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@MythVisionPodcast You say "anti-semitism", quite a lot Do you not also fairly acknowledge the other side of this?? The talmud has immensely hateful parts towards non jews Atheist, but ethnic jewish people had an awful lot to do with one of the very most evil and cruel ideologies of all time : Bolshevik communsim Just saying there are very much two sides to this throughout much of history I dont like either side
MythVision Podcast, are you deleting my comments or youtube is? I wrote a couple of comments explaining the confusion about the titles lord and god, in the Bible, but they were deleted. Obviously, someone does not want God's true character of nonviolence to be known.
,Most English bibles egregiously mistranslate "Yahweh" as "the Lord." Yahweh is a mass-murdering tyrant who is never kind, much less loving, in the Torah.
I absolutely love listening to all of your interviews with Dr. Litwa. He's a wonderful speaker and I've learned so much from him and your channel. Thank you!
Set (/sɛt/; Egyptological: Sutekh - swtẖ ~ stẖ or Greek: Seth /sɛθ/) is a god of deserts, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion. In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Sēth (Σήθ). Set had a positive role where he accompanies Ra on his barque to repel Apep, the serpent of Chaos.
I always liked that story where he helped Ra. It gives me Loki vibes a little bit. A diety who's usually a dark or negative being deciding to step in and aid a fellow God and show that he can be good. Gotta love a face turn
Oh my. I’m so interested in this subject I have had so many revelations about this very thing. Can’t afford the book currently…it however is on my list though. Keep up the great work many of us are on a mission to learn the truth.
Same here re: revelations. It's a notion for which I've sought insight, and I have really enjoyed the video. This information seems to dove-tails well with Paul wallis' work. He has A 3- part YT series titled, "The Scarey truth about the Bible. And he has 2 books out, and a 3rd to soon be released. The title of the first is "Escaping from Eden." He seems to have a rather unique view.
I had a perplexing dream about these themes and had been doing some research into the matter myself..lo and behold the concept has some weight behind it
I really enjoyed this episode. I’m particularly interested in the influence Egyptian mythology played in the development of Jewish mythology. I’m ordering the book :-)
Yes! More content like this please! I just found your channel a few weeks ago so just now seeing this video. I grew up in a mainstream denomination of this religion. Between the ages of 16 and 20, I sincerely tried to seek / follow God. I was a Christian religious fanatic. At 18, I had a dream that really puzzled me. I was at the church. I saw a friend of mine the same age. We weren't best buds at all and didn't really run so much in the same circles either but we were still friends. Then in the conversation, I remembered that he was really dead. Had died a year or so earlier in an accident on a farm. When I remembered, I said hey man, you're dead! He acknowledged and then I asked him what its like? (maybe i asked what's heaven like? or what's God like? I don't remember exactly). He responded saying something like "God is a bit strange". me: "what do you mean?" Him: "God is not right" (something like that. I think I wrote this down but I would need to find the notebook at my mom's house which is 1500 miles away from where I live) Anyways, I then had an intense overwhelming vision of this 'god'. He was huge, 25 maybe 50 feet tall. Dressed all in black, what seemed like a type of armor. It was sleek, very stylish actually. Lightning bolts were hitting around him. I could not see his face though. Had some kind of helmet, seemed transparent but I could not see his face. My feeling and impression was that he was evil but I had some serious cognitive dissonance and couldn't reconcile it. About 25 years later in my 40s, I was first exposed to gnostic ideas. There's something to this stuff. Its not all myth and make believe.
This was pretty interesting. I'd be interested in hearing more. It makes sense that the Marcionite view would be based on the strange old Seth legend as Gnosticism originates in Alexandria.
This topic was very interesting especially since I’m an exJw and believed that yhwh or Jehovah was the true god my whole life til I woke up 2 yrs ago. Yes I would be very interested for you to do another interview!!
Ex JW here - I woke up a few years back and I'm still deprogramming from the Watchtowers twisted teachings, good on you for getting out, I'm still shunned by my ex husband and siblings (parents died years ago) and my oldest two children (son is an elder and daughter an elders wife) and haven't spent a single day with my grandchildren! Hope you're happier now, I know I am, live a good life and much respect to you ❤️
@@alisonholland7531 thank you I’m so happy to be out the freedom is amazing! I’m so sorry you lost your family because of that evil cult. I’m happy you found happiness too.
Amazing amount of info new to me. Thank you It occurs to me that there may be many evil criminals that are unaware that they are following a god so diligently.
Right on! I read about this stuff a lot. This guest is very interesting. It doesn't take much to see how influential Serapis was to Gnosticism. Jesus was the snake at the garden and became an eagle watching the exile from the garden in the Gnostic books. Those are symbols of Horus.
Great talk... loving David's appearance on the channel The comments section is pretty funny for this. Half love it, the other half read the title and are leaving a comment in rage without listen or understanding the presentation
I really love the shows with Dr Litwa in them. He seems very knowledgeable and has a serenity about him that is really easy to listen to. Keep up the great work!
Great video, very digestible and informative ! As christians, I think we often forget what Jesus and his hand-picked disciples describe as the Spirit of the law vs the law ...(Spirit of the law _vs_ the law) Jesus fully kept and fought/contended for the "Spirit" of the law, but constantly fought against, exposed and broke the "law". That is what killed Him on a cross: His obedience in keeping and promoting the "Spirit" of the law while exposing the evil of the "law".
