Had a dinky Atlantean,the green and white one, and the first issue Corgi Routemaster as a kid. Our local company had 105 Early Atlanteans,59-62. The really interesting/ notorious buses PMT had, were the Daimler Roadliner single deckers, bodied by Plaxton and Marshall of Cambridge. The DMS was a failure in London, but had great second lives elsewhere, including Birmingham. Ralph Bennett had come from Manchester Corporation Transport,where he had overseen the Mancunian, so it's hardly surprising the DMS is so similar . Think my absolute favourite bus as a kid ,was my Dinky Super Bedford VAL with flashing indicators.
@@tangerinedream7211 I'd love to be let loose with a Daimler Roadliner. Never seen one, or ridden or driven one. Would be quite an interesting contrast to our AEC Swift.
Enjoyed that, Jake 👍 As a kid of the 60s, born and bred in London, this one had two Corgi and one Dinky Routemasters, a matchbox Routemaster No.5, a Matchbox Atlantean, a Matchbox DMS, a DInky AEC Swift, and the aforementioned early K15, operating doors, and bell. All are still in the fleet, and I have since acquired another, BNIB - and an Alton Towers liveried with collapsed suspension! There have been the occasion additions to such down the years. However, my first, as a toddler, and pride of place, was a Triang pull-along double decker - which I plan to sympathetically restore when I fully retire - mainly small areas paintwork, decals, and, the radiator panel.
@@thisiszaphod Glad you enjoyed it. That sounds a nice collection you have there. I keep saying about restoring some of mine too especially my Dinky roadsweeper.
When I was a young boy I used to make paper models of Atlanteans because they were easiest shape. I drew and coloured them on a sheet of paper then folded and sellotaped them into a bus shape. I had a fleet of them lol!
I had the ‘Swinging London’ bus with the bell, as well as the Silver Jubilee Routemaster and Atlantean. There was also a taxi, which I had and a Yellow Pages liveried Atlantean. Like you say, they didn’t represent the type of buses I saw in service in my area, however the SYPTE travel information shop had a carousel with models of Sheffield buses in the appropriate liveries - but sadly weren’t for sale - much to my young dismay!
@@unclenolly3207 That was the worst thing wasn't it? Seeing models of things like Nationals and them not being for sale! Our local travel office had models for sale fortunately but these were the later Corgi Plaxton Paramount and Metrobus.
Hi Jake, Dad convert a yellowpages Atlantean for my older brother by(yes you've guessed it), he painted in LCBC Lincoln Green and Yellow this was commonly seen in service across the living room floor be chased by our cat. Thanks for video Jake, its brought back some nice memories for us.
Hi i'm viatron from Sheffield once again, I still remember they were many now forgotten white metal bus & coach kits from Ambrico of Pudsey in Leeds who made a wide range of 4mm scale model buses & coaches such as the post-war Crossley DD42/8 half cab double deck bus in Oldham Corporation maroon & white livery & the Roe Pullman bodied A.E.C. Regent Mk.lll half cab double deck bus from Leeds Corporation plus it had a deep Roe D-shaped curved pointed safety staircase window on the rear offside of the bus & you must feature the very forgotten 4mm scale model bus & coach kits in your next episode of the now very forgotten white metal bus & coach editorials series on your youtube channel in the new year of 2025. & I wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New year from myself David Viatron Esquire from crookes in Sheffield.
@@ViatronTumpington Merry Christmas and Happy New Year David. The only one I remember is Pirate Kits. I bought a flat screen VR from them many years ago.
I still have all my London double deck buses from when I started collecting them when I was 5 years old all made by Matchbox when they were made in London England
I had a Carnaby Street one . Would have been around 1973 . You are correct in people collecting fleets . My fleet was a Dinky single decker , dinky Atlantean ,a couple of Routemasters from Budgie and Minic and an old dinky double decker . These were the days !
Hi Jake ,remember I’m older than you 😂,I got my K15 in 73 and loved the door opening and bell ,to be honest it looked more like a DMS GTX and you could imagine it fitted with a turbo charged 11 litre lump in the rear 😂😂,but next to my Dinky 295 which was based on a Northen counties Atlantean the dinky looked more realistic but who cared I was a 6 year old 😊and yes they done a 1977 silver jubilee K15 I have a couple plus a Charles and Diana ❤ bus ,BTW another idea for a video the Nottingham specials which were unique up until the mid 80s All the best Mark😊😊
@@marksinthehouse1968 Hi Mark, thanks for clearing that up about the silver jubilee K15. I've never seen one which considering how many I owned is crazy. I agree, compared to the Atlantean and indeed the Corgi RM the K15 was badly out of scale. I always used to pretend it was a low height bus... Good idea about the Nottingham specials.
