Lamar has a pressure every game he faces and if he wins “well it’s just regular season” but if Josh Allen loses to the patriots or jets then they gone blame the coach, his weapons, kicker or even his new engagement.
They’ve been trying to crown Josh Allen for three years. 😂😂😂😂 Just say you don’t want Lamar to win again. Acting like 🎱 didn’t win MVPs throwing to Willie Snead and Seth Roberts.
@@Finnissee0122 Correct. WR 'Hollywood' was a year removed from a Lisfranc foot injury. He was typically runnin' on one foot that whole season. And Mark was comin' into his own as a TE. Moreover, he couldn't even audible in the *RUDIMENTARY* offense of OC Greg Roman "run game Guru." Pass concepts were for a high school football team *NOT* an NFL team.
Lamar plays on Saturday vs the Steelers but the NFL did something ridiculous by flexing the Bills vs the losing Patriots on Sunday for the national audience to see Josh Allen play. The NFL is trying to do everything for Allen to win that MVP and I hope the losing Patriots team smashed them on Sunday.🤔
Ain't nobody trying to give Josh Allen the award. You either earn it or you don't. Lamar has earned it. Josh Allen, historically, started seasons strong, then his performances start to fade mid to late season, mainly due to turnovers. This year he's not turning the ball over and he deserves all the praise he's getting
Man it’s Lamar teammates letting him down, fun fact they have had 26 drop passes against Pittsburgh and Tucker has missed 8 field goals but it’s Lamar tho. Yeah okay, they act like it’s not a team game. If you watched the games you would know it’s not Lamar’s fault.
Are you just now finding out how the media works? Nobody is going to get on ESPN and talk about how Justice Hill and Nelson Agholor (using these two as an example) lost the game... those aren't big enough names. They are going to mention Lamar and say it's on him because every time they mention his name, ESPN's ratings go up.
@@ColinFlynn1665we will see all about the ravens this weekend can they get their get back on Steelers but you do know the Steelers are very angry they got embarrassed by the eagles can’t wait for the epic matchup
If you watched those games you’d realize he isn’t solid against fundamentally sound defenses who keep him in the pocket, his different receiving cores have dropped the ball bc he throws too hard and inconsistent under pressure
And, the penalties, turnovers, & terrible O-line play doesn't count either, according to them, besides Jason McCourty. Interesting. #ContextIsEverything #SelectiveOmissions
@@jdajayi92 Context - Bills have no WR AND Josh hasn't won the MVP. If he wins two MVP's and chokes in the postseason, he will have scrutiny like Lamar. What about Lamar's 16 for 33 game? Not exactly an awesome game. The fact that Lamar won the MVP last year was pure favoritism. His stats weren't top 5.
@@EricKearneyMusic 1) No Allen will not. Lamar's being scrutinized on a racist level of bias. Proof: Herbert, Lawrence and Burrow are yet to get blasted for having poor seasons. They all signed their deals the same year as Lamar but only Lamar has been questioned "DOES HE DESERVE HIS MONEY?". Be ignorant all you want, but facts are the facts. There's racial bias. 2) Boohoo, it's Allen's first year without a top-10 receiver. Lamar has done this his whole career. 3) No 16/33 is NOT the same as 9/30 (literally one of the worst passing games in NFL history). And having more than 5 tush-push touchdowns isn't impressive for counting in total TD's when that can easily go to the RB on the 1 yard line.
@jdajayi92 Your take is ridiculous and racist in and of itself to mention white QB's. Most of the media are black. What are you going to whine about when in 10 years all QB's are black. You must have never been disciplined as a child. Criticism does not equate hate. Lamar is the only 2 time MVP you mentioned. He has higher expectations of playing like an MVP. The media knows that people like you will get all butthurt when they talk about Lamar. He is a lightning rod and keeps people watching their show. It's 100% a sales tactic and you don't know it. They go away if they don't say things that are controversial. Nobody cares about the Jags or any of those guys. The object of the game is to score points. Sorry you didnt know. It's not a beauty pageant. Allen is a beast and defenses can't handle 250 pounds running. Tush push take is ridiculous. You clearly dont watch their games. Allen has 6,000 yards more passing and 3 more playoff wins than Lamar. They were drafted same year. Allen has done it with an inferior team. If Lamar and Allen were drafted by the other team, Lamar wouldn't be as special. Allen would have won SB. Allen has played like an MVP during postseason while Lamar has choked. Check the stats.
@jdajayi92 You've been brainwashed by the black community to think if someone doesn't kiss your azz, they are racist. 😆 BTW - the NFL is 2/3 black. If anyone should scream bias, it should be all of the other people in America. How does 13% of the population have 2/3 of the players in NFL. Bias.
Jackson also has to face the Steelers, Texans, and Browns, which is a very tough final schedule. Meanwhile, Allen gets 3 free games against the Patriots twice and Jets. Allen could very easily put up another dozen TDs to close out the year.
@itsP00CHI3 you just made my point he hasnt won a mvp. Lamar has two and never done anything in the playoffs and Josh atleast always plays well in the playoffs besides that Bengals loss where he played like Lamar 😂😂
Lamar has 3 games this season with a perfect passer rating and the 3 interceptions he has are all drops by his receivers. If you wanna say Josh Allen is more valuable than that because of the Bills record thats up to you but let’s not get that confused with who’s the best player. Lamar is better than him and to me it’s not close
Big facts! Lamar makes smart decisions with the ball, makes better reads, is a monster running out of the pocket, etc. Allen just has a big arm (not accurate either)
Technically only 1 but he was so close the other 2 times, i would give it to him as well. 158.1 against Bucs and 154 against the Giants and 158.3 against Broncos. And he had 3 perfect passer ratings last season as well!! Lamar is lowkey CRAZY with it!! Ppl really taking what we're witnessing in real time for granted!!!
