One thought that should be added to this, with the heeters maki and oil, Frieza could have 73 (assuming that they still get 73), and that technology could be implemented into his new upgrades. Imagine a black Frieza with mecha like upgrades and the ability to steal techniques. Or even 73 being repaired and being friezas training partner/reprogramed soldier. This is something I’d keep in mind if you ever do make another part once super returns.
That's a great idea, 7-3 is another one of those mini-bosses that gets pretty overlooked since he also winds up used as a McGuffin for Granolah's introduction so an extended role and a place on Frieza's new first hand recruited crew of formerly defeated enemies of the Z-fighters to make his own would be pretty hype imo. I could also definitely see Frieza taking advantage of 7-3's creator and maybe recruiting him before Granolah even gets that job on his ship, so his new army could just be the rest of the OG androids from space.
Love the power scaling info before getting into the scenario, helps alot of people get comfortable with feats never before seen by characters later on.
The average human PL is around 5(Maybe 6), the Future Androids are at least 720 Million(2x Trunks low end) and closer to the billions more likely. The Present Androids dominate Vegeta who we can assume is low end 1 Billion(Assuming his base isn't above Mecha Frieza) So let's say 2 billion. 400 Million Multiplier for being turned into a Cyborg by Gero who was using very limited resources vs a Bulma with all the resources that is arguably smarter, has help from her father if needed and has the knowledge of Gero's failures + blueprints for 17 and 18. That boost would probably be closer to a trillion.💀 Almost forgot, Bulma would have Data from the entire Cell Saga, so yeah a trillion at least
I think it would be awesome to see this version of the Dragon Team face off against Android 21, who would likely make her own set of androids after herself, to continue Gero’s work, which could mean a much stronger android threat than ever before.
I'll be honest, I do not see Bulma making her Androids just like Gero. I see her going a little overboard by making it so her androids are made to evolve and adapt by simply gathering information. So basically Bulma would make androids like the big ghetti star, but they would break down information like Buu. Maybe Bulma could add in genetic absorption, most likely she would want to use cell to advance her androids more.
Either way you slice it anything she does would be more impressive than anything we've seen Gero or Hedo do, Dr. Slump may legit be the only scientific mind loosely in the verse that could even rival Bulma or Dr. Briefs truly IMO For example one of the reasons I feel like Android Trunks would be story-breaking is if he has the time machine kinda built in he could do so much with it. Like he could technically go back in the past and affect the construction of his cybernetics so he gets different builds or forms of himself, like a bootleg version of OG-73's copying or Bonney's toshi toshi no mi in One Piece.
I really liked that you expanded on this and why you might, or might not expand on this. On a side note, but related since its about humans, I have a hot take among the fandom. TLDR: Human potential isn't that drastically lower then Saiyan's natural multiplier's aside; but if you want the longer version its below this. The main issue is their training sucks, yes, even Tien post King Kai. So this doesn't entirely belong to me but there was a video titled "How Strong Could The Earthlings Be If They Trained Efficiently?" By BeanBoi Yami which I do recommend as there part 1 and 2 but besides the point. One of the main points is when trained properly, humans actually grow really fast. The main issue they don't take advantage of the many things around them. There is no gravity training, no training with those stronger then themselves, etc. Sure Tien trains hard, but he doesn't seek everything presented to him. Could even argue there is some pride and stubbornness wanting to make his own way instead of asking for help. Also, remember Sayain's in the old days didn't even reach half of the Ginyu force power level, and some many were decades old. If asked, most people will say because of their training methods which goes to my point genetics are part of the battle.(Unless you're like Frieza and such) Goku and Vegeta only reached the level they are currently because of those around them and the resources they had at their finger tips, which is something the humans don't do. Hell, depending how you scale DBS Krillin its more insane because he's That strong with sub par training for the most part. So while I think Sayain's have more natural potential, its not as bad or as hopeless as a lot of the fandom thinks imo. A human can do it, but they also have to mini-max more and be creative.
that’s deep to think about if Human z fighters were androids they’ll be strong like super series 17 and 18 If 17 and 18 weren’t androids they’ll be levels of human z fighters since they were humans before going android If saiyan hybrids went androids their potential would be super fast in fighting and training
Remembering that canonically the conversion from human to Android/Cyborg is 64,000,000 million. If the current Z/Super warriors go through the conversion, their fighting power reaches a trillion. In other words, the converted humans would gain so much power, thus being able to equal and surpass Vegeta and Goku if they trained, see Lapis/N°17 who in the DBSuper Manda went head to head with SonGoku SSJ3 at full power! I think Toyotarou doesn't make this idea happen because they, the humans, would become the co-protagonists.
