it is sad that so many ppl complained about the map while fh4 was the newest game and now it is seen as a great map. fh4 map was finally given its flowers
Ppeople didn't complain about the map, they complained about the weather, me included. Having a whole week of just snow everywhere and wet was a bit annoying back then
@@DUBSmbthats fair i guess. other than fh2, fh4 is definitely was favorite overall game. always enjoyed opening it up and playing. loved the map and i guess i would say im in the minority in saying i liked the drastic season changes as well
@@DUBSmbPeople did complain about the map a lot. I remember back when this was the latest game, everyone said how the map was boring, that it was only grass and that FH3 was more diverse, etc. People tend to start appreciating things when they don't have them anymore
Horizon 5's map is a big empty desert with some forest areas , Horizon 4 had it all , from lil towns to a beautiful city Edinburgh to the forests and dirt trails to mountains areas to the lakes with attraction sites....Horizon 5 is gritty and dry like real life , while Horizon 4 is a dream place with full of life and colors from our fantasies.
Man, i love this old map. So much trees, small houses, all the grass, old city of Edinburgh. And a little bit of a controversial opinion - i love the winter season, its so unique. Wish FH6 would have same great map as FH4.
Please no don’t doom us with another years worth of Great Britain map is boring as hell crazy people cal Mexico boring if you really think about it they’re both boring maps like seriously Mexico and Great Britain are the 2 exiting maps we get 😂 what about La or Chicago Texas hell Kentucky. Why not let’s country these horizon games up a little bit
The sense of speed is radically different in this game as well. When you have houses blitzing by you it feels like you're going the speed of light, but when you have open sand dunes on your right it barely looks like your moving.
I used to kind of enjoy changing up my clothes and houses with the seasons. Summer at the beach house, winter in town, spring by the lake, etc. Appropriate clothing for the weather. Silly, but kind of fun to actually have a point for the choices. Now, I never bother to change either.😢
Driving somewhere that felt like home in cars I could only dream of was what made it for me, not to mention the UK is perfect for both dirt and road racing the map is simply gorgeous and has such great attention to detail it's hard not to love it.
To me it seems like their primary goal was to make FH4s map feel like you’re actually driving around the UK, and were proud of it like you said, with the beauty spots. Whereas FH5 it seems like their goal was to create a huge map with a ton of roads, and then add a quick coat of paint to make it look like Mexico, but in doing so it lost that ~feel~ that 4 had.
It’s like you people forget there’s a whole jungle part of the map I’m getting tired of people saying they just see sand like have your even explored the lower parts of the map 😂
Horizon 4 is one of the prettiest racing games I've played, so pleasing to look at. I think it comes down to the colors. Horizon 5 is a lot more impressive in the technical sense but it ends up just "flat". Plus the proper seasons add a lot, there are 4 distinct maps instead of 1, gives a lot of variety and personality to the game.
To be fair to FH5 the Rally Adventure map is pretty damn good, but I would rate Fortune Island slightly higher. Couldn’t care less about the Lego and Hot Wheels maps
Lego had some pretty good roads and races. There were some rallies that were particularly enjoyable, and it had the race track with the banked turns. Crashing through the Lego scenery was sort of fun; the sound of it was somehow very satisfying. I really hated seeing those Lego cars pop up on the main map, though. Made me unreasonably annoyed!
it's the winding, flowy roads with elevation changes and tight lanes. fh5 has wide, flat roads with no flow, just straight line, corner, straight line, corner and so on.
5's map should have been more like the rally expansion - as small as that one is, it's a lot of fun to drive around. 4's vibrant colors works SO WELL for the Lego expansion, which is charming and whimsical, and I love it. Both games are good. 4's map with 5's game mechanics would be *perfect* for me. YMMV. They're both great games with different strengths.
I loved horizon 4 team games like infection, king and flag. Just wish they kept it every week in the festive playlist so now i have to play it once a month. Also i love it when there where so many post for team games, it made it so much fun, now it is queit as a ghost.
