Shogun Episode 8 Breakdown | Recap & Review

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  • Shogun Season 1 Episode 8 Breakdown. In-depth recap and review for Shogun 2024 - S01E08 “The Abyss of Life” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 th-cam.com/users/petepeppers...
    Shogun is the new FX/Hulu historical drama based on James Clavell's 1975 novel of the same name. In episode 8 Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada) is faced with an ultimatum from his old friend and closest advisor Hiromatsu (Tokuma Nishioka). Stop his plan to surrender or Hiromatsu with commit seppuku immediately. His vassals, followers, and closest advisors are urging him to fight back but Toranaga says the cost would be too high.
    John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis), is reunited with his crew only to realize he feels strange around them. Mariko (Anna Sawai), and Buntaro (Shinnosuke Abe) share a tea ceremony that doesn't end the way Buntaro would like.
    S1E8
    "The Abyss of Life"
    Director Emmanuel Osei-Kuffour
    Writer Shannon Goss
    Toranaga's defeated clan moves to Edo; Blackthorne must decide who he fights for.
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  • @bmbmw69
    @bmbmw69 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

    I laughed out loud when i saw that the church was going to be next to the brothel.

    • @RinZ3993
      @RinZ3993 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Comedy gold 😂

    • @phyotennis7462
      @phyotennis7462 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yes, that was a low blow 😂

    • @jelletje8
      @jelletje8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      same

    • @ShadowProject01
      @ShadowProject01 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same. The Nelson(Simpsons) laugh at that too

    • @butter5144
      @butter5144 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lamo1724
    @lamo1724 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    The acting in this series is first class. Everyone should be very proud of their work in this. Pete, your breakdowns are the only ones worth watching xxx

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The quality of the acting always seems to surprise me even though it's been great throughout. they keep finding ways to impress.

    • @cocoacrispy7802
      @cocoacrispy7802 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The acting, yes, with the significant exception of Jarvis. The scene with the man playing his former shipmate, well, it was painful to watch.

    • @ssotkow
      @ssotkow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hiro's acting was great. Much more visceral than Toranaga's.

    • @JackFN_VR64
      @JackFN_VR64 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cocoacrispy7802howso?

    • @JackFN_VR64
      @JackFN_VR64 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cocoacrispy7802 Howso?

  • @zackariaguefassa2274
    @zackariaguefassa2274 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    Hiromatsu is the best portrayal of a samurai in any series or movie I've seen

    • @cbspock1701
      @cbspock1701 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That scene was awesome. You could feel the tension between two old friends.

    • @salimmazariboufares3118
      @salimmazariboufares3118 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know how a real Samurai looks like?

    • @mohamedwardi100
      @mohamedwardi100 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How about the Daimyou in "The Last Samurai"

  • @NellBelle
    @NellBelle หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    I would like to note the excellence of the Japanese actors. They are all first rate and its inspiring to see such a high level of professionalism my everyone. Hiromatsu's and Toranaga scene is an example of acting with your eyes alone. Love this show.

    • @maryrippy130
      @maryrippy130 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Yes!! Totally agree. Even though Buntaro was a despicable character you could see his depth of pain simply by the actor's subtle facial expressions in both the tea ceremony and the seppuku scene. Not a good day for Buntaro! I was even crying for him- gaaah!!

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@maryrippy130 Buntaro is now my favorite character because of how complex he is

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@nont18411 I know many people don't like him because he beat his wife and is an abusive father. All true, but considered normal for the times. That aside, he is one of my favorite characters. I can't wait and hope to see some more badass combat from him.

    • @sanseiryu
      @sanseiryu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is amusing that this series has turned out not to be the Blackthorne and Mariko show as so many of the haters expected it to be. In fact Blackthorne so far has been relegated to be a bit player with little to offer, other than the lucky saving of Toranaga during the EQ, for humor as an antagonizer of the Jesuits and the romance between he and Mariko has barely been addressed in the show, unlike in the book and original mini-series. This has been a Japanese production of the Shogun novel. Other than the few scenes with Blackthorne, nearly every scene is spoken in Japanese dialogue with subtitles.

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thechikuwa284 K

  • @MRDARRENGER
    @MRDARRENGER หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The fact that we rarely see any action or samurai actually fighting, and I AM STILL on the edge of my seat watching the story unravel, fully invested in all characters says it all. This series is an absolute master class of motion picture film-making.

