Unfortunately it was Ren and Stimpy. I am easily grossed out and the comedy and content just didn't appeal to me. I was also not a fan of Real Monsters (I think that was the name), because the character designs creaped me out.
I like adult things, not because they're adult, but because of the lack of censorship. There's a difference in showing the nasty and BEING the nasty, know what I mean?
2 good things about APC 1. It started the career of Eric Bauza 2. One of the episodes became an inspiration to the whole lost episode genre in creepypasta.
A lot of the reasons the show isn't as good as the original is because Bob Camp worked with John K. on the original show. Camp kept everything focused and made sure things didn't go too far. To be honest, it seemed like sometimes censorship is a good thing because it forces you to find smarter and more creative ways to tell stories and jokes without stooping to the lowest common denominator.
It wasn't censorship so much as keeping John K on a leash. Censorship would be editing out stuff one doesn't like *after* the release. It's about controlling what people see and hear. That's why most people are against censorship.
@TurkeyToast No argument there. Tried watching it, was not impressed or entertained. It was too vulgar and mean-spirited for my liking. And the gross out went way too far.
I for one *_love_* Ren & Stimpy: AP. No idea why apparently no one else did. And this video doesn't really elucidate it either. Maybe fans actually got _too old_ for it? I sure didn't. :shrugs: 😌
Some people work better when being given limits. John K had no idea what he wanted to show to be about, So he just made a show about playing with the limits he was imposed with
As for the answer to your last question- APC was both Johs middle finger, and his true vision. Reen Seeks Help, and Stimpy's Pregnant were actually unused concepts, and loose ideas unused from the original. Thankfully, Nick turned these ideas down. APC only revealed that Nick's executive meddling was actually the originals saving grace. It was great because Nick kept certain shit in line. Vanessa Coffey is also one of the large reasons why the original Ren was such a great character, and why he and the earlier episodes had the good amount of heart that they did. It really saddens me to know what Johns true vision for Ren and Stimpy was. An abusive, co-dependent relationship, with no substance, and sloppy animation with no plots, and just a bunch of nonsense. It saddens me even more that APC destroyed the possibility for Ren and Stimpy to ever make a real comeback, outside of Nick sports games.
"REN & STIMPY" can come back but it must be without John K's involvement and it even could have a couple of gags used as a "Take That" against John K and "APC". A ton of others worked on the original and John K's involvement was very minimal. TIME TO LIBERATE THAT DERANGED CHIHUAHUA AND HIS LOVABLE DOOFUS KITTY BUDDY FROM THAT TEEN-MOLESTING PSYCHO!
I remember watching the first episode premiere as a kid. I was 13, I stayed up late...they lived in a homeless man's mouth & discussed "givers & takers"...it's still a story I can never forget.
The only reason why i know about this show existence is because people would take raunchy clips from it, post it online, and be like “This is a scene from the original Ren and Stimpy cartoon!! How did Nickelodeon get away with this??”.
I was born too late for it I think (2000), but as a teenager I watched some of the show because I was curious and most of what I have seen was straight up nightmare fuel. I'm an adult now and it still creeps me out. I don't know how there were little 5 year olds enjoying that crap.
@@PearlFirexx I watched it but my dad would tell me not to. I was confused because it was on Nick and he would tell me it’s not a kids show. I get it now but yeah this is way worse than the og.
Exactly! The gross-outs should be incidental and not THE FOCUS. "REN & STIMPY" worked best when the crossness was minimal and it relied on wacky, satire and just being silly. Also, in the original, Ren & Stimpy...while they were profoundly dysfunctional, still were buddies who cared about each other deep down (in a weird, twisted sort of way). If Ren was being abusive, it was for good reason and simply a matter of him overreacting rather than sadism. Some of the best humor didn't involve extreme gross-outs at all...That silly "Happy Helmet", the nature show spoof (the 'Frilled Ren' was adorable), the space adventure with the red button, etc. --- However, John K is an idiot and assumed everyone liked "R & S" for the gross-outs. I don't buy his "I was forced into it by Spike" for one second. The Emperor has no clothes and his later offering bear this out. "REN & STIMPY" was awesome DESPITE John K not because of him. "REN & STIMPY" can come back and be great again without ANY of John K's involvement! --- JOHN KRISFALUSI IS AN "EEEDIOT!" AND A "BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM!".
One problem, his distinctive voice for ren stands out from all the others. John Kricfalusi is Ren Hoek, I'd rather keep the original Ren & Stimpy without any new version being made and let APC fade to black.
The problem is, Kricfalsui is so poisoned by toxic masculinity that he thought pathos was anathema to Ren and Stimpy. That's why they did that one cartoon where Stimpy falls in love with a fart, to prove some point about how fake pathos in animation is. Unsurprisingly, fans have rejected this read for the nihilistic bullcrap it is.
It’s like John K’s. older issues with Nick was one of the few instances in television history where the network executives were actually in the right (i.e. “Hey, maybe this episode’s a bit too much. Try and tone it down a bit, please” or “John, you’re taking way too long.”). Then again, maybe I’m just salty about a dude who treated his employees, his underage female fans and the people around him like absolute garbage. Honestly, this spin off was probably an opportunity for him to show his true colors as a human being: Vile and grotesque.
As an adult female that is into more "male-oriented" things, I was a fan of the original Ren & Stimpy that was on Nickelodeon. When I first heard about the DVDs coming out, advertising "lost episodes", I was thinking that it was just a case of episodes that were deemed "not kid-friendly" and had been produced years later for the now grown-up audience that had watched the show before. Boy... was I wrong. I could barely get through two episodes, and I have since then blocked out everything that I saw/heard while watching them.
Ren and Stimpy feels like this inside joke I was never in on because I was born in the middle of the 90s and barely caught reruns of it but I damn saw its influence everywhere. Even Stephen Hillenburg made a tiny doodle of them in his notebook - but God, I love the art direction of earlier seasons.
I think it was that ren and stimpy was supposed to be a kids show but to also cater to adults at the same time and made ren and stimpy stand out so well at the time.
No, what people seem to forget or they were too young to know, is that it originally aired on MTV and was made for adults. Nickelodeon got hold of it, censored it from its original version, and pretty much ruined it for the original fans. It’s now difficult to even find the original, MTV versions; only the Nickelodeon kiddy episodes are available.
Every time you sprinkled in a clip from the 90s Ren and Stimpy to mock the Adult Party cartoon it gave me so much joy- having the occasional palette cleanse was much appreciated! And the comparisons just made me love the original even more
I forgot how even the colour palette of APC was disgusting to look at Speaking of Ren and Stimpy, I really hope the new revival they’re doing will bring back the original spirit of the show as well as heal R&S reputation after APC basically killed it. I’m hoping the team working on it give John K one big ‘F You’ with it (the idea of a R&S show without his involvement must already piss him off)
@@ExtremeWreck not APC, but without him ren & stimpy simply wouldn't exist. You can't deny someone's skills solely based on their person. Separating art from artist is a constant thing i have to do with this series
The original Ren and Stimpy, particularly the early seasons, were already so dark and twisted that they basically defined the line for what's acceptable viewing material and what isn't. Allowing the twisted mind of John K to produce an unleashed version of this show when NICKELODEON could barely keep him to the basest levels of human decency was one of those things you look at in retrospect and think "what the ever loving hell went through the executive's minds?"
