Nikole Hannah-Jones | Modern Day Segregation | Talks at Google
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- Modern Day Segregation: How & Why Public Schools are (Still) Divided by Race The Problem We All Live With
Nikole Hannah-Jones (nikolehannahjon...) is an award-winning investigative reporter covering racial injustice for the New York Time Magazine. Nikole has spent the last five years investigating how official policy creates and maintains racial segregation in American public schools.
In 2016, Nikole helped found the Ida B. Wells Society for Investigative
Reporting, a training and mentorship organization geared towards increasing the number of investigative reporters of color.
[As of May 2017] Nikole is writing a book on school segregation entitled, "The Problem We All Live With," to be published on the One World imprint of Penguin/Random House.
To learn more about Nikole's work, please visit
nikolehannahjon...
Moderated by Sheethal Shobowale (Research Manager, Google).
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I can’t stand the term “person of color” and i’m black. Just say what you are! Every group has a very distinctive lineage, history, & experience ✌🏾🇺🇸
I'm with you on this...
whites are persons of color also. Non colored persons
Bravo buddy!
That is just a short term used for speaking of diverse groups of non-white people without spending the day listing all the races. I am Latino, a term I personally don't use, I identify myself as Cuban, I do understand in the interest of time the use of Latino or person of color. It would take all day to list all spanish nationalities.
I dont like POC it too close to colored person which has racist overtones amd why does the NACCP still use that outdated term
This is the most scathingly honest and convicting thing about public education that I've heard! So brave.
@47 47 No. You mean an all white prep school.
Shes such a giving person to lend her power, privilege and status to these ''less than'' people
Love this woman. She talks the talk and walks the walk.
She pours ‘victimhood’ poison into black children’s brains.
My family moved to Virginia in 1971 with a military assignment.....fast forward to 1988....my first career focused job as a management associate with a bank...I am fully aware of what Community Reinvestment (Act) was supposed to accomplish...school integration will be an ongoing discussion for decades to come....
Do most Pulitzer Prize winning pieces have to publish retractions??
What was the retraction? If you have a link, that would be great, as I can't find it online
Without mindless minions, this lady does not exist.
As a Black community we need to understand our problem here is resources, not white integration. If we could just fund our own schools, tutor our kids and give them access to experience and connections, we would easily be on par with white schools without having to depend on a continuously hostile population and let them stay where they belong: away from us and our kids.
@Sudhir Kakar on some level in the present I understand the pragmatic take on things with parenting and even crude eugnlenics. But with the history of globalization, women's rights, and integration it completely decimated and caused so much instability at the time for poor males and specifically poor black males in creating stable black families.
That is the issue, it is about money and white folks are afraid of distribution of instuitions, historically when black folks rise economically they work to tear it down. Yes, Economic empowerment will help the black community.
Integration is about resources .
Segegation is about lack of resources
Segregation will never allow a equal.playing field because it is abour an unequal playing field abd lsck of resources .
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Bruh you just reminded me I was white. I totally forgot till read ur post.
Sounds pretty racist to me. This is what we try to get away from this kind of thought. Hostile population? Let them stay were they belong away from our kids?
Love this woman. She talks the talk and walks the walk. 👊🏽👊🏾👊🏿
this woman & her type thinking is cancer to the people she claims she wants to help.
Kevin Odom indeed.
she is on point!
My kind of people. Way too many comemierdas in this word sucking up precious oxygen.
I love this lady.
I live in Cleveland ohio. Our schools are so segregated!! I believe she is so on point the key is making all schools open enrollment. If any kid from Cleveland could go to a high performing suburban school then improving all Schools may become a topic
Lets continue to Burn Loot Maim in honor of BLM reparations for whiteness
Keep up the Burning Looting & Maiming.. . the reasons for the segregation(after you burn loot and maim no one will want to live with you..) & you'll be poorer and more segregated for it... just how det,chi started getting segregated in the 60's and has gotten worse & worse every yr... now it's gonna happen to other cities after the Burning,Looting & Maiming in 2020..
It is the students who are high performing, not the schools.
Sending your child to a school where students are performing better will not necessarily make your child perform better.
It all depends upon your child.