  • @williamdaniels9728
    @williamdaniels9728 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    The show is going to win all the Emmy's. ALL the Emmy's.

    • @infamousjoker7651
      @infamousjoker7651 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It by all rights should..but because its not a "woke" show...it wont

    • @ShadowProject01
      @ShadowProject01 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@infamousjoker7651please stop

    • @petergianakopoulos4926
      @petergianakopoulos4926 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Articles have been written that the white narrative wasn't needed

    • @Amar-rc4dc
      @Amar-rc4dc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who is Emmy?

    • @Hochspitz
      @Hochspitz หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the contest should revolve around 3 Body Problem and Shōgun, 2 completely different genres, then the Emmys have a very hard task on their hands.

  • @maxbardus3019
    @maxbardus3019 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    Bromance between Blackthorn and Yabushige is something I didn't know I needed.

    • @bartsullivan4866
      @bartsullivan4866 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Mutual respect for each other. I liked how he was dying to get back to his crew but once he sees one of them drunk and disorderly he seems to have grown an affection for the Japanese than to his Englishmen where he will have to make a choice. I don't know the rest of the story but I wouldn't doubt that he sends his crew back to England to setup commerce with Japan as he builds a fleet for The Shogun.

    • @davidk6269
      @davidk6269 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      A true bromance transcends any language/cultural barrier. ; )

    • @spicysauce4739
      @spicysauce4739 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      and both can have tendencies of being a scoundrel but underneath is a heart, yabu’s ofc being a bit more twisted lol

    • @davidk6269
      @davidk6269 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@spicysauce4739 A true bromance can overlook such minor impediments as one bro having boiled a crew member of the other bro alive. ; )

    • @TheHooperful
      @TheHooperful หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bartsullivan4866 Aren't the crewmen dutch?

  • @Inkspeckle
    @Inkspeckle หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    What's hilarious about Mariko's arrival on Yabu's ship is that everyone there thought Toranaga had no idea they were going to Osaka, until her presence and message reveals that no only did he know, he fully expected this from both of them.
    This is evident by Omi warning his uncle about Toranaga's possible retaliation should he find out about this journey. Mariko carries a letter from Toranaga addressed to Yabushige, confirming he not only knew, but wants him to do a certain job there.
    BUT Mariko's presence and her orders to accompany them signals that Toranaga also expected the Anjin there. Mariko has nothing to do with Yabushige, but Toranaga knows Blackthorn still needs an interpreter to properly communicate with Yabu.
    Basically this is just a very subtle way for Toranaga to say "you thought you could outplay me, but I was ten moves ahead of you all along "

    • @danieltheone706
      @danieltheone706 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't toranaga send him to Osaka to deliver the guns tho?

  • @blacksharkpro3yt351
    @blacksharkpro3yt351 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    HIROMATSU is a wiseman sensing the Generals defiance could lead to dethrone Toronga so he set himself as example.
    As "if you don't agree with Toronaga then be honorable and do it like me Hara Kiri style"

  • @infamousjoker7651
    @infamousjoker7651 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Buntaro is such a good charrecter...

    • @danstvguy
      @danstvguy หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It many ways this was Buntaro's episode.

  • @chewiewins
    @chewiewins หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    One of best shows ever. Every episode amazing and this one blew it out of the park
    Even felt for Buntaro being rejected by his wife then have to behead his father and not allowed to commit seppuku

  • @marknovak6498
    @marknovak6498 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    They know how to build drama here without telegraphing the outcome. This show seems to be a product of a more patient time.

    • @cameronmousleyfitness5000
      @cameronmousleyfitness5000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😮😢😮0😮😮😅😅😅😅❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊❤

  • @davepost7675
    @davepost7675 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Best episode so far. I'm not convinced that Hiromatsu knew of Toranaga's plan. Though I feel he knew that Toranaga had a plan and his sacrifice would further the plan. The reason I don't think he was informed of the plan is because of all the spy's. It would have been reported to Osaka if they met in private at any point. He even knows if he doesn't cough while alone, that would probably be reported as well.

    • @OthonasDrums
      @OthonasDrums หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Hiromatsu wasnt informed,he just figured it out on his own because of how well he knew Toranaga

    • @Kjleed13
      @Kjleed13 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I got the sense Hiro knew, he quickly spoke up when he saw the others in disagreement. They need them to believe defeat is inevitable so blackthorn, Yabu and nephew can convincingly get the council to drop their guard.