This was so good! I just stumbled upon your channel and had to subscribe because of this interview. I definitely would like to see Dr. Litwa on here again. Now I can't wait to see more of the stuff you've got here. Good work, keep it up!
Luke 11:11 - Jesus says what Father would gives his Son a snake when he asks for fish, to me this is obviously referring to YHWH in Numbers 21:6, I'm always surprised this obvious reference is overlooked by Christians and critics alike.
Great guest as always! 😃 I would like to hear about Dr. Litwa's interpretation of who Sophia was according to these early Christian sects? Merry Christmas and have a great New Year!
Very interesting, I love cracking through history, And I'm coming out of dogmatic Christianity. Seeking what might the actual truth be. While still leaning towards the historical Jesus. Open minded here, thank you enjoyed learning today.
Wish people would stop using the term Anti-semetic as a standalone phrase for anti Jewish. Say 'Ani-Jewish as semetic covers a group of languages. Derek should well be aware of this. Great presentation. I bought the book mentioned in the presentation, which was expensive.
I have always known that "God" was a spirit and is the highest in love and goodness. God has no earthly characteristics, like greed, hate, jealousy which is man's way which change with feeling the ultimate touch of God.
@@suatustel746 yes, YOUR personal experience of some invisible entity out there. or your own intellectual perception. other people has different and more positive experiences with God
@@tinostmrg9046 l don't have any personal experience, perception, intuition and facts. Ask yourself is life constitutes a luxurious state or consists of drudgery repeatable circles. By the way I'm not pessimistic or delusional entity.....
@@tinostmrg9046 nono no! We're faulty products living in faulty universe. Here's my case, ake a walk on a lonely lane at night what does prey your mind immidieatly, darkness, apparition a feral animal or a human waiting to ambush you, it'd be precluded from the onset, your God allowed that so called free will. I spit on it!!!!!
I would like Derek to ask his guests their thoughts on Herod and Pilot taking the place of the high priest in the Passover and Yom Kippur analogies of the passion narratives.
This dude is just another snake oil sales man ,selling his wares . Nothing new under the sun! YAHUAH knows what's best for us , no one said it would be easy , amein.
Thanks for confirming Egypt's acknowledgement of the exodus of Israel even though archeologist and certain historians say there is no record or evidence of an exodus from Egypt ever.Why would Egyptians weave a counter story if it were not so?
Dr Litwa, the only differences in the Egyptian version of the Exodus as you described it are 1) the Egyptians expelled the Hebrews. 2) the Egyptian version recognizes these actions as evil. In the Hebrew version, Yahweh is also not a good god. He murders all the firstborn males of the Egyptians and causes plagues that would have killed almost all the Egyptians, who are the ones who pay for Yahweh’s evil, even though he raised up Egypt just for that purpose. Thanks for the informative interview. 👍
I was always taught that Satan is the "god of this world" but Satan was never supposed to be a god so I think they say, "ruler of this world" as opposed to the creator or god, he is King of the World because Adam sinned and the world was given to Satan to do mischief in. As an atheist, I don't believe any of this nonsense anymore and figuring out what ancient people actually believed when they had a completely different system of thought and took drugs and fasted for visions and lied to each other is impossible. Summation: There were no gods, no spirits, no angels, not even "the force" involved in human history. There were men following the inclinations of men and pretending they had "god on their side" for obvious human reasons, the leaders often claimed to be gods and acted like it to enhance their power and used the rudimentary science they sponsored to do "miracles". History and fiction always include gods because it sells and because the gods were part of history just not a real part.
laughable... you're no different than a toad living under a basket. you obviously do NOT know other parts of reality in this planet that goes against your 3D world
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@@healingrays3229 Dear sir or madame, when did I express interest in being healed of my blindness? There are better things to do than jump to conclusions.
Set (Egyptological: Sutekh - or Greek: Seth) is a god of storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethianism). It's unclear whether there is any connection of any kind between the Egyptian "Set" and the Hebrew "Seth," brother of Cain & Abel, and the third son of Adam & Eve, or if this purely a coincidence.
@@johnmcfarland1910 I'm saying it's strange so many atheists I've known and found tend to vouch for Jews (ethnically I'm one) and not be against the supremacistic views that religious Jews almost always have. Yes even reformed Jews.
According to Epiphanius (c. 375), Sethians were in his time found only in Egypt and Palestine. Philaster (4th c, CE) places the Ophites, Cainites, and Sethians as pre-Christian Jewish sects. Sethians identified Seth with Christ (Second Logos of the Great Seth), (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethianism)
In the O.T., King Solomon rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. Jesus was following that type. So questions about the donkey representing Set would have to extend back to that time.
Yes! The spirit of God is riding inside of this stubborn animal who normally is just that, a stubborn animal refusing to acknowledge the non physical reality. When all the first born were killed, this was there exile. Enslaved in the flesh. So he takes control of his animal and rides it to be sacrificed ultimately freeing him from the physical. Because consciously he was freed and wasn't forced to reincarnate. Something like that.
Re the Jesus on a donkey theme I would note that it first appears in gMark, and Mark the evangelist is connected with Alexandria. He supposedly was bishop of the church of Alexandria. Of course we don't actually know who wrote the "gospel of Mark", so it might not have been this Mark at all. It's also interesting that according to the Egyptians the Semitic Hyksos people worshipped Seth.