@@DaveWard-xc7vd how did that student become that way 😳
I know people that transfered to better schools and became better students
21:00 "We are not going to fix this problem by not making a personal sacrifice..."
You are so right about that.
The segregation of American schools, more than any other issue, brings clear attention to the ongoing presence of race inequality in the US.
Yup. Can't define racism without fostering racism. Morgan Freeman put it simple just stop talking about color.
Revelation 18:2
“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.” This is why you should stop eating bird's.
Matthew 27:29
“And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!” This is why you put up a reef.
Acts 5:30 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Joshua 8:29 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, that remaineth unto this day.
Acts 10:39 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: This is why you put up a tree. AMEN
Hannah-Jones argues against the welfare of her own child. The country, like it or not, is pay to play in virtually every aspect of life. It is more important for your child to hang out with a better class of racist in a private school than to hang out with the kids in your local substandard learning desert. Furthermore, relative to the King quote, it is far better for future policy making white kids to go to school with the bright beautiful, and in many cases, more talented AA kids. I would have thought this was obvious for someone of Nikole's stature. The other issue, NHJ has not fully anticipated is that with her notoriety her child is going to be viewed as someone who is slumming. Aggression always finds a kid from an affluent family who is doing this.
Eventually Nikole will realize this and move to a part of the country where segregated public schools are actually good. She will then simultaneously be doing the right thing for her politics and her daughter. Might I suggest a college town.
Keep up the Burning Looting & Maiming.. . the reasons for the segregation(after you burn loot and maim no one will want to live with you..) & you'll be poorer and more segregated for it... just how det,chi started getting segregated in the 60's and has gotten worse & worse every yr... now it's gonna happen to other cities after the Burning,Looting & Maiming in 2020..
She said she lives in Bedstuy but chose to go to a school in Dumbo. I guess the schools in Bedstuy weren't good enough for her to make grandstand with her daughter?
What a profound statement.
"Segregated schools harm black children".
So going to school with other black children is harmfull to black children?
So how does it affect white children?
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Furrowed Brow It affects both. l don't know you, you don't know me. How do you expect to live as human beings together on this planet? By having no knowledge of each others peoples. This would be what is call mental slavery. That's like people living next door to each other and not knowing each others name. Is this the kind of world you want to live in? Don't feel rain on there are lots of sock peoples who do believe and live this way. There was a song title, "All Those Loney Peoples".
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Furrowed Brow. The underfunding Black schools are targeted with harms Black children. She explains this in the video if you bothered to watch it.
I was about to listen to the podcast on NPR but wanted to meet her before listening. Nice lady.
Suuuuuuuure. And cyanide is a tasty seasoning.
Your appearance speaks volumes ,it introduces who you are ,your image is relative to your creator ,we are made in his image .now the enemy of truth works night and day to change God's image and present another image a white one. For you to have red heir is European imagery ,false ,unnatural.,what are you saying. To our caildren?.
She literally is half white. She is as much African American as she is European American. Her mother is a white American woman. So she can’t wear red hair now, what should she do? Wear Bantu knots and fulani earrings with henna dyed lips? This country is the one who invented the social concept of race, so for you to be a man criticizing a woman of color is bad. And “God” has an image. That’s just laughable. I thought there was no comparison between man and God, now God has attributes similar to creation of looking like something. I could have sworn God was unable to be conceptualized or thought of in terms of an image in our small human minds (in comparison to the Greatness of God)
picking a school is very hard. this is interesting because segregation is marked historically by racism. now the numbers are changing and parents subconsciously keep old paradigms alive. I am now interested in reading this piece. now for this discussion there should be a break down of what the "choice and privilege" means for race to help those who have a hard time seeing this in society. define segregation with facts because people are subconsciously racist and feel threatened by this kind of talk instead of... hmmm doing research. sad times in education though, especially with the markets of schools. there are many charter schools taking over fundings from public schools which bleed out the resources for the poor. super chaotic times research and the sharing of experiences such as this is necessary. THANKS!
Remember this message kids. It's all "white" peoples fault.
Black people. It's all white peoples fault. Keep doing everything the exact same way.
This is important, definitely do not try to find out what successful & rich people do that you're not doing since it's not your fault.
Make sure to follow the same advice black woman like this give to the masses but dont actually follow themselves.
