Very good insight into 16\35 film viewing and process of lacing up sep. film & sound elements. SteenBecks were obviously built to a very high standard. No wonder Spielberg loves editing on them. Love your blue tack holding cable around door frame @ 18:46 :)
I appreciate the past editors but man, I'm I glad I live in the the digital age. I can now edit video, audio & do FX along with tiles on my laptop. Shweeeeet!
George Tudu Well.... I hate to say this but if I really am serious on filming my movie on 16 or 35mm, I have to make the titles look very filmy as well. So a physical editing machine might be a great option for reasons that I thought fits. Though I'm not gonna be he editor so instead someone have to edit the movie for me.
norelco pc Yea and so what if we are and what difference does that make? I still do not want to edit like that if I have the choice I prefer a computer the vast majority of the time. Ask most editors regardless of their age and I am confident to type out that they will tell you that they prefer to edit on a computer instead of the older way even veteran editors I am confident most of them prefer using a computer. The only thing I have heard about the older linear way of editing that can still be useful, according to one of my film school professors, is that it helps to give you a better eye with editing. I would not mind trying out this linear modeling way just to see if this is true and to also say I have experienced it, but come on you have to admit the older editing system is just not as practical the computer is better. The linear model is probably more expensive cause of all the stuff you to buy plus having to use film reels. Also I said it is interesting to see him do it so at least acknowledge that as well.
norelco pc I believe I am showing respect I said it is interesting to watch him edit that way. I'm not saying others should not do it if they have the chance to do it if they want to edit like that than go ahead and do so.
+MYSPACE FUN It's the novelty of it that attracts the young under 30 crowd. As for us geezers who started off in film this way, well.... this throwback cutting is shear nostalgia. Most of us love the new technologies that are being used today I can't see myself going back to this. I like film but digital is a much better medium to work in. I can even make it emulate old film stocks that you would not be able to tell the difference. After processing in post, anyone who claim that they can tell the difference are lying so take their stubborn ego with a grain of salt. However a buddy of mine still has his Steenbecks and uses them to edit footage he takes with his dozen or so old 16mm Bolex and Aaton cameras. I guess he is very nostalgic.
Ah yes, because spending the majority of the time on the technical side of editing is far better than using tools that allow you to focus on the creative side
i actually have a reel of film that has a optical sound track, its a trailer for men of honor. i have no way at all to play it, or even take pictures of each frame
Yeah, I get that. But how on earth would they edit multicam? Like concerts or theatre performances filmed with 6 or 8 cameras? How could they keep that all in sync and preview everything?
Out of curiosity...why would you ever want to go back to this? This is just such an inefficient and creatively limiting way of editing. If you have the option to edit digitally...why wouldn’t you?
Very interesting. I noticed at around 9:55 however that the staff were handling the film very roughly, which to me seems counter-productive for a restoration. Just how much damage is caused to film through day-to-day handling?
The picture of a girl in the film leader (sometimes called a China Girl) was a crude way of checking that the film processing had worked OK, and that the flesh tone colours looked as they should.
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I CAN'T GET THIS NASTY URGE TO EDIT WITH FILM!
IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS!
Cool! Digital may have its perks, but it is cool to see analog still being used somewhat.
thank you Adobe premiere
I still edit my films with scissors and superglue.
i used scotch tape
We were made to use a flatbed for editing. Cut and splice. It was hard but it was satisfying.
Fascinating.
Interesting video! I am curious as to how title sequences were added. That was probably filmed seperately then composited with an optical printer?
they were indeed ,most titles were shot on a rostrum camera
Really interesting stuff. Film editing sure is fun to do (as long as they were treated well).
8:30 - Well, she looks confused about the scratch line.
Very good insight into 16\35 film viewing and process of lacing up sep. film & sound elements. SteenBecks were obviously built to a very high standard. No wonder Spielberg loves editing on them. Love your blue tack holding cable around door frame @ 18:46 :)
I appreciate the past editors but man, I'm I glad I live in the the digital age.
I can now edit video, audio & do FX along with tiles on my laptop. Shweeeeet!
C Allan 😂 a lot of work man
+Butcher Wing you can still shoot on film and edit on a digital machine. heaps of movies do it. for example star wars the force awakens
The English Patient (first digitally edited film to receive an Academy Award)
And that's what it looks like-Sheeet.
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Hey, Nice video. Can you tell me the diameter of a 35/65 mm 1000 foot film can ? we are working on a 65mm film camera project. Need your help.
Thank God for digital editing. I don't have enough patience for editing physically.
