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you have no idea how long i’ve been waiting for someone to make a longer than five minute video of “finding liminal spaces”, and with actual locations and not just vague answers
I’d like to point out that the indoor neighborhood is almost certainly designed for people with dementia. A highly clinical setting can be extremely confusing and stressful for those suffering from dementia, so placing them in a more familiar and comforting setting can really help increase their quality of life
yeah, that was my first thought seeing that. I remember seeing a place that emulated old 60's and 70's and all for old folk to be more "familiar" with.
i’ve actually stayed at the level 188 hotel place on my vacation to europe last year, it was funny bc me and my friend saw it and were like “haha it looks like the backrooms” and took a bunch of pictures unknowing it was actually a backrooms location
The origin of the first backrooms photo was just found this month. Years of searching of this unsolved mystery have come to an end. The photo is of an old play called Rhonners. It is an Oshkosh Wisconsin. A new company moved into the building and was tearing everything down. (This is like 2000 or late 1990s) For whatever reason someone took that iconic photo of the "backrooms". Somehow it made it on to 4chan and the rest is history.
Fun fact about the seniors home, a lot of places aren’t like that, but they’ve found that for older people with Alzheimer’s or dimentia, having your apartment or room or whatever look like a distinct home helps them ground themselves and find their own room, rather than just having it look like a normal apartment or hotel where every door looks the same
20:19 I have no clue what the context is because I was too young to remember, but I have a vivid memory of playing with one of those marble run toys as a kid in a basement that looked EXACTLY like this. The parents were all doing something upstairs and they put all of us kids in a room like that one. Wish I knew where or when...
Yeah but there's still no doubt something creepy about the grass turfs, internal gardens, and artificial sky lights. They could just build small neighborhoods for them where they have a real porch and can actually go outside and see real grass lol.
I think the playgrounds, libraries, arcades etc are like childhood landmarks, and in a sense they DO represent a transitional period or place between. It’s THE transitional period! Your adolescence. The place between being a baby and being an adult. I think that’s why we feel nostalgic and yet a little uneasy when we see those pictures
I feel like there’s almost a de-mystifying aspect to it. As a kid, those places seem wonderful and almost magical at times. You would spend hours playing there, coming up with fantastical scenarios with your friends. But now when you view those places as an adult and devoid of any life, they look so wrong. You realize it’s just old carpet and hunks of plastic.
I believe that the reason why these photos give a nostalgic feeling to people is because when we see something like the Grand Canyon or Mount Rushmore or anything famous we have a very clear understanding of what that thing is. When your younger and your brain is still storing memories so you don’t piece something together clearly a like park or a empty field because those things aren’t important to you while your living through them you only start to cherish those memories as you get older therefore it is distorted so when you see a picture of any empty field or park or pool your brain misfires in those spots that childhood memories are stored
To me, liminal spaces aren’t as scary as other people make them out to be. They’re calming and like a gateway to the good old days of being an innocent kid. I wish I could walk around them and thanks to this video, I guess I could now.
Only time I remember feeling uneasy or scared being a semi liminal space, was when I had to use the bathroom in elementary school and it was the middle of class so no one was in the halls. It super creeped me out as a child.
same, it’s kinda like a nice area of limbo in my mind. u don’t have to do anything at liminal spaces since they’re so temporary u can just kinda exist in the moment
I randomly found this channel but boy am I glad I did, Liminal Spaces, forgotten aesthetics, this is a cosy channel that I can enjoy while sipping wine.
I think an important detail is that they feel like they shouldn't be empty. Either because they're normally a place you associate with having a lot of people (scholastic book fair, empty auditorium, etc) or because they're missing detail and feel like they've been "smoothed out" (the backrooms, the pool hallway). It makes our imaginations start to imagine what else /could/ be in those spaces
I think liminal spaces are a type of uncanny valley effect for environments rather than faces. Just like how robotic faces are creepy, liminal spaces are usually artificial, manmade spaces that are meant to imitate something else (fake nature, trees, kids play area). Humans have a collective awareness for what types of interiors are soothing. e.g. Nobody would consider churches or palaces liminal even though these locations are still widely used and frequented in modern day. In Europe there's the concept of "altbau" (old building) which are buildings dating beyond 100yrs and have high ceilings and other architectural markers. They never appear in liminal imagery even though many schools, homes, offices and institutes are housed in them. Maybe because those locations are old enough to feel authentic or soothing in collective human memory, which contrasts with the uglier "uncanny" spaces built in the past few decades.
True. Here first before this blows up😂 Liminal spaces are really interesting with their uncanny look. Wonder how proud the person that created this thing is😆
@@nunyabiznes33 remember who doxed who? , the backrooms might be in danger , you've never been taught the power of the griddy Hi! I uh came back 8 months later to fix the x issue, sorry if i caused anyone cringe but i unintentionally put 2 x's in doxed And ofc im kinda joking im aware the backrooms is a strong big universe (of levels)
Hey guys, I'm the person who took the photo at 6:28 ! (You cited a Reddit repost of my photo that I originally posted with the title, "The party's been over for years" on the LiminalSpace subreddit) Anyway, about the photo: I admire the amount of digging you've done to find the location of it - as I had no idea about the newer name "At-Play Amusement." With that being said, this photo was taken in 2014 while the place was still called "Fun Zone," although the place was barely operational anymore by that point. At the time, I assumed this was the original Music Express ride after getting ripped apart. Funny to find out now that it was actually a new ride being prepared for the rebranding of the place!
DAMN bro, just wanna say, you did one hell of a job!, That photo still gives me the creeps tho and props to it being added to the liminal space collection! 🔥
Hey! Fun fact there is one in Lewisville, TX and it's been permanently closed since 2020 also all "Fun Zones" are permanently closed, I just wanted to say that and thank you for the information. :)
I love the concept of liminal spaces as an architect. Those images are an exemple of what should we avoid in our projects, so we don't give the uncany valley feeling on people
@@greenbeans2424 Not really, because liminal place are useless space. When you give it a purpose how is not be a place where you only stay for a feel time. Its stop to be a liminal place and turn in a place with a purpose!
The 2nd dead mall photo when Kylie was introduced is called the landmark mall that I used to live next to, It got demolished in 2022 after 5 years of being abandoned. I used to shop there growing up
I've been in abandoned grocery stores before and they're very unsettling. It's just a giant warehouse filled with empty shelves and abandoned checkout registers. Definitely one of my most unique memories.
I was in an abandoned grocery store after a severe hurricane destroyed large portions of my home city and a lot of people who were without food, water, and power had busted into the grocery store to steal things to eat and drink. It's a very fucking weird place to be.
A grocery store recently close near where I live and I've gone to it very close before its actual closure, it is very weird to see and somewhat eerie to see empty shelves with some lasting items and only a few employees keeping up with the remaining stocks to sell. It's definitely not as much as most images you can see online, but it really does feel weird to be physically present in one of those
9:26 As someone from Russia, I can tell you that a lot of Soviet-era sanatoriums have these very liminal-looking swimming pools and spa rooms. The gloomy lighting, the walls/floors/ceilings made of those little square tiles, the murky-looking water. I recently re-visited a Soviet-era sanatorium near Moscow my family used to frequent when I was a child, and which gave me a lot of liminal dreams over the years. They'd refurbished some of it, but a lot of those liminal features in architecture, design and overall look and feel remain. I took a lot of photos for old times' sake.
Definitely! I feel like pre-communist Russian buildings have this "be happy you are suffering!" Vibe to the buildings. I've noticed they used bright colors, mosaics of false victories, play happy music every other hour in certain places- just screams liminal to me.
I remember going to a sanatorium as a child and my memories of it are so liminal, lots of white everywhere, the empty room with a bath full of narzan.. think of the Hawkins lab in stranger things 😂
Honestly this video made the Lantern of Madison picture go from spooky to heart warmingly wholesome. The fact they put that much effort into creating a place of familiarity for elders instead of having them live in a near sterile clinical environment, that can truly mean a lot to the seniors living their final days in that place. Instead of just a room, it can feel like a home.
I've always liked walking around in liminal spaces, like at this one christmas event the area just by where the bathroom was there was a staircase that went like 20 floors down with no hallways or doors at each floor, except right at the bottom with a fire exit
16:04 I can not stress how creepy it is to see your home town in this video. I drive past that school all the time and I see that photo all the time, but never knew the two were connected.
Agreed. 6:47 I have been inside this exact room inside Fun Zone when I was a little kid in 2005 and my parents have a picture of me inside that right side glass bubble.
3:40 True story, I stayed at this very hotel before a flight to Japan, back in February, and remember looking out our bottom floor room’s window, into this big space, I remember the grass and such, but I didn’t know it was actually the spot of the original photo at the time. The weird part is that I actually joked to my brother that it looked like something from the backrooms, only now I’m realising we were genuinely there 😂
One of the reasons these pictures are so impactful I think is because some of these places are closed down. It’s so sad to see something that feels so nostalgic closing down for good
It’s also kind of interesting when you realize that for a majority their lives, these buildings didn’t look like that. They had furniture, patrons, residents, etc. It’s just a single, fleeting moment that is now forever frozen in time.