I love watching so many super successful black men & woman who are some of most privileged people on the planet constantly sharing with poor black people how racist & horrible the most prosperous nation to ever exist is.
They go on to tell poor blacks how they cant make it & that whites are the reason behind all their failures.
What makes me really sad is that if America is this horrible then damn.... what does that make every other country on earth.
Americas poorest 5% have a better standard of living than 70% of world population.
Her data she speaks of I can guarantee that calling it flawed is an understatement
When you add all the benefits that poor Americans receive plus pay etc they are tied with the nordic countries.
The studies produced on poverty comparing Americans to the rest of world are so ridiculous. They dont include welfare programs, EBt & the tons of other benefits .
All this is trash and it hurts all america and hurts black people by far the most. . I use to think there was no way that people like her w great degrees from great universities could be so dumb.
But after hearing AOC graduated Cum Laude from Boston University with a degree in economics yet when she heard NYC was giving amazon a $3 billion tax incentive to move to NY she rallied the troops raising hell which made amazon change their plans.
This cost 25,000 great paying jobs to NYC which would of also brought tons of jobs and small businesses to the area to service all of these professionals.
They need mobile dry cleaning, maintenance, food & at least a 100 other type services.
This was a horrible move & what she did caused way more damage than anyone can imagine.
The $3 billion was like a discount so when Amazon paid New York $30 billion in taxes they'd get $3 billion back or wouldnt have to pay the $3 billion.
No doubt NY didnt need $27 billion in taxes to help the city and people in it.
When AOC heard the news of amazon not coming she was very happy speaking about how now they could take that $3 billion and hire teachers ETc.
AOC didnt understand that the $3 billion doesnt exist unless they come..She fd things up running her mouth and thats when i knew these people might really be that dumb.
Bruh I just remembered I was white. Totally forgot till watched this video. Wow
Re: Public (bad public school vs. private) I do understand Nikole’s point - but I believe it’s more nuanced, as not everyone is putting their kid in a private school just because of academics. Could be smaller class sizes, personality, bullying, etc.
Also, if we base this decision - as she is - upon the idea that we cannot utilize our resources for any advantage and still fight for disadvantage. That would mean that she and her fam need to move to project housing. Can’t live in a “safe” neighborhood. In other words, where does it stop?
Lastly, there are other, and maybe even more effective ways in many instances, to attack school inequality - aside from placing your child in a “bad” public school (not saying the idea is obsolete - just adding TO that idea). As in joining city council or using power to have influence *on* city council -or- addressing the school board and lawmakers, etc. Again, this is nuanced, but I am glad she is speaking on it and think this was a great discussion.
I see your point, but add that there are no perfect practitioners of "equality" nor does she claim to be one. Even if one does send their kid to a neighborhood school, move into low-income housing, etc. There is always more they can do. Do all the clothes they wear come from equal pay companies? Are the materials sourced from renewable farms, etc? The point is we all have a personal morality and can decide to look at the state of the education system in the U.S. and act. The points you raised are another set of great ideas! However, most people will only and can only realistically do 2-3. For most people, moving their child to a school for integration is the emotionally hardest yet logistically simplest thing they can do and she offers it as a great option, while noting its still a privilege. Not a one size fits all solution but something that could have major ramifications if most (not all) people did it.
Mjadala mkubwa (great discussion)! First, Black people in the United States should drop the term 'Black American' and pick an African (Bantu) name for the (collective) group, e.g., Maboma ('many villages' < Kiswahili). The "Black American" term does nothing to denote that the associated person is of African origin. In fact, the term "Black American" sounds like someone who is classified as an appendage culturally , ethnically and philosophically to the American, the name that the white colonizers, who founded the eventual United States, gave themselves. Perhaps Black people ought to embrace their African heritage and identify as Bantu. Just keep it simple. The African culture in the US is based on this geo-ethnic background. The rest of the African Diaspora is pretty much Bantu as well. Everyone needs an ethno-lingua-cultural reference for themselves which references the 7 major areas of culture: ethos, economics, politics, creative arts, social organization, history and mythology. Put all of the greatest talents, achievements and narratives from past and present under the banner of the new name. Though the group is based in the US, having a home and affiliation in Africa is part of the birthright as well as a conduit for economic and political leverage in a mzungu (white) dominated country (United States). The group should state that they are Africans. This creates proper order. Second, develop an Africa linkage/engagement plan. Multi-level engagement w/ Africa is the basic solution and path forward for African-Americans. Just thinking outside the box by a Bantu passing by!
