2:21 when the voice is so good you felt disrespectful to speak when she sings. also about the accidental face reveal thing, there's only 1 incident that I know of and even that one is on the early days of Vtubing(like at least 5 years ago) so i guess they perfected the program to make sure they separate real live video and motion capture so no mishaps would happen.
Susie sounds like a 4kids name dub so I would avoid that lol Anyway the song Suisei sung is actually from her new album Spectre which she also performed on her latest concert "Shout in Crisis". There's a mini preview of the concert that I highly recommend to view either in private or public just to see how amazing she is on stage.
She's using special motion tracking suit with a camera that captures her facial expressions, so it's not really a superimposed filter but a rigged 3d model that is moving via motion capture so there's absolutely no risk of her showing her face, because all we see is digital scene.
You got the pronunciation right with #1! She just had a live (paid) concert, but the first three songs are available for free as a preview on her channel (first half of the video is just concert entry stuff): th-cam.com/video/USmUfG_-Sn8/w-d-xo.html. This song was also played in that concert with a killer live band, but it's part of the paid portion.
The person is not wearing green suit for that. It's prolly done by MOTION CAPTURE + AR (Augmented Reality, something like VR, Virtual reality). COVER CORP in which she is affiliated; is focusing in developing AR. They have few subsidiarity company like HOLOLIVE which is where Suisei is from; a VTuber group. Hope this enlighten a bit about Suisei, Hololive or VTuber 😁
Thanks for checking out Suisei again. (Number one on the pronunciation was correct.) Michizure was a strong song choice and the TFT version was excellent. She and Ayase did a great job with it. Also yeah Hololive does motion capture for their avatars. There is a lot of great music there beyond just the TFT appearances with lots of fantastic songs and MVs like GHOST. Even beyond just Suisei, Hololive has a lot of talent. Would be great to see members like Watame, Okayu, Towa, etc get a look as well. Would highly recommend Watame's "My Song", also recommend Okayu's "dokuhai swallow", and Towa's "FACT" personally, but these are people making a lot of music and people like Watame and Okayu have some wide types of sounds. If people just stop at Suisei they're absolutely missing out in a similar way to if they had never clicked on Suisei's TFT apperance to begin with.
I definitely agree with these recommendations! There are many incredible singers in Hololive and this is just scratching the surface of the rabbithole.
This is made with real time motion caprture: th-cam.com/users/shortsWvLDlw2fz5k Also, for other je=azzy music, singed by Suisei, I recommend the cover she made years ago, Saga Jihen form anime Zombielande Saga: th-cam.com/video/-wNSFmqhQsU/w-d-xo.html
Technically #3 (the Google one) is the correct one. In Japanese the e sound is pronounced like eh. When e syllables (like se) are followed by i, instead of ei(eh-i), it's just a longer e (eh). But since we aren't speaking Japanese here, #1 is also completely fine. It's actually easier to understand for those who don't know Japanese.
Hey Paul, good reaction. The google pronunciation of Suisei is the most correct because it's said with a Japanese "accent" by a computer meant to get every subtle detail right, but your #1 pronunciation is 99% correct and completely normal. It's usually how I explain to English speakers how to say her name: "swee-say".
Sue-ih-say is how you'd pronounce it. As for the avatar, it's live mocap, she's in a mocap suit (which are typically black with infrared sensor markers) and a face tracking rig or camera, the tech is also used for live concerts so there's almost no lag or drift between her and her model.
i liked this appearance even more than stellar stellar. ayase makes a lovely song. will you check more girls from hololive? if so i recommend watame and her original called my song.
As i know Hololive (the group that Suisei in) use motion capture suit in earlier days and camera to capture the facial expression . However, Sony has launched the Mocopi, the lighter sensor that can strap on clothes for motion capture.
Suisei definitely not using mocopi here, if you want an example of it try recent Nenechi stream with it. Most probably she's using the usual Hololive setup as the tracking is pretty much the same.
