Been on all day with my stihl ms 181 , pull , pull ,pull , tried spray start , sputtered , good spark , I had topped up petrol , air cfilter clean , was ready to give up take it to dealer , checked youtube yet again and came across piddler , tipped out all petrol and checked fuel filter , clean , put in fresh mix , started 3 rd pull , what a relief . Thanks so much .
Another simple thing to check if it won’t start/stay running. Pull the muffler off and check the spark arrester screen. If that’s plugged it won’t run right either.
Actually, it takes 4 things to run an engine. The one you forgot was compression. When you check for spark, put your thumb over the spark plug hole and pull the cord slowly. You'll be able to tell if you have compression.
Great video, very straightforward and accurate but I would definitely add "Did you flood it?" at the start of all this. I fix saws that are used by firefighters, so for those of you that consider it "abuse" of a good saw to do things like leave old gas in it, forget to clean the air filter or change the spark plug every so often, you would be traumatized if you could see what my babies have to go through. While I agree compression is a key element, it's not always a likely problem if the saw was running fine the last time you used it. Checking these three things (four if you just stick your thumb over the hole while you're checking spark) will tell you what's wrong with your saw most of the time... unless you're like me and you need additional items on the checklist like: - Did you clear the cylinder after Jackwaggin McGee flooded it with about 40 pulls? - Is the bar oil compartment full of gas? - Is the gas in the bar oil compartment unleaded, or diesel? - Is the gas in the fuel tank green? - Is the fuel line blocked because the filter body is mysteriously gone and debris is jammed on the end of the tube instead? - Did someone give the air filter a heavy handed "oil bathing" because they believe this is the type of system that needs that? - Did somebody have a grand ol' time turning all of the carburetor screws in every direction and give up when nothing did what they expected it to? P.S. ~ In case you're wondering, yes, all of these have true stories behind them.
Great video. My brother gave me his Stihl O44, because he could not pull start it. The compression was so strong that he could not pull it fast enough. It has a new spark plug, fresh fuel. I managed to get it to fire, but it would not continue to run and quit before I could get to the throttle control. When it runs it is a monster. the spark plug looks new and the air and fuel filters look good. it may be safer if I remove the bar and chain when attempting to start.
You did a great job. May I just make a small suggestion ? If you want to make clear it is necessary to change something, show what the old one did or didn't and what the new one does. It will make it easier to understand WHY it has to be done. God bless for this great video
You were absolutely correct. Put the wrong gas in and all went to crap. Dumped it out and started over with the right gas. Third pull it was running. Thank You
Yes! Fresh gas mix! I'm lucky that both my weed eaters and all my chainsaws use 32:1. I mix 2 gal at a time in my small round metal can and use it until it's almost gone and dispose of the rest (usually about 8oz). Every time before pouring I stir it by swishing the can (two shooter marbles in the can). This has always worked for me to keep the mix consistent. Some plastic cans I've tried don't work for this because the marble plugs the spout when you pour.
Funny, in all my years trying to keep my saws running, never tried removing a spark plug with the Scrench. Always went digging for my spark plug sockets. Thanks.
Yes the scrench was designed for that but most guys do toss in a spot they think they can find it. Everyone tends to overtorque Like the gas and oil caps there are prob 1000 theories I think they vibrate theirselves tighter. IDK
Hi from UK My local Engineer whom I've known 15 years serviced my saw, put on new coil etc , I paid 200 dollars,.......still won't start, although he managed it when I took it back..........I now intend to do your 3 things , I don't wanna fall out with him, but at 72, I need a chainsaw to start quickly ..Thanks again.
I have a brand new Stihl I bought last year and used about 5 times for less than an hour each time that now won't start. I have to confess, it still has fuel from last fall in it. I'm gonna put fresh fuel in it first and go through each step until I get it started. It Will start! Thanks for sharing these tips with us!
This video has got me super motivated to fix my saw, a Poulan Pro less than 1 year old and wouldn't stay running. Now after I messed with the H and L screws it won't even start. Maybe old gas? First thing I'm gong to try.
Of course he did he's a Stihl fan... start over with the tuning and go from there I'm sure it's fine! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
The sound of the running chainsaw makes me want to play doom. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to check these 3 components out on my own non-running chainsaw (2 years sitting) and see if I can get it going again without a professional needing to work on it.
I'm sure you can I sure appreciate you watching and joining the channel! If need be check out my How to actually tune a chainsaw video th-cam.com/video/eA2jEGJCrZ4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! My beloved daddy passed away last November and I have his chain saw now and it won't run. Your video gives me hope that I'll get it running again soon.
Storage condition. In addition to running all the fuel out don’t forget to loosen the chain a few turns. This saves your crankshaft seals during storage. I also pour out all the gas and add a few ounces of Stihl Moto Mix to the tank and let this gas cycle through the saw until it runs out. Then I put the saw in the full choke position and pull it until it fails to roll over. This gets the last bit of gas out of the system. I do leave the bar oil tank full of bar oil because they have been know to develop cracks if left without oil in them. I clean the oil tanks out with kerosene once a year as part of my regular pm program.
god bless ive just brought a stilh 291 and i was haveing a promble geting it to start and when you said pull till you feel it resest thats when it will start thanks a million god bless
did the spark test. No spark. All connections looked good. Took apart the housing where the start / stop switch is. Totally filthy. There was no contact for the start switch. cleaned it and boom! Started. Happy Camper.
Won't hurt a bit! Watch this episode where I discuss Ethanol th-cam.com/video/13ZV2Z1xeH4/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Good tips. I only bring 1 large fuel can to the gas station. It gets fuel stabiliser in it before I go. I then decant from that can for all my power equipment into smaller cans for mixed fuel.
