HOW DID THESE INCREDIBLE YU-GI-OH! DECKS... go completely undiscovered in the OCG?
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Wow, didn't think that moment at 1:57 was at all likely until today, but uh...
U.S.A! U.S.A!
USA TCG USA! OCG has been proven worse by worlds. Maybe after this they’ll ban max c and start playing real yugioh again XD
Can't we all just call TCG Western Yu-Gi-Oh! And OCG Eastern Yu-Gi-Oh! ? I mean, the terms fit themselves like gloves.
Western influence aka Christianity + Judaism + Europeans and their colonization whatever whatever = TCG and Eastern influence aka from a westerner pov anything not western is OCG (but it'd be the different alphabets, Hinduism, xintoism, Buddhism, idk why religion is so good at delineating these wide regional cultural differences.
@@afeathereddinosaurSir this is a Wendy's
U.S.A ! U.S.A !
Let's go Brandon!! Let's go Brandon!!
APOLLO COMING IN FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH THE RED DODGEBALL
I remember people who went to worlds in 2019 commenting that every single japanese player was caught off guard by Neo-Space Connector summoning Aqua Dolphin in Gouki lists, which was widely considered by many the best way to play Gouki at the time because it provided perfect knowledge of the opponent's hand, while also removing problematic hand traps and being a one card Isolde. AND THE OCG PLAYERS DIDNT EVEN READ THEM
OCG Players read less than TCG players?!
@@megamask3158
In their defense… Kanji is hard.
You can still call them Twitter threads if you want. You don't have to let their rebranding stick.
Quit deadnaming 🙄
@@idoasichooseL
arguable its the moral correct thing to do cause it will make musk super angry knowing his shitty rebranding is absolutely not working
I turned off auto-updates on my Twitter app settings just in time lmao, we’ll see how long I can keep it like that until it doesn’t function
When will Twitter threads come back?
Wait do they not teach Europeans that Europe was founded in 1848 by Walker Texas Ranger when he rode a horse across the Atlantic? Like, EU stands for "Eastern USA". So idk why using the TCG and America interchangeably is an issue
ok now i feel stupid. i always thought EU stands for "extended universe" and was founded by the greatest american of all time: Jesus Christ🤔🤔
Anytime the topic of Adamancipator in TCG vs OCG comes up all I can think is "wait, you mean the synchro based combo deck didn't work very well under master rule 4 but was a lot more successful under master rule 5? I'm shocked."
To me the weirdest deck that was a big hit in the tcg but didn't convert overseas is Danger Thunder. Since dangers were tcg exclusives they took a while to arrive in the ocg in their extra pack, when they did, ocg players ignored thunder combos and instead focused on playing dangers with dark world, which ironically was the thing that got their gumblar banned.
Iirc, by the time danger come to OCG, TD already heavy hit with some of thier main deck monster limited to 1, which hamper it consistency a lot.
The way Joseph made the clear distinctions between OCG and TCG makes me think he got into a discussion with Rata about Eldlich or Exosisters being the gayest cards, lost to superior Backwater Eastern Europe Post-Soviet country arguments and is now trying to get back at him
Have MBT and Rata collabed?
Could just be that Europeans are obnoxious as all buggery about any topic, literally any topic, and MBT is just as sick of that nonsense as anyone else in the States.
Joshua Schmidts team clapping at MD Worlds with him on Runick Naturia was beautiful.
That Runick conclusion hitting pretty hard at Master Duel worlds today.
It was glorious. OCG players mind broken. I wonder if they will actually practice with Runick now instead of just playing it as a bad Stun deck.
@@orga7777 "There are decks besides Tear and Spright!?"
- OCG players
@@megamegasamx1014 Same thing happened in regular yugioh ocg player were still running tear
which match? can you share a link?
@@jonanderirureta8331 it's all one vod I'm not looking through it but there were 2 matches showing tear players I believe, they made it to top 16 but didn't make it past that
You know, I've yet to see a duelist not from a "Backwater Eastern Europe Post-Soviet country" who can play Sunavalon Rikka.