I remember being so excited to see that Ren and Stimpy were coming back. I actually tuned in to the premiere episode when it aired. My problem was that the humor tried too hard to be edgy. By the time you had Ren freak out on Stimpy by saying, "How many times do I have to remind you? I'm the pitcher! You're the catcher!" I figured that the show wasn't the show I was thought it would be. The original series had some edgy humor to it, but I think being on a kid's network made it walk a fine line that actually made it funny because of how they had to work around that limitation. This was just basically John K going, "Now that I'm not doing this for a kid's network, I'm going to make it as offensive as possible." and shoehorn in a bunch of unfunny edgy jokes for the sake of it.
I absolutely LOVED the original Ren & Stimpy - and saw all of the adult versions, and agree they were absolutely unwatchable. In the original, Stimpy was a brilliant inventor and his character was innocent. In the adult versions, Stimpy is just stupid and banal. It is as though John K. wanted to create his ultimate F*U middle finger to everyone in the industry who had turned on him. I once thought John K. was brilliant. Now I think he’s a pervy creep who is into young girls and that all the fun, joy, and humour of the original series had almost nothing to do with John K.
I was a huge R&S fan back in the 90s so i was super excited about them coming back in 2003. I was on the edge of my seat for the first episode. It was so bad i didnt even watch the whole thing & never even bothered to see when the rest aired. It even kinda ruined the old episodes, i dont know if ive watched any R&S since. In order to do a good job, John K needs limits imposed on him from outside, if you cut him loose you get shit.
As someone who saw stripperella and this in my teens, this show was the worse of the two. Sure it has better animation, but it is an insult to the original series.
I've heard Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon is just awful and it's definitely one of the far worst 2000s cartoons of all time. It is infamous for its episode Ren Seeks Help. I've only seen some bits of it on TH-cam and it's absolutely horrific. Ren is seen torturing the poor innocent frog, removing the caterpillar's legs and killing the ants by burning. At the end of the same episode, he starts attacking and killing Mr. Horse as he goes completely mad. I thought I had no idea why the American company Viacom (now ViacomCBS) decided to make an adult spin-off of the popular 90s cartoon. They should be absolutely ashamed of this terrible spin-off. I'm not gonna watch Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon anymore. Anyway good night 🌃 from Ireland 🇮🇪
From what I hear, Ren Seeks Help was inspired by real life events in John K's life. Not to mention I think it was also made to be absolutely gross and abhorrent at the behest of a fan.
@@SaiyanGamer95 The sad thing is the Original already had an episode similar to that and miles better. Remember the Jimmty Lummox episode? That was the one where Ren did horrible things because he literally didn't have a conscious. Stimpy decided to lend his conscious to him and whenever Ren did something terrible, his conscious would literally beat up on him. It was one of my favorites as a kid.
But on the bright side, it inspired the writer of the creepypasta "Red mist". Just think about it. Both stories are about a lost episode of a popular Nickelodeon show that is somehow really disturbing and included extremely violent scenes. Except Ren seeks help was released in 2003 and Red mist was made in 2005.
I reviewed APC for a blog I used to contribute to, I still remember writing about how Stimpy became pregnant and Ren's first reaction was to grab a wire hanger... I followed it up with "Feel free to take a few minutes, lord knows I did."
I was so pumped for Adult Party Ren & Stimpy back on the day. As a huge fan of the Nickelodeon original I had high hopes....Boy! was I disappointed. Almost from the start it flew off the rails. I wish I could wipe it from my memory.
Damn is it really that disgusting to watch? It almost seems unreal a cartoon could be that bad, I actually want to watch it just to see how disgusting it really is lol
@@megacide84 I just watched some clips on TH-cam and you’re absolutely right. Wtf were they thinking it’s absolutely atrocious and makes me feel so weird about the original show now 😩
I watched the adult cartoon when I was 16, and it traumatized my teenage psyche in ways I wish it hadn't. It introduced me to things in the adult world I should NOT have seen at that age. Nothing has come even remotely close to horrifying me as this show did, not even in a good way like the original. Now, it's 10 years later. The show still makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
I hope the reboot has a villainous character modeled after Krisfalusi that Ren & Stumpy clobber or something. Call him "Jerk Grosskowski World's Worst Cartoonist". Jerk would take over the reins of Ren & Stimpy's fave in-universe cartoon show only to butcher it. Ren & Stimpy then got out to stop him and many gags referencing (albeit more tactfully) junk from "APC", "Cans Without Labels" and that "Pee Boner" nonsense.
I actually watched the entire thing from the time it came out to the time it got cancelled. I was 10 and I had already been in love with the original show. It left a bad taste in my mouth and it was hard to watch the original show afterwards.
The clip right off the bat where Ren is pulling out the nerves from his gums... I actually physically cringed and felt the pain from that, and I hate that it exists...
I remember when John K got fired in the early 90's they interviewed him in Cenimatique (?) Magazine in 1992 and they listed off a bunch of episodes that Nickelodeon rejected in 1991 and two of those episodes ended up being "Onwards & Upwards" and "Altruists" and they included quotes from the script & storyboard that ended up in the Adult Party Cartoons over a decade later. I think if Vanessa Coffey let him do them for Nickelodeon but made him tone it down a bit, they would have ended up being better episodes. When John K is left to his own devices unchecked, he tends to ruin things.
I loved Ren and Stimpy cartoons in the first half they produced. Yeah, its a shame they had to get over board with things that made ya want to barf. I liked the sexual innuendos, as long as they didn't over step things. South Park movie over stepped that and I hated it too. Its a shame that they felt like they had to go over board with things.
What's really funny about this entire show, it was intended as one of the grand entrees to re-introduce The New TNN as Spike TV, _now called Paramount Network,_ but Adult Party Cartoon was cancelled before they fully incorporated the Spike TV handle, meaning the only time it aired, the network was still using the TNN screenbug and the TNN production logo. The show died _that fast._
Adult party cartoon came at the wrong time on the wrong channel. It's still funny. Billy is talented, but Ren and Stimpy is the only reason I know his name. John K may be a creep, but still an insanely talented creep. Weirdos are way more interesting than average minds. Facts.