You are spot on! Petrol industry should be shot for producing a fuel that will cause you headaches and unnecessary repairs! Great video! Covered the basics and the most common problems. Thumbs up.
Amen on the fuel. Many a friend spent hours cranking boats , wheelers , etc n were too stubborn to accept simply their fuel was stale. Pull a sample n won’t light with a bic.
If you have a marina near by, get your fuel there.Most marinas use non ethanol fuel so it wont rot the rubber fuel system parts.......oh and make sure the spark arrester is not plugged....
I always forget about TH-cam when Im balls deep in something that should be working. Of course I did exactly what I was taught not to which is use old gas. Which is why it probably wasn’t starting. Then I of course then I moved right on to the air filter pulled it and opened it up to blow it out. I Didn’t realize it came as 1 piece and could of bought a new one. I could only think I needed another person to pull the cord so I could use a paper clip to check spark between plug and wire. After cleaning the whole saw and insuring screws were tight I took it to the shop. I inherited that 028 WB from my dad and I had it rebuilt 4-5 years ago and it usually runs like champ. Your video was great I wish I would of checked it out sooner.
Thanks for this video. I know the basics of engines but when I work on computers all day I forget. For sure if the gas is more than 30 days old or if you don't know how old is....USE FRESH GAS!
KISS never ever use ethanol fuel in a 2 stroke PERIOD 95% of your problems are already solved echo says if you use ethanol fuel the warranty is VOID and the 3 things you need is compression , spark and fuel great video keep on keepin on
After watching your other video with the Husky 455 and how to tune, I started cleaning it up and although not a part of your video, I found a lot of build up in the muffler, and man what a hard removal....they must have used an impact wrench to torque in the bolts...went ahead and ordered proper screwdrivers from your link to adjust the settings for the carburetor and will be getting to that part when they come in....anyway you are 100% right about the gas...it is awful these days....I try to use only ethanol free, but it still is not the same as years ago. My neighbor has started to use only the premixed high dollar stuff, and he says it is worth it....he cuts a lot of firewood, so he uses more than the average Joe.
Fresh fuel is the key with a superior oil we use Red Armor oil from echo and any gas as long as it's fresh! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
It's in a separate video you should have seen that with your deep understanding 🤣 Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling! Heres the link to the Fuel filter episode... th-cam.com/video/brtOQnVZym0/w-d-xo.html
That's a fair comment. I thought the same thing. I was watching the guy, not the ad stuff on the screen. Why not just show it now if it makes a significant difference in the point of this video. Anyway, odd snide reply, on his part. But good video.
I know this is really basic stuff, but showing the tool used and technique for gapping a spark plug woulda helped too. Been so long since I've had to do that, I thought it was a bunch of MALARKEY! :P
My moms weed Wacker wouldnt start,im positive she bought 87 octane and it sat all winter so 3 or 4 months in a gas can,i confirmed it,weedwack didnt start,dumped it and put my fresh saw mix,couple primer bulb presses and 3 pulls it fired..old gas is definitely a thing
30 yrs ago I was a North West Coast Timber Feller we ran Stihl 075's and Husqvarna 100 super 6 1/2 hours a day 6 days a week. Stihl had NO manual chain oiler. Dogged into10 ft Sitka Spruce Snags broke a 404 chain in a week and Pooched a bar in less than a month. Husky = 6 weeks and 6 months respectively. If Husky wont start check type of fuel pickup. If fabric, toss it, replace with Stihl screen style. Running dry in a premix saw is not recommended. When your out of fuel your also out of lubrication. Use recommended oil with fuel stabilizer. At shut down hold throttle wide open while turning off, the excess fuel lubricates rings and cylinder. If run dry and stored dry, one may require new diaphragms that go hard if left long enough.. Insufficient compression is a silent and sudden culprit so check it B4 throwing parts at it. Recommend Premium non ethanol fuel. Shell V Power my go to but not from a blender pump if your anal like me. SAFE SAWING ALL!
Ok, two days in a row I’ve been able to get this Husky running. How? I watched a few more “How to Start Husqvarna Chainsaw” videos and one in particular stood out and showed things a bit differently than how I was doing it. Steps that enabled cold start: 1. Prime the fuel bulb 6x 2. Fully pull out the choke 3. Pull the starter MAX three times ( more than 3 pulls floods the engine) 4. Push choke 1/2 way in (hopefully you heard a slight almost start) 5. Pull starter until it starts 6. Squeeze the throttle, rev engine, and cut wood. Hope this helps others....since all I really changed was “starting technique” this might be others problems as well with Husqvarna saws. I plan to start daily, maybe twice daily, for a week or two just to have additional data points.
I took it into the stihi dealer more than once and still have the same problem. The dealer seems to be able start it every time I complain, yet the same starting problem happens when I get home. The gas is a month old and have tried replacing it without luck. Some of your other suggestions are worth trying for myself.
If more people in this world spoke as clearly and at a decent speed , while explaining things like you it would be fantastic . I am a bartender so I need clear direction. Thanks dude .
Justin sure appreciate the kind words & for ya taking the time to leave me a message! I try my best to keep it as simple as possible sonata the end you've actually learned something new! Keep me posted on what your working on and maybe I can lend a hand if ya need it!
Great video. I would like to mention that drop starting is not a safe practice nor is starting your chainsaw in an enclosed environment for obvious reasons.
i had a big stihl i could get my boot thru the handle opening and pin it to the ground and use both hands to pull the cord. it even had a decompression button to make pulling easier. if you didn't use that button, it would kick so hard it would almost pull your fingers off. now i have the one in the vid, opening is too small to put my shoe thru, and i drop pull it with no problems.
