What’s crazy is how ugly I thought the Aztec was when it came out. Horrible. But over time and with modern design tastes actually heading in that direction, now when I look at a picture of an Aztec, it isn’t pretty but it doesn’t seem ugly anymore either.
I WANT more bizzare designs on the roads. Cybertruck is another example. I don't like it personally, but at the same time it's a breath of fresh air to see something so completely batsh/t.
Your in depth reviews of commodity vehicles is what your channel’s strongest suit is by far. It’s also what makes watch the entire video as opposed to other channels. Excellent video.
Highly underrated channel. I’ve followed them for years and I don’t understand why they haven’t grown more as they present the best, most comprehensive reviews.
i really enjoyed hearing about the residual value implications of frequent and drastic refreshes. Also about how Hyundai invests in these cheaper models more than other brands. I know these subjects are more esoteric or highly technical but I enjoy them. Thanks!
I can't be the only one that likes the weird styling Hyundai has been using over the past half decade or so. Weird styling makes the cars stand out which is what lots of customers want.
@@JCDenton95LOL! Never heard the term “bowling shoe ugly”, but I love it. (I used to bowl in a league as a teenager, and yeah, I had a pair of really ugly bowling shoes. But they were “groovy” back in 1972!)
Yeah if I want to change the temperature, or which vents the air is blowing through, I want to press a button or turn a knob (preferably the latter, for temperature adjustments). Not go 3 menus deep in a slow-responsive touchscreen.
@@jeffb.6642 yep in my 2017 civic I had to go through the slow touch screen to change the fan speed. I have the 2024 Kona SEL convenience now though and have the physical controls back for all AC functions. The touch screen is also very responsive compared to my last car too.
Watching the two of you describe the cars you review is the best show on TH-cam. The dry humor and blunt talk are well executed and you take time to cover the good, bad and ugly. When I am next looking to buy another car you will be my source of inspiration.
I actually liked the revised exterior design. I’ve been very critical of Hyundai design the past few years (basically, I thought it was hideous), but I like how they’ve cleaned it up a bit so it doesn’t look so… off putting. Then again, I can totally appreciate how many people might still find it less than attractive. Great review as always 👍🏻
I was looking at this car as well as the Toyota Corolla Cross and the Honda HR-V. And let me tell you that the interior to the Kona won me over. I could care less if people think it's ugly on the outside if the interior makes it a comfy ride for me. Better yet that the rest of the specs are up to par.
I thought I would hate the Kona and owning one would be soul crushing, but it's just a shockingly competent car. Fast enough in the 1.6T configuration, good amount of interior space, reasonable fuel economy, easy to use infotainment, good tech onboard and a transmission that isn't hateful. It's pretty much perfect for my wife tooling around Mainz and Frankfurt. We even took it on a road trip to Bergamo and...it was comfortable. Considering we got it loaded for 24k Euro, I genuinely cannot complain.
Stick that just something else to go wrong turbo. I wish people would wake up and realize turbos suck. put more stress on engine components put more heat in your engine oil something that is bad for your engine. I don't want to hear about warrenty because if you are a person who keeps your car long term, then the warrenty expires. My experience with Hyundai's powertrain warrenty has not been good. Now I know why some people call them stealerships.These guys don't care because they are driving this vehicle for a short time and they want a fun experience nothing more, so they want the damn turbo.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Ours is a two year lease for dirt cheap, so it will be someone else's problem. I tend to agree though and have always driven naturally aspirated cars (E46 M3, K20 Civic Si, BRZ, ND2 Miata, Genesis G90 V8).
I own a 2020 Kona SEL Plus with AWD and the 2.0 NA engine. It has a 6 speed auto and so far at 36K miles it has had no issues. I bought it new in March of 2020 and the only improvement it needed was a set of new tires. Put a new set of Bridgestone Turranzas on it at 25K because the factory tire was damn near dangerous on snow and ice. 33 MPGs in town with 27 MPGs in the city. The Plus trim has a ton of great options. 4 wheel independent suspension handles well, too.
I had a 2019 first gen Kona 1.6T with the 7 speed ecoshit dct. Enthusiasts love to shit on Hyundai, sometimes deserving, but it was a great and peppy little car. 0-60 in 6.6 per c&d for the fwd model like mine was. $26k otd with a decent stereo, lane keep assist and the best part, the acid/lime green exterior with matching interior accents. Great car for the 2 years and 44k I put on it as a travel nurse during peak covid. Only traded it in after securing an fk8 type r at msrp, but I’m glad to see Hyundai kept, and if anything, really leaned into the funky design.
It’s amazing to me anyone could say y’all hate Hyundai and Kia or EVs when your fairly glowing review of the Ioniq 5 is a huge part of why I own one. Y’all have a clear perspective in your reviews, but that’s why I love your channel. I know what I’m getting and where you’re coming from in your reviews.
You guys are so relaxed and knowledgeable on camera, you don’t need to curse to get your points across. Not an old man yelling at clouds, , just saying.
I recently took a Kona Limited Electric home. I had tried a Honda Prologue, Chevy Blazer and Nissan Ariya. Surprisingly I felt the build quality of the Kona superior. It was quieter at highway speeds and plenty of space. The seats fit like a glove. It was fast (about 6.5sec 0-60) and handled great let alone the supple ride quality. I think Hyundai has a winner. The interior was so intelligently laid out with physical buttons all lit at night.
I really don't understand why Kia/Hyundai are having so many quality issues and recalls. Sure, they are great on functional interior designs, but their long-term efficacy is really suspect.
Because the Koreans have always cut corners on parts/engineering to undercut the Japanese on price. Much like the Chinese are doing in Europe now. And that 10 year, 100K mile warranty is a marketing gimmick/almost worthless b/c they are well known for making it extremely difficult to get approved for any warranty claims that their customers have. Just go read the Hyundai/Kia forums or Consumer Reports or Edmunds. And almost every owner has nothing but terrible things to say about the Hyundai/Kia dealer experience if you have to deal with repairs or warranty work or even the sales experience. Hopefully they do a better job with their PHEVs and EVs but I'm not holding my breath. And the Koreans don't even really beat Toyota, Honda or Mazda that much on price anymore so I would take a Corolla Cross or CX-30 over this all day, every day.
I don't understand why people keep saying this when the JD Power results utterly refute it. For 223, Kia are literally number 3 behind Lexus and Genesis - Hyundai are 8th - both are WAY above Honda and Mazda - and of course the Germans who only have 1 brand that meets the industry average, with the rest being right down the bottom with other bottom feeders like Ford and Tesla.
Simple, they come from the same country that brought us Scamsung, which does nothing but steal from others and cut corners. It's a philosophy they whole-heartedly adopted, and it shows in the garbage they make.
The setup in my Elantra is very similar, it was a big reason why I chose it over a VAG product or other competitors. Physical buttons for climate and radio, changing media input and bringing up map/navigation, touch screen inputs for other things you don't need to access all the time that you mostly just set and leave be. They actually attempted to integrate the screens into the dash design instead of the taped on iPad look.