Probably gives them PTSD
Not the same but I'm a latin american third world duelist who tries to play Rikka Sunavalon.... The key word is tries
since when is sunavalon rikka hard to play? it's not easy but also not too hard to learn.
but then again, I'm from europe, so apparently it's in my genes
Here in South America the deck is quite popular, but again, i don't live in USA so it might be the reason.
It got top 16 on the NAWCQ with an American Player tho. That's something.
"X" thread really sound wrong
You KNOW we voted for Team 7 solely on the basis of patriotism. God Bless America. Making smores rn in honor of Jesse Kotton being reborn as a marshmallon
Mbt perfectly crafting the new worst apology video of 2023
And yet still a better apology than what he gave the Ghostrick community lol.
As a old man from the late 19th century. I salute the Rugrats intro. It was the breathe of childhood I needed
o7
Me when MBT asks us if we always have to whine and complain: "A baby's gotta do what a baby's gotta do." 🪛
Never Forget.
The TOP 16 YCS Bogota 2022 Raidraptor List.
that intro activated a part of my brain that i've not used in years
"LATAM gave the world Ojama Mystic Mine"
I've decided I'm no longer Latin American.
Porque chingados no? Jfc
And I've decided that I am now Latin American.
Coward.
Sanae as a peruvian girl? Nice
And then Josh 3:0'ed NA at worlds in round 2
MBT be like: "It's Master Duel, so it doesn't count" BABYRAGE
after which snipehunters went on to win the championship
FTKs are also far less common in the OCG. Both Pend and Tempest Magician FTK weren't hit until much much later or not hit at all
Gandora ftk (which is near unplayable here due to a translation issue) was popular there.
@@xatuyou8045 It _is_ unplayable here due to a translation issue? Are we not at a point where YGO doesn't suffer from such issues anymore?
What translation issue would it be that still goes unresolved?
@@xCorvus7x someone did make a semi-playable version in a ppg tournament but it needed dark matter and eclipse wyvern
@@xatuyou8045 Okay, apparently this issue is dsecribed on Yugipedia.
It's baffling that there'd be such a discrepancy between OCG and TCG.
Got my bandit Keith fit on for that USA win today
Surprised Brilliant Fusion wasn't mentioned. For some reason it took literal YEARS for the OCG to figure out that card was completely busted
BriFu is part of Synchro Fusionist
I'm dying with laughter at the Rugrats intro 😂 😂
MBT really read the comments to the last vid calling him out and his response was "The toxic gossip train~".
Still wild they only really play runick stun or mill.
Turns out when you have to dedicate your ash to a certain bug that Runick Fountain can actually resolve
Which is weird when you realize all the best stun tools are banned in the OCG...... And not the TCG (well other than mines)
Look at Runick combo lists, they have big engine requirements, thus usually feature 5-6 non-engine cards, which are commonly reserved to high impact situation specific cards (DRuler, Evenly,
, Nib), as low impact broad use cards (Imperm, Veiler, Ash) only become superior when you can draw multiples.
This means the deck cannot fit the whole Maxx "C" package (it's freaking 9 cards, with only Maxx "C" being high impact), making it way worse in the OCG when compared to TCG.
@@felipebarreto97bro what are you talking about. Runick decks benefit from the max c package more than any deck. If they get max cd they just set up their runick engine and play on your turn. With all the drawing they do,they're more likely to actually see and resolve max c as well since you have so many ash baits in the engine. Even if max c ends their turn, the only deck that can possibly achieve more than runick off a single draw is tears.
Ocg can compare to me since we both have max c. Runick was insanely strong on release and really only died down because of ishizu running in every deck for like 3 months. To add to that, naturia support was largely ignored due to it being released post tear, pre any real hits to the deck. If runick got all their spells unlimited in md you can definitely bet it'll be a lot more popular than it is now
@@obtusem5015 They don't benefit because you can't run the entire Maxx "C" package in Runick Combo. Ash, Called By and Crossout are terrible in the deck and need too much space you can't afford.