Race isn't the same thing as religion, the whole "anti-Semitic" thing is kinda bullshit because of the mixing of the two into one thing. It seems more than slightly intellectually dishonest in the modern times to use that term as though someone is "racist" when they are against a religion a race of people. You shouldn't have to defend yourself constantly when you criticize a religion because you will for some reason get called racist when they aren't the same things. As for the race part, you can be a Jew and not be the stereotypical "Jew" racially. Semitic isn't a race to start, it isn't a religion either, its a language group.
I can't help but feel like 'elf' is a dog whistle for jew. I don't like Judaism as a religion yes but still though don't be an asshole to Jews as people unless they do bad things plz.
@@karlazeen It's a meme. He means that most rich people are Zionists. And if you criticize them, even if you don't hate them blindly, you are labeled an anti-Semite. Meaning, anti-Semite, usually just means "stop saying things I don't like".
@@karlazeen Agreed, no reason to demonize an entire race of believer's unless being a judgemental dipshit is taught as part of your religion. Wait! What? Seems my cognitive dissonance is finally subsiding...
It seems that YHVH represents the god of the physical universe and the father christ refers to is the god of the spiritual universe. The imagery of christ riding the donkey into jerusalem depicting christ being in control over this god of the physical universe. The idea of YHVH being the demiurge or creator of the physical and representative of that which binds us to the physical such as the ego and lower emotions are seen in his describing himself as "jealous" and being a vengeful , wrathful and hatefilled god. In the vedantic hindu system there are many lower gods and devas that are imperfect yet higher up in the system of being than mankind. They also have belief in the spiritual universe which is not tainted by the cycle of being that exists in the physical universe. It seems that it would be difficult to say that YHVH is perfect and it seems to be in many ways the same character that's referred to as the opposer /satan in other scriptures. It's pretty confusing though because so many cultures have worshiped the imperfect gods of the physical universe and sometimes the one of the spiritual universe.
A painter adds something to a painting that he likes, but upon stepping back, it doesn't fit. So he works on it and tries to get it to fit, but it won't. Sadly wiping it out of the painting is an "unconscionable act?" Do you know how the prophets linked world events to the stars? Do you have any idea where we are now in the story? For centuries epic events have been depicted in the stars and described beforehand. You snooze, you lose. Edit: difference being: we CHOOSE not to fit
Excellent show! Yes, definitely more with this very knowledgeable doctor! I should remind you, though, that even in the Bible there is no ONE “devil” or “satan.” There are various adversaries, including YHVH himself. Regarding the temptations of Christ, the god who was speaking obviously thought he owned the kingdoms of Israel, which was the “world” in view here. Who was that God? Based upon this video, was it YHVH? Just a thought.
All religions from paganism to Judism, Christianity, Musslims and other's that have broken off from them. Are all based on STORIES. Use any dictionary and look up the basic meaning of the word STORY. Using just one of the many stories I was taught in my youth. The story of Santa Claus has become so convoluted, when comparing the original to the present version of the story and it's only been a hundred or two years. It's no wonder why there are so many versons, sect, factions of religions today because like any story. They become so convoluted, there no where near their origanal version. One can use the ole' FISH STORY as example. The fish always gets larger every time the story is told.
Paul in Romans 13:1-2 insisted that "the powers that be are invested of God" and that whoever resists that power will be damned. Yet in Matthew 4:8-11, Satan is the one who tempts Jesus with all the world's kingdoms and says he will give all of them to Jesus if he will worship him. So from that, how could one logically conclude anything else but that Satan is the god in power over the world, and that YHWH either wants it that way or is himself Satan?
Literacy in the times of these works was minimal . For the average person the idea that God cursed someone nailed to a tree etc. Would have been a problem would not have occured because there would have been no awareness. Much like churches today there is only a superficial view, some short random texts, out of context to support growing church membership, some magical rituals to make you special and so on. The massive size of a church building spoke more to the average person than the details of the Trinity or conflicts in texts.
There may be traces of Egyptian theology in Valentinism, including Horos, "a figure entirely peculiar to Valentinian Gnosticism is that of Horos... The name is perhaps an echo of the Egyptian Horus.[14][21] ...he becomes a kind of world-creative power, who in this capacity helps to construct an ordered world out of Sophia and her passions." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinianism#Demiurge)
"My god, my god, why have you forsaken me?" So there's the idea that YHWH is either the same as Jesus' Father and the idea that he is other than the god Jesus spoke about. Has anyone considered that Jesus was simply duped and that he was too late to realize it?
nope. Yeshua intentionally came to disarm the rulers/powers (whose chief was Yaldabaoth) who ruled over the realm of matter, through his death and resurrection.
Humankind in the beginning chose to reject God’s warning about not eating the fruit causing us to become imperfect in thought and causing us to put our own desires above God. In the end we must seek a new heart and a right attitude to reject our ego. Psalms 51:10. Man later rejected the true God’s rulership over them by wanting a king. Yes, satan now rules this world with his princes till the rightful leadership comes under The Most High. We live under corrupt religion and government until Jesus bringing in his Father’s kingdom. We must realize that the true Most High God of Love who created all is not Yahweh, a god of war and mischief. We don’t even know the Creators name. We address Him as Father or Abba, a more intimate one. The Most High’s words and teachings were suppressed for the most part and Yahweh was elevated to His position and this Yahweh’s laws and desires were attributed to his Creator. The Most High sent true prophets to the wayward Israelites and I feel Yahweh had his also. It’s a mixed up mess to confuse the reader of the bible. Yahweh was kept in the bible to justify war and the law given by evil angels, thereby keeping us from the freedom of the children of The Most High.
