L'Hospital's Rule - Indeterminate Powers

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  • @travisfiedler4416
    @travisfiedler4416 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    infinity is not a number. if you treat it like a number, you are missing something conceptually

    • @osq6415
      @osq6415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes sir!

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    @mtech1020 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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      @nood1le 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    @ElmoPansy 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AceAites cause it is a limit... the value is getting close to 1 , but not necessarily equal.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AceAites so when you raise that number to a large power, many things can happen.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AirJordanXVIII actually, both spellings are common

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @applesnnbananas 1^infinity only.

  • @Syruscleat
    @Syruscleat 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, great demonstration, PJMT.

  • @1603stanley
    @1603stanley 13 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @msgabe112
    @msgabe112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic tutorial, PatrickJMT. Thank you for going step by step.

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  • @WretchedM
    @WretchedM 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, I admire your humility.

  • @ru7547
    @ru7547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's 2021 and your video is still useful. thank u sir

  • @chiconium
    @chiconium 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    man......... thanks alot.............. it helped me... coz ur examples are the same as my teacher's example which i didn't understand.........
    it really amazed me the way u teach..
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  • @Firebolt773
    @Firebolt773 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you SO much for making these videos!!!!!! I'm at a large university and my teacher's office hours are ALWAYS busy so I can't get as much help as I would want!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @IGNsucks bernoulli rocks (which one though). those poor brothers fought. one day, when you all get rich, you can pay me to do some math research but you all get all the credit.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @yoguely thanks!

  • @dozentcare
    @dozentcare 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    u r just straight up amazing! if i get through my college Cal 1 class because of u i'm gonna donate to ur website

  • @paradiseheaven
    @paradiseheaven 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i actually have atest on this tomorrow and i'm watching this vid to help me haha. thx so much!!! it's a great refresher and helper

  • @coldfuse45
    @coldfuse45 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU!!!! My prof did a horrible job of explaining that, but you made it very clear.

  • @CameronCope
    @CameronCope 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you - i'm studying for an analysis exam and this was very clear. I appreciate the upload!

    • @kmed-7044
      @kmed-7044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you did well:))

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank ya mr. syrus

  • @chris2kgreat
    @chris2kgreat 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    i worked it out slightly differently but I'm not sure if its right but here it is, after i reached
    ln(e^x + x) / x
    i worked out the brackets and got:
    lne^x + lnx / x
    i then used the property of logs and brought down the x in lne^x:
    xlne + lnx / x
    since we know that lne=1, we get:
    LIM x - infinity = x + lnx / x = infinity over infinity

  • @supermadcrazy
    @supermadcrazy 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey thanks pattric u er really very great in teaching,this vidio of urs is like a magic wand which make solving limits easy.thanks a lot

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love l'hospital!

  • @Arolbreaker
    @Arolbreaker 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AirJordanXVIII I know this is four months old, but the reason that it's spelled in two different ways is because the french word Hospital was changed to Hôpital for faster pronounciation. Most words with an S that jus slowed down the pronounciation of the word had their S removed and a "circumflex" accent was added to the vowel closest to the S.
    Hospital ----> L'Hospital
    Hôpital-----> L'Hôpital
    Hostel
    Hôtel

  • @dvary89
    @dvary89 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @hifhif123 take for example the limit of: (1+1/n)^n as n goes to infinity.
    this limit is a case of 1 raised to infinity,but the answer is actually the number e.
    this is one of the various definitions of e.

  • @chris2kgreat
    @chris2kgreat 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    we now use l'hopital rule and get:
    1 + 1/x / 1 = 1 + 1/x (only one "1" is over x)
    i then worked out the fraction and get:
    x + 1 / x ( both x and 1 is over x )
    this still gives infinity over infinity so i use the rule again
    1 / 1 = 1
    therefore i still get the answer but i'm not sure if its right. can you please check Patrick

  • @scatter47
    @scatter47 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    5/x where x approach 0 is undefined right? Since right side of the limit is positive infinity and the left side of the limit is negative infinity.

  • @mgironda
    @mgironda 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanations, perfect in case my APC kids are tired of listening to me =] thanks!

  • @dapoochiman
    @dapoochiman 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    whoa that's crazy!
    what do you guys do instead of L'hop??

  • @Shkencetari
    @Shkencetari 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very helpful.