They make this as a hybrid in other countries but they didn’t bring it to the US. Which is a shame, especially since Hyundai has basically gotten rid of all of their small hybrids now apart from the Elantra Hybrid. So when my lease is up on my Ioniq Hybrid, I’ll probably buy the lease and go trade it in at Honda once the Civic Hatch Hybrid shows up.
I'm not a big fan of their cladding but this Kona certainly has more interesting colors than most current offerings. I love the Mirage Green & Neoteric (what the H is that?!?!) Yellow; the orange is pretty eye catching too
I actually really love the interior styling of this car. I have a venue so anything would be an upgrade but I like my little go-kart. If Interest rates were not crazy right now I would consider this. I also don't think you guys trash Hyundai and Kia. I knew what I was getting with these cars. It does what I need it to do and I didn't spend a lot of money.
I ended up getting a 2024 Kona. I looked at the Venue but I needed a little more space than that and like the styling and interior of the Kona a lot more.
Triangular styling rules! Triangular geometries offer inherent advantages in automotive design due to their structural stability, efficiency, and aerodynamic properties. Triangles distribute forces evenly, enhancing stability and safety in vehicle components like suspension systems and chassis frames. Their efficient use of materials reduces weight, improving fuel efficiency and reducing environmental impact. Additionally, triangular shapes minimize air resistance, enhancing aerodynamics for better vehicle performance. Well Done.
A Hyundai Kona was the only vehicle enterprise has ever provided me that left me stranded. Not even Nissan or stellantis products has given me that pleasure
@@bradleyscarreviews Rentals are almost always used by the fleet within 3 years of the vehicle being delivered. So you are implying that the failed components died from abuse rather than age or poor design. The ICE versions of the Kona had recalls for starting spontaneous fires (similar issue to Elantas). I do like the comfortable interior the few times I rode in a Kona but I would not trust that thing to go A to B as a daily driver.
@@bradleyscarreviews correct. I get anywhere between 1 and 6 a month, since May 2021. Dozens and dozens of cars - Nissans, Fords, Stellantis, Toyota, VW, Hyundai, GMs, hell I had a few Audi's and BMWs. The ONLY one to leave me stranded was a Hyundai. Sure, I've had flat tires, infotainment glitches, cars with questionable mechanical soundness, but nothing that made me have to call and report in the motor locked up. Hell, I had an Altima once that was 3 years old with 75k on it - didn't leave me stranded. 15 miles after pickup. It started knocking, clattering almost immediately after getting on the highway right by the rental office. Pulled over and called them for a replacement. They told me directly to drive it to the closest store, where it locked up in route. Could it have been abused? Sure. I bet it was. But it only had 20k on the clock, and if it couldn't take the same beating models that I would argue are more prone to issues could, then it's an X in my book.
I was really leaning to this Kona as an upgrade over my old RSX (it's only .2" longer!) but when you mentioned getting 22 mpg, that gave me pause. Great all around car though. Hopefully they'll come out with a hybrid for the States.
I'm owner of 1gen ko a EV and just placed order for gen2 hybrid. Some people like it or not, but exterior design was something that actually gather my attention. I think Toyota cross will look outdated even in year or two, as we have more EV on the road - and this gen Kona will still look okay, you don't have to spend huge amount of money to get well spec version. What I hate is that you get BSM, 360cam, all parking sensor etc - but you have take one of higher trim to get black rear window
I don't mind the looks at all. Automakers are so gun-shy and complacent when it comes to visual design, and the general populace is so accepting of whatever bland generic box that rolls out on the lots, I applaud any effort to stand out from the crowd.
I wish they put the 8 speed on the 2.0l models but they're all CVT. Interestingly they have the traditional center console shifter and the 1.6T has the steering column one. The 1.6 is definitely faster but it is so laggy it doesn't really matter.
I tend to agree. The N-line, at least, looks pretty cool. It has zero performance to back up its look, but if you just want the look, it’s got it. Saw one being driven yesterday. Nice dark blue paint and it was an overcast cloudy day. Thing has great road presence.
@S8ER if you are in a better position financially than most to where you feel the need to go "ewww peasant car", then you better be able to back up why it is you are better than having to drive that car. And I don't think you can. And I think you like letting people know you don't need this car, which makes you twice the douche. It's not a good look, man.
More than a year ago, I bought a new 2023 Kona SEL with the 2.0, a CVT and AWD, for $29K out the door. It has been a great car. It took me a while getting used to it being larger than I was used to. It's perfect for me, that's all I can say. Great video, as always!
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 Great question! In my case I drove a total of 5 Ford Focus Hatchbacks over 20 years and maybe 300,000 miles, then I dropped into an even smaller Hyundai Accent, also a hatch. So yes, the Kona is larger than all of those. I had to be careful getting in and out of all those cars at just over 6 feet tall and hitting my head, especially the Accent. Now, I NEVER hit my head. BTW, I sold the Accent to a guy who is 4 foot 10 inches. It's perfect for him!
I love how the triangles on this, Tuckson, Ioinq, triggers Mark. Not saying GM Korea's Trax/Envista team and HyunKia's team copy each others work but they probably drink the same brand of Soju. BGM and Ms Jackson is for real.
I can personally comment on Hyundai/Kia's honoring of their warranty: they will fight you tooth and nail to not pay out. their dealerships, at least within an 8 hour drive of where my car's engine literally punched the bottom of my hood, were all backlogged nearly a year, they dont offer loaners, they dont compensate for rentals until AFTER the repair is complete, and to be compensated for a rental takes months. So essentially, Hyundai/Kia knowingly sold millions of cars with a design fault and then fought to refuse to pay it out, to then require you to essentially have to buy a whole new vehicle while yours is being repaired (one dealership actually suggested i just buy another car while mine sits in their lot for almost a year before they even looked at it). What I hate is: both companies knock it out of the park on styling and overall efficiency but I'll never give them another cent after fighting them nearly a year just be reimbursed for an engine they knew had issues. If i laid out everything that happened over the course of a year I could likely make a 30min video of just reading out my notes i started keeping about month 3 of my fight with them.
I can see how the styling is love it or hate it, but I'm one who loves it. Very Blade Runner/cyberpunk-esque, which is one of my favorite aesthetics. Especially in such a bland segment!
This must be an unpopular opinion but the Nline version of this car with the green paint looks absolutely stunning! Id totally buy a Kona N if they made one for this generation. I feel the Kona is probably their best looking car hyundai makes right now.
@@TheFire1290 if pavel describes something pedestrian as stunning, it says very little about something exotic if he describes that as stunning too... but yeah, i guess my comment is pretentious, if you look at people and everyone is equally beautiful haha.
I assume you have to older 2.4 or 2.0 theta II engines. Many other owners are affected, and I myself had to do many engine replacements for them. My suggesting is to get a new Hyundai if you really love them, with a smartstream engine, their latest more reliable iteration. It has port and dual injection. I haven’t replaced any.
@@bradleyscarreviews neither engine was offered in the 2021 Kona. It's either the 2.0L Atkinson or the 1.6L turbo. The 2.0L had issues with faulty pistons on certain years.
@@oraclemiata845 that wasn't what i was saying, i just said they chose this platform to be the replacement for the veloster N. it might be a great car but it still looks goofy.
Looking forward to more commentary from your new Asian host Jack Seoul. I’m sure his Korean heritage will bring amazing insights about Kia and Hyundai products.
