What a brilliant video again. Thanks for sharing it. I was thrilled to see the SYPTE Trolleybuses there in a photo in the Doncaster depot alongside the one SYPTE had painted in Rotherham heritage trolleybus livery, (my grandfather was a Rotherham Corporation electric traction linesman and I have photos of him on the last day of Rotherham Trolleybus operations in the depot and even out and about changing the wheel on one of them). We should never have got rid of the old electric tram and trolleybus systems imo. They would have been supplemented with diesel power of course but they were very environmentally friendly. Thanks again for the memories.
@@adamlee3772 Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes I totally agree with you. Trolleybuses and even trams were the future but the infernal combustion engine was cheaper...
Many thanks. It is a great shame that privatisation stopped the South Yorkshire trolleybus project. I believe that West Yorkshire PTE were also working on plans to introduce trolleybuses and had got as far as reconditioning old overhead stanchions. How long before we get battery trolleybuses in Britain?
I absolutely love your content about buses thank you so much..I would love it if you could do something about Dennis plaxton pointer darts...the buses of my childhood...you just seem to know everything about buses and where they came from ...but either way I will look forward to your content 👌
I have a recollection that the last vehicles ordered by Crosville before the brand disappeared from England (Crosville Cymru lasted longer) were Falcons, although they ended up being delivered to North Western in red and blue livery. Rode on them regularly between Runcorn and Liverpool on the H26/H30/H31.
Having never had the opportunity to ride the Dominator Trolleybus in service, it’s on my bucket list to go to Sandtoft and (hopefully) ride it there. Great video as usual Jake 👍
@@JakeSCOC Now that you mention it, yes. Don’t know if that’s the technology at the time or intentional - during the blackout in the war, trams were known as the ‘silent killers’.
@unclenolly3207 I wonder if it was an early development of ambient noise with this one? Like they do with some electric cars. Make the motors deliberately noisy so they can be heard.
after watching this i watched some vids of arriva midlands dennis falcons. Oh what did i miss out on! the noise of the air brakes, the engine noise, the bodywork design! I would have loved to have a drive of one!
There are some preserved Dennis Dragons, the demonstrator of 11m A/C of KMB, a 9.9m A/C of KMB, a 12m Dennis Dragon non-A/C and a 12m A/C Dennis Dragon (private preservation) in HK as well.
Excellent stuff Jake as always ..... How about one now on the succeeding Lance and Arrow ? I'm a big fan of the Arrow as most of them ended up here with First Manchester at the end of their careers. ...
@@briankay4713 Thank you Brian. I was thinking about the Arrow to continue the story. That would lead into the Trident and the Dart too. What do you think?
The Leicester dominator looks just superb Jake ,did any of the KT AVE buses get preserved ,I saw them new on the 170 st the earl Spencer Roehampton back in 85 sparkling new ,the only Dennis double decker I’ve driven is a TAL on the 207 I worked at Acton tram for a few days and went back on the post 😂,Dennis long wheelbase trident president bodywork Another epic production mate Mark 😊😊 Got a lovely resin model of a china motorbus dominator cost a lot 😊
@@marksinthehouse1968 Hi Mark. The Leicester one is mint isn't it? To be honest I'm not sure about the AVE Dommies. There might be one kicking around somewhere. I'll have to make enquiries.
one of the reason that export sale is not great is they just also bought so many Jubilant and Victory Mk. II KMB bought like 350+ Jubilants and 500+ Victorys but they are so similier that I wonder did they used Jubilant for the test mule?
I unfortunately worked on optare dart Cummins 4cyl darts in Melbourne, in 2010? They were assembled by designline, after optare went out of business or something from memory? At least that's what i was told. Horrible thing with lots of design flaws. They were retired very early, like 6 years.
@@Low760 Really interesting. Optare are still with us, maybe it was a supplier that went bankrupt? Over here we joke that Optare is Latin for corrosion.