Josh Allen has only beaten two playoff teams this season…. Every other win he has this season are against teams not making the playoffs. His division is the weakest in the AFC. DID WE FORGET THE 9/31 game THIS SEASON from Josh. Like guys to say it’s OVER is crazy narrative push.
heres the other narrative I also despise... they are so impressed by this dudes 1yd TDs!!! gtfoh!!!! When Jalen started it, "Lets get it out of the NFL" now Josh is the most amazing rushing TDs QB !! ... 1yd freaking tush pushes
@ right. Then to be like Josh has 11 rush touchdowns 😂😂. Okay so what lol. Lamar leads the NFL in almost every QB category oh yea and is on pace to rush for almost 1000 yards. Like stop it! Is Josh in the lead right now, yes. We lost all our defensive coaches and 3 OL in the off season and we have a past his prime RB and Lamar is about to have the best QB season in the history of the NFL. Wild.
It was a 9 of 30 game, but no it’s not forgotten. Also not forgotten were Ravens’ losses to the Raiders and Browns, especially the Raider game which was at home and one of just two wins the Raiders have had all season.
I mean Lamar is Poor against the Steelers but the whole team also crumbles. WR had 7 passs drops including 3 TD drop last season. This season they had over 100 yard of penality which makes it harder to move the chain because every first down was getting pulled back. Justin Tucker missing multiple FGS
💯 💯 💯 No one wants to talk about or remember this. I don't easily subscribe to conspiracies but some in the media are definitely playing their part in making it seem like they're colluding to give the award to Josh SIMPLY bc he never won it & not stats, facts or compelling arguments.
@@FlyTyBlizzyHe just have his worst game against the Steelers. Yes last season that wasn’t fully on him but at the same time he underperforms against the Steelers and it’s definitely a mental thing for the whole team.
Whenever Josh Allen has a good game or stretch, it’s the biggest D riding in all of sports by the media. They want him to win so bad🤣🤣🤣 ill root for chiefs before bills
As a Ravens fan, I need this team to take the rivalry more seriously. Unfortunately, we’re not coached well enough to beat teams like Pittsburgh and Kansas City. And even if we win the division, what does it matter if we can can’t perform well in the playoffs? Most frustrating team in the league, man.
If we win on Saturday, I don't think we're going to lose another game. Because the Steelers and Chiefs use the same defensive formula to beat us, and if we can exploit that on Saturday, its game over for the rest of the AFC. From how I see it, the reason we can't perform in the playoffs is because we can't beat the Steelers. Every team that has beaten us including Kansas City has used THEIR FORMULA on how to beat us. Difference between another dud in the playoffs, and a 3rd Lombardi is going to be this game.
Lamar’s team only wins when he has a rating of 114 or higher. That’s the MVP. Josh won a game throwing 0 TDs and 2 INT. Lamar does that and they get blown out
Lamar shouldn't even care anymore honestly, he has two already not like he doesn't have any...Lamar concern should be dominating in the playoffs and getting to a SB...That's it that's ALL
He has 2 already??? Tf does that have to do with Anything? He wants to he the best every year and mvp is the award that is given…. He wants it all and he should. To say he doesn’t care is stupid, will he be sad if he doesn’t get it, no. But if Allen wins this year it will be due to voter fatigue, the equivalent of participation trophy. BTW, I have noticed haters have adopted this sentiment and have been spreading it throughout the TH-cam comment sections
@spiritualwarexposed3145 No if he keeps winning MVPs with no chips, then at that point it becomes a participation trophy...Don't nobody give af if you got 8 MVP awards fool, where them rings at?? Tf yall be talking about
If the Steelers would line up Darnell Washington outside more their passing offense would be so much better or get him running more routes on passing downs
lol how is the mvp race over? Because Dan orlovski said so? 😂This is why espn is dying. WHO cares what Dan has to say? This need to give josh this make a wish mvp is nuts. How about this for a narrative? Josh and Lamar played this season and Josh looked like hot garbage
This is why You should just play Your game. When LJ was running, YALL criticized Him. Now that LJ is staying in pocket, YALL screaming run. UNBELIEVABLE !
Did you see the game last night Denver vs The Chargers with those white QBs running. Let's see the narrative tomorrow morning about what they're going to say about that😅
Can’t make it up. Good game glad to see Chargers pull it out. I’m a big Harburg fan, I root for Herbert to though He might be a bust. That D Mack James jr Bosa Dupree 💪🏾
The fact that no blame has been placed on Justin Tucker who hss missed numerous important game and strategy changing kicks is never mentioned..Josh Allen makes a mistake the blame is solely placed on someone else..no matter what he does..Lamar has to be the quarterback the running back the wide receiver of the cornerback the safety the coach play caller and if any special teams blunders happens is somehow Lamar Jackson's fault as well..this is why he is the MVP because of overwhelmingly Prejudice and bias opinions are spewing blame on everybody except Josh Allen when it's usually his fault..
This Josh Allen narrative is honestly disgusting. Media couldn’t stomach ANOTHER Lamar MVP. Mind you this is all being said the same exact week Lamar threw 5 touchdowns, which was more than his amount of incompletions. Not to mention that Lamar absolutely smoked Allen in their head to head. Allen got rested for the last quarter they were losing so bad…. Not to mention Lamer is leading Allen in every major statistic. These people and their narrative man….
It’s on the OC to call the games tailored to LJs strength and it’ll benefit the entire organization. Do yall realize BAL has been top 3 rushing NFL since LJ has been starter including league leading 4x. This run game is fueled by LJ. With DH it just goes to another level, but you have to use LJs running ability, which they had greatly reduced until last week vs NY. The Giants might suck as a team but they’re still pros and BAL had them all over the place and off balance defensively. It’s because the OC ran more zone/option reads than they have all year. You have to utilize his running ability! And it’s not to have him go for 100 but it’s to make defenses respect and account for him potentially running EVERY play. When teams account for him running, the game becomes a true 11v11 as opposed to a 10v11 with a non running threat at QB. If BAL stays true, they have their best chance ever because DH is the primary beneficiary of the attention LJ gets at mesh point on the reads.