Ford EcoSport production ended over a year ago, with 2022 being the final model year. There may be a few still sitting on lots, but they aren't a competitor to anything anymore. Also, the EcoSport was built in India, intended for Asian and European markets first. They only bothered selling it here because it was cheaper than designing something new just for the US
@@John-kx3ng the Maverick has taken over the entry level option since you can theoretically get one for $20k (or at least you could when they first released). That small cuv segment probably doesn't have enough demand for them to bother designing a whole new vehicle that they'll just scrap in 5 years when they move more stuff to electric.
Interior and exterior is way ahead in this segment and price point. Love the exterior looks way more futuristic and modern than the basic Corolla and hrv and Mazdas. Interior is way ahead looks way more modern
I was always of the opinion you guys had a soft spot for Korea cars. I think you need to start reviewing the mid tier version though. Most buyers of the Kona are not getting the top tier, I would rather see what the SEL is like.
Not really a Hyundai fan but I have to give credit there. Four-wheel-drive system is actually really good. It’s better than the standard four-wheel-drive in the RAV4. I don’t know about the torque vectoring version but we got dumped on last winter and I was stuck on my road and couldn’t leave my house basically and there was one of these just chugging along, I had cross climate two tires and they had whatever was on there from the factory didn’t look like anything too aggressive
Imagine owning a Kona knowing what would normally be a minor parking lot scrape instead destroying one of your head or tailights, requiring a ASAP choice between a thousand-plus dollar repair or living with a nighttime safety hazard and police magnet. I wouldn't be surprised if insurance premiums for this generation Kona go through the roof.
When I watched Mark beating the back seat of the Kona down flat - I knew I was on the right car review channel. 👍 I can’t wait to see if you guys get ahold of a Bolt EUV- there’s so much fodder there. I can see a picture of GM tower in Detroit with the sun behind it shining like Camelot, then Mary Barra saying GM could sell the Bolt at $20k and still make a profit, then Mary saying they were cancelling the Bolt, then cut to a deep fake of Mary begging for change on the street. That’s just the overlord drama, the car itself- designed in Korea, made in Detroit, full of piano black, nearly identical to a KonaEV underside, and how- in spite of it’s usual shenanigans, GM made a good appliance car, sold it cheaply, and now is ready to GMF’it up with the Ultium redesign to fit lower e-density batteries in to play the “Follow the Tesla” game that destroyed Ford’s EV aspirations. I think you could spend a week brainstorming angles of attack on this one.
yep I got the 2024 Kona SEL Convenience. It was kind of an impulsive buy and I sold my 2017 Civic coupe 1.5 turbo with 80k miles to get it. After having it for a couple weeks though, I'm loving it. Its not quite as fast as my last car but the interior experience is awesome with the dual screen setup
@@watchfuleye275 They need to up production of them a bit, too. I got SUPER lucky and happened to find a white one locally but that was...like...the only one anywhere nearby. I know demand isn't super high but they seem pretty rare.
I think they need a new design for the next N or redo the Veloster. As a Kona N owner, I wouldn't want it any bigger. They are making the Ioniq (5?) N.
In 2014 we bought a Hyundai Elantra. At 50,000 miles Hyundai replaced the engine with a remanufactured shortblock. Meaning they replaced the bottom half of the engine and reused the head of our engine. with a 400.00 dollar- copay, which I think was for labor. A year later it developed an oil leak. Took it in and they said the oil pan gasket was leaking. I assumed they would remove the oil pan clean the surfaces and replace the gasket. Silly me, no they replaced the oil pan to the tune of 400.00 dollars again. I got a recall notice for the brakes. while there they said the rear high mount brakelight was not working. The car was inspected by my own local mechanic the day before and everything was fine, and it passed. They wanted 58.00 to reconnect they wire that I believe they disconnected. No thanks no more Hyundais for me. Toyota or Honda next time.
Can you offer some more detail on how the engine changes resulted in less fuel economy? 5hp isn't a substantial variance. What engine changes specifically would be interesting to hear about.
Wait for the N model (not N-Line). Sorry we in the USA missed the i30 fastback; Hyundai could have lifted that 2 inches and sold it as a CUV Cute-UTE Coupe, then lowered it 2.5 inches for N Spec.
That exterior is certainly.. a choice. I guess if you need a cheap SUV with character it's far better than any other option out there. The Koreans have gotten much better at quality control in recent years, just a shame that the MPG kinda sucks. If you buy, plan to keep it until it becomes too expensive to keep fixing.
They still have poor quality control and use low quality internal components. Kia/Hyundai models still commonly suffer from engine failure and transmission problems. Their dealership network do their best to not honor warranty claims. It can be a nightmare dealing with their dealerships.
@zarbon700 have yet to get in a smartstream 2.0/1.6T yet. Not saying it's not possible, but since the 21 update of the 2.0, I've seen no issues with engines. Of course, it's early, but it's also been available in SK for longer with no issues as far as I've heard.
@@zarbon700 Spoken like a true idiot. Reading reports from 10 years ago I see, while ignoring millions of Toyota's current vehicles being recalled. Maybe crack open a Consumer Reports or JD report and see how Kia/Hyundair models do NOT suffer engine failure... dude, you haven't read anything remotely recent, have you? When you want to join the rest of us in 2023 and realize Toyota has more engine recalls than Kia/Hyundai, let us know.
i unfortunately had a bad experience with hyundai (had a veloster n 6MT with a bad engine at 250 miles, and they didnt want to be responsible for it :( i have a daily driver Toyota Corolla Cross AWD LE and i genuinely like it alot.
I have a 2018 kona 1.6t AWD with 7 speed dual clutch, the life time fuel economy is 22 mpg and it's on eco mode most of the time. My 2016 cx5 gets 24.5 mpg without babying it.
I dont know if that Chevy Trax bit was sarcasm but im very interested in your review of one. Im trying to figure out what the catch is with that price tag
I've sold a few of these so far and I will say that they are much nicer and roomier than the outgoing model. The styling isn't awful though I have my own opinions on the neoteric yellow that they come in, especially because we were sent six in that color including our first 24 Kona EV and it was a limited 🤣The Kona is really popular with the elderly crowd that wants AWD and to be higher up than a sedan but doesn't want or need something as big as a Tucson or Santa FE. They're very [popular in the used market for anyone who's looking for a practical and affordable AWD hatchback. Also it definitely feels like the 2024 Kona EV was nerfed a bit from the outgoing model. While it has about the same range, it doesn't feel as torquey and quick as the previous generation.
Design is better this time around, but the fact remains that H&K are terrible at engine design. This as an EV is much better but there are signs that there are design issues there as well (not the battery or motor but the gear bearings lubing). As always the customers will bear the brunt on a vehicle that depreciates faster than an NFT. It's too bad because I really wanted a Kona N or EV. But the former has sus reliability and the latter is using software updates to reduce torque on the electric motor to mask the gearing issue and give it room from the base Ioniq5, against which it has a significant torque advantage.
The updated Kona EV uses a completely different powertrain design than the old one to (hopefully) resolve the powertrain issues the previous one had. The torque change is not software related, the motor and reduction gear are physically different from before. My 2019 Kona EV has been a great car but it did get a new motor under warranty because of a rumble noise. Coming from a problematic Toyota (they do exist) I’m glad to have the long warranty on my Kona.