Yeah this pretty much nails it on the head with APC. I will say I do genuinely like the Firedogs part II Episode. It has a lot of the major flaws with the other episodes for sure but actually has a good amount of classic Ren & Stimpy style humor. My favorite part is Stimpy playing the pan flute and Rens little dance. Plus the fire chief character was pretty funny. But beyond that episode I wish this show never existed.
I have to say this every time I see one of these APC reviews. John K is the worst thing to happen to R&S. He created them, yeah, but for the most part he wasn't there to work on the show. He wanted perfection and had high demands, but Nickelodeon got tired of him not showing up to work, so they eventually got rid of him due to deadlines. APC happened, and the same thing happened again. He wasn't showing up to work. Except this time Nickelodeon couldn't step in and continue without him. The staff had to work on the show without John K. John K deliberately designed APC to appeal to the dumbest people, saying something like "they're so stupid they won't even realize how bad it is". That design, PLUS he wasn't showing up to oversee the project, and that was the result. The guy had TWO chances to make R&S a success. And he failed both times. The guy only worked on season 1 and 2 of the original, and season 1 was only 6 episodes long. Nickelodeon did three other season PLUS the original two without him. He deserves no credit for R&S and they need to quit letting him touch that franchise.
I grew up watching the original show on a small black and white TV and it was one of my favorite cartoons. When the spike TV show was announced I was interested until I saw the first episode.
Now that I've seen the full series, I can understand why so many loved it and as a new fan have taken the oath to never bring apc ever again and hope others never learn about it.
I kinda knew of it but never seen it and didn’t know it was so bad it only lasted a day. But yes it definitely sounds like the creator was trying to get revenge or some weird thing. I grew up watching the original and heck even my mom did as well ,up until the episode about either Stimpy’s nose goblin collection or his scab collection lol. She was able to stomach the grossness till then. A lot of our younger coworkers would be shocked when she would start singing the Happy Happy Joy Joy song and also kinda repulsed that she let us watch it lol. My brother and I got lucky that my folks didn’t censor almost everything from us. ( granted something’s had to wait till we where older, but not a silly cartoon)
Didn't know it existed. Never was a fan of the OG. Hell, I never saw it as "for kids" but rather adults in the same vein as South Park and Family Guy or some of the Adult Swim.....fever dream shows.
I actually really liked the adult show. However i do think it would do better now, especially on at 3am on adult swim. Love the new content homie. ❤️ hope you are well!
@@caucasoidape8838 As hated as that episode is , it's the ONLY episode that deserves the Adult tag in the show. The rest of APC is mostly nonsense but that episode is to me what the entire show should have been about, psychological dark humor.
John K. had another short lived cartoon that aired on Fox Saturday mornings call The Ripping Friends that I honestly can't believe was ever allowed in that block.
I almost forgot these episodes existence... Good job on the edits Jordan (as stupid as that compliment may sound) it really brought out the best in some of the worst Ren and Stimpy Episodes out there!
My least favorite Nickelodeon show, was definitely Rocket Power. It was boring bland, and largely forgettable. Its one of those shows I watched when nothing else was on.
@@th3azscorpio true. It still wasn’t that good for me either way. The only thing I liked about the show was Nigel, mostly because of the memes and how he sounds 😂
Not only that, but Joseph Barbera hated on how John Kricfalusi ruined Yogi Bear with its shorts, Boo Boo Runs Wild and A day in the life of Ranger Smith. After seeing how gross this shorts turned out, Joseph Barbera was angry and wanted Kricfalusi dead.
lol maybe so, because Yogi Bear was supposed to be a quirky wholesome show with a few nods to adult humor...Kricfalusi basically did a grotesque parody of Yogi and the ranger and it IS HILARIOUS... 😂 Sorry you and Joe didn't like it...🤷🏻♂️
in my country,all the episodes were dubbed(with the same VAs from the original cartoon coming back) and broadcasted on VH1,probably long before the americans could see them in their own country on DVD!
I blame Ralph Bakshi. He had a hand in that show. And he was the one who tried to take it to that level. He was trying to make ren and stempy into another fritz the cat. He is the one who pushed the infamous "You're the catcher! I'm the pitcher!" Scene. I think that one scene is what doomed the whole show.
Eh. I don't think that's his fault for letting John K took inspiration from his work. Fritz The Cat is an odd movie, but if it wasn't for Ralph Bakshi, then adult animation wouldn't be a thing by now.
i remember watching all 6 episodes of this show a few years ago because I was going through ren and stimpy at the time and thought of giving this show a try but it was genuinely terrible, not a single episode was even close to being good (shit like naked beach frenzy gotta be one of the worst episodes of anything I’ve seen) the unfortunate thing is that this show has very good animation, love the backgrounds and character animations (despite the fact the sound design is usually awful and constantly overuses stock sound effects with bad audio mixing) and I dont think an adult version of ren and stimpy is inherently a bad idea, but the writing has to be good and this show’s writing was absolutely NOT good lmao
I remember watching one of the episodes and it was Ren torturing some poor frog for however long the episode was. The whole thing came off as sadistic, especially after being a fan of the original series when I was a kid. Didn't dig it.
How no mention of POWDERED TOAST MAN!!! >XD Loved the Original hated the remake, Hopefully you have a Rocko's Modern life vid floating around here somewhere
APC was the revival spinoff that should have never happened. If I could mandela effect it out existence, and have it be just a fever dream, I would. It was just Johns massive middle finger to Nick for firing him, and driving his creation into the ground; when ironically he once again fucked himself over, did the same to his franchise. It almost killed the entire, along with Johns later sex abuse allegations. The show was also Johns way to indulge his sick perversions, and expose his mentality, without anyone to reign him in check. What made the show unlikable, was of course the over the top, extreme grossout. The over the top nonsensical stories, and lack of substance. Shitty pacing, and the complete bastardization of the characters is what made this series fail hard. It lacked the heart and care of the original. I remember staying up to watch it back in 03 when it premiered, and thinking "wtf is this?!" It just felt so wrong, and too far removed from the original. The magic of the original show was just gone.
No bro watch any of his web shows or independent cartoons. All his cartoons are like APC. As much as we hate to admit it Nick made Ren and stimpy good.
Part of the fun of the original Ren & Stimpy was seeing what they could get away with on a children's network, specifically aimed at children and under the watchful eye of censors. If there's no limits on what you can do, then it's not shocking when you do something gross or sexually suggestive! Big deal, I say!
I for one *_love_* Ren & Stimpy: AP. No idea why apparently no one else did. And this video doesn't really elucidate it either. Maybe fans actually got _too old_ for it? I sure didn't. :shrugs: 😌
The only other example of a kids show becoming an adult show is Dragon Ball - Dragon Ball Z - Dragon Ball Super. Went from PG to MA. (Yes, some episodes are MA.)
@@WizeGuyz2023 I am not so sure about Dragon Ball. Definitely had potential for younger viewers as mature as some episodes are. Yet also helps part of my point, that shit is so rare. Going from PG to MA let alone a series' prime demographic.