The evil creator sends the devil down to get people to worship him with false religions then scapegoats anyone who questions his religions as the devil or devils
Did riding a donkey represent willfully stepping into the prophecies of that god to intersect the intended "messiah" role and overturn that god's rule. He rode into town ON their god - then had his way with that evil god's plan. He did call him out after all.
Paul says that the law was given by angels, not God. And that angels are sometimes evil. He also says that you "were fooled by the God of this world". This all points to Paul being some sort of Gnostic and not really a Jew. Strange that David Litwa still considers him Jewish.
"Not really a Jew" like "not a true Scotsman" is awkward in the extreme for a point in time when everything religious was in flux, separating and combining and inventing. It would be very difficult, likely impossible, to draw a sharp line between what was and what was not Jewish; Judaism had many sects and offshoots each blending into others (much like Christianity now), and both worked to wipe out the existence and evidence of existence of those in-between beliefs and other "heretical" beliefs. Paul was Roman and Jew with all the contaminants to each of his time.
@@kathryngeeslin9509 I know. But if I were a to make distinctions, I would broadly paint him as a Gnostic. As his views stray too far for me to really label him a Jew. I mean, once you slip Christ as another God entirely, what really is there binding you to the Torah? Well, according to Paul himself, not much.
@@johnnonamegibbon3580 Given that historians call you a Jew whether you worship the Canaanite gods Asherah, Baal, El, and others, or at the other extreme that you think El and Yahweh are different names for a supreme creator of the solar system and believe Asherah and Baal are either evil spirits or don't exist at all, then why wouldn't they also call someone a Jew whother they worship that creator of the solar system or believe he is an emanation of the higher being they worship instead? Given that the differences between 900 BC Judaism and 1st century AD Judaism are enormous yet we lump them together under the banner of Judaism, why not also lump the Gnostics in with the solar system creator worshippers in the first century? It seems like an arbitrary line to draw.
@@compulsiverambler1352 To me, and this is arbitrary, but Gnosticism is a clear departure from Judaism. My order is Judaism(all the cults of Israel), Gnosticism (that weird quasi platonic Alexandrian cult with ties to the Osiris/Seth myth, and lastly Christianity. Anyone who morphs Gnosticism into a real world Christ spirit. What isn't interpolated into the Epistles is clearly of some weird Gnostic Alexandrian.. thing.
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@MythVisionPodcast You say "anti-semitism", quite a lot Do you not also fairly acknowledge the other side of this?? The talmud has immensely hateful parts towards non jews Atheist, but ethnic jewish people had an awful lot to do with one of the very most evil and cruel ideologies of all time : Bolshevik communsim Just saying there are very much two sides to this throughout much of history I dont like either side
@@MultiBurger1 The only people more annoying than communists are anti-communists (imho). Especially anti-semitic ones. Imho.
@N RJ Nice try at a red herring , there It isnt taken out of context Judaism is FULL of racism, and supremacism ; especially the talmud, and zohah
MythVision Podcast, are you deleting my comments or youtube is? I wrote a couple of comments explaining the confusion about the titles lord and god, in the Bible, but they were deleted. Obviously, someone does not want God's true character of nonviolence to be known.
,Most English bibles egregiously mistranslate "Yahweh" as "the Lord." Yahweh is a mass-murdering tyrant who is never kind, much less loving, in the Torah.
I really enjoy Dr Litwa's delivery, his calm and orderly rendering of his thoughts. Always a fascinating presentation. Thanks! 🤙
I absolutely love listening to all of your interviews with Dr. Litwa. He's a wonderful speaker and I've learned so much from him and your channel. Thank you!
Yes! Yes! Yes!! More Dr Litwa! I could watch you two for hours!! So fascinating
Set (/sɛt/; Egyptological: Sutekh - swtẖ ~ stẖ or Greek: Seth /sɛθ/) is a god of deserts, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion. In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Sēth (Σήθ). Set had a positive role where he accompanies Ra on his barque to repel Apep, the serpent of Chaos.
I always liked that story where he helped Ra. It gives me Loki vibes a little bit. A diety who's usually a dark or negative being deciding to step in and aid a fellow God and show that he can be good. Gotta love a face turn
Oh my. I’m so interested in this subject I have had so many revelations about this very thing. Can’t afford the book currently…it however is on my list though. Keep up the great work many of us are on a mission to learn the truth.
here's a good page 😉
th-cam.com/play/PL8JjCqKJPk8qIp4q-7AAbl91-_wIjm88Y.html
Do you have a local library? If so, ask them to purchase a copy if they haven't already.
It’s fascinating , as an atheist I’m quite disturbed by how fascinating I find it all
Same here re: revelations. It's a notion for which I've sought insight, and I have really enjoyed the video. This information seems to dove-tails well with Paul wallis' work. He has A 3- part YT series titled, "The Scarey truth about the Bible. And he has 2 books out, and a 3rd to soon be released. The title of the first is "Escaping from Eden." He seems to have a rather unique view.
I had a perplexing dream about these themes and had been doing some research into the matter myself..lo and behold the concept has some weight behind it
Def bring him back. He always offers great insights!
Two thumbs up for this one. Merry Christmas!!
