I don't believe their abuse defense. I still think/always thought it was a ruse for sympathy. I think they murdered their parents for money like so many other cases
believed in what way? They admitted to murdering their parents.....the CLAIM that it was due to abuse is nonsense......if you are actively being attacked, you have self defense, BUT, as soon as the attacker stops, the justification for self defense has ended....When the parents were shot in the back while watching TV, there is no way to argue that they were assaulting the kids in a way just justified any lethal forms of self defense.....the reality is, IF there was abuse, it had NOTHING to do with the murder.....
This is when money works against them. They were portrayed as greedy children. They should be freed. We now are more aware of sexual and mental abuse and take that into consideration than before. The fact they wanted this trial closed to look good for political reasons is huge.
No it doesn't people lie, where is the evidence....24: people know, how many called police, how many stopped the abuse, how many testified on any trial
@@Ailenna r u throwing shade or are you a child abuser...lets say neither. People don't get involved where $ is because it can end your life ...that's some thing to slap you in the face with.see there that hurts and rather you've been in that circumstance ever or not. God only knows, but it would be a farce to say you know how you'd be ...im gonna go out on a limb here..people are both liars thieves cheaters even if its themselves they do it to. We all fall short. But in the face of abuse..thou shall not murder is questionable (I'd wonder if I'd be taken that into account right before I'm punched in the face for the 100th time..can't say)and leave the rest in the hands of the only one capable and able to do the right thing That's an audience of one...GOD!
@@chinadoll534were you watching the trial? Some of the family members did in testify! This is why there were mistrials BEFORE the third trial where they THREW OUT the abuse evidence and testimony. This is close to what occurred last night with an innocent man being executed due to the injustice of the American legal system.
They need to change the laws on emotional and mental abuse towards kids and people. There needs to be more resources for this . Not saying killing anyone is right .. but if they had the support they needed to get away from their parents, they might have never killed anyone .
@rxy1486 If the whole family knew, then the whole family is an accessory to the crime. Anonymous tips to the police existed during the 80s. "We tip" crime report holiness.
So, these two boys were sexually assaulted by their father at a young age, facing verbal, physical, and mental abuse from both parents. It’s no surprise they ended up bratty and acting out the way they did, that’s often what happens to kids who go through that kind of trauma. Some of the comments seem to overlook how serious this is. The Bible even says not to harm a child or provoke them to anger, yet that’s exactly what these parents did. Also, we shouldn’t ignore that many people in these elite circles are involved in terrible things. Who knows what else their father might have been involved in? It’s terrifying to think about, and I hope there wasn’t any trafficking or drugging going on with them as children. These boys needed mental health help, not to be thrown in prison. Yes, they clearly have serious issues, but their parents' actions played a big role in their mental state. Some people keep saying they could have just "moved out," but they don’t realize these were young, wealthy kids (18-21, just out of high school) who had their lives controlled by their father who buck broke them at age six. An actual thing that masters use to do to their male slaves in order to assert dominance and break their willful spirit. Erik’s went on until he was age 18. Their situation wasn’t normal, so it’s unfair to judge them like they were thinking rationally. Nothing about these men’s family was normal. They’re sick, and I mean that in the most literal way possible. So why are some of y’all trying to apply reasonable logic to these men like they were right in the head. I swear some of y’all don’t think 🤦🏽♀️
You’re absolutely right. The sexual, physical and emotional abuse of children NEVER leads to anything good. Almost every imprisoned human being in the US has suffered some kind of abuse as a child. It’s heart wrenching.
@@BozeDoesGodsWork you had a lot to say even brought the Bible into it. Easy to see you believe them. Simple question, what if they're indeed lying? They have lied from the very beginning after all. Let's say they're telling the truth. Does abuse of any kind justify premeditated murder?
I’m 69 years old and have been on this earth in the midst of a lot of history in the LA area. Honestly the more I learn about this case the more I believe they were abused. To kill their father…and mother…..not the best solution. How does one defend oneself when the very place in which they grew up turns a blind eye to and concerning them? Something in that home was perverse,it seems.
@@northprime_unlimitedno 😂 not very simple when the people who are supposed to protect you from that type of evil are the very people who are inflicting that pain on you 😂
Had they come right out and said that, maybe. They NEVER mentioned sexual abuse until they got that nut job lawyer (girl w/the blonde curly hair, forgot her name), she was famous already for using the sexual abuse card. Also they way they killed their parents, it was slow and painful, straight up torture. Then, they go out on a spending spree and party every night until they were arrested. They weren't abused. Cold blooded psycho paths
The second trial was a sham because they weren't even allowed to bring up the molestation. That right there proves it wasn't a fair trial. As a survivor of sexual abuse as a child, if this proof comes out then these brothers should be released.
it isn't relevant.....self defense is ONLY for when someone is ACTIVELY being attacked.....if someone punches you, and continues to punch you, you have a right to "self-defense"....if someone punches you and then walks away, there is ZERO justification for self-defense under the law.....
@@SRSOSChannel2I mean they got like 24 family members that have came forward to do another trial and I’m sure there are family members that can confirm but were to scared to back then because back in the 80s 90s people think yourrr dumbbb assf if you think a man or boy could be SA but now a days we see celebrities and rich people , poor people and government officials all being charged an prosecuted for SA an I hope they get a fair trial cuz in my opinion from what I’ve experienced with the laws and courts your “guilty until proven innocent “ !!! Straight up lol you gotta show your innocent until then you can sit in cell smh
@@SRSOSChannel2 ok report me ? idc man its youtube dude jezzzz get a life and yeah they screwed them on the 2nd trial they could do another one easy give them a chance at least !
@@kayvillarosa7683yeah i know right ! Like sitting in a cell helps anyone who has suffered SA or Abuse at all or drug problems they need help not jail smh I hope they get another fair trial and can use anything they want as long as it’s real !
@@MomMom4Cubsyou don’t ever heal it just gets less painful every so often an then it hits you again you don’t ever forget I’ll tell you that right now !
Free them, they've been in the worst prison living with their parents in the past. That type of abuse would have eventually killed them if they hadn't acted. The justice system failed them back then and continues to.
24 disgusting family members that were too afraid to call the police for those two boys!!! Let them be free they have served way too much time!! God u gave them those parents now give them their freedom back!!
