswakeup2762
    @truthneverchangeswakeup2762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only a fool would attempt to climb any of those mountains prior to April! To attempt to climb K2 or Everest in February are you out of your mind?

  • @TitusFFM
    @TitusFFM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So by minute 2:20 they are already doomed or you start to understand why they where doomed. I'm not a climber but common sense should kick in. If you already had to share your tent with less sleep the physical stress on your body less oxygen in your system and other fatigue that where possible going on physically and mentally let's be honest you are fucked. Yet they decide to go up well wrong judgement, ego or whatever drove them killed them. Just sorry for the people. At least this is my understanding of the situation and no i don't make fun of the people who died there. It's just a very sad story.

    • @Vertikala-pc5ig
      @Vertikala-pc5ig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And similar situation happened many times before and people don’t learn

    • @wl9399
      @wl9399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lisa Thompson, a female mountaineer who had conquer K2", on her blog from few years ago, she talked about "honest to yourself" at the critical moment. It has a very profound impact on me. I think this sentence can be interpreted in many way depends on who you are and what is your ultimate goal. Nevertheless it is so sad.

  • @westtibetanadami6717
    @westtibetanadami6717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The real leader sacrifice first at the front. RIP Ali Sadpara and Jhon Snuri.... Sajid as leader succeed in finding the death bodies also

  • @yasarmo
    @yasarmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3 experienced climbers misjudged the weather So badly... sounds hard to believe.

    • @Bella.216
      @Bella.216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's not unbelievable, many and I mean many experienced climbers have miss judged weather. They also summited way to late exspecally in the winter. Add to that not using oxygen and severely exhausted it's a dangerous combination. They had summit fever, I think if this wasn't their 3rd attempt at k2 then they probably would have went down to camp 3 with the others. They are heroes in my eyes. Same went with Mallory and Irvine caught in the white out conditions.

    • @PakistanexplorerTM
      @PakistanexplorerTM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also there are no 100% accurate weather predictions especially in Karakorum

    • @madwax4771
      @madwax4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats K2 for you

    • @dingomine
      @dingomine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PakistanexplorerTM Good point and totally true, K2 is the most unpredictable of all 8000ers in terms of weather, especially in winter and even applying current technology

    • @trenthari
      @trenthari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah even when I was in Denali, the weather forecast was wildly wrong about half the time. It would say there was a storm the next day, and it was perfectly clear and windstill all day, and vice versa. The weather is so unpredictable up there

  • @ErinRenee1990
    @ErinRenee1990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very intriguing information.

  • @TheBundesaufsicht
    @TheBundesaufsicht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any news about John's GoPro?

  • @perrydoig2872
    @perrydoig2872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hugo should be up for a piolet d’or for his efforts. Granted, it’s almost certainly going to go to Nims and the rest of the Sherpa climbers who successfully summited this winter, but Hugo deserves some serious acknowledgement for his decision to help.

  • @smokejaguarsix7757
    @smokejaguarsix7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on Pakistan! You guys don't have a stellar reputation in the world right now. Do the right thing. Support these humanitarians and their efforts to recover and honor their dead.

  • @shaunhunter5850
    @shaunhunter5850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great expertise and insight, enjoying your channel

  • @Truth1561
    @Truth1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t understand why someone would send their so - showing dangerous signs of altitude sickness-back on his own . Only if you would impede his progress, surely? So many bad decisions in these ‘accidents’.
    I also think there are much worthier causes than funding someone to jaunt back to ‘pay tribute’.

    • @PakistanexplorerTM
      @PakistanexplorerTM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We know sending Sajid back was the right decision. He is alive to tell the tale!

  • @vijaydas7590
    @vijaydas7590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am quite skeptic if Mr sadpara even made it to the peak.

  • @Samurai78420
    @Samurai78420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When such incredibly brave souls intersect with so much loss on a pretty regular basis.... 😞🙏