I really enjoyed this episode. I’m particularly interested in the influence Egyptian mythology played in the development of Jewish mythology. I’m ordering the book :-)
Yes! More content like this please! I just found your channel a few weeks ago so just now seeing this video. I grew up in a mainstream denomination of this religion. Between the ages of 16 and 20, I sincerely tried to seek / follow God. I was a Christian religious fanatic. At 18, I had a dream that really puzzled me. I was at the church. I saw a friend of mine the same age. We weren't best buds at all and didn't really run so much in the same circles either but we were still friends. Then in the conversation, I remembered that he was really dead. Had died a year or so earlier in an accident on a farm. When I remembered, I said hey man, you're dead! He acknowledged and then I asked him what its like? (maybe i asked what's heaven like? or what's God like? I don't remember exactly). He responded saying something like "God is a bit strange".
me: "what do you mean?"
Him: "God is not right" (something like that. I think I wrote this down but I would need to find the notebook at my mom's house which is 1500 miles away from where I live)
Anyways, I then had an intense overwhelming vision of this 'god'. He was huge, 25 maybe 50 feet tall. Dressed all in black, what seemed like a type of armor. It was sleek, very stylish actually. Lightning bolts were hitting around him. I could not see his face though. Had some kind of helmet, seemed transparent but I could not see his face. My feeling and impression was that he was evil but I had some serious cognitive dissonance and couldn't reconcile it. About 25 years later in my 40s, I was first exposed to gnostic ideas. There's something to this stuff. Its not all myth and make believe.
This was pretty interesting. I'd be interested in hearing more. It makes sense that the Marcionite view would be based on the strange old Seth legend as Gnosticism originates in Alexandria.
This topic was very interesting especially since I’m an exJw and believed that yhwh or Jehovah was the true god my whole life til I woke up 2 yrs ago. Yes I would be very interested for you to do another interview!!
Ex JW here - I woke up a few years back and I'm still deprogramming from the Watchtowers twisted teachings, good on you for getting out, I'm still shunned by my ex husband and siblings (parents died years ago) and my oldest two children (son is an elder and daughter an elders wife) and haven't spent a single day with my grandchildren!
Hope you're happier now, I know I am, live a good life and much respect to you ❤️
@@alisonholland7531 thank you I’m so happy to be out the freedom is amazing! I’m so sorry you lost your family because of that evil cult. I’m happy you found happiness too.
@@alisonholland7531such a sad thing you can't see.your children !
You ex-JWs really impress me!
Amazing amount of info new to me. Thank you It occurs to me that there may be many evil criminals that are unaware that they are following a god so diligently.
Excellent!!!! The book of Judas makes more and more sense!
Dr. Litwa is a great guest. Would love to see more shows with him 👍
Definetely interesting! You have a fantastic way to explain, Dr Litwa. Thank you for your time!
Amazing episode.
Absolutely have Dr. Litwa on again...I always click on any of his videos. Would love to get his book but can't afford it at this time.
Right on! I read about this stuff a lot. This guest is very interesting. It doesn't take much to see how influential Serapis was to Gnosticism. Jesus was the snake at the garden and became an eagle watching the exile from the garden in the Gnostic books. Those are symbols of Horus.
Great talk... loving David's appearance on the channel
The comments section is pretty funny for this. Half love it, the other half read the title and are leaving a comment in rage without listen or understanding the presentation
Love this wholesome video, keep brining the Dr back!!!
Brilliant!
Fantastic video Dereck! Thoroughly enjoyed this one! I am definitely going to buy this book and can't wait for more videos with Dr. Litwa
This is so fascinating
We need more. Would love to see dr. Litwa again
Love this stuff, very interesting perspectives
This Dr. Ltiwa fellow seems like a fine scholar. I hope to hear more from him on future videos from Mythvision.
I really love the shows with Dr Litwa in them. He seems very knowledgeable and has a serenity about him that is really easy to listen to. Keep up the great work!
I will definitely get a copy of this book
Love this channel Derek!
Great video, very digestible and informative !
As christians, I think we often forget what Jesus and his hand-picked disciples describe as the Spirit of the law vs the law ...(Spirit of the law _vs_ the law)
Jesus fully kept and fought/contended for the "Spirit" of the law, but constantly fought against, exposed and broke the "law".
That is what killed Him on a cross: His obedience in keeping and promoting the "Spirit" of the law while exposing the evil of the "law".
This was so good! I just stumbled upon your channel and had to subscribe because of this interview. I definitely would like to see Dr. Litwa on here again. Now I can't wait to see more of the stuff you've got here. Good work, keep it up!
Luke 11:11 - Jesus says what Father would gives his Son a snake when he asks for fish, to me this is obviously referring to YHWH in Numbers 21:6, I'm always surprised this obvious reference is overlooked by Christians and critics alike.
Interesting !
Yahushua also quoted Enoch many times. I for one know YAHUAH is real , his wisdom is beyond ours .Amein.
Proverbs ch 8 is all about Yahushua with the father creating together. Amein.
Great Presentation. Loved it!
this was fascinating, thank you
Great work! The day we comprehend the creator duality, is the day we will rise…
Great guest as always! 😃 I would like to hear about Dr. Litwa's interpretation of who Sophia was according to these early Christian sects? Merry Christmas and have a great New Year!
Very interesting, I love cracking through history, And I'm coming out of dogmatic Christianity. Seeking what might the actual truth be. While still leaning towards the historical Jesus. Open minded here, thank you enjoyed learning today.