Family members are lying. 🤥 why didn’t they step in and help. Those two boys wanted their parents money. And the boys didn’t like the fact that their father were strict
@@chinadoll534Because in the 80s and 90s society was more conservative and lacking when it came to issues like mental health or abuse. The family members couldn’t do nothing because either they relied on the father or didn’t want to publicly denounce the parents especially when people still looked down upon Cuban Americans. Not exactly the time to be outspoken about other peoples business or theirs.
@@veecee8842 Regardless of what excuse you want to use to defend murders. Does any excuse justify premeditated murder? They were old enough to move out. The brothers said, they supposedly killed their mother because she knew and did nothing. 24 other family members knew and did nothing supposedly, but the brothers stopped at the parents. They are lying trying to get sympathy and bleeding hearts to support them. The family is being coached on what to say. So many kids are abused every which way on the regular but don't go on to commit murder never mind premeditated murder. So many people are eager to play the fool.
@@chinadoll534couldn’t agree more with you! The fact people want these sick murderers back on the street is insane ! They were already convicted and haven’t been let out for a reason for over 30+ years and these random people just believe their bs story of sexual abuse and think they know better than the court.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
A sad accusation on the family. Several of them did try, but were met by the fierce power of Jose. They suffered too. Much comes out in the court case, helping us get an understanding of how members of the family tried to help the brothers. But one thing that stands out - adults found Jose to be formidable,we can see how impossible it was for the brothers to deal with Jose.
Perché negli anni 80 le molestie sulle donne venivano derise .... figurati le molestie sugli uomini non venivano credute.....negli anni 80 dovevi essere "uomo " adesso le persone capiscono di più cosa vuol dire essere molestati sessualmente...in Romania li avrebbero dato un premio 😂 20 anni erano fuori e avevano anche i complimenti per aver ucciso due molestatori
I think they need to have a lesser sentence. Years of sexual abuse by both parents. There's the letter the younger brother wrote to his cousin saying how he was scared his dad would try to come in his room at night. And then there's the Menudo singer, Roy Rossello's confession, saying he was raped and sexually abused repeatedly after his rape by their father, Jose Menendez. And still, no one thought to keep investigating. I don't agree with murder but the justice system once again failed. This is just tragic. I'm sorry the brothers experienced disgusting, evil, perverted behavior by the people who were supposed to truly protect and love them in a different way.
I wish more individuals could understand sexual abuse and survivorship... your comment was perceived as open hearted.. as i am a sexual assault survivor........
Molesting,Raping and Abusing your OWN children for 21 years would drive anyone crazy. Plus both parents were addicts. That alone affects a kid's mental health tremendously. Watching their story on Netflix is so sad. They paid for their crimes before they ever committed. Their parents were evil.
The WHOLE PROSECUTION case was messed in so many directions convicting two brothers of greed and cold murder DISMISSING the other factors of proven SA. Wanted to slap every one of those prosecutors and journalists who spoke hate against them declaring "deserving" of a death sentence AGAIN dismissing the sexual abuse - for victims of such. Dismissed or swept under the rug. SHAME ON THEM
It was motivated by greed but by the District Attorney office Gil Garcetti. Political power is an animal of itself. Free these boys the evidence is very powerful. I follow this story. The music industry freak offs drugs and sex trafficking is real. These Brazilian trips are fishy. Boy bands The Melendez Brothers are survivals of many facets of injustices.
Now that menudo story ! Might be what sets them free ! The justice system is broken and has been for many years ! I’ve been thrown in jail and had cases dismissed at trail because they knew it was a false arrest ! So to the people that never go out and never get in trouble basically grandma 👵 syndrome humans I call it . Think that everyone in jail is guilty not true ! There has to be at least a 5% of innocent people in federal custody right now ! 💯
It’s so hard because, by law, it was premeditated ENOUGH. That being said, they’re not heartless, they had a serious motive to not put up with the abuse they suffered for their entire lives up to that point. The sexual abuse can’t be “proven”, but signs are most definitely there. I’d at this point, it being almost 40 years since the incident, we should look at their behavior since what happened, and look into letting them live out their last years as free men.
Google: How Did the Menendez Brothers Get Caught? Why Erik's Private Therapy Confession Led to Their Arrest and Conviction from People Magazine. It's all in there. The lies. The lavish spending after they murdered them. And not a word about sexual abuse. They were just both tired of their dad bossing them around. They were petty thieves and burglars too. In trouble with juvenile authorities lots. And their parents spent a lot of money on therapists to try to help them. Doesn't seem to fit the profile of how abusive parents act.
Everyone from the police to the media to SNL made fun of these boys. They were judged by how they were acting after the murders, but if you had been abused and controlled for years, how would you act once free?
The way Eric describes his father’s sexual abuse of him made me so sick to my stomach, and that wasn’t acting. I can’t help but sympathize. I’m not saying he should have killed his parents, but his dad had tortured them so rough psychologically that they probably felt they couldn’t tell anyone and nobody would believe them given his dad’s wealth and status. They possibly felt it was their only way to free themselves of their constant abuse. And the DA getting the sexual abuse thrown out of the second trial? That’s like straight up cheating, of course they were screwed! Give them their freedom already!
Completely. The horrific details in their testimony, the raw emotion that is extremely difficult to fake like that. I always believed they were telling the truth
Good ! The Justice system needs to do their part , because they clearly failed these kids at the time.. just bc someone grows up in a rich neighborhood doesn’t mean things don’t happen behind closed doors !
The reason they arent free is because back then, men being victims of abuse "wasn't a thing" according to the jury and most likely the judge as well. There was definately another case of failed justice, not saying that murdering their parents was the best solution to get out of their situation, but its been 35 years. Thats more years than they've been abused by their "parents". I really hope that they get a retrial, especially with this new evidence, They deserve freedom for the first time in their lives.
One of the Menudo members said that Jose Menéndez raped him. If you ever doubted these brother's then think about that for a moment, the fact that someone unrelated to the brother's was raped by their Father, says a lot, and it is highly likely that the brothers claims about being abused were true.