Love the info I’m working on my chainsaw s and I got them to run but the y won’t stay running lol I need a new Thank filter and new fuel line May god bless you with knowledge and wisdom my friend 😃👍👍👍
ANOTHER SOLUTION: For any other dolts out there...I worked for hours on mine, replaced the spark plug (despite getting sparks when testing my current one), changing the gas, etc. I finally started to bust in to the carburetor based on some other videos I saw to clean it up but noticed on the way after removing the air filter, that the little plastic hose that feeds gas to the engine behind the air filter had come undone, which is also why I saw excess gas collecting at the bottom of the chainsaw. Simply popped the hose back on to the little metal tube it is supposed to be attached to and voila! Hope this helps someone else.
You mean we not pose to take a hammer to it? Got to break mine down and see what her problem is. Almost sure the carb is plugged up. Been to lazy to mess with it..LOL Great tips buddy! Thanks for sharing these with us.
GIFTHO Good Information For The Home Owner, I'm a Banjo player too.Have two Husqvarna a 455 and a smaller one, burning the wood I processed last year as I write, nice and warm during the current ice storm we're having in New England 12/17/19. Cheers
Atta boy! Stay warm that passed by us last night enjoy! Hey thanks for stopping by and for watching! Hope ya subscribed and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Great video ! For those REALLY STUBBORN saws, weed eaters and so on ... that have carb issues, get the model and Number and go on EBay ! You can buy a NEW carb for around $10 !! I used to work at STIHL in Va Beach Va and would go through around 200 carbs in ONE SHIFT ... ( we ran EVERY saw in a test cell before packing and shipping them ) then there is the ethanol problem of course. ... $10 can save a LOT of aggravation !! just sayin" .... Keep up the great work. I'm sure you help a lot of people get their equipment running again !!
So much knowledge in what you just shared so thank you! You are correct ethanol is horrible for our small engines! The same tricks will work for buying a cheap carb to get it going then fine tune it! Thanks for watching!
Tom Jones in comments is right . Fuel with ethanol in it turns hygroscopic , meaning the fuel because of ethanol draws moisture from the air of it's surroundings . The water molecules are taken into the molecules of the fuel . The results are not good . Engine won't run right and sometimes not at all or won't idle or start . -------Ernest E. Johnson
There are three thing you need to getbabsawbrunning - compression, spark, fuel and in about that order. I do not disagree with what you said or did but compression is as much of an importance as the other two.
I just went through this with my 1980's Stihl 024 AV. If you have an older Stihl, pull your fuel line and check the diameter of the opening. My parts shop had the aftermarket listed as the ONLY fit. These fuel lines are made with a grommet to snug them in the opening, hard to feed through just right. After you get the grommet seated, you then grab line inside tank, pull and add the filter. The aftermarket fuel line grommet (7700) is WAY too wide for the opening on old school 024, 026s. You want the 7705. Once I got the "OEM" part number they were able to find one in stock. It's a short line, hard to connect to the carburetor without using hemostats. Glad my dad and brother's "schooled me", I have Ryobi on the table next...LOL
@@AmericanPiddler dropping my 1st dead 60 ft today, done lots of pines but they were alive and kind of naturally padded. This one has to go between two sheds about 25 ft apart....timber!
Hey Mate, all the way from Australia. I watched your clip and cant wait to try what you have shown us as i have two chainsaws that will not run. Thanks from down under ( Australia)
Forget ethanol fuel and most of your problems are gone. Sorry corn don't need you. Search online for the nearest non-eth seller. Boats and planes use non-eth not that hard to find. Ethanol is a scam folks.
@@AmericanPiddler We've even got a WallyMart in the area now with non-eth. I tested it with water and it had zero ethanol. The expensive test kits are a scam water is all you need.
Hey I’ve done the 3 things. The saw is verry hard to pull. I had the saw rebuilt last year in Seneca Missouri. What is going on with this like I don’t want to keep spending money on it.
I tried the same, new plug, confirmed spark. New air filter, confirmed clean carburetor. New fuel, confirmed flow to cylinder. No ignition. I went back to an axe. It always starts. Shoulder hurts now.
Mark have you checked the muffler screen? Or have you checked the compression of your saw? And lastly have you tuned the saw? I have a how to actually tune a chainsaw video that may help.... hope this helps thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!
American Piddler I think I’ve done all of that. Still nothing. It’s a poulan pro 18”. If I could buy a twenty inch electric cordless I would. I’ll buy a new Stihl next year, but every service costs as much as the poulan did. I hate two cycle engines. Never had one remain reliable after the second year.
@@markhansen4258 so what is that you are missing? Is it not getting spark? If it is getting spark have you tested the compression? If you have... what was it at? Give me as much detail as you can and I'll do my best to help you out get that saw running!
American Piddler I just checked it with my thumb. It’s pretty strong. Doubt that’s the issue. When I tore it down it was running, but wouldn’t idle. Two years and a bunch of decent cuts. Maybe I screwed up the coil, but that’s not worth replacing. I can buy another for $99. $65 for the coil.
Muffler spark arrestor screen can clog, rings sometimes get stuck and crankcase bearings an seals can need replacing. Nice video overall. A spanner wrench and sharpening file should come with all outdoor power tools. Id do a drop start compression test when yardsale shopping. Most dont allow hooking up a pressure/vac tester.