Runick doesn't care about Maxx "C" but Spright insta loses to it. If you play Runick Spright in OCG there's a 30% chance all your Spright cards are dead in hand.
That's why every Spright list played the full anti Maxx "C" package. That's why they play Runick as a stun strategy instead of abusing Huginn/Spright interactions. Maxx "C" prevents them from meshing well.
0:07 Rugrats reference! Back to the Cartoon references!
Gotta love Joshua's commentary 😂
lmfao joshua schmidt reference at the start had me rolling
I honestly will never understand why we don't just have a unified ban list and release cards at the same time globally. Like it surely can't be that hard to give the OCG a placeholder reprint set, to buy time for the TCG to get the next set translated and ready and just release them both at the same time, then give the TCG a small placeholder set of all the cards we've never gotten for one reason or another and just have one single game, with one single ban list.
Now I could see the argument of "well the TCG and OCG players play the game differently so a ban list for one region wouldn't work well for the other!" So here's the solution... you take the worlds approach. The unified ban list becomes everything being playable at the lowest position on the ban list, so for instance Maxx C would be banned because the TCG has it banned, and Catapult Turtle would become banned because the OCG has it banned. Then in the ban lists that follow while continuing to ban problematic cards, you un-ban cards that shouldn't have been banned in the first place to clean up the list. So like Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon would become un-banned, and by that same token Thunder Dragon Colossus would also be un-banned.
This would lead to after 2-3 ban lists the game having not only a unified game, but also a ban list that likely would end up making the game a whole lot more healthy. I mean how often has both sides of this game we all enjoy had the comment of "man I wish we had X ban that the other guys get, this is bullshit", well now everyone would get those bans. It would also make Konami's job easier because no longer would they have to maintain two different ban lists, and as long as they continued to watch the results of EVERY LARGE TOURNAMENT, then they would be able to still figure out what cards are problematic and ban the problem cards without much issue, if anything it would make the problem cards more obvious because with a shared format, the OCG and TCG players could actively share information with each other and lab out formats faster.
Then the only thing we'd need to do is get Master Duel caught up to the rest of the game so it can also share the same ban list and be the entry point to the game that is sorely needed for newer players, and also serve as a place that Konami could actually host proper tournaments that actually matter for the larger events.
Though all of that is a pipe dream, there is almost no way they would do that because that would actually do that because the initial change over period would likely be seen of as too risky because "what if most of the OCG players quit from just getting a reprint set!?" or "what if the TCG players riot and quit from having a lot of cards that they don't agree with being banned banned when the ban list is first unified!?" even though I'm guessing the answer is... not many if ANY players would quit over this, and if they did, the game would be more appealing to new players and thus gain more players than it would lose.
"Backwater Eastern Europe Post-Soviet country" is a bit much even for MBT...
Really enjoyed Trynet’s Gishki demo playlist. Just fun stuff
0:53 MBT didn't have to go so hard on the British
MBT: "Rikka hasnt really been played in NA"
Me: *Remembering MBT saying my deck was played by a "tree fucking freak" in the anime during the MCS* 😂
I heard that fucking Darryl Worley song and immediately broke into hives, which was probably the intended reaction.
The last time I was this early, MBT was 0-12 in the Progression Playoffs
3:23 I felt this statement right in my combo labyrinth deck.
MBT discovering the risks of using not-quite-interchangeable terms to make your monologue sound more varied and fluent
USA! USA! USA!!! We’re winning worlds!!!
Someone tell me why when he said backwater Eastern European at the start of the video, all I could think of was Rata stuck in Montenegro 🇲🇪
Ngl Joseph's pro American ways is gonna make me root for whoever ain't American at world's 😂😂
Final Four is 2 Americans and 2 Latin Americans. So a TYPE of American will be guaranteed to win. :)
@@orga7777 true. I won't be rooting for North Americans then 🤣
@@obiwanjabroniX
Confederate sympathizer!
