The Ju88 and the D17 where the first Luftwaffe kits I ever built,and after the Lancaster,Wellington and typhoon,they are still my favourite aircraft to this day,
Love those Typhoons, that's my favorite British fighter. And as an added bonus the great Ken Adam flew them, if it wasn't for him the James Bond movies wouldn't even have been close to what they were. During an interview here on TH-cam in a documentary about Typhoons he talks about getting hit one time when he was attacking a ground target, he said "I had a hole in my left leg and my left eye was bleeding, aside from that I was OK", man what a bad ass.
@@jeffreymcdonald8267 Tamia makes nice models. An RC one would be cool, I'll bet if you look around on TH-cam someone's built one, I've seen SR71's and just about anything else you can name built and flown by those guy's.
Good video, I never knew about the one sent to Wright Field. The Ju-188 is one of my favourite planes. I wish flight sims (not War Thunder) had this plane. Its canopy shape and features have always fascinated me. As far as I know, the top turret was electrically operated. The video kind of touched on this but the Ju-88 airframe really was ubiquitous. It was a decent plane, versatile and fast.
@@michaelhowell2326 War Thunder doesn't try to simulate the systems of a plane properly, so no having to manage things like engine controls, radio navigation etc. It also has a fairly basic flight model. Its planes feel very similar, don't exhibit any unique turning and stall characteristics and clearly have very simplified handling, probably to make things like arcade mode and flying with a mouse+keyboard work well. It's really an arcade game where you can fly something that looks a bit like a certain plane and that's fine, but it's not for me.
@@michaelhowell2326 i think he is leaning towards sims like il2 battle of series, il2 cliffs of Dover blitz, or DCS for sims that are far more realistic then war thunder. We finally have the Me-410 in il2 BoX so its at least possible
@@fraggsta you're almost right. The war thunder flight model feels that way due to the digital flight instructor. Each aircraft has its own unique flight model and with full real controls the game has a feel the rivals most flight sims.
I was just about to post a ber ber ber u got it wrong as a jk but u beat me to it. They do their best 5 channels videos daily I'm sure there is like 5 or more writers if not they r being taxed n will make mistakes time to time like this. Or the video editor shows the wrong plane or tank. Poop happens but we still enjoy their hard work right...
No way! Literally last night I learned about this plane because I was curious about the history of BMW's logo. It isn't actually based on propellers in the sky, but I still went down the rabbit hole and landed on the Wiki page for the JU-88.
Thank you for not trotting out that old tale! ( for those unaware, I believe the blue and white quadrants of the roundel are from the Barvarian flag, but one can be forgiven for seeing a propeller disk)
@@danweyant707 I found that out last night! It seems that the myth started because of an old commercial that used the propellers of a plane, but the commercial came out long after the logo had been designed. Which you're right about it being based on the flag. Another auto manufacturer story I find interesting is that I was wondering why the Italian named ’Bugatti’ was a French automaker when the majority of famous automakers from Europe are either German or Italian. It turns out that Bugatti is barely french: It was created by an Italian in a place that at the time belonged to Germany. Only later did it become part of France.
The beautiful Ju-188 is one of my favourite bombers but also the less graceful Ju-88. If I recall correctly the Ju-188 could have been putted in production earlier but the RLM still remained unconvinced that the small improvement in performance over the existing A-5's and future A-4's was worth investing time in. But in reality the Ju-188 was generally improved as it was also fitted with extended wings but it was never produced in great numbers both because of the production of the Ju-88 and of course the ever increasing bombings of the German industry. Although it was an excellent and versatile airplane it's greatest drawback was that the bomb load was never been really improved with the Ju-188 and the Ju-88 and the incapability to provide much more powerful engines but not like the awful DB 606 "power system"..
The Dornier Do 17 sometimes referred to as the Fliegender Bleistift ("flying pencil") was popular among its crews due to its excellent handling, especially at low altitude, which made the bomber harder to hit than other German bombers. Unfortunately it was fitted with the mediocre Bramo 323 with equally mediocre bomb load. An honest and elegant bomber....
I have pictures of the ju 388 from the war. They are from my fathers army Air corps unit. Captured in Germany and examined by by fathers unit and flown to Wright Patterson.
The Ju 388 like the Ju 188 is an evolution of the Ju 88. The Ju 388 added a pressurized cockpit and had powerful new engines such as the BMW 801TJ (the turbocharged variant) that allowed a service ceiling of over 44,000ft and the Jumo 222E/F with a speed of 444mph. Also had remote tail armament.
what memories this brings back to me ! When I was a child, around 1967, I had gone to the Smithsonian and had seen this bomber or the 88 version. I fell in love with it and still have the photo I took of this beautiful design albeit the wings were still missing. Looking in the cockpit then assimlates present day video games. Thanks for all of the fantastic vids ! 11/13/22@11:30
The Ju 88 S & T models I believe were developed either concurrently or just after the 188. They were actually superior to the 188 and were getting replaced by the superlative 388 at wars end. Great video!!
There’s an Allied plane called the Mosquito developed later they were both active during the end of the war. He could have been referencing it as the airframe is very similar. The actual nickname for its front glass was “beetle eyes” however
Great video, many thanks. What a very generous gift this was to the RAF. Hitler had a fascination with dive bombing and the requirement for the JU88 to also be a dive bomber hampered it's R & D process somewhat. However to Junker's credit they were still able to turn it into an excellent platform as a multi role aircraft.
It wasn't Hitler who was obsessed with divebombing, it was Ernst Udet, Quartermaster general of the Luftwaffe, so much so that he insisted that the Heinkel HE 177 should be dive capable.