Josh Allen is playing really well. Lamar leads him in almost every category but let Josh have the award man. We cant give it to the same 2 people every year. Next year we can give it to Burrow, Herbert or someone
The Ravens haven't lost by more than 7 points all season, yet somehow it always falls on Lamar. It's funny because the defense was pretty shaky at the start, and Justin Tucker actually missed 7 field goals in their 5 losses. Two of those games were close, with him missing multiple kicks, and if they had won those, they would have matched the Bills' win record. 🤔
How can anyone say that Josh Allen is clearly the leader as the MVP. 7 out of 11 of the Bills wins are against teams with losing records. 5 of the Ravens 9 wins are against playoff bound teams, while the Ravens were up by double digits in the 4th quarter in 2 of their loses and had 2 missed field goals in a 2 point third loss. Lamar is statistically putting up historical numbers. He’s leading Josh in every statistical category except rushing touchdowns which are more push tush. Lamar has the highest quarterback rating in the NFL history right now. To add insult to injury, Lamar crushed Josh in the head to head matchup. Sincerely, what’s the real agenda for putting Josh ahead of Lamar in this MVP race?
I think guys continue to ignore the element of TJ Watt in his face and Minkah hovering around in the secondary. Lamar should win every game as if the other team doesn't have a first ballot HoF chasing him.
Lamar 🔥 does NOT care about the MVP3 title😏 He’s chasing bigger things🏆 The voters/media have been pushing for Josh Allen for 3 consecutive YEARS…and he wasn’t even close last year💜🏈🖤
@@matthewwilliams4168 he took the big bucks in exchange of a hall of fame career many have never n 2 MVP with many more years to come I would be grateful if I was the ravens they will sell out every game the rest of his career…
Hey EPSN why didnt you do a cool video with RC and Rodgers? Usually get heaps of highlight clip videos from you guys. My vac status is ''got it cos If not I would be fired''. Bring RC up, I heard he eats his steaks with Schefty and the both eat with ketchup and sideways.
He deserves the pressure. He needs to put up or shut up. 12 points isnt enough. You need to come out strong and give an MVP effort. 4 TD passes. If he cant win, go back to middle of the pack. Cant score more than 10 at home in AFC Championship Game. Chokes in big games with lots at stake.
Why are we even listening to Dan trying to criticize a qb that is 200x the qb he Ever was. Didn’t he only play like a handful of games and throw a bunch of pics when he played?? Dan sucked as a quarterback lol
The media hates Lamar especially espn. Pressure is always on Lamar from week 1 lol when Allen went 9/30 it was quiet. Lamar has a kicker that lost them every game lol the funniest is when Dan said Joe burrows fumbled weren’t his fault but everything is Lamar’s fault
Last year in the first game against the Steelers Lamar should have thrown for over 300 yards and 3 + touchdowns if the receivers didn’t drop a legitimate 8 drops including 3 easy touchdowns. It was one of the worst performances.
Skipping 2019 in Dan’s recap when Lamar won MVP with Willie Snead as receiver 1 is laughable and screams fitting the narrative and the refusal to show a graphic of their stats side by side this season on television just say yall want Josh to win one to keep pace with Lamar and mahomes in the continuing conversations of their careers and spare us the theatrics
Here we go the same guy saying how bad the Steelers are going to suck because we got one hurt player and yet we won last week and we tend to win and keep winning and you guys tend to hate and keep hating I don't o understand Tomlin finds a way to win we've been talking about that all season when are you guys going to wake up and smell the coffee jeez this is exhausting already
Soooo for the ravens they NEED IT, but their better then us overall... yall are extremely biased... steelers are trying to start something new. Ravens been losing the same way for 5 to 6 yrs...tf we talking about.. the media wants the ravens to win because they're more popular😂😂media sux
Greeny totally sucks at bets and predictions!! I would take that bet!!! Lamar ain't bouta be disrespected like that!! Yall going too far!! To say he totally locked up the award when there's 3 games left is insane and disrespectful!
Dan orlovsky really says some nonsense sometimes. Says the Steelers have no shot without George Pickens well I recall the first game against Cleveland we lost and Pickens was in that game, we replayed them two weeks later and we beat them, without George Pickens, this is being said bc of their loss against the Eagles which had nothing to do with Pickens not being there bc the game was lost once Najee Harris gave the game away. At that very moment the score was 20 to 13 and the Steelers were on Philadelphia's 26 yard line . They didn't lose that game because George Pickens wasn't playing..
This is hilarious. Lamar leads Allen in every single stat category except for rushing TDs. He's played better than Allen this year but Tucker has lost the Ravens 2 games and his teammates penalties cost them other games. Ravens could easily be 1 loss right now and then there would be no question Lamar is MVP yet again.
The ravens/lamar fans are some of the most sensitive on planet earth 😂 he routinely chokes against real teams in important games its ok to point that out
.....his record against playoff teams, and the amount he typically wins by, is amazing lol the TEAM just seems to choke against the Chiefs and Steelers specifically. Look at all the other playoff teams they've blown out the last couple seasons lol Bills Lions 49ers Dolphins (when they were good last year) Broncos Chargers Seahawks Bengals (over and over) etc. Are those not important games against real teams? Lamar has beaten them all by multiple scores, some by 20-40 points. You're just parroting this nonsense narrative about how he doesn't play well in big games lol learn to think for yourself
@@curticusmaximus I'd say just the Steelers because Kansas City has used the exact same formula that Mike Tomlin has used every single time, and it works. And its just like how the Colts and Patriots did the same thing to Flacco. Believe me, if we win on Saturday Night, we're not going to lose another game because a giant mental hurdle would be lifted off of our shoulders, and we will be as loose as we've ever been in the Lamar Era going forward.