Wish people would stop using the term Anti-semetic as a standalone phrase for anti Jewish. Say 'Ani-Jewish as semetic covers a group of languages. Derek should well be aware of this. Great presentation. I bought the book mentioned in the presentation, which was expensive.
I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in Me should remain in darkness.
I have always known that "God" was a spirit and is the highest in love and goodness. God has no earthly characteristics, like greed, hate, jealousy which is man's way which change with feeling the ultimate touch of God.
My description of G o D differ to your version he's 'self- absorbed, narcisstic, vain-glorious, capricious, megaloman etc.
@@suatustel746 yes, YOUR personal experience of some invisible entity out there. or your own intellectual perception. other people has different and more positive experiences with God
@@tinostmrg9046 l don't have any personal experience, perception, intuition and facts. Ask yourself is life constitutes a luxurious state or consists of drudgery repeatable circles. By the way I'm not pessimistic or delusional entity.....
@@suatustel746 so you're just assuming and guessing. great ! not worth anything
@@tinostmrg9046 nono no! We're faulty products living in faulty universe. Here's my case, ake a walk on a lonely lane at night what does prey your mind immidieatly, darkness, apparition a feral animal or a human waiting to ambush you, it'd be precluded from the onset, your God allowed that so called free will. I spit on it!!!!!
this makes so much sense out of gnosticism, which to me was always so puzzling and foreign.
I would like Derek to ask his guests their thoughts on Herod and Pilot taking the place of the high priest in the Passover and Yom Kippur analogies of the passion narratives.
This dude is just another snake oil sales man ,selling his wares . Nothing new under the sun! YAHUAH knows what's best for us , no one said it would be easy , amein.
@@markdemell8056 So your opinion is "God said it, i believe it, that settles it"?
More Litwa please!
Fascinating! Im buying the book.
I recommend doing the topic of Jesus in India and the life of Saint issa (who is a Buddhist saint) very interesting stuff
That’s why they wouldn’t let anyone say the name. Yahweh of course had a consort who was Asherah. Wonderful show!!!
Thanks for confirming Egypt's acknowledgement of the exodus of Israel even though archeologist and certain historians say there is no record or evidence of an exodus from Egypt ever.Why would Egyptians weave a counter story if it were not so?
Best content on all of TH-cam
Dr Litwa, the only differences in the Egyptian version of the Exodus as you described it are
1) the Egyptians expelled the Hebrews.
2) the Egyptian version recognizes these actions as evil.
In the Hebrew version, Yahweh is also not a good god. He murders all the firstborn males of the Egyptians and causes plagues that would have killed almost all the Egyptians, who are the ones who pay for Yahweh’s evil, even though he raised up Egypt just for that purpose.
Thanks for the informative interview. 👍
I was always taught that Satan is the "god of this world" but Satan was never supposed to be a god so I think they say, "ruler of this world" as opposed to the creator or god, he is King of the World because Adam sinned and the world was given to Satan to do mischief in. As an atheist, I don't believe any of this nonsense anymore and figuring out what ancient people actually believed when they had a completely different system of thought and took drugs and fasted for visions and lied to each other is impossible.
Summation: There were no gods, no spirits, no angels, not even "the force" involved in human history. There were men following the inclinations of men and pretending they had "god on their side" for obvious human reasons, the leaders often claimed to be gods and acted like it to enhance their power and used the rudimentary science they sponsored to do "miracles". History and fiction always include gods because it sells and because the gods were part of history just not a real part.
laughable...
you're no different than a toad living under a basket. you obviously do NOT know other parts of reality in this planet that goes against your 3D world
You can read the story of the creator god in Gnostic Bible-- Edited by Willis Barnstone and Marvin Meyer. Shambhala, Boston& London 2009.
Book of Enoch is a must!
As a person born blind I'd love to see a conversation about what it means to be born blind in the 21st century, and the answers you come up with
You can heal yourself naturally, with exercise and massage, read about Meir Schneider, born blind, healed himself, and teaching others now. th-cam.com/users/SchoolForSelfHealingSanFrancisco
@@healingrays3229 Dear sir or madame, when did I express interest in being healed of my blindness? There are better things to do than jump to conclusions.
We have a right to dislike any -ism. Judaism, Catholicism, socialism, whatever.
Don't forget capitalism, mate...
@@tenmanX and especially Marxism and Socialism because their rooted in Satanism
Set (Egyptological: Sutekh - or Greek: Seth) is a god of storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethianism). It's unclear whether there is any connection of any kind between the Egyptian "Set" and the Hebrew "Seth," brother of Cain & Abel, and the third son of Adam & Eve, or if this purely a coincidence.
I wish his books weren’t so expensive
If you're anti-antisemitic please mention being anti-antigentilic too. Just saying, because this road goes two ways.
So your saying both religions aren't worth the paper there written on.
@@johnmcfarland1910 I'm saying it's strange so many atheists I've known and found tend to vouch for Jews (ethnically I'm one) and not be against the supremacistic views that religious Jews almost always have. Yes even reformed Jews.
@@yqafree thank you
@@johnmcfarland1910 No problem.
According to Epiphanius (c. 375), Sethians were in his time found only in Egypt and Palestine. Philaster (4th c, CE) places the Ophites, Cainites, and Sethians as pre-Christian Jewish sects. Sethians identified Seth with Christ (Second Logos of the Great Seth), (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethianism)
fascinating talk. I'd be wild if Christianity was by Egyptian Set-defenders instead of Jewish priests
In the O.T., King Solomon rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. Jesus was following that type. So questions about the donkey representing Set would have to extend back to that time.
merry Solstice day every one
Jesus is Lord... of the Rings....and only a true shield maiden of Rohan could ever hope to defeat him.