    • @user-bb8wo4ug2s
      @user-bb8wo4ug2s หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      if you pay atenti0n to the details it can be spotef when Hiromatsu realize what is th plan in 46:05 shortly after Toranaga says "Now You make yours " look at his quick face ecsprssion , remember they now eatch other since he was little boy, i believe he treated him like his father ,pay attention how he blink his eyes .

    • @TentaclePentacle
      @TentaclePentacle หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      hiromatsu knew his duty without being told, that is why he wanted his son to live so his son could fight for his lord when the time comes.

    • @neondemon5137
      @neondemon5137 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The significant look was enough.

  • @hugoleesong
    @hugoleesong หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    My theory is that Torunaga could not trust any and I mean any of allies to keep it secret that he had no intentions of actually surrenduring. And if Ishiso had any sort of indication that he wasnt surrendering, it would be all over. He simply could not take the risk.
    1. Yabushige
    If Torunaga ordered him to attack with the cannons instead of Yabushige doing it on his own, he runs the risk of Yabushige or any of his spies (or Ohmi) spreading the news all the way to Ishido. Yabushige had to make the decision of his own volition.
    But Yabushige was banking on Torunaga having an ace up his sleeve and wouldn't dare to step out line with his own plans. Hiromatsu's seppuku was the final thing which Yabushige needed to believe Torunaga had lost his mind and finally surrendered, which led him to accept John Blackthorne's offer.
    Ultimately, Yabushige and Ohmi were to the weak link that gave Ishido too much info on Torunaga. And in their vulnerable state, Torunaga must have assumed his clan was full of Yabushiges and Ohmis that would betray him.
    God damn man. 😂 Hard being a leader.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That’s what separate the average Joes like us from the legendary shogun like Toranaga

    • @88Cloud
      @88Cloud หลายเดือนก่อน

      ❌ Torunaga
      ⭕️ Toranaga

    • @iPyroNigma
      @iPyroNigma หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The man who stands at the greatest height is the loneliest man in the realm. A teaching Toranaga tried to help his son learn, but ultimately failed.

  • @lendial
    @lendial หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Toranaga will do anything to win, even if it means sacrificing those that seem closest to him. The reason this show is so compelling is that no one is pure or good. everyone has selfish, personal desires counterbalanced with the harsh world they live in.

    • @wmccinema
      @wmccinema หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      He envisions a unified country instead of repeating into cycle of violence, thus he must win.

    • @MatthewDeKoekkoek
      @MatthewDeKoekkoek หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And it's not like they wouldn't be sacrificed anyway, whether it's his son or Harimatsu, they will die with Toranaga in Osaka, to steal what little life they had left seems cruel, but he sincerely believes it means he can save even more people, including Japan. If he could sacrifice himself to save everyone and Japan, he would do that too, but that's not an option

    • @kennyknight07
      @kennyknight07 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mach·i·a·vel·li·an style leadership. He's gotta think bigger beyond anybody. So sacrifice even if it's so personal & close kins must not be hesitated. Though I see that the world post GOT , things must be grand n more complicated. (Big departure from the original book.) Almost too much and intentional for the sake of being dramatic. I liked the episode. Especially the depth of Mariko vs shallowness of Buntaro. Really witty of Japanese culture.

    • @Alex-pb6mx
      @Alex-pb6mx หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He didn't willingly sacrifice them
      That's what makes him better
      They put their lives on the line for his vision with no thought of anything back
      Most don't even know the vision which makes it so crazy
      Man has real loyal vassals

    • @allyourmoney
      @allyourmoney หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Toranaga's desire to win isn't out of selfishness. It's out of the greater good. He truly believes that a Japan with Ishido & the Christian regents in charge would turn the country into a puppet of the church & systemize the corruption that's already there. Furthermore he didn't order Hiromatsu to kill himself, but his friend took it upon HIMSELF to do that-----so that no one else would have to. Including his son. Toronaga saw this & accepted his sacrifice.
      One of the things a commander MUST do is to order people to their deaths to save many more. Toronaga will no doubt order Mariko to sacrifice herself in some way but the deaths of these loved ones is TRIVIAL compared to the many warriors who will die in the coming war for the country. That's war. You only do it if you truly believe in your cause, which he does.

