Does he rep Robin? I thought Dath and Mr II were the only big names of us Robin mains. It'd be great if so, so I have more matches to watch and study for what to do with Robin.
Drew W ikr I found Roy in melee and I loved him I was sad he wasn't in brawl but I picked him up in smash 4 and I dreamed to get in a tournament with Roy
th-cam.com/video/v2dCzDdLLYE/w-d-xo.html I litterally just searched this up and picked a random one but i bet theres vids out there of much more skilled roys beating much more skilled foxes
@@kaisser8915 except his voice that got nerfed except you can change language to japanese/Chinese(both) you wouldn't really want to change your game's language would you
Not only is this video a saving grace for aspiring Roy mains out there, but it also has some dope background music (Dragonspiral Tower some remix of it, not sure). Really glad to see some justice done for *our boy!*
sexyblackman123 Yuup. We got it. Recently switched my main to Roy a few weeks ago because my style is more close-combat. It's been good so far, but I just need to get my skill up.
I LOVE that you show examples of the situations people are talking about during the interview. So often people will play random footage while trying to explain situations that could happen during a match. Good stuff, man.
Thank you My Smash Corner and Ryo for a great video. Between this video and Art of Roy by Izaw we have very good introductory videos to Roy. I highly recommend people watch both.
the data you put in your videos is unparalleled. thank you for all u do for the community. your videos sometimes make me pick the game up for the first time in weeks.
I really like this type of video! Especially with Ryo as the special guest: he's really an amazing player, his matches with Esam and Abadango were so great, hope to see more of it!
I have always liked Ryo, but hearing him do this video, he sounds like a really cool, really intelligent guy. Great video, MSC! Love seeing your stuff on my feed. Keep it up!
Very cool combo vid MSC! I might try Roy because he feels underrated because his playstyle feels like it has potential. Ryo said a lot of my opinions when he was talking about stuff like approaches, match ups, and his status.
I have a little thing that I like to do with Roy. At around 25% when down through stops linking into jabs or up tilts if you expect your opponent to jump after the throw, shorthop sourspot upair. They will lose their jump but suffer no knockback. That means they are going to have to air dodge, attack, or do nothing. All three options can be punished very hard if you just shield or spot dodge. Then you can get a partially charged forward smash. Since your opponent is going to be around 35% at that point if you're near the edge they could be dead. Roy's down through is comparable to Robin's in it's amazing lack of knockback. At 0% you can get jab into regrab and at 10% you can get one or two up tilts depending on weight. There's also the down through to Up-B, but that's not really that good. Up-B has too much base knockback so you only get a little percent with no chance at a follow up. When fighting against a Roy always remember that Neutral-B has NO end lag what so ever. It's like Ganondorf's Up-Smash and is used as bate. Also remember not to air dodge after a down throw if you want to live past 30%. Roy's Up and Forward tilt, Dash Attack, all smashes and specials, and Up-Throw can all kill. If you're at high percents it becomes a game of don't get touched. Roy's aerials (bar Down-Air, which can kill off the top) don't kill until very high percents or off stage though, so you're fairly safe in the air. Roy's worst matchups are Falco and Villager. Mario can be trouble because Up-Tilt will string for a while since Roy falls so quickly. Link can be difficult because of his options in forcing an approach. Easy matchups are Mewtwo and Rosa as Ryo said. Mainly because they are super light and very easy to hit.
I really needed this. I've been a Roy main for a while, but just haven't really been improving at all. I realize now that if I wanna improve I really gotta just dig in and practice.
I'm a Roy main, and I'm proud to be one. I'm glad that Ryo was just like me, and didn't give up on Roy. Together, we can prove his viability. Also, because of just this video, Roy is going to shoot up the tier list. That's what happened after your Meta Knight video lol.