As someone with DID, I think it’s really interesting how the internet captured the feeling of a switch so perfectly in liminal spaces. The space between identities is so disorienting and has a sort of familiar unfamiliarity. Like the world is tearing itself apart and building itself back up in another image, and you get caught in the midpoint where there’s a sense of structure, but it feels random and with no purpose
I think what constitutes a "liminal space" is the feeling of abandondment of a once inhabited and lively place, a place very often related to our childhood subconscious memories, places we never really paid attention to until we see them again and now abandoned, so it can invoke a feeling of unsettling nostalgia.
I remember always going to after school daycares and just thinking about them being abandoned gives me this sense of dread like "oh yeah, I can never go back there"
I don't know what's worse, the idea of being trapped in a lonely, almost infinitely-repeating, eerie-feeling place for eternity, or knowing that these places might be real.
I mean why would knowing these places exist bad? It's not like just because you know it exist it will kill you unless you have someone specifically keeping an eye on you and whenever you learn this thing they will throw you into the eternal torment.
honestly, knowing where they are takes the creepiness away for me. like, these are no longer The Waiting Room Of All Time, they're specific places that are perfectly mundane in their proper context.
Between the DK Country aquatic theme and the sight of Borders nterior, but nostalgic feels for someone who generally feels nothing for the past. Good job
Oh, note about the elder care facility that looks like a town: those are quite helpful for residents with Alzheimer's or dementia, as they mimic a town without the danger of a resident leaving the facility. The residents can freely enjoy community and a day-night cylce, without their memory troubles getting them hurt.
Firstly, I want to thank you for having me on this video! It was a lot of fun and hopefully we can do something like this again! And secondly, Wow! Dude I can’t believe how extensive this video is. I had no idea how much effort and time went into this. I absolutely love seeing the improvement in the quality of your videos. The intro especially was really well said and probably the best definition of Liminal Spaces I’ve ever heard. This video was super inspiring and makes me want to visit these places.
MAN! Thanks for sticking around and being so nice, it means so much. :) I’ll definitely reach out again for future videos. And.. the quality has definitely improved, thanks for noticing. My videos can be pretty janky at times, but this one is pretty clean cut.
@@JadenSalads I didn’t know you existed before seeing this Also, backrooms came from and old office sale, but it’s been demolished I think which lends to the vibe
I keep returning to this series, mainly because of the mystery and intrigue. Thanks for making these, it’s cool to know the origins of these locations. That and Liminal Spaces are so interesting.
I lived near a mall named "White Flint Mall," which is now demolished. There's a really popular liminal space picture of the food court where the floor is checkered, and there are neon lights lining the ceiling. I remember going there as a kid, and it's pretty sad to see it so empty. Pretty sure the Lord and Taylors there finally closed. There was a big fight over ownership so it stayed standing for a while.
I stayed at the Holiday in at Heathrow and you have no idea how scary it is to be walking around and suddenly have this massive wave of dread and déja-vu when you realise that you're standing in the exact place you see in scary images and videos. Shit had me fucked up. The uncanny valley was real
I’m pretty sure “The End” library doesn’t exist anymore because from what I’ve heard the place was demolished and some of the people set to the task got bored and decided to mess with the letters on the wall so they made it say “The End is Near” which explains the differences between the letters
oh my god thank you for this! every time I was seeing the first pic in the video (level 188) I kept thinking I have seen it in real life when I got stuck in London, but thought it was just false memories....turns out I actually did!
I live in Moldova🇲🇩, a post-soviet country. Sometimes when i go through yards between flats when it is about to get dark or when it is completely dark, it feels like a liminal space. Moreover, the corridors, stairs and elevators in our buildings give a really mysterios vibe. The scariest are hospital halls, usually long without light or with 2 or 3 lighbulbs. Even though these look like that, many of us like them, it makes us feel like home.
A lot of subway stations in the former east part of Berlin also have a really mysterious look and feel to them. The platforms are often extremely long but only badly lit. Also the walls often have those weird yellow-ish white tiles, making the place even more liminal. You can especially feel that when it's late at night and you missed your train and have to wait for the next one.
I took one look at the Lantern of Madison and knew it was a memory center. The lives of people suffering from Alzheimer and other memory effecting diseases can be improved significantly by tying into how the people used to live in their earlier years, the facilities that I've worked in painted halls like the sides of houses, hid the lights in cloud painted enclosures, and themed the cafeteria like a 50's diner. Lantern looks to have taken it to the extreme, beyond the obvious they have a full day/night cycle for the lights (this helps with sundowning), electric fireplaces and kitchenettes in the suites, a couple of false greens for putting, the independent living wing looks to be designed to look like a hotel, a couple of lounges (one styled like a cabin and the other like a bar), and an 80's styled salon. They've apparently been successful enough that they've opened additional facilities.
@@dancingheroes Safety of residents and others. For safety of the resident, people with Alzheimer's tend to either bolt or open up swinging when startled or confused, and if there's a busy street nearby... For safety of others, manic strength is a thing, I was put on workman's comp after a lady in a wheelchair ripped a fire extinguisher enclosure (not the extinguisher itself, the 'break in case of fire' box) out of a concrete wall and nailed me with it from about ten feet away, I was on my ass and had three cracked ribs trying to figure out what bus had hit me.
Liminal Spaces are one of the best things to exist. The fact that they give off an unsettling yet nostalgic feeling is amazing, and those two factors both combine very very well to create perfect horror in my opinion.
Speak for yourself. They all look like movie sets abandoned after a day's filming. What's creepy is learning the fact that they not only exist, but they exist for real, in a manner that real people could walk through them, instead of an actor acting like a place is real when the walls are wooden frames painted to look like they are make of bricks, mortar, and plaster.
@@mrs.shortcakestrawberries2557 I know. People have to at least eat some sort of nutritious meal while they're scared half to death, shitting themselves.
Your first paragraph is something almost nobody has ever talked about! Sure it destroys the magic in a way, as when one understands that they feel that eerie feeling is because they have never stopped to pay attention to that part of the world/building (because the architectures themselves never intended for a mid class hotel or even hospital corridor to look that much lively, as there's absolutely no need to waste money on that, but the spectator has usually witnessed that place through times when other people are there). But it's essential to understand the reason why we get that feeling. It's not that the backrooms are something that much extraordinary, but rather WE let that illusion inhabit our minds for various reasons that affect our mind at that moment! Excellent video!
When I was 14, me and my friend walked around our local mall before anything was open. I was definitely struck by how good I felt to be in that deserted, yet peaceful place. I am certainly one of those attracted to "in between" spaces
regarding how liminal spaces mostly affect north americans in terms of nostalgia: I was born and raised in asia and never went overseas, and those images still spark a sense of nostalgia in me. idk how much ppl from other countries can relate but in my experience a lot of countries really try to imitate America because it's the defacto role model, especially in media (seriously ask any foreign kid what they wanna do when they grow up and SO MANY will respond with something along the lines of "move to the US and become xyz" i really can't overstate how romanticized the US is in other countries) Foreign country media is like 50% local 50% hollywood. I grew up with american media, so I get nostalgic for those things as if it were part of my actual childhood. sorry if that doesn't make sense, it's a really weird experience to describe lol
@@gabrielcoventry4586 depends where in europe and how recently. My family is greek and italian. Growing up whenever i would visit those countries everybody i talked to wanted to go to america. I never understood it because i was born and raised in the US and i was like it aint that special believe me.
As someone who spent nearly his entire life in Southeast Asia, I completely understand what you mean and I love the way you worded your comment, it makes so much sense.
As a kid I wanted to go and live in America, but once I reached the age of 18-19... I lost all interest and actually don't want to visit it if I don't have to.@@MrSpotface
Learning that other people dream of bathrooms like that puts a chill down my spine. Already, they were pretty creepy - I've dreamed of pretty much the same bathroom since childhood, a large expanse with stalls forming a maze, so knowing that other people also do too creeps me out.
exactly! I dream about those bathrooms and showers all the time and I literally put a hand on my mouth in shock that I am not the only one with weird houses, bathrooms and buildings in my dreams
I freaked out a little when I first saw the "dead mall" image at 8:35, because it had an even more uncanny familiar feeling than normal. As it turns out, I actually had been there once. It's the Mountaineer Mall in West Virginia, and I'd stopped there on a road trip to try and find something to eat.
It feels so uncanny to me, like this humble Victorian church has been gutted and defiled for a dingy, nasty playplace. I’m so happy the new owners were able to make something beautiful out of the ashes!
I actually visited here when I was visiting my grandparents when I was like 10. It’s so bizarre to me that I’ve just had a memory unlocked from a liminal space video
I'm from Indonesia and I've been visit that Strawberry restaurant. It's a nice restaurant, good food too but fun fact the menu there has absolutely nothing to do with Strawberries, it is just for decoration and the food are mainly savory.
@@a_burning_rose yep, it was accordingly found in a website where a racetrack was in construction and they were taking down the old building and they took pictures before the old building was fully replaced and one of those pictures showed the infamous original backrooms picture and that's how it was found. Crazy since it's been 5 years the image was popular.
@@AltThrowawayAccount Some very open spaces can feel liminal too though, it doesn't have to be claustrophobic. Like, the infinite suburbs and infinite city streets levels of the backrooms are really weird too. I remember once I was in a mall that's about to close for the night, it was dark, empty, massive and open, and it felt very liminal
I think the magic of liminal spaces is mainly in the lighting, at some points there are bright lights, and at some points the place is void of lights at all. I think it truly puts the charm that liminal spaces give.
