'Nobody believes the growth numbers' - Desmond Shum on how Xi Jinping destroyed the Chinese economy

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  • @DonRua
    @DonRua 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    It's widely acknowledged that metrics and information released by the CCP are often questionable, and this interview confirms that. Regardless of the reasons, I commend Mr. Shum for stepping forward. It takes real courage to challenge such a powerful entity. I'm surprised his story hasn't gained more mainstream attention. As he said, "This is history," and it should be easily accessible to anyone who wants to know. I wish Mr. Shum all the best.
    PS: now, is this gonna get me in trouble under article 23 and the new global security law? lol

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Speaking out kept him alive by helping him stay in the Western radar. The guy sold his conscience for wealth. He admitted it. Now that he had a son to protect and a lot of dangerous enemies who rule a superpower, he needs another superpower protection.
      I like his expose, but let's not pretend that it is anything other than self-interest and self-preservation. He did not pretend otherwise.

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is fashionable to do this ... there is a share of the $1.5 billion after all

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But i wont buy the crappy book

  • @williamb7246
    @williamb7246 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Ah the chinese bots are well and truly alive on this video 😂 they're not even subtle anymore

    • @pablosskates7067
      @pablosskates7067 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@williamb7246 they’re not as prolific as they used to be. In fact they are tamer and significantly smaller in numbers these days. I think it’s a combination of a reducing propaganda budget due to being broke and people losing the passion to fight for a country they now realise has been lying to them forever. The veil is coming down and they see it too.

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And why should they? Western countries are detaining anyone critical of Israel. Gimme a break with this high and mighty attitude .

    • @FC-vp9ej
      @FC-vp9ej 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@pablosskates7067 lol, if CCP truly want to overwhelm YT censor, they can just free Chinese from internet control, there are 1.4b Chinese, each spit once, you're done. they're been nice.

  • @stephenh4939
    @stephenh4939 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Fascinating interview. I particularly enjoyed Desmond's observation that a Gweilo "could never have found out secret financial information, in China"

  • @reneprovosty7032
    @reneprovosty7032 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    do not confuse yourself, you cannot reward innovation if you do not allow the winners to retain their own wealth. Then smart people will leave.

  • @cooper1819
    @cooper1819 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Got to look at the overall outcome to address corruption that was widespread in China those days.
    Corruption had always brought down many Chinese dynasties including the last Qing dynasty. It’s always very grey on Chinese corruption because wealth is often hidden and though relationships.

  • @aldrichshao29
    @aldrichshao29 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wish you all best

  • @amunra5330
    @amunra5330 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh did you guys get your check from the US State Department?

  • @tengchuankhoo6585
    @tengchuankhoo6585 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Brits have a long and, rightly so, great history of story telling - from Shakespeare to Hardy and Tolkien. However selective listening and spinning can often end badly. So one question - if China economic numbers are so bad, why is it so dominant in commodity markets, EV, solar, heavy equipment, etc.

    • @pablosskates7067
      @pablosskates7067 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Points to industries that are heavily subsidized as proof.
      And in the same breath, will argue tooth and nail this isn’t happening. GG wumao. GG.

    • @Kevin-fq3zh
      @Kevin-fq3zh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pablosskates7067 excellent response, right on point!! 👍🏻

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tengchuankhoo6585 debt and not doing enough 'internal circulation'

    • @ZhenYae
      @ZhenYae วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pablosskates7067 Not stealing from others like the West. Subsidised by their loot from former colonies..

  • @RonanTOC
    @RonanTOC 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting conversation

  • @kalloh5519
    @kalloh5519 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    please have this guest on more often, finally the truth behind the veil of the ccp

  • @ZhenYae
    @ZhenYae วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ok. The global majority does not buy into Western BS.

  • @gemox3225
    @gemox3225 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm interested in reading his book. I spent 9 years in Mainland China myself, as a teacher.

  • @tupaiking9136
    @tupaiking9136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really got to turn on the subtitles when hearing this Mainlander speaks 🤦.