It would be heart breaking for me if Roy was lame. I played him since Melee. I love it to see him again in Smash 4. :) I love it more to see how awesome he could be. :D
Everyone thought marth was low tier as well, then what happened? Mr. E and MK Leo actually took the time and learned the character. Now Marth is sitting at I believe 14 on the current tier list and is a very tournament viable character. I believe Roy is the same way. People just need to experiment with him because you never know what works until you try everything. Don't be so focused on the opinions of the top players and go try stuff out on your own. I think if more people experiment and learn more matchups, Roy could definitely be a high tier character. People focus too much on the downside of Roy and all the other current low tiers. Yes his approach options suck, but who says you have to approach with him all the time? I play really defensive and make my opponent approach me, make a mistake and then punish with a combo. I do this with Roy (my main) and Mario (secondary) and usually land top 5 in my little local tournament. My point here is don't judge a character because of what top players say or what the rest of the community say about the character. Go try things out for yourself before you decide on an opinion.
It is true that people should try playing the characters more often before judging just by tournament results. However, Marth's not the best example, as he really wasn't good back at launch. He received a huge amount of buffs throughout the game's lifespan.
Great video as usual MSC! really informative and great content 'w' it will be scary to fight against Roy, but can pick up roy and be better with him! the skypesound scared me tho! xD
Wow I love this format! I would love if it if you can do more of these kind of videos with other characters. It would be amazing if you could do something like this with ZSS and nairo, I feel it would fit your video criteria really well!
“In this meta game it’s not so much mix-ups, it’s the guarantees and what your character has at their disposal and Roy’s just a somewhat basic swordsman.” That is honestly the best way to describe why Roy isnt higher on the tier list. He doesn’t have enough guarantees as higher tier characters, he’s a fighter who relies heavily on mix ups and reads, and in Smash 4’s metagame that just isn’t enough. Which is why you see some Roys get JVed by Fox and some Roys JV3 Cloud or Bayonetta.
Well, he does have to believe in his mains. Saying you play bottom tier characters to make a statement in a competitive environment does not feel very good, to say the least.
High Mighty Weasel Well, like Ryo said, most people haven't looked into him more, and a lot of Roy players don't fully optimize with him. It's also unfortunate that we don't see many Roys in tournament, so a lot of people just assume he can't do anything, which is far from the truth.
High Mighty Weasel Its a tier list thing, top tiers get more experimentation and low tier gets ignored by most players. This pushes the meta game to not really change.
I feel like the only reason Roy is so low in the tier list is because of the stigma he has of being "not marth" and therefore not many people feel like experimenting with him
Your videos are always amazing. When I watch the commentaries, it haves of persons who are always saying what this combos of character is lame or pathetic. I like to play Roy. I think that many people underestimated the capacities of each.
I've been considering playing Roy even more than before. Maybe as a secondary rather than a pocket character. He just fits my play style so well! He's fast, powerful, and has combos! That's pretty much everything I'd like in a character!
I think a great movement option for roy is dashing away from your opponent, then turning around with a hop with either a empty short hop or a short hop with an attack! 5:40
(At 0% med/fast fallers/heavies Jab > d Throw > Jab > F Smash/Up B/F Tilt/Up Smash/D Smash/Side B/Nair/Fair) It's a realy good starting combo if u were able to get near to the jab range.
First you want to neutral air, then follow up with neutral air. If your opponent DI's away then use a neutral air followed up with another neutral air. If your opponent dodges fastfall into a neutral air. Another combo to use is a neutral air, into a neutral air, followed up with another neutral air.
Hey MSC I invented a new Fox combo a few days ago which I have named the caliber combo/cal combo (that's my new name that I've been using) it consists of an up tilt to a footstool at 30-50% then a n-air lock into another up tilt footstool Nair lock, then finish it with a double u-air at higher percents and a weak up tilt at lower percents into an auto-cancel u-air, u-air which sometimes kills. Percents differ with wait and it is a di follow 50/50 on floaters or characters with good air mobility. Hope you enjoy, and remember, it is the CALIBER COMBO!