Interesting video again, Jake. I did have one of these fairly early on, about 1972/3 and it had the bell and the opening centre door, but much later was given one in a Butterkist Brown/Yellow promotional livery, probably about 1981/2? The first diecast I really remember was the Dinky Swift/Merlin which I received for Christmas 1972 and for a little boy it was smashing and that had an opening door and a bell if I recall correctly. On the subject of Londoners, I had about 3 of the smaller Matchbox version, which although smaller seemed to have better detail in some respects, two of them were LT red but one of them (must have got this one several years later) was in SYPTE brown. All long gone now I'm afraid.
@@2002barneyf Glad you enjoyed the video. I remember the butterkist one but never had it. That Dinky Merlin looked a lovely bus, in fact most Dinky toys were brilliant as they were models of British vehicles wmyou could see out on the road. I only had the ERF fire engines, the London taxi, the roadsweeper and the Ford Transit ambulance but they were treasured. If I recall, the smaller DMS was of the later type with the wider headlights. They also introduced a B15 Titan in this range too.
@@JakeSCOC I remember getting a B15 later but I didn't think the detail was as good as the earlier Fleetline - however I had three of the Dinky Atlanteans, two in Yellow Pages livery and one in red with a white bustle for Kennings - they were very detailed for their time (based on the Selnec/GMPTE Standards I think?). Now I could go on for ever about toy buses from the 70's but I'll leave it with memories of the Duple Viceroy coach (I had one in blue and one in yellow- I think these were Corgi?) and one Christmas I was spoilt with a Bedford VAL with front 'suspension' and moving front wheels, but not the one with working indicator lights - that was before my time - and don't get me started on plastic friction powered buses, there were some corkers there!
@2002barneyf Oh yes the plastic friction powered ones were larger scale ones of the Dinky ones I think. I remember a Routemaster (complete with driver and conductor), early PDR Atlantean and a Bedford VAL with Bella Vega bodywork.
I remember as a kid trying to convert the rear ends and remove those shrouds to resemble our buses same with the smaller matchbox deckers as you can Imagine the end result it didn't end well lol
@JakeSCOC yea lol I agree but remember I was probably around 11 years old I just thought I want them to look like our fleets , EFE eventually came around years later for some code 3 work 👍
I was given a commemorative silver jubilee bus after attending a street party in 1977 for the Queen's silver jubilee, I'm sure it was a small Matchbox model. I did have an AEC Merlin too I believe,think that was a Dinky model.
I had the standard size London bus, with Berger Paints on the join, which underneath said Londoner. Until I was given that, I thought that all London buses were the Routemaster design. I am now refusing to go by bus, until they put real busses on again.
I don't lnow if the K15 Londoner was ever released in Silver Jubilee livery but the 1-75 (No.17) version was, which I still have as well as the Corgi Routemaster
My first K15 got decapitated, not by a toy low bridge but by my toddler self! My parents still laugh about me copying my Dad and calling it "halfabus"! It was replaced with another with I think the Carnaby St ad and I've also still got a royal wedding one too sadly without box!
This FIT THE BOX scale bus is probably the worst ever, but I guess was affordable. The 1-75 Londoner Bus as a DMS was not a bad model at all though - and came in some liveries like CIEish Jacobs all over advertisement. The later smaller one was as Leyland Titan rather than Fleetline, and again this was a good model (as was the preceeding "provincial - sheffield?? - Fleetline ).
@@highpath4776 And I'd totally forgotten about that other strange Fleetline. Wasn't it a Hong Kong one? I seem to recall a single width front door on it?
@@JakeSCOC check the pictures. The 1-75 Fleetline (though its not much different from an Atlantean) appeared to me to be a Sheffield destination display but might have been another place I am not aware of or forget ( Middlesborough/Teeside? ) China Motor Bus might have had similar , bodywork feels like Park Royal ( only by elimination of Northern Counties/Alexander/Roe/Weymann/ECW/MetroCammell).
@@JakeSCOC There are some real chinese made oddities of routemasters and londoner types in poundland or similar. The cheap small and mid sized borismaster ones though are fairly reasonable representations)
Hi Jake, Thanks for this interesting video. I too as an owner of a fleet of model buses 🚌 always on the lookout to improve their authenticity. Jake, In your list of contacts, have you ever found the availability of 1:76 OO scale number plates made to order ?? (white on black rectangular and square). Many Thanks, Bob 🚌 🚍
@@robertmatthews8302 The only number plates I've come across were the ones that were in the old Tower Kits if you remember those. When EFE were first released without number plates I used these non authentic ones to fill in the blanks. I believe there's some availability of them on ebay although I've not bought them personally.