42:53 "...I hadn't even heard of red lining until I started reading Ta-Nehisi Coates."
Chris Blanco Thanking you for help educating these white liberals who have come to rescue black people with their privilege and Genes. The real white supremacists is hiding with in the progressive movement These white people with great intentions are oblivious to the unconscious racist narratives that have given them a platform to feel so like hero’s saving the Poor and unfortunate.
I started listening to Coates and his experience with Hip Hop but then he he started picking on John McWorter calling him all sorts of necessary things. McWorter invited Coates showed up to debate McWorter Coates shriveled up like a baby. He is all talk until he gets around a real analytic and then he looks like a dope.
@@bigears17 So because Chris White III highlights a quote from the video giving credence to an "intellectual" who is highly respected in his FIELD, you feel the need to "weigh in" attempting to discredit the man? Wow.....
@@bernardholmes6570 Talk about it. It keeps them from looking at the "root" of the problem......which is in the mirror.
Nikole Hannah-Jones is to history what Jerry Springer is to social studies.
Why are u angry at her for telling the truth ? Why must only one side of history alone be told and the other side hidden and ignored ,like it never occured ? Is it because it makes you uncomfortable ? No matter how u try to keep the truth hidden , no matter how long , it would eventualy be revealed.
Woah! AMAZING! I SALUTE U, I RESPECT U MRS NICOLE. U anserd a lot of my curiosities, ur ability to connect d dots is CRAZY! I've neva seen anyone boldly speak d raw truth to listeners & do it with such respect, ur special. Ur rite, it's hypocritical to speak against s/thing & be apart of it. Change is possible, it might take a while but it always starts w/1
@Burner Fire first of all, who are u actually replying to, me or Nicole? 2nd, what are you saying? Wateva u said didn't make sense.
People may not be able to write the essays, but they can speak better than the essays. You need to be your child's first teacher, and tell her or him the truth about what they will face in life, and how to deal with it. They will still do their own thing, but just hope it is not taking your life for life insurance.
The library was my second home and I am a reader, writer, and a thinker.
The biggest looters are our politicians, banks real estate, doctors, lawyers etc. etc.
Let go and let God always. Put a d before anger, and you get danger. Keep written audio, and video journals. Help non beggars help themselves with both hands.
Excellent interview!
Finland ranks very high in K thru 12 education, and yet its one system not based on tax status or race. Everyone goes to school together. So funding is equally shared throughout. Just chamge.the quality of American Education. America is so behind in Education. But I dont think poor childrwn will do so much better if they attend schools with caucasian children. But I was a Student Counselor at an International school in Saudi Arabia the Children in the state schools wish they could attend the more diverse school, only issue was the English language has to be spoken. But I get The Professor I underatand her point perfectly.
I have the polar opposite opinion on the subject matter but this video is a good watch because it shows perspective, It does not change my opinion but it's good to listen to people with different opinions
I to don't agree with this subject matter but enjoyed listening to every bit of it
Learned a lot. Did even know anything about Red Lighting before watching this.
NisaWild It's called redlining not red lighting.
Definitely an educating video.
Redlining ended in 1968.
@@HiddenHandMedia So, not very long ago?
@@BifronsCandle only 50 years. I mean thats like yesterday right?
Fucking moronic piece of shit.
Vietnam war ended decades ago as well, somehow yet my father is still attending veterans meetings, unable to work a livable salary job due to being disabled. Events and programs from decades ago still have its residual effects felt today. I believe that was the point of the discussion.
Here is a pretty good reason for segregated schools.
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On the one hand she says she and her husband came from working class and worked their way to a position of privilege but others apparently can not. She says her child does not know she is different (but wars an activist backpack). She sounds like she is doing the rest of the school a favor by gracing them with her privileged presence (that sounds like white savior stuff?). This Google talk didn't draw a very large crowd I wonder if they sense the same disingenuous presentation?