I honestly don’t think the humans becoming androids would do much in the beginning because it seem more like the androids gets the majority of their strength from the data gero gathered rather than just the surgery itself
@@khavontemobley7306 The series just doesn’t support that conclusion. That was more the case for Cell since he actually applied the data, the rest were just about how strong Gero thought he needed to make the machines and cybernetics. Also keep in mind Gero stopped collecting data after the Saiyan Saga ended and the androids were still initially stronger than all the Z-fighters combined, so that alone suggests the androids were really more about the strength and builds for their cybernetics or fully mechanical bodies in whatever case. Even if that was the case the humans would still have better data to apply to the procedure than Gero since it’d all be collected first hand and non-covertly for one thing, and by again a better scientist. So even if your conclusion was supported it wouldn’t really apply here.
Bruh gotta chill, "Beerus's rival already rising up" with a wasp on the screeen is Crazy 🤣 Btw, man who commissions your artwork man, junk has always looked cool to maybe commission myself
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One thought that should be added to this, with the heeters maki and oil, Frieza could have 73 (assuming that they still get 73), and that technology could be implemented into his new upgrades. Imagine a black Frieza with mecha like upgrades and the ability to steal techniques. Or even 73 being repaired and being friezas training partner/reprogramed soldier. This is something I’d keep in mind if you ever do make another part once super returns.
That's a great idea, 7-3 is another one of those mini-bosses that gets pretty overlooked since he also winds up used as a McGuffin for Granolah's introduction so an extended role and a place on Frieza's new first hand recruited crew of formerly defeated enemies of the Z-fighters to make his own would be pretty hype imo. I could also definitely see Frieza taking advantage of 7-3's creator and maybe recruiting him before Granolah even gets that job on his ship, so his new army could just be the rest of the OG androids from space.
Thankyou for putting this all into one, Plus
Love the power scaling info before getting into the scenario, helps alot of people get comfortable with feats never before seen by characters later on.
The average human PL is around 5(Maybe 6), the Future Androids are at least 720 Million(2x Trunks low end) and closer to the billions more likely. The Present Androids dominate Vegeta who we can assume is low end 1 Billion(Assuming his base isn't above Mecha Frieza) So let's say 2 billion. 400 Million Multiplier for being turned into a Cyborg by Gero who was using very limited resources vs a Bulma with all the resources that is arguably smarter, has help from her father if needed and has the knowledge of Gero's failures + blueprints for 17 and 18. That boost would probably be closer to a trillion.💀 Almost forgot, Bulma would have Data from the entire Cell Saga, so yeah a trillion at least
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9:57 the average NYC roach is easily a continent buster
The only thing that can beat them is the avg nyc rat afterall so that checks out
I think it would be awesome to see this version of the Dragon Team face off against Android 21, who would likely make her own set of androids after herself, to continue Gero’s work, which could mean a much stronger android threat than ever before.
Hey my comment got a shout-out! Dope!!
Wolf fang fist which is like black flash would be interesting
I love this what if so much, anything that gives a logical spotlight to the earthlings is great.
I'll be honest, I do not see Bulma making her Androids just like Gero. I see her going a little overboard by making it so her androids are made to evolve and adapt by simply gathering information.
So basically Bulma would make androids like the big ghetti star, but they would break down information like Buu. Maybe Bulma could add in genetic absorption, most likely she would want to use cell to advance her androids more.
Either way you slice it anything she does would be more impressive than anything we've seen Gero or Hedo do, Dr. Slump may legit be the only scientific mind loosely in the verse that could even rival Bulma or Dr. Briefs truly IMO
For example one of the reasons I feel like Android Trunks would be story-breaking is if he has the time machine kinda built in he could do so much with it. Like he could technically go back in the past and affect the construction of his cybernetics so he gets different builds or forms of himself, like a bootleg version of OG-73's copying or Bonney's toshi toshi no mi in One Piece.