Exactly the same thing happened to the ME-262. It was supposed to be an air superiority fighter, but the demand to make it a multi-role fighter/bomber took away from its fighter capability. In addition, redesigning it into a fighter/bomber caused it to enter the war far too late to make any significant impact. Worse still, the ME-262 was meant to be piloted by top aces, but the redesign meant it entered the war when Germany was running low on aces, let alone top aces. The final nail in the coffin is the ME-262 entered the war at the time when Germany was relying on what I can only describe as "desperation weapons," constructed of whatever materials you could still access, piloted by whomever could fly a plane, basically Germany's last-ditch attempts at throwing SOMETHING at the Allies. As a result, the ME-262 was not made of top-tier materials, did not have top-tier equipment, and the engines were barely-functional at all. If the ME-262 had been the air superiority fighter it was meant to be, it would have entered the war on time, been piloted by the top aces it was meant for, and would have been constructed with fully top-of-the-line materials and hardware. Just imagine the impact it would have made. I guess the lessons learned is to stay out of matters you don't know anything about. Leave designs alone. Allow them to be what they were intended to be.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy In this case it was Hitler who demanded that the plane, 262 could carry bombs, in spite of the fact that most realized it was far better as a fighter. Adolf Galland was allowed to collect a group for this, also with famous topscoring Ace, Erich Hartmann. He preferred though to go back to the Eastern Front.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Despite Hitler's best efforts there were apparently 1200 completed ME 262's at the end of the war. Most were languishing in rail sidings and dispatch fields. Of the few hundred that did make it to active service, they were severely limited in fuel. Ironically, the most advanced aircraft of the war was frequently pulled to the flight-line by oxen. Hitler clearly wasn't interested in winning. His generals had already won the war at Dunkirk in 1940.
@@johnlefucker9323 that’s not a fighter bomber, just cos it has frontal guns doesn’t mean it’s a fighter bomber, somthing like the mosquito could do well shooting down aircraft in its attacker variants (having a mix of 20mm’s and 7.7’s or a 57mm and 7.7’s) while the bomber variant with a glass nose for dropping bombs or when working with Lancaster’s obersevation flares
What are you talking about? The Ju-188 was only replaced in part in reconnaissance roles by the Ju-388. The JU-188 was never replaced by the Ju-388 in its main role as a bomber, not even in limited numbers. The JU-388K version (K being the bomber version version of the Ju-388) never entered series production with only 11 being built (10 K-1s and 1 K-2, the latter never flew).
Most of the German bomber program was shut down towards the end of the war. u 188E and Ju 188A production was shutdown completely with the engines going to Fw 190A and Fw 190D9 production respectively. The the Ju 88G series night fighters and perhaps some Ju 88 S-1, S-2,S-3 fast bombers stayed in production. The Ju 188 and Ju 88G and Ju 88S used the same extended strengthen wings, engines and square tail. The Ju 88G-7 was a pretty fast night fighter. The production program of the Luftwaffe at the end of the war was Me 262, He 162, Ar 23 jets and the Do 335 and Ju 388 piston aircraft The piston aircraft were needed because they could operate at ranges and altitudes not possible for the jets. As you say the Ju 388L reconnaissance aircraft entered service but the Ju 388K bomber and Ju 388J high altitude nightfighter (to tackle the B-29) were not far off. In the end all piston aircraft were cancelled.
Loved the quote at the end! Very fitting for German tech...although I wasn't aware that the 188 had autopilot! It must've been a gyroscopic-based system similar to what made the torpedoes and V1's travel at a level and true course?
I like the quote at the beginning, "'Following Hitler's "rise" to power...", that's a an awfully nice way of putting that, and here I thought his birthday was April 20th not August 11th.
Luckyly it wasn't available during Battle of Britain, but when the Luftwaffe attacked in early 1944( the Blitz) the air defences were largely improved, and a lot of these aircrafts were shot down by NF Mosquitoes.
@@j4armenta you're right, in some books Operation Steinbock was called the "Baby Blitz", and, except for civilians' losses, it didn't accomplished nothing and the Luftwaffe lost a LOT of bombers.
At 2:55, a real "howler" of an inappropriate video clip. In discussion of Ju88 origins, we see an engineer holding what appears to be a four-jet-engine Boeing 707 airliner. Of course, "Dark", the publisher, is simply testing us, to make sure we pay attention.
My friend and I are developing a game based on WW2, mainly the European theater. He's doing the map, units, rules, and minutia, while I try and keep the rules edited. It's based on the framework of Avalon Hills Blitzkrieg game, but much more elegant so far. He's making it extremely playable with introductory scenarios and an interesting naval system. The one thing that has given him fits have been the Luftwaffe's range problems. I've been sending him these articles to help him get a better grip on that, and he sent me the first map and sets of units. I think it's going to be a great cross between Third Reich and Blitzkrieg, the only thing holding us up is he moved to Palm Bay Florida, and I stayed in Maryland. If you're interested, his name is Chris Beaton, and any help is welcome. Im still absorbing the last batch of rules, but I don't think this game will be unplayable.
@@paulmccarthy8658 Having listened to that quotation by our narrator again, I believe he meant that it was the plane itself that was both heavy in all that it carried as an aircraft, but that what it actually did carry was indeed very deadly to its opponents.
I would love to see an episode on the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. So many rumors and theories stick to the event and I would like to hear your take.