The video is talking about how people prefer the FH4 map to 5. Not the car sounds you melon. You’re the one making up stories in your head when we’re not even talking about it in the video 😂
@ does it matter look at all of what else I said to back up my claims be quiet I could care less you got TH-cam power brother 😂 doesn’t mean your not incorrect gtfooh and wake up to reality fh4s map isn’t even close to as detailed and immersive as 5s is if you enjoy playing a downgraded game on map that’s 50% of the size of 5s map so be it but don’t complain after you get bored again of it in 4 months I know how you people operate
It’s not about being correct or incorrect. Bro, take a step back and realise you’re being an idiot. In the video I said that in the comments of other videos, people have been saying that the map in 4 is better. I made a video showing why they said and agreeing with them. You are allowed to have a different opinion without talking shit. You can prefer FH5, nobody is stopping you but overly glazing the game and starting to talk shit because of it makes you look like an ape. You’re saying people are meat riding, but you’re doing the same thing but to a different game hahahaha
@@DUBSmb because I’m not sitting there trashing on the games map And just because it’s an opinion doesn’t mean it’s right sure the minority can lean towards fh4s map but are they correct about it being better? Probably not they captured real Mexican sky’s in fh5 they went all out with the Mexican aspect of the game and now people aren’t appreciating it enough when the game first came out everyone was hyped asf it was in Mexico and was happy while playing it same with fh4 then after a while people got bored of it that’s just how it is it’s not necessarily one maps better than the other map more or less it’s people played the game to much and got burnt out of the map it’s happened with both fh4 and 5 switches happen all the time people go from loving to hating to hating to loving again that’s just how it is 🤷♂️ both maps are fantastic if one’s boring that’s because you need the outside 😂
The 2 things I love doing in any game is exploring and testing the game's limits (glitching). So naturally I end up spending hours just trying to find out of bounds glitches and stuff you're not supposed to see. FH4 seemed more forgiving in the way it would let you go out of bounds. Even though most of the edges are walled, there still are certain holes you can go trough and you can drive outside the walls in quite a lot of places before you get teleported. Also I had to appreciate all the scenery outside the map, like the islands off the beach, the Edinburgh bridges, the river beyond Glenfinnan Viaduct... It just gives me a purpose to try to explore these places. FH5 had less walls but it was so easy to hit a teleport "wall", it just wasn't fun to explore around the outside areas. The lack of walls made it pretty hard to tell in what places were we allowed to drive or not, and the mechanic with losing grip just didn't quite work because a lot of the out of bound hills aren't even that steep. About the outside scenery I don't really have much to say. It seemed pretty bleak in comparison to FH4. I'd say the only gripe I've had with FH4 is the way it renders the map. You fly high enough and parts of the map just stop rendering. FH5 still suffers from this but it's not as bad I'd say.
Never heard of anyone loving a game so much where you can drive out of the games boundaries. Amazing! Gaming is great in all ways, and sometimes not the most obvious ways. I used to do it on Total Drivin on the PS1 haha
wow, I have not seen this game in ages. How i miss those times with the lads playing this drifting around or drag racing. Everyone stopped playing forza after 2 weeks of fh5. What a disappointment that game was at launch.
Forza Horizon 4 is a beauty. Taking 2 minutes to get to the intro - gameplay. Awesome! Everytime I visit this game I pause for the music to loop and enjoy the title screen. Thanks! I enjoy the Eliminator better here in FH4, too. More cars more details to the mode. Best introduction to my current day gaming.
I just love the UK over Mexico. You can't beat UK roads especially when you live in the UK, it feels like you're at home and thats why i will always love 4 over 5
Pre bought 5 and was very excited... game launched and was on it like mad ... did everything and well it jest seemed weak! The tuning changed so much that I was making builds that didn't work compared to 4! Lost the motivation to play and well haven't played since about 6 months from launch! I started w FH3 n Australia and had alot of fun and then 4 just took me over and then it all changed w 5!!! 4 is my favorite but completely lost interest w 5th version! Being an ol dude the tuning was too much to get w limited game time!
Alright, get ready for an essay. FH4’s map is so much better in comparison to FH5, and the reason is because that the map in 4 is relatable. Even if you don’t live in Britain you still understand it, you still know a lot of how it feels, and it’s still fresh to you because it’s a different area with new things to see. FH5 doesn’t have that level of connectedness, as it’s just a vast, open landscape with one historical town, not even modern, it’s historical. There’s no people to see roaming around like in FH4, there’s just desert. You don’t see storefronts, you just see the depressing, red and tan sands of Mexico reminding you of why that may have been the worst possible choice for a car game. If anything, FH5 has always felt like an apocalypse game more than anything. The thing that makes FH4, and the games prior special, isn’t that there’s much to do, but rather the sense of immersion you get driving from place to place. You feel connected because you see those things every day, storefronts, cities, big mall squares with lots to do. Everything in 4 feels like daily life but with differences slight enough to make them seem apparent to you that it’s fresh. It’s away from home but still that same grounded feeling of being somewhere that you fundamentally understand. FH5? None of that. It seems like you’re on a trip with a tour guide and you can’t find the guide, so you just decided to live in Mexico. Also, the reason why people complained about 4’s map is it wasn’t Japan. Everyone wanted Japan for whatever reason even though Britain is just fine
I still play more 4 than I do 5. They really dropped the ball on some stuff in 5 that really just made it hard for me to WANT to play 5. Its fun, sure. Just think 4 was a little better not only at launch but even arguably now that 5 is working on being sunset, its not better enough for me to talk too nicely about it. Ive been disappointed so many times.
FH4 had greater density of "stuff" but! the magic was the terrain worked with it so that you weren't looking at it all all at the same time, and transition from area to area feels pretty seamless.. I know FH5 is more sparse, and I know they were going for a more flat environment, but I think the combination of those two things and then throw in a number of jarring terrain changes from one section to the next, all worked against it. FH5 is good, but it's not **welcoming**.
had fh4 on game pass not realising it would be cut off completely from the store. Probably my favourite game of all time and i have no idea how i can play it again.