  • @eddieterrell5457
    @eddieterrell5457 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    This episode was crazy!!!🔥🔥🔥 I hate it’s just a miniseries!

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      indeed

    • @bmbmw69
      @bmbmw69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eh they would eventually ruin it

    • @Pedant_Patrol
      @Pedant_Patrol หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm glad it's a miniseries. Less chance of them eventually fxcking it up. GoT is ruined for me after that ending. I can't even bring myself to watch the first few seasons, which were phenomenal.

    • @williamaseng
      @williamaseng หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pedant_Patrol yeah GOT was good until the battle of the bastards for me. Shogun has been amazing. I can't wait for Tuesday every week. lol

    • @nicholasdesilvio4485
      @nicholasdesilvio4485 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pedant_Patrol im the same way i refuse to watch GOT ever again after how bad they ruined it.

  • @gerardojg
    @gerardojg หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The scene between Toranaga and Mariko was intense. Each was articulating their own grief. Mariko's grief for the family, including recent ones, and honor she lost many years ago. Toranaga's grief of his son and dearest friend. I still suspect a history between Gin and Toranaga but those are only hints of such a thing. I loved this episode. You mentioned great acting. Ana Sewei's expression when Toranaga asked "are you ready for your part?". A mixture of relief and conviction and; I would hazard to say, a hint of happiness.

    • @MRDARRENGER
      @MRDARRENGER หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ana Sewei is a real surprise for me. I absolutely hated her character in the Monarch series as she is super annoying. She truly shines in this role.

    • @KermitOfWar
      @KermitOfWar หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MRDARRENGER
      Same. I found her annoying in Monarch, but in Shogun, she's perfect.

  • @ShadowProject01
    @ShadowProject01 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Can we give props to the actress who plays Lady Ochiba? When the Taiko’s Widow passed, with no words, the way she begins to weep but quickly reels it in and hides her 1st heart regaining her composure with no words spoken just peak acting 👌🏿

    • @fatalshore5068
      @fatalshore5068 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Not her mum. The lady who died was the Taiko's widow. Ochiba was the Taiko's consort and is the heirs mother.

    • @yiand3680
      @yiand3680 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She lost the backing of the highest authority's wife and had to go back to fighting. For her son. If she shows weakness, they will both be swallowed by the wave.
      It was well represented.

    • @ShadowProject01
      @ShadowProject01 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@fatalshore5068 yes this! Thank you for the correction. My original post has been edited.👌🏿

  • @Melodicroger
    @Melodicroger หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Well said, “complicated rather than calculated” in the scene with Hiro…it definitely felt real time.

  • @bb1111116
    @bb1111116 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    One thing I like about this series is how deep it goes in exploring medieval Japanese culture. There are multiple rules that are strictly followed. Also among the elite their communication is very subtle.
    (SPOILERS)
    Mariko and Buntaro are an example of this. They have been married for many years. Buntaro believes he understands his wife at least to some extent but she explains that he does not understand her at all. If she is going to die, it will be on her terms. She wants to be free of his control and their marriage, and only if they are divorced, only then would she choose death or life. Buntaro is devastated by that.
    Mariko also explains to Blackthorn that he does not understand what loyalty in Japan means. Blackthorn is baffled by Japan but then he realizes that he no longer wants to be a dirty, smelly European. Blackthorn is slowly being pulled into the Japanese way of life.
    Toranaga is navigating this maze of Japanese culture and the tremendous threat to his life. He has a vision for Japan but he has to win it against what seem impossible odds. Toranaga’s only option is delay. His son’s accidental death allows 49 days of mourning before going to Osaka. The sacrificial death of Hiromatsu gives Toranaga more time for mourning and it also forces his generals to back down and be loyal to Toranaga’s commands.
    In the meantime in public Toranaga is playing the sickly, defeated old man. Back in Osaka this play acting by Toranaga gives Ishido the confidence that he has defeated Toranaga and that his surrender is a formality. So, Ishido respects Toranaga’s days of mourning because it does not matter to him. Ishido is convinced that Toranaga is going to lose and Toranaga knows that. Like understanding hawks, Toranaga very accurately sees not only what Japanese people will do, but what Blackthorn will do.