So sayeth the book of Tolkien.
How can I order the book I want to read it
Always thought Set was an Aardvark, lol
Yes! The spirit of God is riding inside of this stubborn animal who normally is just that, a stubborn animal refusing to acknowledge the non physical reality. When all the first born were killed, this was there exile. Enslaved in the flesh. So he takes control of his animal and rides it to be sacrificed ultimately freeing him from the physical. Because consciously he was freed and wasn't forced to reincarnate. Something like that.
The Cathar believed that the creator of this world was evil.
Re the Jesus on a donkey theme I would note that it first appears in gMark, and Mark the evangelist is connected with Alexandria. He supposedly was bishop of the church of Alexandria. Of course we don't actually know who wrote the "gospel of Mark", so it might not have been this Mark at all.
It's also interesting that according to the Egyptians the Semitic Hyksos people worshipped Seth.
The Hyksos were Canaanites and worshipped their own gods, they adapted some Egyptian deities when taking over the delta from the Egyptians.
@@elliottprats1910 yes, it was the Egyptian perception that they worshipped Seth, but that was probably their translation of the Canaanite god Baal.
Will there be paperback and Kindle versions of the book soon?
This is the video I've been waiting for! Does this seem like evidence for the Hyksos connection who also identified with the Set deity
Race isn't the same thing as religion, the whole "anti-Semitic" thing is kinda bullshit because of the mixing of the two into one thing. It seems more than slightly intellectually dishonest in the modern times to use that term as though someone is "racist" when they are against a religion a race of people. You shouldn't have to defend yourself constantly when you criticize a religion because you will for some reason get called racist when they aren't the same things. As for the race part, you can be a Jew and not be the stereotypical "Jew" racially. Semitic isn't a race to start, it isn't a religion either, its a language group.
I mean yes, but also the Elfs are angry and hate anyone who talks about them.
@@newvocabulary "Elfs"? What are you talking about?
I can't help but feel like 'elf' is a dog whistle for jew. I don't like Judaism as a religion yes but still though don't be an asshole to Jews as people unless they do bad things plz.
@@karlazeen It's a meme. He means that most rich people are Zionists. And if you criticize them, even if you don't hate them blindly, you are labeled an anti-Semite.
Meaning, anti-Semite, usually just means "stop saying things I don't like".
@@karlazeen Agreed, no reason to demonize an entire race of believer's unless being a judgemental dipshit is taught as part of your religion.
Wait! What? Seems my cognitive dissonance is finally subsiding...
The first problem is existence. The second problem is procreation.
So you're the guys who pick Neutral and Chaos routes in SMT 🤣
This is fantastic. I’ve always seen Christian god to be more akin to Set.
The Father but not the Son
I've also read that the Hyksos worshiped Set, the plot thickens.
You should definitely have him back on.
It seems that YHVH represents the god of the physical universe and the father christ refers to is the god of the spiritual universe. The imagery of christ riding the donkey into jerusalem depicting christ being in control over this god of the physical universe. The idea of YHVH being the demiurge or creator of the physical and representative of that which binds us to the physical such as the ego and lower emotions are seen in his describing himself as "jealous" and being a vengeful , wrathful and hatefilled god. In the vedantic hindu system there are many lower gods and devas that are imperfect yet higher up in the system of being than mankind. They also have belief in the spiritual universe which is not tainted by the cycle of being that exists in the physical universe. It seems that it would be difficult to say that YHVH is perfect and it seems to be in many ways the same character that's referred to as the opposer /satan in other scriptures. It's pretty confusing though because so many cultures have worshiped the imperfect gods of the physical universe and sometimes the one of the spiritual universe.
Very interesting.
For Christianity to be true then I believe that the early church cut the gospel of Judas out of fear of blasphemy and not because it wasn’t true.
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BTW, good work!
I love the channel but crack up every time you go “WEEEE AREEEE MYTHVISSIOON” lol. Like it’s all serious then there’s that.
A painter adds something to a painting that he likes, but upon stepping back, it doesn't fit. So he works on it and tries to get it to fit, but it won't. Sadly wiping it out of the painting is an "unconscionable act?" Do you know how the prophets linked world events to the stars? Do you have any idea where we are now in the story? For centuries epic events have been depicted in the stars and described beforehand. You snooze, you lose. Edit: difference being: we CHOOSE not to fit
Excellent show! Yes, definitely more with this very knowledgeable doctor!
I should remind you, though, that even in the Bible there is no ONE “devil” or “satan.” There are various adversaries, including YHVH himself.
Regarding the temptations of Christ, the god who was speaking obviously thought he owned the kingdoms of Israel, which was the “world” in view here. Who was that God? Based upon this video, was it YHVH? Just a thought.
I was raised on the Bible it’s always confused me god seemed evil to me even as a kid. His is just live as long as your life doesn’t harm others
All religions from paganism to Judism, Christianity, Musslims and other's that have broken off from them. Are all based on STORIES. Use any dictionary and look up the basic meaning of the word STORY.
Using just one of the many stories I was taught in my youth. The story of Santa Claus has become so convoluted, when comparing the original to the present version of the story and it's only been a hundred or two years. It's no wonder why there are so many versons, sect, factions of religions today because like any story. They become so convoluted, there no where near their origanal version. One can use the ole' FISH STORY as example. The fish always gets larger every time the story is told.