As a eagles fan, Josh Allen had one of the greatest 40 point games I’ve ever seen in my life. Then had another 40 point game the following week. He’ll be near unanimous MVP
If justin tucker stop missing kicks and the recievers/rbs stop fumbling they will win. Plus lamar is using his legs more now after his mother cussed him out for not running. The team is doing drills to protect the ball from punch outs so we will see what happens this time now
Why do they call it an MVP award when all the tv pundits are making it a QB award. Why other positions have to break a record in order to be MVP? makes no sense😊
Lamar is not bad against the steelers Tomlin game plans to stop him harbaugh gets out coached doesn't give Ravens offense a plan to exploit the steelers defensive weaknesses
Josh Allen is by far better than Lamar Jackson. People are blinded by Jackson ability to run the ball. I would rather pick Hurts over Jackson hands down. If anyone should win MVP it’s either Allen or Barkley.
Lamar has a pressure every game he faces and if he wins “well it’s just regular season” but if Josh Allen loses to the patriots or jets then they gone blame the coach, his weapons, kicker or even his new engagement.
Facts
😂😂😂😂
It’s very simple, Josh doesn’t have a team that he always plays like garbage against, and Josh also isn’t fighting for a wildcard spot.
Facts it’s hilarious 😂😂
Bro said his new engagement 😂😂
At 3:00 Dan Orlovsky called lamar hitting a receiver in the hands in the endzone a bad read because he dropped the pass. WHAT!
Lost all credibility
Remember ESPN Dan Orlovsky, Mina Kimes, Teddy Bruschi are 3 of the 50 voters for MVP.
They’ve been trying to crown Josh Allen for three years. 😂😂😂😂 Just say you don’t want Lamar to win again. Acting like 🎱 didn’t win MVPs throwing to Willie Snead and Seth Roberts.
He literally had Hollywood Brown and Mark Andrews lol
@@mario98730rookie Hollywood brown with a bad foot & mark Andrews was not really known as a top tight end in 2019. He was a 2nd year player.
@@Finnissee0122 Correct. WR 'Hollywood' was a year removed from a Lisfranc foot injury. He was typically runnin' on one foot that whole season. And Mark was comin' into his own as a TE. Moreover, he couldn't even audible in the *RUDIMENTARY* offense of OC Greg Roman "run game Guru." Pass concepts were for a high school football team *NOT* an NFL team.
Lamar plays on Saturday vs the Steelers but the NFL did something ridiculous by flexing the Bills vs the losing Patriots on Sunday for the national audience to see Josh Allen play. The NFL is trying to do everything for Allen to win that MVP and I hope the losing Patriots team smashed them on Sunday.🤔
Ain't nobody trying to give Josh Allen the award. You either earn it or you don't. Lamar has earned it. Josh Allen, historically, started seasons strong, then his performances start to fade mid to late season, mainly due to turnovers. This year he's not turning the ball over and he deserves all the praise he's getting
Man it’s Lamar teammates letting him down, fun fact they have had 26 drop passes against Pittsburgh and Tucker has missed 8 field goals but it’s Lamar tho. Yeah okay, they act like it’s not a team game. If you watched the games you would know it’s not Lamar’s fault.
Maaaaaaaaaaan it’s always easy to blame the quarterback and the coach for everything apparently🤷🏿
Are you just now finding out how the media works? Nobody is going to get on ESPN and talk about how Justice Hill and Nelson Agholor (using these two as an example) lost the game... those aren't big enough names. They are going to mention Lamar and say it's on him because every time they mention his name, ESPN's ratings go up.
@@ColinFlynn1665we will see all about the ravens this weekend can they get their get back on Steelers but you do know the Steelers are very angry they got embarrassed by the eagles can’t wait for the epic matchup
They’ll make excuses for Allen though. (Sometimes valid). I remember Dan was going so hard to defend Josh after the chiefs divisional loss last year.
If you watched those games you’d realize he isn’t solid against fundamentally sound defenses who keep him in the pocket, his different receiving cores have dropped the ball bc he throws too hard and inconsistent under pressure
So y’all gone act like Tucker wasn’t missing kicks in this game
And, the penalties, turnovers, & terrible O-line play doesn't count either, according to them, besides Jason McCourty. Interesting. #ContextIsEverything #SelectiveOmissions
Or like receivers didnt drop all those passes last year!!!! they always leaving out context!!
Yup
Dan Orlovsky, Mina Kimes, Teddy Bruschi and Acho are 4 of the 50 voters for MVP. Sorry Lamar.🤔
Both games
Friendly Reminder: Josh Allen had a game where he went 9/30 passing and the media said NOTHING about it. Favoritism at its finest.
@@jdajayi92 Context - Bills have no WR AND Josh hasn't won the MVP. If he wins two MVP's and chokes in the postseason, he will have scrutiny like Lamar.
What about Lamar's 16 for 33 game? Not exactly an awesome game.
The fact that Lamar won the MVP last year was pure favoritism. His stats weren't top 5.
@@EricKearneyMusic 1) No Allen will not. Lamar's being scrutinized on a racist level of bias. Proof: Herbert, Lawrence and Burrow are yet to get blasted for having poor seasons. They all signed their deals the same year as Lamar but only Lamar has been questioned "DOES HE DESERVE HIS MONEY?". Be ignorant all you want, but facts are the facts. There's racial bias.
2) Boohoo, it's Allen's first year without a top-10 receiver. Lamar has done this his whole career.
3) No 16/33 is NOT the same as 9/30 (literally one of the worst passing games in NFL history). And having more than 5 tush-push touchdowns isn't impressive for counting in total TD's when that can easily go to the RB on the 1 yard line.
@jdajayi92 Your take is ridiculous and racist in and of itself to mention white QB's. Most of the media are black. What are you going to whine about when in 10 years all QB's are black. You must have never been disciplined as a child. Criticism does not equate hate.