We are watching, we know who the enemy is.
You will be judged.
I have no idea who you're referring to, but I bet they're REALLY SCARED.
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GTFOH
@@rexluna5430 Wow, you strung a pronoun and two symbols together into something resembling a sentence. I'M scared now. I'm scared you might be allowed to drive a car without supervision or own power tools.
@@number4cat1 you = 🐒
Bruh how is it Swartzenegar and trump both instituted policy to benefit inner citys WITHOUT using the terms RACE or COLOR. It worked fine you should try it.
"I really need my child to get into Harvard."
I feel so bad for her daughter. This is what terrible parents, regardless of race, would do. Set standards to their young children that they have to live by? Does she not realize that she is advocating for authoritarianism? She just wants to be (or her daughter I suppose) part of the ruling class? smh
What if her daughter is perfectly happy simply being a high school teacher and only needs to go to a well respected state school? Or what if she actually isn't good in school and decides to pursue another path in life, works in a restaurant, learns a bit about running a business, and (still living in a dreamland where these exist) helps run a local coffee house with friends. What if that is enough for her? Will she always be shamed by her mother for not being the best? So many kids nowadays are being treated like fancy houses or cars, something people brag about as though they would care for their kid if they weren't perfect.
I know her daughter.. her name is Najya.. I feel bad 😓
When Nicole made the statement about Harvard, she was quoting a mentality of white affluent parents when they’ve made an excuse about not wanting to send their child to a school in a black hood in which said white parent has gentrified. She literally follows the Harvard statement with some version of, I don’t care about my child getting into Harvard, it’s not what im thinking about for her right now, I want her to be a good person etc…
Income inequality
Awesome discussion!
Many church schools are basically segregated.
So are the churches. Don't get me started on the "hypocricies" of organized religion.
@@ronaldlawrence2229 I found out the hard way. Worse I got my black grandson hurt. He did what I asked him to do, and I can't forgive myself.
Jones writes about segregation and how much of a problem it is ...and then puts her kid in segregated school.
In essence, you are invalidating your message . You can't be critical of segregation but end up essentially supporting it.
You're 100% wrong, but that's something you're probably used to being so it seems normal to you. She clearly explains the benefits for her daughter and the other children of her daughter being in that school. Stop looking for problems and reasons to disagree.
Yup can't define racism without fostering racism. Americans don't see color! Period
This is obviously a comment meant to "discredit" Ms. Jones. She spoke on that and said that despite the fact that she doesn't like the "system" of segregation and integration "on the ground," the people within segregated schools have a lot to offer. I am sure that she will oversee her daughters education to make sure she is learning the "academics" (which every parent should do) while allowing her daughter to benefit from the "psycho-social" aspect of connecting with the members of her community who look like her; she understands that it's just as important as academics. It's called "self-love," get into it.
@@ronaldlawrence2229 Its simple hypocrisy actually. She critiques segregation but sends her kid to a segregated school.
If she were uncritical about school segregation then this wouldn't be an issue . It wouldn't matter.
I don't know if this discredits her per se . What it does is discredit her argument , it invalidates her points.
You can't be a vegetarian if you eat steaks and hamburgers all the time. Thus you can't call yourself a critic of segregated schools if those are where you send your offspring .
THE MORE I LISTEN THE MORE I SEE THIS ASSHOLE AND I MEAN IGNORANT ASSHOLE -----SHE LIVES UNDER A ROCK
NOBODY WANTS TO PUT UP WITH VIOLENT KIDS ------- WAY TO MANY OF THEM ---YOU ARE SO FUCKED UP ---
Lets begin the conversation with a classic argumentum ad verecundiam.
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Beautiful woman
Great panel but just disagree with her stance
it's sad what she teaches her own child.....................tainted!
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I'm so happy.President Trump has not allowed this 1619 project to be used in public schools.He has replaced it with the 1776 project that will teach patriotic history.
Are you uncomfortable with faceing the real truth about American history ? The truth must be revealed . Both good and bad in history should be told .
It is a good thing the smart people of America got rid of the buffoon ,Donald Trump. What is patriotic history ? Why not just teach history?
Is patriotic history teaching lies like slaves were workers and the civil war was not fought because of slavery ?
Teach the children the truth .