As I have been telling everybody around me for over 30 years now, the Industrial Age is ending, whether we like it or not, because nobody has ever done what it would have taken to make it sustainable, because that would have completely ended any kind of economic growth ages ago, and the rich wouldn't have liked that at all. The only way to slow down the decline of our civilisation so that people might still adapt to things constantly getting worse and begin to build a new type of civilisation that can take over while the old one crumbles is so radical that it probably won't happen in time - global revolution against Capitalism.
the only solution there's ever been to climate change is for industrial civilization to collapse causing billions of deaths thank God that's around the corner
Homo Colossus is finished. The days of the 1% owning 99% of Earth's resources are over. It's all crashing down now. Humans can't possibly survive this.
I am absolutley fed up hearing this all the time, all the climate models seem to be corrupted, far too conservative estimates, not counting in numerous sources of influences
@@chrissnyder3430 Thumbs up. I agree with your spirit of skepticism. It's always the best place to start. But consider the most obvious fact of all, which is that we treat our thin atmosphere like an open sewer. Co2 levels rise continuously. It stimulates plant growth, but too much of this good thing has backfired. The rate of change of these growing levels of Co2 is what is causing warming to be problematic, for ecosystems, and extreme weather events. Even the jet stream has changed, and the change is a scary one. Understanding these facts are enough for me to not dwell too much on this predicament. Live one day at a time, and make the best of it, while you still can. Yet be as conscientious as you can, while realizing you can't change the world.
The truth about this doesn't come from the government. It comes from the scientific community, and even that can often underestimate the severity of the climate crisis. @@chrissnyder3430
I find myself getting into conversations less and less lately! Inevitably speaking about the future will come up…… that stops me dead…. Excuse me!!! Has everyone forgotten the horror that awaits us concerning our global extinction????
If you don’t talk about it, it doesn’t exist. Whenever I start a serious conversation about it, someone will always say “ That is too depressing, let’s talk about something else !” Then they are back to funny baby videos on Tik Tok. It seems the prevailing attitude is don’t think, don’t rock the boat, just keep your eyes on the lemming’s ass right in front of you and keep running. I don’t think we are going to fix this. It is coming and will come much faster than anybody thought it could. My guess is we don’t even have five years left before it becomes completely unglued.
@@jayleeper1512 That’s what vegans feel like when they try to explain or show what is happening behind the walls of slaughter houses and animal farms. They are immediately told, “That’s too depressing. I don’t want to hear or see the reality of it. I’d rather not know. Besides it can’t be that bad. If it was, someone would do something about it. Let’s watch a cat video instead.” Same experience.
@@ImproveYourMagic I agree, the modern corporate production of food is disgusting and horrible. The production of food crops is not exempt as it requires the massive destruction of habitats to create crop land, the massive use of chemicals and pesticides to keep the mono culture alive and the slaughter of birds and wildlife that come to feed on the crops that have replaced their natural food sources. My family used to run a small beef herd but we made sure the animals lived a happy secure life and were killed quickly and humanely. I no longer grow beef and have returned most of my land back to timberland and wildlife habitat. Mine is an island of forest in the midst of corporate farmland. Every year, I harvest a deer or elk from my land for food and payback by providing them food and a place to live. I also grow a huge garden organically and buy as little processed food as l possibly can. I think for the world to survive, people need to quit spending their lives working and consuming, become closer to nature and learn to produce their own food. Being slaves to a corporate work ethic and spending their lives mindlessly accumulating worthless crap that is destined to end up in a landfill is destroying the planet and will lead to the ultimate collapse. That you have become vegan indicates that you care about the earth and the environment and this is a path you should continue on. I have found that veganism is not for me but I attempt to make my dietary choices as aligned with the natural environment as I can. If people expect the world to survive and continue, everyone will have to do this.
In my opinion - and I’ve been saying this since December 2008, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING - - ANYTHING, at least that is going to make ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE END TO THE OUTCOME. We have made absolutely, positively no progress whatsoever to reducing greenhouse gas emissions SINCE the 1992 Climate Summit in Rio de Janeiro. Not only have emissions continue to go up/and more importantly - GREENHOUSE GAS CONCENTRATIONS WHICH ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT - have continued to go up, year-over-year, AND, • The more they go up, THE FASTER THEY GO UP, AND… • The faster they go up, THE MORE THEY GO UP - FASTER, and the faster they go up, the more they go up. • If this were ‘Mechanics’ in a the sense of ‘Physics’, what we are talking about here is not Velocity or Acceleration, but the NEXT DERIVATIVE - EVEN THE RATE OF CHANGE OF ACCELERATION IS GOING UP… FASTER. We are going to be able to get ourselves out of this mess: • We cannot and we will not bring ourselves to reign in consumption of fossil fuels because - forget about money/profits to be made, if we tried to do so, the global economy would collapse. The banking system would go into cardiac arrest - and it almost certainly still will within a two years at most, and • The global financial system goes into cardiac arrest, Global Supply Chains virtually instantly ‘grind to a halt’. • AND, if that were to happen at that scale as a consequence - we would not be able to Reboot the Supply Chain System fast enough to save ourselves. Quite literally, if the global financial system cannot keep operating… CANNOT KEEP OPERATING - NOT MISS A BEAT - WE DIE. It cannot afford to be down for even a couple of hours because if that happened, we would die. Massive pileup/rear end collisions in the supply chain - we just got a very small taste of that when Covid 19 came to town. Imagine something a couple of orders of magnitude worse. With Covid at least, the global financial system soldiered on. But Totaled all up - overly - Total Global Debt is reportedly somewhere around 380% of Global ‘GDP’. (Call it ‘GWP’). LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY OFF THROUGH ECONOMIC GROWTH. And were not going to be able to get economic growth because of Consumable Energy Shortages and/or aggravated by Rising Energy Prices. Central banks in Western nations are raising lending rates - as I’m sure you’ve noticed. And that is making things worse. People have no money to spend - it is estimated that 57% of US citizens could not even come up with $1000 to handle some unexpected expense to something as fundamental and important as auto repairs that were not anticipated. The US is BANKRUPT. It is ‘scrambling like mad’ - since it’s plan and hoped-for dream of somehow or other seeing a government installed in Russia which would be ‘friendly’ towards the United States and to a lesser degree, Great Britain, MEANING that it would take orders from Washington and London AND run the country for the benefit of the Ruling Class/American Oligarchs and big corporations. What’s really keeping the US going here is THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED TO - AT LEAST NEEDED TO IN THE PAST WHICH IS NOW BECOMING INCREASINGLY UNLIKELY - effectively acquire - the keyword being EFFECTIVELY - ownership/control of the vast wealth that exists within the nation of Russia in order to be able to ‘add it to the balance sheet’ of USA Inc., TO PROP UP THE US DOLLAR in order to be able to continue to live off cheap imports from foreign nations. But it’s not working out that way. SO, NOW WHAT’S GOING ON IS THE US IS DESPERATELY SCRAMBLING TO INTRODUCE A DIGITAL CURRENCY - A CBDC - because the fully intend and are currently in the process of - if you understand these things - DEFAULTING on international debt obligations. Countries around the world are figuring this out and are bailing out in many cases of the US dollar as fast as they can. It’s a race against time. ASSUMING THE US CAN SUCCESSFULLY DO THIS and somehow rather still managed to ‘hold it altogether domestically’. At some point. Likely in the not-too-distant future, foreign investors are going to slowdown and stop and not wanting to purchase US treasuries and the holes system will come apart if the US can pick handled its way through it. Every indication to me looks like we are on the verge of the/a Great Depression 2.0 - one which probably be a lot worse than the Great Depression back in the nineteen thirties. What did it take to get out of that? World War II. Care to guess what’s coming?
You left out the impact of all the shopping. Bdays, anniversaries, valentines days, and the all mighty Black Fridays and Xmass season to close out 4th fiscal quarters.
On a lighter note, the depression was ending before the US entered WWII. Correlation is not cause. No one has ever explained how killing off hundreds of thousands of young strong smart men and turning all manufacturing of consumer goods to war effort improves the economy.
Well that may be the longest comment I've ever seen on TH-cam or any other website. And unfortunately you are absolutely correct, we are totally screwed and there's no fixing it now😢
The level of financial commitment to continued fossil fuel extraction is mind-blowing considering we are supposed to be in a climate "emergency". It is hard to see how there is any solution within the framework of capitalism where all these big decisions are made behind closed doors and a veil of "commercial secrecy" with parliamentarians either directly profiting or are paid off. We need a new form of social governance which extends to cover the processes of production, distribution and exchange and a democratic framework which is based on mass participation by working people. A tough ask I know but otherwise we are all fried.
It's pure stupidity and narcissistic selfishness that politicians are still committed to expanding fossil fuel use as we quickly go extinct. Don't worry, the politicians, their corrupt systems, and everyone they know is going to boil like lobsters until they take their last breath.
What about the "have nots" of the world? They are on the road to cancelling out whatever sacrifices Capitalist countries can gallently come up with. It's their turn, and they are getting slammed by the sins of the devoloped countries.
I think that we can’t solve the problem with the economy that caused it. Proposal that fixes that very problem. Look up Carbon Quantitative Easing. Can’t figure out why everyone isn’t demanding it.
What happened in Hawaii is coming to every town, city, and state in the world. Our politicians are just plain stupid and don't care about Life on Earth. All they care about is their fleeting temporal power and money. It's pathetic and sad being a member of this fallen and soon to be extinct race of selfish animals.
that pilot and alot of other locals were betrayed by the political leaders who the record shows ignored multiple studies warning about the high risks of fire on Maui. That betrayal is a microcosm of whats happening globally,all over the World so called leaders are failing to cut GHG emissions.
@@sam-fc9ky Oh don't be a spanner all your life eh. A "directed energy weapon" is right wing conspiracy bullshit that has no credible basis in science. Do you have any fucking idea of the amount of energy you would need to be able to generate in space to be able to fire an energy beam over a distance of at least 70 bloody kilometers through atmospheric layering to be able to have a reasonable effect on the ground? a shitload more than our best methods of energy generation in space can manage. And that doesn't even begin to deal with the gaping problem of how you would maintain a focussed beam over that distance. Star wars has no basis in reality, drop the bullshit.
If the survival of the human species is predicated upon Humankind's ability to attain peace the cause is hopeless, which is quite obviously the situation on the Earth.
The best way to determine if global warming is a problem is global ice melting and rising sea levels. I have been watching the same stretch of coast for more than 50 years and nothing has happened.
@@NeutronStar-r7r sea level rise is SLOW, imperceptible to the Human eye. It's a Red Herring, always has been. Besides, it's about growing food. Photosynthesis doesn't happen at 100 degrees F, and that's just Chemistry .....