There's one or two manufacturers make number plates for model buses; check out the model bus zone website for more detail. If you want them custom made you can go down the route of waterslide decal paper (white paper with a black background). Can be a bit of a faff but doable
Nice trip down memory lane 👍👍👍
Loved the matchbox toys as a kid in the late 70s early 80s. Looking forward to the Foden NC, i voted for that one...
@@craigsibley8161 Glad you enjoyed it Craig. Only one day to wait and you can watch it.
Had a dinky Atlantean,the green and white one, and the first issue Corgi Routemaster as a kid.
Our local company had 105 Early Atlanteans,59-62.
The really interesting/ notorious buses PMT had, were the Daimler Roadliner single deckers, bodied by Plaxton and Marshall of Cambridge.
The DMS was a failure in London, but had great second lives elsewhere, including Birmingham.
Ralph Bennett had come from Manchester Corporation Transport,where he had overseen the Mancunian, so it's hardly surprising the DMS is so similar .
Think my absolute favourite bus as a kid ,was my Dinky Super Bedford VAL with flashing indicators.
@@tangerinedream7211 I'd love to be let loose with a Daimler Roadliner. Never seen one, or ridden or driven one. Would be quite an interesting contrast to our AEC Swift.
Enjoyed that, Jake 👍
As a kid of the 60s, born and bred in London, this one had two Corgi and one Dinky Routemasters, a matchbox Routemaster No.5, a Matchbox Atlantean, a Matchbox DMS, a DInky AEC Swift, and the aforementioned early K15, operating doors, and bell. All are still in the fleet, and I have since acquired another, BNIB - and an Alton Towers liveried with collapsed suspension! There have been the occasion additions to such down the years.
However, my first, as a toddler, and pride of place, was a Triang pull-along double decker - which I plan to sympathetically restore when I fully retire - mainly small areas paintwork, decals, and, the radiator panel.
@@thisiszaphod Glad you enjoyed it. That sounds a nice collection you have there. I keep saying about restoring some of mine too especially my Dinky roadsweeper.
I had one of those when younger plus a various collection of the Routemaster.
@@markcf83 What RMs did you have?
When I was a young boy I used to make paper models of Atlanteans because they were easiest shape. I drew and coloured them on a sheet of paper then folded and sellotaped them into a bus shape. I had a fleet of them lol!
@@WOLFIE-96B-UK That's brilliant Wolfie.
I had the ‘Swinging London’ bus with the bell, as well as the Silver Jubilee
Routemaster and Atlantean. There was also a taxi, which I had and a Yellow Pages liveried Atlantean.
Like you say, they didn’t represent the type of buses I saw in service in my area, however the SYPTE travel information shop had a carousel with models of Sheffield buses in the appropriate liveries - but sadly weren’t for sale - much to my young dismay!
@@unclenolly3207 That was the worst thing wasn't it? Seeing models of things like Nationals and them not being for sale! Our local travel office had models for sale fortunately but these were the later Corgi Plaxton Paramount and Metrobus.
Hi Jake, Dad convert a yellowpages Atlantean for my older brother by(yes you've guessed it), he painted in LCBC Lincoln Green and Yellow this was commonly seen in service across the living room floor be chased by our cat. Thanks for video Jake, its brought back some nice memories for us.
@@jadeboswell-rz2ly Hi Jade. Glad you both enjoyed it.
Hi i'm viatron from Sheffield once again, I still remember they were many now forgotten white metal bus & coach kits from Ambrico of Pudsey in Leeds who made a wide range of 4mm scale model buses & coaches such as the post-war Crossley DD42/8 half cab double deck bus in Oldham Corporation maroon & white livery & the Roe Pullman bodied A.E.C. Regent Mk.lll half cab double deck bus from Leeds Corporation plus it had a deep Roe D-shaped curved pointed safety staircase window on the rear offside of the bus & you must feature the very forgotten 4mm scale model bus & coach kits in your next episode of the now very forgotten white metal bus & coach editorials series on your youtube channel in the new year of 2025. & I wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New year from myself David Viatron Esquire from crookes in Sheffield.
@@ViatronTumpington Merry Christmas and Happy New Year David. The only one I remember is Pirate Kits. I bought a flat screen VR from them many years ago.
I still have all my London double deck buses from when I started collecting them when I was 5 years old all made by Matchbox when they were made in London England
@@tonymento7460 How many do you have Tony?
I have around 30 of these wonderful vehicle's. Some have a bell too.
@@rikkilamb Oh wow. That's amazing when you think some are over 50 years old.