@@rickyl3819 sheeeeeeeesh, caught red handed
I swear mbt is the most petty yugituber/twitchstreamer on earth and I am alllll the way here for it. 😂
The American flag in the back really sells the rant
That fucking Rugrats opening filled me with nostalgia and joy
My favorite Bandit Keith quote
"Alas poor Yurik, I knew ye well. In America."
-Abridged Keith
And we can't forget
"I don't know what you're talking about yah hoser."
-Abridged Keith
Oh man Rugrat name intro is perfect!
1:57 welp that dont end well
Trust me, I want USA to win, but boy oh boy, all these folks are competitive!! Not to say I'm not playing competitive either 😂 whether its Master Duel, Duel Links, OCG/TCG, I think that alot of other players that aren't from USA and/or represent it, don't do well, due to others knowing the meta 69x better lol. It's just something they do on the other side of the world. Hence the "Worlds" format.
Looks like this year's worlds is TCG's win. All OCG player is out and one got DQ'ed
Neshy is a special breed of human being
Out of all the flags he could choose to represent europe he choose the UK, a country which left the EU and is bascially just a shadow of a former empire.
You do realize that the UK is still part of Europe right? It left the European Union, not the continent lol
@@watchman1270 I know, but to represent us europeans by showing the UK flag is more than stupid in my eyes. Heck the 2 most powerful countrys in europe are germany and france (unless you also count russia). The EU flag would make much more sense even tho not every european country is part of it.
@MBTYuGiOh as a fellow yugioh and magic player, I feel like it's interesting that Tearlaments has ALMOST a direct counterpart in magic with the legacy manaless dredge deck (dredgers as the ishizu cards and ichorid, nether shadow and company as "tear names" alongside dread return). While tearlament was extremely powerful in yugioh however, manaless dredge seems to be fringe at best and very bad at the worst. Im curious what other, if any, decks in yugioh and magic have such a similar playstyle to one another and also thought you mind find the comparison interesting idk :)
they also still have self destruct button for some bizzare reason
I saw some crazy combos on X videos last night
MBT fucking called it. NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD BAYBEE
The ocg is wild plece
After watching Joshua Schmidt's stream and then coming here, seeing that intro sent me lol
Wow union carrier and dragon buster. Amd here i thought we were talking abc
What was the Gold Pride clip talking about at the end?
its a tcg exclusive
What do they mean about Punk Gold Pride at the end?
Gold Pride cards are TCG exclusive.
claiming danger tear is tcg invention is certainly a take, especially when ocg created it and it topped a tournament just before they got ishizu and tcg took inspiration from that list.
What’s that dark world dealing ftk called again?
5:48 is my first personal appearance in this video
Unified lists would be so good
I know that to Americans Canada is basically in Europe, but why was Mother Mother, a band from Vancouver, BC (aka about as far from Europe as you can get in the northern hemisphere) played at 3:17?
Am I the only one that joined the U.S.A. Chant…?
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅🇺🇸
7:27 This should be the term used, even in formalities.
1:57 'MURICAAA!!! F*CK YEAH!!!!😂😂😂😂
1:03 "great Bandit"?
Please he couldn't even stopped someone stealing his catchphrase...
In America.
Is that Linguriboh card in the back huge or is it actually the standard size and MBT is just really really tiny??
It's actually smaller than standard size and MBT is extremely tiny
Bam bam
Can someone tell me what the intro is a reference to this week?
Rugrats
I want to see ocg cook with ghoti
Shoutout to @neshy 🤣🤣 the crystal based god.
What will you do if the banlists and card pools are unified but Maxx C is legal at 3?
complain a couple of times and play Time Wizard?
I would stop playing the game LOL.