I purchased both R&S series sets in my pursuit to recapture my youth, both around the same price. While I found the tail end to the Nick run to be a slog getting through, I could only bear watching one episode of APC. On my first attempt, I couldn't get through five minutes of the first episode. Though the animation was sold as being improved, it looked so cheap to me. I tried a second time but couldn't get past the self serving introductory diatribes John K rambled off before the second ep. There are some true horroresque stories about that guy, and he def sends off those vibes. One of said intros on APC DVD legitimately reminded me of a ransom video some kidnapper would send to a young girls' parents. The atmosphere of his studios had to be torture for anyone not a straight, horny, Caucasian Libertarian, as I can only surmise from listening to R&S commentary tracks. I don't have the appetite to revisit either show, to be honest.
Jordan. I love your work, man. I just gotta throw it out there that my grandma (she smoked a lot if u know what I mean, cool granny) handed me a CD case to watch cartoons and other movies. She handed me this CD in particular, and I about died when I put it in, I couldn't believe this was allowed to be made on a CD. That being said, it wasn't the worst thing I've ever watched. It had its funny moments, and id like to think that the episode "Ren seeks help" is the best interpretation of how fucked up some people in the world are, and portrays a realistic take on what some mentally ill people experience(d) to get that way. That's about all I can say about it, tho. 🤭😂
I did see this, but I avoided it like the plegue. It just wasn't my humor. But I am thankful that it opened so many options and gave life to so many artist. It's a good show if not one of the better ones. Just not something I enjoyed watching. So give credit where it's due.
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What was your least favorite Nickelodeon show?
Rocket Power. I said it
Unfortunately it was Ren and Stimpy. I am easily grossed out and the comedy and content just didn't appeal to me. I was also not a fan of Real Monsters (I think that was the name), because the character designs creaped me out.
Never was a fan of ahh real monsters. Loved pretty much every cartoon but that one. I would always change the channel when it came on.
Angry beavers
Most non animated shows
Just because I'm an adult, doesn't mean I like "adult" things. The same can be said for most modern adults.
Most "adult" animation these days isn't. It's just adolescent humor wrapped in edgelord philosophy.
This isnt even adult. John K seems to think adults want to see boogers and snot.
Amen to that!
Even so, adult things doesn't always mean creepy and disturbing things.
I like adult things, not because they're adult, but because of the lack of censorship. There's a difference in showing the nasty and BEING the nasty, know what I mean?
The biggest appeal of ren and stimpy was seeing what they can get away with in a kids show
Ah Ren and Stimpy. The show no kid really understood but every kid watched
I’m 25 now and still don’t understand it lmao
It's just pure psychosis with a little bit of charm.
I’m 13 and I still don’t understand
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 I was and still am not allowed to watch this show. I don't know why.😕
@@Xisk77 one of their most memorable episodes for me were the ones where they would lose their mind in space. that shit was crazy as fuck
2 good things about APC
1. It started the career of Eric Bauza
2. One of the episodes became an inspiration to the whole lost episode genre in creepypasta.
I still can't believe Bauza went from a cheap Stimpy knockoff to one of the most respected and successful voice actors in the entire industry.
Can't forget about the flute dance scene
3. A lot of the original Spümcø animators who worked on this went on to work on other stuff like Vincent Waller working on Spongebob!
for point numbah two, which episode are you talking about?
@@PIZZA7y54d6gf6 Ren seeks help
A lot of the reasons the show isn't as good as the original is because Bob Camp worked with John K. on the original show.
Camp kept everything focused and made sure things didn't go too far.
To be honest, it seemed like sometimes censorship is a good thing because it forces you to find smarter and more creative ways to tell stories and jokes without stooping to the lowest common denominator.
It wasn't censorship so much as keeping John K on a leash. Censorship would be editing out stuff one doesn't like *after* the release. It's about controlling what people see and hear. That's why most people are against censorship.
@TurkeyToast No argument there. Tried watching it, was not impressed or entertained. It was too vulgar and mean-spirited for my liking. And the gross out went way too far.
I for one *_love_* Ren & Stimpy: AP.
No idea why apparently no one else did. And this video doesn't really elucidate it either.
Maybe fans actually got _too old_ for it? I sure didn't.
:shrugs: 😌
That is a great way to see that - i hear people swearing alot and i feel sad because the fail to use a exponential vocabulary...
Some people work better when being given limits. John K had no idea what he wanted to show to be about, So he just made a show about playing with the limits he was imposed with
As for the answer to your last question- APC was both Johs middle finger, and his true vision. Reen Seeks Help, and Stimpy's Pregnant were actually unused concepts, and loose ideas unused from the original. Thankfully, Nick turned these ideas down. APC only revealed that Nick's executive meddling was actually the originals saving grace. It was great because Nick kept certain shit in line. Vanessa Coffey is also one of the large reasons why the original Ren was such a great character, and why he and the earlier episodes had the good amount of heart that they did. It really saddens me to know what Johns true vision for Ren and Stimpy was. An abusive, co-dependent relationship, with no substance, and sloppy animation with no plots, and just a bunch of nonsense. It saddens me even more that APC destroyed the possibility for Ren and Stimpy to ever make a real comeback, outside of Nick sports games.
"REN & STIMPY" can come back but it must be without John K's involvement and it even could have a couple of gags used as a "Take That" against John K and "APC". A ton of others worked on the original and John K's involvement was very minimal. TIME TO LIBERATE THAT DERANGED CHIHUAHUA AND HIS LOVABLE DOOFUS KITTY BUDDY FROM THAT TEEN-MOLESTING PSYCHO!
“Ren Seeks Help” actually ended up being retooled and reworked into the season 4 episode “Ren Needs Help!”.
@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 I think the same could go for Bubsy, & his creator Michael Berlyn, not gonna lie.
@@ExtremeWreck Never heard about Busby, I'd have to look that one up.
@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 Trust me, you're going to hate the Bubsy games, the cartoon pilot by DiC, & especially the 3D one for the PS1.
I remember watching the first episode premiere as a kid. I was 13, I stayed up late...they lived in a homeless man's mouth & discussed "givers & takers"...it's still a story I can never forget.
I liked it lol
Me too. I was excited for a new "Adult" animation block. And Stan Lee's Stripperella.
.. what are the "givers & takers"?
@@nickyricardo7034 it means butt sex...😑...😅
The only reason why i know about this show existence is because people would take raunchy clips from it, post it online, and be like “This is a scene from the original Ren and Stimpy cartoon!! How did Nickelodeon get away with this??”.
even as a kid, i wondered how the hell this show was able to air on nick.
Honestly though, the original show was pretty raunchy, but I mean, it wasn't like... THIS. I hate both versions anyway.