What's wrong with the 1.6L Turbo engine? It's a fantastic engine that has been proven very reliable since it launched. Lemme guess, you'll make a joke about something that literally has nothing to do with the 1.6L Turbo. I'll eat my popcorn and wait.
@@wolfshanze5980 Nah I can share some stuff as I owned one for 4 years, 80k miles and ran mods on it: intercooloer, tune, intake, suspension, etc. What I learned early on is that it is hard on oil, and finding shavings here and there in the pan is "normal". I learned the entusiast market is tiny, and while support is great, many local shops won't touch it with a 10 ft pole, leaving you with dealerships and their maligned service staff. Look for the master techs, they've likely moved to greener pastures as corporate have made it challenging to want to work there. I have more on this but want to limit the dump. At the end of the day it is slower than a Mazda3, even the new prius, and especially older Honda's with a turbo setup that only guarantees to use more gas, generate more heat and create more issues down the line. I loved my Forte5 but I had a lfp failure that i resolved myself, then a hpfp failure (again I resolved myself), then part fo the harness fried leaving me without a radiator fan that lead to an overheat I luckily caught (this was warrantied but they tried to deny me for aftermarket intake and springs). So why did I get rid of mine? AC compressor failed and dealer raked me over the coals on the bill but gave me an refurb, not oem unit. Afterwards I noticed fuel trims we getting really out of wack, indicating a vaccuum leak no dealer could find and no shop wanted to touch. And this is with the 1.6T which is better than their 2.0 which is majorly maligned to the point where tech's hate them as well. How's the popcorn?
Styling, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't make the car more or less reliable, more or less fast, more or less comfortable... the styling literally has no effect on the car AT ALL. What one person may see as ugly, another may think is the best ever. Let people judge for themselves. People bought the Nissan Cube for crying out loud. You can only speak of what styling you like, not someone else.
I think the HR-V DOES look reasonably handsome. It'd be held in higher regard if it didn't have a paralytic lack of power. That thing would be transformed by a turbo.
This is what I imagine a modern Pontiac Aztek would look like
Exactly! Even the color fits 😁😁
What’s crazy is how ugly I thought the Aztec was when it came out. Horrible. But over time and with modern design tastes actually heading in that direction, now when I look at a picture of an Aztec, it isn’t pretty but it doesn’t seem ugly anymore either.
Need Walt Jr in this for the spinoff
I WANT more bizzare designs on the roads. Cybertruck is another example. I don't like it personally, but at the same time it's a breath of fresh air to see something so completely batsh/t.
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Your in depth reviews of commodity vehicles is what your channel’s strongest suit is by far. It’s also what makes watch the entire video as opposed to other channels. Excellent video.
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Highly underrated channel. I’ve followed them for years and I don’t understand why they haven’t grown more as they present the best, most comprehensive reviews.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I almost always skip videos about "cool" exotic cars from my favourite automotive TH-camrs.
And that's why I just subbed.
It doesn't matter the car - When SG reviews, I listen.
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its a hyundai
Can't wait to see what this thing does around Autobahn Country Club with some RE71.
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Don't forget track alignment.
@@OnTheRocks71and a big wang
i really enjoyed hearing about the residual value implications of frequent and drastic refreshes. Also about how Hyundai invests in these cheaper models more than other brands. I know these subjects are more esoteric or highly technical but I enjoy them.
Thanks!
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2,Do not buy hyundai
3.Do no buy KIA
They should invest in engines that don't catch on fire and anti-theft features that can't be surpassed by teens using TikTok
@@colechapman6976Nothing of that here in Europe, mate.
I can't be the only one that likes the weird styling Hyundai has been using over the past half decade or so. Weird styling makes the cars stand out which is what lots of customers want.
It’s a mixed bag. I love the styling of Hyundai’s EVs but I think this is over the top.
Nah it’s bowling shoe ugly.
@@JCDenton95LOL! Never heard the term “bowling shoe ugly”, but I love it. (I used to bowl in a league as a teenager, and yeah, I had a pair of really ugly bowling shoes. But they were “groovy” back in 1972!)
This Hyundai is ugly, when Subaru had weird styling no one made excuses for them either.
It's all subjective, obviously. If it sells well, then you might be the weird one. 😅
It's astonishing to me that we live in a time when the presence of physical controls in a car is a major selling point
It's even more astonishing that most people consider physical controls to be a selling point, but manufacturers keep fucking it up.
on god tho @@joshua.harazin
Yeah if I want to change the temperature, or which vents the air is blowing through, I want to press a button or turn a knob (preferably the latter, for temperature adjustments).
Not go 3 menus deep in a slow-responsive touchscreen.
@@jeffb.6642 yep in my 2017 civic I had to go through the slow touch screen to change the fan speed. I have the 2024 Kona SEL convenience now though and have the physical controls back for all AC functions. The touch screen is also very responsive compared to my last car too.
Watching the two of you describe the cars you review is the best show on TH-cam. The dry humor and blunt talk are well executed and you take time to cover the good, bad and ugly. When I am next looking to buy another car you will be my source of inspiration.
They keep coming out with cars in my favorite color! Hot water tank gray!
I thought it was mint green.
I actually liked the revised exterior design. I’ve been very critical of Hyundai design the past few years (basically, I thought it was hideous), but I like how they’ve cleaned it up a bit so it doesn’t look so… off putting. Then again, I can totally appreciate how many people might still find it less than attractive. Great review as always 👍🏻
Dripping with sarcasm I hope.
@@whatthe6532 Sadly, no… but perhaps the bar was so low to begin with my views have been corrupted
My dude, I think it's time to book your next appointment with the optometrist.
@@stuntmonkey00 Haha! I actually have really terrible eyesight, so you might be on to something....
Gotta agree, like what they did.
I was looking at this car as well as the Toyota Corolla Cross and the Honda HR-V. And let me tell you that the interior to the Kona won me over. I could care less if people think it's ugly on the outside if the interior makes it a comfy ride for me. Better yet that the rest of the specs are up to par.
Agree 💯!!
1600 miles on my Kona SEL I am pleased with all aspects and enjoy driving it.
I thought I would hate the Kona and owning one would be soul crushing, but it's just a shockingly competent car. Fast enough in the 1.6T configuration, good amount of interior space, reasonable fuel economy, easy to use infotainment, good tech onboard and a transmission that isn't hateful. It's pretty much perfect for my wife tooling around Mainz and Frankfurt. We even took it on a road trip to Bergamo and...it was comfortable. Considering we got it loaded for 24k Euro, I genuinely cannot complain.
Stick that just something else to go wrong turbo. I wish people would wake up and realize turbos suck. put more stress on engine components put more heat in your engine oil something that is bad for your engine. I don't want to hear about warrenty because if you are a person who keeps your car long term, then the warrenty expires. My experience with Hyundai's powertrain warrenty has not been good. Now I know why some people call them stealerships.These guys don't care because they are driving this vehicle for a short time and they want a fun experience nothing more, so they want the damn turbo.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Ours is a two year lease for dirt cheap, so it will be someone else's problem. I tend to agree though and have always driven naturally aspirated cars (E46 M3, K20 Civic Si, BRZ, ND2 Miata, Genesis G90 V8).