My wife had that custom made for me a few years back for my BIRTHDAY! Thanks for watching and I'll ask the shirt maker about it for ya! "Keep on Piddling"
"I'm gonna tell ya about number 3" pause "Number 3 is...." pause "Gasoline!" "Now my great great great grandpappy had one the first steam saws and then after 40yrs came the squirrel - powered saws, they were mean brutes, especially if you forgot to feed them!", yawn. Here's a tip; GET TO THE POINT!!! Man! You yanks can rattle, if you used your wasted breath to power those saws, they'd have NO competition ROFL!!!
We in the Philippines are using unleaded gasoline mixing with 2T oil. Every 2 stroke small engine we are using the same mixture (1liter of unleaded gasoline mix with 25 percent 2T oil.
Don't know what 2T oil is, most important the oil must read for AIR COOLED 2stroke. Premature scoring will occur on the exhaust side of cylinder if anything else is applied. Some faster than others.
all good advice, except (unless I missed it) I was surprised you did talk about the known serious problems of using standard ethanol/gasoline..... I learned my lesson on that when one spring I saw how the ethanol sitting in a system over the winter had quite literally "ate" through the fuel lines in every small engine I had.... Ever since, I've made a point to find the (higher octane) ethanol-free gas.... worth the effort. Maybe your counsel is to only use fresh gas (of whatever dubious mixture, just no more than a month old) and in that way avoid the ethanol induced deterioration troubles.... ?
typo -- somehow left out word "NOT" -- as in I was surprised you did "not" mention this well known problem. (even consumer reports 7 years ago published a scathing review of the issue for small engines)
I didn't mention it because it is a MYTH! A sealed air tight container will not pose any issues with a 10% ethanol mix... Thanks for watching! Keep on Piddling! #americanpiddler
Fuel line and filter replacement! th-cam.com/video/brtOQnVZym0/w-d-xo.html
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Been on all day with my stihl ms 181 , pull , pull ,pull , tried spray start , sputtered , good spark , I had topped up petrol , air cfilter clean , was ready to give up take it to dealer , checked youtube yet again and came across piddler , tipped out all petrol and checked fuel filter , clean , put in fresh mix , started 3 rd pull , what a relief .
Thanks so much .
Perfect Dennis glad you got her going! Thanks for watching and keep on piddling! #americanpiddler
Another simple thing to check if it won’t start/stay running. Pull the muffler off and check the spark arrester screen. If that’s plugged it won’t run right either.
Actually, it takes 4 things to run an engine. The one you forgot was compression. When you check for spark, put your thumb over the spark plug hole and pull the cord slowly. You'll be able to tell if you have compression.
Great video, very straightforward and accurate but I would definitely add "Did you flood it?" at the start of all this. I fix saws that are used by firefighters, so for those of you that consider it "abuse" of a good saw to do things like leave old gas in it, forget to clean the air filter or change the spark plug every so often, you would be traumatized if you could see what my babies have to go through. While I agree compression is a key element, it's not always a likely problem if the saw was running fine the last time you used it. Checking these three things (four if you just stick your thumb over the hole while you're checking spark) will tell you what's wrong with your saw most of the time... unless you're like me and you need additional items on the checklist like:
- Did you clear the cylinder after Jackwaggin McGee flooded it with about 40 pulls?
- Is the bar oil compartment full of gas?
- Is the gas in the bar oil compartment unleaded, or diesel?
- Is the gas in the fuel tank green?
- Is the fuel line blocked because the filter body is mysteriously gone and debris is jammed on the end of the tube instead?
- Did someone give the air filter a heavy handed "oil bathing" because they believe this is the type of system that needs that?
- Did somebody have a grand ol' time turning all of the carburetor screws in every direction and give up when nothing did what they expected it to?
P.S. ~ In case you're wondering, yes, all of these have true stories behind them.
Great video. My brother gave me his Stihl O44, because he could not pull start it. The compression was so strong that he could not pull it fast enough. It has a new spark plug, fresh fuel. I managed to get it to fire, but it would not continue to run and quit before I could get to the throttle control. When it runs it is a monster. the spark plug looks new and the air and fuel filters look good. it may be safer if I remove the bar and chain when attempting to start.
Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
You did a great job.
May I just make a small suggestion ?
If you want to make clear it is necessary to change something, show what the old one did or didn't and what the new one does.
It will make it easier to understand WHY it has to be done.
God bless for this great video
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
The one thing I really appreciate is you don't use foul language.
And you know what your talking about ,
That's refreshing
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You were absolutely correct. Put the wrong gas in and all went to crap. Dumped it out and started over with the right gas. Third pull it was running. Thank You
Stephen Berry That's great news! Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!
Yes! Fresh gas mix! I'm lucky that both my weed eaters and all my chainsaws use 32:1. I mix 2 gal at a time in my small round metal can and use it until it's almost gone and dispose of the rest (usually about 8oz). Every time before pouring I stir it by swishing the can (two shooter marbles in the can). This has always worked for me to keep the mix consistent. Some plastic cans I've tried don't work for this because the marble plugs the spout when you pour.
Good tip there to help mix the fuel!
Funny, in all my years trying to keep my saws running, never tried removing a spark plug with the Scrench. Always went digging for my spark plug sockets. Thanks.
Yep love my Scrench!
Yes the scrench was designed for that but most guys do toss in a spot they think they can find it. Everyone tends to overtorque Like the gas and oil caps there are prob 1000 theories I think they vibrate theirselves tighter. IDK
I think the vacuum causes them to tighten
Hi from UK My local Engineer whom I've known 15 years serviced my saw, put on new coil etc , I paid 200 dollars,.......still won't start, although he managed it when I took it back..........I now intend to do your 3 things , I don't wanna fall out with him, but at 72, I need a chainsaw to start quickly ..Thanks again.