I was born too late for it I think (2000), but as a teenager I watched some of the show because I was curious and most of what I have seen was straight up nightmare fuel. I'm an adult now and it still creeps me out. I don't know how there were little 5 year olds enjoying that crap.
@@PearlFirexx ok karen
@@PearlFirexx I watched it but my dad would tell me not to. I was confused because it was on Nick and he would tell me it’s not a kids show. I get it now but yeah this is way worse than the og.
Exactly! The gross-outs should be incidental and not THE FOCUS. "REN & STIMPY" worked best when the crossness was minimal and it relied on wacky, satire and just being silly. Also, in the original, Ren & Stimpy...while they were profoundly dysfunctional, still were buddies who cared about each other deep down (in a weird, twisted sort of way). If Ren was being abusive, it was for good reason and simply a matter of him overreacting rather than sadism. Some of the best humor didn't involve extreme gross-outs at all...That silly "Happy Helmet", the nature show spoof (the 'Frilled Ren' was adorable), the space adventure with the red button, etc.
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However, John K is an idiot and assumed everyone liked "R & S" for the gross-outs. I don't buy his "I was forced into it by Spike" for one second. The Emperor has no clothes and his later offering bear this out. "REN & STIMPY" was awesome DESPITE John K not because of him. "REN & STIMPY" can come back and be great again without ANY of John K's involvement!
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JOHN KRISFALUSI IS AN "EEEDIOT!" AND A "BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM!".
One problem, his distinctive voice for ren stands out from all the others. John Kricfalusi is Ren Hoek, I'd rather keep the original Ren & Stimpy without any new version being made and let APC fade to black.
@@PowerRangersFanAntiDinoFury True.
The problem is, Kricfalsui is so poisoned by toxic masculinity that he thought pathos was anathema to Ren and Stimpy. That's why they did that one cartoon where Stimpy falls in love with a fart, to prove some point about how fake pathos in animation is.
Unsurprisingly, fans have rejected this read for the nihilistic bullcrap it is.
@@christopherwall2121Yeah
No. The writing isn't nearly as good in the later seasons.
It’s like John K’s. older issues with Nick was one of the few instances in television history where the network executives were actually in the right (i.e. “Hey, maybe this episode’s a bit too much. Try and tone it down a bit, please” or “John, you’re taking way too long.”).
Then again, maybe I’m just salty about a dude who treated his employees, his underage female fans and the people around him like absolute garbage.
Honestly, this spin off was probably an opportunity for him to show his true colors as a human being: Vile and grotesque.
As an adult female that is into more "male-oriented" things, I was a fan of the original Ren & Stimpy that was on Nickelodeon. When I first heard about the DVDs coming out, advertising "lost episodes", I was thinking that it was just a case of episodes that were deemed "not kid-friendly" and had been produced years later for the now grown-up audience that had watched the show before. Boy... was I wrong. I could barely get through two episodes, and I have since then blocked out everything that I saw/heard while watching them.
Dn
@@spenserjackson Huh?
@@americanalligator1284 deez nuts
@@killerduck1689 Ah. Thank you 😉
"this was the end of ren and stimpy"
Comedy Central: *Laughs In New Ren And Stimpy Spin-off*
As of today...not anymore! It’s shelved so no one is laughing lol
@@ChaosTheory9 not true
Billy west annuced its still happening
@@Eedoit94 yep
@@ChaosTheory9 either way no one would be laughing
@mkeufish no there was another reboot planed after Adult Party
Ren and Stimpy feels like this inside joke I was never in on because I was born in the middle of the 90s and barely caught reruns of it but I damn saw its influence everywhere.
Even Stephen Hillenburg made a tiny doodle of them in his notebook - but God, I love the art direction of earlier seasons.
APC killed the surrealism of the original.
Along with the subtlety.
They had to be clever on Nickelodeon, but on Spike it was just too obvious and easy, therefore much lamer.
That's subjective
I think it was that ren and stimpy was supposed to be a kids show but to also cater to adults at the same time and made ren and stimpy stand out so well at the time.
No, what people seem to forget or they were too young to know, is that it originally aired on MTV and was made for adults. Nickelodeon got hold of it, censored it from its original version, and pretty much ruined it for the original fans. It’s now difficult to even find the original, MTV versions; only the Nickelodeon kiddy episodes are available.
I never watched it it was just too ugly looking for me lol the same with Aaah Mosnters
@@kathleen5296there might be some footage in some archived websites or seeded pirate websites
I always found it weird that even though Stimpy wears gloves, his finger nail beds still show
Every time you sprinkled in a clip from the 90s Ren and Stimpy to mock the Adult Party cartoon it gave me so much joy- having the occasional palette cleanse was much appreciated! And the comparisons just made me love the original even more
I have a Japanese penpal who loves Ren and Stimpy. I taped episodes of Adult Party Cartoon for her. She loved it!
Wow
I forgot how even the colour palette of APC was disgusting to look at
Speaking of Ren and Stimpy, I really hope the new revival they’re doing will bring back the original spirit of the show as well as heal R&S reputation after APC basically killed it. I’m hoping the team working on it give John K one big ‘F You’ with it (the idea of a R&S show without his involvement must already piss him off)
John kricfalusi is a creep but i still love ren and stimpy
He shouldn't have even been involved with that show in the 1st place.
@@ExtremeWreck not APC, but without him ren & stimpy simply wouldn't exist. You can't deny someone's skills solely based on their person. Separating art from artist is a constant thing i have to do with this series
@@theredpanda00 Well, maybe he'd do that, then just leave the building.
A very talented yet disturbed man...
@@rankrodent2772 that describes most artists sadly :’)
The original Ren and Stimpy, particularly the early seasons, were already so dark and twisted that they basically defined the line for what's acceptable viewing material and what isn't. Allowing the twisted mind of John K to produce an unleashed version of this show when NICKELODEON could barely keep him to the basest levels of human decency was one of those things you look at in retrospect and think "what the ever loving hell went through the executive's minds?"
This is a classic example of how just because something is "adult" doesn't mean it's mature.
I remember being so excited to see that Ren and Stimpy were coming back. I actually tuned in to the premiere episode when it aired. My problem was that the humor tried too hard to be edgy. By the time you had Ren freak out on Stimpy by saying, "How many times do I have to remind you? I'm the pitcher! You're the catcher!" I figured that the show wasn't the show I was thought it would be. The original series had some edgy humor to it, but I think being on a kid's network made it walk a fine line that actually made it funny because of how they had to work around that limitation. This was just basically John K going, "Now that I'm not doing this for a kid's network, I'm going to make it as offensive as possible." and shoehorn in a bunch of unfunny edgy jokes for the sake of it.
Ren and stimpy was so far ahead of its time that today would look at yesterday and sue the SHIT out of it
I hate all the shows that tripped it off or were too bland compared to it.