I own a 2020 Kona SEL Plus with AWD and the 2.0 NA engine. It has a 6 speed auto and so far at 36K miles it has had no issues. I bought it new in March of 2020 and the only improvement it needed was a set of new tires. Put a new set of Bridgestone Turranzas on it at 25K because the factory tire was damn near dangerous on snow and ice. 33 MPGs in town with 27 MPGs in the city. The Plus trim has a ton of great options. 4 wheel independent suspension handles well, too.
Love the humor. The explanation of the Kona was understandable. This vehicle is economical and sporty! Thanks fella’s!
“somewhat of a Soul to it” I see what you did there Mark. 😊
I had a 2019 first gen Kona 1.6T with the 7 speed ecoshit dct. Enthusiasts love to shit on Hyundai, sometimes deserving, but it was a great and peppy little car. 0-60 in 6.6 per c&d for the fwd model like mine was. $26k otd with a decent stereo, lane keep assist and the best part, the acid/lime green exterior with matching interior accents. Great car for the 2 years and 44k I put on it as a travel nurse during peak covid. Only traded it in after securing an fk8 type r at msrp, but I’m glad to see Hyundai kept, and if anything, really leaned into the funky design.
if you were wondering what a Pontiac Aztek would look like in 2023... here you go.
Hyundai head of design "I want a futuristic CUV that looks like Robocop's helmet"
lol the dynamic you guys have is great.
Love the comedy hour underneath the lift.
It’s amazing to me anyone could say y’all hate Hyundai and Kia or EVs when your fairly glowing review of the Ioniq 5 is a huge part of why I own one.
Y’all have a clear perspective in your reviews, but that’s why I love your channel. I know what I’m getting and where you’re coming from in your reviews.
Yep. I bought a new 2018 Elantra in part because of their Mark's review.
I personally love the new design language. Interior AND exterior. Not to mention all the standard features.
You guys are so relaxed and knowledgeable on camera, you don’t need to curse to get your points across. Not an old man yelling at clouds, , just saying.
I know someone who lives in remote Louisiana that drove this across the country. They love it.
I recently took a Kona Limited Electric home. I had tried a Honda Prologue, Chevy Blazer and Nissan Ariya. Surprisingly I felt the build quality of the Kona superior. It was quieter at highway speeds and plenty of space. The seats fit like a glove. It was fast (about 6.5sec 0-60) and handled great let alone the supple ride quality. I think Hyundai has a winner. The interior was so intelligently laid out with physical buttons all lit at night.
I really don't understand why Kia/Hyundai are having so many quality issues and recalls. Sure, they are great on functional interior designs, but their long-term efficacy is really suspect.
But they offer a 200,000 mile warranty so it okay
Because the Koreans have always cut corners on parts/engineering to undercut the Japanese on price. Much like the Chinese are doing in Europe now.
And that 10 year, 100K mile warranty is a marketing gimmick/almost worthless b/c they are well known for making it extremely difficult to get approved for any warranty claims that their customers have. Just go read the Hyundai/Kia forums or Consumer Reports or Edmunds. And almost every owner has nothing but terrible things to say about the Hyundai/Kia dealer experience if you have to deal with repairs or warranty work or even the sales experience. Hopefully they do a better job with their PHEVs and EVs but I'm not holding my breath.
And the Koreans don't even really beat Toyota, Honda or Mazda that much on price anymore so I would take a Corolla Cross or CX-30 over this all day, every day.
I don't understand why people keep saying this when the JD Power results utterly refute it. For 223, Kia are literally number 3 behind Lexus and Genesis - Hyundai are 8th - both are WAY above Honda and Mazda - and of course the Germans who only have 1 brand that meets the industry average, with the rest being right down the bottom with other bottom feeders like Ford and Tesla.
Scotty says Hyundai and Kia are crap!
Simple, they come from the same country that brought us Scamsung, which does nothing but steal from others and cut corners. It's a philosophy they whole-heartedly adopted, and it shows in the garbage they make.
That infotainment/center stack section is fucking awesome.
Are you sure it’s not TOTALLY f’ing awesome?
The setup in my Elantra is very similar, it was a big reason why I chose it over a VAG product or other competitors. Physical buttons for climate and radio, changing media input and bringing up map/navigation, touch screen inputs for other things you don't need to access all the time that you mostly just set and leave be. They actually attempted to integrate the screens into the dash design instead of the taped on iPad look.
They make this as a hybrid in other countries but they didn’t bring it to the US. Which is a shame, especially since Hyundai has basically gotten rid of all of their small hybrids now apart from the Elantra Hybrid. So when my lease is up on my Ioniq Hybrid, I’ll probably buy the lease and go trade it in at Honda once the Civic Hatch Hybrid shows up.
The Tucson comes in Hybrid... unless you're speaking strictly of the subcompact class.
I'm not a big fan of their cladding but this Kona certainly has more interesting colors than most current offerings. I love the Mirage Green & Neoteric (what the H is that?!?!) Yellow; the orange is pretty eye catching too
I actually really love the interior styling of this car. I have a venue so anything would be an upgrade but I like my little go-kart. If Interest rates were not crazy right now I would consider this. I also don't think you guys trash Hyundai and Kia. I knew what I was getting with these cars. It does what I need it to do and I didn't spend a lot of money.
I ended up getting a 2024 Kona. I looked at the Venue but I needed a little more space than that and like the styling and interior of the Kona a lot more.
I love when a car journalist simply says the new Ford ecosport is a piece of shit
Triangular styling rules!
Triangular geometries offer inherent advantages in automotive design due to their structural stability, efficiency, and aerodynamic properties. Triangles distribute forces evenly, enhancing stability and safety in vehicle components like suspension systems and chassis frames. Their efficient use of materials reduces weight, improving fuel efficiency and reducing environmental impact. Additionally, triangular shapes minimize air resistance, enhancing aerodynamics for better vehicle performance.
Well Done.
But these triangles are 100% cosmetic and don’t have anything to do with the engineering or structure.
@@Sashazur so says the antitriagulist....
“…change their underwear every 2 years…” Mark -coolest automotive journalist on the planet.
A Hyundai Kona was the only vehicle enterprise has ever provided me that left me stranded. Not even Nissan or stellantis products has given me that pleasure
do you remember the model year?
@@bolm1 2021. It was a base model so I think it was the 2.0
@@Suction_its a rental car…
@@bradleyscarreviews Rentals are almost always used by the fleet within 3 years of the vehicle being delivered. So you are implying that the failed components died from abuse rather than age or poor design. The ICE versions of the Kona had recalls for starting spontaneous fires (similar issue to Elantas). I do like the comfortable interior the few times I rode in a Kona but I would not trust that thing to go A to B as a daily driver.
@@bradleyscarreviews correct. I get anywhere between 1 and 6 a month, since May 2021. Dozens and dozens of cars - Nissans, Fords, Stellantis, Toyota, VW, Hyundai, GMs, hell I had a few Audi's and BMWs. The ONLY one to leave me stranded was a Hyundai. Sure, I've had flat tires, infotainment glitches, cars with questionable mechanical soundness, but nothing that made me have to call and report in the motor locked up. Hell, I had an Altima once that was 3 years old with 75k on it - didn't leave me stranded.
