Hello folks, no anecdote this time. As you might remember from last Those Great Locomotives, the following three episodes would be Micro episodes. But, I also said this first of the trio would be about the English Electric Type 3, or Class 37. GG1s aren't Class 37s. I found myself short of literature, so until I get my hands on some BR diesel material, the EE Type 3 episode will be postponed. Similarly, the Clayton episode will also be put on hold, but instead I'll cover the LMS 10000 series diesels. The N15X video will remain, however!
Minor nitpick, but Conrail didn’t own any GG-1s in 1971, as it didn’t begin operation until the Railroad Revitalization and Regulatory Reform act of 1976. The AEM-7s also did not replace the GG-1. That was a modified freight locomotive also made by GE, the E60CH. The E60CH in contrast with the reliable GG-1 was rife with mechanical issues. The AEM-7, bases on the Swedish Rc-4 was only called in because the E60CH failed to serve as a good replacement for the GG-1. However this story of newer locomotives not being good enough to replace mechanically outdated equipment was unfortunately too common in the early days of Amtrak. They failed to find a suitable replacement for their E and F units twice before eventually turning towards the iconic F40PH. A locomotive with a reputation that might even surpass the GG-1.
Nice video! I just got an Amtrak GG1. It's a great loco. I wish these locos saw more liveries. I think they would look cool in the New Haven RR paint scheme, Milwaukee road, or any other US railroad with electrified lines.
I was fascinated with these when i was a kid i wanted to operate one so bad,years later i was able to see one in a museum what a thrill for an old fart
It’s a shame that they didn’t build more of these. The only thing that is needed to make them up-to-date is to remove the steam generator, install a HEP generator and extend the cab.
@@eddierools but I ment keeping the same length and general shame of the firing butike the EMD F series of diesels but just electric. I think in short what I want to say is not to have a 2 cabins
@@FQP-7024 Well I see what you're saying, but having two cabins made it far more convenient for the crews, as they wouldn't have to turn the GG1's around.
@@eddierools yes that is the big plus of the design but what I wanted is a long distance super heavy train, so it dosent have to turn it simply pulls the heaviest trains for the same amount of power
The cabs really didn't have any connection to how much power the locomotive could have. As noted in the video these locomotives could out pull three or four diesels. One thing not mentioned is that for short bursts of time these locomotives could get up to 9000 horsepower. They could pull a very long train for as long as there was wire above them.
'The Great Book Of Trains' by Brian Hollingsworth & Arthur Cook en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Road_class_EP-3 www.therailwayhub.co.uk/10595/from-the-archive-locomotive-icons-an-american-classic-gg-1/ I have three sources that say otherwise.
He's talking about the New Haven EP3 which was built in the 30s by GE. The Milwaukee road EP3 was a different locomotive all together with a different wheel arrangement. While trying to look up the New Haven EP3 there really isn't much on the internet about them other than they were used to design the GG1.
Hello folks, no anecdote this time. As you might remember from last Those Great Locomotives, the following three episodes would be Micro episodes. But, I also said this first of the trio would be about the English Electric Type 3, or Class 37.
GG1s aren't Class 37s. I found myself short of literature, so until I get my hands on some BR diesel material, the EE Type 3 episode will be postponed. Similarly, the Clayton episode will also be put on hold, but instead I'll cover the LMS 10000 series diesels. The N15X video will remain, however!
GG1's are the world's best electric locomotive, none are as cool-looking, reliable, or iconic.
the crocodile would disagree with you
@@yeoldeseawitch It does look cool somewhat, somewhat well known, but it's not streamlined, as iconic, and it isn't as cool-looking or fast.
*Laughs in JNR EF66*
:) those electric engines were so beautiful.
I’ve actually been in 4935, its as cramped as a mini submarine
Minor nitpick, but Conrail didn’t own any GG-1s in 1971, as it didn’t begin operation until the Railroad Revitalization and Regulatory Reform act of 1976. The AEM-7s also did not replace the GG-1. That was a modified freight locomotive also made by GE, the E60CH. The E60CH in contrast with the reliable GG-1 was rife with mechanical issues. The AEM-7, bases on the Swedish Rc-4 was only called in because the E60CH failed to serve as a good replacement for the GG-1. However this story of newer locomotives not being good enough to replace mechanically outdated equipment was unfortunately too common in the early days of Amtrak. They failed to find a suitable replacement for their E and F units twice before eventually turning towards the iconic F40PH. A locomotive with a reputation that might even surpass the GG-1.
Nice video! I just got an Amtrak GG1. It's a great loco. I wish these locos saw more liveries. I think they would look cool in the New Haven RR paint scheme, Milwaukee road, or any other US railroad with electrified lines.
I think they would look good in C&O blue, but of course Conrail blue is nice too, and so is pinstriped forest green
I was fascinated with these when i was a kid i wanted to operate one so bad,years later i was able to see one in a museum what a thrill for an old fart
It’s a shame that they didn’t build more of these. The only thing that is needed to make them up-to-date is to remove the steam generator, install a HEP generator and extend the cab.
And, like, no asbestos. That's also kind of a big issue.
Uh no, it’s not anywhere near that simple
Love the PRR man. Thanks
I've actually seen GG1 4903 a few times in person
While I'm not into electrical engines I prefer steamed or even diesel the GG 1 do look nice
Will you do "Those great locomotives" for the NYC Hudsons in the future?
Ab-so-likely.
Nice video
I never thought you’d do an American engine
Fascinating engine I must say, I love its design, but it's a shame it didn't have a model with only one cab design for more power
Funny you say that, there was a GG1 that actually got cut in half and was used for yard work XD
@@eddierools but I ment keeping the same length and general shame of the firing butike the EMD F series of diesels but just electric. I think in short what I want to say is not to have a 2 cabins
@@FQP-7024 Well I see what you're saying, but having two cabins made it far more convenient for the crews, as they wouldn't have to turn the GG1's around.
@@eddierools yes that is the big plus of the design but what I wanted is a long distance super heavy train, so it dosent have to turn it simply pulls the heaviest trains for the same amount of power
The cabs really didn't have any connection to how much power the locomotive could have. As noted in the video these locomotives could out pull three or four diesels. One thing not mentioned is that for short bursts of time these locomotives could get up to 9000 horsepower. They could pull a very long train for as long as there was wire above them.
Baldwin did not build the EP's they were made by general electric and they were built in the 50's
'The Great Book Of Trains' by Brian Hollingsworth & Arthur Cook
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Road_class_EP-3
www.therailwayhub.co.uk/10595/from-the-archive-locomotive-icons-an-american-classic-gg-1/
I have three sources that say otherwise.
He's talking about the New Haven EP3 which was built in the 30s by GE. The Milwaukee road EP3 was a different locomotive all together with a different wheel arrangement. While trying to look up the New Haven EP3 there really isn't much on the internet about them other than they were used to design the GG1.
@@FlyingScott I would like to apologize as I am blind and can't read
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