Thank you Peter, Paul, and Dale. We need your voices and truth! Keep the alarm bells ringing and enjoy each day we have left to the fullest. I don’t see a way out or political will to change things.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
You know who says that if we reach "net zero" by 2050 that the heating will immediately reverse? Michael Mann! I know we are all supposed to be on the same side, but when someone like this goes on all the TV shows and lies to everyone just to sell their book, someone needs to call that out. This is why everyone is confused!
Michael Mann is doing whatever he can get to motivate people to do something, anything. If that means providing people with a false hope that's fine so long as someone does something. That it is already too late is a difficult thing to say.
@@PimpinNinja2U everyone acknowledged that World War I was so terrible that war wouldn't happen anymore, guess how effectively the experience of millions of Europeans dying in trench warfare was at ending war?
Interesting, because in the 70's we were heading into a new ice age according to the science experts. IN the 80's, I remember being told all the vegetation would be dead by the year 2000 because of acid rain. Then there was the giant hole in the ozone layer. Whatever you do? Don't watch "An Inconvenient Truth" again. The amount of predictions made in that movie that should have happened already but didn't IS quite inconvenient for climate crisis believers.
@@adammillwardart7831 consider that Lahaina is gone, 1000 Canadian wildfires currently burn, California has been hit with a cat 1 hurricane, Florida oceans measured 101 degrees Fahrenheit, Phoenix nearly doubled its record of consecutive days exceeding 110, etc, etc, etc. It saddens me how stupid you are.
I have survived 100 plus degree days without air-conditioning because i live in a well insulated house. (Straw Bale) I just have to open the windows at night, but it is getting harder with these hot nights. Insulation works both ways, if I can't cool off at night the heat stays in the house. Not sleeping well is already a serious health issue for me. I'm not looking forward to the next 30 years. We are going to suffer for our sins.
You will have to dig-in, literally. Make a safe room, down in the soil, about 5 feet down, where it's under 60 degrees. Alternatively, bury a large diameter pipe, 5 feet down, and force air through it, to get cool air.
My mentor in Permaculture, Bill Mollison, 35 years ago said to our class and he is spot on "that the greatest confrontational issue we will face in the future of our species is the shifting of paradigms" Amazingly I still get here and there comments from loud voiced and mockingly smiling critics of my discussions that I am talking nonsense which unfortunately has an effect upon all the fence sitters in the room. People do not like what they don't understand. I am tired of trying to persuade others with valid information as they pick holes, jump puddles, scramble up banks, hide in thickets, huddle in their darkness.....anything but see the obvious. We are destined to suffer the four horsemen and I am afraid. Very afraid.
Your life is a finite resource but mandatory starvation won't add another minute, will it? So why would you condemn the world to a New Dark Ages? Nature and Cornell Ornithology just finished their annual Northern Tier songbird count, and stated the toxic bT GMO corn/soy 'renewable biofuels'(sic) plantations _are SIXTH EXTINCTION for all wildlife._ No chirp, no croak, no howl, dead, lifeless nuked biofuels plantations. The same goes for solar fields, if you've never seen them. The ground is soaked in toxic herbicides and covered in tiny dead skeletons.
The United States Congress is not comprehending this international emergency, Fossil fuel use must be cut by 90 percent immediately. Our children must survive. Our planet must rely on solar energy and wind mostly entirely from now on.
This conversation is the real information. I'm not even sure how many people can accept what's being said here, but it is the unvarnished truth. Seems so hard for humanity to look the monster in the eye and do something substantial about it, but that's what's needed.
If people took the “doom mongers”, aka realists, seriously then I for one would feel a greater sense of hope. People should derive hope from the “doom mongers”, not from the eternal optimists.
Things can get worse, like next year and the people responsible are not idiots. They are criminally insane. They believe that political turmoil will trigger nuclear planetary suicide before abrupt climate change will kill us. They are the ones with their finger on the nuclear button. They are probably right.
Hard pill to swallow. I've accepted it but can see why so many refuse to believe it. Especially if one has kids. I've chosen not to have kids. I think I've always known if this makes sense to anyone
I live in the middle of hundreds of miles of cornfields. After seeing what happened in Maui, it makes me wonder if the croplands of the Midwest could one day be in danger of wildfires.
NASA say its irreversible, saying that corn will eventually be worth a lot more in the near future , you can see the food chain starting to break down , we are right at the beginning of this, it will get far worse, its a difficult call for you
The area burned in Canada is now bigger than the entire state of Maine. 39,000 square miles and growing. The Boreal forest carbon sink is now emitting vast C02. WASF
Farmers in Kansas and Nebraska are getting destroyed right now. I suspect when the water in the Ogalala Aquifer goes dry it will be largely game over for a few 100 million people. The US feeds over 900 million people with our food exports now. How many will die in the 2024, 2025, 2026 from famine?
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=War and neglect cause Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 which begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Beyond 2030, Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
@@sedonars1well that is very well said and probably the most accurate comment on this whole video. We are totally screwed and people have no idea how quickly it's going to happen 😢
Same like I actually just don't have hope. I mean we'd need like everyone in every country to simultaneously hold a joint strike demanding radical change. That's the only thing I can think would avert this. And basically people are to individualistic now so it's not gonna happen.
@@williampatton7476 You’re right about striking. And you’re right that not enough people would do it. You wanna see a magic trick? Go to your calendar and circle February 2024, and write down Record global temperature of 1.7 Celsius. Then in March you can wonder how I was so prophetic six months prior! It’ll last a few days and be in the news so you won’t miss it. Everyone needs to lose hope. Accept our failure at preventing Abrupt Runaway Climate Change. (How can we stop something that is abrupt and runaway?) Losing hope will lead people into action. And there will be a different kind of hope to refocus our energy. We’ll still be totally F’d. No way around that. But we can better manage the chaos and prevent mass hysteria if we take action and plan. Then we can move the conversation towards asking the important questions that actually matter. Q: How F’d are we? A: We are totally F’d. Q: How F’d are the plants, animals, and insects? A: Because we’ve been slaughtering them. there food supply and habitats for a few centuries. Species are gonna be super F’d. Q: What resources should we use to try and save Marine life? A: None. Marine life have zero chances. (Except maybe Jelly fish) Q: 100 nuclear power plants are within expected Sea Level rise. What should we do? A: Since it takes 50-60 years to decommission a nuclear plant, we’d better start now. Q; How much time do we have to prepare for 2.5 Celsius. A: 2.5 in the year 2050. Only 27 years away) We’re wasting time talking about climate deniers, carbon sequestration, higher sea walls, recycling, etc. We are way past all that. Make sure you circle your calendar! Thank you for showing an interest in Climate Change and the rapid rise to 2.5 Celsius as we enter into the largest extinction event in Earth’s history!
What's missing from this excellent presentation, is how we live in an inverted totalitarian culture and economy. _Corporations are telling governments, the world over what's trump_ . To both men and lady host, KUDOS!
Well ladies and gentelmen, we did it. There is a chance nowhere else in the universe is there a species like us that has been able to see itself throught understanding the 13.78 billion year history of the universe. That is us and we appear to have made an unrepairable hole in the spaceship
Im not a scientist, just a single mum living in a council house (uk) trying to understand all this for the past 10 years or so. We have No car, try hard to use as little gas & eldctricity as possible, tryinv to keep food on the table and prepare my son for a future that im not convinced he will even get. Ive been sharing videos, voting as green as i can and hoping someone will listen. I dont have the time or capicity to ptotest, and everythibg om seeing says its too late anyway. I stumbled on guy mcpherson some years ago and hoped he was wrong about extinction , but although his timeline was a bit off, he dosent look extereme in his warnings anymore. At one time i though there was something i could 'do' but it's futile trying to be heard. Is it too late to try and get something done? What should i be shouting for ? Of is it time to just make memories?????
Find people who think as you do and take inspiration from the community of folks who care about the earth and each other. Deep Adaptation Forum, Global Earth Repair Foundation, etc.
Your diligence, consistency, exceedingly hard work most appreciated. But it looks like Guy McPherson had it right long ago--and many others before him. The Global Titanic is vertical, as humans scramble for yet more "gold bars." Sam Mitchell at Collapse Chronicles has had his head screwed on remarkably straight for a very long time. I am at least pleased that Nature is so solidly democratic, as she shakes off the disease of Homo suicidians. Love does appear to be all that remains--a tall order, but I do strongly encourage it.
Thank you both fr the truth telling. I wish sometimes there was more of an outing of what the underlying issue is. ie overshoot not just co2. It means a complete change in our culture, society and politics. simply replacing oil with solar is a fake solution.
Yes, but simply replacing oil with solar, wind, tidal etc combined with energy storage solutions … and nuclear power … WOULD be a solution. Solar energy would be an important component.
Overshoot is indeed the biggest problem. Too many of us bipeds running around consuming, wasting, and polluting. Unless we address this most important issue of reducing our numbers we are definitely doomed. And then nature will do the decreasing for the planet and it will be with a lot of suffering and devastation.
Thanks Pieter, Paul and Dale for working so hard to get out the truth. I live in Fairbanks Alaska, where we have had a lot of smoke but no fires in our neighborhood this last couple weeks. I know it’s coming. I’m going to try to prepare my property so that it’s defensible. This information has really helped me a lot! Can’t thank you enough!
Well yes, the history of humanity says we will go there. When people say we've come together when it really counts like WWII or the pandemic, you have to ask "did we really come together for the protection of all or some?" Science and technology are advancing rapidly but human nature doesn't really seem to be changing at all.
Nobody can imagine humanity being disappeared completely off one planet earth where history lessons about human primates are only for ALIEN 👽 👽 pioneers to discover someday way off into the future. Where no creature larger than a pencil eraser remains on earth.
Nature and Cornell Ornithology just finished their annual Northern Tier songbird count, and stated the toxic bT GMO corn/soy 'renewable biofuels'(sic) plantations _are SIXTH EXTINCTION for all wildlife._ No chirp, no croak, no howl, dead, lifeless nuked biofuels plantations. The same goes for solar fields, if you've never seen them. The ground is soaked in toxic herbicides and covered in tiny dead skeletons.
I doubt we will be here in 100 years. I feel this is it. If we cared we would have started years ago. Glad I did not have children nor did any of brothers and sisters.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
"This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body." -Walt Whitman
I am not sure why people keep saying this will be a problem for future generations. It is a problem now. How long will be able to grow food on large scale monocrop fields with fossil fuel driven machines and transport? How much longer will the climate and water supplies allow for this kind of food production before it fails? Do people really think we have decades left? Grow local food now to mitigate the hardships to come! Go vegan! Start a local food community. Grow potatoes instead of roses in your public areas in towns, etc. We can do some things to help ourselves at least mitigate some suffering.
Deep adaptation and living in small groups in land based local communities is the only way that a few humans might survive. You are on the right track. There is no hope of switching to "green" energy generation with High Tech. The Western corporate industrial system is collapsing and the sooner the better. Blessing to you - may we create some sanctuaries where ever we can.