Lamar is the only 2 time MVP you mentioned. He has higher expectations of playing like an MVP.
The media knows that people like you will get all butthurt when they talk about Lamar. He is a lightning rod and keeps people watching their show. It's 100% a sales tactic and you don't know it. They go away if they don't say things that are controversial.
Nobody cares about the Jags or any of those guys.
The object of the game is to score points. Sorry you didnt know. It's not a beauty pageant. Allen is a beast and defenses can't handle 250 pounds running. Tush push take is ridiculous. You clearly dont watch their games.
Allen has 6,000 yards more passing and 3 more playoff wins than Lamar. They were drafted same year. Allen has done it with an inferior team.
If Lamar and Allen were drafted by the other team, Lamar wouldn't be as special. Allen would have won SB. Allen has played like an MVP during postseason while Lamar has choked. Check the stats.
@jdajayi92 Boo-hoo. The Ravens have drafted 3 WR in first round since Lamar was drafted. Nobody else has drafted more than 1.
@jdajayi92 You've been brainwashed by the black community to think if someone doesn't kiss your azz, they are racist. 😆
BTW - the NFL is 2/3 black. If anyone should scream bias, it should be all of the other people in America. How does 13% of the population have 2/3 of the players in NFL. Bias.
Of course Dan puts the “pressure on Lamar” 😂😂😂 he’s a Josh Agent. Who cares.
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Lamar is a 2 time mvp who melts down every single year in the playoffs. If Josh was in his situation he would get the exact treatment
Jackson also has to face the Steelers, Texans, and Browns, which is a very tough final schedule. Meanwhile, Allen gets 3 free games against the Patriots twice and Jets. Allen could very easily put up another dozen TDs to close out the year.
You mean the guy who also hasn’t done anything in the playoffs with no mvps?
@itsP00CHI3 you just made my point he hasnt won a mvp. Lamar has two and never done anything in the playoffs and Josh atleast always plays well in the playoffs besides that Bengals loss where he played like Lamar 😂😂
Lamar has 3 games this season with a perfect passer rating and the 3 interceptions he has are all drops by his receivers. If you wanna say Josh Allen is more valuable than that because of the Bills record thats up to you but let’s not get that confused with who’s the best player. Lamar is better than him and to me it’s not close
You, sir, are a truth teller
Big facts! Lamar makes smart decisions with the ball, makes better reads, is a monster running out of the pocket, etc. Allen just has a big arm (not accurate either)
Bias everywhere. A bunch of racists throwing trash on the internet. Cleanup on isle five. No wonder we have problems.
I would not be too mad if Lamar got opoy and josh got mvp but I want MVP for Lamar Fasho
Technically only 1 but he was so close the other 2 times, i would give it to him as well. 158.1 against Bucs and 154 against the Giants and 158.3 against Broncos. And he had 3 perfect passer ratings last season as well!! Lamar is lowkey CRAZY with it!! Ppl really taking what we're witnessing in real time for granted!!!
They want the great white hope to be that guy so bad😂😂
I bet just about everybody on the ESPN staff is praying the Ravens lose to Pittsburgh. Especially Dan Orlovsky, Jeff Saturday and SA S💩IT.🤡
Facts bro. Lamar is beating him in almost every category
Josh Allen has only beaten two playoff teams this season…. Every other win he has this season are against teams not making the playoffs. His division is the weakest in the AFC. DID WE FORGET THE 9/31 game THIS SEASON from Josh. Like guys to say it’s OVER is crazy narrative push.
heres the other narrative I also despise... they are so impressed by this dudes 1yd TDs!!! gtfoh!!!! When Jalen started it, "Lets get it out of the NFL" now Josh is the most amazing rushing TDs QB !! ... 1yd freaking tush pushes
@ right. Then to be like Josh has 11 rush touchdowns 😂😂. Okay so what lol. Lamar leads the NFL in almost every QB category oh yea and is on pace to rush for almost 1000 yards. Like stop it! Is Josh in the lead right now, yes. We lost all our defensive coaches and 3 OL in the off season and we have a past his prime RB and Lamar is about to have the best QB season in the history of the NFL. Wild.
He threw all over the Chiefs
@ so he wins the MVP bc he beat the chiefs and a lions team that was missing 13 starters on DEFENSE alone lol. Got it.
It was a 9 of 30 game, but no it’s not forgotten. Also not forgotten were Ravens’ losses to the Raiders and Browns, especially the Raider game which was at home and one of just two wins the Raiders have had all season.
Dan thought he was doing some by saying “let me squash this” 🤣
The media refuses to learn they lesson. Give lamar more motivation by the minute.
Yeah that’s worked out real well when he’s faced the Steelers the last couple times 😂
@shawnauringer1654 and where has that gotten the steelers 🤔. Beating us is like biting a poison apple in the desert.
@@TheoDan-bc6fdthe afc north title…
Lamar is over rated. ESPN loves him for obvious reasons.
@@TheoDan-bc6fd"and where has that gotten the Steelers?". In the winners circle. I thought that was the point of playing?
I dont know why Lamar just didnt run out of the endzone. We know thats a good option.
😂😂😂
Ikr 😂
Dan 🤔🤣
I mean Lamar is Poor against the Steelers but the whole team also crumbles. WR had 7 passs drops including 3 TD drop last season. This season they had over 100 yard of penality which makes it harder to move the chain because every first down was getting pulled back. Justin Tucker missing multiple FGS
💯 💯 💯
No one wants to talk about or remember this.
I don't easily subscribe to conspiracies but some in the media are definitely playing their part in making it seem like they're colluding to give the award to Josh SIMPLY bc he never won it & not stats, facts or compelling arguments.
So Lamar is poor against the Steelers with 7 drops??
@@FlyTyBlizzyHe just have his worst game against the Steelers. Yes last season that wasn’t fully on him but at the same time he underperforms against the Steelers and it’s definitely a mental thing for the whole team.