I love the backrooms as a concept so much, it’s so unique but what stopped it from being scary was me realizing these places definitely exist in real life or were computer generated 💀
@@basketcaseface813 tbh all the "entities" ruined it. the backrooms were meant to be empty spaces that bring you nostalgia while also having that weird creepy feeling to it, like something was off. when people started adding all of those entities it just went downhill. then again, the concept would be a bit boring without them
I used to get kinda unsettled by these photos, but after watching this video, I’m comforted by the fact that these are real places and by their history. Knowing the backstory of these places actually gives the photos more depth!
You didn't have to apologize for a "long" introduction, this video was straight to the point and had just the right amount of information about liminal spaces. I'm actually not used to this as most videos on TH-cam of this kind are way too long and filled with unnecessary information, so good job!
hi im indonesian, i once visited Asep Strawberry village Kedungora in my childhood around 2010. it blew my mind knowing one of backroom liminal space was actually inspired and took place there. i had fun going to Asep Strawberry village, it was a huge core memory i had about my childhood infact i still remember the lovely people i went there with and what outfit i wore that day. im glad this video came across, thank you so much for finding such a beautiful place :)
honestly the way you described liminal spaces really tingled my brain right there. i thought i had known everything there was to interpret, a liminal space is just empty and loney. but the way you described them made me imagine "somebody took a photo of a place where you just were, indicating they followed your exact steps." and that thought just made this a lot more disturbing
i remember going to watch the fnaf movie when it first came out. i went to the toilets about half way through the film and to my surprise as soon as i left the movie hall i was struck with an insane feeling that i could only link with the backrooms. its very eerie being in a place thats normally packed with people when its not. the only sign of "life" was a faint sound of popcorn popping. i get chills just thinking about it
Yeah, I feel like that and its super weird that the one at 14:00 I past by everyday and always assosciated it with that image. Really weird thinking these are real places and that i might have seen them.
I made the mistake of watching Kane Pixels in my room at night, and now I have paranoia. (oops) This video has relieved a lot of that fear. It’s nice to see the real locations and stories behind the liminal space photos and videos I’ve seen online. Thank you for the video! :)
I never expected to see a video talk about the rainbow fun house. What was once a big part of my childhood, is now something people all over can see. The incident of "death" was about the death slide in which somebody had broken their neck. I don't recall if that person had died, but I remember being scared of the sheer drop of a "slide" as a child, let alone how I feel when nearing 20 thinking I was one accident away from being paralysed at best.
Liminal spaces don’t make me feel uneasy nor do they give me nostalgic. When I see liminal spaces I see art. I start to appreciate the design of buildings and themes of the rooms or the location of the outside liminal space. It’s just art to me
Can confirm, the Fun Zone in NY was more jungle themed than the one in the liminal space picture. The animatronics are their own nightmare. They *never* worked right.
they probably weren't profitable. The place was always struggling. It really only catered to young children, and there was the more popular Adventure Land not that far away.
Jesus, the shot of the Scholastic book fair awakened a few forgotten memories. My schools would take each class one at a time to the library where it would be set up, and I was the one kid that never had the money to get anything, so while walking back to class the kids would make fun of me for going back to class empty handed. Happened pretty much every year with 1 or 2 exceptions.
@@nukirisame5298 well this is what technology does to you and bad friends making you into a bad person. I blame technology because it can decrease your social skills with other people. I love technology to but its one of my cons i hate about it.
Ah yes the Ol' -let's find out who's poor or has crappy parents- book fair. I believe that's what made me become a mini kleptomaniac. I'd steal pens and small stuff. Funny how our brain development works.
@@toidIllorTAmI actually probably started for me in 99. It may have happened before that too, but I honestly can't remember. Either way, the technology argument is not exactly relevant to this particular moment.
hey i just wanted to point out, the original image was from oshkosh, oklahoma and was an old furniture store before another company bought the building, and the image was inbetween the renovation, hence the "transition" part.
I think the shadows are what really creep me out about liminal spaces, most of the time it looks like lights were never installed in the first place, which makes the creepiness of the area seem purposeful, like it’s warning you about something in the area. The lack of people also add to the feeling that the area is unsafe. When it has nostalgic factors it almost feels like it’s luring tactic to get you to go in further. In other areas it seems as if an area is too un-detailed to be reality. All sounds insane I know, but that’s the psychology behind it.
I think a huge factor of the family of liminal spaces becoming so popular is that most of us were young in the mid-late 2000s, and our more concrete memories solidified just AFTER this period (for me, that was age 9/10 in 2011/2012). The general architecture, designs of various things, and overall aesthetic of buildings and places shifted around that time, so liminal spaces with that 2000s vibe feel like they're just on the edge of your memory. At least for me, personally.
We honestly need more horror games that focus on liminal spaces and the uneasiness of emptiness as a fear factor. A little off topic on the games part but this video just makes me want to have them.
The Garten of BanBan! the emptiness of the kindergarten is literally what I loved about that game! I talked about it in a comment section under a TH-camr who played it, but some people were like “it's a flaw in the game because it lacks atmosphere” Iirc they mean like the atmosphere of the game AND the atmosphere of an actual kindergarten. They're saying there should be some places where there's depth, not just have one lighting. And the place should have more pastel colors (the base color of the place is white or just one basic color) and have more furnitures. But I find this "lack of atmosphere" as exactly what makes it more unsettling because kindergartens normally look more colorful but this one doesn't - so, it captures that perfect “this is not a normal kindergarten” above the fact there are hidden facilities.
@@ishigami_senku I think the problem is that it focused too much on the liminal stuff, and when you were supposed to be jumpscared or scared in general by a monster, it wasn't as fulfilling in those departments, that's why it can be a flaw, if the game was meant to really feel eerie rather scary it's better off not needing jumpscares and if it happens to have them, they should be more suspenseful and unexpected to really induce fear into the player. I personally don't really hate the game, but I agree with people that it's was very lackluster in majority of what it attempted to do.
I'd like to see one where you walk through and the area changes over time, so like if at first you were in the backrooms yellow room and you found a door into an abandoned grocery store, which when you exited, was one of those images at 0:33 etc. Or like if by squeezing between two bookshelves in "The End", you might find a passage into the Poolrooms, where you could go down a waterslide and end up in an old indoor playground.
as someone from Indonesia , i can confirm that Asep Strawberry has a unique style of building. just different from any other restaurant here. FYI, you can find Asep Strawberry in few cities in Java Island, especially west java(they have multiple restaurant here which is nice).
Jared Pike is so good. What he creates is amazing and I love the look of his textures in those spaces. It's almost "too perfect" in a good way, but just enough so that I was able to tell they are obviously renders, but you can always trick your mind very easily when imagining them as real, which is why I love watching and looking at videos that use his work.
My jaw DROPPED upon learning of the Rainbow Funhouse renovation. I knew about it being a church and catching on fire so finding out it’s been given new life in such a bizarre way is amazing.
The play houses at IKEA in Australia are actually really fun! They are a little bit creepy with weird objects all around but I have lots of really cool memories at them.
Indonesian here. No problem, you have a heart to even recodnize AND admit your short-comings. Anyways, thank you for the video! I have wondered for awhile about these liminal spaces, to think one of my favorites was so close is astounding. Please work hard, I hope the best for you.
We were doing removal work for a school that was going to be closed for renovation. Every classroom and hallway was emptied of furniture, but all the little writings and drawings that the kids had left on most exposed surfaces over decades were still there, along with the hum of the ventilation system, reminding me that less than a week before the place was full of people. It definitely felt like a liminal space. It was empty, but you could still almost hear the echoes of all the life that used to go on there.
19:17 I WENT THERE SO MUCH AS A KID i never thought it looked liminal there is a glass box down a tunnel out of sight i used to watch my parents and people walk away as i tapped on the glass waving and trying to climb to the top of that birch tree thing but it's hollow inside with a ball pit that people used to dive in and swim around in but now days its basically always closed but still its just a normal play place in IKEA.
19:19 Fun fact about the IKEA play area: they’re usually called “Småland” (which translated to small land basically), which is a fitting name considering the demographic. But here’s the thing; Småland is an actual county in Sweden, and it’s just extremely wholesome to me. Might be a little boring, but maybe someone out there will enjoy this knowledge- They also all share the same type of decor as far as I’m aware, and they were the best part of IKEA for me as a child, and it’s so nice seeing something I can relate to experiencing as a European (even if that one was Australian-)
This is one of the best videos for liminal space enthusiasts! Similarly to you, I’ve also often pondered on the origins of different photos, ever since the first search for the Backrooms photo from DavidCrypt. It was really cool to see that some of the most popular photos now have confirmed locations, would love to visit some of them! Also, I think it’s worth mentioning that a couple of years ago the youtuber Shookey was the one that (i think) found the locations of Sanatorium Ingul and The Rainbow Funhouse. Again, great video, would love for this to turn into a series!
Thank you so much for the nice comment! There’s plenty of liminal spaces that I plan on visiting in the following years, I know it’d make for a great video and surreal experience. I’m also familiar with Shookey’s content, and I plan on reaching out to them for a feature in the next part of this series. They’re an OG of this type of content, and it’d be really cool to work with them.
That intro made me realize why my old job scared the shit out of me. It was a giant liminal space. I was a cleaner for a pretty standard workplace that I went to in the dead of night, shit was absolutely a liminal space in some areas. People say they get feeling of nostalgia from them, I just feel haunted.