George Tudu Well.... I hate to say this but if I really am serious on filming my movie on 16 or 35mm, I have to make the titles look very filmy as well. So a physical editing machine might be a great option for reasons that I thought fits. Though I'm not gonna be he editor so instead someone have to edit the movie for me.
What a pain in the ass it's interesting, but man what a pain in the ass I'm glad I'm not forced to have to edit like that.
norelco pc Yea and so what if we are and what difference does that make? I still do not want to edit like that if I have the choice I prefer a computer the vast majority of the time. Ask most editors regardless of their age and I am confident to type out that they will tell you that they prefer to edit on a computer instead of the older way even veteran editors I am confident most of them prefer using a computer. The only thing I have heard about the older linear way of editing that can still be useful, according to one of my film school professors, is that it helps to give you a better eye with editing. I would not mind trying out this linear modeling way just to see if this is true and to also say I have experienced it, but come on you have to admit the older editing system is just not as practical the computer is better. The linear model is probably more expensive cause of all the stuff you to buy plus having to use film reels. Also I said it is interesting to see him do it so at least acknowledge that as well.
+Mike S You really don't have much of a choice these days.
norelco pc I believe I am showing respect I said it is interesting to watch him edit that way. I'm not saying others should not do it if they have the chance to do it if they want to edit like that than go ahead and do so.
+MYSPACE FUN It's the novelty of it that attracts the young under 30 crowd. As for us geezers who started off in film this way, well.... this throwback cutting is shear nostalgia. Most of us love the new technologies that are being used today I can't see myself going back to this. I like film but digital is a much better medium to work in. I can even make it emulate old film stocks that you would not be able to tell the difference. After processing in post, anyone who claim that they can tell the difference are lying so take their stubborn ego with a grain of salt. However a buddy of mine still has his Steenbecks and uses them to edit footage he takes with his dozen or so old 16mm Bolex and Aaton cameras. I guess he is very nostalgic.
Ofcourse you can tell the difference
Hey buddies, can anyone refer or explain to me how the cinematic colours were achieved in those days.
The film stock.
I find this very interesting...since we use modern laptops/computer to edit videos.
Sad story with nitrate films... :(
Yeah, and it's even worse that most films that were made on nitrate back then no longer exist. :(
Am i allowed to use parts of this video for a school project about "how to film with 35mm camera"?
Yes Frank, please do use parts of this material. A verbal or visual credit would be appreciated.
extremely interesting film - thanks
the best way to edit!
Hardly. It's interesting, but it's cumbersome and dated.
Hell fucking no. The WORST way.
@@adamhawkes84 So if you fuck up you're stuck with it. Yeah that really sounds like a plus lol
Ah yes, because spending the majority of the time on the technical side of editing is far better than using tools that allow you to focus on the creative side
Excellent!!! Thanks.
I love my Avid even more, after watching this.
Amazing, amazing, nice job, very interesting.
Thank you for the video. Nice demo of editing system.
i actually have a reel of film that has a optical sound track, its a trailer for men of honor. i have no way at all to play it, or even take pictures of each frame
excellent :3
+Zane Wuffy I had a sound print of casablanca!
i like that :3
Though I appreciate film; this makes me appreciate Premiere & other NLEs so much more.
AWESOME
thank you
Fascinating to see, but I'm glad we've moved on from such a tedious process.
Making movie in seluloid is really enjoyed the process..
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..amazing !...
Yeah, I get that. But how on earth would they edit multicam? Like concerts or theatre performances filmed with 6 or 8 cameras? How could they keep that all in sync and preview everything?
I wish it was still done like this.
Shaun Dobbie agreed
They still do. The Force Awakens and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 were both shot on film. It's just they were both edited digitally.
You get the same whether you edit like this or digitally
Why? nobody wants to have a gigantic roll of film anymore LOL.
Out of curiosity...why would you ever want to go back to this? This is just such an inefficient and creatively limiting way of editing. If you have the option to edit digitally...why wouldn’t you?
Very interesting. I noticed at around 9:55 however that the staff were handling the film very roughly, which to me seems counter-productive for a restoration. Just how much damage is caused to film through day-to-day handling?
Restovration???
Whew! I’m gonna study the Avid more diligently.
Sprockets are dangerous for the feel.
Film*
Why is a girl at 2:53?
The picture of a girl in the film leader (sometimes called a China Girl) was a crude way of checking that the film processing had worked OK,
and that the flesh tone colours looked as they should.
sinistro!
Wow, we are living in a better time
So glad I don't gotta deal with this
Fascinating.