@@_.Amaraxhi so two wrongs make a right. Got it. By the brothers own words they killed their mother because she knew and did nothing. At least 24 other family members knew and did nothing. By your logic the brothers can kill 24 other family members and they're still victims. Apparently being abused is a license to kill, and a get out of jail free card in your world. Thankfully that's not how the real world works.
Exactly. The people responding to your comment defending that sick psychopath Jose M and his abusing complicit wife-would you want your children near Jose and Kitty M for even 5 minutes? They were SICK. I for one am not sorry they are dead. Jose would have continued to rape Erik and most likely other victims
The system is not designed to find the truth. It’s designed to show the public that they did. Prosecutors need the outstanding life style regardless innocence. Many real victims become victimizers.
They’ve already been in prison once, with living with their sick parents. Then they kill their parents and you put them in prison again. You and half a million people know these two men did not get the help they needed in prison. They did their time twice. Let them out and stop with the idiotic trials. It’s unfortunate the letter was found after one relative died, this could have helped the men years ago. Then again it’s just something else that wouldn’t be brought up in trial.
If this case was tried today, it would have been a totally different outcome. Plus the fact in the third trial they weren't even allowed to talk about the Raping of the poor babies (by their own parents??!!!), is a misjustice in itself!! Our whole prison system, mixed with mental health issues is an atrocity!! They needed mental help and to not be locked up!!! What a waste of human life!! They were let down by the system, and abandoned in their shame!!! This is the reason young boys don't want to talk about sexual abuse! I am actually getting quite angry even typing this!! Erik and Lyle needed to be freed a long time ago. They can actually keep doing more good in this world outside of prison, just like they are doing now from inside those concrete walls.
I don’t know why this is even up for debate. There is no excuse to kill someone, and i am saying this as a survivor of sexual assault myself. Many people go through horrible things and trauma everyday. That’s not fair and it must’ve been horrible for them. But they are not the only ones and most survivors don’t turn into killers. No, just no. There is no excuse, never. Making exceptions for murderers will take us to a horrible place.
@@lacqueredlola agreed. These people that support them, think two wrongs make a right. Sorry for whatever you endured. Money was the motivation for killing their parents, it's sickening their trying use abuse as a get out jail free card.
lol retail therapy is normal but for one or two things. Presidential suite at the bel air since they didn’t want to sleep where their parents brains were blown out. Explain that
It is time to sit and look at EVERYTHING the right way. It has been way too long for these men to be locked away and endure even more psychological distress. Those men deserve to be heard not judged.
you shoot to death your parents, two people... two people who are not here to defend themselves and the question is, where these two killers misjudged? this worlds sick.
‼‼KTLA apparently interviewed Lyle in 1989 shortly after the murders before he was implicated. I think its time to rerelease that footage again ‼thumbs to get this to the top so they see it
The brothers were 18 & 21 at the time if the killings were not financially motivated why didn't they move out? They could have just gotten away from their parents. They went on ridiculous spending spree after the murders instead but money wasn't the motive? Abuse justifies murder? Kids are abused worse than those brothers every day unfortunately and most of them don't resort to murder. They're not victims, they're murders playing the victims.
It's so easy for someone to say they don't believe that this happened to the boys until it happens to them. They told their mother, but she didn't believe them. If the was alive today, I would like to say, shame on you for not believing your son's. You should never tell your child that you don't believe something so serious. Investigate the matter. It's time to set the brothers free. 😢
Or they didn't know anything b/c none of what the boys are claiming actually occured. Maybe THAT'S why the family "didn't say anything." No one knows but the people making the accusation.
That’s what I said it’s not like they were 10 years old. One was 18 the other 21. They could have both gotten regular jobs then start saving their money secretly for an apartment. They could have went half on a down payment and half the rent become roommates to save on cost. As far as college they could have taken out financial aid and stop looking to dad to pay tuition. They could have transfer to a much cheaper state college/university if they couldn’t afford the Ivy League tuition even with financial aide. The way an abuser keeps you stuck is by having you depend on them. If you start becoming independent and don’t need their resources anymore you take away a lot of their power that they had over you and over your life. They are forever stuck in 1989 because the decisions they made.
Those boys or now men were treated unfairly, omg OJ was freed ..and the menedez brothers paid the price ...I am so disappointed in our justice system ..Let them out yesterday
They did it. The evidence shows that. They were brutal and cold blood killers of their parents. 911 call. "Someone killed my parents!" Not "I killed my parents for emotionally and sexually abusing me." Plus, the brothers tried to blame it on guess who exactly? Do you remember? I do. Wise up.
I don't believe their abuse defense. I still think/always thought it was a ruse for sympathy. I think they murdered their parents for money like so many other cases
@@leslieduenas2692if they were kids when they murdered the parents maybe I could understand. a lot of people grow up with abusive and overbearing parents and don't murder them. setting some very dangerous precedents trying to justify pre meditated murders by the Gypsy's and Menendez brothers of the world. soon we will hear how abusive Carly Gregg's mother was and what an injustice her sentence is. spare me. 🙄
Abuse is not a justification for murder. It’s not man slaughter. The brothers were not in immediate danger. They drove to San Diego to purchase the shotguns. Their parents were sitting on the couch, watching TV, eating ice cream. And all these family members who support the brothers, they didn’t do anything for them. And they knew for YEARS. They didn’t go to the police, CPS, etc. They kept it a secret. They enabled the abuse. Why didn’t the brothers go after them? That’s a logical conclusion one could draw. Most people who are abused don’t go on to kill their abusers. So why does being abused make it ok to murder your parents? If that were the case, a lot of people could kill their parents and claim abuse. The brothers are where they belong. In prison for life.
They were unjustly sentenced! They endured a horrific life because of their father and their mother, knowing what was happening, stood by. Imagine being constantly R’ed by your father! They should have received a sentence for the unaliving… but also received intense therapy at a different facility besides a prison! FREE THESE BROTHERS! THEY ARE VICTIMS!
They killed their parents that’s it, people let the system alone. Those guys should continue their lives with their dirty bloody hands and people should not feel sorry for them
The father isn't here to defend himself. So of course they're the victims of abuse. Does being abused give you a license to kill? They had other motives.
i guess no one believed them, because of how good their acting were back then. Made it look and sound like someone elses did the crime. Also smirked whilst on the first trial and all of a sudden changed stories.