I doubt you'd get an accurate account from these guys. The attack on the Liberty was deliberate, it was a response to the US giving intelligence, I believe in the form of high altitude/satellite imagery, to one of Israel's enemies during the Six Day War in 1967, an event that was going on when the Liberty was attacked. The US opposed Isreal attacking Syria and seizing the Golan Heights after the Six Day War had begun, Isreal had been wanting the Golan Heights for some time as a buffer zone between them and Syria and was going to use the attack on them by the Egyptians as an excuse to attack and seize the Golan Heights which they'd had in their crosshairs for a while, the US knew of their intentions to do it and wherein it sided with Isreal on defending it's being attacked by Egypt and even fed them intelligence on Egyptian positions via high altitude imagery taken by an SR71 that was dispatched to do so it was also feeding intelligence to Syria to help them stop Isreal from taking the Golan Heights. Somehow, probably a Mossad mole in US intelligence, Isreal knew about the US feeding Syria that intelligence so the attack on the USS Liberty was, shall we say, a message to keep it's nose in it's own business, unless of course it was feeding Isreal intelligence on Egyptian positions then it was OK for it to stick it's nose in other people's business. Nobody has any real interest in the truth coming to light, Isreal doesn't want the world to know that it used being attacked by Egypt as an excuse to seize Syrian land it'd wanted for a while that after they got they spent years building settlements on, and the US doesn't want the world to know that it was siding with both sides if a conflict because then it'd look like the US was instigating a war trying to destabilize the middle east for the sake of oil, nobody has any interest in the truth coming out and that's why over a half century later the USS Liberty incident has no clear answers from anyone about what happened.
Backshees was an ex Romanian Ju-88 that defected to Cyprus in July 1943 with a Romanian pilot named Nicolae teodoru. The plane is now displayed at National Museum of the United States air Force.
That truly must have been a treat to fly this to the U.S.A. Gotta give credit where credit is due, MOST German engineering to this day is the finest in the world. I sure hope they figure out the Fusion energy project they are working on, I know they are close to figuring it out.
The FuG 220 SN2 was not jam proof. It operated on another set of frequencys but some of them were jammed during the war. Together with nachtfee and Erstling device the radar could distinguish between enemy and friendly planes and automatically fire the guns when in range of the target.
Very interesting for me. Mostly because I literally have a room full or parts from a downed JU188 (not sure which specific variant yet) at my house. Panels, access hatches, oxygen tanks both steel triple sphere and and alloy welding bottle type. Perspex from the canopy pluse the alloy parts holding it together. Its ongoing and I am convinced that the engines are on this site too.
My first thought is that it is a good thing that Hitler was obsessed with the newest biggest thing rather than just producing as many of these as possible. If the materials and resources put into massive Railway guns and extremely heavy tanks had been put into producing these airplanes he may have won.
I've loved the Ju-88 since I was a little boy. Easily the most versatile warplane in all of history, its resume was truly impressive... medium bomber dive bomber torpedo bomber heavy fighter night fighter tank killer reconnaissance barrage balloon cutter training aircraft interceptor flying bomb
The Junkers JU-88, 188 variants looked very similar to the Dornier D17 variants, and also the ME110, 210, and 410. No doubt the three different companies had been given very specific design requirements by the Luftwaffe command as it would have been very doubtful that the aircraft would have looked that similar if designed separately by all three companies.
The more I observe the gains that the Germans made in war technology, the more I think the Allied Forces were lucky to win the war. If the U.S. hadn't ramped up production and choked off Germany's access to raw materials we might have lost.
Yeah, but the Allies also included Russia at the time. Germany was squeezed between two fronts. I think that after the Britt's were well and truly beaten all the way back to Normandy, that's the time that US help was most crucial, leading up to D-Day.
Even though the Germans were known for overly engineering their equipment and this was no exception to this claim. The fact that this aircraft was capable of running long enough to make a transatlantic journey on its own is just to show us that even though the German aircraft were suffering huge losses to "mechanical" failures, this was mainly in part due to the lack of real gasoline and the synthetic fuels and oils which Germany had to rely upon was a little on the touchy side. Some batches if too old had lost their flammability or octane ratings due to the evaporative nature of their synthetic fuels at this time. This was highly important for aircraft engines that required higher octane fuel and a good lubricating oil which both were non available thanks to the embargos placed upon Germany once the war started. Making their synthetic fuels from coal as well as synthetic rubber was Germanys biggest feat when it came to winning any sorts of wars. Without these natural resources, it should have totally crippled the Germans from progressing. But because they had such brilliant scientists and the slave labor of millions of people, this was what gave them the upper hand in the wars progression. Though they were losing more aircraft to bad fuel or lack of fuel, over actually being lost in battle, somehow they were able to endure??? SMFH The fact they had to rape, rob, pillage or steal anything worth of value from any of their concured countries, this was only enough to buy the Germans a small amount of time. In the meantime the allies were bombing their smaller cities in hopes they'd take out the smaller factories producing parts for their aircraft and guns. But the Germans being one step ahead already had plans for this, with hundreds of thousands of salve laborers digging miles of tunnels in solid rock in the mountains of Poland, and Germany, they were planning on moving everything which had any relevance to the war efforts underground. The fact that they actually accomplished some of these goals while fighting wars on every front is nothing short of amazing! But many tens of thousands of slaves were worked to death In this process and unfortunately the ones who lived and made it to the end of these projects were ultimately shot or gassed to keep the secrets safe...... sickening process and beyond inhumane to say the least! Otherwise excellent video and it just proves that the Germans could build a good aircraft which probably could have been capable of reaching the USA? With the work they were actually doing in nuclear research on reactors and weaponized atom bombs, we were getting close to our limits with who was going to get the final blows at the end of WWll. Luckily we had great success with creating a bomb in a quicker time than the Germans did. If in fact they were smarter and had a better equipmed leader than Hitler was? Say that Operation Barbarosa didn't occur until the defeat of England and the US? If they were to put it off a few years later on? And built up their defenses again while still working on the their nuclear weapons program, by this time, they could have probably produced a weapon capable of leveling NYC and DC like Hitler was planning on? By then they would have had access to oil again and could have easily equipped their aircraft to make it across the Atlantic to the US. Dumb little things like this is exactly what could have changed the outcome of WWll In probably a couple years. But thank God in this dimension of time this didn't occur?! Otherwise we'd probably not be here speaking English right now!