I absolutely LOVED the original Ren & Stimpy - and saw all of the adult versions, and agree they were absolutely unwatchable. In the original, Stimpy was a brilliant inventor and his character was innocent. In the adult versions, Stimpy is just stupid and banal. It is as though John K. wanted to create his ultimate F*U middle finger to everyone in the industry who had turned on him. I once thought John K. was brilliant. Now I think he’s a pervy creep who is into young girls and that all the fun, joy, and humour of the original series had almost nothing to do with John K.
Yeah so true !!
I was a huge R&S fan back in the 90s so i was super excited about them coming back in 2003.
I was on the edge of my seat for the first episode.
It was so bad i didnt even watch the whole thing & never even bothered to see when the rest aired. It even kinda ruined the old episodes, i dont know if ive watched any R&S since.
In order to do a good job, John K needs limits imposed on him from outside, if you cut him loose you get shit.
As someone who saw stripperella and this in my teens, this show was the worse of the two. Sure it has better animation, but it is an insult to the original series.
Also. Who else wants to see Mr. Horse meet Bojack Horseman?
(WHAT IS THIS?? A CROSSOVER EPISODE??!?) 😂😂
"Call the Poooliiiiiice"
O my goddd!!!!!! I WOULD LOVE BOJACK TO ENCOUNTER MR. HORSE!!!! HELL YEAH!!! AND A CAMEO OF POWDERED TOASTMAN!
Gross
I've heard Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon is just awful and it's definitely one of the far worst 2000s cartoons of all time. It is infamous for its episode Ren Seeks Help. I've only seen some bits of it on TH-cam and it's absolutely horrific. Ren is seen torturing the poor innocent frog, removing the caterpillar's legs and killing the ants by burning. At the end of the same episode, he starts attacking and killing Mr. Horse as he goes completely mad.
I thought I had no idea why the American company Viacom (now ViacomCBS) decided to make an adult spin-off of the popular 90s cartoon. They should be absolutely ashamed of this terrible spin-off.
I'm not gonna watch Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon anymore.
Anyway good night 🌃 from Ireland 🇮🇪
From what I hear, Ren Seeks Help was inspired by real life events in John K's life. Not to mention I think it was also made to be absolutely gross and abhorrent at the behest of a fan.
@@SaiyanGamer95 The sad thing is the Original already had an episode similar to that and miles better.
Remember the Jimmty Lummox episode?
That was the one where Ren did horrible things because he literally didn't have a conscious.
Stimpy decided to lend his conscious to him and whenever Ren did something terrible, his conscious would literally beat up on him.
It was one of my favorites as a kid.
I'm Mexican American, from Brownsville, Texas. I love Ireland. Shamrocks!!!
But on the bright side, it inspired the writer of the creepypasta "Red mist". Just think about it. Both stories are about a lost episode of a popular Nickelodeon show that is somehow really disturbing and included extremely violent scenes. Except Ren seeks help was released in 2003 and Red mist was made in 2005.
And the fact that Ren seeks help is official and Red mist is just a fanmade story (it did have a cameo in one episode though)
I reviewed APC for a blog I used to contribute to, I still remember writing about how Stimpy became pregnant and Ren's first reaction was to grab a wire hanger... I followed it up with "Feel free to take a few minutes, lord knows I did."
Ren & Stimpy aimed for kids > Ren & Stimpy aimed for adults
I was so pumped for Adult Party Ren & Stimpy back on the day. As a huge fan of the Nickelodeon original I had high hopes....Boy! was I disappointed. Almost from the start it flew off the rails.
I wish I could wipe it from my memory.
Me too, I loved the original Ren & Stimpy, the Adult Party version was just terrible. What was disgustingly funny became just plain disgusting.
Damn is it really that disgusting to watch? It almost seems unreal a cartoon could be that bad, I actually want to watch it just to see how disgusting it really is lol
@@thepizzaelf
Don't...
Trust me on this.
You'll want to bleach your brain afterwards.
It really tarnishes the originals
@@megacide84 I just watched some clips on TH-cam and you’re absolutely right. Wtf were they thinking it’s absolutely atrocious and makes me feel so weird about the original show now 😩
I like how in one episode flashback Ren's dad is supposedly Catholic but John K. doesn't even know how that religion works lol
I still own the DVD as part of my Ren & Stimpy collection. It’s in very good condition since I’ve only watched it once.
I watched the adult cartoon when I was 16, and it traumatized my teenage psyche in ways I wish it hadn't. It introduced me to things in the adult world I should NOT have seen at that age.
Nothing has come even remotely close to horrifying me as this show did, not even in a good way like the original.
Now, it's 10 years later. The show still makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
Cry me a river. I read Joe Blow by Robert Crumb when I was under ten years old . . . got it from the library in a collection of comics.
@TheCaptain610 buddy you need therapy too.
lol sheltered
@@Deffected cmon man.....
@zoie4000 you come on... how weak internally do you have to be to get traumatised from ren and stimpy when you're almost a legal adult?
How is everyone doing? Hope everyone is safe and healthy
Suffering
Physically well and depressed af
A bad day is a choice my friend!
Good, how are you?
I hope the reboot has a villainous character modeled after Krisfalusi that Ren & Stumpy clobber or something. Call him "Jerk Grosskowski World's Worst Cartoonist". Jerk would take over the reins of Ren & Stimpy's fave in-universe cartoon show only to butcher it. Ren & Stimpy then got out to stop him and many gags referencing (albeit more tactfully) junk from "APC", "Cans Without Labels" and that "Pee Boner" nonsense.
Ngl, that’s a good idea 😂
I actually watched the entire thing from the time it came out to the time it got cancelled. I was 10 and I had already been in love with the original show. It left a bad taste in my mouth and it was hard to watch the original show afterwards.
I remember watching this live on TV as a 7 or 8 year old. I couldn't stomach it
I feel seriously bad for you. I hope you're doing better now.
I saw it when I was 11 or 12 years old on TH-cam and then Netflix. It was a decent experience but now, I regret it so much 🤮
Well it was not for children but for MEN!!!
Im loving your new content so far, I can't wait until you do a Dexter and Courage episodes (I hope you do)
Ugh...I hated the Adult Party version of Ren and Stimpy. Love the original though
The clip right off the bat where Ren is pulling out the nerves from his gums... I actually physically cringed and felt the pain from that, and I hate that it exists...
Maybe they were super thin gloves :o
I remember when John K got fired in the early 90's they interviewed him
in Cenimatique (?) Magazine in 1992 and they listed off a bunch of
episodes that Nickelodeon rejected in 1991 and two of those episodes
ended up being "Onwards & Upwards" and "Altruists" and they included
quotes from the script & storyboard that ended up in the Adult Party
Cartoons over a decade later.
I think if Vanessa Coffey let him do them for Nickelodeon but made him
tone it down a bit, they would have ended up being better episodes.
When John K is left to his own devices unchecked, he tends to ruin things.