They almost feel a little bittersweet. They look peaceful, while still feeling a touch eerie and unsettling. Like looking at your old, now empty bedroom one last time before your family moved out. Once familiar, now empty and somehow feeling changed. Forever frozen in a fleeting moment of time. Unrelated, but I think the first “backrooms” photo with the yellow-ish walls and carpet is a church basement.
Speaking of liminal spaces theres a phenomenon called the ‘sub solar point’ (lahaina noon in hawaii) where the sun is directly over head. Theres alot of creepy photos where objects dont have there shadows and it should definitely be a trend in this community.
The way you remembered the waterslides you had been to as being that image, even if they were not quite the same, makes a lot of sense. I can totally see the association becoming a false memory. This feeling itself is the most relatable part of the video to me.
I love liminal spaces. They seem nostalgic, empty, and familiar in a way not known by recent knowledge. As you said, it feels like you’ve been there in a dream or a past life. It gives out a weird feeling to everyone who sees them, and that’s why I love their weird, dreamy touch.
WOW I went to Hillside Intermediate School! I always thought that the image looked similar to the back exit near the music room, but thought I was just seeing things. They used that cone to prop the door because it was also near the recess area so kids could come in.
I was in the hospital about 3 days ago and bc I am still considered a minor, I went into the pediatric ER and had the style of the Lantern of Madison Senior Living home. I really enjoyed the way it looked since (despite Dreamcore/Liminal Spaces being considered a dead subculture) I still mildly enjoyed it. It was also very late at night when I was strolling down those eerie, empty hallways with just my doctor and mother present.
4:41 this actually freaked me out so much. i've never seen this image before in my whole life but ive genuinely seen this place in a dream. not in the typical angsty "ive seen this place before" or wtvr you used to see in weirdcore edits, but ive genuinely seen that place in a dream. like, a couple months ago. it was an incredibly vivid dream and i remember basically the whole thing, people i met, conversations i had, but specifically that place. i'm getting nervous 😭😭😭
You probably have seen a picture of it or similiar ones, but do not recall seeing it as it had no impact at the moment, then your brain used it for a dream. It's impossible for you to remember everything you see.
I had a bathroom dream a few weeks ago. It was at the 4th floor of this cyberpunk dystopian building. And inside looked like a furniture warehouse with toilets lined up to each other but they had been designed like lazy boy chairs lmao. Like a whole warehouse of lazy boy looking toilets just rows and rows of them
Same 😥 I haven’t been having dreams like that for a bit, I think because I’m less stressed irl or something, but they were unusual and freaked me out, along with multiple reoccurring dreams about convenience stores and malls (along with cities,)
Literally found this video first thing in the morning where I had a dream where the bathroom stalls were too short and people could just look over the partitions. Wacky stuff.
my first ever introduction to liminal spaces was actually when I was in a mall when it was closing. Seeing all of the stores with the closed garage doors in front of them with no people in sight and the light being more scarce in different areas I felt an uneasy feeling but also felt like I had seen it before and when I got home I was wondering if that was something others felt which brought me through the rabbit hole of liminal spaces! Very Epic
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When I hit 100K subscribers one day, I'll try and visit as many of these places as possible. NOW that's a good video idea.
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Underrated channel
remember me when you hit 100k, good channel.
cant wait for you to hit 100k subscribers that sounds banger
btw you are wrong, the backrooms origin photo has been found and debunked by multiple people.
you have no idea how long i’ve been waiting for someone to make a longer than five minute video of “finding liminal spaces”, and with actual locations and not just vague answers
they always go "hmm it looks liek this was taken in a hotel... idk what do you guys think"
@@doesthisIookinfected heavy on the “what do you guys think” like bro you making the video😭
@@loftwild4302 ONG💀
@@loftwild4302 this actually made me laugh out loud 💀
at least 3 years lol
I’d like to point out that the indoor neighborhood is almost certainly designed for people with dementia. A highly clinical setting can be extremely confusing and stressful for those suffering from dementia, so placing them in a more familiar and comforting setting can really help increase their quality of life
interesting never thought about that cool❤
yeah, that was my first thought seeing that. I remember seeing a place that emulated old 60's and 70's and all for old folk to be more "familiar" with.
Aw it’s actually really sweet that people would make changes for people struggling with it ngl
Joe Biden should visit that place then
@@DEVeloper_ACE holy shit……. Sleepy joe eliminated…… take that libtards
i’ve actually stayed at the level 188 hotel place on my vacation to europe last year, it was funny bc me and my friend saw it and were like “haha it looks like the backrooms” and took a bunch of pictures unknowing it was actually a backrooms location
No way, that’s funny
@@JadenSalads It's pronounced "Heethrow" not "Hethrow" btw.
It reminds me of a gmod map
@@chamodsamarasinghe1638 uh ok???
@@deadeye5156the gmod map was designed after it
The origin of the first backrooms photo was just found this month. Years of searching of this unsolved mystery have come to an end. The photo is of an old play called Rhonners. It is an Oshkosh Wisconsin. A new company moved into the building and was tearing everything down. (This is like 2000 or late 1990s) For whatever reason someone took that iconic photo of the "backrooms". Somehow it made it on to 4chan and the rest is history.
Fun fact about the seniors home, a lot of places aren’t like that, but they’ve found that for older people with Alzheimer’s or dimentia, having your apartment or room or whatever look like a distinct home helps them ground themselves and find their own room, rather than just having it look like a normal apartment or hotel where every door looks the same
This, especially with my grand parents the more we can make their life as ‘normal’ as possible the better they are able to take care of themselves
20:19 I have no clue what the context is because I was too young to remember, but I have a vivid memory of playing with one of those marble run toys as a kid in a basement that looked EXACTLY like this. The parents were all doing something upstairs and they put all of us kids in a room like that one. Wish I knew where or when...
Yeah but there's still no doubt something creepy about the grass turfs, internal gardens, and artificial sky lights. They could just build small neighborhoods for them where they have a real porch and can actually go outside and see real grass lol.
@Zer0 You run into problems with elopement and patient privacy with that, unfortunately
@@citricdolphin blud on the wrong video💀💀
I think the playgrounds, libraries, arcades etc are like childhood landmarks, and in a sense they DO represent a transitional period or place between. It’s THE transitional period! Your adolescence. The place between being a baby and being an adult. I think that’s why we feel nostalgic and yet a little uneasy when we see those pictures
Agreed! It's very interesting
I feel like there’s almost a de-mystifying aspect to it. As a kid, those places seem wonderful and almost magical at times. You would spend hours playing there, coming up with fantastical scenarios with your friends. But now when you view those places as an adult and devoid of any life, they look so wrong. You realize it’s just old carpet and hunks of plastic.
I believe that the reason why these photos give a nostalgic feeling to people is because when we see something like the Grand Canyon or Mount Rushmore or anything famous we have a very clear understanding of what that thing is. When your younger and your brain is still storing memories so you don’t piece something together clearly a like park or a empty field because those things aren’t important to you while your living through them you only start to cherish those memories as you get older therefore it is distorted so when you see a picture of any empty field or park or pool your brain misfires in those spots that childhood memories are stored
Now I don’t want to grow up ☹️
@@rake10Enjoy your youth haha! Go on lots of trips and never turn down a chance to try something new!
To me, liminal spaces aren’t as scary as other people make them out to be. They’re calming and like a gateway to the good old days of being an innocent kid. I wish I could walk around them and thanks to this video, I guess I could now.
For me it's more uncomfortable than scary
liminal spaces are a choice of path
moving along with transitions
many can be normal scary or
whatever etc
Only time I remember feeling uneasy or scared being a semi liminal space, was when I had to use the bathroom in elementary school and it was the middle of class so no one was in the halls. It super creeped me out as a child.
same, it’s kinda like a nice area of limbo in my mind. u don’t have to do anything at liminal spaces since they’re so temporary u can just kinda exist in the moment
Liminal spaces is the sense of childhood and nostalgia. It reminds you of a time where living was simply enough.
I randomly found this channel but boy am I glad I did, Liminal Spaces, forgotten aesthetics, this is a cosy channel that I can enjoy while sipping wine.
I think an important detail is that they feel like they shouldn't be empty. Either because they're normally a place you associate with having a lot of people (scholastic book fair, empty auditorium, etc) or because they're missing detail and feel like they've been "smoothed out" (the backrooms, the pool hallway). It makes our imaginations start to imagine what else /could/ be in those spaces
This is exactly what I was thinking
goooood
I think liminal spaces are a type of uncanny valley effect for environments rather than faces. Just like how robotic faces are creepy, liminal spaces are usually artificial, manmade spaces that are meant to imitate something else (fake nature, trees, kids play area). Humans have a collective awareness for what types of interiors are soothing. e.g. Nobody would consider churches or palaces liminal even though these locations are still widely used and frequented in modern day. In Europe there's the concept of "altbau" (old building) which are buildings dating beyond 100yrs and have high ceilings and other architectural markers. They never appear in liminal imagery even though many schools, homes, offices and institutes are housed in them. Maybe because those locations are old enough to feel authentic or soothing in collective human memory, which contrasts with the uglier "uncanny" spaces built in the past few decades.
True. Here first before this blows up😂 Liminal spaces are really interesting with their uncanny look. Wonder how proud the person that created this thing is😆
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Whoa, I didn't expect to see you in this type of video!
omg I used to love your videos so much
oh wow i didnt expect to see you on this kind of video lol i really like your interpretation though
This guy literally doxxed the backrooms what a legend
Now the backrooms will take revenge on us all.
