Smart Fix: Model Y Performance Suspension Upgrade
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2023
- We did an install and review of the Tein Enduro + shocks on a Tesla Model Y Performance. The results are actually incredible.
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@Gjeebs the $1m dollar question: How do these TEIN compare in ride comfort to your Unplugged Performance Luxury Comfort Coilovers you installed on yours? Also who has the overall best comfort ride quality for the Y.....Redwood Ohlins Coilovers, Mountain Pass Performance Comfort Coilovers, Tein, or Unplugged Performance? That would also make an AWESOME clickworthy video " Battle of the Comfort Suspensions to find the KING of Comfort"
This should be the top comment. I am interested too!
Second that!
Me three!
@gjeebs your viewers/subscribers are gonna be hesitant to comment and ask questions if you don't give answers lol;) #wereallywannaknow iyho
I agree, comfort suspension battle challenge please!
I just installed these shocks on all 4 corners of my 22 LR. No joke, it makes the Y feel like a completely different car. 10 clicks in the front and 12 clicks in the rear. Great upgrade!
Have you compared it to the new comfort suspension on the newer Y’s? I rode in one and it was much more forgiving than my MYP.
@@howifixedit.9076 I’ve ridden in a Y with the comfort suspension and I’d say while it’s still much more forgiving and plush than the stock suspension from my 22 MY, it doesn’t ride as good as these Tein dampers. That said, I’d personally be more inclined to keep using the comfort suspension if mine already had it just to save the extra cost and install time, but if neither of those are a concern then I’d still do the upgrade.
Do you have a link to the ones you purchased?
@@LimpHz $660 for all 4 or each?
@@curtplum9 It’s $660 for all 4 plus a small shipping cost. One of the major advantages of ZEVcentric is their customer service is incredible. I had some issues with my kit originally and their owner, Rishie, personally got in contact with me over the course of a couple weeks to get everything resolved. It’s really a business segment of AutoRnD whose been around since the 90’s, so they’re a reputable company that stands behind the products they sell. RzEV might be a good company too - only thing is they reel you in with the “discounts” and completely rip you with shipping.
Only doing the rears is not a "Smart Fix" due to instability in a turn. By only softening the rear it works in a straight line but you're truly limited by the valving of the oem front dampers so be careful when hitting corners or off/on ramps.. We tested this last year when Tein worked with us to sample the product. We spent 6 months working on this and didn't release this option. It was in fact the first thing we tested because it seemed like it could be a great cheap solution. Please tread lightly. In Japan it is pronounced "TAYNE" for reference as well. You guys have done some things that will void your warranty on these shocks since the Tein dampers are 16 way adjustable. Their instructions indicate not to go past 16 clicks. With that said you guys went all the way open on the valve but should stop at 16 clicks. Secondly always close the valve, so stiffest setting, and then count backwards 16 clicks. Don't count from the "softest" end because not all shocks will have the same number of clicks. They will call them "dead clicks." Another thing to note is the very light torque spec on that 14mm nut. Hopefully no power tools were used on that top nut. I believe it's 27n-m or 18ft-lbs.
Truth. I tested these on the rear of my model y performance. Unsettling for sure. Didn't feel safe. Definitely need to do the fronts at the same time. As a package it works great for better ride quality.
I agree completely, the fronts should match the rears. Could totally see this being an issue if you are doing a hard turn with an elevation change
@@cwang9915 exactly
You should do a video explaining this further. This video influenced me to do this exact same thing.
@@Souliss24 did you install them yet? How did it work out?
Great video! He made that look easy to swap out the struts.
I DIY’d the 2023 LRMY suspension at $900 (shocks/dampeners/springs) on my wife’s 2021 LRMY 19” wheels with 28k miles. A very noticeable reduction in harshness and improvement in handling. Even my wife can feel the difference. Prior my 2021 P3 with aftermarket Titan forged 19” wheels with Michelin PS4S tires rode better than her MY, this is no longer the case after upgrading her suspension. Also gentlemen when you torque the lower bolt for the rear dampener, you should put weight on the rear suspension by either jacking up on the spring “cradle” or lowering the car to the ground with wheel on of course.
Agreed! Everything did get re-torqued later.
I see still you rocking the 500h! I have one myself and wow! it's like riding on a magic carpet!!! it's an awesome and comfortable daily driver! Love LEXUS quality, Ride etc.!
good video. Would suggest you use safe jacking techniques (jack stand or wheel/tire) should the car shift and fall on the person working on the car. Keep up the good content. Funny and informative.
yeah, when the installer went under the car with just a jack...i was like wow
What’s the details on the parts, model # or a link would be great
What a great hack! I have a 22 MY LR and while I feel it’s better than the 21 MY, it could still use some work. Replacing the rear seems easy enough to do, I may give it a try!