I endured mental and physical abuse and gaslighting as I was growing up from my narcissistic father, but I never once considered harming him, let alone killing him.
@@OptimusOne these people who support them are of the mind two wrongs make a right. People aren't responsible for their actions anymore apparently, accountability be damned.
@elizabird6516 so because they endured abuse they're justified for murder? Is that the world you want to live in? Most murders endured abuse in their childhood, it's a shared commonality between them. This will spiral out of control in a world already full of chaos. Next people will sympathize with pedos & rapists.
@@elizabird6516 so because they endured abuse they're justified for murder? Is that the world you want to live in? Most murders endured abuse in their childhood, it's a shared commonality between them. This will spiral out of control in a world already full of chaos. Next people will sympathize with Pdos & ripists. (Censored if I say what I mean.)
I dont believe anything these lying brothers say. The two people that would've been able to defend themselves against what these brother's say they did, were murdered. Its their word against those who can't defend themselves, and that was premeditated. They belong where they are, prison.
Those who know the real story , they should be free. Not what the media says .. and people thinking it was greed, your wrong .. talk to the people who have been locked up with them. They know the real story .
These two were free to go to parties and had money hand over fist. The one thing no one mentions is that they had many, many other options available to them. So, all of a sudden they were brave enough to talk to the cameras?But could and did not talk to anyone else prior to killing their parents. They could have gone to a friend with this and not in some stupid written message. They could have called a 1-800 number and there were many available then. They could have talked to all those family member who want them out. They could have done many other things but they choose murder as their only option. Ya, their story does not seem favorable to them now since murder was their only chosen option. They could have even gone to the police. Millions of dollars at their disposal. They could have moved out. They could have done so much more than simply chosen to murder.
And the male news anchor stating at the beginning that there was one mistrial makes it even worse. There were two mistrials, and and third trial is when the Menendez Brothers were "convicted".
Honestly i think they have served their time. There are so many other inmates with similar stories and some are already out. Serve another 10 years do 10 year probation.. and let them life ..
They weren’t given the chance to actually be believed. The press was literally mocking their testimony.
It was disgusting!
Everyone in the media mocked them, including SNL
It was a weird time
I don't believe their abuse defense. I still think/always thought it was a ruse for sympathy. I think they murdered their parents for money like so many other cases
believed in what way? They admitted to murdering their parents.....the CLAIM that it was due to abuse is nonsense......if you are actively being attacked, you have self defense, BUT, as soon as the attacker stops, the justification for self defense has ended....When the parents were shot in the back while watching TV, there is no way to argue that they were assaulting the kids in a way just justified any lethal forms of self defense.....the reality is, IF there was abuse, it had NOTHING to do with the murder.....
if gypsy rose is free, they should be too :/
Exactly!!! Had they been girls they would of believed them
Yes
This!! 💯💯
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
This is when money works against them. They were portrayed as greedy children. They should be freed. We now are more aware of sexual and mental abuse and take that into consideration than before. The fact they wanted this trial closed to look good for political reasons is huge.
Twenty four family members advocating for a manslaughter charge says a lot.
Says everything ...!!!...including how screwed up our supposedly "justice" system was...and is!!
No it doesn't people lie, where is the evidence....24: people know, how many called police, how many stopped the abuse, how many testified on any trial
@@Ailenna r u throwing shade or are you a child abuser...lets say neither. People don't get involved where $ is because it can end your life ...that's some thing to slap you in the face with.see there that hurts and rather you've been in that circumstance ever or not. God only knows, but it would be a farce to say you know how you'd be ...im gonna go out on a limb here..people are both liars thieves cheaters even if its themselves they do it to. We all fall short. But in the face of abuse..thou shall not murder is questionable (I'd wonder if I'd be taken that into account right before I'm punched in the face for the 100th time..can't say)and leave the rest in the hands of the only one capable and able to do the right thing That's an audience of one...GOD!
@@Ailenna exactly. Their lying. I’m with you. Where is the evidence and why didn’t anyone step in and help
@@chinadoll534were you watching the trial? Some of the family members did in testify! This is why there were mistrials BEFORE the third trial where they THREW OUT the abuse evidence and testimony.
This is close to what occurred last night with an innocent man being executed due to the injustice of the American legal system.
They need to change the laws on emotional and mental abuse towards kids and people. There needs to be more resources for this . Not saying killing anyone is right .. but if they had the support they needed to get away from their parents, they might have never killed anyone .
I agree with you 100%
Not might not have, but almost certainly wouldn't have.
Their entire family knew what was going on… Kitty’s family and the cousins. Everyone knew but were too embarrassed to do anything
@@BrooklynBaby100i just can’t understand why they wouldn’t protect them as children… her own birthed children from him
@rxy1486 If the whole family knew, then the whole family is an accessory to the crime. Anonymous tips to the police existed during the 80s. "We tip" crime report holiness.
So, these two boys were sexually assaulted by their father at a young age, facing verbal, physical, and mental abuse from both parents. It’s no surprise they ended up bratty and acting out the way they did, that’s often what happens to kids who go through that kind of trauma. Some of the comments seem to overlook how serious this is. The Bible even says not to harm a child or provoke them to anger, yet that’s exactly what these parents did. Also, we shouldn’t ignore that many people in these elite circles are involved in terrible things. Who knows what else their father might have been involved in? It’s terrifying to think about, and I hope there wasn’t any trafficking or drugging going on with them as children. These boys needed mental health help, not to be thrown in prison. Yes, they clearly have serious issues, but their parents' actions played a big role in their mental state. Some people keep saying they could have just "moved out," but they don’t realize these were young, wealthy kids (18-21, just out of high school) who had their lives controlled by their father who buck broke them at age six. An actual thing that masters use to do to their male slaves in order to assert dominance and break their willful spirit. Erik’s went on until he was age 18. Their situation wasn’t normal, so it’s unfair to judge them like they were thinking rationally. Nothing about these men’s family was normal. They’re sick, and I mean that in the most literal way possible. So why are some of y’all trying to apply reasonable logic to these men like they were right in the head. I swear some of y’all don’t think 🤦🏽♀️
Agree 💯
You’re absolutely right. The sexual, physical and emotional abuse of children NEVER leads to anything good. Almost every imprisoned human being in the US has suffered some kind of abuse as a child. It’s heart wrenching.