Oh shit he could also just go back in time to train himself or just make a bunch of clones through time that gang up on you 💀
@@PlusUltraMan very true its a good thing Gero did not gather data on Arale
@@PlusUltraMan in a way he could, but isn't that Goku Black move
I really liked that you expanded on this and why you might, or might not expand on this. On a side note, but related since its about humans, I have a hot take among the fandom. TLDR: Human potential isn't that drastically lower then Saiyan's natural multiplier's aside; but if you want the longer version its below this. The main issue is their training sucks, yes, even Tien post King Kai.
So this doesn't entirely belong to me but there was a video titled "How Strong Could The Earthlings Be If They Trained Efficiently?" By BeanBoi Yami which I do recommend as there part 1 and 2 but besides the point. One of the main points is when trained properly, humans actually grow really fast. The main issue they don't take advantage of the many things around them. There is no gravity training, no training with those stronger then themselves, etc. Sure Tien trains hard, but he doesn't seek everything presented to him. Could even argue there is some pride and stubbornness wanting to make his own way instead of asking for help.
Also, remember Sayain's in the old days didn't even reach half of the Ginyu force power level, and some many were decades old. If asked, most people will say because of their training methods which goes to my point genetics are part of the battle.(Unless you're like Frieza and such) Goku and Vegeta only reached the level they are currently because of those around them and the resources they had at their finger tips, which is something the humans don't do. Hell, depending how you scale DBS Krillin its more insane because he's That strong with sub par training for the most part.
So while I think Sayain's have more natural potential, its not as bad or as hopeless as a lot of the fandom thinks imo. A human can do it, but they also have to mini-max more and be creative.
Telling myself to not make a reference to the Adeptus Mechanicus or the Thunder Warriors the Emperor of Mankind created to unify Terra.....
Someday I will make a genuine attempt to learn warhammer lore
@@PlusUltraMan I feel it necessary to warn you: The lore goes deeper beyond rabbit holes.
Need what if trunks was an android
I will likely jump on it when I figure out a design I'd really like to make it stand out
Huh, a timeline where Bulma invests into replicating Gero's androidfication rather than time travel...
Nice Cell RX
If android 17 could become so strong I’m sure krillin would be around Jiren level .
that’s deep to think about if Human z fighters were androids they’ll be strong like super series 17 and 18
If 17 and 18 weren’t androids they’ll be levels of human z fighters since they were humans before going android
If saiyan hybrids went androids their potential would be super fast in fighting and training
Remembering that canonically the conversion from human to Android/Cyborg is 64,000,000 million. If the current Z/Super warriors go through the conversion, their fighting power reaches a trillion. In other words, the converted humans would gain so much power, thus being able to equal and surpass Vegeta and Goku if they trained, see Lapis/N°17 who in the DBSuper Manda went head to head with SonGoku SSJ3 at full power!
I think Toyotarou doesn't make this idea happen because they, the humans, would become the co-protagonists.
What if Goku Landed at the Krane School? (There's no head bump on Goku by default)
If they're all Android's, they'll be immortals and incredibly strong
I honestly don’t think the humans becoming androids would do much in the beginning because it seem more like the androids gets the majority of their strength from the data gero gathered rather than just the surgery itself
@@khavontemobley7306 The series just doesn’t support that conclusion. That was more the case for Cell since he actually applied the data, the rest were just about how strong Gero thought he needed to make the machines and cybernetics. Also keep in mind Gero stopped collecting data after the Saiyan Saga ended and the androids were still initially stronger than all the Z-fighters combined, so that alone suggests the androids were really more about the strength and builds for their cybernetics or fully mechanical bodies in whatever case.
Even if that was the case the humans would still have better data to apply to the procedure than Gero since it’d all be collected first hand and non-covertly for one thing, and by again a better scientist. So even if your conclusion was supported it wouldn’t really apply here.
Bruh gotta chill, "Beerus's rival already rising up" with a wasp on the screeen is Crazy 🤣
Btw, man who commissions your artwork man, junk has always looked cool to maybe commission myself
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