    • @scribe3
      @scribe3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sun Tzu, keep your plans dark as night

    • @yiand3680
      @yiand3680 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The scene at the end where Ishido reads the letter and chuckles.
      It is probably a letter from a spy informing him that Hiromatsu is dead.
      He was convinced that he had won.

  • @TentaclePentacle
    @TentaclePentacle หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    His old friend's sacrifice is necessary because there are spies in toronoga's court that will report back to ishido that toronoga is really surrendering.

    • @SvgeRose
      @SvgeRose หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is simply playing the long game.

  • @shinrin-yoku3877
    @shinrin-yoku3877 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Kiku had that really great line to Omi ❤

  • @NuriaWatts
    @NuriaWatts หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The scene between Hiromatsu and Toranaga is probably the best acting ive seen in a long long time. Its like, at some point, it clicks for both that that is what is needed to be done, from there onwards its like both are acting in a play, trying to really sell it, while both are heartbroken.
    Incredible scene to watch twice. The first time i watched it i reacted as Yabu, Omi, Buntaro, etc... after a second watch maaaan.... i ended up ugly crying, amazing acting

  • @timbell6870
    @timbell6870 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This episode was outstanding! So was your analysis. Well done!

  • @ManAtWar_8895
    @ManAtWar_8895 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The character that i am intrigued the most about is Buntaro. His loyalty was unquestionable in the beginning. He stayed back to help his lord escape. Then he comes back to find his wife being a little too close to a man he despises, then Mariko herself delivers a heartbreak, and despite his abuse there's a part of him that cares for her being his wife, and the episode ends with him having to second his father. He's now the most conflicted man out of the entire bunch. It'll be interesting to see how his fate pans out. We know he is a great warrior and a great asset to Toranaga and he could be as deadly were his loyalty to change due to all the above factors.

  • @dennischen2642
    @dennischen2642 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing I haven't seen anyone mention, was that you can clearly see the ongoing construction happening in Edo in this episode. At first I thought that was just a neat detail by the showrunners, however looking into Tokugawa's history, he spent a considerable amount of time developing Edo from a small village to rival large cities at the time like Osaka and Kyoto. Edo became a center of culture for Japan during the Edo Period. The city is now known as Tokyo. It also made so much sense now why the Jesuits wanted to build a church in Edo so badly.

  • @JvWet
    @JvWet หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've read the book (and other book of Clavell's Asia Saga) but a long time ago, I've watched the 1980s series and I love this series, how it has moved away from the book's and the older series eurocentric perspective and put Blackthorne a little bit more in the background. I've no problems with the changes so far, and I'm really looking forward to the last two episodes and a season two.

  • @alizejm
    @alizejm หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Definitely my favorite episode so far!!!

  • @wmccinema
    @wmccinema หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This episode is the CLIMAX! The two remainders are closures.

  • @kellahella5286
    @kellahella5286 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Who thought that you could feel compassion for Buntaro? Mariko basically committed seppuku on him. Whoof

  • @Dhfwilson
    @Dhfwilson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watched a lot of break downs of these episodes. Yours is always the most considered and concise. Easily the best. I don’t know why I bother with the others to be honest. Keep
    It up buddy.

  • @sonofquebec
    @sonofquebec หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    About the ceremony with buntaro and mariko, its à tea ceremony. I've been à student of this ceremony for à year and à half and can tell that it was very well executed

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, when I was reading about it seemed spot on.

  • @Boatswain_Tam
    @Boatswain_Tam 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I would sooner live a thousand years than die with you like this"
    I'd say she repaid his abuse to him with interest, those words cut right into his core. This scene was as savage as it was beautiful

  • @davidellis8052
    @davidellis8052 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great summary. These are excellent videos.

  • @Ridgefall
    @Ridgefall หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    absolutely amazing episode and great review!

  • @simonh317
    @simonh317 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Would love Gai-Jin and Tai-Pan to be adapted as well

  • @simplybysuzie
    @simplybysuzie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best review ever! Thank you!

  • @josephiyeke8946
    @josephiyeke8946 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video!!!

  • @capetonian
    @capetonian หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Pete, great summary.

  • @rustyshackleford928
    @rustyshackleford928 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice breakdown. Thank you.