If this doesn't work check out my other video " how to actually tune a chainsaw " thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
I have a brand new Stihl I bought last year and used about 5 times for less than an hour each time that now won't start. I have to confess, it still has fuel from last fall in it. I'm gonna put fresh fuel in it first and go through each step until I get it started. It Will start!
Thanks for sharing these tips with us!
IT IS A FUEL PROBLEM! Thanks for watching and keep on piddling! #americanpiddler
This video has got me super motivated to fix my saw, a Poulan Pro less than 1 year old and wouldn't stay running. Now after I messed with the H and L screws it won't even start. Maybe old gas? First thing I'm gong to try.
Watch my how to actually tune a chainsaw video as well to help get the saw started
My saw still does not run. I’m about ready to give up. The Stihl mechanic at ace hardware said the Poulan is junk
Of course he did he's a Stihl fan... start over with the tuning and go from there I'm sure it's fine! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
The sound of the running chainsaw makes me want to play doom. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to check these 3 components out on my own non-running chainsaw (2 years sitting) and see if I can get it going again without a professional needing to work on it.
I'm sure you can I sure appreciate you watching and joining the channel! If need be check out my How to actually tune a chainsaw video th-cam.com/video/eA2jEGJCrZ4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! My beloved daddy passed away last November and I have his chain saw now and it won't run. Your video gives me hope that I'll get it running again soon.
My boss of the company i have worked at for 12 years passed away and we were like fam. I have his saw. And after this vid feel the same
That's a pretty cool story and very sweet that you had that connection! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling!
Wow my father passed away April last year I'm here for the same reason.
I'm happy to help! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling! #americanpiddler
Neither one of mine works. I will try these 3 steps. $35 + $55 is still a good price for that saw. And it started! Awesome! Very good video! 👍
Papa If you can't get it call me I will go into further detail! or sell them to me on the cheap lol!
we could use more guys like this who talk plain and show plainly what they are doing.
Bill that's why we do what we do! Thanks for watching, hope ya subscribed! Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Storage condition. In addition to running all the fuel out don’t forget to loosen the chain a few turns. This saves your crankshaft seals during storage. I also pour out all the gas and add a few ounces of Stihl Moto Mix to the tank and let this gas cycle through the saw until it runs out. Then I put the saw in the full choke position and pull it until it fails to roll over. This gets the last bit of gas out of the system. I do leave the bar oil tank full of bar oil because they have been know to develop cracks if left without oil in them. I clean the oil tanks out with kerosene once a year as part of my regular pm program.
Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling!
god bless ive just brought a stilh 291 and i was haveing a promble geting it to start and when you said pull till you feel it resest thats when it will start thanks a million god bless
Thanks for watching & keep on piddling #americanpiddler
did the spark test. No spark. All connections looked good. Took apart the housing where the start / stop switch is. Totally filthy. There was no contact for the start switch. cleaned it and boom! Started. Happy Camper.
Perfect 👌 Thanks for watching and keep on piddling! #americanpiddler
Use NO ETHANOL Gas Especially for STORAGE , in Chain Saws, Weed Eater, Lawn Mowers etc Ethanol will Cause Corrosion Damage Carburetors
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Won't hurt a bit! Watch this episode where I discuss Ethanol th-cam.com/video/13ZV2Z1xeH4/w-d-xo.html
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@Jason Nicholas love me some Buckin Billy Ray! Thanks for watching and keep on piddling! #americanpiddler
Great information .Thanks for Americans like you !
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I have almost the same 024 :) Awesome saw!
Now I have to get 2x 026 to work. Thanx for the video!
Piddling here in Ireland means urinating. Particularly in reference to a small child or a pet. Keep on piddlin' gave me a chuckle 😁
I have heard that a bunch lol 😆
Good tips. I only bring 1 large fuel can to the gas station. It gets fuel stabiliser in it before I go. I then decant from that can for all my power equipment into smaller cans for mixed fuel.
Good way of doing it!
You are spot on! Petrol industry should be shot for producing a fuel that will cause you headaches and unnecessary repairs! Great video! Covered the basics and the most common problems. Thumbs up.
Thanks for watching glad it helped! Don't forget to subscribe and keep on piddling! #americanpiddler
Amen on the fuel. Many a friend spent hours cranking boats , wheelers , etc n were too stubborn to accept simply their fuel was stale. Pull a sample n won’t light with a bic.
Yes sir! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Thank you. thank you. thank you. Dumped the old mix, blew out the filters. now it runs like new.
This is exactly why I do this! Thank you for watching and taking the time to let me know it helped! Stoked to have ya now Keep on Piddling!
That was great tip. Gonna try an get my three running.wish me luck...thank you
Absolutely! Don't hesitate to come back with any questions! Thanks for watching don't forget to subscribe and Keep on Piddling! #americanpiddler
If you have a marina near by, get your fuel there.Most marinas use non ethanol fuel so it wont rot the rubber fuel system parts.......oh and make sure the spark arrester is not plugged....
Very good info I also have an airport within a mile of the house!
Cool,your set.....
Spark arrester... What's that LoL !!!
Haha yes mine has been removed but I dont cut in an area that has forest fires
I always forget about TH-cam when Im balls deep in something that should be working. Of course I did exactly what I was taught not to which is use old gas. Which is why it probably wasn’t starting. Then I of course then I moved right on to the air filter pulled it and opened it up to blow it out. I Didn’t realize it came as 1 piece and could of bought a new one. I could only think I needed another person to pull the cord so I could use a paper clip to check spark between plug and wire. After cleaning the whole saw and insuring screws were tight I took it to the shop. I inherited that 028 WB from my dad and I had it rebuilt 4-5 years ago and it usually runs like champ. Your video was great I wish I would of checked it out sooner.