“Lamar is poor against the Steelers” … then proceeds to list the reasons he’s not. Idiot 😂
Whenever Josh Allen has a good game or stretch, it’s the biggest D riding in all of sports by the media. They want him to win so bad🤣🤣🤣 ill root for chiefs before bills
As a Ravens fan, I need this team to take the rivalry more seriously. Unfortunately, we’re not coached well enough to beat teams like Pittsburgh and Kansas City. And even if we win the division, what does it matter if we can can’t perform well in the playoffs? Most frustrating team in the league, man.
If we win on Saturday, I don't think we're going to lose another game. Because the Steelers and Chiefs use the same defensive formula to beat us, and if we can exploit that on Saturday, its game over for the rest of the AFC. From how I see it, the reason we can't perform in the playoffs is because we can't beat the Steelers. Every team that has beaten us including Kansas City has used THEIR FORMULA on how to beat us. Difference between another dud in the playoffs, and a 3rd Lombardi is going to be this game.
@ I hope you are right, my friend.
Yeah, def all on coaching. Lol. It's not like Lamar scores 40 and loses. He chokes.
Ravens don’t deserve Lamar won’t give him a receiver.
@@ktv9247 Great, thats not the main problem. The problem has been the Offensive Line especially in pass blocking!
With the remaining schedule, the pressure is on pittsburgh to win on saturday to win the division
Not really. All pressure is on Baltimore - If they lose they have 0 chance to win division. If Steelers lose they still control their own destiny.
Lamar’s team only wins when he has a rating of 114 or higher. That’s the MVP. Josh won a game throwing 0 TDs and 2 INT. Lamar does that and they get blown out
Wow didn't know allen finished a game like that but that's who they said is mvp huh? Lamar never had a 0-2 TD/INT game
So stats and head to head don’t matter I see in the mvp
Factz
Lamar shouldn't even care anymore honestly, he has two already not like he doesn't have any...Lamar concern should be dominating in the playoffs and getting to a SB...That's it that's ALL
He has 2 already??? Tf does that have to do with Anything? He wants to he the best every year and mvp is the award that is given…. He wants it all and he should. To say he doesn’t care is stupid, will he be sad if he doesn’t get it, no. But if Allen wins this year it will be due to voter fatigue, the equivalent of participation trophy. BTW, I have noticed haters have adopted this sentiment and have been spreading it throughout the TH-cam comment sections
@spiritualwarexposed3145 No if he keeps winning MVPs with no chips, then at that point it becomes a participation trophy...Don't nobody give af if you got 8 MVP awards fool, where them rings at?? Tf yall be talking about
So they loose by 2..miss 2fieldgoals and 3 fumbels and its still lamar's fault😂😂😂
Still lost
Also 12 penalties
Don’t forget an extra too as well.
Interesting how Joh Harbaugh has no pressure in this game when Tomlin has OWNED him even before Lamar was even a Raven
If the Steelers would line up Darnell Washington outside more their passing offense would be so much better or get him running more routes on passing downs
lol how is the mvp race over? Because Dan orlovski said so? 😂This is why espn is dying. WHO cares what Dan has to say? This need to give josh this make a wish mvp is nuts. How about this for a narrative? Josh and Lamar played this season and Josh looked like hot garbage
Exactly
Look at the odds, Dan doesn’t set the odds goof. Allen’s like -900 to win it
hey espn i think your analytics graphic came out a little messed up😂
4k passing yards, 1k rushing yards, 3rd highest qbr all time, with worst defense. Huh???
Worst defence? 😂😂
This is why You should just play Your game. When LJ was running, YALL criticized Him. Now that LJ is staying in pocket, YALL screaming run. UNBELIEVABLE !
Did you see the game last night Denver vs The Chargers with those white QBs running. Let's see the narrative tomorrow morning about what they're going to say about that😅
Can’t make it up. Good game glad to see Chargers pull it out. I’m a big Harburg fan, I root for Herbert to though He might be a bust. That D Mack James jr Bosa Dupree 💪🏾
Lamar beat Josh this season. Handed them their first LOSS of the season.
If the ravens lose again to the Steelers Harbaugh needs to be fired this offseason
Orlovsky must have a pic of Josh Allen beside his bed
@@chaytiano6896 No he doesn’t!! It’s above the bed and 1 more in the shower 😂
LAMAR HATE GOES CRAZY DAN IS A JOKE
People love to put Pressure on Lamar Jackson it's always a must win for 2x MVP maybe a Brown Skin QB thing .....SmH
Dan Orlovsky is doing everything for Josh Allen to win the MVP. Remember he's 1 of the 50 voters for the MVP award.🤔
The fact that no blame has been placed on Justin Tucker who hss missed numerous important game and strategy changing kicks is never mentioned..Josh Allen makes a mistake the blame is solely placed on someone else..no matter what he does..Lamar has to be the quarterback the running back the wide receiver of the cornerback the safety the coach play caller and if any special teams blunders happens is somehow Lamar Jackson's fault as well..this is why he is the MVP because of overwhelmingly Prejudice and bias opinions are spewing blame on everybody except Josh Allen when it's usually his fault..
Facts
This is the game of the week anytime these two teams play. Always a toss up. Always a good game. Always a physical game.
This Josh Allen narrative is honestly disgusting. Media couldn’t stomach ANOTHER Lamar MVP. Mind you this is all being said the same exact week Lamar threw 5 touchdowns, which was more than his amount of incompletions. Not to mention that Lamar absolutely smoked Allen in their head to head. Allen got rested for the last quarter they were losing so bad…. Not to mention Lamer is leading Allen in every major statistic. These people and their narrative man….
The downside of being on a list with the 2020 Packers, 2018 Chiefs and 2007 Patriots is that none of those teams won the Super Bowl.