'Baksheesh' is also the Term for a governmental bribe like you pay to a policeman before he tickets you for speeding. "Something for nothing" may be an accurate Farci translation but doesn't cover its most common use. It is used widely in Türkey as well for bribery like 'speed money' you pay governmental gatekeepers to process your business quickly.
Designed as a dive bomber and served with distinction as a level bomber, recon plane, night fighter, torpedo bomber and for ground attack - the 88 was what Germans call an "all singing, all dancing" machine.
3000kg bombload is a pretty good performance for a twin engine. Physics do not alow much better. Considering the power limitations linked to the german fuel, their engine performance were reaching the limites of what was possible and so all their New types were plagged with that. Whereas the allies could develop 2500 or 2800hp engines because of better avgaz
German rearmament was initiated in US. The great example is JU-88 and further development in to JU-188.... JU-88 was designed and wind tunnel tested in US soil... There are more of weapon and transport systems designed and tested or even produced in US,...
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Heej, nice to see you here too 👍
The Ju88 and the D17 where the first Luftwaffe kits I ever built,and after the Lancaster,Wellington and typhoon,they are still my favourite aircraft to this day,
Love those Typhoons, that's my favorite British fighter.
And as an added bonus the great Ken Adam flew them, if it wasn't for him the James Bond movies wouldn't even have been close to what they were.
During an interview here on TH-cam in a documentary about Typhoons he talks about getting hit one time when he was attacking a ground target, he said "I had a hole in my left leg and my left eye was bleeding, aside from that I was OK", man what a bad ass.
The HE 219 UHU may very well be the best looking twin engine aircraft of the war. I have a kit that I only got partially completed.
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What kind of kit? Model? RC Airplane? Lego?
@@dukecraig2402 Plastic (?) model airplane. 1/72 scale. Tamiya made I think. Never seen an RC UHU.
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Tamia makes nice models.
An RC one would be cool, I'll bet if you look around on TH-cam someone's built one, I've seen SR71's and just about anything else you can name built and flown by those guy's.
Good video, I never knew about the one sent to Wright Field. The Ju-188 is one of my favourite planes. I wish flight sims (not War Thunder) had this plane. Its canopy shape and features have always fascinated me. As far as I know, the top turret was electrically operated. The video kind of touched on this but the Ju-88 airframe really was ubiquitous. It was a decent plane, versatile and fast.
Just curious but why doesn't War Thunder count? Do you mean sims like Flight Simulator?
@@michaelhowell2326 War Thunder doesn't try to simulate the systems of a plane properly, so no having to manage things like engine controls, radio navigation etc. It also has a fairly basic flight model. Its planes feel very similar, don't exhibit any unique turning and stall characteristics and clearly have very simplified handling, probably to make things like arcade mode and flying with a mouse+keyboard work well. It's really an arcade game where you can fly something that looks a bit like a certain plane and that's fine, but it's not for me.
@@michaelhowell2326 i think he is leaning towards sims like il2 battle of series, il2 cliffs of Dover blitz, or DCS for sims that are far more realistic then war thunder. We finally have the Me-410 in il2 BoX so its at least possible
@@michaelhowell2326 i like war thunder im not good at it but i like it
@@fraggsta you're almost right. The war thunder flight model feels that way due to the digital flight instructor. Each aircraft has its own unique flight model and with full real controls the game has a feel the rivals most flight sims.
dorsal and ventral are opposite. dorsal on the back (top) Ventral under the belly (bottom). A dorsal ventral position is impossible.
That baffled me too!
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Dark's copywriter has always been a slacker.
Not gonna lie. Never knew that.
I was just about to post a ber ber ber u got it wrong as a jk but u beat me to it. They do their best 5 channels videos daily I'm sure there is like 5 or more writers if not they r being taxed n will make mistakes time to time like this. Or the video editor shows the wrong plane or tank. Poop happens but we still enjoy their hard work right...
the 188 is a very cool plane
No way!
Literally last night I learned about this plane because I was curious about the history of BMW's logo. It isn't actually based on propellers in the sky, but I still went down the rabbit hole and landed on the Wiki page for the JU-88.
Thank you for not trotting out that old tale! ( for those unaware, I believe the blue and white quadrants of the roundel are from the Barvarian flag, but one can be forgiven for seeing a propeller disk)
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I found that out last night! It seems that the myth started because of an old commercial that used the propellers of a plane, but the commercial came out long after the logo had been designed. Which you're right about it being based on the flag.
Another auto manufacturer story I find interesting is that I was wondering why the Italian named ’Bugatti’ was a French automaker when the majority of famous automakers from Europe are either German or Italian.
It turns out that Bugatti is barely french:
It was created by an Italian in a place that at the time belonged to Germany. Only later did it become part of France.