Thanks! 🍻
If you can find singles, I'd jump on it ASAP, however TEIN is only bringing full kits to the US (all 4 corners). Spares can be special ordered for purposes like premature failure replacement.
The great thing about those Tein's is they can go from luxury to performance with just a few clicks. So based on what part of town and what road you're driving on, or how you're feeling, you can adjust accordingly.
Assuming u wanna take apart your suspension to access the adjustment. Lol
@@BFArch0n Apparently, there's a remote adjustment kit you can buy. A central controller and electric adjusters on top of each shock.
Thanks to this video. I decided to order mines. I’m putting the setting on 4 or 8.
Ok, got these installed and for small hard bumps, these shocks are a massive improvement. But for larger undulating vertical movements, it still crashes but certainly not as bad as stock. 10 clicks from hard both front and back.
Which car model do you have?
@@robchev 22 MY LR 19" wheels
It’s interesting that you guys talked about the tread depth on the low mileage tires. I was just talking to a tire shop about putting 295’s on my Y Performance wheels. He said going wider than stock will cause the tires to prematurely wear in the center, as if they were over inflated. You guys sort of touched on that topic, but did not mention tire size. I was able to screen shot the tire size and saw that he is running mega oversized tires on the rear. 315’s. That probably explains the wear. I also think you should have mentioned the tire size, because his results with those shocks, and those massive tires, may be dramatically different than someone running stock 275 tires. I guess you did mention is was a mega peach. But not the size of that peach, LOL. Sorry if this came across too Karen-ish. I just found the details both interesting and enlightening.
why do wider tires wear in the center
What is the exact P/N just for the Tesla Y rear shock?
May I ask which model of this Tein suspension? Thanks!
Great video. I have the 2022 YP. I'm installing these. 👊🏽👊🏽
did you install these, what was the impact on ride quality ?
I'm sure these are great but using the MPP KW coilovers make adjustments alot easier having the adjustments at the bottom of the shock. Most aftermarket are going to be a better ride than the stock Y performance coilovers for sure. You are definitely better off ditching the stock springs too though as that's where some of the weird side to side bounce comes from
I'm looking for aftermarket springs that do NOT lower the ride height, are there any?
@@igbatious if you go with a full coilover. You cna use mountain pass comfort coilovers and they will ride at stock height or lower or a little higher depending what you want.
Hey Gjeebs, great video. Whats the name of suspension and where can we purcchase these from? I have a model Y rwd, hopefully it make the ride better
I was waiting for this thx. So what settings did Yal end up with? Full soft?
Well this video hit at the right time, I am picking up my new 2023 Tesla Model Y AWD Long range on Sunday, and I am sad to let my 2023 Ioniq Limited goodbye as I will miss that great suspension. Looks like you can gain great ride quality with just good adjustable shocks thanks for the video, I feel better now. The 2023 has already improved suspension but if it does not, shocking to say all I need to change those shocks! Now I just get to get all those Model Y accessories!
Also considering Y, but the suspension on ioniq 5 is too good to give up. Let me know how it compares when you decided to change the shocks.
I keep bumping into you sir! Ha ha its a sign I should go the Model Y route
When did you order your Tesla ?
I’m hoping I will get mine by end of this month
@@YTYTYTY7 I went from a 22 I5 Limited to a 23 MYLR and the interior is louder + the suspension is much stiffer. Those are the big complaints. Minor complaint being no radar and no 360 camera views. Outside of this, I’d take the MYLR every day over the I5 Limited.
@@sinashirazi1074 Im in Vancouver Canada and i ordered the last week of Apr, now stated for May 9 - 23. Funny story the Ioniq is expected for 24th haha
Wow only 10,000 miles and they need replacing! My back tires lasted 22,000 miles and I was complaining! Those back tires cost me 1100 bucks to replace! As a result, I now have 19 Gemini wheels and all season continental which are way cheaper , last longer , better range and ride quality is a little better. Of course, the Uber turbine wheels look the best! Great review!😊
I’ve already bought a set of 20” wheels and replacing with all-season Michelin tires.
Non EV-tires ran with lower efficiency right?
Hello. What are the part numbers of this Tein Enduro + shocks?