I loved Ren and Stimpy cartoons in the first half they produced. Yeah, its a shame they had to get over board with things that made ya want to barf. I liked the sexual innuendos, as long as they didn't over step things. South Park movie over stepped that and I hated it too. Its a shame that they felt like they had to go over board with things.
What's really funny about this entire show, it was intended as one of the grand entrees to re-introduce The New TNN as Spike TV, _now called Paramount Network,_ but Adult Party Cartoon was cancelled before they fully incorporated the Spike TV handle, meaning the only time it aired, the network was still using the TNN screenbug and the TNN production logo. The show died _that fast._
I heard that Billy West didn't want to be apart of this show cause it would "ruin his career" and he was deffinally right
@@samuraigeorge71 No that wasn't rightful. Billy is just an actor. He doesn't owe John K anything.
@@samuraigeorge71 But why hire someone back who is a jerk who created the whole mess himself. Also, he could get replaced and fired too.
@@samuraigeorge71 Given the failure of Adult Party Cartoon history shows the exact opposite.
Adult party cartoon came at the wrong time on the wrong channel. It's still funny. Billy is talented, but Ren and Stimpy is the only reason I know his name. John K may be a creep, but still an insanely talented creep. Weirdos are way more interesting than average minds. Facts.
@@equinox2459 No, this show was lame
Yeah this pretty much nails it on the head with APC. I will say I do genuinely like the Firedogs part II Episode. It has a lot of the major flaws with the other episodes for sure but actually has a good amount of classic Ren & Stimpy style humor. My favorite part is Stimpy playing the pan flute and Rens little dance. Plus the fire chief character was pretty funny. But beyond that episode I wish this show never existed.
I don't think John K. had boundaries... or ethics... or morals... or a conscience.
I was really let down by this show. I can't recall much, but what I can I was just thinking "okay...trying waaaaay too hard here."
“Not for kiddies”?? Not for anyone wtf
John K. ruined his career and ruined the cartoon he created! Unbelievable.
Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon is basically the equivalent to modern day Family Guy.
Space Madness, and Nurse Stimpy are two episodes that stand out as hilarious.
I have to say this every time I see one of these APC reviews. John K is the worst thing to happen to R&S. He created them, yeah, but for the most part he wasn't there to work on the show. He wanted perfection and had high demands, but Nickelodeon got tired of him not showing up to work, so they eventually got rid of him due to deadlines.
APC happened, and the same thing happened again. He wasn't showing up to work. Except this time Nickelodeon couldn't step in and continue without him. The staff had to work on the show without John K. John K deliberately designed APC to appeal to the dumbest people, saying something like "they're so stupid they won't even realize how bad it is". That design, PLUS he wasn't showing up to oversee the project, and that was the result.
The guy had TWO chances to make R&S a success. And he failed both times. The guy only worked on season 1 and 2 of the original, and season 1 was only 6 episodes long. Nickelodeon did three other season PLUS the original two without him. He deserves no credit for R&S and they need to quit letting him touch that franchise.
He can still work as an animator, but don't let this man direct a single show more. John K has demonstrated several times he can't direct a show.
I grew up watching the original show on a small black and white TV and it was one of my favorite cartoons. When the spike TV show was announced I was interested until I saw the first episode.
I'm really liking this new style Jordan, props!
Thank you for the setting the record straight, OG Ren & Stimpy were tainted by this recreation.
Now that I've seen the full series, I can understand why so many loved it and as a new fan have taken the oath to never bring apc ever again and hope others never learn about it.
I kinda knew of it but never seen it and didn’t know it was so bad it only lasted a day. But yes it definitely sounds like the creator was trying to get revenge or some weird thing.
I grew up watching the original and heck even my mom did as well ,up until the episode about either Stimpy’s nose goblin collection or his scab collection lol. She was able to stomach the grossness till then. A lot of our younger coworkers would be shocked when she would start singing the Happy Happy Joy Joy song and also kinda repulsed that she let us watch it lol. My brother and I got lucky that my folks didn’t censor almost everything from us. ( granted something’s had to wait till we where older, but not a silly cartoon)
Yeah. This show was bad. Real bad! No wonder why this premiered on the Sprite channel, and not Nickelodeon.
John K may have created the show but I think it’s bob camp we should be giving credit
Ren and Stimpy is the definition and embodiment of a downward spiral of a nickelodeon cartoon
Didn't know it existed. Never was a fan of the OG. Hell, I never saw it as "for kids" but rather adults in the same vein as South Park and Family Guy or some of the Adult Swim.....fever dream shows.
I still remember the late-night commercials advertising the DVDs for this on comedy central's secret stash.
And this is before his crimes got exposed to the world.
The first episodes from the reboot just came out and its quite similar to the 90s original show.
I actually really liked the adult show. However i do think it would do better now, especially on at 3am on adult swim. Love the new content homie. ❤️ hope you are well!
I liked Ren Seeks Help, but hated the others.
@@caucasoidape8838 As hated as that episode is , it's the ONLY episode that deserves the Adult tag in the show. The rest of APC is mostly nonsense but that episode is to me what the entire show should have been about, psychological dark humor.
Same I love adult party cartoon, don't care what anyone says
2:52 C’mon admit it…
that line was kinda funny.
Lol
John K. had another short lived cartoon that aired on Fox Saturday mornings call The Ripping Friends that I honestly can't believe was ever allowed in that block.
I almost forgot these episodes existence... Good job on the edits Jordan (as stupid as that compliment may sound) it really brought out the best in some of the worst Ren and Stimpy Episodes out there!
It’s weird that I can honestly say “I’ll never forgive Ren & Stimpy for inspiring more Ren & Stimpy.”
My least favorite Nickelodeon show, was definitely Rocket Power. It was boring bland, and largely forgettable. Its one of those shows I watched when nothing else was on.
I don’t like Rocket Power either. The Wild Thornberrys imo was awful too, mostly because I found it long and boring.
@@gloriana13 Wild Thornberrys I enjoyed, and it was at least fun to watch. Much better than Rocket Power. More likeable, and relatable characters.
@@th3azscorpio true. It still wasn’t that good for me either way. The only thing I liked about the show was Nigel, mostly because of the memes and how he sounds 😂
@@gloriana13 Lol right? Even though I enjoyed it, it was still one of the more forgettable Nicktoon shows. '91-97 was when Nick was at it's prime.
@@gloriana13 Just because something is boring doesn't mean it's bad
Honestly, I think the gross visuals justify themselves as art, even tho as a “show” it’s bad as you say
Not only that, but Joseph Barbera hated on how John Kricfalusi ruined Yogi Bear with its shorts, Boo Boo Runs Wild and A day in the life of Ranger Smith. After seeing how gross this shorts turned out, Joseph Barbera was angry and wanted Kricfalusi dead.
lol maybe so, because Yogi Bear was supposed to be a quirky wholesome show with a few nods to adult humor...Kricfalusi basically did a grotesque parody of Yogi and the ranger and it IS HILARIOUS... 😂
Sorry you and Joe didn't like it...🤷🏻♂️
in my country,all the episodes were dubbed(with the same VAs from the original cartoon coming back) and broadcasted on VH1,probably long before the americans could see them in their own country on DVD!