  • @12221bebe
    @12221bebe 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG this video is AWESOME! Thank you

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am your teacher now! send me your tuition! i will print out a nice diploma from me!

  • @dmd70621
    @dmd70621 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @patrickJMT yeah im doin a research thing on him right now for my ap calc class, he studied under johann bernoulli and had his own findings as well. when this method was learned by others, it was believed that l'hopital had come up with it which was not l'hopital's intention, bernoulli was only a little upset with this. i guess there's reason to believe he either came up with it himself, or bernoulli did, or they both found it together lol, but later l'hopital had paid bernoulli off for credit

  • @MageMager-mm9ie
    @MageMager-mm9ie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the letters are are they missing info or is it an equations that has a background and what is an on on the calculator

  • @skinnycarrotchan
    @skinnycarrotchan 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @akmcferran its supposed to be as it x approaches 0 then as x gets smaller 5/x goes to infinity

  • @BlahLab
    @BlahLab 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u! i was so lost on this stuff. hopefully i'll pass that quiz tmrw

  • @sethyup
    @sethyup 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, that was a great explaination

  • @Bakugantsuvai1
    @Bakugantsuvai1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what is an indeterminate power anyway? Would LH's rule help me simplify a cubic minus a constant type problems where the x approaches infinity?

  • @SATORvii
    @SATORvii 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a number gets diveded by numbers betwin 0 and 1 they get larger as the numbers they are devided by get closer to 0. and so closer to infinite as x->0 we say 5/x-> infinite. I hope this is helpfull

  • @bearrrr5846
    @bearrrr5846 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    definitely helped me out! :)

  • @Kevin93939
    @Kevin93939 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the second example, (5/x)(ln(cos3x)), don't you have to divide by (5/x)? So wouldn't it be [xln(cos3x)]/(5) ?

  • @ewaschenko
    @ewaschenko 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You ! Your explanation is amazing compared to my Prof

  • @tao072002
    @tao072002 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    you saved me, love from a uoft student

  • @x0chick
    @x0chick 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your a great teacher!!! =D

  • @MageMager-mm9ie
    @MageMager-mm9ie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It be fantastic if you could define the algorithm it's genetic coding it's structure it's placement. What's its value. It has an action I think you have to calibrate your calc30 to recognize your commands to understand the formula

  • @alaajassar
    @alaajassar 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU ARE GREAT

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 ปีที่แล้ว

    i did that in calculus 0

  • @Epeetastic
    @Epeetastic 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    @shoaib21soccer
    He took the negative from the Sin, so that way he had -15, so that it was just sin/cos to give him tangent. rather than -sin.

  • @MalakWafa
    @MalakWafa 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this the way for all tricky questions?

  • @n1g3l25
    @n1g3l25 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    you mean something like x^3-1 as x approaches infinity?
    you wouldn't need to use LH rule on that. just solve it normally.
    Indeterminate powers are powers that involve variables
    like 3^x-1 as x approaches infinity

  • @MageMager-mm9ie
    @MageMager-mm9ie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or it already understands that's why it recorded interderminate. I looked it up and it's like having 2 structures or 2 weights of measurement and not understanding what to do with it what number in a contaminate container yard stands for hazardous or fuel in short ton measurements

  • @pyarexxx
    @pyarexxx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    great videos.thanks

  • @Arycke
    @Arycke 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, this is what I learned in high school, at least for the last two years of it.

  • @ICOD73
    @ICOD73 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about (∞+∞) and (-∞-∞)? Is it indeterminate too?

  • @SamNecktie
    @SamNecktie 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh how I wish I found you earlier in the semester

  • @mistersirisaacnewton
    @mistersirisaacnewton 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @tifrogers44 5 is a constant, when you take a limit of a constant, it equals the constant

  • @spectralblue
    @spectralblue 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's pronounced lawn for ln! do you spell out log or do you just say log?

  • @SBUDEX
    @SBUDEX 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    uhmm ThanK You very much 4 this.. but y do we use e^(0)? i mean y use e??

  • @goaram
    @goaram 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    love Barcelona!

  • @Manole52
    @Manole52 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you not using the quotient rule in these equations? If the rule is followed (ln(e^x+x))/(x) should not equal (e^x+1)/(e^x+x).