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regular maintenance goes along way.i got a 55 rancher love the saw.take care
I too have a 455 it was on the workbench! I've had that saw about 8 years now trouble free!
Very good. It almost always comes down to the basics, air, fuel, spark. Love the shirt too.
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Yeah, fuel filter install please!
I do ! And I have a PhD in experimental nuclear physics.
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Thanks for this video. I know the basics of engines but when I work on computers all day I forget. For sure if the gas is more than 30 days old or if you don't know how old is....USE FRESH GAS!
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Alright!! Fantastic!! Thanks!!
KISS never ever use ethanol fuel in a 2 stroke PERIOD 95% of your problems are already solved echo says if you use ethanol fuel the warranty is VOID and the 3 things you need is compression , spark and fuel great video keep on keepin on
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Thank you so much, love that video. I have a chain saw that won’t start; going to try your advice!
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After watching your other video with the Husky 455 and how to tune, I started cleaning it up and although not a part of your video, I found a lot of build up in the muffler, and man what a hard removal....they must have used an impact wrench to torque in the bolts...went ahead and ordered proper screwdrivers from your link to adjust the settings for the carburetor and will be getting to that part when they come in....anyway you are 100% right about the gas...it is awful these days....I try to use only ethanol free, but it still is not the same as years ago. My neighbor has started to use only the premixed high dollar stuff, and he says it is worth it....he cuts a lot of firewood, so he uses more than the average Joe.
Fresh fuel is the key with a superior oil we use Red Armor oil from echo and any gas as long as it's fresh! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Great pointers. I will try all three on my mac 3200 which has been sitting for about 3 years. Thank you again.
Please do and let me know how it turns out. If you have any troubles don't hesitate to ask! Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!
"I'm gonna hop off-camera and install this fuel filter." I'm not sure you completely grasp the youtube concept... ;^)
It's in a separate video you should have seen that with your deep understanding 🤣 Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling! Heres the link to the Fuel filter episode...
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That's a fair comment. I thought the same thing. I was watching the guy, not the ad stuff on the screen. Why not just show it now if it makes a significant difference in the point of this video. Anyway, odd snide reply, on his part. But good video.
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I know this is really basic stuff, but showing the tool used and technique for gapping a spark plug woulda helped too. Been so long since I've had to do that, I thought it was a bunch of MALARKEY! :P
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Good info. You're right about the gas. I always try to make old gas work, but it doesn't. 👍
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My moms weed Wacker wouldnt start,im positive she bought 87 octane and it sat all winter so 3 or 4 months in a gas can,i confirmed it,weedwack didnt start,dumped it and put my fresh saw mix,couple primer bulb presses and 3 pulls it fired..old gas is definitely a thing
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Thanks man.. my chain saw running good now.. haha.. thank you so much
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Good common sense video, spark plug, air and fuel filters, fresh gas.... and preventive maintenance before you put it away.
Thanks for the kind words Mark!
30 yrs ago I was a North West Coast Timber Feller we ran Stihl 075's and Husqvarna 100 super 6 1/2 hours a day 6 days a week. Stihl had NO manual chain oiler. Dogged into10 ft Sitka Spruce Snags broke a 404 chain in a week and Pooched a bar in less than a month. Husky = 6 weeks and 6 months respectively. If Husky wont start check type of fuel pickup. If fabric, toss it, replace with Stihl screen style. Running dry in a premix saw is not recommended. When your out of fuel your also out of lubrication. Use recommended oil with fuel stabilizer. At shut down hold throttle wide open while turning off, the excess fuel lubricates rings and cylinder. If run dry and stored dry, one may require new diaphragms that go hard if left long enough.. Insufficient compression is a silent and sudden culprit so check it B4 throwing parts at it. Recommend Premium non ethanol fuel. Shell V Power my go to but not from a blender pump if your anal like me. SAFE SAWING ALL!
I can only hope folks take the time to read this comment! So much knowledge & truth in one comment! Thanks for sharing & thanks for watching!
Awesome video. Thanks for the knowledge. Can’t trust ppl with a clean garage/shed ;)
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Ok, two days in a row I’ve been able to get this Husky running. How? I watched a few more “How to Start Husqvarna Chainsaw” videos and one in particular stood out and showed things a bit differently than how I was doing it.
Steps that enabled cold start:
1. Prime the fuel bulb 6x
2. Fully pull out the choke
3. Pull the starter MAX three times ( more than 3 pulls floods the engine)
4. Push choke 1/2 way in (hopefully you heard a slight almost start)
5. Pull starter until it starts
6. Squeeze the throttle, rev engine, and cut wood.
Hope this helps others....since all I really changed was “starting technique” this might be others problems as well with Husqvarna saws. I plan to start daily, maybe twice daily, for a week or two just to have additional data points.
Thank you. I am dealing with a new 455 and after putting the chain on cannot get the clutch back together. work in progress
Bill if you reach out to me on Facebook or Instagram I may be able to help
I took it into the stihi dealer more than once and still have the same problem. The dealer seems to be able start it every time I complain, yet the same starting problem happens when I get home. The gas is a month old and have tried replacing it without luck. Some of your other suggestions are worth trying for myself.
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If more people in this world spoke as clearly and at a decent speed , while explaining things like you it would be fantastic .
I am a bartender so I need clear direction.
Thanks dude .
Justin sure appreciate the kind words & for ya taking the time to leave me a message! I try my best to keep it as simple as possible sonata the end you've actually learned something new! Keep me posted on what your working on and maybe I can lend a hand if ya need it!