Ryo is such a great guy, cool to have him repping roy
Does he rep Robin? I thought Dath and Mr II were the only big names of us Robin mains. It'd be great if so, so I have more matches to watch and study for what to do with Robin.
+Zero Highwind Yeah,Marth goes to Mr.E and MK Leo.
+Shrubii ryo also plays lucina. But nairo plays lucina in big tourneys so I guess it goes to him. Both are awesome tho
Drew W ikr I found Roy in melee and I loved him I was sad he wasn't in brawl but I picked him up in smash 4 and I dreamed to get in a tournament with Roy
Slowbro Communities at my school roy one the tournament
I love Ryo, he's one of my favorite players
Ricardo Vazquez what?
Abraham coronel beltran you're mum gey
Ricardo Vazquez *your
Mullet Eagle 11 that's the meme
Ricardo Vazquez i have never seen or heard of this meme
Your videos are amazing
GimR: The VG Scientist Mah boi! What are you doing here? Don't you have videos to be working on?
GimR: The VG Scientist Yay Mr. GimR! :D
GimR: The VG Scientist you are awesome too game and watch shenanigans
GimR's Lab more g&m watch combos and neutral ft. Gimr
Mah boi Gimz
Because Roy's all about that base, bout that base, not tipper~~~~
I like it!
no
@Sir Timothy ♪All about dat base, bout that base, no tipper !♪
Smash 4 made our dreams possible...
A skilled Roy *CAN* beat any Fox!
th-cam.com/video/v2dCzDdLLYE/w-d-xo.html I litterally just searched this up and picked a random one but i bet theres vids out there of much more skilled roys beating much more skilled foxes
Stygian Gaming you didn't get the joke
Nah, Ultimate Roy is a million times better than Sm4sh Roy now.
@@kaisser8915 except his voice that got nerfed except you can change language to japanese/Chinese(both)
you wouldn't really want to change your game's language would you
My Smash Corner's first video of 2017. YAY!
Actually I think this is the second.
Benjamin Flenyol nope
i miss 2017
Not only is this video a saving grace for aspiring Roy mains out there, but it also has some dope background music (Dragonspiral Tower some remix of it, not sure). Really glad to see some justice done for *our boy!*
Finally covering my main. Thought he'd never see the light of day.
OfficialNinjaSkillz Same
yep #RoyIsTop20
Emperor Scorpius Sun Born - Bey™ Boku Wa Makenai!
OfficialNinjaSkillz Yay for roy
sexyblackman123 Yuup. We got it. Recently switched my main to Roy a few weeks ago because my style is more close-combat.
It's been good so far, but I just need to get my skill up.
My favourite player on one of my favourite channels. It's a good day!
I LOVE that you show examples of the situations people are talking about during the interview. So often people will play random footage while trying to explain situations that could happen during a match.
Good stuff, man.
Thank you My Smash Corner and Ryo for a great video. Between this video and Art of Roy by Izaw we have very good introductory videos to Roy. I highly recommend people watch both.
Oh and don't forget to join the Roy Discord!
the data you put in your videos is unparalleled. thank you for all u do for the community. your videos sometimes make me pick the game up for the first time in weeks.
I really like this type of video! Especially with Ryo as the special guest: he's really an amazing player, his matches with Esam and Abadango were so great, hope to see more of it!
Having Ryo on was an awesome idea. Great insight, and I love watching him play. Would like to see more interview videos like this!
this format is really good. The footage sync'd with the explanation is great! Good job!
Wow as a roy main (picked him up a few months ago) I needed this. Thank you so much Smash Corner and Ryo you're one of the best players I seen
I have always liked Ryo, but hearing him do this video, he sounds like a really cool, really intelligent guy. Great video, MSC! Love seeing your stuff on my feed. Keep it up!
Gosh that's so cool you got to interview Ryo! I remember when we was considered the best Ike. Now he's the best Roy!