@@BozeDoesGodsWork you had a lot to say even brought the Bible into it. Easy to see you believe them. Simple question, what if they're indeed lying? They have lied from the very beginning after all. Let's say they're telling the truth. Does abuse of any kind justify premeditated murder?
I’m 69 years old and have been on this earth in the midst of a lot of history in the LA area. Honestly the more I learn about this case the more I believe they were abused. To kill their father…and mother…..not the best solution. How does one defend oneself when the very place in which they grew up turns a blind eye to and concerning them? Something in that home was perverse,it seems.
@@northprime_unlimitedno 😂 not very simple when the people who are supposed to protect you from that type of evil are the very people who are inflicting that pain on you 😂
@@northprime_unlimitedexactly! they wanted the mansion and the money instead of leaving and getting jobs to support themselves.
Had they come right out and said that, maybe. They NEVER mentioned sexual abuse until they got that nut job lawyer (girl w/the blonde curly hair, forgot her name), she was famous already for using the sexual abuse card. Also they way they killed their parents, it was slow and painful, straight up torture. Then, they go out on a spending spree and party every night until they were arrested. They weren't abused. Cold blooded psycho paths
They were also mentally and emotionally abused and after years of that kind of abuse people snap.
@@northprime_unlimitedthey tried to run away when they were younger too.
The second trial was a sham because they weren't even allowed to bring up the molestation. That right there proves it wasn't a fair trial. As a survivor of sexual abuse as a child, if this proof comes out then these brothers should be released.
it isn't relevant.....self defense is ONLY for when someone is ACTIVELY being attacked.....if someone punches you, and continues to punch you, you have a right to "self-defense"....if someone punches you and then walks away, there is ZERO justification for self-defense under the law.....
@@robjohnson9270 Agreed. Also, was the alleged molestation ever proven?
@@SRSOSChannel2I mean they got like 24 family members that have came forward to do another trial and I’m sure there are family members that can confirm but were to scared to back then because back in the 80s 90s people think yourrr dumbbb assf if you think a man or boy could be SA but now a days we see celebrities and rich people , poor people and government officials all being charged an prosecuted for SA an I hope they get a fair trial cuz in my opinion from what I’ve experienced with the laws and courts your “guilty until proven innocent “ !!! Straight up lol you gotta show your innocent until then you can sit in cell smh
@@xeuroxgoonxgaming2510 You had to make a personal attack because your argument is lacking. Reported.
@@SRSOSChannel2 ok report me ? idc man its youtube dude jezzzz get a life and yeah they screwed them on the 2nd trial they could do another one easy give them a chance at least !
Mental abuse holds one a prisoner regardless how old they are.
I hope they've healed from the mental/emotional/physical/sexual abuse.
@@MomMom4Cubsyeah sitting in a prison cell will help them heal🙄
@@kayvillarosa7683yeah i know right ! Like sitting in a cell helps anyone who has suffered SA or Abuse at all or drug problems they need help not jail smh I hope they get another fair trial and can use anything they want as long as it’s real !
@@MomMom4Cubsyou don’t ever heal it just gets less painful every so often an then it hits you again you don’t ever forget I’ll tell you that right now !
That's not true. Some are stronger than others, but if you have fallen to the temptation of money, you will fail.
It was about time. Release them from prison.
The treatment of having them in separate jails is extremely cruel.
they need to stay locked up forever....
@@robjohnson9270wrong
Free them, they've been in the worst prison living with their parents in the past. That type of abuse would have eventually killed them if they hadn't acted. The justice system failed them back then and continues to.
Agreed they learned their lesson
They were tried and found guilty. Case closed.
Free the brothers
24 disgusting family members that were too afraid to call the police for those two boys!!! Let them be free they have served way too much time!! God u gave them those parents now give them their freedom back!!
Family members are lying. 🤥 why didn’t they step in and help. Those two boys wanted their parents money. And the boys didn’t like the fact that their father were strict
@@chinadoll534Because in the 80s and 90s society was more conservative and lacking when it came to issues like mental health or abuse. The family members couldn’t do nothing because either they relied on the father or didn’t want to publicly denounce the parents especially when people still looked down upon Cuban Americans. Not exactly the time to be outspoken about other peoples business or theirs.
@@veecee8842 Regardless of what excuse you want to use to defend murders. Does any excuse justify premeditated murder? They were old enough to move out. The brothers said, they supposedly killed their mother because she knew and did nothing. 24 other family members knew and did nothing supposedly, but the brothers stopped at the parents. They are lying trying to get sympathy and bleeding hearts to support them. The family is being coached on what to say. So many kids are abused every which way on the regular but don't go on to commit murder never mind premeditated murder. So many people are eager to play the fool.
@@chinadoll534couldn’t agree more with you! The fact people want these sick murderers back on the street is insane ! They were already convicted and haven’t been let out for a reason for over 30+ years and these random people just believe their bs story of sexual abuse and think they know better than the court.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
A sad accusation on the family. Several of them did try, but were met by the fierce power of Jose. They suffered too. Much comes out in the court case, helping us get an understanding of how members of the family tried to help the brothers. But one thing that stands out - adults found Jose to be formidable,we can see how impossible it was for the brothers to deal with Jose.
I remember when this one happened. EVERYBODY was against them.
The general consensus was rape was not a valid reason to commit murder. That's changed
They made up the story.!
@@Colleensue Great talk .!
@@Colleensuethey didn’t though
Perché negli anni 80 le molestie sulle donne venivano derise .... figurati le molestie sugli uomini non venivano credute.....negli anni 80 dovevi essere "uomo " adesso le persone capiscono di più cosa vuol dire essere molestati sessualmente...in Romania li avrebbero dato un premio 😂 20 anni erano fuori e avevano anche i complimenti per aver ucciso due molestatori
I think they need to have a lesser sentence. Years of sexual abuse by both parents. There's the letter the younger brother wrote to his cousin saying how he was scared his dad would try to come in his room at night. And then there's the Menudo singer, Roy Rossello's confession, saying he was raped and sexually abused repeatedly after his rape by their father, Jose Menendez. And still, no one thought to keep investigating. I don't agree with murder but the justice system once again failed. This is just tragic.