At the risk of sounding like a downer. Mono cropping, local food forest, and permaculture will not grow in the weather of 2.5 Celsius. And even if it could, there are more guns in America than people. Those who grow can expect unwelcomed knocks upon their doors.
@@ImproveYourMagic I have to agree with you there. My feelings are simple. None of us get out of here alive - I am still going to make the most of this life experience and leave the theater singing. (Even if it's the Blues)
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
That's the problem. Government can care less about your kids or you. It's all about them. Always has been. That's why Government will spend millions to billions in political propaganda to stay in power- and not put any personal finances or efforts into the real world situations we are all seeing
There is much said about methane feedbacks but I never seem to see much said about the fact that water vapor is an effective greenhouse gas. As we warm greater amounts of water vapor accumulate in the atmosphere hence the extreme rain events we are now seeing. The excessive water vapor is surely helping to amplify the rate of warming and should be seen as a dangerous feedback.
One thing to consider is that when water vapor condenses in the mid upper atmosphere about 528cal per gram of water is released, as this happens high up a lot of this heat goes to space, so there is an earth cooling effect, Walter Jenner talks about this on YT. Clouds also have an albido effect.
A boom in green energy manufacturing would be like starting the Industrial Revolution all over again. Earths biosphere just can’t take that kind of abuse anymore. And this is coming from someone who owns an EV. A global Boom would accelerate everything.
@@ImproveYourMagic If the Earth cannot afford mining any longer let's shut the tar sands mines down immediately. While we are at it the entire fossil fuels industry ought to be shut down, too.
Yep, obviouscat is obvious, I have been preparing for this for about a decade. This winters project is to complete my heatwave shelter: a passively cooled earth shelter cottage near my workshop, the passive cooling is ground sourced and driven by a solar chimney. But the real preparation is not just physical survival, its coming up with a way to maintain access to technical resources without the existing supply chain - its called "The CubeSpawn Project" This project is something I have personally funded and has been a work in progress for about 20 years - the premise is: from a small scale manufacturing base all other things are possible. without it survivors will lose 100's of years of progress and knowledge and are unlikely to even retain the lesson this collapse could teach their descendants.
Which is why this plan includes a climate controlled "Growhouse" I have 3 pallets of LED grow lights and about 5 KW of solar panels - I cannot save the world, but i can cushion our family's trip through the decline, and just think! Carbon production is about to to take a sharp drop ;-), in 100-150 years things should be back to "normal" -ish
Great presentation , cutting down on c02 is this actually possible , we have created a machine where oil is in or related to almost everything from clothing to, plastics, electricity and heating for our manufacturing base. we do not move live nor breath without oil based products.
I wonder if the current withdrawal of affordable insurance from home owners in Florida, Louisiana and other places will mobilise public pressure on politicians in rich countries
He guys . I admire what you are doing but there is no hope that this will stop. We are in an extinction event which will run it's course. I studied Oekology in Europe in the 80 s and dropped out after two years with no hope for a change. I'm a realist and all the effort and all the money should go into private projects which makes sure that the human race survives this. Please do the math. All the carbon in form of oil. coal and gas needed hundreds of millions of years to grow as carbon forests, break down and compost and so on. That were times when the planet was a big sump, a hot house with no ice on the poles. That is where we go. We are burning the plants of 100 million years of growth in 200 years. Now the world economy is falling apart. All those countries with high population will burn more cheap oil and coal and gas. You guys are 50 years behind. I'm really sorry but open your eyes. Ps The next big event on the horizon is the explosion of the Methane hydrates in the low waters of the Siberean Shelf.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
That's bit to dramatic. I would be interested what you are doing on your personal level to survive the coming years. What are you doing for yourself. your friends .family? @@sedonars1 My guess is nothing.
Yes sadly I can't see a way out. I moved from Europe to Canada 15 years ago. Moving further north is an option . Let's see and wait. @@justmenotyou3151
Peter mentions the hypocrisy of our governments, but it needs a spotlight thrown on it and media is ignoring it. Canada for example is building not just that massive LNG complex, but it's spending 30 billion on a new pipeline so we can export much more. That LNG complex is a humongous monster, it just blew me away how huge it is, but I only became aware of its multi year construction two weeks ago. But we are paying significant carbon taxes that frequently continue to increase. It makes no sense, unless its a scam.
our numbers is a weakness. we are consuming our way out of existence. half as many people means each one gets twice as much. we don't have to be poor we just need to control our numbers. thank you🙏
The maximum human population the earth can sustain is probably about three billion people. We are now bouncing off of nine. Just like yeast in a wine bottle, we will be poisoned to death by our own shit.
SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN like we did during the pandemic … SUBSIDIZING AND PROTECTING FRONT LINE WORKERS … for at least 3 MONTHS. Most countries emitting fossil fuels the most CAN DO THAT!
After the three months… we start up again for three months THEN ANOTHER 3 MONTHS OFF for at least 2 years. In the meantime we can start redirecting and financing more renewable projects.
Politicians still think it is the holocene, and are deploying tired old strategies without any critical analysis whatsoever. New policy must consist of ontologically rational strategies such as removing limited liability for all the entire fossil fuel industry for a start - all such 'industry' being put directly under administrative control . No sign of such policies means that we are an ontologically defective species, (or multispecies).
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
Weather events are not climate. Between 1961 and 2021 cereal production increased 250% and cereal yield increased over 200%. Land used for cereal hardly increased (Data from World Bank, FAO/UN). This is the only time in human history that you are more likely to be overfed rather than underfed. We should be thankful we were borne into an age of such abundance. A US DoE study (Taylor & Schlenker, 2021) estimated that a 1 ppm increase in CO2 led to an increase of 0.4%, 0.6% and 1% in yield for corn, soybeans and wheat, respectively, and that CO2 increase was the main driver of the 500% yield growth in corn since 1940.
@annettemack4825 They've renamed high pressure systems "Heat Domes" to make them sound scary and then they do a graphic about you being trapped under them. It's laughable. If you're worried about the near future you're worried about the weather not the climate.
I was not clear on the explanation of methane effect. Even if we stopped all CO2 emission at this moment, the temperature will continue to rise for at least a decade. I am of the opinion that this will happen for much longer given the time it takes for nature to deal with CO2. Putting that aside for now, would it not be logical that methane emissions will continue to rise for at least that decade negating any reductions we may make in CO2 emmissions. Methane has a far stronger green house effect than CO2, thus any reductions in CO2 becomes a mute point. The only way now is removal, thus urgent development of the technology needed to generate the amount of energy this requires is of paramount importance.
Well if you are accelerating towards a cliff at some point the law of gravity will take over but at some point you certainly will stop accelerating. You will be dead.
@@sentientflower7891 Well, that kind of sums it up, albeit in stronger terms than mine. That said, I am not convinced that humanity lost, but we must act posthaste and that must be in a coordinated and focussed way. From a more philosophical view point. In a hundred years, 99% of the people alive today will in any event be dead. Perhaps there is an opportunity here to limit population growth over this period and thus limit the pressure on our environment and resources.
@@larsmathiesen humankind hasn't done anything yet, isn't doing anything now so it is safe to conclude that Humankind will do absolutely nothing except accelerate straight into a brick wall and go extinct in a horrific and prolonged manner.
@@larsmathiesen That's right, 30 yeas ago perhaps. Those in control chose to ignore science and pursue the human fabrication of fake money. We have entered the event horizon already, and the momentum is increasing. We cant instantly stop and reverse in the same moment while we have been moving at 100mph. Basic high school physics man, like flower dude said. We will need decades to slow down, and more to reverse, but instead we are now speeding up. Denial is easier, I get, it sucks.
I was having a conversation with my son who believes nuclear power is a huge part of what will help us move away from fossil fuel. He wants an geo-engineering solution. I think it is an all hands on deck situation and everything from small scale nuclear, to shifting populations into more sustainable areas, to carbon sequestration, to diversified agriculture will need to be adopted. We (westernized cultures) will need to change our consumption patterns as well as our expectations. Thoughts?
Weather events are not climate. As regards flooding, the U.N. IPCC admits having “low confidence” in even the “sign” of any changes-in other words, it is just as likely that climate change is making floods less frequent and less severe. In a study on the climate impact on flooding for the USA and Europe, published in the Journal of Hydrology, Volume 552, September 2017, Pages 704-717, the study found: ‘The number of significant trends was about the number expected due to chance alone.’ ‘Changes in the frequency of major floods are dominated by multidecadal variability.’ ‘The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded (Hartmann et al., 2013) that globally there is no clear and widespread evidence of changes in flood magnitude or frequency in observed flood records.’ ‘The results of this study, for North America and Europe, provide a firmer foundation and support the conclusion of the IPCC that compelling evidence for increased flooding at a global scale is lacking.’
We refused to listen to all warnings for at least five decades. What else did you expect to happen ??? I expect climate events to reverse overpopulation in most brutal ways this century.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
I'm no expert, but it concerns me that the IPCC is spoken about without emphasising it is a consensus organisation and such organisations are inevitably conservative. The IPCCs position is very important but I suggest they set minimum standards, not ideally safe ones.
Dr Ye Tao says anthropogenic aerosols are hiding ~+1C of warming. So if we stop burning fossil fuels, (and do nothing to compensate for the loss of aerosol masking), then based on the accelerated warming indicated by Hansen we’re looking at ~+3C in 20 years and a one-way ticket to Hothouse Earth.
My understanding is it’s hiding 1.5 - 2 Celsius. Regardless, an immediate halt would give the biosphere would react horrifically to the sudden shock. We we have to do it gradually. But that requires us to continue burning Co2 which won’t help either. There just isn’t enough time to do anything. Abrupt and runaway is just what’s going to happen. Anything we do will just accelerate the warming at this point. It’s hard to grasp how F’d we and non humans are.
Earth remembers what you did for your VCR’s, electric stoves, TV’s and your unopened collectible trophies from Star Wars to Barbie dolls. Earth feels the attacks for your PlayStations, cellphones, EV’s, solar panels, flat screens, diesel engines, and your temperature controlled homes. Earths biosphere does not care about your political and religious beliefs, or your blame games. She is appalled at the diners of meat, dairy, eggs, and marine life. When the clock strikes 2.5 Celsius, Earth will drown your PlayStation with her tears. And after FedEx fails to deliver your package due to washed out coastal transport highways, Earth will not care that you are unable to give a one star review to Amazon due to internet being down. And Earth will not hear your cries over her thunder as you shout, “but we wanted to create economic growth and prosperity!” When the clock strikes 2.5 Celsius. Hear the words 2.5 Celsius on every Bday, anniversary, baby shower, and the all mighty Black Friday and Xmass season as the fourth fiscal quarter closes. We’ve committed to 5+ Celsius. It’s a done deal. The sixth extinction has been signed and sealed. And it will be the extinction to end all extinctions.