The beautiful Ju-188 is one of my favourite bombers but also the less graceful Ju-88. If I recall correctly the Ju-188 could have been putted in production earlier but the RLM still remained unconvinced that the small improvement in performance over the existing A-5's and future A-4's was worth investing time in. But in reality the Ju-188 was generally improved as it was also fitted with extended wings but it was never produced in great numbers both because of the production of the Ju-88 and of course the ever increasing bombings of the German industry. Although it was an excellent and versatile airplane it's greatest drawback was that the bomb load was never been really improved with the Ju-188 and the Ju-88 and the incapability to provide much more powerful engines but not like the awful
DB 606 "power system"..
I perfer the Donier 'pencil'.... and so did my oncle Karl , during the Battle of Britian ....
The Dornier Do 17 sometimes referred to as the Fliegender Bleistift ("flying pencil") was popular among its crews due to its excellent handling, especially at low altitude, which made the bomber harder to hit than other German bombers. Unfortunately it was fitted with the mediocre Bramo 323 with equally mediocre bomb load. An honest and elegant bomber....
Yup, that was a brilliant post, never heard of this variant. Thank you.
I have pictures of the ju 388 from the war. They are from my fathers army Air corps unit. Captured in Germany and examined by by fathers unit and flown to Wright Patterson.
The Ju 388 like the Ju 188 is an evolution of the Ju 88. The Ju 388 added a pressurized cockpit and had powerful new engines such as the BMW 801TJ (the turbocharged variant) that allowed a service ceiling of over 44,000ft and the Jumo 222E/F with a speed of 444mph. Also had remote tail armament.
what memories this brings back to me ! When I was a child, around 1967, I had gone to the Smithsonian and had seen this bomber or the 88 version. I fell in love with it and still have the photo I took of this beautiful design albeit the wings were still missing. Looking in the cockpit then assimlates present day video games. Thanks for all of the fantastic vids ! 11/13/22@11:30
It's amazing we are only 33 years removed from the Wright brothers first flight here.
So much of aviation is like that - the the moon in less than 70!
This was the time when the me163 scraped on the soumdbarrier.
The 30s and 40s were so important for aircraft development
The Ju 88 S & T models I believe were developed either concurrently or just after the 188. They were actually superior to the 188 and were getting replaced by the superlative 388 at wars end. Great video!!
In what sense do either the 88 or 188 have a "mosquito-shaped" cockpit?
Profile looks just like mosquito
There’s an Allied plane called the Mosquito developed later they were both active during the end of the war. He could have been referencing it as the airframe is very similar. The actual nickname for its front glass was “beetle eyes” however
I have the impression that they refer to the insect, not to the RAF's Wooden Wonder. It does not seem to me to be the latter.
Great video, many thanks. What a very generous gift this was to the RAF. Hitler had a fascination with dive bombing and the requirement for the JU88 to also be a dive bomber hampered it's R & D process somewhat. However to Junker's credit they were still able to turn it into an excellent platform as a multi role aircraft.
It wasn't Hitler who was obsessed with divebombing, it was Ernst Udet, Quartermaster general of the Luftwaffe, so much so that he insisted that the Heinkel HE 177 should be dive capable.
@@daveanderson3805 Thanks for the info!
Exactly the same thing happened to the ME-262. It was supposed to be an air superiority fighter, but the demand to make it a multi-role fighter/bomber took away from its fighter capability. In addition, redesigning it into a fighter/bomber caused it to enter the war far too late to make any significant impact.
Worse still, the ME-262 was meant to be piloted by top aces, but the redesign meant it entered the war when Germany was running low on aces, let alone top aces.
The final nail in the coffin is the ME-262 entered the war at the time when Germany was relying on what I can only describe as "desperation weapons," constructed of whatever materials you could still access, piloted by whomever could fly a plane, basically Germany's last-ditch attempts at throwing SOMETHING at the Allies. As a result, the ME-262 was not made of top-tier materials, did not have top-tier equipment, and the engines were barely-functional at all.
If the ME-262 had been the air superiority fighter it was meant to be, it would have entered the war on time, been piloted by the top aces it was meant for, and would have been constructed with fully top-of-the-line materials and hardware. Just imagine the impact it would have made.
I guess the lessons learned is to stay out of matters you don't know anything about. Leave designs alone. Allow them to be what they were intended to be.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy In this case it was Hitler who demanded that the plane, 262 could carry bombs, in spite of the fact that most realized it was far better as a fighter. Adolf Galland was allowed to collect a group for this, also with famous topscoring Ace, Erich Hartmann. He preferred though to go back to the Eastern Front.
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy Despite Hitler's best efforts there were apparently 1200 completed ME 262's at the end of the war. Most were languishing in rail sidings and dispatch fields. Of the few hundred that did make it to active service, they were severely limited in fuel. Ironically, the most advanced aircraft of the war was frequently pulled to the flight-line by oxen.
Hitler clearly wasn't interested in winning. His generals had already won the war at Dunkirk in 1940.
Awesome and insightful video as always!
The JU 88 was probably the best two engine fighter bomber during the whole war.
B25 Mitchell is #1
de Havilland Mosquito ?
@@johnlefucker9323 that’s not a fighter bomber, just cos it has frontal guns doesn’t mean it’s a fighter bomber, somthing like the mosquito could do well shooting down aircraft in its attacker variants (having a mix of 20mm’s and 7.7’s or a 57mm and 7.7’s) while the bomber variant with a glass nose for dropping bombs or when working with Lancaster’s obersevation flares
My vote goes to the B-26 Marauder.
Cough, Mosquito, cough.
The aricraft flown to Dayton, Ohio during the war was a Ju88D and is still there. No 188.
You had me at Ju-88.
Apart from the Ju188, the Ju88G6 was my favourite out of the Junkers series of bombers.
Man, that Luftwaffe pilot had some STONES. Ditto for the AAF pilots who flew it from Cyprus. It's a DOUBLE miracle it did not get shot down.