  • @denisdufresne5338
    @denisdufresne5338 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please divide your video in different subjects, this way we could watch the subject we like instead of wasting our time on non interesting subject and make us leave your video.

  • @antndecks
    @antndecks 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Timetstamps

  • @bukitbatok7332
    @bukitbatok7332 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The more he talks, the more he looks like pinnocio.

  • @chrisohanlon69
    @chrisohanlon69 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What about Sam Melia, was disappeared by the UK regime?

    • @hawklord100
      @hawklord100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      oh... that racist thug who tried pathetic incitment of hatred.... good riddence to bad S&^%$

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Far right organiser was found quilty of disturbing disturbing material and racial hatred. A bit like how CCP state press describes America and Taiwan

    • @Kevin-fq3zh
      @Kevin-fq3zh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      whataboutism lol

    • @chrisohanlon69
      @chrisohanlon69 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Kevin-fq3zh well what about it, eh?

  • @stevetaylor20
    @stevetaylor20 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Julian Assange... Disappeared by the west

    • @heckmacbuff
      @heckmacbuff 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everybody knew exactly where he was, and where he is now.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@heckmacbuff lol. So because we knew he was in jail that changes everything. If they'd have hidden him away in a secure jail, that wouldn't have been OK. Lol

    • @heckmacbuff
      @heckmacbuff 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@stevetaylor20 just making the point that it is a totally different concept. But I'm sure you understand really.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heckmacbuff you're right I mean China are bad and America are amazing. I can't believe I didn't realise how the west are amazing and China are evil. Western governments don't do anything like what China do, we should aspire to be like western countries.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heckmacbuff I'm self harming right now. I realise the error of my ways. I can only apologise to you and offer my life in return

  • @keefooyuen1487
    @keefooyuen1487 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talking nonsense

  • @mohanchandra8987
    @mohanchandra8987 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what a load of crap!!!!

  • @guff9567
    @guff9567 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Desmond did her in himself

  • @TarulWarlord
    @TarulWarlord 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Was "disappeared"?
    What kind of English is that? Can you or anyone pass their English language test using such pharases?

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      AI reply, not me - The phrase "was disappeared" typically implies that someone vanished under mysterious or unexplained circumstances, often suggesting that external forces were involved.
      “Was made to be disappeared” is the same thing but more straight forward.

    • @johnheaton5058
      @johnheaton5058 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's perfectly acceptable...and often used in this context.

  • @Hdksbdidn
    @Hdksbdidn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This guy is nothing but a opportunist, there’s no such thing as loyalty in his dictionary

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes and No. We are all opportunist to some extend. But the REAL Opportunists are quick to evaluate cost and benefit. He and his wife were used to send a msg. By speaking out, he is asking for an “all out”
      War against him or anybody close to him. That is totally out of character of a real opportunist.

    • @segbwemabee5757
      @segbwemabee5757 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm currently reading his book. He was part of a corrupt political system doing business. When his luck ran out, he cut and ran.

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Being Chinese means having to be loyal to the CCP?

    • @Hdksbdidn
      @Hdksbdidn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Andy-P of course not. But of course he claimed to be loyal to ccp so he can get into the power center of ccp.

  • @zhpprojmang
    @zhpprojmang 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not sure about facts. Vague on wedding, vague 10 or 15 years of business. Just saying

  • @gemox3225
    @gemox3225 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Btw, you can't say "someone was disappeared" in English. It's a corruption of the English language.

    • @noah6825
      @noah6825 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      it's not a random grammatical blunder, it's a well-known usage in reference to people who have been kidnapped by their governments and detained or killed. it would not be correct to simply say 'she disappeared' in this context, as though she just went missing - that isn't what happened, the disappearing was done to her. Thus you get the twist on the verb. I imagine it comes from the south american context, where you also have the noun form 'desaparecidos' - 'the disappeared'.

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@noah6825you expect a grade 4 child to understand Oxford English? lol

    • @johnheaton5058
      @johnheaton5058 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually, you can...

    • @Mattsta2010
      @Mattsta2010 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gemox3225 go and look up "passives" in your english grammar reference book.