The planetary /earth system is entering a phase of transition that may represent a state change. We are now in situation of "permanent crisis" for the next few decades. The interaction of several key processes across the planet are producing an acceleration and amplification of the global heating and biodiversity crises. The vested of the fossil fuel industry and their investors now pose the central existential threat to the future safety of human beings. Fossil fuel Emissions must fall... Immediately and permanently.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline. 2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024). Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere. Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place". THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet. But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
@@sedonars1 I can see the first half of your comment stopping at 2026 as plausible. Which leads to the 2nd half of your comment starting at 2027 as possible. Thank you for the horrific imagery now stuck in my mind.
Methane (CH4) is only 0.00019% (1.9 parts per million) of the atmosphere. Both of its narrow absorption bands occur at wavelengths where H2O is already absorbing substantially. Hence, any radiation that CH4 might absorb has already been absorbed by H2O. With the concentration of water vapour in the atmosphere being between 1,000 and 20,000 times greater than CH4, the effects of CH4 are completely masked by H2O.
The feed back loops are my greatest fear. We will have no control over these feed back loops. We are doomed. Only God can save us. We are too blind to see the truth. God bless all three of you. Amen
The Why is more important than the What. Nothing can be done as the trigger has been pulled and all we have is the delay of the flash. Reflect on where you wish to go. Hospice is the only real parable I can think of.
It's NEVER too expensive and never too much money to spend on the climate problems . And more expensive to lose humanity. There's nothing else to lose. If all the money in the world isn't spent fully on climate problems if it requires all the money, then nothing else matters, because no survivors left
There’s only two tasks we can focus on. 1- prepare people mentally now so we can manage the upcoming chaos the best we can. 2- Try to relocate trees, animals, and insects to regions we think will be their best chances in a 10 Celsius world. (even if unlikely for success.) We can ignore saving marine life because their habitat has zero chances at this point. From the 100 nuclear plants within expected sea level rise, low population from over fishing, acidification, and detoxification, marine life doesn’t stand a chance. Worse than the Permian-Triassic extinction for the oceans.
Focus on reducing the co2 is pointless, that is not the solution. The solution is in technology, like for example, sai, ccs, water cleaning farms for sea water, artificiell environment etc. Im like 99,9999% sure we will fix this with technology, reducing co2 is to late, way to late. The co2 is not going anyway (without ccs) and it has a delay effect on 10-40 yrs. So reducing co2 significantly now, would just cause unnecessary harm, and also be counterproductive.
Professor Albert Bartlett: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." Almost every chart shows the pattern of exponential growth! A look at his teachings is highly recommended...
Weather events are not climate change. Deserts have shrunk considerably since the 1980's. The Sahara shrank by 12,000km² per year 1984-2015(Liu & Xue, 2020). The Earth has greened by 15% or more in a human lifetime. "The greening of the planet over the last two decades represents an increase in leaf area on plants and trees equivalent to the area covered by all the Amazon rainforests. There are now more than two million square miles of extra green leaf area per year"(NASA, 2019). Observations of Earth’s vegetative cover since the year 2000 by NASA’s Terra satellite show a 10% increase in vegetation in the first 20 years of the century. Global tree canopy cover increased by 2.24 million square kilometers (865,000 square miles) between 1982 and 2016 (Nature, 2018). As well as human intervention, the reasons for this include forests expanding polewards aided by additional CO2 and a slight rise in temperature.
Weather events are not climate. If you took away El Niño, a record increase in Total Solar Irradiance, and the Tonga eruption (all natural events) there would be nothing to see. The Tonga eruption injected 142 megatonnes of water vapour into the stratosphere, increasing its water content by 15%. Water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. Total solar irradiance: satellite data from 1979 onwards shows June 2023 at an all time high in over 40 years of measurements (ncei.noaa). There were lows below 1361 W/m² in 2019 to current highs over 1362 W/m² in June (using a lowess curve, which also shows the fastest rate of increase during this recent period). So we are looking at a change of around 1½ Watts over the course of 5 years (the maximum difference is 2.1W/m²). That may not sound much but it exceeds the increase in the Earth's Energy Imbalance (0.9 W/m², 2018 - 1.97 W/m², 2023) (NASA CERES EBAF TOA). Overall the current increase in solar irradiance should give a direct global heating effect of +0.1°C, with an indirect effect of +0.2°C (after Schmutz, 2021). This increase in solar irradiance is related to an earlier than expected increase in sunspot activity, which has not yet reached its zenith, and that may not happen for several years (Royal Observatory Belgium), so further heating from this cause can be expected. So increase in TSI 2019- 2023 = 2.1W/m2. Increase in EEI for the same period ≈ 1W/m². Maybe I'm being dense, but doesn't that mean that without the increase in TSI, the EEI would be in negative territory? Sea surface temperatures (SST) were trending downwards 2000-2018 (HadSST 4), and from 1950-1980, and from 1880-1910. The oceans warmed at a faster rate 1910-1940 than 1980-2010. Remember CO2 has been accumulating in the atmosphere at an accelerating rate all the time, so there is little correlation between the two. The ocean has warmed rapidly and repeatedly during the current interglacial with no correlation to CO2 e.g. 10,300-10,200 years before the present (y BP), 9,500y BP, 6,000-5,900y BP, 5,400-5,300y BP, 2,500-2,300y BP, 1,700-1,600y BP (Berner et al., 2008). There is a high frequency (18 events) of SST variability on the order of 1-3°C during a 10-50 year time resolution throughout the Holocene in the North Atlantic with no correlation to CO2.
As I have been telling everybody around me for over 30 years now, the Industrial Age is ending, whether we like it or not, because nobody has ever done what it would have taken to make it sustainable, because that would have completely ended any kind of economic growth ages ago, and the rich wouldn't have liked that at all. The only way to slow down the decline of our civilisation so that people might still adapt to things constantly getting worse and begin to build a new type of civilisation that can take over while the old one crumbles is so radical that it probably won't happen in time - global revolution against Capitalism.
... And clearly u have been wrong and for some reason are bragging about it.
the only solution there's ever been to climate change is for industrial civilization to collapse causing billions of deaths thank God that's around the corner
Homo Colossus is finished. The days of the 1% owning 99% of Earth's resources are over. It's all crashing down now. Humans can't possibly survive this.
Fossil fuels = prosperity. It really is a no brainer.... 😂
Reverend Billy had a plan. He tried to warn everyone.
Say it with me: _"Faster Than Expected!"_
I am absolutley fed up hearing this all the time, all the climate models seem to be corrupted, far too conservative estimates, not counting in numerous sources of influences
now it is very easy to see what will happen@@jzsbff4801
@@thunderstorm6630 scientists didn't know that the 2020's would be so bad and even if they had predicted it those warnings would have been dismissed.
Acceleration unstoppable
@@timothydempsey3763 the acceleration is unstoppable but civilization is very much stoppable.
Please keep telling the truth about our planetary hospice. We should never be afraid of telling the truth about anything, especially this.
Yeah. What could be more important, for every living thing?
Yes but what is this truth you speak of? I'm used to my gov't lying about everything lately and I don't know who to trust anymore????
@@chrissnyder3430 Thumbs up. I agree with your spirit of skepticism. It's always the best place to start.
But consider the most obvious fact of all, which is that we treat our thin atmosphere like an open sewer.
Co2 levels rise continuously. It stimulates plant growth, but too much of this good thing has backfired. The rate of change of these growing levels of Co2 is what is causing warming to be problematic, for ecosystems, and extreme weather events. Even the jet stream has changed, and the change is a scary one.
Understanding these facts are enough for me to not dwell too much on this predicament. Live one day at a time, and make the best of it, while you still can. Yet be as conscientious as you can, while realizing you can't change the world.
The truth about this doesn't come from the government. It comes from the scientific community, and even that can often underestimate the severity of the climate crisis. @@chrissnyder3430
as long as it is the truth
I find myself getting into conversations less and less lately! Inevitably speaking about the future will come up…… that stops me dead…. Excuse me!!! Has everyone forgotten the horror that awaits us concerning our global extinction????
Same
Ditto
If you don’t talk about it, it doesn’t exist. Whenever I start a serious conversation about it, someone will always say “ That is too depressing, let’s talk about something else !” Then they are back to funny baby videos on Tik Tok. It seems the prevailing attitude is don’t think, don’t rock the boat, just keep your eyes on the lemming’s ass right in front of you and keep running. I don’t think we are going to fix this. It is coming and will come much faster than anybody thought it could. My guess is we don’t even have five years left before it becomes completely unglued.
@@jayleeper1512 That’s what vegans feel like when they try to explain or show what is happening behind the walls of slaughter houses and animal farms. They are immediately told, “That’s too depressing. I don’t want to hear or see the reality of it. I’d rather not know. Besides it can’t be that bad. If it was, someone would do something about it. Let’s watch a cat video instead.”
Same experience.
@@ImproveYourMagic I agree, the modern corporate production of food is disgusting and horrible. The production of food crops is not exempt as it requires the massive destruction of habitats to create crop land, the massive use of chemicals and pesticides to keep the mono culture alive and the slaughter of birds and wildlife that come to feed on the crops that have replaced their natural food sources. My family used to run a small beef herd but we made sure the animals lived a happy secure life and were killed quickly and humanely. I no longer grow beef and have returned most of my land back to timberland and wildlife habitat. Mine is an island of forest in the midst of corporate farmland. Every year, I harvest a deer or elk from my land for food and payback by providing them food and a place to live. I also grow a huge garden organically and buy as little processed food as l possibly can. I think for the world to survive, people need to quit spending their lives working and consuming, become closer to nature and learn to produce their own food. Being slaves to a corporate work ethic and spending their lives mindlessly accumulating worthless crap that is destined to end up in a landfill is destroying the planet and will lead to the ultimate collapse. That you have become vegan indicates that you care about the earth and the environment and this is a path you should continue on. I have found that veganism is not for me but I attempt to make my dietary choices as aligned with the natural environment as I can. If people expect the world to survive and continue, everyone will have to do this.
“We could have saved it but we were too darn cheap.”
Kurt Vonnegut
Actually we are too darn wasteful and ignorant to make the necessary changes, we are already Doomed to near term human extinction
In my opinion - and I’ve been saying this since December 2008, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING - - ANYTHING, at least that is going to make ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE END TO THE OUTCOME.
We have made absolutely, positively no progress whatsoever to reducing greenhouse gas emissions SINCE the 1992 Climate Summit in Rio de Janeiro. Not only have emissions continue to go up/and more importantly - GREENHOUSE GAS CONCENTRATIONS WHICH ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT - have continued to go up, year-over-year, AND,
• The more they go up, THE FASTER THEY GO UP, AND…
• The faster they go up, THE MORE THEY GO UP - FASTER, and the faster they go up, the more they go up.