What are you talking about? The Ju-188 was only replaced in part in reconnaissance roles by the Ju-388. The JU-188 was never replaced by the Ju-388 in its main role as a bomber, not even in limited numbers. The JU-388K version (K being the bomber version version of the Ju-388) never entered series production with only 11 being built (10 K-1s and 1 K-2, the latter never flew).
Most of the German bomber program was shut down towards the end of the war. u 188E and Ju 188A production was shutdown completely with the engines going to Fw 190A and Fw 190D9 production respectively. The the Ju 88G series night fighters and perhaps some Ju 88 S-1, S-2,S-3 fast bombers stayed in production. The Ju 188 and Ju 88G and Ju 88S used the same extended strengthen wings, engines and square tail. The Ju 88G-7 was a pretty fast night fighter. The production program of the Luftwaffe at the end of the war was Me 262, He 162, Ar 23 jets and the Do 335 and Ju 388 piston aircraft The piston aircraft were needed because they could operate at ranges and altitudes not possible for the jets.
As you say the Ju 388L reconnaissance aircraft entered service but the Ju 388K bomber and Ju 388J high altitude nightfighter (to tackle the B-29) were not far off.
In the end all piston aircraft were cancelled.
Looks more like a dragonfly than a mosquito to me.
one of my favorite aircraft of WWII
Loved the quote at the end! Very fitting for German tech...although I wasn't aware that the 188 had autopilot! It must've been a gyroscopic-based system similar to what made the torpedoes and V1's travel at a level and true course?
Kreiselkompass
I heard the Japanese had a human-guided torpedo, 'manned' by a young kamikaze boy. Just... sick!
I imagine they solved the procession problem with a chronometer.
@@peterweller8583 the Fernkurskreisel Lk4 (1940) and the Mutterkompass (1944) think thats the Autopilot from Siemens.
I like the quote at the beginning, "'Following Hitler's "rise" to power...", that's a an awfully nice way of putting that, and here I thought his birthday was April 20th not August 11th.
Great vid man👍. Thanks!
Hope we kept it intact. Would love to see this at WP Ohio
Outstanding video and presentation of my favorite variant of the JU 88/JU 188 family.
Beautiful aircraft.
388も、凄いですね❗️
Outstanding video and presentation. My favorite German bomber. Beautiful.
"Too many damned gadgets" is probably the best praise the Junker(idk how to spell it) engineers could hear
@@evanbeers1644 Junkers is the name
@@964cuplove aight
Mine too , my brother built a model of it when I was 6 and I mistakingly called it ju88bis lol I got my Soviets and Germans mixed up
Nice - the Ju 88 was one of my first impressions of the Luftwaffe-Bombers
Luckyly it wasn't available during Battle of Britain, but when the Luftwaffe attacked in early 1944( the Blitz) the air defences were largely improved, and a lot of these aircrafts were shot down by NF Mosquitoes.
I think the 1944 campaign was called Steinbock operation and The Blitz was in 1940. But im not sure
@@j4armenta you're right, in some books Operation Steinbock was called the "Baby Blitz", and, except for civilians' losses, it didn't accomplished nothing and the Luftwaffe lost a LOT of bombers.
Dark skies.
At 2:55, a real "howler" of an inappropriate video clip. In discussion of Ju88 origins, we see an engineer holding what appears to be a four-jet-engine Boeing 707 airliner.
Of course, "Dark", the publisher, is simply testing us, to make sure we pay attention.
I really enjoy your ideas. Well researched and delivered.
The Ju88 was classed as a schnell bomber.
Baksheesh roughly translates as 'Gift in monetary terms' in return for services.
There was a special version build ,the Ju188T.
It could fly up to 700km/h!
That is the speed of a P51 with war emergency power on.
My friend and I are developing a game based on WW2, mainly the European theater. He's doing the map, units, rules, and minutia, while I try and keep the rules edited. It's based on the framework of Avalon Hills Blitzkrieg game, but much more elegant so far. He's making it extremely playable with introductory scenarios and an interesting naval system. The one thing that has given him fits have been the Luftwaffe's range problems. I've been sending him these articles to help him get a better grip on that, and he sent me the first map and sets of units. I think it's going to be a great cross between Third Reich and Blitzkrieg, the only thing holding us up is he moved to Palm Bay Florida, and I stayed in Maryland. If you're interested, his name is Chris Beaton, and any help is welcome. Im still absorbing the last batch of rules, but I don't think this game will be unplayable.
" More damn gadgets than I've ever seen!" Thank you once again for your never disappointing and always professional videos.
Mind boggling isn't it?
What did he mean by heavy and vicious?
@@paulmccarthy8658 Having listened to that quotation by our narrator again, I believe he meant that it was the plane itself that was both heavy in all that it carried as an aircraft, but that what it actually did carry was indeed very deadly to its opponents.
Sounds like a 2022 BMW or Mercedes.
Outstanding as usual.
Very versatile aircraft.
I'm curious about the plane turnstile. Perfect way to show off new planes!
"Boxing" the onboard magnetic compass.....
i.e. aligning the compass in the aircraft accurately....
What became of this plane? Is it is some sort of storage, in parts? Does it even still exist?
"Something for nothing" that was a humorous nickname for a brand new German bomber.
It makes no sense, bakshish means 'bribe', 'tip', 'kickback'
That was just getting really interesting at the end, then it suddenly stopped without any further detail . . . 😳
I always loved the 188!
I would love to see an episode on the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. So many rumors and theories stick to the event and I would like to hear your take.
I doubt you'd get an accurate account from these guys.