It’s on the OC to call the games tailored to LJs strength and it’ll benefit the entire organization. Do yall realize BAL has been top 3 rushing NFL since LJ has been starter including league leading 4x. This run game is fueled by LJ. With DH it just goes to another level, but you have to use LJs running ability, which they had greatly reduced until last week vs NY. The Giants might suck as a team but they’re still pros and BAL had them all over the place and off balance defensively. It’s because the OC ran more zone/option reads than they have all year. You have to utilize his running ability! And it’s not to have him go for 100 but it’s to make defenses respect and account for him potentially running EVERY play. When teams account for him running, the game becomes a true 11v11 as opposed to a 10v11 with a non running threat at QB. If BAL stays true, they have their best chance ever because DH is the primary beneficiary of the attention LJ gets at mesh point on the reads.
The Eagles own the AFC North🦅🦅🦅
You Haven't Even Brushed Your Teeth Yet🤣💀 Shut Your Mouth And Get Ready For Work... Them Burgers Ain't Gonna Flip Themselves, Sport.
Blow out. Mark it. Ravens win by 17+
Not exactly but....
Josh Allen is playing really well. Lamar leads him in almost every category but let Josh have the award man. We cant give it to the same 2 people every year. Next year we can give it to Burrow, Herbert or someone
The Ravens haven't lost by more than 7 points all season, yet somehow it always falls on Lamar. It's funny because the defense was pretty shaky at the start, and Justin Tucker actually missed 7 field goals in their 5 losses. Two of those games were close, with him missing multiple kicks, and if they had won those, they would have matched the Bills' win record. 🤔
How can anyone say that Josh Allen is clearly the leader as the MVP. 7 out of 11 of the Bills wins are against teams with losing records. 5 of the Ravens 9 wins are against playoff bound teams, while the Ravens were up by double digits in the 4th quarter in 2 of their loses and had 2 missed field goals in a 2 point third loss. Lamar is statistically putting up historical numbers. He’s leading Josh in every statistical category except rushing touchdowns which are more push tush. Lamar has the highest quarterback rating in the NFL history right now. To add insult to injury, Lamar crushed Josh in the head to head matchup. Sincerely, what’s the real agenda for putting Josh ahead of Lamar in this MVP race?
Sit TJ and GP. Get them ready for the Bengals and a road playoff game. As long as the Steelers win in the post season.
Half of these comments are about Josh Allen Jesus Christ ravens fans so insecure worry about what’s in front of you
You already said the office stinks .. How more judgment can you cast ???Your takes man . I told you im on your heals . Danny
I think guys continue to ignore the element of TJ Watt in his face and Minkah hovering around in the secondary. Lamar should win every game as if the other team doesn't have a first ballot HoF chasing him.
these not catchable passes???? y’all want him to play wr too 😂😂
Dan Orlovsky is doing everything for Josh Allen to win the MVP. Remember he's 1 of the 50 voters for the MVP award.🤔
Lamar 🔥 does NOT care about the MVP3 title😏 He’s chasing bigger things🏆 The voters/media have been pushing for Josh Allen for 3 consecutive YEARS…and he wasn’t even close last year💜🏈🖤
Allen got benched this year against the ravens, then went 9-30.
He can't throw and catch the ball! It's not him it's the rest of the offense! When you drop over half your passes!? It's not him it's others
He's showing Lamar bad plays because he is doing everything for Josh Allen to win that MVP.😮
Lamar Lamar Lamar no harbaugh no Tucker no defense 😂😂 Lamar have to throw, catch, kick the field goal, catch a INT n throw 5tds every game
Didn't harbaugh and tucker win a super bowl without lamar? 😂
@ then why is Lamar taking all the heat…. We have a superbowl winning coach n a kicker who been trash all season what’s goin on
@Change4good7 he took the big bucks, so now he has to live with it
@@matthewwilliams4168 he took the big bucks in exchange of a hall of fame career many have never n 2 MVP with many more years to come I would be grateful if I was the ravens they will sell out every game the rest of his career…
@Change4good7 selling out stadiums doesn't give you a gold jacket and greatness is defined what you do when it matters
Media really really really want to give josh allen the mvp.
Yes
When will people understand it's not a one man sport 😂 hoops and football fans have that horrible mindset
The same Jeff Saturday who couldn't keep the head coaching job in Indy
Hey EPSN why didnt you do a cool video with RC and Rodgers? Usually get heaps of highlight clip videos from you guys. My vac status is ''got it cos If not I would be fired''. Bring RC up, I heard he eats his steaks with Schefty and the both eat with ketchup and sideways.
He deserves the pressure. He needs to put up or shut up. 12 points isnt enough. You need to come out strong and give an MVP effort. 4 TD passes. If he cant win, go back to middle of the pack.
Cant score more than 10 at home in AFC Championship Game. Chokes in big games with lots at stake.
I remember Lamar fist full season as starter the media was calling for defenses to literally Hit and Hurt Lamar
Dan and this green guy should just bring the mvp🏆to Allen…why bother vote….these clowns just gagging for Allen.🤮🤮🤮
You mad Lamar not even winning his division 😂
Why are we even listening to Dan trying to criticize a qb that is 200x the qb he Ever was.
Didn’t he only play like a handful of games and throw a bunch of pics when he played?? Dan sucked as a quarterback lol
Not the 0-16 Dan 😂
didn’t this dude run out of the back of the end zone ?
TWICE... in 2008 and YESTERDAY.🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The media hates Lamar especially espn. Pressure is always on Lamar from week 1 lol when Allen went 9/30 it was quiet. Lamar has a kicker that lost them every game lol the funniest is when Dan said Joe burrows fumbled weren’t his fault but everything is Lamar’s fault
every week the pressure is on lamar jackson, please go treat the other MVP winners and heisman holders like this.. or is that only for lamar ?
Steelers is this man’s Kryptonite 😂😂😂😂😂😂 we need to beat they a.. Saturday.