Very cool combo vid MSC! I might try Roy because he feels underrated because his playstyle feels like it has potential. Ryo said a lot of my opinions when he was talking about stuff like approaches, match ups, and his status.
I'm so glad Ryo is getting more popular, I've been following his smash journey since back in project m. He's my favorite smasher.
Yes! I main Roy and this was so helpful! Thanks to you and Ryo for this!
I have a little thing that I like to do with Roy. At around 25% when down through stops linking into jabs or up tilts if you expect your opponent to jump after the throw, shorthop sourspot upair. They will lose their jump but suffer no knockback. That means they are going to have to air dodge, attack, or do nothing. All three options can be punished very hard if you just shield or spot dodge. Then you can get a partially charged forward smash. Since your opponent is going to be around 35% at that point if you're near the edge they could be dead.
Roy's down through is comparable to Robin's in it's amazing lack of knockback. At 0% you can get jab into regrab and at 10% you can get one or two up tilts depending on weight. There's also the down through to Up-B, but that's not really that good. Up-B has too much base knockback so you only get a little percent with no chance at a follow up.
When fighting against a Roy always remember that Neutral-B has NO end lag what so ever. It's like Ganondorf's Up-Smash and is used as bate. Also remember not to air dodge after a down throw if you want to live past 30%. Roy's Up and Forward tilt, Dash Attack, all smashes and specials, and Up-Throw can all kill. If you're at high percents it becomes a game of don't get touched. Roy's aerials (bar Down-Air, which can kill off the top) don't kill until very high percents or off stage though, so you're fairly safe in the air.
Roy's worst matchups are Falco and Villager. Mario can be trouble because Up-Tilt will string for a while since Roy falls so quickly. Link can be difficult because of his options in forcing an approach.
Easy matchups are Mewtwo and Rosa as Ryo said. Mainly because they are super light and very easy to hit.
OMG IVE BEEN WAITING TO LONG FOR THIS VIDEO
Very inspiring! Thank you MSC and Ryo!
thanks MySmashCorner
Going above and beyond in every single video, MSC.
Ayyyy Roy's our boy.
The best Channel of Smash, thanks for all tips and tutorials!
Okay that interview was actually really cool
These videos are great, please continue this series!
And people say Roy has no combos, pfft
Nova Bushido Nobody says that, people say that he has a bad neutral/approach options, which is agreed by Ryo himself.
Yeah lol nobody argued on his combo game
You'd really be surprise what I've seen people say about roy's follow ups.
Forward air
Forward air
Forward air
Win
pre-patch Sheik? Is that you?!
Ryo is a believer in the "low tiers" as well! Roy and Kirby and so much others are so much better than what people make them out to be! Roy's our Boy!
Ryo is amazing. Great guy and always very fun to watch. Hopefully he starts playing more.
My brother's been trying to play Roy. He'll love this! Thanks!
Thank you both for this analysis ! There's way too many misinformation on Roy so this is good to dispel it !
FINALLY!!!! YOUVE BEEN GONE FOR SO LONG MSC! THANK YOU FOR YOUR AWESIM CONTENT!!!!
I really needed this. I've been a Roy main for a while, but just haven't really been improving at all. I realize now that if I wanna improve I really gotta just dig in and practice.
That's my boy
CEGAMANX ayyyy
AKSK Morality lmaooooooo
yooooooooo
I literally one hour ago said that MSc haven't uploaded in a while and poof, a new video!!
Ryo so fun to watch. It was great to hear his take on the character
I love this, keep doing this things
Finally THANK U MY SMASH CORNER
Ryo is an anagram of Roy. He mains Roy. Wow the coincidence!
He mains ike and secondaries corrin and roy and pockets the rest of the cast
Gr8 job on this guide My Smash Corner really helped my Roy skills :)
I thought the skype was my end lol
ikr. i kept rewinding it to make sure
Benjamin Castellanos what do you mean
Ryo's voice quality isn't that good in this video.