Living in the North East of England, this map will always be my favourite out of all the Horizon series. I live an hour away from Bamburgh and I’m always in Edinburgh for work and the detail in this game is stunning and does really compare to the real thing. FH5 is bloody boring and bland and I’ll honestly not go back to it when FH6 comes out but I’m really enjoying playing FH4 at the moment For sure, FH5 has some good things in it like the smoke from the tyres, decent car sounds, like DUBS says the colour is really good but it’s just a bit shit unfortunately and doesn’t offer the game play that FH4 offers. Simple things like the playground games, the rail yard and the mud kickers in FH4 absolutely pisses all over FH5’s offerings, there’s just nothing in FH5 that really makes you want to play it Looking forward to FH6, just hope they combine some of the good parts from both and make something brilliant as FH5 is not a patch on FH4, 7 years old and it’s still something special
You did not finish fh5 is 2 days, it’s literally impossible. Stop capping. Also there’s so much live content in the game, you can’t finish multiplayer games.
Must be fun to create story’s in your head and live by it seems that’s all people can do nowadays because rarely is the truth ever spoken in these videos
I live in Texas, and I enjoy FH5 more because it's honestly similar to roads I'm familiar with. Ya'll complain about it being "open" and "flat." You've clearly never seen farmland or a desert that stretches as far as the eye can see. That's fine. It's human nature to gravitate to things you're familiar with. As someone who's lived in the American Southwest most of their life, I enjoy FH5 far more than FH4. FH4 is good too, but you can keep the Winter map to yourself; it's funny to hear people complain that "Winter" in Mexico isn't very different from the other seasons, that's because it isn't. News flash, it almost never snows in Mexico, that's what happens when you're closer to the equator. The Horizon series excels at representing different locales and the car cultures that thrive there, and from that viewpoint, FH5 was a success. We're the lucky ones who get to enjoy them for what they are while driving like feckless idiots. If this were real Mexico, I'm sure I'd be on a Cartel hitlist by now for the number of families I've impacted when I smash into their car hitting the apex of a blind corner. Be safe out there, and remember that it's not the speed that will kill you, it's the sudden stop.
I don't disagree that FH5's map isn't accurate. I just don't think that Mexico was a good setting for the game. They went from being a game about a music festival with sick cars to now a learning about culture and cars added in. Just feels a bit out of place I dunno.
@@DUBSmb funny you say that because Mexico and Japan was the 2 most requested places for fh5 to take place And now people don’t like it is that because it’s exactly like Mexico and it’s not as fun as they thought “oh there’s sand everywhere” fkn welcome to Mexico 😂
The fh5 map is the biggest but it feels the smallest. Because It's empty. The driving experience is: empty fields, more empty fields, oh it's the fing pyramids again, somehow, for the 10000th time... great... It just makes the landmarks stand out by how boring it is and thus makes it seem smaller. Whereas I had 100x more hours in fh4 and somehow it never felt boring. I may have drove trough the same patch of woods 100 times and not noticed.
Empty no more empty than your brain because once you exit the city and festival’s fh4 is empty as well know what you’re talking about before you speak it because you sound mindless
Don't get me wrong I love fh5 and all the new additions that come with it but I couldn't agree more the fh4 map is just better in every way possible, it's honestly a shame and I really hope playground games can redeem themselves with fh6
Both maps have their flaws, in my opinion. Horizon 4s map is more pretty and designed better, but it was barely diverse. Horizon 5s map is full of diversity, (grasslands, farmland, forests, jungles, mountains, beaches, deserts, canyons, sand dunes, swamps, and has more elevation, but the issue is the most diverse and most elevated areas are around the outermost parts of the map, whereas the innermost part, which is most of the map, is flat and empty. And when it comes to the road variety. The roads in Horizon 4 were all pretty straight, with barely any tight turns, and Horizon 5 is a HUGE step up, and has the best roads in a Horizon game, in my opinion, especially with the Rally Adventure DLC, which many people agree that it has one of if not the best roads in all of Horizon.
yea all 1 lane roads absolutely riddled with potholes and then in the City you actually can't drive the car anywhere cause you'll be stuck behind the busses
My biggest gripe with FH5 is that it feels so flat and boriiiiing, so fucking boring. Yeah, I'm a bit biased cause I've played it for three years, but it feels like they designed the entire map solely for the Eliminator. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the game mode, but it shouldn't feel like it has so much influence on the map itself. I want cities, and towns, and little details. FH4 didn't have this, but I want more NPC car variety, like old beaters or dirty trucks or SOMETHING. Idk how they managed to make Mexico of all places feel dead.
The sense of adventure the way it looked between seasons getting all the cars. for a fun driving arcade like experience I find myself coming back again and again one more blast around beautiful scenery and finding landmarks . It's up there with Mario cart 8 in fun terms as for Forza horizon 5 just wasn't as enjoyable pretty lame overall boring experience
Had the feeling with 4 forza horizon 5s giant lush rainforest is such a Beautiful scenery like I can’t think of a place that’s more beautiful with landmarks and exploration than Mexico oh wait it seems some foolish minded individuals think boring asf Great Britain its more pretty than fkn Mexico yeah right at this point that’s how I know you people are saying things just to say it because rarely anyone on this planet is gonna say Great Britain’s more pretty and fun to explore and take in scenery than Mexico like let’s just be real here for a second and escape the delusional fantasy y’all are living in 😂
God I wish I could've bought this on PC but I didn't have the money... I still have it on console but it's such a botched, shitty experience compared to PC...
The maps has always been weak in the horizon games, its crazy how a much smaller team like kunos will make a so much better and more accurate map in assetto corsa evo. It will be like 15 times bigger than fh5 map. And will still have more life to it.