15 miles after pickup. It started knocking, clattering almost immediately after getting on the highway right by the rental office. Pulled over and called them for a replacement. They told me directly to drive it to the closest store, where it locked up in route. Could it have been abused? Sure. I bet it was. But it only had 20k on the clock, and if it couldn't take the same beating models that I would argue are more prone to issues could, then it's an X in my book.
Review the new Chevy Trax. You know Mark wants to.
I was really leaning to this Kona as an upgrade over my old RSX (it's only .2" longer!) but when you mentioned getting 22 mpg, that gave me pause. Great all around car though. Hopefully they'll come out with a hybrid for the States.
I'm owner of 1gen ko a EV and just placed order for gen2 hybrid. Some people like it or not, but exterior design was something that actually gather my attention. I think Toyota cross will look outdated even in year or two, as we have more EV on the road - and this gen Kona will still look okay, you don't have to spend huge amount of money to get well spec version. What I hate is that you get BSM, 360cam, all parking sensor etc - but you have take one of higher trim to get black rear window
Heisenberg wants his wheels back.
I don't mind the looks at all.
Automakers are so gun-shy and complacent when it comes to visual design, and the general populace is so accepting of whatever bland generic box that rolls out on the lots, I applaud any effort to stand out from the crowd.
I wish they put the 8 speed on the 2.0l models but they're all CVT. Interestingly they have the traditional center console shifter and the 1.6T has the steering column one. The 1.6 is definitely faster but it is so laggy it doesn't really matter.
The column shifter is available on the SEL as part of the optional convenience package. I wish they made it standard on all trims.
Kona N has 8 speed DCT
That's odd that the 1.6T is laggy in this application, where it usually isn't in others.
I like the design language they're going for
I tend to agree. The N-line, at least, looks pretty cool. It has zero performance to back up its look, but if you just want the look, it’s got it.
Saw one being driven yesterday. Nice dark blue paint and it was an overcast cloudy day. Thing has great road presence.
That design is perfect for those with bdsm bondage fetish.
Even the tyres are perfectly matched for KumHo.
Yeah like it beats being mr. generic forgetable car, without having buckteeth so its a win in my book
They'll try to change it again in another 3 or 4 years
Ugly design tends to attract a few people.
Review is on point as usual. Definitely nothing I will ever drive unless I find myself homeless and need a soup kitchen.
Good forbid you drive a "poor person" car. Who the hell are you?
@@MaGiKRat420 I’m nobody 🤷
@S8ER then don't put down "homeless" cars. That simple.
@@MaGiKRat420 wait so if I’m someone then I can do it? I’m asking for Dirty Mike and the boys.
@S8ER if you are in a better position financially than most to where you feel the need to go "ewww peasant car", then you better be able to back up why it is you are better than having to drive that car.
And I don't think you can. And I think you like letting people know you don't need this car, which makes you twice the douche. It's not a good look, man.
More than a year ago, I bought a new 2023 Kona SEL with the 2.0, a CVT and AWD, for $29K out the door. It has been a great car. It took me a while getting used to it being larger than I was used to. It's perfect for me, that's all I can say. Great video, as always!
Larger than you were use too!?! What car did you drive before? I don’t think I’ve driven a car smaller than a 1st Gen Kona 😭
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 Great question! In my case I drove a total of 5 Ford Focus Hatchbacks over 20 years and maybe 300,000 miles, then I dropped into an even smaller Hyundai Accent, also a hatch. So yes, the Kona is larger than all of those. I had to be careful getting in and out of all those cars at just over 6 feet tall and hitting my head, especially the Accent. Now, I NEVER hit my head. BTW, I sold the Accent to a guy who is 4 foot 10 inches. It's perfect for him!
What kind of mpg are you getting?
@@nocoffeenogame High 20's for me as I mostly drive local roads and not highway.
I love how the triangles on this, Tuckson, Ioinq, triggers Mark.
Not saying GM Korea's Trax/Envista team and HyunKia's team copy each others work but they probably drink the same brand of Soju.
BGM and Ms Jackson is for real.
I can personally comment on Hyundai/Kia's honoring of their warranty: they will fight you tooth and nail to not pay out. their dealerships, at least within an 8 hour drive of where my car's engine literally punched the bottom of my hood, were all backlogged nearly a year, they dont offer loaners, they dont compensate for rentals until AFTER the repair is complete, and to be compensated for a rental takes months. So essentially, Hyundai/Kia knowingly sold millions of cars with a design fault and then fought to refuse to pay it out, to then require you to essentially have to buy a whole new vehicle while yours is being repaired (one dealership actually suggested i just buy another car while mine sits in their lot for almost a year before they even looked at it).
What I hate is: both companies knock it out of the park on styling and overall efficiency but I'll never give them another cent after fighting them nearly a year just be reimbursed for an engine they knew had issues. If i laid out everything that happened over the course of a year I could likely make a 30min video of just reading out my notes i started keeping about month 3 of my fight with them.
Imagine what the future holds for domestic commodity cars with the new UAW contract!
Headlights as a bumper zone🤔 Interesting choice
Interesting meaning stupid
MONEY
I can see how the styling is love it or hate it, but I'm one who loves it. Very Blade Runner/cyberpunk-esque, which is one of my favorite aesthetics. Especially in such a bland segment!
This must be an unpopular opinion but the Nline version of this car with the green paint looks absolutely stunning! Id totally buy a Kona N if they made one for this generation. I feel the Kona is probably their best looking car hyundai makes right now.
Well Kia makes the stinger, which you can’t beat, get that one instead
"stunning?" the bar must be on the ground for you...
@@entertained... That's a pretentious thing to say.
@@TheFire1290 if pavel describes something pedestrian as stunning, it says very little about something exotic if he describes that as stunning too... but yeah, i guess my comment is pretentious, if you look at people and everyone is equally beautiful haha.
The one inch rear leg room looks great. Also, Pontiac Aztek.
My 98 sub compact Sentra has better rear legroom 😅
34k and all hard touch!
We drive like Grandmas too but our 2021 model needed a new engine after 13,500 miles 😐 so many are currently under recall as well we had to wait.
I'm guessing you have the 2.0L with faulty piston rings. Don't feel too bad. This issue has even affected Toyotas in the past.
I assume you have to older 2.4 or 2.0 theta II engines. Many other owners are affected, and I myself had to do many engine replacements for them. My suggesting is to get a new Hyundai if you really love them, with a smartstream engine, their latest more reliable iteration. It has port and dual injection. I haven’t replaced any.
@@bradleyscarreviews neither engine was offered in the 2021 Kona. It's either the 2.0L Atkinson or the 1.6L turbo. The 2.0L had issues with faulty pistons on certain years.
@@bradleyscarreviews It was the 2.0L 4-Cylinder engine
@@woofsnwood yeah those had issues with faulty pistons like @palebeachbum said.