I'm sorry the brothers experienced disgusting, evil, perverted behavior by the people who were supposed to truly protect and love them in a different way.
I wish more individuals could understand sexual abuse and survivorship... your comment was perceived as open hearted.. as i am a sexual assault survivor........
Lyle alleges abuse from 6-8 only. Erik alleges from 6-18 and that Lyle also abused him😂
Well said. Agree with everything
Molesting,Raping and Abusing your OWN children for 21 years would drive anyone crazy. Plus both parents were addicts. That alone affects a kid's mental health tremendously. Watching their story on Netflix is so sad. They paid for their crimes before they ever committed. Their parents were evil.
If you listen to the details in the trail against their father 😢 it was way way way to detailed of S.A 🤢
Exactly
They served enough time. It's time to set them free. There were victims of rape and sexual abuse for many years.
The years of abuse they endured were a prison sentence too. They suffered enough!
The WHOLE PROSECUTION case was messed in so many directions convicting two brothers of greed and cold murder DISMISSING the other factors of proven SA. Wanted to slap every one of those prosecutors and journalists who spoke hate against them declaring "deserving" of a death sentence AGAIN dismissing the sexual abuse - for victims of such. Dismissed or swept under the rug.
SHAME ON THEM
It was motivated by greed but by the District Attorney office Gil Garcetti.
Political power is an animal of itself.
Free these boys the evidence is very powerful. I follow this story. The music industry freak offs drugs and sex trafficking is real.
These Brazilian trips are fishy.
Boy bands
The Melendez Brothers are survivals of many facets of injustices.
BINGO! framing these kids for his sick desire for power. May he get his karma.
Why free them? Abused or not they committed murder.
Now that menudo story ! Might be what sets them free ! The justice system is broken and has been for many years ! I’ve been thrown in jail and had cases dismissed at trail because they knew it was a false arrest ! So to the people that never go out and never get in trouble basically grandma 👵 syndrome humans I call it . Think that everyone in jail is guilty not true ! There has to be at least a 5% of innocent people in federal custody right now ! 💯
Oh yeah. Free them! 😂
It’s so hard because, by law, it was premeditated ENOUGH. That being said, they’re not heartless, they had a serious motive to not put up with the abuse they suffered for their entire lives up to that point. The sexual abuse can’t be “proven”, but signs are most definitely there. I’d at this point, it being almost 40 years since the incident, we should look at their behavior since what happened, and look into letting them live out their last years as free men.
The Dad is a Sick mother Trucker 🤧🤧
They’re lying to many red flags. Let them rot in prison.
So were the boys !
@@dral9657yea bc of the dad
@@dral9657being 6 or 7 being treated like that and you blame them for behaving like they did? They were kids and didn’t know what was right or wrong
@@kevinpatel1143 Well it’s a good thing the jury understood what this was !
If family knew why didn't they call police?
Google: How Did the Menendez Brothers Get Caught? Why Erik's Private Therapy Confession Led to Their Arrest and Conviction from People Magazine. It's all in there. The lies. The lavish spending after they murdered them. And not a word about sexual abuse. They were just both tired of their dad bossing them around. They were petty thieves and burglars too. In trouble with juvenile authorities lots. And their parents spent a lot of money on therapists to try to help them. Doesn't seem to fit the profile of how abusive parents act.
Worst justice ever ,release them please
I know it's horrible what they been through , also sadly prison was probably better than their home life .Just release them ..
35 years and 20 years apart 😮 Worst justice ever , let them out
Horrific what they went through
I THINK THE MENEDEZ BROTHERS SHOULD BE SET FREE I THINK THEY ABSOLUTELY PAID THEIR DUES FOR THE CRIME & SHOULD BE LET FREE. GOD BLESS THEM.
Everyone from the police to the media to SNL made fun of these boys. They were judged by how they were acting after the murders, but if you had been abused and controlled for years, how would you act once free?
Exactly, plus i do believe If they were young Woman the Support, especially from the Public would've been another...
The way Eric describes his father’s sexual abuse of him made me so sick to my stomach, and that wasn’t acting. I can’t help but sympathize. I’m not saying he should have killed his parents, but his dad had tortured them so rough psychologically that they probably felt they couldn’t tell anyone and nobody would believe them given his dad’s wealth and status. They possibly felt it was their only way to free themselves of their constant abuse. And the DA getting the sexual abuse thrown out of the second trial? That’s like straight up cheating, of course they were screwed! Give them their freedom already!
Idk. His letters to convince the witnesses to make up stories seem so well written. Like screenplays.
Completely. The horrific details in their testimony, the raw emotion that is extremely difficult to fake like that. I always believed they were telling the truth
They deserve freedom. End of story.
Good ! The Justice system needs to do their part , because they clearly failed these kids at the time.. just bc someone grows up in a rich neighborhood doesn’t mean things don’t happen behind closed doors !
The reason they arent free is because back then, men being victims of abuse "wasn't a thing" according to the jury and most likely the judge as well. There was definately another case of failed justice, not saying that murdering their parents was the best solution to get out of their situation, but its been 35 years. Thats more years than they've been abused by their "parents". I really hope that they get a retrial, especially with this new evidence, They deserve freedom for the first time in their lives.
Agree completely
One of the Menudo members said that Jose Menéndez raped him. If you ever doubted these brother's then think about that for a moment, the fact that someone unrelated to the brother's was raped by their Father, says a lot, and it is highly likely that the brothers claims about being abused were true.
Abuse justifies premeditated murder in your world got it.
Lmfao and???????
@@jrco666 yes it does especially when that abuse is sexual and it’s from someone who’s supposed to be your protector
@@_.Amaraxhi so two wrongs make a right. Got it. By the brothers own words they killed their mother because she knew and did nothing. At least 24 other family members knew and did nothing. By your logic the brothers can kill 24 other family members and they're still victims. Apparently being abused is a license to kill, and a get out of jail free card in your world. Thankfully that's not how the real world works.
Exactly. The people responding to your comment defending that sick psychopath Jose M and his abusing complicit wife-would you want your children near Jose and Kitty M for even 5 minutes? They were SICK. I for one am not sorry they are dead. Jose would have continued to rape Erik and most likely other victims
The system is not designed to find the truth. It’s designed to show the public that they did. Prosecutors need the outstanding life style regardless innocence. Many real victims become victimizers.