I had a Carnaby Street one . Would have been around 1973 . You are correct in people collecting fleets . My fleet was a Dinky single decker , dinky Atlantean ,a couple of Routemasters from Budgie and Minic and an old dinky double decker . These were the days !
@@russellbenton2987 I'm glad I wasn't the only one Russell. I'd have loved a Dinky Atlantean as a kid. I had to wait until I was grown up to get one.
Hi Jake ,remember I’m older than you 😂,I got my K15 in 73 and loved the door opening and bell ,to be honest it looked more like a DMS GTX and you could imagine it fitted with a turbo charged 11 litre lump in the rear 😂😂,but next to my Dinky 295 which was based on a Northen counties Atlantean the dinky looked more realistic but who cared I was a 6 year old 😊and yes they done a 1977 silver jubilee K15 I have a couple plus a Charles and Diana ❤ bus ,BTW another idea for a video the Nottingham specials which were unique up until the mid 80s
All the best
Mark😊😊
@@marksinthehouse1968 Hi Mark, thanks for clearing that up about the silver jubilee K15. I've never seen one which considering how many I owned is crazy. I agree, compared to the Atlantean and indeed the Corgi RM the K15 was badly out of scale. I always used to pretend it was a low height bus...
Good idea about the Nottingham specials.
@@JakeSCOCsee us professional drivers are like a big family (well use to be working the road etc now they scratch 😂)
@marksinthehouse1968 That is so true Mark. I'm lucky as where I work is still like that despite being a national group.
I had the Carnaby street one, with opening doors and bell. It received several poorly painted livery changes as I got a bit older
I think most of mine were poorly painted too.
Interesting video again, Jake. I did have one of these fairly early on, about 1972/3 and it had the bell and the opening centre door, but much later was given one in a Butterkist Brown/Yellow promotional livery, probably about 1981/2? The first diecast I really remember was the Dinky Swift/Merlin which I received for Christmas 1972 and for a little boy it was smashing and that had an opening door and a bell if I recall correctly.
On the subject of Londoners, I had about 3 of the smaller Matchbox version, which although smaller seemed to have better detail in some respects, two of them were LT red but one of them (must have got this one several years later) was in SYPTE brown. All long gone now I'm afraid.
@@2002barneyf Glad you enjoyed the video. I remember the butterkist one but never had it.
That Dinky Merlin looked a lovely bus, in fact most Dinky toys were brilliant as they were models of British vehicles wmyou could see out on the road. I only had the ERF fire engines, the London taxi, the roadsweeper and the Ford Transit ambulance but they were treasured.
If I recall, the smaller DMS was of the later type with the wider headlights. They also introduced a B15 Titan in this range too.
@@JakeSCOC I remember getting a B15 later but I didn't think the detail was as good as the earlier Fleetline - however I had three of the Dinky Atlanteans, two in Yellow Pages livery and one in red with a white bustle for Kennings - they were very detailed for their time (based on the Selnec/GMPTE Standards I think?). Now I could go on for ever about toy buses from the 70's but I'll leave it with memories of the Duple Viceroy coach (I had one in blue and one in yellow- I think these were Corgi?) and one Christmas I was spoilt with a Bedford VAL with front 'suspension' and moving front wheels, but not the one with working indicator lights - that was before my time - and don't get me started on plastic friction powered buses, there were some corkers there!
@2002barneyf Oh yes the plastic friction powered ones were larger scale ones of the Dinky ones I think. I remember a Routemaster (complete with driver and conductor), early PDR Atlantean and a Bedford VAL with Bella Vega bodywork.
Living in Reading it was frustrating that there were no model buses resembling the non standard buses we had in our fleet.
@@00simonwise Yes you were unfortunate there. It was only really when the Metrobus came out and also the Metropolitan that you were catered for.
Hello loved the K15. Yes they definitely did a 1977 silver jubilee one. I have one new in its box.😊
@@rosspeacock2956 I've only just discovered this. I think my childhood was deprived!
I've got one too somewhere
I had the Carnaby street one, though the sticker was very faded. Got it from a charity shop in the mid to late 90's
@@melvy211 I think the stickers were quick poor quality.
I remember as a kid trying to convert the rear ends and remove those shrouds to resemble our buses same with the smaller matchbox deckers as you can Imagine the end result it didn't end well lol
@@stevedickson5853 They were a bit too square on the engine bonnet to be convincing weren't they with the shroud removed?
@JakeSCOC yea lol I agree but remember I was probably around 11 years old I just thought I want them to look like our fleets , EFE eventually came around years later for some code 3 work 👍
I was given a commemorative silver jubilee bus after attending a street party in 1977 for the Queen's silver jubilee, I'm sure it was a small Matchbox model. I did have an AEC Merlin too I believe,think that was a Dinky model.