• If this were ‘Mechanics’ in a the sense of ‘Physics’, what we are talking about here is not Velocity or Acceleration, but the NEXT DERIVATIVE - EVEN THE RATE OF CHANGE OF ACCELERATION IS GOING UP… FASTER.
We are going to be able to get ourselves out of this mess:
• We cannot and we will not bring ourselves to reign in consumption of fossil fuels because - forget about money/profits to be made, if we tried to do so, the global economy would collapse. The banking system would go into cardiac arrest - and it almost certainly still will within a two years at most, and
• The global financial system goes into cardiac arrest, Global Supply Chains virtually instantly ‘grind to a halt’.
• AND, if that were to happen at that scale as a consequence - we would not be able to Reboot the Supply Chain System fast enough to save ourselves.
Quite literally, if the global financial system cannot keep operating… CANNOT KEEP OPERATING - NOT MISS A BEAT - WE DIE. It cannot afford to be down for even a couple of hours because if that happened, we would die. Massive pileup/rear end collisions in the supply chain - we just got a very small taste of that when Covid 19 came to town. Imagine something a couple of orders of magnitude worse. With Covid at least, the global financial system soldiered on.
But Totaled all up - overly - Total Global Debt is reportedly somewhere around 380% of Global ‘GDP’. (Call it ‘GWP’). LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY OFF THROUGH ECONOMIC GROWTH.
And were not going to be able to get economic growth because of Consumable Energy Shortages and/or aggravated by Rising Energy Prices.
Central banks in Western nations are raising lending rates - as I’m sure you’ve noticed. And that is making things worse. People have no money to spend - it is estimated that 57% of US citizens could not even come up with $1000 to handle some unexpected expense to something as fundamental and important as auto repairs that were not anticipated.
The US is BANKRUPT. It is ‘scrambling like mad’ - since it’s plan and hoped-for dream of somehow or other seeing a government installed in Russia which would be ‘friendly’ towards the United States and to a lesser degree, Great Britain, MEANING that it would take orders from Washington and London AND run the country for the benefit of the Ruling Class/American Oligarchs and big corporations.
What’s really keeping the US going here is THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED TO - AT LEAST NEEDED TO IN THE PAST WHICH IS NOW BECOMING INCREASINGLY UNLIKELY - effectively acquire - the keyword being EFFECTIVELY - ownership/control of the vast wealth that exists within the nation of Russia in order to be able to ‘add it to the balance sheet’ of USA Inc., TO PROP UP THE US DOLLAR in order to be able to continue to live off cheap imports from foreign nations.
But it’s not working out that way. SO, NOW WHAT’S GOING ON IS THE US IS DESPERATELY SCRAMBLING TO INTRODUCE A DIGITAL CURRENCY - A CBDC - because the fully intend and are currently in the process of - if you understand these things - DEFAULTING on international debt obligations.
Countries around the world are figuring this out and are bailing out in many cases of the US dollar as fast as they can. It’s a race against time. ASSUMING THE US CAN SUCCESSFULLY DO THIS and somehow rather still managed to ‘hold it altogether domestically’. At some point. Likely in the not-too-distant future, foreign investors are going to slowdown and stop and not wanting to purchase US treasuries and the holes system will come apart if the US can pick handled its way through it.
Every indication to me looks like we are on the verge of the/a Great Depression 2.0 - one which probably be a lot worse than the Great Depression back in the nineteen thirties. What did it take to get out of that? World War II.
Care to guess what’s coming?
You’re sounding like Michael C Ruppert.
You left out the impact of all the shopping. Bdays, anniversaries, valentines days, and the all mighty Black Fridays and Xmass season to close out 4th fiscal quarters.
On a lighter note, the depression was ending before the US entered WWII. Correlation is not cause. No one has ever explained how killing off hundreds of thousands of young strong smart men and turning all manufacturing of consumer goods to war effort improves the economy.
prayer and fasting
Well that may be the longest comment I've ever seen on TH-cam or any other website. And unfortunately you are absolutely correct, we are totally screwed and there's no fixing it now😢
The level of financial commitment to continued fossil fuel extraction is mind-blowing considering we are supposed to be in a climate "emergency". It is hard to see how there is any solution within the framework of capitalism where all these big decisions are made behind closed doors and a veil of "commercial secrecy" with parliamentarians either directly profiting or are paid off. We need a new form of social governance which extends to cover the processes of production, distribution and exchange and a democratic framework which is based on mass participation by working people. A tough ask I know but otherwise we are all fried.
we are fried, the rich are committing mass murder, and we are the victims
It's pure stupidity and narcissistic selfishness that politicians are still committed to expanding fossil fuel use as we quickly go extinct. Don't worry, the politicians, their corrupt systems, and everyone they know is going to boil like lobsters until they take their last breath.
What about the "have nots" of the world? They are on the road to cancelling out whatever sacrifices Capitalist countries can gallently come up with. It's their turn, and they are getting slammed by the sins of the devoloped countries.
I think that we can’t solve the problem with the economy that caused it. Proposal that fixes that very problem. Look up Carbon Quantitative Easing. Can’t figure out why everyone isn’t demanding it.
The business model for EV Battery World© is the same model as Covid Lockdown Compulsory Jab,© by inverting the Freedom Constitution into Compulsory Catholicism 2. It's the same business model as a turkey farmer...and you're the turkey.
Albertus Gore - $100Millionaire GreenMail Godfather - Political Science major - "I never took a math or science course in college.'
William McKibben - $10Millionaire End of Days Shock Journo - Journalism major - 'I used to be a stringer for the New Yorker.'
James Hansen - $1.3Million 'Green Award Hatch Act felon - Astronomy major - 'My theory of the atmosphere of Venus was completely debunked by space probes.'
Michael Mann - $1Million LOSER, deep-fake debunked 'Hockey Schtick - Mathematics major - 'The dog ate my hard drive!'
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I recall a helicopter pilot at Hawaii saying "No one expected something like that".. well.
What happened in Hawaii is coming to every town, city, and state in the world. Our politicians are just plain stupid and don't care about Life on Earth. All they care about is their fleeting temporal power and money. It's pathetic and sad being a member of this fallen and soon to be extinct race of selfish animals.
no one in the brainless denial community maybe
that pilot and alot of other locals were betrayed by the political leaders who the record shows ignored multiple studies warning about the high risks of fire on Maui. That betrayal is a microcosm of whats happening globally,all over the World so called leaders are failing to cut GHG emissions.
DEW
@@sam-fc9ky Oh don't be a spanner all your life eh. A "directed energy weapon" is right wing conspiracy bullshit that has no credible basis in science. Do you have any fucking idea of the amount of energy you would need to be able to generate in space to be able to fire an energy beam over a distance of at least 70 bloody kilometers through atmospheric layering to be able to have a reasonable effect on the ground? a shitload more than our best methods of energy generation in space can manage. And that doesn't even begin to deal with the gaping problem of how you would maintain a focussed beam over that distance.
Star wars has no basis in reality, drop the bullshit.
If the survival of the human species is predicated upon Humankind's ability to attain peace the cause is hopeless, which is quite obviously the situation on the Earth.
war is just one symptom of overshoot
@@thunderstorm6630 humans were violent since the species was born. Human violence is genetic and inherent.
The best way to determine if global warming is a problem is global ice melting and rising sea levels. I have been watching the same stretch of coast for more than 50 years and nothing has happened.
@@NeutronStar-r7r shut up liar.
@@NeutronStar-r7r sea level rise is SLOW, imperceptible to the Human eye. It's a Red Herring, always has been. Besides, it's about growing food. Photosynthesis doesn't happen at 100 degrees F, and that's just Chemistry .....
Thank you Peter, Paul, and Dale. We need your voices and truth! Keep the alarm bells ringing and enjoy each day we have left to the fullest. I don’t see a way out or political will to change things.
Time to get Guy McPherson back on.
Paul Beckwith is a better educator and G.M. has attacked Paul.
Or me.
I agree, sometimes the truth isn't pretty.
I agree. Time for a reality check.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
"We have to do with less!"
More need to grasp that less doesnt imply worse.
Education is key. Thank you for the lesson! 😚
The vast majority of humans are too ignorant to understand I make the changes necessary, besides Extinction is already locked in
You know who says that if we reach "net zero" by 2050 that the heating will immediately reverse? Michael Mann! I know we are all supposed to be on the same side, but when someone like this goes on all the TV shows and lies to everyone just to sell their book, someone needs to call that out. This is why everyone is confused!
Michael Mann is doing whatever he can get to motivate people to do something, anything. If that means providing people with a false hope that's fine so long as someone does something. That it is already too late is a difficult thing to say.
@@sentientflower7891decades of sugarcoating and deception hasn't worked. Maybe he (and others) should try the unvarnished truth for a change.
@@PimpinNinja2U everyone acknowledged that World War I was so terrible that war wouldn't happen anymore, guess how effectively the experience of millions of Europeans dying in trench warfare was at ending war?
i really DO NOT understand the lack of LOVE for MrMann
@@-LightningRod- whatever. Michael Mann is fine and he is used to criticism as that comes to everyone who says anything.
This is a very sobering and well made video. Thank you.
Any projection beyond 20 years on this planet is too long for most of humanity.
Interesting, because in the 70's we were heading into a new ice age according to the science experts. IN the 80's, I remember being told all the vegetation would be dead by the year 2000 because of acid rain. Then there was the giant hole in the ozone layer. Whatever you do? Don't watch "An Inconvenient Truth" again. The amount of predictions made in that movie that should have happened already but didn't IS quite inconvenient for climate crisis believers.
@@adammillwardart7831 consider that Lahaina is gone, 1000 Canadian wildfires currently burn, California has been hit with a cat 1 hurricane, Florida oceans measured 101 degrees Fahrenheit, Phoenix nearly doubled its record of consecutive days exceeding 110, etc, etc, etc. It saddens me how stupid you are.
@@adammillwardart7831 climate denier it will happen idiot useing 2000 date
I have survived 100 plus degree days without air-conditioning because i live in a well insulated house. (Straw Bale) I just have to open the windows at night, but it is getting harder with these hot nights. Insulation works both ways, if I can't cool off at night the heat stays in the house. Not sleeping well is already a serious health issue for me. I'm not looking forward to the next 30 years. We are going to suffer for our sins.
Sins or stupidity?
You will have to dig-in, literally. Make a safe room, down in the soil, about 5 feet down, where it's under 60 degrees. Alternatively, bury a large diameter pipe, 5 feet down, and force air through it, to get cool air.
Opening a window won't help against smoke.
Don't worry humans don't even have 20 years left, we will all be extinct much sooner than that
My mentor in Permaculture, Bill Mollison, 35 years ago said to our class and he is spot on "that the greatest confrontational issue we will face in the future of our species is the shifting of paradigms" Amazingly I still get here and there comments from loud voiced and mockingly smiling critics of my discussions that I am talking nonsense which unfortunately has an effect upon all the fence sitters in the room. People do not like what they don't understand. I am tired of trying to persuade others with valid information as they pick holes, jump puddles, scramble up banks, hide in thickets, huddle in their darkness.....anything but see the obvious. We are destined to suffer the four horsemen and I am afraid. Very afraid.