Hi. Can you pls share the accessory for the front trunk? I think you opened it with applicaton.
I believe, in the performance model, the rear wheels have a slight negative camber from the factory for a better grip. For this reason, it is natural for the inside half of wheel to wear out more than the outside.
That is true. I seen it on my performance with a wider staggered set up.
All cars I know do…
Where is the link for these shocks please?
Would you recommend doing this on the model 3 too? Model number?
I'm putting a full air Ride system on my 2022 model 3 Long Range. BagRiders SuperLow w/AirLift 3P controls system.
@@iffiamj oh my bad🙄
I can't seem to find the right Fein shocks for my 2022 Tesla Model Y PERFORMANCE? What exactly is the part Number?
What are your tire sizes? Any rubbing issues??
I’ve got a 2022 model Y performance. Is it worth it for me to buy these for the rear and the front? From what I assume it would only be $800 for all four? Please let me know.
How do you make the UI look like that? Like full screen?
Did the yellow rubber stopper come from the Tesla OEM damper? - So if it has a hydraulic bump stop is it necessary at all? - would leaving out the rubber stopper theoretically would allow for longer travel and more progressive stop (bottom out)?…
Nice !
Can I have the Tein part # and where to order them.
Thank you
Where did you order the TEIN endura pro shocks?
No jack stands?! Safety man, safety!
how would be to replace only rear dampers with tein or koni special active?
I want two of them! I mean, my wife wants one for her '23 Y LR and I want one for my '23 Y AWD (4680)
I tried to order a rear and front set of these last week from RzEV. First they notified me the fronts were no longer available then the rears are also no longer in stock. They can setup a notification for when the whole set of 4 comes in stock though. Who knows how long that'll be. Good luck!
How do you set a full screen mode on the dashboard? Like at 13:00
Any updates about shock in 2023. Wanna ypgrade my 2022 MY.
Thanks
What settings did you end up with?…can it be adjusted without a complete unistall? - guess you would have to take the wheel of at least?…
Matt is a fine old man 🤣
It is important to add a safety stand when jacking the vehicle up.
Hey Gjeebs, have you ever considered sound proofing your car a bit with a dyna mat install? It’s not the easiest thing to do but I’d imagine it could make a material difference in cabin sound.
I did my entire trunk in Hushmat. Makes a world of difference back there for sure.
My wife silenced all the annoying sounds in her car.... she just told me I'm not allowed in her car anymore...😊
I’ve rented a MY23 LR and it’s more comfortable than 22 but still stiff. Also it’s so shaky like a shaky camera when one walks every makes it just shake. I’m coming from an Lexus LS460L with air suspension so I’m spoiled. However The Model X was more stable and smooth not smoother than my Lexus but still great
Just installed 4 endura pro plus on my YLR 2022. set to 10 front (max soft is 16). and 12 R. increase comfort of around 25%. no regrets at all. but I expected a litlle more comfortable.
same lol - it's not as obvious as the online reviews are making it out to be
je me suis aperçu que le réglage avait 32 positions et non 16... contrairement à ce que j'avais compris dans les vidéos TH-cam :-( J'ai donc mis le réglage sur 20 à l avant et 24 à l'arrière. bien en ville. mais, après un tour sur l'Autoroute (en France) à 130 km/h (Highway), la voiture est devenue dangereuse avec ce réglage dans les virages. l'arrière rebondissait. il y a clairement un manque de fermeté flagrant en "détente". En compression, ça va. J'ai mis donc plus ferme, soit 18 et 18. Toujours confortable en ville. C'est devenu correct sur autoroute. c'est , pour moi la limite maximum alliant confort et conduite sur autoroute en sécurité. il serait dangereux de mettre plus souple. je vais donc encore modifier le réglage dans les prochains jours. ça coute à chaque fois 120 euros car seuls les amortisseurs avant sont réglables sans démontage. pour les arrières il faut démonter et je n'ai pas envie de faire ça moi-même. prochain test à 14 /14 dans les prochains jours. par contre j'ai maintenant un petit bruit dérangeant à faible vitesse. comme si un truc claquait. si finalement ça ne va pas , je balance tout et je reviens aux amortisseurs d'origine. ou alors je vais tester les KONI.
if you are working alone, ebrake, chock up the tires and add a jack stand. Enable service mode, wiggle test after.
I’d assume the answer is no, but does this effect the warranty?
Does this work on Tesla model 3 2019 long range ?
Does this void the warranty?
Can someone link to this exact product? Would love to check it out but this is like speaking German to my Ashkenazi butt. LOL!