  • @emanuelalvarez2908
    @emanuelalvarez2908 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I loved the Yabushige-Blackthorn thing

  • @icyneko9175
    @icyneko9175 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Totally agree with your analysis

  • @earthfirstsammy
    @earthfirstsammy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    best breakdown yet Pete

  • @AashaMarieArtist
    @AashaMarieArtist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This week was one of the best episodes and yet I say that every week

  • @betharee990
    @betharee990 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciate your reviews mate. Thank you for not spoiling major plot points, despite reading the book.

  • @jcwoodman5285
    @jcwoodman5285 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Toranaga purses secrecy at such a great price I think he suspects the loyalty of his inner circle. Probably true given Yabu's wobbles...

  • @oloseldarion7117
    @oloseldarion7117 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been waiting for this!

  • @susanclare
    @susanclare หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always Pete, yours is by far the superior review of each episode of Shogun. Despite the fact that I need to wait almost 48 hours - here in Australia - after each episode to see it. By which time I have viewed several inferior reviews & am even more keen to see your ‘premium’ one. 😂

  • @dewulfe9913
    @dewulfe9913 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *_really_* good breakdown, think I went through the same thoughts about Hiromatsu and what happened there, and I don't think many if any other reviewers would have got there - have a sub!

  • @shinrin-yoku3877
    @shinrin-yoku3877 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Omi was just the best

    • @VValkyrie
      @VValkyrie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omi is a wuss in this version, different interpretation. I prefer Omi from 1980 version. Same with Buntaro. Two more episodes.

    • @JackFN_VR64
      @JackFN_VR64 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VValkyrieits 2024, the men are emasculated.

  • @kumagoro
    @kumagoro หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🎉 thanks Pete!

  • @melanoidmarkus
    @melanoidmarkus หลายเดือนก่อน

    The scene with Omi's speech was a masterpiece

  • @ZaimGamePlay
    @ZaimGamePlay หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    if you notice: Toranaga give a Deep eye blink of determination to hiromatsu when hiromatsu going to do seppuku, hiromatsu know that he is going to be victory and hes death pave the way :D the eye acting IS BEYOND. if you notice body language from toranaga to hiromatsu you notice... THIS IS ALL A PLAN!!

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plans like that only work if you have at least one friend in on it. If absolutely everybody believed 100% that Admiral Nelson was sick and dying and wanted to go meet the Spanish armada to surrender, we'd all be speaking Spanish right now. It's not supremely clever to convince your army that you are surrendering and pray to the Shinto that your generals have read the script for episode 9 and 10.

  • @boxtears
    @boxtears หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, EXACTLY. Toranaga never wanted it to be Hiromatsu but Hiromatsu decided this was the best way forward, especially when he saw one of the other generals going for his sword.

  • @joshoowuhhh9465
    @joshoowuhhh9465 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like to think that Nagakado burning represents a stick of time similair to the previous episode as Toranaga says "You have bought me more time."

  • @kurtbaier6122
    @kurtbaier6122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best interpretation of the show. I subd

  • @thabs2001
    @thabs2001 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh man, I really wish this episode was divided into 2 or 3 episodes. There's actually so much to work with and so much going on

  • @1776FREE2
    @1776FREE2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    _"All warfare is based upon deception."_
    _~Sun Tzu_

  • @MattFetterman-cg3ic
    @MattFetterman-cg3ic 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So weird that I felt bad for the guy because Mariko did not want to commit seppuku with him. I mean even if she accepts, it seems not so great for him.

  • @boocchihitori4450
    @boocchihitori4450 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    buntaro had a rough day

  • @maxinecohen4829
    @maxinecohen4829 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best episode to date is 8. The last 2 episodes are now guaranteed to be epic as we know Toranaga plans to fight to his death, although that won't be necessary as he'll win. Fantastic acting by all actors involved in this wonderful program. They made changes from the book but none of the changes bother me and some even improves on the story. Bravo to this 2024 Shogun. I still like the 1980's Shogun, but this one is better in a number of ways. For one, the ending was far less obvious in this 2024 version.

  • @blackeyedlily
    @blackeyedlily หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did miss Fuji in this episode. It showed how impactful her role has been in the series when she was missing.

  • @motorola9956
    @motorola9956 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have seen people write "Toranaga" as; Torunaga, Toronaga, Torenga, Torinaga, Toranga, Tronga, Tongara, Tonaraga, Tornga, Tonga, and Tronga.