@@nunyabiznes33 remember who doxed who? , the backrooms might be in danger , you've never been taught the power of the griddy
Hi! I uh came back 8 months later to fix the x issue, sorry if i caused anyone cringe but i unintentionally put 2 x's in doxed
And ofc im kinda joking im aware the backrooms is a strong big universe (of levels)
@@MmrGlitch i am slay moment griddy that can queen and king
@@ria5854 I hate TH-cam
@@FredbonFilms some people are just morons
The Heathrow Airport one is blowing my mind because i never realized it was a ceiling, i always saw it as a night sky 💀
Hey guys, I'm the person who took the photo at 6:28 ! (You cited a Reddit repost of my photo that I originally posted with the title, "The party's been over for years" on the LiminalSpace subreddit)
Anyway, about the photo:
I admire the amount of digging you've done to find the location of it - as I had no idea about the newer name "At-Play Amusement." With that being said, this photo was taken in 2014 while the place was still called "Fun Zone," although the place was barely operational anymore by that point. At the time, I assumed this was the original Music Express ride after getting ripped apart. Funny to find out now that it was actually a new ride being prepared for the rebranding of the place!
DAMN bro, just wanna say, you did one hell of a job!, That photo still gives me the creeps tho and props to it being added to the liminal space collection! 🔥
You should deserve more attention
Hey! Fun fact there is one in Lewisville, TX and it's been permanently closed since 2020 also all "Fun Zones" are permanently closed, I just wanted to say that and thank you for the information. :)
very cool
You are one of the best among the liminal photographers
thank you again for the collab! it was a lot of fun to learn the lore behind these photos
Great commentary!
@@Virtual_Odyssey thank you glad you thought so :)
good job! btw i like your pfp 👍
@@sombertoboggly I know this may be late but I also believe your voiceover is quite nice!
@@sombertoboggly you did really good :D
I love the concept of liminal spaces as an architect. Those images are an exemple of what should we avoid in our projects, so we don't give the uncany valley feeling on people
Or you could further explore the concept of liminal spaces in architecture, theres a kind of beauty in it.
@@greenbeans2424 Not really, because liminal place are useless space. When you give it a purpose how is not be a place where you only stay for a feel time. Its stop to be a liminal place and turn in a place with a purpose!
@@vladimirtepis I had a stroke reading that
I actuallly live in a luminal space
@@MrFuz_n_Nala and do you like it?
The 2nd dead mall photo when Kylie was introduced is called the landmark mall that I used to live next to, It got demolished in 2022 after 5 years of being abandoned. I used to shop there growing up
I've been in abandoned grocery stores before and they're very unsettling. It's just a giant warehouse filled with empty shelves and abandoned checkout registers. Definitely one of my most unique memories.
I was in an abandoned grocery store after a severe hurricane destroyed large portions of my home city and a lot of people who were without food, water, and power had busted into the grocery store to steal things to eat and drink. It's a very fucking weird place to be.
I worked at a mall and whenever I did early shifts , the empty mall gave me eerie vibes.
A grocery store recently close near where I live and I've gone to it very close before its actual closure, it is very weird to see and somewhat eerie to see empty shelves with some lasting items and only a few employees keeping up with the remaining stocks to sell. It's definitely not as much as most images you can see online, but it really does feel weird to be physically present in one of those
9:26 As someone from Russia, I can tell you that a lot of Soviet-era sanatoriums have these very liminal-looking swimming pools and spa rooms. The gloomy lighting, the walls/floors/ceilings made of those little square tiles, the murky-looking water. I recently re-visited a Soviet-era sanatorium near Moscow my family used to frequent when I was a child, and which gave me a lot of liminal dreams over the years. They'd refurbished some of it, but a lot of those liminal features in architecture, design and overall look and feel remain. I took a lot of photos for old times' sake.
You don't know how lucky you are.
BACK IN THE US- BACK IN THE US- BACK IN THE USSR (Dananananananana)
Definitely! I feel like pre-communist Russian buildings have this "be happy you are suffering!" Vibe to the buildings. I've noticed they used bright colors, mosaics of false victories, play happy music every other hour in certain places- just screams liminal to me.
@@toidIllorTAmI Yeah, the benefit to the Communist architecture is that it's usually a lot more straightforward and utilitarian.
I remember being on a summer camp in this really old obscure hotel on polish seaside. the photos of this one being empty would have gone sooo viral
I remember going to a sanatorium as a child and my memories of it are so liminal, lots of white everywhere, the empty room with a bath full of narzan.. think of the Hawkins lab in stranger things 😂
Honestly this video made the Lantern of Madison picture go from spooky to heart warmingly wholesome. The fact they put that much effort into creating a place of familiarity for elders instead of having them live in a near sterile clinical environment, that can truly mean a lot to the seniors living their final days in that place. Instead of just a room, it can feel like a home.
I've always liked walking around in liminal spaces, like at this one christmas event the area just by where the bathroom was there was a staircase that went like 20 floors down with no hallways or doors at each floor, except right at the bottom with a fire exit
16:04 I can not stress how creepy it is to see your home town in this video. I drive past that school all the time and I see that photo all the time, but never knew the two were connected.
I was looking for this exact comment lol
true, ive literally been in that arcade at the lansing mall
No way that’s my home town to and I never knew that
Agreed. 6:47 I have been inside this exact room inside Fun Zone when I was a little kid in 2005 and my parents have a picture of me inside that right side glass bubble.
@@6z0 I live 5 miles away from valley worlds of fun and had one of my birthdays their so I was relivied to find out it was not a liminal photo.
3:40 True story, I stayed at this very hotel before a flight to Japan, back in February, and remember looking out our bottom floor room’s window, into this big space, I remember the grass and such, but I didn’t know it was actually the spot of the original photo at the time. The weird part is that I actually joked to my brother that it looked like something from the backrooms, only now I’m realising we were genuinely there 😂
Imagine an old one thinking: Why did my kid sent me a photo of this hotel? Do they want me to pay on a trip?
From one right hand drive country to another! That's good stuff! 😌
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One of the reasons these pictures are so impactful I think is because some of these places are closed down. It’s so sad to see something that feels so nostalgic closing down for good
It’s also kind of interesting when you realize that for a majority their lives, these buildings didn’t look like that. They had furniture, patrons, residents, etc. It’s just a single, fleeting moment that is now forever frozen in time.
Agreed
@@HeyLeFay you said it best
As someone with DID, I think it’s really interesting how the internet captured the feeling of a switch so perfectly in liminal spaces. The space between identities is so disorienting and has a sort of familiar unfamiliarity. Like the world is tearing itself apart and building itself back up in another image, and you get caught in the midpoint where there’s a sense of structure, but it feels random and with no purpose
I think what constitutes a "liminal space" is the feeling of abandondment of a once inhabited and lively place, a place very often related to our childhood subconscious memories, places we never really paid attention to until we see them again and now abandoned, so it can invoke a feeling of unsettling nostalgia.
I remember always going to after school daycares and just thinking about them being abandoned gives me this sense of dread like "oh yeah, I can never go back there"
Omg YES
I don't know what's worse, the idea of being trapped in a lonely, almost infinitely-repeating, eerie-feeling place for eternity, or knowing that these places might be real.
Me neither. Though they look cool in pictures, places like this really freak me out
I mean why would knowing these places exist bad?
It's not like just because you know it exist it will kill you unless you have someone specifically keeping an eye on you and whenever you learn this thing they will throw you into the eternal torment.
honestly, knowing where they are takes the creepiness away for me. like, these are no longer The Waiting Room Of All Time, they're specific places that are perfectly mundane in their proper context.
@@Casual_Fluke Exactly
worse than that is finding out that the place smells like wee
6:48 as someone who’s been to a fun zone near closing when everyone is leaving it really does look like a liminal space
I bet it’s a weird feeling to see with your own eyes, but cool nonetheless
@@JadenSalads indeed
Lol nice pfp I recognize it from a quackity video
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@@Lucidly_ og for that when he was still in his toon town pfp
Between the DK Country aquatic theme and the sight of Borders nterior, but nostalgic feels for someone who generally feels nothing for the past. Good job
The fact Japan is so clean that water flooding a subway looks like a well-kept swimming pool, is pretty neat.
Japans water is about as clean as a used toilet. It's not only them. And they don't even near having the cleanest water.
That water was really dirty btw
@@Planetes910 _"looks like..."_ 💀💥🤖
@@defeatSpace idk wtf that means
@mr_sm1ley910 the bite of '87?
Oh, note about the elder care facility that looks like a town: those are quite helpful for residents with Alzheimer's or dementia, as they mimic a town without the danger of a resident leaving the facility. The residents can freely enjoy community and a day-night cylce, without their memory troubles getting them hurt.
looks like it could do with some proper skylights
Firstly, I want to thank you for having me on this video! It was a lot of fun and hopefully we can do something like this again! And secondly, Wow! Dude I can’t believe how extensive this video is. I had no idea how much effort and time went into this. I absolutely love seeing the improvement in the quality of your videos. The intro especially was really well said and probably the best definition of Liminal Spaces I’ve ever heard. This video was super inspiring and makes me want to visit these places.
MAN! Thanks for sticking around and being so nice, it means so much. :) I’ll definitely reach out again for future videos.