Welcome to Mexico have you considered growing a brain and opening up your eyeballs in your head because guess what Mexico is filled with sand and cacti not just that giant lush rain forests as well but people don’t include those parts of the map because they haven’t took the time to explore before complaining about sand
rally adventure on horizon 5 eats horizon 4 map, and its a good thing,.. the director of horizon 5 left the studio and people who worked on expansions are now in control of the series.
Yup, Torben Ellert (who has *Publicly decried* FH4/5, in Particular the "FOMO Chore Chart" (Playlist) and "the Eliminator" as the *Wrong Direction* for Horizon!) is in Charge now. Expect a BIG change with FH6.
It 100% does I get people are bored of fh5 right now and are returning to 4 so that gives them the feeling the maps better because they ain’t seen it in a while like seriously we live in delusion 😂
100% what’s gonna happen you know how I know? Because same thing happened with 4 literally and I remember this whole people was not happy about the map and Great Britain at all but now all the sudden they are yeah definitely what’s gonna happen with 5 after 6 comes out I can already see the video titles now. “We were to hard on fh5s map” “did fh5 have the best map in the series?” Why “ fh5 had the best map” like you can’t even make this up this is how people are 😂
I can think of at least some reasons 1) you're all racist, believe or not this is a reason I've seen on x being Mexican when any anglo ask about it 2) you have never seen or being on México and the image of Mexico the game gives us is like Hollywood movies they only missed the sepia filter 3) it is not Nihon, since forza 3 it's been asked to have a game in Nihon, something nearly impossible because the Nihon government wants to clean their illegal street racing image. 4) it's a lazy developed game, this being the main reason, Turn 10 only wanted to accomplish the calendar launch they were being asked, for that reason the game feels empty they missed by so far representing Mexican beauty
Bro started his statements with "you're all racists" hahahahaha. FH started with being a big EDM music festival with cool cars. It's turned into a here's a car game but you have to drive it in a place with no car culture and instead you have to learn about that culture. I don't care about Mexican culture. Just as (since I'm from Ireland) I wouldn't care less about Irish culture in a FH game. We all want sick cars with lots of customization and great music on amazing roads. That's core FH. You can see how since they got rid of "Rob Da Bank" after FH2 people hated the songs in the game and the purpose of the game shifted.
Mexican is not a race, and Mexico is actually pretty racist. Ask a Castilian about the Indios, and vice-veesa. It's an important distinction to them. So they really haven't a leg to stand on in that regard. Not that it will stop them, or anybody else, from chucking the term about whenever they think it will score them some points.
it is sad that so many ppl complained about the map while fh4 was the newest game and now it is seen as a great map. fh4 map was finally given its flowers
Ppeople didn't complain about the map, they complained about the weather, me included. Having a whole week of just snow everywhere and wet was a bit annoying back then
@@DUBSmbthats fair i guess. other than fh2, fh4 is definitely was favorite overall game. always enjoyed opening it up and playing. loved the map and i guess i would say im in the minority in saying i liked the drastic season changes as well
@@DUBSmbPeople did complain about the map a lot.
I remember back when this was the latest game, everyone said how the map was boring, that it was only grass and that FH3 was more diverse, etc.
People tend to start appreciating things when they don't have them anymore
@@Gonza_Horizon fh3 was more diverse.. just fh5 is even worse than 3 and 4
@@Gonza_HorizonGoing back to 2016 and everyone complained how bad FH3's Australia was. Its how things work sadly
Horizon 5's map is a big empty desert with some forest areas , Horizon 4 had it all , from lil towns to a beautiful city Edinburgh to the forests and dirt trails to mountains areas to the lakes with attraction sites....Horizon 5 is gritty and dry like real life , while Horizon 4 is a dream place with full of life and colors from our fantasies.
But the map wasn’t diverse enough. Both maps have their flaws, and I think that horizon 5 being gritty and dry was the point of it.
@@PlanetThrill its the uk. most depressing map for sure
@@rTrickz🐒🍌
No it isn't lol.
Man, i love this old map. So much trees, small houses, all the grass, old city of Edinburgh. And a little bit of a controversial opinion - i love the winter season, its so unique. Wish FH6 would have same great map as FH4.
I'm the same way. If people don't like the snow in races they can change the setting in blueprints
Please no don’t doom us with another years worth of Great Britain map is boring as hell crazy people cal Mexico boring if you really think about it they’re both boring maps like seriously Mexico and Great Britain are the 2 exiting maps we get 😂 what about La or Chicago Texas hell Kentucky. Why not let’s country these horizon games up a little bit
The sense of speed is radically different in this game as well. When you have houses blitzing by you it feels like you're going the speed of light, but when you have open sand dunes on your right it barely looks like your moving.
FH4 was so good partly because Playground Games are a british company. It was obvious that FH4 was a product of passion.
Yer totally agree
I used to kind of enjoy changing up my clothes and houses with the seasons. Summer at the beach house, winter in town, spring by the lake, etc. Appropriate clothing for the weather.
Silly, but kind of fun to actually have a point for the choices.
Now, I never bother to change either.😢
Driving somewhere that felt like home in cars I could only dream of was what made it for me, not to mention the UK is perfect for both dirt and road racing the map is simply gorgeous and has such great attention to detail it's hard not to love it.
