I was born in Bramley in 1947 and well remember Town Street in the 1950s and early 1960s, before the dodgy councillors and property developers got their hands on it. Anyone else remember Timmy Thompson's Bakeries (with a Swiss trained baker/cake maker)? Rawnsley's toy shop (Dinky Toy heaven)? Horner's hardware shop? Lido Cinema ("The Bug Hutch" - early soft porn and horror films)? Wells' newsagents, sweet and tobacconist near The Globe junction? Wellcome babies clinic at Town End? Grunwell the butcher dentist? Spencer's garage (Triumph?)? Jesse Stephenson grocers? The "Cop Shop" near The Globe junction? So many lost names and places. Nostalgia is nice, but I suspect if I were to be transported back today, I would ask for a "Beam me up, Scottie" device, just in case the coal and cigarette smoke, gas smells, basic food, lack of restaurants, limited healthcare and poor domestic heating kicked in. Still.......happy days!
I remember cycling around Bramley town st (must have been early seventies), just before they ruined it. I also remember Mr Mathews bike shop, just past the old village pump. I believe very near to where the old church spire is today. On the other side of the road today is a plaque, with a bit of history on it. I now live not far from what was The globe pub, and can't imagine trams on Whitecote hill, as the old photo shows. There's still an old cottage not too far from The Barley mow pub, which I remember being an antique shop at one time. Thanks for sharing.
I was born in bramley in 1963 .. my first recollection of life was living at the back of the parade of shops across the road from the conservative club.. my mum and dad bought a little shop in the warrells when I was three we then moved to kirkstall mount and remember climbing up the Morrison’s centre when it was getting built in the 70s and getting chased by the security guard...life was such fun...I occasionally go back to see my mum and it’s now just a dump ...so sorry to say that ... my birth town🙄
I have lived in Bramley 25 years and really appreciate this view of it. I've been aware of it's history and am gutted how it is so readily discarded. Some features still remain, some real gems if you know where to look. We should cherish our histories and remember those before us. Thank you.
I was lucky enough to grow up in this beautiful village before it was destroyed. Whoever agreed to its destruction should hang their heads in shame. I remember, even as a child, being heartbroken as I watched them tear it down.
Such a disgrace i read on wikipedia it was half the buildings were in a poor state of repair but how did they let them get to that state i refuse to believe though that they couldnt have restored most of them or at least look at them to see what could be saved looks like the idea of replacing buildings started in the 60's i wish they didnt do that some of those buildings looked amazing and with a little tlc they could have been saved
I've been lucky enough, over the years, to go to Tuscany. One of the things that strikes you is how those ancient buildings are still in use. People work in them. Live in them. Our Victorian heritage means that one day, hundreds of years from now, we'll be like Tuscany (hey, if global warming keeps up we'll be as warm as there too!). Those Victorian buildings aren't going anywhere. People will be living in them 1000 years from now. Unless some corrupt doctrinaire idiot has them pulled down of course. Their self-confidence is breath-taking however.
So where did they grow the apples? 😊 “The first Bramley's Seedling tree grew from pips planted by Mary Ann Brailsford in her garden when she was a young girl in Southwell, Nottinghamshire, UK in 1809. Mary left the house when she married and possibly never saw the apples that were produced. She died in 1852 never knowing that "her" seedling was to become famous.[7] The tree she had planted in the garden was later included in the purchase of the cottage by a local butcher, Matthew Bramley, in 1846. In 1856, a local nurseryman, Henry Merryweather, asked if he could take cuttings from the tree and start to sell the apples. Bramley agreed but insisted that the apples should bear his name.”
Councils up and down the country are charged with looking after the environment and caring for our towns, cities and villages. Cities like Leeds have been decimated by callous, uncaring planning departments who know little, and care less for their own heritage and history. It's still going on today. Rather than seeing what is there and attempting a sympathetic approach to change, all to frequently a slash and burn culture exists. Even now we see things like road junctions totally over engineered with steel barriers, signs, lights, posts and bollards with white and yellow lines painted all over the place. Hideous. What was it Betjeman said? 'Come Friendly Bombs and Fall on Slough' That could be applied to parts of Leeds, or indeed many once individual and unique places across the country.
What was the reason for all the demolition? Such a loss of history and passing through Bramley regularly, certainly hasn't been replaced by anything better.
My mum said it was because leeds city council wouldn't pay for the building to be repaired so they just demolished the lot and replaced it with a ugly shopping centre it's strange how Farsley and Horsforth kept there town streets in good condition they still there today
We my family moved to bramley when I was young.. My mam and stepdad used to manage bramley band club.. We loved living there, the pig farm, rhubarb fields..the council has just turned it into a council estate... Looks terrible.. So sad..
I don't know the area but so much has gone, the heart has been ripped out of the place: some builders made a killing and moved on to do the same thing somewhere else, not to mention the (so called) planners.