I blame Ralph Bakshi. He had a hand in that show. And he was the one who tried to take it to that level. He was trying to make ren and stempy into another fritz the cat. He is the one who pushed the infamous "You're the catcher! I'm the pitcher!" Scene. I think that one scene is what doomed the whole show.
Really? Bakshi had a hand in this, too? Dang!
@@jackatkinson3682 The entire Fire Dogs 2 episode is centered around him.
Eh. I don't think that's his fault for letting John K took inspiration from his work. Fritz The Cat is an odd movie, but if it wasn't for Ralph Bakshi, then adult animation wouldn't be a thing by now.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Agreed
@@poweroffriendship2.0 giving any single person total and unanimous credit for adult animation even existing is blatantly false lol
i remember watching all 6 episodes of this show a few years ago because I was going through ren and stimpy at the time and thought of giving this show a try but it was genuinely terrible, not a single episode was even close to being good (shit like naked beach frenzy gotta be one of the worst episodes of anything I’ve seen)
the unfortunate thing is that this show has very good animation, love the backgrounds and character animations (despite the fact the sound design is usually awful and constantly overuses stock sound effects with bad audio mixing) and I dont think an adult version of ren and stimpy is inherently a bad idea, but the writing has to be good and this show’s writing was absolutely NOT good lmao
I remember watching one of the episodes and it was Ren torturing some poor frog for however long the episode was. The whole thing came off as sadistic, especially after being a fan of the original series when I was a kid. Didn't dig it.
I loved the original but never watched the remake. Or at least don’t remember anything about. Thanks for the informative video!
Stimpys Fan Club was a masterpiece
How no mention of POWDERED TOAST MAN!!! >XD Loved the Original hated the remake, Hopefully you have a Rocko's Modern life vid floating around here somewhere
APC was the revival spinoff that should have never happened. If I could mandela effect it out existence, and have it be just a fever dream, I would. It was just Johns massive middle finger to Nick for firing him, and driving his creation into the ground; when ironically he once again fucked himself over, did the same to his franchise. It almost killed the entire, along with Johns later sex abuse allegations. The show was also Johns way to indulge his sick perversions, and expose his mentality, without anyone to reign him in check.
What made the show unlikable, was of course the over the top, extreme grossout. The over the top nonsensical stories, and lack of substance. Shitty pacing, and the complete bastardization of the characters is what made this series fail hard. It lacked the heart and care of the original. I remember staying up to watch it back in 03 when it premiered, and thinking "wtf is this?!" It just felt so wrong, and too far removed from the original. The magic of the original show was just gone.
No bro watch any of his web shows or independent cartoons. All his cartoons are like APC. As much as we hate to admit it Nick made Ren and stimpy good.
Part of the fun of the original Ren & Stimpy was seeing what they could get away with on a children's network, specifically aimed at children and under the watchful eye of censors. If there's no limits on what you can do, then it's not shocking when you do something gross or sexually suggestive! Big deal, I say!
I for one *_love_* Ren & Stimpy: AP.
No idea why apparently no one else did. And this video doesn't really elucidate it either.
Maybe fans actually got _too old_ for it? I sure didn't.
:shrugs: 😌
Ren & Stimpy was great! Adult Party was REALLY bad. The only reason I'd ever recommend it is for people to appreciate the original shows.
Oh, it’s a cartoon for adul- “MENN!!!”
The only other example of a kids show becoming an adult show is Dragon Ball - Dragon Ball Z - Dragon Ball Super. Went from PG to MA. (Yes, some episodes are MA.)
The final season of Samurai Jack also went more adult.
DragonBall and DragonBall z were never meant to be kid shows. they were always and adult manga
@@WizeGuyz2023 No, they weren't. Japan just has different standards for what is acceptable for kid's media.
@@WizeGuyz2023 DB was published in Weekly Shonen Jump, which was primarily marketed to young boys roughly from elementary to high school age.
@@WizeGuyz2023 I am not so sure about Dragon Ball. Definitely had potential for younger viewers as mature as some episodes are.
Yet also helps part of my point, that shit is so rare. Going from PG to MA let alone a series' prime demographic.
That "for men" clip 😂🤣😅
TheMysteriousMrEnter, PhantomStrider, Jem Reviews... they all hated this.
I purchased both R&S series sets in my pursuit to recapture my youth, both around the same price. While I found the tail end to the Nick run to be a slog getting through, I could only bear watching one episode of APC. On my first attempt, I couldn't get through five minutes of the first episode. Though the animation was sold as being improved, it looked so cheap to me. I tried a second time but couldn't get past the self serving introductory diatribes John K rambled off before the second ep.
There are some true horroresque stories about that guy, and he def sends off those vibes. One of said intros on APC DVD legitimately reminded me of a ransom video some kidnapper would send to a young girls' parents. The atmosphere of his studios had to be torture for anyone not a straight, horny, Caucasian Libertarian, as I can only surmise from listening to R&S commentary tracks.
I don't have the appetite to revisit either show, to be honest.
I remember me and my friend sat down to watch this and like five minutes in we looked at each other with sad faces and gave up
Born in 1965, I loved R&S. We used to quote the show at work.
Is the second episode really just ren torturing a frog for like 20 minutes? I've only seen clips
No, it has a plot. It's about Ren getting therapy.
@@genericname2747 oooh, ok
That's something at least
@@Diskest still a bad episode, but there's a skeleton of an interesting plot. It is mostly edgy torture jokes though
I still have the DVD of this.
I am in the minority for sure but I LOVED the original Nicktoons version and equally loved the adult version.
The only good line of the show: “Doctor!?!?!? IM A HORSE!!!”
never saw ren & stimpy but adult party was my childhood
Jordan. I love your work, man. I just gotta throw it out there that my grandma (she smoked a lot if u know what I mean, cool granny) handed me a CD case to watch cartoons and other movies. She handed me this CD in particular, and I about died when I put it in, I couldn't believe this was allowed to be made on a CD. That being said, it wasn't the worst thing I've ever watched. It had its funny moments, and id like to think that the episode "Ren seeks help" is the best interpretation of how fucked up some people in the world are, and portrays a realistic take on what some mentally ill people experience(d) to get that way. That's about all I can say about it, tho. 🤭😂
This was really well done!
I did see this, but I avoided it like the plegue. It just wasn't my humor. But I am thankful that it opened so many options and gave life to so many artist. It's a good show if not one of the better ones. Just not something I enjoyed watching.
So give credit where it's due.