Great video. I would like to mention that drop starting is not a safe practice nor is starting your chainsaw in an enclosed environment for obvious reasons.
I have started my chainsaws that way for over 4 decades and it is still the best way... Period!
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i had a big stihl i could get my boot thru the handle opening and pin it to the ground and use both hands to pull the cord. it even had a decompression button to make pulling easier. if you didn't use that button, it would kick so hard it would almost pull your fingers off. now i have the one in the vid, opening is too small to put my shoe thru, and i drop pull it with no problems.
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Great advice. And to those "professional maintenance guys" who might say you doing it wrong, well wheres there videos??
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Love the info I’m working on my chainsaw s and I got them to run but the y won’t stay running lol
I need a new Thank filter and new fuel line May god bless you with knowledge and wisdom my friend 😃👍👍👍
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The gas is the most important. Cheers.
Ditto!
Yep, just be sure to use ethanol free gas. Also, fuel stabilizer I’ve found works fine to keep the gas fresh for months and months.
I got a craftsman chain saw that won't start... thanx so much for the video and the tips
Be sure and subscribe I should have another useful chainsaw video out this week!
Excellent video. Thanks American Piddler!
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Great video, thank you.
ANOTHER SOLUTION: For any other dolts out there...I worked for hours on mine, replaced the spark plug (despite getting sparks when testing my current one), changing the gas, etc. I finally started to bust in to the carburetor based on some other videos I saw to clean it up but noticed on the way after removing the air filter, that the little plastic hose that feeds gas to the engine behind the air filter had come undone, which is also why I saw excess gas collecting at the bottom of the chainsaw. Simply popped the hose back on to the little metal tube it is supposed to be attached to and voila! Hope this helps someone else.
Yep I have also seen those hoses get little pin holes in them causing all kinds of trouble
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You mean we not pose to take a hammer to it? Got to break mine down and see what her problem is. Almost sure the carb is plugged up. Been to lazy to mess with it..LOL Great tips buddy! Thanks for sharing these with us.
CB The hammer technique is always an option when your piddling around like me but professionals look down upon it!
GIFTHO Good Information For The Home Owner, I'm a Banjo player too.Have two Husqvarna a 455 and a smaller one, burning the wood I processed last year as I write, nice and warm during the current ice storm we're having in New England 12/17/19.
Cheers
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Thanks! Easy to understand! No nonsense!
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And “Two Hours Later!” Oh that is some funny $#\+ right there...That deserves a subscribe😂
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Not only are the videos helpful, but your shirts are awesome as well! 😂😂😂😂😂
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Thank you. I will try these tips today.
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Great video ! For those REALLY STUBBORN saws, weed eaters and so on ... that have carb issues, get the model and Number and go on EBay ! You can buy a NEW carb for around $10 !! I used to work at STIHL in Va Beach Va and would go through around 200 carbs in ONE SHIFT ... ( we ran EVERY saw in a test cell before packing and shipping them ) then there is the ethanol problem of course. ... $10 can save a LOT of aggravation !! just sayin" .... Keep up the great work. I'm sure you help a lot of people get their equipment running again !!
So much knowledge in what you just shared so thank you! You are correct ethanol is horrible for our small engines! The same tricks will work for buying a cheap carb to get it going then fine tune it! Thanks for watching!
My Father in law installed and wired the initial machines at the Stihl plant in the 70s. He went on to be an electrical supervisor at the NNS.
Tom Jones in comments is right . Fuel with ethanol in it turns hygroscopic , meaning the fuel because of ethanol draws moisture from the air of it's surroundings . The water molecules are taken into the molecules of the fuel . The results are not good . Engine won't run right and sometimes not at all or won't idle or start . -------Ernest E. Johnson
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There are three thing you need to getbabsawbrunning - compression, spark, fuel and in about that order. I do not disagree with what you said or did but compression is as much of an importance as the other two.
I was going to mention compression also. You can have the other three things but have weak compression. It isn't going to run.
Gary you are correct!
Thanks guy for your tip. Good job.
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I just went through this with my 1980's Stihl 024 AV. If you have an older Stihl, pull your fuel line and check the diameter of the opening. My parts shop had the aftermarket listed as the ONLY fit. These fuel lines are made with a grommet to snug them in the opening, hard to feed through just right. After you get the grommet seated, you then grab line inside tank, pull and add the filter. The aftermarket fuel line grommet (7700) is WAY too wide for the opening on old school 024, 026s. You want the 7705. Once I got the "OEM" part number they were able to find one in stock. It's a short line, hard to connect to the carburetor without using hemostats. Glad my dad and brother's "schooled me", I have Ryobi on the table next...LOL
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@@AmericanPiddler dropping my 1st dead 60 ft today, done lots of pines but they were alive and kind of naturally padded. This one has to go between two sheds about 25 ft apart....timber!
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Love the shirt.
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Would have been nice to show replacing the filter and line, if he'd actually done it off camera, which he may not have.
@Cliff C Fuel line and filter replacement! th-cam.com/video/brtOQnVZym0/w-d-xo.html
Hey Mate, all the way from Australia. I watched your clip and cant wait to try what you have shown us as i have two chainsaws that will not run. Thanks from down under
( Australia)
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A STIHLL advertisement just came up on my TV as I im watching your video! How's that! Going to get my Chinese knock off working today.
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thanks for the video
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Love the shirt
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thank you for sharing your pm video.
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Thank you so much💝for the valuable advice..... My father is a professional tree cutter, u r advise helped him a lot... 😇😇😇
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He's a pro and didn't know about these simple things???lol how can u run a saw for a living and not know about spark plug air filter and gas??