Free the Menendez Brothers!!
They should be free !!! They did their time,they paid the price. They deserve a chance to turn their lives around.
If it was OJ, you wouldnt be saying this thats the point
@@wingmanmellyOJ Simpson was acquitted. He never went to jail
Why didn’t the family help those boys if they knew what it was happening? They are culpable.
They like tons of others turn a blind eye. If you don't see it and talk about it. It isn't really happening!
Maybe because every time they saw the “boys” they were spending lavishly and being show offs. 😂 high school friend said Erik was a show off. 😂
Good question. The cousin, Andy Cano died of a drug overdose. It could have been guilt for not doing enough.
They’ve already been in prison once, with living with their sick parents. Then they kill their parents and you put them in prison again. You and half a million people know these two men did not get the help they needed in prison. They did their time twice. Let them out and stop with the idiotic trials. It’s unfortunate the letter was found after one relative died, this could have helped the men years ago. Then again it’s just something else that wouldn’t be brought up in trial.
Well said
Their parents got off so lucky. I feel so bad for these brothers. Their parents were absolute monsters. Our “justice” system is broken.
Free the Menendez brothers...they have served more than enough time.
So basically the justice system failed again
If they did this in Canada. They would’ve got away with it. But nope. California state has strict laws.
If this case was tried today, it would have been a totally different outcome. Plus the fact in the third trial they weren't even allowed to talk about the Raping of the poor babies (by their own parents??!!!), is a misjustice in itself!! Our whole prison system, mixed with mental health issues is an atrocity!! They needed mental help and to not be locked up!!! What a waste of human life!! They were let down by the system, and abandoned in their shame!!! This is the reason young boys don't want to talk about sexual abuse! I am actually getting quite angry even typing this!! Erik and Lyle needed to be freed a long time ago. They can actually keep doing more good in this world outside of prison, just like they are doing now from inside those concrete walls.
Agree with everything you said
I don’t know why this is even up for debate. There is no excuse to kill someone, and i am saying this as a survivor of sexual assault myself. Many people go through horrible things and trauma everyday. That’s not fair and it must’ve been horrible for them. But they are not the only ones and most survivors don’t turn into killers. No, just no. There is no excuse, never. Making exceptions for murderers will take us to a horrible place.
@@lacqueredlola agreed. These people that support them, think two wrongs make a right. Sorry for whatever you endured. Money was the motivation for killing their parents, it's sickening their trying use abuse as a get out jail free card.
They’ve been in prison long enough. They should be released by/ no later than Jan 2025.
The way they tried to talk about the abuse and no one listened to them…. No one said anything?
Typical "DENIAL" of others, most often family members denying that abuse has occured.... they want to "Silence" the shame
It was horrific on so many levels
why does going on a shopping spree after killing two people make you guilty of murder???...it does'nt make them guilty at all....
And how long have you been practicing as a mental health expert? Your biased opinion isn't a give away at all
Shopping spree 🤪
lol retail therapy is normal but for one or two things. Presidential suite at the bel air since they didn’t want to sleep where their parents brains were blown out. Explain that
Same district attorney all these years?
Free them! ❤
They should just let them out already... they're not a harm to anyone else... i think they deserve some freedom...
It is time to sit and look at EVERYTHING the right way. It has been way too long for these men to be locked away and endure even more psychological distress. Those men deserve to be heard not judged.
Definitely
Justice for Lyle & Erik
FREE THEM NOW!!!
Free those poor abused brothers.
you shoot to death your parents, two people... two people who are not here to defend themselves and the question is, where these two killers misjudged? this worlds sick.
One kid killing their parents, is a bad kid. TWO kids killing their parents, is a bad family.
No. Excuse they should have left home and made their own way in life not MURDER their parents
I agree
‼‼KTLA apparently interviewed Lyle in 1989 shortly after the murders before he was implicated. I think its time to rerelease that footage again ‼thumbs to get this to the top so they see it
What punishment does the family think they themselves deserve for knowing about the abuse and not doing anything?
I think that is why the cousin Andy Cano got into drugs and died of overdose. Guilt
Am I the only one thinking they could of gone in a different direction instead of killing both parents?
The brothers were 18 & 21 at the time if the killings were not financially motivated why didn't they move out? They could have just gotten away from their parents. They went on ridiculous spending spree after the murders instead but money wasn't the motive? Abuse justifies murder? Kids are abused worse than those brothers every day unfortunately and most of them don't resort to murder. They're not victims, they're murders playing the victims.
FREE THEM 💯‼️🙏
They belong in jail they were old enough to leave just like others run away at 16 after being abused.
That doesn’t make it all go away
It's so easy for someone to say they don't believe that this happened to the boys until it happens to them. They told their mother, but she didn't believe them. If the was alive today, I would like to say, shame on you for not believing your son's. You should never tell your child that you don't believe something so serious. Investigate the matter. It's time to set the brothers free. 😢
I think she is also accused of abusing them as well
It's not that she didn't believe them. She knew!
That is true of so many things. . .
She knew and turned a blind eye, and she molested Lyle.
@@elizabird6516 so sad. I hope they are released with time served. Many much more vile men have done less time!
Beavis and Butt-head
It was such an unfair trial.. the judge was all to himself... They have served enough in prison...they should be freed now
Put the family in jail that knew and did nothing 👈🏽
Unfortunately, the statute of limitations has expired. That's probably why they're putting on their "caring" faces now.
It’s really a shame. I remember this story. I hope they can have peace in their life. I think you are right about the statute of limitations thing.
Exactly!!
Or they didn't know anything b/c none of what the boys are claiming actually occured. Maybe THAT'S why the family "didn't say anything." No one knows but the people making the accusation.
As if
Curious if there is a nationwide petition that could be presented? Or what is the terms of the current petition? Open to responses.....
Free the Menendez brothers
The “justice” system failed them
I believe the sexual abuse allegations, but they should have left.