@@davefarrow4351 That's a lovely memory to have Dave. Was the silver jubilee model a Routemaster?
@ Hi, it was a Fleetline, a small one.
@davefarrow4351 I think I know the one you mean. A small DMS.
@ Yeah, it had overly big wheels and was in Watchbox’s Superfast range, wish I’d kept it but it got played with and lost alas.
@davefarrow4351 As they all did eh?
A big fleet of them
@@tonymento7460 They're fun aren't they?
I had the standard size London bus, with Berger Paints on the join, which underneath said Londoner. Until I was given that, I thought that all London buses were the Routemaster design. I am now refusing to go by bus, until they put real busses on again.
@@petermostyneccleston2884 I don't blame you Peter although you might have a bit of a wait.
I don't lnow if the K15 Londoner was ever released in Silver Jubilee livery but the 1-75 (No.17) version was, which I still have as well as the Corgi Routemaster
@@andyaccount Yes I remember the smaller one as I had one of those. Was of the later style DMS.
The matchbox 1-75 smaller bus was much more like a proper DMS later they done really nice titan
@@marksinthehouse1968 Yes they were better models but annoyingly small.
The Dinky Red Arrow and Atlantean were avalible in "Kit/CKD" form, though still not cheap
@@highpath4776 I didn't know that but it makes sense. They only screwed together didn't they?
@@JakeSCOC yes, but they were a pain to paint, the kit AEC Merlin at least meant you could do a london contry version
@@JakeSCOC The Atlantean Kit came with paint to make a National Express 1974 Ribble type coach
I've got several of the Londoner models.
@@johnUB4478 Can you remember which ones you had?
@JakeSCOC I've still got them. I've got several different ones. Some red, some silver.
had quite a few of them Jake
@@a11csc Good days eh?
My first K15 got decapitated, not by a toy low bridge but by my toddler self! My parents still laugh about me copying my Dad and calling it "halfabus"! It was replaced with another with I think the Carnaby St ad and I've also still got a royal wedding one too sadly without box!
@@kevinbargery2261 😂 To be fair they were only held together with a clip and a couple of rivets.
@@JakeSCOC definitely not toddler proof🤣
@kevinbargery2261 🤣🤣 nope
Didnt Lledo do a larger Titan at a reasonable price ?
@@highpath4776 They may well have done. I know they did a slightly larger Olympian.
This FIT THE BOX scale bus is probably the worst ever, but I guess was affordable. The 1-75 Londoner Bus as a DMS was not a bad model at all though - and came in some liveries like CIEish Jacobs all over advertisement. The later smaller one was as Leyland Titan rather than Fleetline, and again this was a good model (as was the preceeding "provincial - sheffield?? - Fleetline ).
@@highpath4776 That's exactly what they did - fit the box! But cheap. You certainly couldn't release it now and expect it to sell eh?
@@highpath4776 And I'd totally forgotten about that other strange Fleetline. Wasn't it a Hong Kong one? I seem to recall a single width front door on it?
@@JakeSCOC check the pictures. The 1-75 Fleetline (though its not much different from an Atlantean) appeared to me to be a Sheffield destination display but might have been another place I am not aware of or forget ( Middlesborough/Teeside? ) China Motor Bus might have had similar , bodywork feels like Park Royal ( only by elimination of Northern Counties/Alexander/Roe/Weymann/ECW/MetroCammell).
@@JakeSCOC There are some real chinese made oddities of routemasters and londoner types in poundland or similar. The cheap small and mid sized borismaster ones though are fairly reasonable representations)
@highpath4776 I've not really noticed those, I'll have to go and look.
Hi Jake, Thanks for this interesting video. I too as an owner of a fleet of model buses 🚌 always on the lookout to improve their authenticity.
Jake,
In your list of contacts, have you ever found the availability of 1:76 OO scale number plates made to order ?? (white on black rectangular and square).
Many Thanks, Bob 🚌 🚍
'Mandatory' font - print you own!
@@robertmatthews8302 The only number plates I've come across were the ones that were in the old Tower Kits if you remember those. When EFE were first released without number plates I used these non authentic ones to fill in the blanks. I believe there's some availability of them on ebay although I've not bought them personally.
@@JakeSCOCThanks for your reply
There's one or two manufacturers make number plates for model buses; check out the model bus zone website for more detail. If you want them custom made you can go down the route of waterslide decal paper (white paper with a black background). Can be a bit of a faff but doable
@superted6960 Thanks for that info 🚌 🚍 !