Stop it with this Bo nix rookie of the year JD5 has it lock oh stop it
Bills propaganda
Saquon gets an extra game...aint no real rushing record unless he breaks it in week 17
He needs playoffs wins not no regular season wins.
Is Greeny no longer host of Greeny?
Last year in the first game against the Steelers Lamar should have thrown for over 300 yards and 3 + touchdowns if the receivers didn’t drop a legitimate 8 drops including 3 easy touchdowns. It was one of the worst performances.
Every game besides the giants game has been a must win to these guys lmaoooo
Skipping 2019 in Dan’s recap when Lamar won MVP with Willie Snead as receiver 1 is laughable and screams fitting the narrative and the refusal to show a graphic of their stats side by side this season on television just say yall want Josh to win one to keep pace with Lamar and mahomes in the continuing conversations of their careers and spare us the theatrics
Dan is a goofy
You disregard it the same way you disregard Westbrook triple double seasons
Here we go the same guy saying how bad the Steelers are going to suck because we got one hurt player and yet we won last week and we tend to win and keep winning and you guys tend to hate and keep hating I don't o understand Tomlin finds a way to win we've been talking about that all season when are you guys going to wake up and smell the coffee jeez this is exhausting already
Wish Lamar got to play the pats and the jets twice a year
Dan should be running out of the back of the endzone or something!!
Dan Orlovsky, Mina Kimes, Teddy Bruschi and Acho are 4 of the 50 voters for MVP. Sorry Lamar. Sorry Lamar.😥
Dan Orlovsky thinks he's so slick. He's not showing Lamar how to play he's showing the Steelers what to watch out for.🤡
Soooo for the ravens they NEED IT, but their better then us overall... yall are extremely biased... steelers are trying to start something new. Ravens been losing the same way for 5 to 6 yrs...tf we talking about.. the media wants the ravens to win because they're more popular😂😂media sux
Greeny totally sucks at bets and predictions!! I would take that bet!!! Lamar ain't bouta be disrespected like that!! Yall going too far!! To say he totally locked up the award when there's 3 games left is insane and disrespectful!
Without Pickens the Steelers will lose the game. Russell really needs him.!!
I don’t want to see 8 try & play hero ball. take the check downs. When it’s there , Lamar needs to RUN. we know what you can do throwing , go be YOU.
Dan orlovsky really says some nonsense sometimes. Says the Steelers have no shot without George Pickens well I recall the first game against Cleveland we lost and Pickens was in that game, we replayed them two weeks later and we beat them, without George Pickens, this is being said bc of their loss against the Eagles which had nothing to do with Pickens not being there bc the game was lost once Najee Harris gave the game away. At that very moment the score was 20 to 13 and the Steelers were on Philadelphia's 26 yard line . They didn't lose that game because George Pickens wasn't playing..
This is hilarious. Lamar leads Allen in every single stat category except for rushing TDs. He's played better than Allen this year but Tucker has lost the Ravens 2 games and his teammates penalties cost them other games. Ravens could easily be 1 loss right now and then there would be no question Lamar is MVP yet again.
Are stats more important than wins?
The ravens/lamar fans are some of the most sensitive on planet earth 😂 he routinely chokes against real teams in important games its ok to point that out
.....his record against playoff teams, and the amount he typically wins by, is amazing lol the TEAM just seems to choke against the Chiefs and Steelers specifically. Look at all the other playoff teams they've blown out the last couple seasons lol Bills Lions 49ers Dolphins (when they were good last year) Broncos Chargers Seahawks Bengals (over and over) etc. Are those not important games against real teams? Lamar has beaten them all by multiple scores, some by 20-40 points. You're just parroting this nonsense narrative about how he doesn't play well in big games lol learn to think for yourself
@ important games = playoffs games or games that have playoff implications
@@curticusmaximus I'd say just the Steelers because Kansas City has used the exact same formula that Mike Tomlin has used every single time, and it works. And its just like how the Colts and Patriots did the same thing to Flacco. Believe me, if we win on Saturday Night, we're not going to lose another game because a giant mental hurdle would be lifted off of our shoulders, and we will be as loose as we've ever been in the Lamar Era going forward.
Bro said saquan isn’t the most valuable player on the eagles. Put down the weeeeeeeeed!!! 🤣
Cant take them serious anymore . Lamar is the MVP ...
😂
As a eagles fan, Josh Allen had one of the greatest 40 point games I’ve ever seen in my life. Then had another 40 point game the following week. He’ll be near unanimous MVP
If justin tucker stop missing kicks and the recievers/rbs stop fumbling they will win. Plus lamar is using his legs more now after his mother cussed him out for not running. The team is doing drills to protect the ball from punch outs so we will see what happens this time now
Steelers beat Ravens with Kenny Picket… they’ll be fine without Pickens
Wow everyone forgets if we make 2 field goals that game is won. And the steelers were held to no tds. Pls guyz
And if the Steelers 6’8” puts his hands up you lose by two scores 🤡
Why do they call it an MVP award when all the tv pundits are making it a QB award. Why other positions have to break a record in order to be MVP? makes no sense😊
Not worst than ur offense when u was 0-16 Dan.
Idk how you win MVP with 3 games left.
Drops, league leading penalties, 8 missed kicks.....but its lamar.....mainstream sucks
These dudes suck if he wins it doesn’t matter because it’s not the playoffs they change the narrative by the day
Lamar is not bad against the steelers Tomlin game plans to stop him harbaugh gets out coached doesn't give Ravens offense a plan to exploit the steelers defensive weaknesses
I've lost ALL RESPECT For DO for this ridiculous take!
Dan should’ve put pressure on himself to become a better QB… lol AROD was right. These Dan can’t hold a candle to LJ’s career
Josh Allen is by far better than Lamar Jackson. People are blinded by Jackson ability to run the ball. I would rather pick Hurts over Jackson hands down.
If anyone should win MVP it’s either Allen or Barkley.