With views continuing to rise, good to see the contract with Patagonia has been renewed :: not bad :: 👏
Honestly I see no reason this should have gotten bigger. The old Kona was a perfect size
And the people who got it understood that trade off 🤷♂️
No the hell it wasn’t! Last gen was too cramped.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 but if u bought the car u already knew that…. 😂
For you, there's the Venue, which will probably grow right into this size.
@@DriverJ-N I test drove one. Even had one as a loaner car. So, I know that the interior dimensions is too small and cramped.
I'd never buy a Hyundai/KIA on principal alone the way they handled the KIA Boyz/USB theft issue.
they really killed the veloster N and made this thing an N instead 💀
If not for it only being an auto, the N is pretty dope.
This thing becoming an N is not what killed the Veloster N. Also KONAN is legend. Drive one, then criticize.
@@oraclemiata845 that wasn't what i was saying, i just said they chose this platform to be the replacement for the veloster N. it might be a great car but it still looks goofy.
Kona N is officially dead
@@oraclemiata845I drove one and it had no power. Is that what you found too?
"Pontiac Aztec" 💯
Sure are a lot of authorities posting in this thread who aren't even expert enough to remember that Pontiac misspelled the Aztek's name with a K.
@@tonysterbenc Feel better?
@@MrChristopherMolloy Than who?
@@tonysterbenc The "authorities"?
The trust isn't there yet for sure. So many recalls. And I remember that N that had an oil leak for your test.
Looking forward to more commentary from your new Asian host Jack Seoul. I’m sure his Korean heritage will bring amazing insights about Kia and Hyundai products.
I've the new gen of Tucson and, frankly, design of the car was big reason why I choose it really 😅
The subtitles are wild in this one! 🔥
Nothing beats a Toyota Matrix. Heard it here first folks
Ford EcoSport production ended over a year ago, with 2022 being the final model year. There may be a few still sitting on lots, but they aren't a competitor to anything anymore.
Also, the EcoSport was built in India, intended for Asian and European markets first. They only bothered selling it here because it was cheaper than designing something new just for the US
Exactly. No reason to discuss the EcoSport at all.
Ford should have a replacement for the Ecosport, say the Puma from Europe but I guess Ford has no interest in that .
@@John-kx3ng the Maverick has taken over the entry level option since you can theoretically get one for $20k (or at least you could when they first released). That small cuv segment probably doesn't have enough demand for them to bother designing a whole new vehicle that they'll just scrap in 5 years when they move more stuff to electric.
Interior and exterior is way ahead in this segment and price point. Love the exterior looks way more futuristic and modern than the basic Corolla and hrv and Mazdas. Interior is way ahead looks way more modern
1.6T Kona suppose can have manual transmission but Hyundai USA and Canada don't bother to bring them in. I would like to have one as security device.
In English, please?
I guess they named it Kona because Aztec had already been used?
Oh darn 😂. Now, I can't unsee it. I wanted a new Kona but not now.
@@shaunip345
I was always of the opinion you guys had a soft spot for Korea cars. I think you need to start reviewing the mid tier version though. Most buyers of the Kona are not getting the top tier, I would rather see what the SEL is like.
Not really a Hyundai fan but I have to give credit there. Four-wheel-drive system is actually really good. It’s better than the standard four-wheel-drive in the RAV4. I don’t know about the torque vectoring version but we got dumped on last winter and I was stuck on my road and couldn’t leave my house basically and there was one of these just chugging along, I had cross climate two tires and they had whatever was on there from the factory didn’t look like anything too aggressive
Imagine owning a Kona knowing what would normally be a minor parking lot scrape instead destroying one of your head or tailights, requiring a ASAP choice between a thousand-plus dollar repair or living with a nighttime safety hazard and police magnet. I wouldn't be surprised if insurance premiums for this generation Kona go through the roof.
When I watched Mark beating the back seat of the Kona down flat - I knew I was on the right car review channel. 👍
I can’t wait to see if you guys get ahold of a Bolt EUV- there’s so much fodder there. I can see a picture of GM tower in Detroit with the sun behind it shining like Camelot, then Mary Barra saying GM could sell the Bolt at $20k and still make a profit, then Mary saying they were cancelling the Bolt, then cut to a deep fake of Mary begging for change on the street. That’s just the overlord drama, the car itself- designed in Korea, made in Detroit, full of piano black, nearly identical to a KonaEV underside, and how- in spite of it’s usual shenanigans, GM made a good appliance car, sold it cheaply, and now is ready to GMF’it up with the Ultium redesign to fit lower e-density batteries in to play the “Follow the Tesla” game that destroyed Ford’s EV aspirations. I think you could spend a week brainstorming angles of attack on this one.
I would take the Kia Seltos over this new Kona on exterior design alone.
They are already on recall before even hitting the roads. I was about to buy it today, but delyayed my decision after reading consumer reports.
The black plastic cladding on the fenders of modern crossovers are getting out of hand.
Also, bring back the old piano outro!
I like how they are all squared off to make them look more butch, it's pretty goofy.
I'm glad they outgrew the old piano outro. The new intro goose is much badder than the old goose, too.
I might drive porsches every day but I only really get excited about cars when savage geese drops a video on a shitbox
Appreciate the honesty, feels different watching this after already getting the car haha
yep I got the 2024 Kona SEL Convenience. It was kind of an impulsive buy and I sold my 2017 Civic coupe 1.5 turbo with 80k miles to get it. After having it for a couple weeks though, I'm loving it. Its not quite as fast as my last car but the interior experience is awesome with the dual screen setup
It’s hilarious how bored you guys sound when reviewing boring cars. Love it!
If you thought this sounded like boredom, watch them 3 months later as they bravely struggle to retain consciousness in a VW Taos.
I actually really like the Kona N...hope they keep that going, even if this has gotten comparatively massive.
@@watchfuleye275 They need to up production of them a bit, too. I got SUPER lucky and happened to find a white one locally but that was...like...the only one anywhere nearby. I know demand isn't super high but they seem pretty rare.
I think they need a new design for the next N or redo the Veloster. As a Kona N owner, I wouldn't want it any bigger. They are making the Ioniq (5?) N.
@@VroomNDoom2602 Yea, one of the best things about the Kona N is how tiny it is. I was actually surprised how small they are.
This is vehicular proof Chris Bangle moved to Korea with his retired friends from the GM team responsible for the Aztek.
In 2014 we bought a Hyundai Elantra. At 50,000 miles Hyundai replaced the engine with a remanufactured shortblock. Meaning they replaced the bottom half of the engine and reused the head of our engine. with a 400.00 dollar- copay, which I think was for labor. A year later it developed an oil leak. Took it in and they said the oil pan gasket was leaking. I assumed they would remove the oil pan clean the surfaces and replace the gasket. Silly me, no they replaced the oil pan to the tune of 400.00 dollars again. I got a recall notice for the brakes. while there they said the rear high mount brakelight was not working. The car was inspected by my own local mechanic the day before and everything was fine, and it passed. They wanted 58.00 to reconnect they wire that I believe they disconnected. No thanks no more Hyundais for me. Toyota or Honda next time.
Can you offer some more detail on how the engine changes resulted in less fuel economy? 5hp isn't a substantial variance. What engine changes specifically would be interesting to hear about.
Saw one driving down the road yesterday, I like the looks.