Why are we giving subsidies to companies making record profits?
Thanks Peter, Paul and Dale as always.
No one ever talks about biodiversity loss. Nature can't take carbon out of the system when it is in serious decline. IT IS FINISHED.
Totally correct.
Or the massive amounts of plastic belching out methane
Your life is a finite resource but mandatory starvation won't add another minute, will it? So why would you condemn the world to a New Dark Ages? Nature and Cornell Ornithology just finished their annual Northern Tier songbird count, and stated the toxic bT GMO corn/soy 'renewable biofuels'(sic) plantations _are SIXTH EXTINCTION for all wildlife._ No chirp, no croak, no howl, dead, lifeless nuked biofuels plantations. The same goes for solar fields, if you've never seen them. The ground is soaked in toxic herbicides and covered in tiny dead skeletons.
Doomed by greed and stupidity.
fact.
Humans!
Evil
Yep exactly, we are totally screwed and there's no fixing things now
Brought on by Capitalism. The most destructive economic system in all of human history.
The United States Congress is not comprehending this international emergency, Fossil fuel use must be cut by 90 percent immediately. Our children must survive. Our planet must rely on solar energy and wind mostly entirely from now on.
Blindsided again. Nobody was expecting Hawaii to burn. The models are not going to see this kind of problem.
This conversation is the real information. I'm not even sure how many people can accept what's being said here, but it is the unvarnished truth. Seems so hard for humanity to look the monster in the eye and do something substantial about it, but that's what's needed.
The doom mongers leave no sense of hope
If people took the “doom mongers”, aka realists, seriously then I for one would feel a greater sense of hope. People should derive hope from the “doom mongers”, not from the eternal optimists.
Things can get worse, like next year and the people responsible are not idiots. They are criminally insane. They believe that political turmoil will trigger nuclear planetary suicide before abrupt climate change will kill us. They are the ones with their finger on the nuclear button. They are probably right.
Something substantial was done. The effects are time delayed.
Hard pill to swallow. I've accepted it but can see why so many refuse to believe it. Especially if one has kids. I've chosen not to have kids. I think I've always known if this makes sense to anyone
I live in the middle of hundreds of miles of cornfields. After seeing what happened in Maui, it makes me wonder if the croplands of the Midwest could one day be in danger of wildfires.
this will happen soon, and nothing can avoid that.
@@thunderstorm6630 look at the US Drought Monitor for the Midwest.
Everything burns 🔥
Popcorn
NASA say its irreversible, saying that corn will eventually be worth a lot more in the near future , you can see the food chain starting to break down , we are right at the beginning of this, it will get far worse, its a difficult call for you
The area burned in Canada is now bigger than the entire state of Maine. 39,000 square miles and growing. The Boreal forest carbon sink is now emitting vast C02. WASF
Yep we are totally screwed and there's NOTHING that can be done to stop it now
Farmers in Kansas and Nebraska are getting destroyed right now. I suspect when the water in the Ogalala Aquifer goes dry it will be largely game over for a few 100 million people. The US feeds over 900 million people with our food exports now. How many will die in the 2024, 2025, 2026 from famine?
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index.
Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27.
Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=War and neglect cause Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 which begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Beyond 2030, Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
@@sedonars1well that is very well said and probably the most accurate comment on this whole video. We are totally screwed and people have no idea how quickly it's going to happen 😢
We need more than political action. We need real action.
I can’t think of anything.
Same like I actually just don't have hope. I mean we'd need like everyone in every country to simultaneously hold a joint strike demanding radical change. That's the only thing I can think would avert this. And basically people are to individualistic now so it's not gonna happen.
@@williampatton7476
You’re right about striking. And you’re right that not enough people would do it.
You wanna see a magic trick? Go to your calendar and circle February 2024, and write down Record global temperature of 1.7 Celsius. Then in March you can wonder how I was so prophetic six months prior!
It’ll last a few days and be in the news so you won’t miss it.
Everyone needs to lose hope. Accept our failure at preventing Abrupt Runaway Climate Change. (How can we stop something that is abrupt and runaway?)
Losing hope will lead people into action. And there will be a different kind of hope to refocus our energy.
We’ll still be totally F’d. No way around that. But we can better manage the chaos and prevent mass hysteria if we take action and plan.
Then we can move the conversation towards asking the important questions that actually matter.
Q: How F’d are we?
A: We are totally F’d.
Q: How F’d are the plants, animals, and insects?
A: Because we’ve been slaughtering them. there food supply and habitats for a few centuries. Species are gonna be super F’d.
Q: What resources should we use to try and save Marine life?
A: None. Marine life have zero chances. (Except maybe Jelly fish)
Q: 100 nuclear power plants are within expected Sea Level rise. What should we do?
A: Since it takes 50-60 years to decommission a nuclear plant, we’d better start now.
Q; How much time do we have to prepare for 2.5 Celsius.
A: 2.5 in the year 2050. Only 27 years away)
We’re wasting time talking about climate deniers, carbon sequestration, higher sea walls, recycling, etc. We are way past all that.
Make sure you circle your calendar!
Thank you for showing an interest in Climate Change and the rapid rise to 2.5 Celsius as we enter into the largest extinction event in Earth’s history!
Baked in. Too many tipping points will be triggered to stop this train. I don't expect that we'll even try although the hype will grow.
Thank you again! Please continue repeating this message!
What's missing from this excellent presentation, is how we live in an inverted totalitarian culture and economy. _Corporations are telling governments, the world over what's trump_ . To both men and lady host, KUDOS!
We’re toast
Fact
Please pass the butter, not the gun. TY
Spreading jam on my butt 😐
The climate is not broken. We are breaking. The Earth and the life she gives will go on in Her own good time. Our time, however, may indeed be short 😢
Yep when last human dies earth will give a gasp,say thank Christ and get on with it.
praise God- what a blunder humans
Well ladies and gentelmen, we did it. There is a chance nowhere else in the universe is there a species like us that has been able to see itself throught understanding the 13.78 billion year history of the universe. That is us and we appear to have made an unrepairable hole in the spaceship
Well said and spot on!
Incomprehensable how humanity is incapable of change... fundamentally !
we'll see if that's true...
Im not a scientist, just a single mum living in a council house (uk) trying to understand all this for the past 10 years or so. We have No car, try hard to use as little gas & eldctricity as possible, tryinv to keep food on the table and prepare my son for a future that im not convinced he will even get. Ive been sharing videos, voting as green as i can and hoping someone will listen. I dont have the time or capicity to ptotest, and everythibg om seeing says its too late anyway.
I stumbled on guy mcpherson some years ago and hoped he was wrong about extinction , but although his timeline was a bit off, he dosent look extereme in his warnings anymore. At one time i though there was something i could 'do' but it's futile trying to be heard. Is it too late to try and get something done? What should i be shouting for ? Of is it time to just make memories?????
Find people who think as you do and take inspiration from the community of folks who care about the earth and each other. Deep Adaptation Forum, Global Earth Repair Foundation, etc.
Your diligence, consistency, exceedingly hard work most appreciated. But it looks like Guy McPherson had it right long ago--and many others before him. The Global Titanic is vertical, as humans scramble for yet more "gold bars." Sam Mitchell at Collapse Chronicles has had his head screwed on remarkably straight for a very long time. I am at least pleased that Nature is so solidly democratic, as she shakes off the disease of Homo suicidians. Love does appear to be all that remains--a tall order, but I do strongly encourage it.
So depressing how few views, if it was denying global warming millions would be watching.
"All the busy little creatures chasing down their destinies, living in the pools they soon forget about the Sea." Neil Peart.
Oooh, Diane! What a beautiful post/thought, miss Neil so bad…
You’re right boembo!
@@Poppsensei Yup, Neil was a genius and way ahead of this time.
Or a dumb BALL GAME with overpaid jocks playing a kids game . Humans !
We have to envision the path beyond technology.
true Ben ,and it would be a far better life
Some did. It required everyone on the Globe to be on the same page. But that’s all behind us now.
Thank you both fr the truth telling. I wish sometimes there was more of an outing of what the underlying issue is. ie overshoot not just co2. It means a complete change in our culture, society and politics. simply replacing oil with solar is a fake solution.
Yes, but simply replacing oil with solar, wind, tidal etc combined with energy storage solutions … and nuclear power … WOULD be a solution. Solar energy would be an important component.
Gotta start somewhere.
Overshoot is indeed the biggest problem. Too many of us bipeds running around consuming, wasting, and polluting. Unless we address this most important issue of reducing our numbers we are definitely doomed. And then nature will do the decreasing for the planet and it will be with a lot of suffering and devastation.
Thanks Pieter, Paul and Dale for working so hard to get out the truth. I live in Fairbanks Alaska, where we have had a lot of smoke but no fires in our neighborhood this last couple weeks. I know it’s coming. I’m going to try to prepare my property so that it’s defensible.
This information has really helped me a lot! Can’t thank you enough!
Well yes, the history of humanity says we will go there.
When people say we've come together when it really counts like WWII or the pandemic, you have to ask "did we really come together for the protection of all or some?"
Science and technology are advancing rapidly but human nature doesn't really seem to be changing at all.
Primal emotions, medieval institutions and god like technology. What could possibly go wrong?
Nobody can imagine humanity being disappeared completely off one planet earth where history lessons about human primates are only for ALIEN 👽 👽 pioneers to discover someday way off into the future. Where no creature larger than a pencil eraser remains on earth.
Primates evolved, for the first time, at 10° C warmer, 55 million years ago. Not Homo, but early Primates----near the Poles.
Nature and Cornell Ornithology just finished their annual Northern Tier songbird count, and stated the toxic bT GMO corn/soy 'renewable biofuels'(sic) plantations _are SIXTH EXTINCTION for all wildlife._ No chirp, no croak, no howl, dead, lifeless nuked biofuels plantations. The same goes for solar fields, if you've never seen them. The ground is soaked in toxic herbicides and covered in tiny dead skeletons.
I doubt we will be here in 100 years. I feel this is it. If we cared we would have started years ago. Glad I did not have children nor did any of brothers and sisters.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
"This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body."
-Walt Whitman
I am not sure why people keep saying this will be a problem for future generations. It is a problem now. How long will be able to grow food on large scale monocrop fields with fossil fuel driven machines and transport? How much longer will the climate and water supplies allow for this kind of food production before it fails? Do people really think we have decades left? Grow local food now to mitigate the hardships to come! Go vegan! Start a local food community. Grow potatoes instead of roses in your public areas in towns, etc. We can do some things to help ourselves at least mitigate some suffering.