  • @tylerensminger
    @tylerensminger หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've not read the book and I've only seen clips of the 1980s shogun program. That said, I have liked the 2024 version thus far. Hiroyuki Sanada is excellent as Toranaga and Anna Sawai is another star here

  • @cbspock1701
    @cbspock1701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my favorite episode so far.

  • @pulsarecho1952
    @pulsarecho1952 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great episode! Hiromatsu' sacrifice was something else.

  • @DonnaRigsby
    @DonnaRigsby หลายเดือนก่อน

    How and where do you get and put together these clips? It is so fascinating to me. I’d like to do something similar with another topic in the future. Thank you.

  • @MrGorobu
    @MrGorobu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heads rolled in this one

  • @JonLeejw
    @JonLeejw หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Buntaro and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

    • @shinrin-yoku3877
      @shinrin-yoku3877 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He did, I felt really bad for him 💔

    • @aleolivera2310
      @aleolivera2310 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      when you are having a bad day, remember this guy...

    • @kollow
      @kollow หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I've had a Buntaro day. I didn't have to execute my dad, though he just died suddenly, and my ex decided it was a good time to ambush me with a divorce. Good times.

    • @aleolivera2310
      @aleolivera2310 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kollow oh man, that sucks. Hope You get through all this crappy stuff.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, haha

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know if this Shogun is a limited series, or do they plan to keep it going for a few more seasons?

  • @TheDollyce
    @TheDollyce หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Taranaga's cough is faked. He's "acting out" like he's a broken, sick, tired, ready-to-die old man. Watch out. He's crafty, and a visionary.

  • @ManAtWar_8895
    @ManAtWar_8895 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also me: after reading the comments section, I'm heading to watch it again for the second time

  • @NPC8474
    @NPC8474 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Toranaga asked Mariko if she was now ready to do her part, I took that as a confirmation that Hiromatsu and Toranaga agreed to stage that scene beforehand.

  • @skrible71
    @skrible71 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite scene of the episode:
    Mamasan Gin: 🥰
    Father Martin: 😧

  • @joegarza158
    @joegarza158 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mariko plays such a beautiful actress,, what a beautiful woman

  • @kennuimuffins2426
    @kennuimuffins2426 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very hyped to see how things play out. The title of the next ep is interesting but I don't know if that's how it will play out.
    The only thing we know is he succeeds, I think that is fairly obvious.
    I also watched the last samurai at some point and man this blows the movie out of the water imo. Different formats so you can't compare it 1:1 but this feels so much more rich and detailed.

  • @csillag132
    @csillag132 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m sad that Hiromatsu died!

    • @SvgeRose
      @SvgeRose หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was solid character. Sad to see him go

  • @alexandrasandu3947
    @alexandrasandu3947 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    04:06 I wonder which parameters is Yabu considering when ranking being eaten by a dog -higher 🤔

    • @inetnomad3521
      @inetnomad3521 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had a feeling that he was ranking worst/dishonorable ways to die.

    • @nannimwuyep
      @nannimwuyep หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inetnomad3521 Most likely.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's really specific. Being killed by a dog is one thing but I feel like he's so into the list that he would make a distinction. When the person is consumed by the dog that's somehow worse.

  • @brysimm404
    @brysimm404 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are right, Pete. Toranaga isn’t a cold blooded monster, but is an unwavering chess master.

  • @UporaFilms
    @UporaFilms หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hiromatsu made me look away in painful tears. Damn you.

  • @acechump3284
    @acechump3284 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I "love" how feckless Blackthorne is in this FX Series. In the book, he had fought pirates, Spanish marines, was a Lord in his own country and learned Japanese quickly. Here, he walks with some strange bow-legged limpy gait and doesn't seem like a lord at all. In the book the Japanese and the Portuguese were amazed how quickly her learned the Japanese language and his attempts to learn and fit into their culture. His arc in this series is nearly pointless thus far. His love arc from the novel, gone, his knowledge and usefulness, largely gone. His loyalty to Toranaga, gone. It's a shame really.