Outside of some tests, I don't think hololive uses it as all their tech is inhouse cover corp stuff. Though it because it's a Sony channel (and assuming a Sony studio) they might be using something developed by them.
I don't think the tech is that there is a person there and its getting replaced real time, its just them putting on a tracking suit and facial recognition capturing their face which is all rendered together to make it look like that, so in reality its her there with everyone in the room and just her shot is replaced by the avatar post edit.
To clarify it's not quite like a filter where it can fail and show the real person behind it, this in particular looks more like motion capture that's done for movies and video games where the movement data is put onto a virtual character in post But generally, vtuber software allows you to use a camera to track your movements and map them onto the 3d or 2d virtual character on a greenscreen in real-time, that you can then chroma-key onto whatever you're doing. The real camera is never output to the screen at all, it's just used to create the movement so there's no chance of accidental face reveals!
Looks like it's better than what mocopi is capable of. Yeah, if you watch her hands in the video you can see her fingers curl, mocopi isn't capable of any sort of hand tracking
@@siekensou77 not according to oga, nene, milky queen and the other vtubers who have been trying it out. You can see it in their streams. You get a choice of of either open or fist projection.
if you enjoyed suisei, i have a few other vsingers i would like to recommend. this should be the same few i recommended on the previous video: Resonance by VWP Rise (2022 version) by Vesperbell Slowly by Asu Goro Goro Grow Grow by Kanade Mimi Shiden Issen (紫電一閃) by Asano Ruri
the facial movements are tracked by a software through a camera and then the 3d movements are registered by mocapped sensors on her. no suit or anything.
1. Number 1 and number 3 pronunciation are the same. Just copy what Google Translate says when in doubt. 2. No filter. They use motion tracking to animate 3D model. 3. No avatar being generated live.
Pronouniation 1 and 3 are correct, I think 3 is most correct. It's definately not number 2. As to your Suisei/Ado comment, while she hasn't oficiially performed with Ado, there is a clip of her singing an Ado song during one of her karaoke streams. However, there is another Vtuber named Murasaki Shion that did do an offical cover of Ado's "Odo" and it's really good.
So they have a suit for 3d, it's not green but more like grey and has sensors to detect the movement. The tracking is good enough to detect and show a front flip/handspring on a model. Suisei also had throat surgery back in Oct or November and couldn't really talk for over a month. Last, why do you keep insulting her by saying she sounds like an anime opening? It comes across as saying she's not good enough to have an album or success outside of a good anime carrying her songs.
I don't think he meant it as an insult. After all, anime tend to open with songs that hype the viewer up. It's even pretty common amongst anime fans to sit through openings and endings of shows just because the music is that good. I could see Michizure used in an opening simply for the fact that it's a really uplifting piece.
The first pronunciation is the right one. With regards to Ado, many have commented that her voice sounds like her, especially in terms of the texture to some respects, even joking the possibility of them being one person. Ado has more growl to her singing style compared to Suisei.
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2:35 This was played with a LIVE band during her 2nd Sololive Shout In Crisis last Jan 28! It was incredible!
I was looking for this comment lol
2:21 when the voice is so good you felt disrespectful to speak when she sings.
also about the accidental face reveal thing, there's only 1 incident that I know of and even that one is on the early days of Vtubing(like at least 5 years ago) so i guess they perfected the program to make sure they separate real live video and motion capture so no mishaps would happen.
Susie sounds like a 4kids name dub so I would avoid that lol
Anyway the song Suisei sung is actually from her new album Spectre which she also performed on her latest concert "Shout in Crisis". There's a mini preview of the concert that I highly recommend to view either in private or public just to see how amazing she is on stage.
She's using special motion tracking suit with a camera that captures her facial expressions, so it's not really a superimposed filter but a rigged 3d model that is moving via motion capture so there's absolutely no risk of her showing her face, because all we see is digital scene.
You got the pronunciation right with #1!
She just had a live (paid) concert, but the first three songs are available for free as a preview on her channel (first half of the video is just concert entry stuff): th-cam.com/video/USmUfG_-Sn8/w-d-xo.html. This song was also played in that concert with a killer live band, but it's part of the paid portion.