The attack on the Liberty was deliberate, it was a response to the US giving intelligence, I believe in the form of high altitude/satellite imagery, to one of Israel's enemies during the Six Day War in 1967, an event that was going on when the Liberty was attacked.
The US opposed Isreal attacking Syria and seizing the Golan Heights after the Six Day War had begun, Isreal had been wanting the Golan Heights for some time as a buffer zone between them and Syria and was going to use the attack on them by the Egyptians as an excuse to attack and seize the Golan Heights which they'd had in their crosshairs for a while, the US knew of their intentions to do it and wherein it sided with Isreal on defending it's being attacked by Egypt and even fed them intelligence on Egyptian positions via high altitude imagery taken by an SR71 that was dispatched to do so it was also feeding intelligence to Syria to help them stop Isreal from taking the Golan Heights. Somehow, probably a Mossad mole in US intelligence, Isreal knew about the US feeding Syria that intelligence so the attack on the USS Liberty was, shall we say, a message to keep it's nose in it's own business, unless of course it was feeding Isreal intelligence on Egyptian positions then it was OK for it to stick it's nose in other people's business.
Nobody has any real interest in the truth coming to light, Isreal doesn't want the world to know that it used being attacked by Egypt as an excuse to seize Syrian land it'd wanted for a while that after they got they spent years building settlements on, and the US doesn't want the world to know that it was siding with both sides if a conflict because then it'd look like the US was instigating a war trying to destabilize the middle east for the sake of oil, nobody has any interest in the truth coming out and that's why over a half century later the USS Liberty incident has no clear answers from anyone about what happened.
Backshees was an ex Romanian Ju-88 that defected to Cyprus in July 1943 with a Romanian pilot named Nicolae teodoru. The plane is now displayed at National Museum of the United States air Force.
Always interesting and informative!
That truly must have been a treat to fly this to the U.S.A. Gotta give credit where credit is due, MOST German engineering to this day is the finest in the world. I sure hope they figure out the Fusion energy project they are working on, I know they are close to figuring it out.
This plane is so cute and cool
The FuG 220 SN2 was not jam proof.
It operated on another set of frequencys but some of them were jammed during the war.
Together with nachtfee and Erstling device the radar could distinguish between enemy and friendly planes and automatically fire the guns when in range of the target.
As someone who has a thing for greenhouse style canopies...I think it's quite sexy actually. Would make a splendid scratch RC build...or kit.
Very interesting for me. Mostly because I literally have a room full or parts from a downed JU188 (not sure which specific variant yet) at my house. Panels, access hatches, oxygen tanks both steel triple sphere and and alloy welding bottle type. Perspex from the canopy pluse the alloy parts holding it together. Its ongoing and I am convinced that the engines are on this site too.
My first thought is that it is a good thing that Hitler was obsessed with the newest biggest thing rather than just producing as many of these as possible. If the materials and resources put into massive Railway guns and extremely heavy tanks had been put into producing these airplanes he may have won.
I've loved the Ju-88 since I was a little boy. Easily the most versatile warplane in all of history, its resume was truly impressive...
medium bomber
dive bomber
torpedo bomber
heavy fighter
night fighter
tank killer
reconnaissance
barrage balloon cutter
training aircraft
interceptor
flying bomb
The aircraft that is in the usaf museum is a ju-88 NOT a ju-188 as claimed in this video.
388?
ju188 cool aircraft!
The Junkers JU-88, 188 variants looked very similar to the Dornier D17 variants, and also the ME110, 210, and 410. No doubt the three different companies had been given very specific design requirements by the Luftwaffe command as it would have been very doubtful that the aircraft would have looked that similar if designed separately by all three companies.
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Very good video! Would you ever do a video on the He-219 uhu?
The more I observe the gains that the Germans made in war technology, the more I think the Allied Forces were lucky to win the war. If the U.S. hadn't ramped up production and choked off Germany's access to raw materials we might have lost.
Yeah, but the Allies also included Russia at the time. Germany was squeezed between two fronts. I think that after the Britt's were well and truly beaten all the way back to Normandy, that's the time that US help was most crucial, leading up to D-Day.
Excellent documentary!
I would have said it looks like a dragonfly, not a mosquito.
Excellent video. I am left wondering still, exactly what did he mean by "most vicious"?
Even though the Germans were known for overly engineering their equipment and this was no exception to this claim. The fact that this aircraft was capable of running long enough to make a transatlantic journey on its own is just to show us that even though the German aircraft were suffering huge losses to "mechanical" failures, this was mainly in part due to the lack of real gasoline and the synthetic fuels and oils which Germany had to rely upon was a little on the touchy side. Some batches if too old had lost their flammability or octane ratings due to the evaporative nature of their synthetic fuels at this time. This was highly important for aircraft engines that required higher octane fuel and a good lubricating oil which both were non available thanks to the embargos placed upon Germany once the war started. Making their synthetic fuels from coal as well as synthetic rubber was Germanys biggest feat when it came to winning any sorts of wars. Without these natural resources, it should have totally crippled the Germans from progressing. But because they had such brilliant scientists and the slave labor of millions of people, this was what gave them the upper hand in the wars progression. Though they were losing more aircraft to bad fuel or lack of fuel, over actually being lost in battle, somehow they were able to endure??? SMFH The fact they had to rape, rob, pillage or steal anything worth of value from any of their concured countries, this was only enough to buy the Germans a small amount of time. In the meantime the allies were bombing their smaller cities in hopes they'd take out the smaller factories producing parts for their aircraft and guns. But the Germans being one step ahead already had plans for this, with hundreds of thousands of salve laborers digging miles of tunnels in solid rock in the mountains of Poland, and Germany, they were planning on moving everything which had any relevance to the war efforts underground. The fact that they actually accomplished some of these goals while fighting wars on every front is nothing short of amazing! But many tens of thousands of slaves were worked to death In this process and unfortunately the ones who lived and made it to the end of these projects were ultimately shot or gassed to keep the secrets safe...... sickening process and beyond inhumane to say the least! Otherwise excellent video and it just proves that the Germans could build a good aircraft which probably could have been capable of reaching the USA? With the work they were actually doing in nuclear research on reactors and weaponized atom bombs, we were getting close to our limits with who was going to get the final blows at the end of WWll. Luckily we had great success with creating a bomb in a quicker time than the Germans did. If in fact they were smarter and had a better equipmed leader than Hitler was? Say that Operation Barbarosa didn't occur until the defeat of England and the US? If they were to put it off a few years later on? And built up their defenses again while still working on the their nuclear weapons program, by this time, they could have probably produced a weapon capable of leveling NYC and DC like Hitler was planning on? By then they would have had access to oil again and could have easily equipped their aircraft to make it across the Atlantic to the US. Dumb little things like this is exactly what could have changed the outcome of WWll In probably a couple years. But thank God in this dimension of time this didn't occur?! Otherwise we'd probably not be here speaking English right now!