To me it seems like their primary goal was to make FH4s map feel like you’re actually driving around the UK, and were proud of it like you said, with the beauty spots. Whereas FH5 it seems like their goal was to create a huge map with a ton of roads, and then add a quick coat of paint to make it look like Mexico, but in doing so it lost that ~feel~ that 4 had.
this intro making me cry fr
Because its not flat like superflat mode in minecraft
The only thing that’s superflat around here is your chest
All because of FH5 environment is so dry and dead, literary you have an abandon airstrip while in FH4 things are so lively.
theres an abounded airstrip in fh4 to😂
@@twistedkap3882 Ain't that bad compared to FH5 overgrown road and broken down buildings.
@@twistedkap3882It doesn’t matter. People like this will try and justify their nostalgia with self-contradictory criticisms lol.
It’s like you people forget there’s a whole jungle part of the map I’m getting tired of people saying they just see sand like have your even explored the lower parts of the map 😂
I lived in Edinburgh for a few months and I love it in FH4 so much. It’s always so uncanny driving around the city.
Some brilliant visuals at the beginning of the video, very atmospheric.
using the POI without any UI is so clever !
Horizon 4 is one of the prettiest racing games I've played, so pleasing to look at. I think it comes down to the colors. Horizon 5 is a lot more impressive in the technical sense but it ends up just "flat". Plus the proper seasons add a lot, there are 4 distinct maps instead of 1, gives a lot of variety and personality to the game.
To be fair to FH5 the Rally Adventure map is pretty damn good, but I would rate Fortune Island slightly higher. Couldn’t care less about the Lego and Hot Wheels maps
Lego had some pretty good roads and races. There were some rallies that were particularly enjoyable, and it had the race track with the banked turns. Crashing through the Lego scenery was sort of fun; the sound of it was somehow very satisfying. I really hated seeing those Lego cars pop up on the main map, though. Made me unreasonably annoyed!
it's the winding, flowy roads with elevation changes and tight lanes. fh5 has wide, flat roads with no flow, just straight line, corner, straight line, corner and so on.
FH4 has always been my favorite, even from launch.
5's map should have been more like the rally expansion - as small as that one is, it's a lot of fun to drive around.
4's vibrant colors works SO WELL for the Lego expansion, which is charming and whimsical, and I love it. Both games are good. 4's map with 5's game mechanics would be *perfect* for me. YMMV. They're both great games with different strengths.
I loved horizon 4 team games like infection, king and flag. Just wish they kept it every week in the festive playlist so now i have to play it once a month. Also i love it when there where so many post for team games, it made it so much fun, now it is queit as a ghost.
My favourite back road was the king stretch of road that is on the left but goes to the top of the map then I pull into moretimers garden car park 😢
I’ve noticed how no one’s mentioned fh4 leaf blower car sounds recently is that because people are meat riding the game again 🤔
The video is talking about how people prefer the FH4 map to 5. Not the car sounds you melon. You’re the one making up stories in your head when we’re not even talking about it in the video 😂
@ does it matter look at all of what else I said to back up my claims be quiet I could care less you got TH-cam power brother 😂 doesn’t mean your not incorrect gtfooh and wake up to reality fh4s map isn’t even close to as detailed and immersive as 5s is if you enjoy playing a downgraded game on map that’s 50% of the size of 5s map so be it but don’t complain after you get bored again of it in 4 months I know how you people operate
It’s not about being correct or incorrect. Bro, take a step back and realise you’re being an idiot. In the video I said that in the comments of other videos, people have been saying that the map in 4 is better. I made a video showing why they said and agreeing with them. You are allowed to have a different opinion without talking shit. You can prefer FH5, nobody is stopping you but overly glazing the game and starting to talk shit because of it makes you look like an ape. You’re saying people are meat riding, but you’re doing the same thing but to a different game hahahaha
@@DUBSmb because I’m not sitting there trashing on the games map And just because it’s an opinion doesn’t mean it’s right sure the minority can lean towards fh4s map but are they correct about it being better? Probably not they captured real Mexican sky’s in fh5 they went all out with the Mexican aspect of the game and now people aren’t appreciating it enough when the game first came out everyone was hyped asf it was in Mexico and was happy while playing it same with fh4 then after a while people got bored of it that’s just how it is it’s not necessarily one maps better than the other map more or less it’s people played the game to much and got burnt out of the map it’s happened with both fh4 and 5 switches happen all the time people go from loving to hating to hating to loving again that’s just how it is 🤷♂️ both maps are fantastic if one’s boring that’s because you need the outside 😂
@@DUBSmb Great Britain is just as lame of a setting for a racing game as Mexico is
The 2 things I love doing in any game is exploring and testing the game's limits (glitching). So naturally I end up spending hours just trying to find out of bounds glitches and stuff you're not supposed to see.
FH4 seemed more forgiving in the way it would let you go out of bounds. Even though most of the edges are walled, there still are certain holes you can go trough and you can drive outside the walls in quite a lot of places before you get teleported. Also I had to appreciate all the scenery outside the map, like the islands off the beach, the Edinburgh bridges, the river beyond Glenfinnan Viaduct... It just gives me a purpose to try to explore these places.