Question: how does a soft rear shock affect handling, specifically on a race track?
That’s how you usually set up for a race track. A softer rear gives you much more grip through and out of corners, while you try to keep the front as stiff as possible.
Does anyone have a link to these for 2022 MY LR or part number?
I got TIEN installed on my model 3 - the results are SHOCKING! (pun intended :D ) Really, it's amazing. I have also set my tire pressure from overpressured 2.9 to a "normal car" 2.1 levels. I'm like floating on air, when the road is even. No more harshness. I greatly recommend them.
Which ones did you buy for model 3 ... Also were those coilovers or just the dampers
@@rajivloonia it's just the dampers themselves. Tein Endura Pro Plus
Curious how much you paid to have them installed
@@bmulligan12345 it's about 4 hours of work. It costed me 130 euros for the installation.
@@vygandas1024 Thanks for the info, i set my tire pressure at ~35 PSI which is ~2.4 bar and the ride is way more comfortable no more harshness when driving on city streets or sudden freeway imperfections. I have 19 inch wheels on my Model 3 LR. Whats your wheel configuration ? I wonder why tesla suggests 42 PSI tire pressure levels not sure if its for range or load. Recommended settings are too harsh to drive on anything but perfect roads and will make even an Accord or Civic feel like it has wooden wheels
My favorite part was when you worked on the car without a jack stand.
Safety 3rd ftw!!!!
Where’s the link to the product man?
Great content as always Ben. Any shops in the Phoenix-metro area that you'd recommend to install these?
Plaid performance. Luca is great he installed my sway bars
Thank you @@Gjeebs . I got hold of Luca and have an appt setup. He seems solid and has a sweet ride too. Appreciate your help.
Where did you get just the Rear shocks?! Been trying to find just rears and I can’t find them, please help if you can thank you so much!
I think they stopped selling them this way unfortunately
I'm wondering if these dampeners would offer a significant difference in ride quality for the 23 MYP.
Yes, ride comfort is definitely improved on 23 MYP.
Yep I love my 23 MYP
Link of the part?
Clockwise closed is fully stiff(0)
Counter Clockwise only up to 16 clicks is full soft. Anything pass 16 you’ll damage the shock.
Model 3P - 8 clicks front 10 clicks rear with H&R springs. Rides 10x better then stock.
Do you have the links for this shock, I would like to try it on my 2021 Y, thanks
I'd go with this: th-cam.com/video/CTbI8uturQY/w-d-xo.html
What’s the model number on these? Can someone link us?
How does this affect range or mile efficiency?
Great video… finally seems to be a cheaper solution to fix the rough ride. I have 2023 LRY.. not sure if I can get this product in Canada and if someone can help to install
probably a stupid question but what about warranty?
Wonder how will affect Tesla warranty?
Is it worth getting it for my MY P 2023? because I've heard they have improved the suspension on the newer models.
The improved suspension is only on the standard and the LR
@@RahzAlGhul Yes I agree I have a 2023 MYP and its pretty still I drove in a 2022 same car same feel.
Are these available to help the ride of other cars, like my Infiniti FX35?
Yes
I just made 77.000 km with my MY LR summer/winter tires - the first set. The winter tires are good for one more season. The summer tires still have some 10-15k km life left. How do you drive that you need new tires every 16.000 km?
What's the tread depth? ie. Are they road legal anywhere other than the USA?
@@FireMunki63 I am from Austria. There is still more than enough thread depth on the original Hankooks. I drive the summer tires until the indicator is on top. Thats 2 Millimeters. The wintere tires down to 3 Millimeters.
As i am in no hurry and do not have to go 250 on the german autobahn and usually or at least not very often go and chase puny little Porsches thats plenty enough for my use case.
I have a 2021 Model y performance....what shocks do you suggest for a softer ride?
unplugged performance luxury shocks are what I have now and they are amazing video here: th-cam.com/video/CTbI8uturQY/w-d-xo.html
How do you set screen to full view navagation?
That's only with FSD
I'll have my TEIN Endura Pro Plus installed tomorrow. By the way, what's the purpose of trimming off the bumper stop?
because the shock is less stiff it gives the suspension more room to travel before bottoming out
@@Gjeebs Thanks for your response. I checed on TMC forum, someone posted a diagram that where one would cut / trim off rhe bumber stops. It was quite confused to me, didn't clear up much.
😅😅😅
Do you have a rear shock absorber making noises, do I have such a problem?
anyone replace that tein shocks in bay are or SF？I consider where can make that?