And.. the quality has definitely improved, thanks for noticing. My videos can be pretty janky at times, but this one is pretty clean cut.
Yo bro great commentary
@@Virtual_Odyssey Factoid. We need respect on Adrian's name!
@@JadenSalads I didn’t know you existed before seeing this
Also, backrooms came from and old office sale, but it’s been demolished I think which lends to the vibe
@@JadenSalads yo dude I have some information to the house at 20:18 due to it being my cousins house, feel free to ask me anything
I keep returning to this series, mainly because of the mystery and intrigue. Thanks for making these, it’s cool to know the origins of these locations. That and Liminal Spaces are so interesting.
I lived near a mall named "White Flint Mall," which is now demolished. There's a really popular liminal space picture of the food court where the floor is checkered, and there are neon lights lining the ceiling. I remember going there as a kid, and it's pretty sad to see it so empty. Pretty sure the Lord and Taylors there finally closed. There was a big fight over ownership so it stayed standing for a while.
I know what you’re talking about! That’s awesome
I went there before it closed and it was pretty weird but cool
Woah, I'll have to check this one out and add it to the next episode of the series! Thank you :)
@@JadenSalads next episode?!
Oh my lord. It’s the popular liminal space photo, that’s awesome.
I stayed at the Holiday in at Heathrow and you have no idea how scary it is to be walking around and suddenly have this massive wave of dread and déja-vu when you realise that you're standing in the exact place you see in scary images and videos. Shit had me fucked up. The uncanny valley was real
Pov you play evade: ...
@@cats_n_cream2145tf is that
@@JoacoG11it’s a game in roblox where there’s different maps and you run away from images
You don’t know what the uncanny valley is.
I hope you can pronounce it correctly.
I’m pretty sure “The End” library doesn’t exist anymore because from what I’ve heard the place was demolished and some of the people set to the task got bored and decided to mess with the letters on the wall so they made it say “The End is Near” which explains the differences between the letters
The end is near photo and video are fake
Is a 3D render 😭
oh my god thank you for this!
every time I was seeing the first pic in the video (level 188) I kept thinking I have seen it in real life when I got stuck in London, but thought it was just false memories....turns out I actually did!
I live in Moldova🇲🇩, a post-soviet country.
Sometimes when i go through yards between flats when it is about to get dark or when it is completely dark, it feels like a liminal space.
Moreover, the corridors, stairs and elevators in our buildings give a really mysterios vibe.
The scariest are hospital halls, usually long without light or with 2 or 3 lighbulbs.
Even though these look like that, many of us like them, it makes us feel like home.
A lot of subway stations in the former east part of Berlin also have a really mysterious look and feel to them. The platforms are often extremely long but only badly lit. Also the walls often have those weird yellow-ish white tiles, making the place even more liminal. You can especially feel that when it's late at night and you missed your train and have to wait for the next one.
Hope to visit moldova one Day! I love the post soviet structure
@@marcelodiaz5006 That's heartwarming!🇲🇩🤝Every Country!
@@davidpopovici7784 hope you’re well! Thanks for the comment :)
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I took one look at the Lantern of Madison and knew it was a memory center.
The lives of people suffering from Alzheimer and other memory effecting diseases can be improved significantly by tying into how the people used to live in their earlier years, the facilities that I've worked in painted halls like the sides of houses, hid the lights in cloud painted enclosures, and themed the cafeteria like a 50's diner. Lantern looks to have taken it to the extreme, beyond the obvious they have a full day/night cycle for the lights (this helps with sundowning), electric fireplaces and kitchenettes in the suites, a couple of false greens for putting, the independent living wing looks to be designed to look like a hotel, a couple of lounges (one styled like a cabin and the other like a bar), and an 80's styled salon. They've apparently been successful enough that they've opened additional facilities.
just go to a real place, why matrix it?
@@dancingheroes These people can't necessarily be out in public. They get confused very easily at some point of their disease.
@@dancingheroes Safety of residents and others.
For safety of the resident, people with Alzheimer's tend to either bolt or open up swinging when startled or confused, and if there's a busy street nearby...
For safety of others, manic strength is a thing, I was put on workman's comp after a lady in a wheelchair ripped a fire extinguisher enclosure (not the extinguisher itself, the 'break in case of fire' box) out of a concrete wall and nailed me with it from about ten feet away, I was on my ass and had three cracked ribs trying to figure out what bus had hit me.
@@omegaprime223 Holy shit lmao
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Liminal Spaces are one of the best things to exist. The fact that they give off an unsettling yet nostalgic feeling is amazing, and those two factors both combine very very well to create perfect horror in my opinion.
Speak for yourself. They all look like movie sets abandoned after a day's filming. What's creepy is learning the fact that they not only exist, but they exist for real, in a manner that real people could walk through them, instead of an actor acting like a place is real when the walls are wooden frames painted to look like they are make of bricks, mortar, and plaster.
The scariest part to me is the wasted space for a potential McDonalds
@@mrs.shortcakestrawberries2557 LMAOO
@@mrs.shortcakestrawberries2557 I know. People have to at least eat some sort of nutritious meal while they're scared half to death, shitting themselves.
The backrooms are scared of this guy
Your first paragraph is something almost nobody has ever talked about! Sure it destroys the magic in a way, as when one understands that they feel that eerie feeling is because they have never stopped to pay attention to that part of the world/building (because the architectures themselves never intended for a mid class hotel or even hospital corridor to look that much lively, as there's absolutely no need to waste money on that, but the spectator has usually witnessed that place through times when other people are there). But it's essential to understand the reason why we get that feeling. It's not that the backrooms are something that much extraordinary, but rather WE let that illusion inhabit our minds for various reasons that affect our mind at that moment! Excellent video!
When I was 14, me and my friend walked around our local mall before anything was open. I was definitely struck by how good I felt to be in that deserted, yet peaceful place. I am certainly one of those attracted to "in between" spaces
regarding how liminal spaces mostly affect north americans in terms of nostalgia: I was born and raised in asia and never went overseas, and those images still spark a sense of nostalgia in me. idk how much ppl from other countries can relate but in my experience a lot of countries really try to imitate America because it's the defacto role model, especially in media (seriously ask any foreign kid what they wanna do when they grow up and SO MANY will respond with something along the lines of "move to the US and become xyz" i really can't overstate how romanticized the US is in other countries) Foreign country media is like 50% local 50% hollywood. I grew up with american media, so I get nostalgic for those things as if it were part of my actual childhood. sorry if that doesn't make sense, it's a really weird experience to describe lol
The US sentiment is literally the opposite in Europe
@@gabrielcoventry4586 depends where in europe and how recently. My family is greek and italian. Growing up whenever i would visit those countries everybody i talked to wanted to go to america. I never understood it because i was born and raised in the US and i was like it aint that special believe me.
As someone who spent nearly his entire life in Southeast Asia, I completely understand what you mean and I love the way you worded your comment, it makes so much sense.
As a kid I wanted to go and live in America, but once I reached the age of 18-19... I lost all interest and actually don't want to visit it if I don't have to.@@MrSpotface
I mean.. growing up in West-Europe.. some of these images are relatable, but some not at all..
Learning that other people dream of bathrooms like that puts a chill down my spine. Already, they were pretty creepy - I've dreamed of pretty much the same bathroom since childhood, a large expanse with stalls forming a maze, so knowing that other people also do too creeps me out.
exactly! I dream about those bathrooms and showers all the time and I literally put a hand on my mouth in shock that I am not the only one with weird houses, bathrooms and buildings in my dreams
Literally had a dream last night where the stalls were lined up in a grid and were too short like in the video
The bathroom labyrinth is so real ! had that in my dreams too
i know exactly where that hallway is from at 0:10, its at a church in southeast tennessee
I freaked out a little when I first saw the "dead mall" image at 8:35, because it had an even more uncanny familiar feeling than normal. As it turns out, I actually had been there once. It's the Mountaineer Mall in West Virginia, and I'd stopped there on a road trip to try and find something to eat.
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really cool, dude. like, imagine figuring out you've been to a place like that when it could've existed in an entirely different part of the world
I remember this place from a dream
@@person8800same
Did you find something to eat?
The Rainbow Funhouse images are crazy! The contrast of beautiful gothic architecture and garish rainbow plastic is so interesting to me
It feels so uncanny to me, like this humble Victorian church has been gutted and defiled for a dingy, nasty playplace. I’m so happy the new owners were able to make something beautiful out of the ashes!
I actually visited here when I was visiting my grandparents when I was like 10. It’s so bizarre to me that I’ve just had a memory unlocked from a liminal space video
@@brandonmartin8409 legit same had an awakening seeing those blue stairs
It's been transformed into a beautiful home, you can find pictures of the inside now and it is COMPLETELY different
I'm from Indonesia and I've been visit that Strawberry restaurant. It's a nice restaurant, good food too but fun fact the menu there has absolutely nothing to do with Strawberries, it is just for decoration and the food are mainly savory.
ADA ASEP STOBERI COY 🥵🥵🥵
They should start making stuff with strawberries
Eleuh eleuh... teu nyangki pisan abdi mendakan asep stroberi dina vidio yutub tentang liminal space
@@atthariqinsanulhaq ayo watdehel
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Here back after the og backrooms image was found
Yeah
The og image was found?