Deep adaptation and living in small groups in land based local communities is the only way that a few humans might survive. You are on the right track. There is no hope of switching to "green" energy generation with High Tech. The Western corporate industrial system is collapsing and the sooner the better. Blessing to you - may we create some sanctuaries where ever we can.
At the risk of sounding like a downer. Mono cropping, local food forest, and permaculture will not grow in the weather of 2.5 Celsius.
And even if it could, there are more guns in America than people. Those who grow can expect unwelcomed knocks upon their doors.
@@ImproveYourMagic I have to agree with you there. My feelings are simple. None of us get out of here alive - I am still going to make the most of this life experience and leave the theater singing. (Even if it's the Blues)
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
Stay positive everyone! ☮️❤️🌈🦄
" Always look on the bright side of life."( Insert whistling .)
I keep myself cheerful knowing the idiot deniers are doomed as well.
I want whatever you're smokin'.
False optimism is not going to save us, in fact it is part of the problem.
@@vaunniethayer1484 just because it’s the apocalypse doesn’t mean you have to be such a negative Nancy.
Exponential climate change is like a car that went over the cliff. We are in that car discussing "what governments should do".
That's the problem.
Government can care less about your kids or you. It's all about them.
Always has been.
That's why Government will spend millions to billions in political propaganda to stay in power- and not put any personal finances or efforts into the real world situations we are all seeing
Thank you so much
Great video - congrats Dale, Peter, Paul and Mike!
There is much said about methane feedbacks but I never seem to see much said about the fact that water vapor is an effective greenhouse gas. As we warm greater amounts of water vapor accumulate in the atmosphere hence the extreme rain events we are now seeing. The excessive water vapor is surely helping to amplify the rate of warming and should be seen as a dangerous feedback.
When Florida’s ocean reached 101 degrees, I found out that water begins to steam a 100 degrees. So yeah, totally F’d in every direction.
One thing to consider is that when water vapor condenses in the mid upper atmosphere about 528cal per gram of water is released, as this happens high up a lot of this heat goes to space, so there is an earth cooling effect, Walter Jenner talks about this on YT. Clouds also have an albido effect.
@@thurstonhowellthetwelf3220 interesting
I think Peter should take a look at Anfrew Nikiforuk;s Tyee article about the effects of massive (land and ocean) mining for renewables minerals.
Have you visited the oil sands of Canada? The open pit cowl mines? Florida's phophate mines?
I believe we need to mine the planet to save the planet.
@@anabolicamaranth7140 we are already mining the planet, were you unaware of the tar sands of Canada?
A boom in green energy manufacturing would be like starting the Industrial Revolution all over again. Earths biosphere just can’t take that kind of abuse anymore. And this is coming from someone who owns an EV. A global Boom would accelerate everything.
@@ImproveYourMagic If the Earth cannot afford mining any longer let's shut the tar sands mines down immediately. While we are at it the entire fossil fuels industry ought to be shut down, too.
Thank you for posting
Yep, obviouscat is obvious, I have been preparing for this for about a decade. This winters project is to complete my heatwave shelter: a passively cooled earth shelter cottage near my workshop, the passive cooling is ground sourced and driven by a solar chimney. But the real preparation is not just physical survival, its coming up with a way to maintain access to technical resources without the existing supply chain - its called "The CubeSpawn Project" This project is something I have personally funded and has been a work in progress for about 20 years - the premise is: from a small scale manufacturing base all other things are possible. without it survivors will lose 100's of years of progress and knowledge and are unlikely to even retain the lesson this collapse could teach their descendants.
Hey all of that sounds nice and everything but humans will not be able to grow any food once global temperatures increase by 4 -6 degrees Celsius
Which is why this plan includes a climate controlled "Growhouse" I have 3 pallets of LED grow lights and about 5 KW of solar panels - I cannot save the world, but i can cushion our family's trip through the decline, and just think! Carbon production is about to to take a sharp drop ;-), in 100-150 years things should be back to "normal" -ish
Great presentation , cutting down on c02 is this actually possible , we have created a machine where oil is in or related to almost everything from clothing to, plastics, electricity and heating for our manufacturing base. we do not move live nor breath without oil based products.
THANK YOU!!!!
Thanks all
..."we have to do with less, in this part of the world"...Wisely spoken!
If it is too hot and dry grains can’t be grown at scale a big chunk of humanity will die
I wonder if the current withdrawal of affordable insurance from home owners in Florida, Louisiana and other places will mobilise public pressure on politicians in rich countries
Thank you so much for speaking the truth to us 👍
He guys . I admire what you are doing but there is no hope that this will stop. We are in an extinction event which will run it's course.
I studied Oekology in Europe in the 80 s and dropped out after two years with no hope for a change. I'm a realist and all the effort and all the money should go into private projects which makes sure that the human race survives this.
Please do the math. All the carbon in form of oil. coal and gas needed hundreds of millions of years to grow as carbon forests, break down and compost and so on. That were times when the planet was a big sump, a hot house with no ice on the poles. That is where we go. We are burning the plants of 100 million years of growth in 200 years. Now the world economy is falling apart. All those countries with high population will burn more cheap oil and coal and gas.
You guys are 50 years behind. I'm really sorry but open your eyes.
Ps The next big event on the horizon is the explosion of the Methane hydrates in the low waters of the Siberean Shelf.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
That's bit to dramatic. I would be interested what you are doing on your personal level to survive the coming years. What are you doing for yourself. your friends .family? @@sedonars1 My guess is nothing.
We may have an AMOC shutdown, which could put a curve ball to all of this, but the outcome will be the same.
Yes sadly I can't see a way out. I moved from Europe to Canada 15 years ago. Moving further north is an option . Let's see and wait. @@justmenotyou3151
With the AMOC shut down we would have different places to survive than otherwise@@justmenotyou3151
is it possible,..that we have reached the "Energy" of Phase Transition?
Are We the Pop on the Table in the sunshine with no Ice left in the water?
Peter mentions the hypocrisy of our governments, but it needs a spotlight thrown on it and media is ignoring it. Canada for example is building not just that massive LNG complex, but it's spending 30 billion on a new pipeline so we can export much more. That LNG complex is a humongous monster, it just blew me away how huge it is, but I only became aware of its multi year construction two weeks ago. But we are paying significant carbon taxes that frequently continue to increase. It makes no sense, unless its a scam.
It's a scam.
Same where I live, huge methane projects, emitting millions of T of CO2.
In western Australia.. but the greenwash like he'll to make up for it.
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our numbers is a weakness. we are consuming our way out of existence. half as many people means each one gets twice as much. we don't have to be poor we just need to control our numbers. thank you🙏
The maximum human population the earth can sustain is probably about three billion people. We are now bouncing off of nine. Just like yeast in a wine bottle, we will be poisoned to death by our own shit.
Two words, Guy McPherson!
You are correct.
Stellar climate scientists telling it how it is.
thank you!
Thank you for your work.
Paul put on his best shirt for this.
Greenlands on his mind
Good observation!
@@timothydempsey3763 It looks like it's melting
More hopium :(
SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN like we did during the pandemic … SUBSIDIZING AND PROTECTING FRONT LINE WORKERS … for at least 3 MONTHS.
Most countries emitting fossil fuels the most CAN DO THAT!
After the three months… we start up again for three months THEN ANOTHER 3 MONTHS OFF for at least 2 years.
In the meantime we can start redirecting and financing more renewable projects.
Please correct your channel name to "Facing No-Future".
Brilliant
Why do you think co2 would create destroy us?
@@kmoses582 If you have to ask......................................!
Politicians still think it is the holocene, and are deploying tired old strategies without any critical analysis whatsoever. New policy must consist of ontologically rational strategies such as removing limited liability for all the entire fossil fuel industry for a start - all such 'industry' being put directly under administrative control . No sign of such policies means that we are an ontologically defective species, (or multispecies).
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
One world. One people. Deep peace please
Weather events are not climate. Between 1961 and 2021 cereal production increased 250% and cereal yield increased over 200%. Land used for cereal hardly increased (Data from World Bank, FAO/UN). This is the only time in human history that you are more likely to be overfed rather than underfed. We should be thankful we were borne into an age of such abundance. A US DoE study (Taylor & Schlenker, 2021) estimated that a 1 ppm increase in CO2 led to an increase of 0.4%, 0.6% and 1% in yield for corn, soybeans and wheat, respectively, and that CO2 increase was the main driver of the 500% yield growth in corn since 1940.
In the midwest we are in a heat dome. I think not many care about past reports. We are worried about the near future.
@annettemack4825 They've renamed high pressure systems "Heat Domes" to make them sound scary and then they do a graphic about you being trapped under them. It's laughable. If you're worried about the near future you're worried about the weather not the climate.
I was not clear on the explanation of methane effect. Even if we stopped all CO2 emission at this moment, the temperature will continue to rise for at least a decade. I am of the opinion that this will happen for much longer given the time it takes for nature to deal with CO2. Putting that aside for now, would it not be logical that methane emissions will continue to rise for at least that decade negating any reductions we may make in CO2 emmissions. Methane has a far stronger green house effect than CO2, thus any reductions in CO2 becomes a mute point. The only way now is removal, thus urgent development of the technology needed to generate the amount of energy this requires is of paramount importance.
Well if you are accelerating towards a cliff at some point the law of gravity will take over but at some point you certainly will stop accelerating. You will be dead.
@@sentientflower7891 Well, that kind of sums it up, albeit in stronger terms than mine. That said, I am not convinced that humanity lost, but we must act posthaste and that must be in a coordinated and focussed way. From a more philosophical view point. In a hundred years, 99% of the people alive today will in any event be dead. Perhaps there is an opportunity here to limit population growth over this period and thus limit the pressure on our environment and resources.
@@larsmathiesen humankind hasn't done anything yet, isn't doing anything now so it is safe to conclude that Humankind will do absolutely nothing except accelerate straight into a brick wall and go extinct in a horrific and prolonged manner.
@@larsmathiesen That's right, 30 yeas ago perhaps. Those in control chose to ignore science and pursue the human fabrication of fake money. We have entered the event horizon already, and the momentum is increasing. We cant instantly stop and reverse in the same moment while we have been moving at 100mph. Basic high school physics man, like flower dude said. We will need decades to slow down, and more to reverse, but instead we are now speeding up. Denial is easier, I get, it sucks.
What happens when we demand our ag workers get us those fresh veggies when the wet bulb temps will kill them? Insane.
WE agree -farm workers must be protected!
I was having a conversation with my son who believes nuclear power is a huge part of what will help us move away from fossil fuel. He wants an geo-engineering solution. I think it is an all hands on deck situation and everything from small scale nuclear, to shifting populations into more sustainable areas, to carbon sequestration, to diversified agriculture will need to be adopted. We (westernized cultures) will need to change our consumption patterns as well as our expectations. Thoughts?
All I can say is Guy McPherson.