  • @hellojam100
    @hellojam100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    any of the episode's final 3-4 scenes could have been the cliffhanger

  • @Birthright11
    @Birthright11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:56 the flooring is the shapes of the Fibonacci Sequence

  • @towertokyo
    @towertokyo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi I’m from Japan and would like to tell you the meaning of ‘49days’ after Toranaga s son died. In Buddhism,when people go to the other world,they will be judged every seven days from the first seven days to the seventh day, and the destination will be decided at the judgment on the last 49th day. There are 6 destinations after death. The remaining family members and relatives will hold a memorial service so that the deceased can go to paradise by praying that the suffering of the deceased will be removed. Toranaga could use this 49days of his son’s death to making plan and prepare for fighting.This custom remains as a funeral custom in Japan to this day.

    • @jnsoost
      @jnsoost หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.

  • @Amar-rc4dc
    @Amar-rc4dc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cried 😢

  • @Chapa-pa-pa
    @Chapa-pa-pa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I expect a lot to happen when they make me wait a whole week for the next episode.

  • @pevlez
    @pevlez หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny that Mariko talks about loyalty when Toranaga was willing to leave Blackthorne with the Portugese just to save his own skin, and this was after Blackthorne saved Toranaga's life twice

  • @mitchlel82
    @mitchlel82 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these last episode are going to be insane

  • @SMDoktorPepper
    @SMDoktorPepper หลายเดือนก่อน

    Torinaga also designed things to get Anjin close to the one general who actually is playing both sides, and with the cannon and guns.

  • @Triring65
    @Triring65 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the last sceen where Toranaga(Sanada) making his prayer to his son and Hiromatsu, I noticed that his prayer is a signature move of Sonny Chiba I believe it is a homage to Sanada's master of acting in jidaigeki!!

  • @nina27silver
    @nina27silver หลายเดือนก่อน

    08:18 Do you see the small square wooden door behind Mariko? That is the entrance to the tea room.
    The traditional Japanese tearoom is a small hut built in the garden, separate from the residence.
    And the small, narrow entrance means that
    "all people must bow their heads and cannot bring swords into the tearoom, which means that everyone in the tearoom is equal in status and position"
    I think that Buntaro's reason for inviting Mariko to the tea room may have been to have a private conversation and more importantly, "Let's be honest with each other today”

  • @royalt3690
    @royalt3690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be so cool if Toronaga wins the battle and they play the song Big in Japan!! Great show!

  • @joegarza158
    @joegarza158 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like this Shogun series,, I wanna see more than 8 episodes,, are there more,, I can't wait

    • @aliceDarts
      @aliceDarts หลายเดือนก่อน

      A quick Google search would let you know that there are 10 episodes.

  • @rawr7502
    @rawr7502 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loyalty and the perspective of what capacity of loyal the subjects are to Toranaga is seen in this episode. Some offer loyalty on conditions like the courtesan, priest, and Habushige.His son demonstrates blind loyalty by trying to kill his uncle not knowing all of the true plans. Mariko learns of what she must do to be loyal to Toranaga. Hiromatsu is pure loyal because hes willing to sacrifice himself in order for the plan towork. This is foreshadowed in blackthornes and Marikos conversation. Toranaga is playing 3-D chess

  • @bennygerow
    @bennygerow หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buntero is about to be a force of nature in battle.

  • @kierlendonbagsic7524
    @kierlendonbagsic7524 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hiromatsu is my Shogun Gandalf!!! 😭😭😭 my heart breaks Ojiisan!!!!!! 💔

  • @edelmiraespinosa9689
    @edelmiraespinosa9689 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, Shogun IS Toshiro Mifune it’ll be a daunting task to try to imitate him. He’s the best in the Japanese movie industry

    • @yiand3680
      @yiand3680 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toshiro Mifune is a legendary actor who performs while being shot with a real arrow.
      And Hiroyuki Sanada was disciple of Sunny Chiba. one of the last survivor of crazy real men who have acted with real swords.
      Today's young actors can't do it because of restrictions.
      We are the lucky guys who are seeing the last shine of Remnants by great real guys.
      Greetings from Japan.

  • @jefft786
    @jefft786 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish I could say I like this version but very lackluster overall. Starts off with Blackthorne being the center of the story to the point where he is an afterthought. Yes, it's called Sho-gun but anyone who has read the book would know what I'm talking about. BTW, no chemistry between the Blackthorne and Mariko characters.

  • @dldez8590
    @dldez8590 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a little confused with Omi, is he turning to Toronaga’s side now??

  • @SvgeRose
    @SvgeRose หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also feel like this whole season is building up to another possible season?