FH5 had less walls but it was so easy to hit a teleport "wall", it just wasn't fun to explore around the outside areas. The lack of walls made it pretty hard to tell in what places were we allowed to drive or not, and the mechanic with losing grip just didn't quite work because a lot of the out of bound hills aren't even that steep. About the outside scenery I don't really have much to say. It seemed pretty bleak in comparison to FH4.
I'd say the only gripe I've had with FH4 is the way it renders the map. You fly high enough and parts of the map just stop rendering. FH5 still suffers from this but it's not as bad I'd say.
Never heard of anyone loving a game so much where you can drive out of the games boundaries. Amazing! Gaming is great in all ways, and sometimes not the most obvious ways. I used to do it on Total Drivin on the PS1 haha
wow, I have not seen this game in ages. How i miss those times with the lads playing this drifting around or drag racing. Everyone stopped playing forza after 2 weeks of fh5. What a disappointment that game was at launch.
4's map is so dang charming
What camera settings do you use (mainly FOV)?
Forza Horizon 4 is a beauty. Taking 2 minutes to get to the intro - gameplay. Awesome! Everytime I visit this game I pause for the music to loop and enjoy the title screen.
Thanks! I enjoy the Eliminator better here in FH4, too. More cars more details to the mode. Best introduction to my current day gaming.
It’s absurd that they got rid of beauty spots and meets.
I just love the UK over Mexico. You can't beat UK roads especially when you live in the UK, it feels like you're at home and thats why i will always love 4 over 5
Cough cough delusion
Pre bought 5 and was very excited... game launched and was on it like mad ... did everything and well it jest seemed weak! The tuning changed so much that I was making builds that didn't work compared to 4! Lost the motivation to play and well haven't played since about 6 months from launch! I started w FH3 n Australia and had alot of fun and then 4 just took me over and then it all changed w 5!!! 4 is my favorite but completely lost interest w 5th version! Being an ol dude the tuning was too much to get w limited game time!
Awesome intro and nice music
Alright, get ready for an essay.
FH4’s map is so much better in comparison to FH5, and the reason is because that the map in 4 is relatable. Even if you don’t live in Britain you still understand it, you still know a lot of how it feels, and it’s still fresh to you because it’s a different area with new things to see. FH5 doesn’t have that level of connectedness, as it’s just a vast, open landscape with one historical town, not even modern, it’s historical. There’s no people to see roaming around like in FH4, there’s just desert. You don’t see storefronts, you just see the depressing, red and tan sands of Mexico reminding you of why that may have been the worst possible choice for a car game. If anything, FH5 has always felt like an apocalypse game more than anything. The thing that makes FH4, and the games prior special, isn’t that there’s much to do, but rather the sense of immersion you get driving from place to place. You feel connected because you see those things every day, storefronts, cities, big mall squares with lots to do. Everything in 4 feels like daily life but with differences slight enough to make them seem apparent to you that it’s fresh. It’s away from home but still that same grounded feeling of being somewhere that you fundamentally understand. FH5? None of that. It seems like you’re on a trip with a tour guide and you can’t find the guide, so you just decided to live in Mexico.
Also, the reason why people complained about 4’s map is it wasn’t Japan. Everyone wanted Japan for whatever reason even though Britain is just fine
I still play more 4 than I do 5. They really dropped the ball on some stuff in 5 that really just made it hard for me to WANT to play 5. Its fun, sure. Just think 4 was a little better not only at launch but even arguably now that 5 is working on being sunset, its not better enough for me to talk too nicely about it. Ive been disappointed so many times.
Not everyone just those who have the attention span of a child and they feel like they need a city every corner
FH4 had greater density of "stuff" but! the magic was the terrain worked with it so that you weren't looking at it all all at the same time, and transition from area to area feels pretty seamless.. I know FH5 is more sparse, and I know they were going for a more flat environment, but I think the combination of those two things and then throw in a number of jarring terrain changes from one section to the next, all worked against it. FH5 is good, but it's not **welcoming**.
Plus they removed so much stuff on 5, have no reason to even play online because they removed ranked
FH4 is Playground’s Magnum Opus…
I’d say fh3 IMO
After playing fh5 for 3 years, I’m bored, so gone back to fh4… and loving it 👌
had fh4 on game pass not realising it would be cut off completely from the store. Probably my favourite game of all time and i have no idea how i can play it again.
🏴☠🏴☠🏴☠
Someone Said game pass users got a code. I cant find my one tho
Got a feeling the very old Engine held back fh5. Got Big expectations for 6 with a whole new engine
I wish they would add RTX. Not that it needs it though. ^____^
PS: giving cars in FH5 is the best new feature for me.
Living in the North East of England, this map will always be my favourite out of all the Horizon series. I live an hour away from Bamburgh and I’m always in Edinburgh for work and the detail in this game is stunning and does really compare to the real thing. FH5 is bloody boring and bland and I’ll honestly not go back to it when FH6 comes out but I’m really enjoying playing FH4 at the moment
For sure, FH5 has some good things in it like the smoke from the tyres, decent car sounds, like DUBS says the colour is really good but it’s just a bit shit unfortunately and doesn’t offer the game play that FH4 offers.