  • @WhatElseExceptNature
    @WhatElseExceptNature 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much

  • @sushmad6051
    @sushmad6051 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @supermadcrazy haahahah! glad i can help

  • @santiagoramirezacosta3799
    @santiagoramirezacosta3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOUUUUU

  • @ElifArslan-l9g
    @ElifArslan-l9g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @EpicNostra
    @EpicNostra 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is infinity^0=1 let say a trillion a gazillion in power 0 makes 1 right ?

  • @oneinabillion654
    @oneinabillion654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is ln(infinity) = infinity? I thought it levels off?

  • @leonardohernandez9804
    @leonardohernandez9804 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1/cos3x = tan 3x? Isn't sec 3x? What am I missing here.

    • @leonardohernandez9804
      @leonardohernandez9804 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nevermind. figured it out. - sin 3x/ cos 3x = - tan 3x.

  • @Rocking3anu
    @Rocking3anu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello!!!! Thank you...no words ! love you ! bye !

  • @mrproxj
    @mrproxj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi PatrickJMT, please upgrade your microphones, the volume is a little bit low. Thanks.

  • @shogundapker
    @shogundapker 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't speak spanish extremely well, but a rough translation is:
    The truth is that the explanation was very well. And it is in english...???...but math doesn't have a set language!
    Did I translate that right? :O

  • @AceAites
    @AceAites 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is 1^infinity indeterminate ? I thought that it would just be 1x1x1....=1. Can you explain that please ? :) Thanks. :D

  • @sfrancisco18
    @sfrancisco18 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you write y as e^ln(y)?

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @IGNsucks and he really did not steal it, he paid for it!

  • @mandlacalvin6869
    @mandlacalvin6869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!! SIR

  • @khidrrr
    @khidrrr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow... thanks!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahhh, nothing like some good ole fashion racism.

  • @AFIGHTCHANNEL
    @AFIGHTCHANNEL 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm, I understood some of those words.

  • @jayakumarkumar9188
    @jayakumarkumar9188 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    THERE IS ALSO ANOYHER WAY-WITHOUT USING THE LOPITALS RULE,IT IS BY USING THE FORMULA.....e^limx-->0 or whatever of {f(x)-1}g(x)

  • @michaelderaiche1609
    @michaelderaiche1609 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    If infinity isnt a number than why is (infinity + infinity) = to infinity. How can you add an idea but you can't multiply an idea?

  • @n1g3l25
    @n1g3l25 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    definitely

  • @RadoAller
    @RadoAller 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of using L'Hopital's Rule could i say that becuz it's ln|infinity| so it's 1....cuz that's when ln is infinity?????

  • @freemkulima
    @freemkulima 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought 1/0 is undefined. How then does 5/0 equal to infinity?

  • @michaelbarton7835
    @michaelbarton7835 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "L'Hospital's" lol, nice

    • @andranik70
      @andranik70 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Discovered by Bernoulli

    • @emmanuelwinston8817
      @emmanuelwinston8817 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is the more older spelling of this rule.
      Considering the fact that this video is more than 8 yrs old we can cut him some slack on this one.

  • @MultiMoe91
    @MultiMoe91 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesomastic.

  • @maccamracecar
    @maccamracecar 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Angelgrrl04 My professor said it has many spellings.

  • @minhtran3988
    @minhtran3988 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone explain how the Lim y = Lim e^ln(y)
    x→∞ x→∞

    • @abdirahmanali7230
      @abdirahmanali7230 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Minh Tran e and ln cancel each other. Its one of the log properties.

  • @RadoAller
    @RadoAller 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry i meant when ln|infinity| it's 0 ....nt 1

  • @vishadmehta5952
    @vishadmehta5952 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    isn't infinity/infinity= 1 ?????

  • @YaadataKalid
    @YaadataKalid 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    finna pass my calc final

  • @maccamracecar
    @maccamracecar 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @maccamracecar nvm I see my fault.

  • @doncprinc
    @doncprinc 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    la verdad q muy bien explicado.y eso q esta en ingles je je je pero las matematicas no tienen idioma juaz!!!baez!

  • @ezalcinoryahoocom
    @ezalcinoryahoocom 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have to learn all of this by tomorrow :(

  • @MohannadGoesRawr
    @MohannadGoesRawr 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He did the algebra first before plugging in the limit.

  • @hassanz96
    @hassanz96 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    exellente