Yeah it looks alright in person
Yep I like it too. Definitely can see why it's polarizing, but I like it.
And this is why vehicle designs are god awful today.
Eh I saw one and had the opposite reaction. But a design that gets opinions is better than one that’s boring.
@@svn5994 stay mad bro
Out of the cars you mentioned in the caption,which one? HRV vs Kona?
Wait for the N model (not N-Line). Sorry we in the USA missed the i30 fastback; Hyundai could have lifted that 2 inches and sold it as a CUV Cute-UTE Coupe, then lowered it 2.5 inches for N Spec.
They’re not making an N.
Styling is in the eye of the beholder. I like that its different and not as radical as the Tuscan.
Had the 1.6 L Dual Clutch and had a mountain of issues. Glad the DCT is gone and interested to see what Hyundai does next
Surprised you didn’t mention it - but Kona vs. CrossTrek?
That exterior is certainly.. a choice. I guess if you need a cheap SUV with character it's far better than any other option out there. The Koreans have gotten much better at quality control in recent years, just a shame that the MPG kinda sucks. If you buy, plan to keep it until it becomes too expensive to keep fixing.
They still have poor quality control and use low quality internal components. Kia/Hyundai models still commonly suffer from engine failure and transmission problems. Their dealership network do their best to not honor warranty claims. It can be a nightmare dealing with their dealerships.
@zarbon700 have yet to get in a smartstream 2.0/1.6T yet. Not saying it's not possible, but since the 21 update of the 2.0, I've seen no issues with engines. Of course, it's early, but it's also been available in SK for longer with no issues as far as I've heard.
@@zarbon700 Spoken like a true idiot. Reading reports from 10 years ago I see, while ignoring millions of Toyota's current vehicles being recalled. Maybe crack open a Consumer Reports or JD report and see how Kia/Hyundair models do NOT suffer engine failure... dude, you haven't read anything remotely recent, have you? When you want to join the rest of us in 2023 and realize Toyota has more engine recalls than Kia/Hyundai, let us know.
will the engine blow up and need to be replaced with 50K?
Valid concern.
Never, impossible.
i unfortunately had a bad experience with hyundai (had a veloster n 6MT with a bad engine at 250 miles, and they didnt want to be responsible for it :( i have a daily driver Toyota Corolla Cross AWD LE and i genuinely like it alot.
They didn’t honor the warranty, right?
One of the reasons why I despise Hyundai. 🤮
I have a 2018 kona 1.6t AWD with 7 speed dual clutch, the life time fuel economy is 22 mpg and it's on eco mode most of the time. My 2016 cx5 gets 24.5 mpg without babying it.
It's crazy that they call these cars SUVs. I rented a Kona recently and it reminded me of my old Yaris. Very fun car to drive around the city though.
I dont know if that Chevy Trax bit was sarcasm but im very interested in your review of one. Im trying to figure out what the catch is with that price tag
Its a FWD only Chinese car
@@666cemetaryslut Factually wrong... the Chevy Trax is manufactured in South Korea... do your research.
It's a Korean built GM. They cheaped out in the interior.
I've sold a few of these so far and I will say that they are much nicer and roomier than the outgoing model. The styling isn't awful though I have my own opinions on the neoteric yellow that they come in, especially because we were sent six in that color including our first 24 Kona EV and it was a limited 🤣The Kona is really popular with the elderly crowd that wants AWD and to be higher up than a sedan but doesn't want or need something as big as a Tucson or Santa FE. They're very [popular in the used market for anyone who's looking for a practical and affordable AWD hatchback. Also it definitely feels like the 2024 Kona EV was nerfed a bit from the outgoing model. While it has about the same range, it doesn't feel as torquey and quick as the previous generation.
The 2nd version of the first generation was really pretty. What they've done?.
Design is better this time around, but the fact remains that H&K are terrible at engine design. This as an EV is much better but there are signs that there are design issues there as well (not the battery or motor but the gear bearings lubing). As always the customers will bear the brunt on a vehicle that depreciates faster than an NFT.
It's too bad because I really wanted a Kona N or EV. But the former has sus reliability and the latter is using software updates to reduce torque on the electric motor to mask the gearing issue and give it room from the base Ioniq5, against which it has a significant torque advantage.
The updated Kona EV uses a completely different powertrain design than the old one to (hopefully) resolve the powertrain issues the previous one had. The torque change is not software related, the motor and reduction gear are physically different from before. My 2019 Kona EV has been a great car but it did get a new motor under warranty because of a rumble noise. Coming from a problematic Toyota (they do exist) I’m glad to have the long warranty on my Kona.
The N doesn’t have suspect reliability either. People are basically just abusing them daily.
What's wrong with the 1.6L Turbo engine? It's a fantastic engine that has been proven very reliable since it launched. Lemme guess, you'll make a joke about something that literally has nothing to do with the 1.6L Turbo. I'll eat my popcorn and wait.
@@wolfshanze5980 Nah I can share some stuff as I owned one for 4 years, 80k miles and ran mods on it: intercooloer, tune, intake, suspension, etc.
What I learned early on is that it is hard on oil, and finding shavings here and there in the pan is "normal".
I learned the entusiast market is tiny, and while support is great, many local shops won't touch it with a 10 ft pole, leaving you with dealerships and their maligned service staff. Look for the master techs, they've likely moved to greener pastures as corporate have made it challenging to want to work there. I have more on this but want to limit the dump.
At the end of the day it is slower than a Mazda3, even the new prius, and especially older Honda's with a turbo setup that only guarantees to use more gas, generate more heat and create more issues down the line.
I loved my Forte5 but I had a lfp failure that i resolved myself, then a hpfp failure (again I resolved myself), then part fo the harness fried leaving me without a radiator fan that lead to an overheat I luckily caught (this was warrantied but they tried to deny me for aftermarket intake and springs).
So why did I get rid of mine? AC compressor failed and dealer raked me over the coals on the bill but gave me an refurb, not oem unit.
Afterwards I noticed fuel trims we getting really out of wack, indicating a vaccuum leak no dealer could find and no shop wanted to touch.
And this is with the 1.6T which is better than their 2.0 which is majorly maligned to the point where tech's hate them as well.
How's the popcorn?
Drove the previous gen and hated the DCT and my head was tickling the roof. At least it appears they fixed those things.
Why did you hate the dct?
I love the sounds of the wind and leaves in the background, it makes the video feel a bit spooky.
"Absurd Styling" is absolutely spot-on! There must be something in the water, in S. Korea...
Styling, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't make the car more or less reliable, more or less fast, more or less comfortable... the styling literally has no effect on the car AT ALL. What one person may see as ugly, another may think is the best ever. Let people judge for themselves. People bought the Nissan Cube for crying out loud. You can only speak of what styling you like, not someone else.
Hyundai: single handedely making the HR-V look reasonably handsome.
The HRV looks like a Pacer.
I think the HR-V DOES look reasonably handsome. It'd be held in higher regard if it didn't have a paralytic lack of power. That thing would be transformed by a turbo.
Please update you video title to indicate which power train (petrol, ev) you are reviewing.
I love the exterior so much, I bought an orange one! 🧡🧡🧡 I bought base SE model and it feels fully loaded. It's a great car inside and out!!