Great video guys. Roy is my boy
Shulk next if you can! One of the best Smash TH-camrs about, ty for all you done for the scene man.
Smash Corner! You make some great videos. Now I want to play Roy even more!
Our boi is starting to get some love
Nice to see Roy get some love!
I'm a Roy main, and I'm proud to be one. I'm glad that Ryo was just like me, and didn't give up on Roy. Together, we can prove his viability. Also, because of just this video, Roy is going to shoot up the tier list. That's what happened after your Meta Knight video lol.
Roy is my main, so... I need to study this video! :D
And here I was thinking that Roy was lame... good to be proven wrong :)
(Ryo is amazing though, I love his Ike).
It would be heart breaking for me if Roy was lame. I played him since Melee. I love it to see him again in Smash 4. :)
I love it more to see how awesome he could be. :D
Matthew Darksephiroth I hope he keeps improving in the hands of Ryo and other Roy mains :D
Everyone thought marth was low tier as well, then what happened? Mr. E and MK Leo actually took the time and learned the character. Now Marth is sitting at I believe 14 on the current tier list and is a very tournament viable character. I believe Roy is the same way. People just need to experiment with him because you never know what works until you try everything. Don't be so focused on the opinions of the top players and go try stuff out on your own. I think if more people experiment and learn more matchups, Roy could definitely be a high tier character. People focus too much on the downside of Roy and all the other current low tiers. Yes his approach options suck, but who says you have to approach with him all the time? I play really defensive and make my opponent approach me, make a mistake and then punish with a combo. I do this with Roy (my main) and Mario (secondary) and usually land top 5 in my little local tournament. My point here is don't judge a character because of what top players say or what the rest of the community say about the character. Go try things out for yourself before you decide on an opinion.
It is true that people should try playing the characters more often before judging just by tournament results. However, Marth's not the best example, as he really wasn't good back at launch. He received a huge amount of buffs throughout the game's lifespan.
FEZeldalord12345 you have a point there
He was buffed.
TSS Studios true, but it wasn't too significant. Just a few frames of lag removed from some of his moves
ShadowWolf98
Actually, it really helped him. That was the biggest reason he moved so up in the tier list
MSC i love listening to your videos, you explain everything so well. Keep it up bro!
Eyyy I'm in this getting bodied by Cosmos
love the sidebar guides to weight, damage, and the combo lists
Ryo is such a genuine nice guy, I wanna hug him. xD
Gay
Great video as usual MSC! really informative and great content 'w' it will be scary to fight against Roy, but can pick up roy and be better with him!
the skypesound scared me tho! xD
Ryo the wise coming in with the Roy knowledge, lets go!!
Wow I love this format! I would love if it if you can do more of these kind of videos with other characters. It would be amazing if you could do something like this with ZSS and nairo, I feel it would fit your video criteria really well!
finally my favorite character
“In this meta game it’s not so much mix-ups, it’s the guarantees and what your character has at their disposal and Roy’s just a somewhat basic swordsman.” That is honestly the best way to describe why Roy isnt higher on the tier list. He doesn’t have enough guarantees as higher tier characters, he’s a fighter who relies heavily on mix ups and reads, and in Smash 4’s metagame that just isn’t enough. Which is why you see some Roys get JVed by Fox and some Roys JV3 Cloud or Bayonetta.
I don't even play smash anymore but dang his voice is so satisfying to hear
RYOs MY BOY!
Love that guy, one of my favourite smashers, but I need to see him play more.
I don't understand everything Ryo says but this video was very interesting ;) thanks MSC and thanks Ryo !
Now you're making me take notes here. MSC. And I gotta make a separate control scheme for Roy now too.
Some of the best sets I've had the pleasure of watching have been Ryo vs M2K on VGBootcamp and his voice is just as cool as I would have thought.
I'm so bad with and against roys. so I'm glad you made this video. now I can try to work with him with a little more knowledge
finally you do it on Roy!