@@a_burning_rose yep, it was accordingly found in a website where a racetrack was in construction and they were taking down the old building and they took pictures before the old building was fully replaced and one of those pictures showed the infamous original backrooms picture and that's how it was found. Crazy since it's been 5 years the image was popular.
@@Mr.Koolaidlover Is there a link?
@@EarthwormShandy uhh I don't have the link however I do know a website somewhere.
Fun Fact:If you stay in school after lessons for long enough you can make some pretty cool liminal space photos.
not on my school though, its very open, so it doesn't feel very liminal
@@AltThrowawayAccount Some very open spaces can feel liminal too though, it doesn't have to be claustrophobic. Like, the infinite suburbs and infinite city streets levels of the backrooms are really weird too. I remember once I was in a mall that's about to close for the night, it was dark, empty, massive and open, and it felt very liminal
Honestly my school is barely liminal. Like, there's like 1 or 2 areas where it looks liminal but not rlly.
i have like 1 photo from my old school
How??
I think the magic of liminal spaces is mainly in the lighting, at some points there are bright lights, and at some points the place is void of lights at all. I think it truly puts the charm that liminal spaces give.
I love the backrooms as a concept so much, it’s so unique but what stopped it from being scary was me realizing these places definitely exist in real life or were computer generated 💀
And the youtube kids ruining it
@@sanchez5698 god, the partygoers ruined it so badly.
@@basketcaseface813:)
It ain't supposed to be scary in the first place
@@basketcaseface813 tbh all the "entities" ruined it.
the backrooms were meant to be empty spaces that bring you nostalgia while also having that weird creepy feeling to it, like something was off. when people started adding all of those entities it just went downhill.
then again, the concept would be a bit boring without them
I stayed in holiday inn in June and I thought I had seen this before on the Internet and never thought of it again until this video.
Hearing the phrase "grew up in the early 2010's" did more than any liminal space could to me lmao
Me too 😅
hit me hard ngl
was a kid at that time too but not sure why that time period specifically?
@@lemonstranglerBecause the early 2010s were recent
@@lemonstrangler Give it a few years and you’ll understand the feeling.
I used to get kinda unsettled by these photos, but after watching this video, I’m comforted by the fact that these are real places and by their history. Knowing the backstory of these places actually gives the photos more depth!
60 likes and no comments? I’ll change that
You didn't have to apologize for a "long" introduction, this video was straight to the point and had just the right amount of information about liminal spaces. I'm actually not used to this as most videos on TH-cam of this kind are way too long and filled with unnecessary information, so good job!
hi im indonesian, i once visited Asep Strawberry village Kedungora in my childhood around 2010. it blew my mind knowing one of backroom liminal space was actually inspired and took place there. i had fun going to Asep Strawberry village, it was a huge core memory i had about my childhood infact i still remember the lovely people i went there with and what outfit i wore that day. im glad this video came across, thank you so much for finding such a beautiful place :)
honestly the way you described liminal spaces really tingled my brain right there. i thought i had known everything there was to interpret, a liminal space is just empty and loney. but the way you described them made me imagine "somebody took a photo of a place where you just were, indicating they followed your exact steps." and that thought just made this a lot more disturbing
i remember going to watch the fnaf movie when it first came out. i went to the toilets about half way through the film and to my surprise as soon as i left the movie hall i was struck with an insane feeling that i could only link with the backrooms. its very eerie being in a place thats normally packed with people when its not. the only sign of "life" was a faint sound of popcorn popping. i get chills just thinking about it
It’s so weird but cool to know that a lot of these are all actual places. I was convinced that most of these were made in Photoshop or something.😅
same, some seemed to have a “trapped “ vibe with absolute no windows or doors to leave which makes it look like Ai or photoshop
or AI generated.
Yeah, I feel like that and its super weird that the one at 14:00 I past by everyday and always assosciated it with that image. Really weird thinking these are real places and that i might have seen them.
@@blackdragoncyrus some of these photos were awed at in the 90s and earlier dude......a.i. generated.... gimme a break
@@h3corptempbutevadinganassbro no backrooms photos have dates on them so nobody knew the location or date of the picture. that’s why we are here homie
I made the mistake of watching Kane Pixels in my room at night, and now I have paranoia. (oops)
This video has relieved a lot of that fear. It’s nice to see the real locations and stories behind the liminal space photos and videos I’ve seen online.
Thank you for the video! :)
I never expected to see a video talk about the rainbow fun house. What was once a big part of my childhood, is now something people all over can see.
The incident of "death" was about the death slide in which somebody had broken their neck. I don't recall if that person had died, but I remember being scared of the sheer drop of a "slide" as a child, let alone how I feel when nearing 20 thinking I was one accident away from being paralysed at best.
I didn't expect to see it mentioned or another person comment going there too! RIP rainbow fun house
@@dreamylunaa i know man its weird as hell seeing somewhere so close on a video like this.
For me, the liminal aesthetic often embraces the beauty of in-between moments that evoke a feeling of nostalgia :)
Definitely transitional feelings frozen in time by art or architecture, things we’d normally feel but get to experience longer through the art
Liminal spaces don’t make me feel uneasy nor do they give me nostalgic. When I see liminal spaces I see art. I start to appreciate the design of buildings and themes of the rooms or the location of the outside liminal space. It’s just art to me
Eww
@@JohnDoe-ky4qk wdym ew
@ash 💗 color me unique, but I don't find empty malls, subway spaces and basements with yellow wallpaper and flickering lights particularly artsy
Ive stayed in that hotel when I was a kid. Never knew itd become a backrooms level :O
Can confirm, the Fun Zone in NY was more jungle themed than the one in the liminal space picture.
The animatronics are their own nightmare. They *never* worked right.
they probably weren't profitable. The place was always struggling. It really only catered to young children, and there was the more popular Adventure Land not that far away.
The animatronics get a bit quirky at night.
WAS THAT THE BITE OF ‘87?????
perhaps someone stuffed children into the animatronics
I wish the Poolrooms were real. What a cool concept, just an entire building full of swimmable passages.
Honestly would be a fun dreamscape swim
Jesus, the shot of the Scholastic book fair awakened a few forgotten memories. My schools would take each class one at a time to the library where it would be set up, and I was the one kid that never had the money to get anything, so while walking back to class the kids would make fun of me for going back to class empty handed. Happened pretty much every year with 1 or 2 exceptions.
kids suck man. im sorry that happened to you
@@nukirisame5298 well this is what technology does to you and bad friends making you into a bad person. I blame technology because it can decrease your social skills with other people. I love technology to but its one of my cons i hate about it.
Ah yes the Ol' -let's find out who's poor or has crappy parents- book fair. I believe that's what made me become a mini kleptomaniac. I'd steal pens and small stuff. Funny how our brain development works.
@@heribertovizcaino4682 this has nothing to do with technology. What are you talking about? This is a BOOK FAIR probably from 2002!
@@toidIllorTAmI actually probably started for me in 99. It may have happened before that too, but I honestly can't remember. Either way, the technology argument is not exactly relevant to this particular moment.
hey i just wanted to point out, the original image was from oshkosh, oklahoma and was an old furniture store before another company bought the building, and the image was inbetween the renovation, hence the "transition" part.
Yeeeeeep! Just watched a video on it!
I think the shadows are what really creep me out about liminal spaces, most of the time it looks like lights were never installed in the first place, which makes the creepiness of the area seem purposeful, like it’s warning you about something in the area. The lack of people also add to the feeling that the area is unsafe. When it has nostalgic factors it almost feels like it’s luring tactic to get you to go in further. In other areas it seems as if an area is too un-detailed to be reality. All sounds insane I know, but that’s the psychology behind it.
I think a huge factor of the family of liminal spaces becoming so popular is that most of us were young in the mid-late 2000s, and our more concrete memories solidified just AFTER this period (for me, that was age 9/10 in 2011/2012). The general architecture, designs of various things, and overall aesthetic of buildings and places shifted around that time, so liminal spaces with that 2000s vibe feel like they're just on the edge of your memory. At least for me, personally.
Noooo you’re right, they give an uncanny feel of deja vu in their own way
that makes a lot of sense honestly, the liminal feeling is your brain just barely being able to reminisce about something
This is exactly what I was thinking! These remind me of something I just barely got to see that quickly went away, adding to that “transient” feeling
We honestly need more horror games that focus on liminal spaces and the uneasiness of emptiness as a fear factor. A little off topic on the games part but this video just makes me want to have them.
The Garten of BanBan! the emptiness of the kindergarten is literally what I loved about that game! I talked about it in a comment section under a TH-camr who played it, but some people were like “it's a flaw in the game because it lacks atmosphere” Iirc they mean like the atmosphere of the game AND the atmosphere of an actual kindergarten. They're saying there should be some places where there's depth, not just have one lighting. And the place should have more pastel colors (the base color of the place is white or just one basic color) and have more furnitures. But I find this "lack of atmosphere" as exactly what makes it more unsettling because kindergartens normally look more colorful but this one doesn't - so, it captures that perfect “this is not a normal kindergarten” above the fact there are hidden facilities.
@@ishigami_senku I think the problem is that it focused too much on the liminal stuff, and when you were supposed to be jumpscared or scared in general by a monster, it wasn't as fulfilling in those departments, that's why it can be a flaw, if the game was meant to really feel eerie rather scary it's better off not needing jumpscares and if it happens to have them, they should be more suspenseful and unexpected to really induce fear into the player. I personally don't really hate the game, but I agree with people that it's was very lackluster in majority of what it attempted to do.