Simple things like the playground games, the rail yard and the mud kickers in FH4 absolutely pisses all over FH5’s offerings, there’s just nothing in FH5 that really makes you want to play it
Looking forward to FH6, just hope they combine some of the good parts from both and make something brilliant as FH5 is not a patch on FH4, 7 years old and it’s still something special
FH4 map had so much character, unlike mexico which couldve been good but the devs messed it up
Best Ferrari ever on the thumbnail
I'm inclined to agree. It's my fav V12 for sure
@@DUBSmb my favourite modern Ferrari, F12 looks better than 812 and V12 Cilindri
😔 if only we could of got all of the cars from 5 into 4
I finished forza horizon 5 in less than 2 days, forza horizon 4 felt unfinished until years later
You did not finish fh5 is 2 days, it’s literally impossible. Stop capping. Also there’s so much live content in the game, you can’t finish multiplayer games.
@DUBSmb i got to hall of fame and got pretty much every car i want and fast travel imo thats endgame(edit) of course full % no way
Must be fun to create story’s in your head and live by it seems that’s all people can do nowadays because rarely is the truth ever spoken in these videos
We can only hope they put in effort for fh6 like they did in 4
And like they did in Horizon 2, so it gives hope for the even numbers.
I play 4 because they never figured out online for 5 lmao
And that’s why the nxt FH6 is going to be based in a City 🤔🤔 Tokyo Japan!
Because u can't make any money in forzax5 in taking photos,etc everything is accolade points
cam on ingerlund score some fackin goals 🥁🥁🥁
Tell me something your mom doesn't know
I never played FH5, did the 4 and love it. Since FH5 trailer I never like the locations and the map compared to the 4.
Basically the same appeal as with Horizon 2 over 3.
I live in Texas, and I enjoy FH5 more because it's honestly similar to roads I'm familiar with. Ya'll complain about it being "open" and "flat." You've clearly never seen farmland or a desert that stretches as far as the eye can see. That's fine. It's human nature to gravitate to things you're familiar with. As someone who's lived in the American Southwest most of their life, I enjoy FH5 far more than FH4. FH4 is good too, but you can keep the Winter map to yourself; it's funny to hear people complain that "Winter" in Mexico isn't very different from the other seasons, that's because it isn't. News flash, it almost never snows in Mexico, that's what happens when you're closer to the equator. The Horizon series excels at representing different locales and the car cultures that thrive there, and from that viewpoint, FH5 was a success. We're the lucky ones who get to enjoy them for what they are while driving like feckless idiots. If this were real Mexico, I'm sure I'd be on a Cartel hitlist by now for the number of families I've impacted when I smash into their car hitting the apex of a blind corner. Be safe out there, and remember that it's not the speed that will kill you, it's the sudden stop.
I don't disagree that FH5's map isn't accurate. I just don't think that Mexico was a good setting for the game. They went from being a game about a music festival with sick cars to now a learning about culture and cars added in. Just feels a bit out of place I dunno.
@@DUBSmb funny you say that because Mexico and Japan was the 2 most requested places for fh5 to take place And now people don’t like it is that because it’s exactly like Mexico and it’s not as fun as they thought “oh there’s sand everywhere” fkn welcome to Mexico 😂
12:02 do you know what else is MASSIVE??????????
yea, your forhead
@ lmao
@@piconnezer stop commenting that
It's annoying 🙏
The fh5 map is the biggest but it feels the smallest. Because It's empty. The driving experience is: empty fields, more empty fields, oh it's the fing pyramids again, somehow, for the 10000th time... great... It just makes the landmarks stand out by how boring it is and thus makes it seem smaller. Whereas I had 100x more hours in fh4 and somehow it never felt boring. I may have drove trough the same patch of woods 100 times and not noticed.
Empty no more empty than your brain because once you exit the city and festival’s fh4 is empty as well know what you’re talking about before you speak it because you sound mindless
I'm glad that I bought the game
What an intro !
Don't get me wrong I love fh5 and all the new additions that come with it but I couldn't agree more the fh4 map is just better in every way possible, it's honestly a shame and I really hope playground games can redeem themselves with fh6
me also always loved this over 5
Both maps have their flaws, in my opinion. Horizon 4s map is more pretty and designed better, but it was barely diverse. Horizon 5s map is full of diversity, (grasslands, farmland, forests, jungles, mountains, beaches, deserts, canyons, sand dunes, swamps, and has more elevation, but the issue is the most diverse and most elevated areas are around the outermost parts of the map, whereas the innermost part, which is most of the map, is flat and empty.
And when it comes to the road variety. The roads in Horizon 4 were all pretty straight, with barely any tight turns, and Horizon 5 is a HUGE step up, and has the best roads in a Horizon game, in my opinion, especially with the Rally Adventure DLC, which many people agree that it has one of if not the best roads in all of Horizon.