To be fair, there were MANY strains of the Christian religion in the first few centuries ad.
Paul in Romans 13:1-2 insisted that "the powers that be are invested of God" and that whoever resists that power will be damned. Yet in Matthew 4:8-11, Satan is the one who tempts Jesus with all the world's kingdoms and says he will give all of them to Jesus if he will worship him. So from that, how could one logically conclude anything else but that Satan is the god in power over the world, and that YHWH either wants it that way or is himself Satan?
Literacy in the times of these works was minimal . For the average person the idea that God cursed someone nailed to a tree etc. Would have been a problem would not have occured because there would have been no awareness. Much like churches today there is only a superficial view, some short random texts, out of context to support growing church membership, some magical rituals to make you special and so on. The massive size of a church building spoke more to the average person than the details of the Trinity or conflicts in texts.
There may be traces of Egyptian theology in Valentinism, including Horos, "a figure entirely peculiar to Valentinian Gnosticism is that of Horos... The name is perhaps an echo of the Egyptian Horus.[14][21] ...he becomes a kind of world-creative power, who in this capacity helps to construct an ordered world out of Sophia and her passions." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinianism#Demiurge)
Get this Litwa on again asap
"My god, my god, why have you forsaken me?"
So there's the idea that YHWH is either the same as Jesus' Father and the idea that he is other than the god Jesus spoke about. Has anyone considered that Jesus was simply duped and that he was too late to realize it?
nope. Yeshua intentionally came to disarm the rulers/powers (whose chief was Yaldabaoth) who ruled over the realm of matter, through his death and resurrection.
The early Christian were
Thrown in to the Lions den
butchered,driven away from home land because of their faith in Jesus
What if there were Muslims thrown in lions dens. Butchered and driven away from home land.
Humankind in the beginning chose to reject God’s warning about not eating the fruit causing us to become imperfect in thought and causing us to put our own desires above God. In the end we must seek a new heart and a right attitude to reject our ego. Psalms 51:10. Man later rejected the true God’s rulership over them by wanting a king. Yes, satan now rules this world with his princes till the rightful leadership comes under The Most High. We live under corrupt religion and government until Jesus bringing in his Father’s kingdom.
We must realize that the true Most High God of Love who created all is not Yahweh, a god of war and mischief. We don’t even know the Creators name. We address Him as Father or Abba, a more intimate one. The Most High’s words and teachings were suppressed for the most part and Yahweh was elevated to His position and this Yahweh’s laws and desires were attributed to his Creator. The Most High sent true prophets to the wayward Israelites and I feel Yahweh had his also. It’s a mixed up mess to confuse the reader of the bible. Yahweh was kept in the bible to justify war and the law given by evil angels, thereby keeping us from the freedom of the children of The Most High.
The evil creator sends the devil down to get people to worship him with false religions then scapegoats anyone who questions his religions as the devil or devils
Watch the smurfs with a keen eye. Especially the new one. Its basically a movie depicting this narrative.
Thnxs
I like that one 🔥🔥
Nobody does a purge like a demiurge
Cool.
Did riding a donkey represent willfully stepping into the prophecies of that god to intersect the intended "messiah" role and overturn that god's rule. He rode into town ON their god - then had his way with that evil god's plan. He did call him out after all.
Paul says that the law was given by angels, not God. And that angels are sometimes evil. He also says that you "were fooled by the God of this world".
This all points to Paul being some sort of Gnostic and not really a Jew. Strange that David Litwa still considers him Jewish.
"Not really a Jew" like "not a true Scotsman" is awkward in the extreme for a point in time when everything religious was in flux, separating and combining and inventing. It would be very difficult, likely impossible, to draw a sharp line between what was and what was not Jewish; Judaism had many sects and offshoots each blending into others (much like Christianity now), and both worked to wipe out the existence and evidence of existence of those in-between beliefs and other "heretical" beliefs. Paul was Roman and Jew with all the contaminants to each of his time.
@@kathryngeeslin9509 I know. But if I were a to make distinctions, I would broadly paint him as a Gnostic. As his views stray too far for me to really label him a Jew.
I mean, once you slip Christ as another God entirely, what really is there binding you to the Torah? Well, according to Paul himself, not much.
@@johnnonamegibbon3580 True enough. But there was a lot of overlap at the time.
@@johnnonamegibbon3580 Given that historians call you a Jew whether you worship the Canaanite gods Asherah, Baal, El, and others, or at the other extreme that you think El and Yahweh are different names for a supreme creator of the solar system and believe Asherah and Baal are either evil spirits or don't exist at all, then why wouldn't they also call someone a Jew whother they worship that creator of the solar system or believe he is an emanation of the higher being they worship instead? Given that the differences between 900 BC Judaism and 1st century AD Judaism are enormous yet we lump them together under the banner of Judaism, why not also lump the Gnostics in with the solar system creator worshippers in the first century? It seems like an arbitrary line to draw.
@@compulsiverambler1352 To me, and this is arbitrary, but Gnosticism is a clear departure from Judaism. My order is Judaism(all the cults of Israel), Gnosticism (that weird quasi platonic Alexandrian cult with ties to the Osiris/Seth myth, and lastly Christianity. Anyone who morphs Gnosticism into a real world Christ spirit.
What isn't interpolated into the Epistles is clearly of some weird Gnostic Alexandrian.. thing.