I believe the abuse but I believe that it was premeditated they should have left they was old enough
💯💯💯💯
That’s what I said it’s not like they were 10 years old. One was 18 the other 21. They could have both gotten regular jobs then start saving their money secretly for an apartment. They could have went half on a down payment and half the rent become roommates to save on cost. As far as college they could have taken out financial aid and stop looking to dad to pay tuition. They could have transfer to a much cheaper state college/university if they couldn’t afford the Ivy League tuition even with financial aide. The way an abuser keeps you stuck is by having you depend on them. If you start becoming independent and don’t need their resources anymore you take away a lot of their power that they had over you and over your life. They are forever stuck in 1989 because the decisions they made.
They need to be out already
Those boys or now men were treated unfairly, omg OJ was freed ..and the menedez brothers paid the price ...I am so disappointed in our justice system ..Let them out yesterday
They did it. The evidence shows that. They were brutal and cold blood killers of their parents. 911 call. "Someone killed my parents!" Not "I killed my parents for emotionally and sexually abusing me." Plus, the brothers tried to blame it on guess who exactly? Do you remember? I do. Wise up.
They have way too many cheer leaders in these comments smh! They deserve to be in jail forever
I don't believe their abuse defense. I still think/always thought it was a ruse for sympathy. I think they murdered their parents for money like so many other cases
Just wondering why they would tell their therapist about the murders but not the abuse.
It is so difficult for SA victims to come out and say what happened
@@leslieduenas2692if they were kids when they murdered the parents maybe I could understand. a lot of people grow up with abusive and overbearing parents and don't murder them. setting some very dangerous precedents trying to justify pre meditated murders by the Gypsy's and Menendez brothers of the world. soon we will hear how abusive Carly Gregg's mother was and what an injustice her sentence is. spare me. 🙄
@@noodles5004🙄🙄
They made the whole thing up, the older brother even threatened the therapist life if he came out with the truth
@@raulh5457 Yes, my point exactly.
It was motivated by abu$e. Gypsy is free and she wasn’t actually abu$ed the way these men
Abuse is not a justification for murder. It’s not man slaughter. The brothers were not in immediate danger. They drove to San Diego to purchase the shotguns. Their parents were sitting on the couch, watching TV, eating ice cream. And all these family members who support the brothers, they didn’t do anything for them. And they knew for YEARS. They didn’t go to the police, CPS, etc. They kept it a secret. They enabled the abuse. Why didn’t the brothers go after them? That’s a logical conclusion one could draw. Most people who are abused don’t go on to kill their abusers. So why does being abused make it ok to murder your parents? If that were the case, a lot of people could kill their parents and claim abuse. The brothers are where they belong. In prison for life.
They were unjustly sentenced! They endured a horrific life because of their father and their mother, knowing what was happening, stood by. Imagine being constantly R’ed by your father! They should have received a sentence for the unaliving… but also received intense therapy at a different facility besides a prison! FREE THESE BROTHERS! THEY ARE VICTIMS!
And had a mother that hated you because of her failed actress dreams. That can't be forgotten.
They killed their parents that’s it, people let the system alone. Those guys should continue their lives with their dirty bloody hands and people should not feel sorry for them
Its a shame that others can only see 1 side....
Truth has only one side xxx
FREE THE BROTHERS!!!
Idk is it just me or did they seem like invincible, spoiled brats? Am i seeing it wrong?
The father isn't here to defend himself. So of course they're the victims of abuse. Does being abused give you a license to kill? They had other motives.
Free them both
Greed 💯 %greed
i guess no one believed them, because of how good their acting were back then. Made it look and sound like someone elses did the crime. Also smirked whilst on the first trial and all of a sudden changed stories.
I endured mental and physical abuse and gaslighting as I was growing up from my narcissistic father, but I never once considered harming him, let alone killing him.
u a victim 😭 get sum help
@@OptimusOne these people who support them are of the mind two wrongs make a right. People aren't responsible for their actions anymore apparently, accountability be damned.
Everyone is different. PTSD and trauma affects people in different ways. We do not know how distorted their thinking was due to extreme trauma
@elizabird6516 so because they endured abuse they're justified for murder? Is that the world you want to live in? Most murders endured abuse in their childhood, it's a shared commonality between them. This will spiral out of control in a world already full of chaos. Next people will sympathize with pedos & rapists.
@@elizabird6516 so because they endured abuse they're justified for murder? Is that the world you want to live in? Most murders endured abuse in their childhood, it's a shared commonality between them. This will spiral out of control in a world already full of chaos. Next people will sympathize with Pdos & ripists. (Censored if I say what I mean.)
I dont believe anything these lying brothers say. The two people that would've been able to defend themselves against what these brother's say they did, were murdered. Its their word against those who can't defend themselves, and that was premeditated. They belong where they are, prison.
Justice.
Jesus Christ please deliver them from anything not of You as only You can do. Thank You. Amen
We got the Mendez bros before GTA 6
As soon as parents killed...they both went n bought rolexes n lived the high life....
They lived thru a lot of torture. Doubt you would allow yourself to be subjected to
@@northprime_unlimited no but they were free for once doubt you would know what that feels like
That's the only kind of life they knew. Family net worth was 220million today
And so what
You have no idea what they went through read the details
Obviously MISJUDGED!
Those who know the real story , they should be free. Not what the media says .. and people thinking it was greed, your wrong .. talk to the people who have been locked up with them. They know the real story .
They were grown men. Get a job to support yourself and move out!! They weren’t children!
These two were free to go to parties and had money hand over fist. The one thing no one mentions is that they had many, many other options available to them. So, all of a sudden they were brave enough to talk to the cameras?But could and did not talk to anyone else prior to killing their parents. They could have gone to a friend with this and not in some stupid written message. They could have called a 1-800 number and there were many available then. They could have talked to all those family member who want them out. They could have done many other things but they choose murder as their only option. Ya, their story does not seem favorable to them now since murder was their only chosen option. They could have even gone to the police. Millions of dollars at their disposal. They could have moved out. They could have done so much more than simply chosen to murder.
Yeah they got to reopen that case
Everyone can claim self-defense and get away with murder.
And the male news anchor stating at the beginning that there was one mistrial makes it even worse. There were two mistrials, and and third trial is when the Menendez Brothers were "convicted".
Except for why did they phase a FILM script in the boys safety deposit boxes?
I'm begging please free this poor kids now 😭😭😭
Honestly i think they have served their time. There are so many other inmates with similar stories and some are already out. Serve another 10 years do 10 year probation.. and let them life ..