The person is not wearing green suit for that. It's prolly done by MOTION CAPTURE + AR (Augmented Reality, something like VR, Virtual reality).
COVER CORP in which she is affiliated; is focusing in developing AR.
They have few subsidiarity company like HOLOLIVE which is where Suisei is from; a VTuber group.
Hope this enlighten a bit about Suisei, Hololive or VTuber 😁
Since this is a Sony project, they are probably using Sony's mocopi for the capture.
Thanks for checking out Suisei again. (Number one on the pronunciation was correct.)
Michizure was a strong song choice and the TFT version was excellent. She and Ayase did a great job with it. Also yeah Hololive does motion capture for their avatars.
There is a lot of great music there beyond just the TFT appearances with lots of fantastic songs and MVs like GHOST. Even beyond just Suisei, Hololive has a lot of talent. Would be great to see members like Watame, Okayu, Towa, etc get a look as well. Would highly recommend Watame's "My Song", also recommend Okayu's "dokuhai swallow", and Towa's "FACT" personally, but these are people making a lot of music and people like Watame and Okayu have some wide types of sounds. If people just stop at Suisei they're absolutely missing out in a similar way to if they had never clicked on Suisei's TFT apperance to begin with.
I definitely agree with these recommendations! There are many incredible singers in Hololive and this is just scratching the surface of the rabbithole.
Thanks for recommending Watame and Okayu. They're my fav holosinger!
This is made with real time motion caprture:
th-cam.com/users/shortsWvLDlw2fz5k
Also, for other je=azzy music, singed by Suisei, I recommend the cover she made years ago, Saga Jihen form anime Zombielande Saga:
th-cam.com/video/-wNSFmqhQsU/w-d-xo.html
Technically #3 (the Google one) is the correct one. In Japanese the e sound is pronounced like eh. When e syllables (like se) are followed by i, instead of ei(eh-i), it's just a longer e (eh).
But since we aren't speaking Japanese here, #1 is also completely fine. It's actually easier to understand for those who don't know Japanese.
Hey Paul, good reaction. The google pronunciation of Suisei is the most correct because it's said with a Japanese "accent" by a computer meant to get every subtle detail right, but your #1 pronunciation is 99% correct and completely normal. It's usually how I explain to English speakers how to say her name: "swee-say".
Sue-ih-say is how you'd pronounce it. As for the avatar, it's live mocap, she's in a mocap suit (which are typically black with infrared sensor markers) and a face tracking rig or camera, the tech is also used for live concerts so there's almost no lag or drift between her and her model.
I think it's worth checking out the original Stellar Stellar just because the instrumentals are so different. Ghost is another great song of hers
talking about ado and suisei, there is a fanmade mv : 《Fanmade》ウタカタララバイ Ado X 星街すいせい【If they sing together】 , which is really good.
name #1 , suisei - Swee-say
i liked this appearance even more than stellar stellar. ayase makes a lovely song.
will you check more girls from hololive? if so i recommend watame and her original called my song.
I recommend to check out *Moona Hoshinova* and her 2nd original song High Tide It's *beautiful*
That song is super fire. The MV is so good almost every frame makes a great wallpaper.
You may try see one of her introduction speech in stream, some clips too, to hear how she pronounced her name
As i know Hololive (the group that Suisei in) use motion capture suit in earlier days and camera to capture the facial expression . However, Sony has launched the Mocopi, the lighter sensor that can strap on clothes for motion capture.
Suisei definitely not using mocopi here, if you want an example of it try recent Nenechi stream with it. Most probably she's using the usual Hololive setup as the tracking is pretty much the same.
Outside of some tests, I don't think hololive uses it as all their tech is inhouse cover corp stuff. Though it because it's a Sony channel (and assuming a Sony studio) they might be using something developed by them.
Bro, check out Suisei's channel. She did a Live Concert recently and the first 30 mins of that Live is available to watch for free on her Channel.