Hi Jake Been Trying To Find A Copy Of Coachmart From The 80's With Its Front Cover Stating 'Bedford Is Best Says Bob' Written By Houston Ramm There's An Old Name For You Can You Help Thank You🧐
Really enjoying your channel Jake, keep up the great work. Would be interested to see more from the North East, as in Tyne and Wear PTE. We have sadly recently lost Tyneside Heritage Vehicles who did some cracking work restoring some of the old fleet
@@scoopjeff Glad you're enjoying the channel and it's content. It was tragic what happened to Tyneside Heritage Vehicles. They had some absolutely stunning vehicles. It's the sort of thing we all dread, losing our accommodation like that. Being a child of East Kent I didn't have much contact with the north east except we shared deliveries of the Willowbrook bodied Bristol VRs with Northern General and then in the mid 80's we took a few of Northern's Atlanteans. They were my regular school bus for a while and are still one of my favourite vehicles.
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What a brilliant video again. Thanks for sharing it. I was thrilled to see the SYPTE Trolleybuses there in a photo in the Doncaster depot alongside the one SYPTE had painted in Rotherham heritage trolleybus livery, (my grandfather was a Rotherham Corporation electric traction linesman and I have photos of him on the last day of Rotherham Trolleybus operations in the depot and even out and about changing the wheel on one of them).
We should never have got rid of the old electric tram and trolleybus systems imo. They would have been supplemented with diesel power of course but they were very environmentally friendly.
Thanks again for the memories.
@@adamlee3772 Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes I totally agree with you. Trolleybuses and even trams were the future but the infernal combustion engine was cheaper...
A great video. Thank you so much.
@@scorerhome I'm glad you liked it. Thank you.
Many thanks. It is a great shame that privatisation stopped the South Yorkshire trolleybus project. I believe that West Yorkshire PTE were also working on plans to introduce trolleybuses and had got as far as reconditioning old overhead stanchions. How long before we get battery trolleybuses in Britain?
@@rolandharmer6402 It certainly was. Especially now with everything being electric.
Atleast it preserved at sandtoft trolley bus museum
What a great video.
@@DELTIC55007 Thank you
I absolutely love your content about buses thank you so much..I would love it if you could do something about Dennis plaxton pointer darts...the buses of my childhood...you just seem to know everything about buses and where they came from ...but either way I will look forward to your content 👌
@@michaelbuntine362 Thanks for your kind words Michael. I do plan to cover the Dennis Dart in this series at some point. It's certainly a classic bus.
@JakeSCOC thanks Jake has always I will stay tuned 👌
I have a recollection that the last vehicles ordered by Crosville before the brand disappeared from England (Crosville Cymru lasted longer) were Falcons, although they ended up being delivered to North Western in red and blue livery. Rode on them regularly between Runcorn and Liverpool on the H26/H30/H31.
@@lordmuntague That's very interesting. There was lots of variety around in those days of deregulation wasn't there?
@@JakeSCOC Indeed, quite a lot of livery variations as well.
Nice video 👍👍👍
Always enjoy seeing the other versions on the part 2 video...
@@craigsibley8161 Thanks Craig
9:25 many came to Australia too i believe.
@@Low760 Thanks. You're right.
Having never had the opportunity to ride the Dominator Trolleybus in service, it’s on my bucket list to go to Sandtoft and (hopefully) ride it there.
Great video as usual Jake 👍
@@unclenolly3207 Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video. Have you seen the TH-cam videos of it in action? It's surprisingly noisy.
@@JakeSCOC Now that you mention it, yes. Don’t know if that’s the technology at the time or intentional - during the blackout in the war, trams were known as the ‘silent killers’.
@unclenolly3207 I wonder if it was an early development of ambient noise with this one? Like they do with some electric cars. Make the motors deliberately noisy so they can be heard.
As usual, a well researched, well presented and informative video!
@@WOLFIE-96B-UK Thank you Wolfie
Fascinating video thanks. Would you be open to doing one on the Dennis Dart?
@@Stevenspielburger Thanks. Yes I certainly would. I'm hoping to do the Trident and the Dart eventually.
after watching this i watched some vids of arriva midlands dennis falcons. Oh what did i miss out on! the noise of the air brakes, the engine noise, the bodywork design! I would have loved to have a drive of one!
@@lucythemoggy1970 Yes I agree. It would be so nice to have a time machine so we could go back?