Forget ethanol fuel and most of your problems are gone. Sorry corn don't need you. Search online for the nearest non-eth seller. Boats and planes use non-eth not that hard to find. Ethanol is a scam folks.
Tom you are correct ethanol is horrible for a two strokes! Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!
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@@AmericanPiddler We've even got a WallyMart in the area now with non-eth. I tested it with water and it had zero ethanol. The expensive test kits are a scam water is all you need.
Hey I’ve done the 3 things. The saw is verry hard to pull. I had the saw rebuilt last year in Seneca Missouri. What is going on with this like I don’t want to keep spending money on it.
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Why dont he answer the questions? This is again my same problem. .
Sounds like its burnt up 🤷🏼♂️ hope that helps...
Check the spark arrestor screen. I did alot of research. This is my only answer so far. Hope this helps. Let me know what happen??
Great information it worked for me
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Good tip on empty for storage. Couple seasons can rot a line sometimes.
Absolutely! It's Hard on a saw to leave fuel in it!
I can't believe you went through all that and didn't film replacing the fuel line and filter.
It's in a separate video! Thanks for watching and Keep on Piddling #americanpiddler
Best tutorial I have seen for this
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The practical breakdown of info, was not too long & good for me, cause I'm a novice. Thanks...
The one thing I wanted to see was changing the fuel filter and fuel line. I guess you didn't think it was important.
th-cam.com/video/brtOQnVZym0/w-d-xo.html here you go thanks for watching!
I tried the same, new plug, confirmed spark. New air filter, confirmed clean carburetor. New fuel, confirmed flow to cylinder. No ignition. I went back to an axe. It always starts. Shoulder hurts now.
Mark have you checked the muffler screen? Or have you checked the compression of your saw? And lastly have you tuned the saw? I have a how to actually tune a chainsaw video that may help.... hope this helps thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!
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American Piddler I think I’ve done all of that. Still nothing. It’s a poulan pro 18”. If I could buy a twenty inch electric cordless I would. I’ll buy a new Stihl next year, but every service costs as much as the poulan did. I hate two cycle engines. Never had one remain reliable after the second year.
@@markhansen4258 so what is that you are missing? Is it not getting spark? If it is getting spark have you tested the compression? If you have... what was it at? Give me as much detail as you can and I'll do my best to help you out get that saw running!
American Piddler I just checked it with my thumb. It’s pretty strong. Doubt that’s the issue. When I tore it down it was running, but wouldn’t idle. Two years and a bunch of decent cuts. Maybe I screwed up the coil, but that’s not worth replacing. I can buy another for $99. $65 for the coil.
Thanks I know now I'll refer to it soon once I have a saw to tune up.
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well now I know what too look for when I go thrift shopping or yard selling. Thank you for a great video. You are a ROCKSTAR brother.
You sir are a scholar & a Gentleman! Thanks as always for the kind word's and encouragement!
Believe me when I see videos that provide something to the world I always leave my appriciation.
Got a ms250 without bar an chain for 15.
Muffler spark arrestor screen can clog, rings sometimes get stuck and crankcase bearings an seals can need replacing. Nice video overall. A spanner wrench and sharpening file should come with all outdoor power tools. Id do a drop start compression test when yardsale shopping. Most dont allow hooking up a pressure/vac tester.
Awesome find!
But how did you change the fuel line and filter?
Make sure to subscribe and I'll cover it in a future video!
The episode is up! Chainsaw fuel line & filter replacement...
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1 more thing I forgot to mention , I recommend pre mix gas from True fuel or the STIHL brand.
Good job I'm working on a 290 homelite Textron my self. thanks
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Always useful to have chainsaws videos. Thanks for your time...
VERY HELPFUL , JUST ONE QUESTION WHERE CAN I FIND THAT SHIRT? LOL
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"I'm gonna tell ya about number 3" pause "Number 3 is...." pause "Gasoline!" "Now my great great great grandpappy had one the first steam saws and then after 40yrs came the squirrel - powered saws, they were mean brutes, especially if you forgot to feed them!", yawn. Here's a tip; GET TO THE POINT!!! Man! You yanks can rattle, if you used your wasted breath to power those saws, they'd have NO competition ROFL!!!
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We in the Philippines are using unleaded gasoline mixing with 2T oil. Every 2 stroke small engine we are using the same mixture (1liter of unleaded gasoline mix with 25 percent 2T oil.
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Don't know what 2T oil is, most important the oil must read for AIR COOLED 2stroke. Premature scoring will occur on the exhaust side of cylinder if anything else is applied. Some faster than others.
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all good advice, except (unless I missed it) I was surprised you did talk about the known serious problems of using standard ethanol/gasoline..... I learned my lesson on that when one spring I saw how the ethanol sitting in a system over the winter had quite literally "ate" through the fuel lines in every small engine I had.... Ever since, I've made a point to find the (higher octane) ethanol-free gas.... worth the effort. Maybe your counsel is to only use fresh gas (of whatever dubious mixture, just no more than a month old) and in that way avoid the ethanol induced deterioration troubles.... ?
typo -- somehow left out word "NOT" -- as in I was surprised you did "not" mention this well known problem. (even consumer reports 7 years ago published a scathing review of the issue for small engines)
I didn't mention it because it is a MYTH! A sealed air tight container will not pose any issues with a 10% ethanol mix... Thanks for watching! Keep on Piddling! #americanpiddler
Thanks mate.
Appreciate it I have the same problem I'm going to take you advice and try it out I'll let you know what happens
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I buy my premium non ethanol gas at a Union 76 station in Leesville, SC. PRICE $2.89 per gallon.
Great to know. Thanks
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