What is the intro referencing. I remember it but can't place it.
the nickelodeon show rugrats
let me guess, next week is master duel decks that tcg and ocg didnt have
What is the mbt intro from? For some reason chalkzone came to my mind.
Rugrats
NOT THE MOTHER MOTHER TRANS SONG, I'M DYING
Not mentioned in the video but Striker Orcust was like the best deck in the TCG once I:P was released and at the last YCS it was legal in it had like a 60% top cut rate. While I:P helped cement Orcust as the best deck in the OCG, Striker Orcust was just not a thing there.
Didn't they hit striker cards earlier than we did here?
@@shawnjavery Just from a quick glance at old metagame reports they had at least 2 engage, but in return they have 3 upstart.
@@solarifletbf we didn't discover it until mermaid was banned over here as well. Allure plus 3 return plus engage was just nuts, I'm convinced its one of the best decks the entirety of the format.
@@shawnjavery it wasn't nearly as good until i:p came out iirc
@@dextmo6890 nah, iirc it took a few events after chim came out for the deck to be discovered. Honestly people just didn't know how strong of an interaction allure plus return had with engage. The deck is worse without IP but its not like that was always the optimal board anyways.
I like floodgates
6:01 - huh, I never knew that Ben Shapiro played Yu-Gi-Oh.
I love Fur Hire but I hope Konami will not hit hard my pet deck because of this annoying mill negate deck call Runick
You forgot us Aussies.
MOTHER MOTHER MOMENT
The paleo deck is not an example for this video. The reason the ocg didn't play the paleo cards was because they didn't have them.
Hope the threads will be deck that so powerful in MD, but not that strong in TCG and OCG, because of BO1 format in MD. Currently only MD have unifi banlist, maybe TCG and OCG need to learn from MD banlist.
Xeets were fun
The reason you can't play Runick Fur Hire in the OCG is because of Maxx C tax. not enough space.
Hah! Take that Joshua Schmidt!
I deleted the app after the name change. I'll just watch these videos to get my twitter fix now.
Unrelated to the video but does anyone else know why mystery dungeon is trending?
Also, here’s an idea for a thread video, what cards will you use in certain decks if you can despite them being unoptimal? I.e. in Blackwings, if I can win with it, I’ll make Onimaru the divine thunder with only synchros.
Mystery dungeon is likely trending because there's a pokemon direct coming soon and people are hoping for a new pokemon Mystery dungeon announcement
Pkmn direct is soon, and they want mystery dungeon
I’m running time wizard and time wizard of tomorrow in Spright-Live twin
the united countries of european conqueror have been appeased
And that is the reason why I am a proud, european man
OGC and TCG should merge in terms of the banlist. MBT discussed this a while ago in Magical Hats.
He'd immediately reverse this stance when the unified banlist includes Maxx C. at 3.
@EinDose if that were to ever happen I'd kms
using the British flag to refer to the entirety of Europe might be the most American thing in this video
Cool
As far as Danger! Tears are concerned, I think it's due to Spright being a lot, stronger with Maxx C. Since it's level two they can use it as a part of their engine. Adamancipators are biggest mystery for me, but they had Block Dragon and Grass in the MD and didn't do too much. I would love to see that format revisited, maybe something like lost worlds but it will probably never happen.
I mean tear can play through max C pretty easily, splights can’t
Spright adding Maxx 'C' is not a good play and was not typically done.
@@ChristopherNicdao That's interesting to know, haven't watched a lot of OCG
The ocg just discovered adamancipator this year and block dragon still only got semi-limited.
@@ChristopherNicdao I think he means if you brick going first on Maxx C and a Spright Blue as only options, you can full combo because Maxx C is Level 2.
Hmmm so basically maxx c prevents some tcg strats from being considered? Except maybe the conclave one, idk
OCG just realized that Runick is a bullshit advantage engine that never should've been printed and then rightfully ignore it... Hats off to them.
Murica
0:45 Me when I'm European