What color is his Tesla?
I replaced my model 3 with enderaplus pro. I set mines to 10 front and V
I realize my question has nothing to do with this video. How did you get the driving visualization full screen? Thanks,
He has FSD. So when it's engaged you just swipe right
Had no idea this was a thing. Amazing
Former Tesla mobile technician here. Avoid doing this while you have warranty. This mod will void your warranty on the entire suspension system but also on the motors if something happens with them. I have seen them deny warranty on a faulty drive unit because ”the suspension mod have caused excessive strain on the drive unit”. That guy cried when I called him.
What motors are you referring to?
I went with Mountain Pass Performance.
Anyone got a link for it? Got a 22 MY LR
You have the car resting on the floor jack with the jack stand sitting off to the side? Darwin award is looking over your shoulder.
I really wish they would just sell the rears. I know it's not as much profit for them as for the set of 4 but many folks would just replace the rears and call it a day. Not buying the 'you need full set' song. Might just go with newest OEMs from Tesla in the rear.
Why get a performance vehicle to mess with the shocks to undo the sport suspension? Doesn’t make sense to me. The ride also gets stiffer with 21” rims with worn out tires. If you want a soother ride, just buy the AWD, long range Model Y with 19” wheels. Tires last longer, so no complaints, and a smoother ride. Also, save a few thousand dollars.
I agree with Jae The Dev. Please let us know the exact product description. The website has too many variations! I don’t know which one to get (especially the extension option)
TEIN EnduraPro Plus Adjustable Shocks / Struts (Pair)
Flexible Adjuster / Controller Extensions: ????
I did exact same upgrade on rare wheels only on my MY RWD 2023 (Chinese made) which already had a comfort suspension ( according to Tesla ;-)). Just set it to softest as you mentioned in the video and it made a huge difference already. Just wondering if I shall keep on softest or tune a bit up? what was our experience?
Does that guy live in Arizona? Can I get connected with him as I would like to buy the shocks and pay him to install for me. Thank you
This doesn't void the warranty?
No it does not. There's strict laws concerning any attempts by the car manufacturer to void warranties when aftermarket parts are installed.
I didn’t use bump stops at all on my whole set, I don’t think you’re supposed to use bump stops on the enduro pro plus.
I did a full set on my 2023 Model 3 LRAWD paired with progressive rate Eibachs, car just glides. Front is set to 10 rear to 8.
You only did the rear, imagine if you did the front too. 😂
can you provide link to springs you used
Can anyone comment on the road noise in the 2023 LR new, I drove an old performance and couldn't even hear a pod cast on the highway the road noise was so bad....it was the main deal breaker....suspension can be fixed but not the road noise......
I just drove my 2023 MYP to Vegas and back I could here the music just fine on the freeway.
I have a 2021 MYLR and just returned from a 1900 mile road trip. I listened to podcasts and music with no issues. I have the stock Continental all season tires. The tires on the car you drove were probably the source of the road noise.
@@RW-ur7ym Yes, there is a major difference between the LR and performance versions. Thanks!
It’s pronounced “tayne”
Why replaced only two rears? Maybe it will be easier to put back the OEM. It is purely an ad. It wont improve much.
Too bad there isn't a scientific tool measure the ride quality before and after the changes. Kind of like a decibel meter for sound, but instead a smoothness or bumpiness meter for ride quality. If there is such a tool...
I have a 23 standard MY. My wife complains about the rough ride. I’m not so sure, but it seems to me that Tesla could’ve done a better job engineering the suspension. Or maybe Elon told them to do it that way because soft rides are woke.😂
A side comment, did the performance in this video have a powered frunk?
Is it "Endura" or "Enduro"? I Google'd and now Im more confused. HAHA
It’s EnduraPro Plus.
For the Price of the Model Y Performance, this should come with car included. Too many videos out there with basic Tesla upgrades that should already be included.
Notice how much autopilot was used, on the ride? A real life depiction of what people would choose, when given the option to either drive or be driven by the car? Doesn't take away your ability to drive, but it sure as hell relives you of driving, when in situations where driving is stressful. And such situations occur very, very, frequently.
Love my FSD!
It is great when your talking to someone or need to concentrate on something. Let the car drive you for awhile
Is it this model (looks identical to Model 3 and Model Y): TEIN-VSGP3-B1MS2 ?
wonderful until you reach 80mph I believe
NOWHERE do you show us the PART NUMBERS for these shocks. C'mon Gjeeebs. Don't make me beg!