Just ordered a wrath 430x. I see a comment come up on the wrath about using a heavier arrow onnit or "you'll be sorry" im assuming that they mean you could have string or limb failers if you dont go up in weight. Ive also heard 435 grains is a good weight for this xbow. So can i just add weight in getting a heavier tip or do i need to get all new arrows that are heavier? If i do go to something heavier do i have to replace the scope with one that has speed settings?
A 400 grain arrow at 430 gives approx 164 FP of energy. I put 535 grain arrow in my Wrath 430 which includes the lighted nocks and 150 grain broadheads. Reduced speed to 400 fps. I switched to an adjustable scope and it continues to hit silver dollar groups at 50 yards. My FP energy is up to 190.
I want to see that 535 grain arrow through a chronograph with that Wrath. Every Wrath I’ve seen shooting through a chronograph wasn’t even close to 430fps with a 400 grain arrow.
@@DonFranco-z7kwhat would be a opinion on going to lite of a bolt because of limb pressure if everything a 400 recommended will 370 be pushing to lite to get that higher speed?Most people want heaver bolt more k energy but seems to me a faster speed hitting deer is just as good for shot through.
@michaelyork7844 lighter bolts can cause limb damage. It's similar effects to a dry fire. That is one of the major reasons you hear of so many cracked limbs in bow shooting over 400ft per second. 400gr should be the absolute minimum for any bow at 400ft. I would actually go around the 460- 500 gr for that bow to keep it safe.
Do the lighted knocks change your FOC? One of the reasons I switched to 125 grain field tips and broadheads was to give me some better front end balance especially if I'm using a heavier nock. Good illustration by the way
If you add tail weight you should up your FOC … I have good slow motion examples of what happens if you do not. Even if you slow this shot down to 350 FPS with a 50 yard shot it’s a certain death shot with this bow. The best bolt is center punch by ten point and they have lit knocks engineered into the bolt. I used a mechanical and have zero drift.
That seems to be too heavy, arrow alone 455gr, plus 150gr head to keep good FOC, we are at 605gr likely reduce speed a lot. I would guess it would be ‹350fps
I just today shot 456 total eight arrows and five shots chronographed averaged at 400fps
Ill stay with that.
Out of my Wrath 430X
Just ordered a wrath 430x. I see a comment come up on the wrath about using a heavier arrow onnit or "you'll be sorry" im assuming that they mean you could have string or limb failers if you dont go up in weight.
Ive also heard 435 grains is a good weight for this xbow. So can i just add weight in getting a heavier tip or do i need to get all new arrows that are heavier? If i do go to something heavier do i have to replace the scope with one that has speed settings?
A 400 grain arrow at 430 gives approx 164 FP of energy. I put 535 grain arrow in my Wrath 430 which includes the lighted nocks and 150 grain broadheads. Reduced speed to 400 fps. I switched to an adjustable scope and it continues to hit silver dollar groups at 50 yards. My FP energy is up to 190.
I want to see that 535 grain arrow through a chronograph with that Wrath.
Every Wrath I’ve seen shooting through a chronograph wasn’t even close to 430fps with a 400 grain arrow.
@@charlesbeaver5665 My speedtest: 422 FPS (370 Gr) - 407 FPS (402 Gr) - 394 FPS (463 Gr).
@@DonFranco-z7kwhat would be a opinion on going to lite of a bolt because of limb pressure if everything a 400 recommended will 370 be pushing to lite to get that higher speed?Most people want heaver bolt more k energy but seems to me a faster speed hitting deer is just as good for shot through.
@michaelyork7844 lighter bolts can cause limb damage. It's similar effects to a dry fire. That is one of the major reasons you hear of so many cracked limbs in bow shooting over 400ft per second. 400gr should be the absolute minimum for any bow at 400ft. I would actually go around the 460- 500 gr for that bow to keep it safe.
How did you get the knock out mine seem to be glued in did you boil it?
Polish your arrows and rail with turtle wax and really increase your speed!
Enjoyed the video, great points, have the same xbow & find it's a good value, consistent and fast.
It appears that you have two shoulder pads/spacers installed to adjust your LOP. Where did you get the 2nd one?
I had several laying around.
Do the lighted knocks change your FOC? One of the reasons I switched to 125 grain field tips and broadheads was to give me some better front end balance especially if I'm using a heavier nock. Good illustration by the way
also, can I ask where you picked that target up? That's sweet!
Yes….lighted nocks move FOC back so you need a proportional weight fwd as well
They sell match weighted arrows with lighted nocks
I appreciate you brother!
Good job
If you add tail weight you should up your FOC … I have good slow motion examples of what happens if you do not. Even if you slow this shot down to 350 FPS with a 50 yard shot it’s a certain death shot with this bow. The best bolt is center punch by ten point and they have lit knocks engineered into the bolt. I used a mechanical and have zero drift.
That seems to be too heavy, arrow alone 455gr, plus 150gr head to keep good FOC, we are at 605gr likely reduce speed a lot. I would guess it would be ‹350fps
I think adding a lighted nock and a 150gr head would put total weight at 479gr, would expect 380fps