Ryooooo my favorite player, he's great
Dude you finally do Roy you now realize Roy is our Boi
Top 25? Interesting, especially how people usually place him bottom 15 at best.
Well, he does have to believe in his mains. Saying you play bottom tier characters to make a statement in a competitive environment does not feel very good, to say the least.
High Mighty Weasel For me Roy is between 40s & 30s. Definitely not lower than that for me.
High Mighty Weasel Well, like Ryo said, most people haven't looked into him more, and a lot of Roy players don't fully optimize with him. It's also unfortunate that we don't see many Roys in tournament, so a lot of people just assume he can't do anything, which is far from the truth.
High Mighty Weasel Its a tier list thing, top tiers get more experimentation and low tier gets ignored by most players. This pushes the meta game to not really change.
People rate him low because almost nobody knows how to play him and unlike other characters who've changed, his playstyle entirely changed.
I feel like the only reason Roy is so low in the tier list is because of the stigma he has of being "not marth" and therefore not many people feel like experimenting with him
I am glad that Ryo is on the boat for Roy being a top 25 character. He has so much potential.
I'd love to see this video inspiring some hidden talents with Roy, or to see even Ryo himself develop our boy's metagame.
PyreWhisp check out Hyper_Kirby matches on TH-cam, best solo Roy in world
Zachary Godwin 👀
I would love to see more of this series
finally mate Roy is my boy
For a Roy main Like Myself
This is very helpful
9:56 YEE is the best name ever.
Respect that man for having the best name ever.
Who knew that a simple experimental party game could become so technical.
Pfft, people said Roy was a bad character. Our boi is good.
Most underrated character in the game.
I would of love to recommend combo for recognition, if I knew you were making this video. Amazing video anyway tho.
Your videos are always amazing. When I watch the commentaries, it haves of persons who are always saying what this combos of character is lame or pathetic. I like to play Roy. I think that many people underestimated the capacities of each.
I've been considering playing Roy even more than before. Maybe as a secondary rather than a pocket character. He just fits my play style so well! He's fast, powerful, and has combos! That's pretty much everything I'd like in a character!
4:19
"If your opponent doesn't tech"
**Gets sent into the untechable spin animation**
gooood video. i love ryo!
Great vid !!! Hoping that you could do one of these for pit/dark pit one day !!! Thanks for the contents as always !!!
I think a great movement option for roy is dashing away from your opponent, then turning around with a hop with either a empty short hop or a short hop with an attack! 5:40
You know a new video out once you start seeing an unusual amount of a character online.
(At 0% med/fast fallers/heavies Jab > d Throw > Jab > F Smash/Up B/F Tilt/Up Smash/D Smash/Side B/Nair/Fair) It's a realy good starting combo if u were able to get near to the jab range.
is it christmas or something! msc finally uploaded!
Ryo is one of my favorite smash pros out there. If you can read this I hope 2017 will bring you better tournaments and higher placings.
First you want to neutral air, then follow up with neutral air. If your opponent DI's away then use a neutral air followed up with another neutral air. If your opponent dodges fastfall into a neutral air. Another combo to use is a neutral air, into a neutral air, followed up with another neutral air.
Man i love Ryo and Sol, some of my favorite players in smash 4
Hey MSC I invented a new Fox combo a few days ago which I have named the caliber combo/cal combo (that's my new name that I've been using) it consists of an up tilt to a footstool at 30-50% then a n-air lock into another up tilt footstool Nair lock, then finish it with a double u-air at higher percents and a weak up tilt at lower percents into an auto-cancel u-air, u-air which sometimes kills. Percents differ with wait and it is a di follow 50/50 on floaters or characters with good air mobility. Hope you enjoy, and remember, it is the CALIBER COMBO!
MSC and Ryo did such a good job!
ROY'S OUR BOY!
I loved this format. Can you get more interviews bro??
Ryo's the fuckin man. Pretty much the best at all his chosen chars. STRONG-ass fundamentals