I wouldn't want to fly in a captured plane during war. I'd be afraid of getting shot down, even in Dayton Ohio!
Does any know know what happened to this aircraft after a World War ii? And can you do any videos of the Blom and Voss 141?
Awesome episode. I never heard of this plane, that was flown to the US. :D
JU-88 was only Finnish bomber which shot down by German fighter in Lapland war.
Fantastic!!
Few would argue that the Mosquito was THE oustanding combat aircraft of WW2, but he Ju88-188-388 series ran it a close second.
"Few would argue" - here come the Britoons...
@@Page-Hendryx Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering wouldn't disagree either...
Ahem. Me262?
@@pommunist Well there's a mythos that you people have to believe in. It's OK; I understand.
@@Page-Hendryx Perhaps, but it is a nice story.
Heaven forbid that some one notifies AA crews to expect it!🤨
"If it ain't over-engineered, it ain't German".
LOL! Also, "why simple, when you can make it complicated?"
The Channel is awesome
5:18 - a dorsal rear-facing ventral position??? Dorsal = on the top, ventral = underneath
'Baksheesh' is also the Term for a governmental bribe like you pay to a policeman before he tickets you for speeding. "Something for nothing" may be an accurate Farci translation but doesn't cover its most common use. It is used widely in Türkey as well for bribery like 'speed money' you pay governmental gatekeepers to process your business quickly.
That's right, it's usually associated with bribes... possibly also in the form of a gift. Which is a fitting name for the aircraft in question then. 😉
Designed as a dive bomber and served with distinction as a level bomber, recon plane, night fighter, torpedo bomber and for ground attack - the 88 was what Germans call an "all singing, all dancing" machine.
Within the Luftwaffe in WWII, it was referred to as the "Maiden of all work".
The very first Airfix model I made. I think I was about 7? I should try another one day!
The crews behind the anti-aircraft guns at Wright Field were also concerned by the presence of a Navy sailor wearing a Talkar helmet??
Grate video I love planes
Probably the most versatile aircraft of WW2, the Ju88, Ju188, Ju288 and I think there was a Ju388 on the drawing board. Correct me please if you wish!
I enjoyed this a lot. Then found out of another bubble bomber by Stearman in the US, the XA-21!!!
This video does not have shitty clickbait ,idiotic red circles nor arrows thus I will watch and like this video.
The Germans made awesome machines during WWII.
my favorite... the Schwimmwagen! 👍🏼
Are there any examples of these airplanes that exist today?
The 188 was barely an improvement over the 88, especially in bombload, but what with the 288 going tits up the Luftwaffe had to accept a stopgap.
The development of the Bf 110 replacement sure didn't help either. Or all of the opposing aircraft that just kept coming in ever growing numbers
5500 lb is the theoretical bomb load of ju88 not much different
3000kg bombload is a pretty good performance for a twin engine. Physics do not alow much better.
Considering the power limitations linked to the german fuel, their engine performance were reaching the limites of what was possible and so all their New types were plagged with that.
Whereas the allies could develop 2500 or 2800hp engines because of better avgaz
Great Plane
A video about Tornado variable swept wing twin seat twin engine fighter bomber could be very nice
Not sure why but every time I look at that plane I think of Flash Gordon , the old series from the 30's .
I hope sometime you’d be able to make a video on the P2V’s or P4M-1’s ;~;
If the "lector" didn't eat hot potatoes while he 'reads', it would be more OK
Units that have Ju-188 are KG54 LG1 KG66 and KG2
"... the most damn gadgets I've ever seen."
Go on.
Typically German engineering!
Yea im missing that part in this movie
Every BMW I've had.
Says a fighter pilot who never took a seat in a twin engine multi role ac.
gracias
4:22 - barely differed from the Ju 88 ... apart from the wings, fuselage, tail and engines
Cockpit
Everything is different between the 88 and the 188, that one reason it arrived lately.
German rearmament was initiated in US. The great example is JU-88 and further development in to JU-188....
JU-88 was designed and wind tunnel tested in US soil...
There are more of weapon and transport systems designed and tested or even produced in US,...
Narrator, you've improved your speed of talk, slower so we can understand you now. Thank you.
Trueh worth
ju88. my favorite bomber in war thunder
“A dorsal rear facing ventral position.”
Really, how’s that work?