I don't think the tech is that there is a person there and its getting replaced real time, its just them putting on a tracking suit and facial recognition capturing their face which is all rendered together to make it look like that, so in reality its her there with everyone in the room and just her shot is replaced by the avatar post edit.
you say her name correctly #1
Su-i-sei
To clarify it's not quite like a filter where it can fail and show the real person behind it, this in particular looks more like motion capture that's done for movies and video games where the movement data is put onto a virtual character in post
But generally, vtuber software allows you to use a camera to track your movements and map them onto the 3d or 2d virtual character on a greenscreen in real-time, that you can then chroma-key onto whatever you're doing. The real camera is never output to the screen at all, it's just used to create the movement so there's no chance of accidental face reveals!
for the motion capture, i believe she is using something recently released by sony called mocopi
nah, they use a proper mocap suit
Looks like it's better than what mocopi is capable of. Yeah, if you watch her hands in the video you can see her fingers curl, mocopi isn't capable of any sort of hand tracking
@@ericp631
mocopi does track fingers. i have seen comparison video of using mocopi with finger tracking.
@@siekensou77 not according to oga, nene, milky queen and the other vtubers who have been trying it out. You can see it in their streams. You get a choice of of either open or fist projection.
@@ericp631
ok i found it, you need a special finger tracking app if you want to track finger while using mocopi.. ..
if you enjoyed suisei, i have a few other vsingers i would like to recommend. this should be the same few i recommended on the previous video:
Resonance by VWP
Rise (2022 version) by Vesperbell
Slowly by Asu
Goro Goro Grow Grow by Kanade Mimi
Shiden Issen (紫電一閃) by Asano Ruri
the facial movements are tracked by a software through a camera and then the 3d movements are registered by mocapped sensors on her. no suit or anything.
1. Number 1 and number 3 pronunciation are the same. Just copy what Google Translate says when in doubt.
2. No filter. They use motion tracking to animate 3D model.
3. No avatar being generated live.
Pronouniation 1 and 3 are correct, I think 3 is most correct. It's definately not number 2.
As to your Suisei/Ado comment, while she hasn't oficiially performed with Ado, there is a clip of her singing an Ado song during one of her karaoke streams. However, there is another Vtuber named Murasaki Shion that did do an offical cover of Ado's "Odo" and it's really good.
Sui-sei
So they have a suit for 3d, it's not green but more like grey and has sensors to detect the movement. The tracking is good enough to detect and show a front flip/handspring on a model.
Suisei also had throat surgery back in Oct or November and couldn't really talk for over a month.
Last, why do you keep insulting her by saying she sounds like an anime opening? It comes across as saying she's not good enough to have an album or success outside of a good anime carrying her songs.
I don't think he meant it as an insult. After all, anime tend to open with songs that hype the viewer up. It's even pretty common amongst anime fans to sit through openings and endings of shows just because the music is that good.
I could see Michizure used in an opening simply for the fact that it's a really uplifting piece.
You might wanna check your automated subtitles and type them yourself. I see a few words here that might damage the impressions of this video.
just saw it, thanks! Wow, youtube automated subtitles did me dirty
The first pronunciation is the right one. With regards to Ado, many have commented that her voice sounds like her, especially in terms of the texture to some respects, even joking the possibility of them being one person. Ado has more growl to her singing style compared to Suisei.
ppl = suisei
japanese ppl = suise~
a noob = sussii
"Suisei" means comet in Japanese.
th-cam.com/video/O8Lq5Pv4Fzc/w-d-xo.html
You can refer to this for the technology used. Its sth similar to the one suisei used I suppose
sui-sei, because it's japanese 😅
It's pronounced Sui-sei
it's swee-say in english.
1
3 for sure
HoloLive has many great singers, including Suisei. I definitely hope you'll react to more of their songs.
pls not susie xD
did not see belgium, cant like, sorry =/
Thanks for checking out suisei again and number 1 pronunciation is correct in english while Google is correct for japanese pronunciation