Weather events are not climate. As regards flooding, the U.N. IPCC admits having “low confidence” in even the “sign” of any changes-in other words, it is just as likely that climate change is making floods less frequent and less severe. In a study on the climate impact on flooding for the USA and Europe, published in the Journal of Hydrology, Volume 552, September 2017, Pages 704-717, the study found:
‘The number of significant trends was about the number expected due to chance alone.’
‘Changes in the frequency of major floods are dominated by multidecadal variability.’
‘The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded (Hartmann et al., 2013) that globally there is no clear and widespread evidence of changes in flood magnitude or frequency in observed flood records.’
‘The results of this study, for North America and Europe, provide a firmer foundation and support the conclusion of the IPCC that compelling evidence for increased flooding at a global scale is lacking.’
Apparently, you haven't read the EPA report or the research being sent to congress.
@annettemack4825 So are you saying let's forget the IPCC? Amen to that.
We refused to listen to all warnings for at least five decades. What else did you expect to happen ??? I expect climate events to reverse overpopulation in most brutal ways this century.
The world is not overpopulated,just run by the greediest with no conscience
All we are told non stop is that it is catastrophic.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
@@sedonars1 oh well that's that then
I'm no expert, but it concerns me that the IPCC is spoken about without emphasising it is a consensus organisation and such organisations are inevitably conservative. The IPCCs position is very important but I suggest they set minimum standards, not ideally safe ones.
I am afraid we have boxed ourselves into a corner. Whatever happens, when or how, we know that millions of people will die.
Sadly...
If we reduced fossil fuel emissions wouldn’t that reduce the aerosol masking effect, thus causing the planet to warm up even faster?
Dr Ye Tao says anthropogenic aerosols are hiding ~+1C of warming. So if we stop burning fossil fuels, (and do nothing to compensate for the loss of aerosol masking), then based on the accelerated warming indicated by Hansen we’re looking at ~+3C in 20 years and a one-way ticket to Hothouse Earth.
Point of no return
My understanding is it’s hiding 1.5 - 2 Celsius.
Regardless, an immediate halt would give the biosphere would react horrifically to the sudden shock.
We we have to do it gradually. But that requires us to continue burning Co2 which won’t help either.
There just isn’t enough time to do anything. Abrupt and runaway is just what’s going to happen. Anything we do will just accelerate the warming at this point. It’s hard to grasp how F’d we and non humans are.
Marginally and temporarily, yes.
Earth remembers what you did for your VCR’s, electric stoves, TV’s and your unopened collectible trophies from Star Wars to Barbie dolls.
Earth feels the attacks for your PlayStations, cellphones, EV’s, solar panels, flat screens, diesel engines, and your temperature controlled homes.
Earths biosphere does not care about your political and religious beliefs, or your blame games. She is appalled at the diners of meat, dairy, eggs, and marine life.
When the clock strikes 2.5 Celsius, Earth will drown your PlayStation with her tears.
And after FedEx fails to deliver your package due to washed out coastal transport highways, Earth will not care that you are unable to give a one star review to Amazon due to internet being down.
And Earth will not hear your cries over her thunder as you shout, “but we wanted to create economic growth and prosperity!” When the clock strikes 2.5 Celsius.
Hear the words 2.5 Celsius on every Bday, anniversary, baby shower, and the all mighty Black Friday and Xmass season as the fourth fiscal quarter closes.
We’ve committed to 5+ Celsius. It’s a done deal. The sixth extinction has been signed and sealed.
And it will be the extinction to end all extinctions.
Sweet Dreams
@@timothydempsey3763Thanks!
The planetary /earth system is entering a phase of transition that may represent a state change. We are now in situation of "permanent crisis" for the next few decades. The interaction of several key processes across the planet are producing an acceleration and amplification of the global heating and biodiversity crises. The vested of the fossil fuel industry and their investors now pose the central existential threat to the future safety of human beings. Fossil fuel Emissions must fall... Immediately and permanently.
Vested interests
You only left out the safety of non human animals and the Aerosol Masking Effects.
“Permanent Crises” and it’s acceleration is frightening.
After researching this for the past 10 years, and combining it with my acute sense of the human and ecological systems on the macro level, I have the following timeline.
2023/2024 El Nino generated crop failures, mass flooding and accelerated sea ice melting (along with delayed refreeze in autumn 2024).
Blue Ocean Event on the Arctic ocean August of 2025, and release of latent heat index. Methane explosions in the arctic ocean and the tundra summer of 2026. Exponential increase in land based heating summer of 2026 resulting in 80% crop failures in the Northern Hemisphere.
Mass destabilization of world governments and civil unrest as grocery stores go empty winter of 2026/27. Martial law established in US, Europe and Asia spring of 2027 forces hundreds of millions of would be climate refugees to "die in place".
THE WILD CARD=Nuclear plant meltdowns in Europe and Asia summer of 2027 begin to irradiate the atmosphere resulting in billions of casualties across the globe by 2028. Continued exponential heating in 2029 along with increasingly irradiated atmosphere causes a global mass extinction event by 2030. Earth loses it's last shreds of life supporting atmosphere to become Mars’ sister extinct planet.
But by all means, let's just "keep drilling for oil" - Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, Modi, and every other FF sociopath running this life giving planet into the void!
@@sedonars1 I can see the first half of your comment stopping at 2026 as plausible.
Which leads to the 2nd half of your comment starting at 2027 as possible.
Thank you for the horrific imagery now stuck in my mind.
Methane (CH4) is only 0.00019% (1.9 parts per million) of the atmosphere. Both of its narrow absorption bands occur at wavelengths where H2O is already absorbing substantially. Hence, any radiation that CH4 might absorb has already been absorbed by H2O. With the concentration of water vapour in the atmosphere being between 1,000 and 20,000 times greater than CH4, the effects of CH4 are completely masked by H2O.
Curious that no one even mentions the root cause of this and all other problems we’re experiencing…
The feed back loops are my greatest fear. We will have no control over these feed back loops. We are doomed. Only God can save us. We are too blind to see the truth. God bless all three of you. Amen
The Why is more important than the What. Nothing can be done as the trigger has been pulled and all we have is the delay of the flash. Reflect on where you wish to go. Hospice is the only real parable I can think of.
Correct.
It's NEVER too expensive and never too much money to spend on the climate problems . And more expensive to lose humanity. There's nothing else to lose. If all the money in the world isn't spent fully on climate problems if it requires all the money, then nothing else matters, because no survivors left
There’s only two tasks we can focus on.
1- prepare people mentally now so we can manage the upcoming chaos the best we can.
2- Try to relocate trees, animals, and insects to regions we think will be their best chances in a 10 Celsius world. (even if unlikely for success.)
We can ignore saving marine life because their habitat has zero chances at this point. From the 100 nuclear plants within expected sea level rise, low population from over fishing, acidification, and detoxification, marine life doesn’t stand a chance.
Worse than the Permian-Triassic extinction for the oceans.
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We’re toast, literally, between what warming is in the pipeline that we don’t feel yet but will, and self reinforcing feedbacks.
Focus on reducing the co2 is pointless, that is not the solution. The solution is in technology, like for example, sai, ccs, water cleaning farms for sea water, artificiell environment etc. Im like 99,9999% sure we will fix this with technology, reducing co2 is to late, way to late. The co2 is not going anyway (without ccs) and it has a delay effect on 10-40 yrs. So reducing co2 significantly now, would just cause unnecessary harm, and also be counterproductive.
sobering stuff
Professor Albert Bartlett: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."
Almost every chart shows the pattern of exponential growth! A look at his teachings is highly recommended...
We are going to have a population crash. I hope that humans survive.
They will not.
Weather events are not climate change. Deserts have shrunk considerably since the 1980's. The Sahara shrank by 12,000km² per year 1984-2015(Liu & Xue, 2020). The Earth has greened by 15% or more in a human lifetime. "The greening of the planet over the last two decades represents an increase in leaf area on plants and trees equivalent to the area covered by all the Amazon rainforests. There are now more than two million square miles of extra green leaf area per year"(NASA, 2019). Observations of Earth’s vegetative cover since the year 2000 by NASA’s Terra satellite show a 10% increase in vegetation in the first 20 years of the century. Global tree canopy cover increased by 2.24 million square kilometers (865,000 square miles) between 1982 and 2016 (Nature, 2018). As well as human intervention, the reasons for this include forests expanding polewards aided by additional CO2 and a slight rise in temperature.
China is greening their deserts by planting trees to decrease desertification and increase crop production.
@richardpeychers4076 That will explain the Sahara greening and advance of the treeline northwards.
You’re slowly starting to understand. Another few years maybe it will become clear. Good luck 😉 lol
Weather events are not climate. If you took away El Niño, a record increase in Total Solar Irradiance, and the Tonga eruption (all natural events) there would be nothing to see.
The Tonga eruption injected 142 megatonnes of water vapour into the stratosphere, increasing its water content by 15%. Water vapour is a far more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2.
Total solar irradiance: satellite data from 1979 onwards shows June 2023 at an all time high in over 40 years of measurements (ncei.noaa). There were lows below 1361 W/m² in 2019 to current highs over 1362 W/m² in June (using a lowess curve, which also shows the fastest rate of increase during this recent period). So we are looking at a change of around 1½ Watts over the course of 5 years (the maximum difference is 2.1W/m²). That may not sound much but it exceeds the increase in the Earth's Energy Imbalance (0.9 W/m², 2018 - 1.97 W/m², 2023) (NASA CERES EBAF TOA). Overall the current increase in solar irradiance should give a direct global heating effect of +0.1°C, with an indirect effect of +0.2°C (after Schmutz, 2021). This increase in solar irradiance is related to an earlier than expected increase in sunspot activity, which has not yet reached its zenith, and that may not happen for several years (Royal Observatory Belgium), so further heating from this cause can be expected.
So increase in TSI 2019- 2023 = 2.1W/m2. Increase in EEI for the same period ≈ 1W/m². Maybe I'm being dense, but doesn't that mean that without the increase in TSI, the EEI would be in negative territory?
Sea surface temperatures (SST) were trending downwards 2000-2018 (HadSST 4), and from 1950-1980, and from 1880-1910. The oceans warmed at a faster rate 1910-1940 than 1980-2010. Remember CO2 has been accumulating in the atmosphere at an accelerating rate all the time, so there is little correlation between the two.
The ocean has warmed rapidly and repeatedly during the current interglacial with no correlation to CO2 e.g. 10,300-10,200 years before the present (y BP), 9,500y BP, 6,000-5,900y BP, 5,400-5,300y BP, 2,500-2,300y BP, 1,700-1,600y BP (Berner et al., 2008). There is a high frequency (18 events) of SST variability on the order of 1-3°C during a 10-50 year time resolution throughout the Holocene in the North Atlantic with no correlation to CO2.
Why isn't the Premier of Alberta being called to task for making money on being the biggest emitter? Why is she getting a pass?