Roblox has it
I'd like to see one where you walk through and the area changes over time, so like if at first you were in the backrooms yellow room and you found a door into an abandoned grocery store, which when you exited, was one of those images at 0:33 etc.
Or like if by squeezing between two bookshelves in "The End", you might find a passage into the Poolrooms, where you could go down a waterslide and end up in an old indoor playground.
Maybe not use them to scare...but to comfort
Wow, the transformation of the former Rainbow Funhouse interior is UNREAL. It went from the pit of stank to the pinnacle of swank!
as someone from Indonesia , i can confirm that Asep Strawberry has a unique style of building. just different from any other restaurant here. FYI, you can find Asep Strawberry in few cities in Java Island, especially west java(they have multiple restaurant here which is nice).
gw baru tau tntang restoran asep stroberi ini .....
Now this is unusual. Adrian was a friend of mine and my brother’s from childhood, I’m impressed to see him appear in such a popular video
He’s a cool guy
Crazy to see some of these in different angles, almost removes the uneasiness completely…almost
Agreed.. but I hope this video doesn’t kill the ‘eerie’ or ‘unsettling’ vibes for people who like liminal space images.
@@JadenSalads Haha, no matter what they’re still eerie to me! Thanks for the video and the high quality!
Jared Pike is so good. What he creates is amazing and I love the look of his textures in those spaces. It's almost "too perfect" in a good way, but just enough so that I was able to tell they are obviously renders, but you can always trick your mind very easily when imagining them as real, which is why I love watching and looking at videos that use his work.
My jaw DROPPED upon learning of the Rainbow Funhouse renovation. I knew about it being a church and catching on fire so finding out it’s been given new life in such a bizarre way is amazing.
The play houses at IKEA in Australia are actually really fun! They are a little bit creepy with weird objects all around but I have lots of really cool memories at them.
IKEA is just a wholesale liminal space
Same!
Indonesian here. No problem, you have a heart to even recodnize AND admit your short-comings.
Anyways, thank you for the video! I have wondered for awhile about these liminal spaces, to think one of my favorites was so close is astounding. Please work hard, I hope the best for you.
❤️❤️ Thank you! I will have more good videos soon :)
liminal also sometimes means when something is nostalgic and creepy at the same time
it also looks like a forgotten memory which has been found again
We were doing removal work for a school that was going to be closed for renovation. Every classroom and hallway was emptied of furniture, but all the little writings and drawings that the kids had left on most exposed surfaces over decades were still there, along with the hum of the ventilation system, reminding me that less than a week before the place was full of people. It definitely felt like a liminal space. It was empty, but you could still almost hear the echoes of all the life that used to go on there.
19:17 I WENT THERE SO MUCH AS A KID i never thought it looked liminal there is a glass box down a tunnel out of sight i used to watch my parents and people walk away as i tapped on the glass waving and trying to climb to the top of that birch tree thing but it's hollow inside with a ball pit that people used to dive in and swim around in but now days its basically always closed but still its just a normal play place in IKEA.
That’s really cool! I would’ve freaked out if I saw a popular liminal space that I’ve actually visited
Yeah I’m sure I have been in that place too
another perthian i see
It so nostalgic for me as well!
19:19 Fun fact about the IKEA play area: they’re usually called “Småland” (which translated to small land basically), which is a fitting name considering the demographic. But here’s the thing;
Småland is an actual county in Sweden, and it’s just extremely wholesome to me. Might be a little boring, but maybe someone out there will enjoy this knowledge-
They also all share the same type of decor as far as I’m aware, and they were the best part of IKEA for me as a child, and it’s so nice seeing something I can relate to experiencing as a European (even if that one was Australian-)
Coola grejer asså
The reason I felt like i’d been to those was because I literally have been 😭 my dad would drop me off at the IKEA play place and then go shopping
this video is amazing i really enjoyed watching it :)
Honestly, I have respect for anyone or company that is willing to perform the maintenance to have an authentic Rock-a-fire explosion band
This is one of the best videos for liminal space enthusiasts! Similarly to you, I’ve also often pondered on the origins of different photos, ever since the first search for the Backrooms photo from DavidCrypt. It was really cool to see that some of the most popular photos now have confirmed locations, would love to visit some of them! Also, I think it’s worth mentioning that a couple of years ago the youtuber Shookey was the one that (i think) found the locations of Sanatorium Ingul and The Rainbow Funhouse. Again, great video, would love for this to turn into a series!
Thank you so much for the nice comment! There’s plenty of liminal spaces that I plan on visiting in the following years, I know it’d make for a great video and surreal experience.
I’m also familiar with Shookey’s content, and I plan on reaching out to them for a feature in the next part of this series. They’re an OG of this type of content, and it’d be really cool to work with them.
19:33 OHHHHHH- THATS MY ONE!!! I USED TO GO THERE ALL THE TIME AND NOW ITS A POPULAR LIMINAL SPACE!? BRO I AM SO HAPPY! THIS IS AMAZING!!!
Same
Can u show ur pic of u went there
We have one, wich looks close to that one in germany, i compleatly forgott ever going there, it was fun.
I used to go to that funzone in farmingdale as a kid. That shocked the hell out of me when you brought it up lol
That intro made me realize why my old job scared the shit out of me. It was a giant liminal space. I was a cleaner for a pretty standard workplace that I went to in the dead of night, shit was absolutely a liminal space in some areas. People say they get feeling of nostalgia from them, I just feel haunted.
Liminal space doesn't make me feel uncomfortable or uneasy it actually makes me feel like a good place to get away from everything and everyone
damn not me, i would actually cry and piss myself
@@owihinape they just make me feel sad because the idea of luminal spaces have been ruined by cringy internet kids who use tik tok all the time.
You’re so quirky
Same, they're sort of ... comforting.
They almost feel a little bittersweet. They look peaceful, while still feeling a touch eerie and unsettling. Like looking at your old, now empty bedroom one last time before your family moved out. Once familiar, now empty and somehow feeling changed. Forever frozen in a fleeting moment of time.
Unrelated, but I think the first “backrooms” photo with the yellow-ish walls and carpet is a church basement.
Speaking of liminal spaces theres a phenomenon called the ‘sub solar point’ (lahaina noon in hawaii) where the sun is directly over head.
Theres alot of creepy photos where objects dont have there shadows and it should definitely be a trend in this community.
congrats on the 5M+ views!!!!
The way you remembered the waterslides you had been to as being that image, even if they were not quite the same, makes a lot of sense. I can totally see the association becoming a false memory. This feeling itself is the most relatable part of the video to me.
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I love liminal spaces. They seem nostalgic, empty, and familiar in a way not known by recent knowledge. As you said, it feels like you’ve been there in a dream or a past life. It gives out a weird feeling to everyone who sees them, and that’s why I love their weird, dreamy touch.
WOW I went to Hillside Intermediate School! I always thought that the image looked similar to the back exit near the music room, but thought I was just seeing things. They used that cone to prop the door because it was also near the recess area so kids could come in.
Eisenhower is better lol
I was in the hospital about 3 days ago and bc I am still considered a minor, I went into the pediatric ER and had the style of the Lantern of Madison Senior Living home. I really enjoyed the way it looked since (despite Dreamcore/Liminal Spaces being considered a dead subculture) I still mildly enjoyed it. It was also very late at night when I was strolling down those eerie, empty hallways with just my doctor and mother present.
4:41 this actually freaked me out so much. i've never seen this image before in my whole life but ive genuinely seen this place in a dream. not in the typical angsty "ive seen this place before" or wtvr you used to see in weirdcore edits, but ive genuinely seen that place in a dream. like, a couple months ago. it was an incredibly vivid dream and i remember basically the whole thing, people i met, conversations i had, but specifically that place. i'm getting nervous 😭😭😭
Did u dieded
I believe that, there are photos of real places that have been in my dreams, or looked identical.
You probably have seen a picture of it or similiar ones, but do not recall seeing it as it had no impact at the moment, then your brain used it for a dream.
It's impossible for you to remember everything you see.
Oh my god sameee but with two other pics wtfff I feel you bro 😭😭
Nah it looks cosy I would live there
Omg i have been terrorized by disgusting and unsettling no privacy bathrooms in my dreams. I didn’t know other people had that too?!
Are they ever flooded?
I had a bathroom dream a few weeks ago. It was at the 4th floor of this cyberpunk dystopian building. And inside looked like a furniture warehouse with toilets lined up to each other but they had been designed like lazy boy chairs lmao. Like a whole warehouse of lazy boy looking toilets just rows and rows of them
Same 😥 I haven’t been having dreams like that for a bit, I think because I’m less stressed irl or something, but they were unusual and freaked me out, along with multiple reoccurring dreams about convenience stores and malls (along with cities,)
Literally found this video first thing in the morning where I had a dream where the bathroom stalls were too short and people could just look over the partitions. Wacky stuff.
dude yes. usually at school or at swimming pools. just toilets in a room for everyone to see. and usually super unsanitary
my first ever introduction to liminal spaces was actually when I was in a mall when it was closing. Seeing all of the stores with the closed garage doors in front of them with no people in sight and the light being more scarce in different areas I felt an uneasy feeling but also felt like I had seen it before and when I got home I was wondering if that was something others felt which brought me through the rabbit hole of liminal spaces! Very Epic