Such a great game
actual seasons
It’s not as flat as fh5. Fh4s map as more elevation than 5.
imagine a map of ireland in a forza game AHAHAHAH the greens would make sure there be only a few roads and 1000s of bus and bike lanes LMFAO
yea all 1 lane roads absolutely riddled with potholes and then in the City you actually can't drive the car anywhere cause you'll be stuck behind the busses
@@DUBSmb Dublin a sick joke now to drive in fffffffffff sad
My biggest gripe with FH5 is that it feels so flat and boriiiiing, so fucking boring. Yeah, I'm a bit biased cause I've played it for three years, but it feels like they designed the entire map solely for the Eliminator. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the game mode, but it shouldn't feel like it has so much influence on the map itself. I want cities, and towns, and little details. FH4 didn't have this, but I want more NPC car variety, like old beaters or dirty trucks or SOMETHING. Idk how they managed to make Mexico of all places feel dead.
What do you mean Mexico is dead asf 🤣🤣🤣
The sense of adventure the way it looked between seasons getting all the cars. for a fun driving arcade like experience I find myself coming back again and again one more blast around beautiful scenery and finding landmarks . It's up there with Mario cart 8 in fun terms as for Forza horizon 5 just wasn't as enjoyable pretty lame overall boring experience
Had the feeling with 4 forza horizon 5s giant lush rainforest is such a Beautiful scenery like I can’t think of a place that’s more beautiful with landmarks and exploration than Mexico oh wait it seems some foolish minded individuals think boring asf Great Britain its more pretty than fkn Mexico yeah right at this point that’s how I know you people are saying things just to say it because rarely anyone on this planet is gonna say Great Britain’s more pretty and fun to explore and take in scenery than Mexico like let’s just be real here for a second and escape the delusional fantasy y’all are living in 😂
i’ll be honest, i prefer the fh5 map.
I don't. FH5 is a great game and the badlands map has some very underrated roads. Drive the mountain in Mexico and quit complaining.
God I wish I could've bought this on PC but I didn't have the money... I still have it on console but it's such a botched, shitty experience compared to PC...
just looked it up and a lot of digital codes are selling for like $10 USD, gonna have to cop it tbh
That’s ok you can still get the much superior forza horizon 5
The maps has always been weak in the horizon games, its crazy how a much smaller team like kunos will make a so much better and more accurate map in assetto corsa evo. It will be like 15 times bigger than fh5 map. And will still have more life to it.
FH5 map is boring. No big cities, just sand and cactus and little towns. I have gone back to FH4 for some variety.
Welcome to Mexico have you considered growing a brain and opening up your eyeballs in your head because guess what Mexico is filled with sand and cacti not just that giant lush rain forests as well but people don’t include those parts of the map because they haven’t took the time to explore before complaining about sand
I don't understand why people stopped playing forza horizon 4 after 5 released , 5 is not an improvement for me , rather an alternative
Same for me. I play both, but I still play a far higher amount of 4 than 5.
I like driving on the right side of the road.
rally adventure on horizon 5 eats horizon 4 map, and its a good thing,.. the director of horizon 5 left the studio and people who worked on expansions are now in control of the series.
Yup, Torben Ellert (who has *Publicly decried* FH4/5, in Particular the "FOMO Chore Chart" (Playlist) and "the Eliminator" as the *Wrong Direction* for Horizon!) is in Charge now. Expect a BIG change with FH6.
I prefer Horizon 5 map over 4, but my favorite of all time is Horizon 2.
Forza Horizon 4 is my favorite game still miss it 😭😭😭😭
imo fh5 has a better map
I think you might be in the very small minority that thinks that
It 100% does I get people are bored of fh5 right now and are returning to 4 so that gives them the feeling the maps better because they ain’t seen it in a while like seriously we live in delusion 😂
bruh its all just nostalgia
in a few years we will complain about fh6 and appreciate fh5 a lot more than rn
Not a chance
100% what’s gonna happen you know how I know? Because same thing happened with 4 literally and I remember this whole people was not happy about the map and Great Britain at all but now all the sudden they are yeah definitely what’s gonna happen with 5 after 6 comes out I can already see the video titles now. “We were to hard on fh5s map” “did fh5 have the best map in the series?” Why “ fh5 had the best map” like you can’t even make this up this is how people are 😂
Naw fh4 map and game is worse than fh5
I can think of at least some reasons
1) you're all racist, believe or not this is a reason I've seen on x being Mexican when any anglo ask about it
2) you have never seen or being on México and the image of Mexico the game gives us is like Hollywood movies they only missed the sepia filter
3) it is not Nihon, since forza 3 it's been asked to have a game in Nihon, something nearly impossible because the Nihon government wants to clean their illegal street racing image.
4) it's a lazy developed game, this being the main reason, Turn 10 only wanted to accomplish the calendar launch they were being asked, for that reason the game feels empty they missed by so far representing Mexican beauty
Bro started his statements with "you're all racists" hahahahaha. FH started with being a big EDM music festival with cool cars. It's turned into a here's a car game but you have to drive it in a place with no car culture and instead you have to learn about that culture. I don't care about Mexican culture. Just as (since I'm from Ireland) I wouldn't care less about Irish culture in a FH game. We all want sick cars with lots of customization and great music on amazing roads. That's core FH. You can see how since they got rid of "Rob Da Bank" after FH2 people hated the songs in the game and the purpose of the game shifted.
Mexican is not a race, and Mexico is actually pretty racist. Ask a Castilian about the Indios, and vice-veesa. It's an important distinction to them.
So they really haven't a leg to stand on in that regard. Not that it will stop them, or anybody else, from chucking the term about whenever they think it will score them some points.