There are some preserved Dennis Dragons, the demonstrator of 11m A/C of KMB, a 9.9m A/C of KMB, a 12m Dennis Dragon non-A/C and a 12m A/C Dennis Dragon (private preservation) in HK as well.
@@jasonyu6649 That's great to hear. They look very impressive buses, especially the 12 meter ones.
Excellent stuff Jake as always .....
How about one now on the succeeding Lance and Arrow ? I'm a big fan of the Arrow as most of them ended up here with First Manchester at the end of their careers. ...
@@briankay4713 Thank you Brian. I was thinking about the Arrow to continue the story. That would lead into the Trident and the Dart too. What do you think?
@JakeSCOC great idea ....totally agree 👍
The Pyoneer bodied Arrows were just great looking vehicles
another fine vid Jake wish i had taken more notice of south yorks dominators
@@a11csc Thanks. Yes I wish I'd gone over to Maidstone and District to see theirs.
The Leicester dominator looks just superb Jake ,did any of the KT AVE buses get preserved ,I saw them new on the 170 st the earl Spencer Roehampton back in 85 sparkling new ,the only Dennis double decker I’ve driven is a TAL on the 207 I worked at Acton tram for a few days and went back on the post 😂,Dennis long wheelbase trident president bodywork
Another epic production mate
Mark 😊😊
Got a lovely resin model of a china motorbus dominator cost a lot 😊
@@marksinthehouse1968 Hi Mark. The Leicester one is mint isn't it? To be honest I'm not sure about the AVE Dommies. There might be one kicking around somewhere. I'll have to make enquiries.
I’m getting old hehe I meant I drove the TNL 😂trident
@@JakeSCOCyes mate thank you be nice to see one restored Jake
@@marksinthehouse1968 I think both the TAL and TNLs must both be classics by now Mark - not trying to make you feel older of course 🤣
@@JakeSCOCmate I have snow on the roof and my birth year 1968 is a golden oldie on greatest hits 60s😂😂
Maybe the reason for a single decker was the fact that the fleetline was also a single decker. The Dominator being an updated Fleetline
@@williamwatson5871 Yes more than likely.
one of the reason that export sale is not great is they just also bought so many Jubilant and Victory Mk. II KMB bought like 350+ Jubilants and 500+ Victorys
but they are so similier that I wonder did they used Jubilant for the test mule?
@@thomaschui2141 Unfortunately the Victory and Jubilant have passed me by. Were they front engine?
@yes, they both are front engined model. There is a CMB Leyland Victory MkII being preserved at Scottish Vintage Bus Museum.
@@maksuishing Ah I think I know the ones you mean. Look very rugged buses. Quite an interesting concept really.
I unfortunately worked on optare dart Cummins 4cyl darts in Melbourne, in 2010? They were assembled by designline, after optare went out of business or something from memory? At least that's what i was told. Horrible thing with lots of design flaws. They were retired very early, like 6 years.
@@Low760 Really interesting. Optare are still with us, maybe it was a supplier that went bankrupt? Over here we joke that Optare is Latin for corrosion.
Hi Jake Been Trying To Find A Copy Of Coachmart From The 80's With Its Front Cover Stating 'Bedford Is Best Says Bob' Written By Houston Ramm There's An Old Name For You Can You Help Thank You🧐
@@carabara3947 Hi. Well you've got me there. Not seen that one although the name Houston Ramm rings a bell...
Really enjoying your channel Jake, keep up the great work. Would be interested to see more from the North East, as in Tyne and Wear PTE. We have sadly recently lost Tyneside Heritage Vehicles who did some cracking work restoring some of the old fleet
@@scoopjeff Glad you're enjoying the channel and it's content. It was tragic what happened to Tyneside Heritage Vehicles. They had some absolutely stunning vehicles. It's the sort of thing we all dread, losing our accommodation like that. Being a child of East Kent I didn't have much contact with the north east except we shared deliveries of the Willowbrook bodied Bristol VRs with Northern General and then in the mid 80's we took a few of Northern's Atlanteans. They were my regular school bus for a while and are still one of my favourite vehicles.