Me & my brother were born in Killinbeck yard .it was an old yard with 1 up 1 down cottages. The old stone house that is still there used to be an antique shop. Killinbeck yard was next to that . There bit of garden was the top of our st. My dad used to drive the mobile shop van for the Thrift stores . His area was the Wythers , Aston's. Broadleas. My dad and his family were all born in Bramley
I was born n bred in bramley / stanningley where the bus stop is at the start of the film was our house we lived above the Doctors surgery. My Dads shop was opposite Thrift stores, next to trinity church. But we lived down the Langleys then. I watched them pull it all down ,took a few photos on a box brownie and lived in westover road 75 /81 Never understood why they built the roses field houses with there backs to the main road ( some useless town planner ) Kev J
As a Bramley lad, I remember the Lido cinema, I went to St Peters School. in the 1950's. Unfortunately, I can't live there anymore, due to the violence that exists there. But, thanks for the memories.
Some great memories thank you. I used to go in the New Inn mid 70s (Hosts Jack and Olga if memory serves correctly). They had the Star Shortwave Club upstairs (I was a member at the time), and you can see the antenna on the roof at 5:20.
David Ellingham Thanks for the memories that you brought back in your short film about Bramley. Though I have so many memories of living and exploring as a child, it would take an age to put all to paper, the friends that I had along with the adventures could never be deleted, and with a film like what you have produced it helps to keep things in place. In your film you show the shops at the top of the Outgang, well this is where my Great Grandfather had his shop, number 152 Town Street, which I think is the 3rd or 4th shop along , from the top of the outgang, this would have been circa 1914, and looking through some of the correspondence that took place between he and my Grandfather, who was fighting out in Salonica, life wasn't easy. My Great grandfather had ten son's and one daughter and this gave rise to the Ellingham Cricket Team, and eventually I hope to find out more about, where and who they played against, and having said that, what a team, it would be a case of, fall out with one and you've fallen out with them all. I left Bramley in 1969, to follow a career in the Military which I stuck at until 1993, only visiting home on leave, for the first few years. So again Thank you, and keep up the good work.
Well David loved your story. I grew up in bramley it was a fun place to live... I had 2 sister's and 1 brother I was the youngest But always felt safe.. I went to broadlane school.. We would walk the length of town st rain, snow hail. Its sad its not the bramley we know anymore, happy childhood my family managed the bramley band club for years... Its still there.. Memories wonderful..
what the hell do people expect or want from a place where theres no limitations on children born per family, the uk is becoming overpopulated and can not keep up with housing or schools, hospitals GPs etc, but its ok one woman has 15 kids and proud
It’s almost as if it was deliberately decimated in the interest of just making it a suburb of Leeds and I’m so sad that they did such a complete job of it 😢
I was brought up not far from the pub on ganners rise. My grandma and grandad used to walk to it every night for a 1/2 pint. Fond memories of bramley in the 60s and 70s
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Luckily we still have the likes of Farsley to remind us how things could /should have been. Poor Bramley.
Yes and most of horsforth town street is still there
I was born in Bramley in 1947 and well remember Town Street in the 1950s and early 1960s, before the dodgy councillors and property developers got their hands on it. Anyone else remember Timmy Thompson's Bakeries (with a Swiss trained baker/cake maker)? Rawnsley's toy shop (Dinky Toy heaven)? Horner's hardware shop? Lido Cinema ("The Bug Hutch" - early soft porn and horror films)? Wells' newsagents, sweet and tobacconist near The Globe junction? Wellcome babies clinic at Town End? Grunwell the butcher dentist? Spencer's garage (Triumph?)? Jesse Stephenson grocers? The "Cop Shop" near The Globe junction? So many lost names and places. Nostalgia is nice, but I suspect if I were to be transported back today, I would ask for a "Beam me up, Scottie" device, just in case the coal and cigarette smoke, gas smells, basic food, lack of restaurants, limited healthcare and poor domestic heating kicked in. Still.......happy days!
I remember cycling around Bramley town st (must have been early seventies), just before they ruined it. I also remember Mr Mathews bike shop, just past the old village pump. I believe very near to where the old church spire is today. On the other side of the road today is a plaque, with a bit of history on it. I now live not far from what was The globe pub, and can't imagine trams on Whitecote hill, as the old photo shows. There's still an old cottage not too far from The Barley mow pub, which I remember being an antique shop at one time. Thanks for sharing.
Leeds city Council to blame once again!
I was born in bramley in 1963 .. my first recollection of life was living at the back of the parade of shops across the road from the conservative club.. my mum and dad bought a little shop in the warrells when I was three we then moved to kirkstall mount and remember climbing up the Morrison’s centre when it was getting built in the 70s and getting chased by the security guard...life was such fun...I occasionally go back to see my mum and it’s now just a dump ...so sorry to say that ... my birth town🙄
I have lived in Bramley 25 years and really appreciate this view of it. I've been aware of it's history and am gutted how it is so readily discarded. Some features still remain, some real gems if you know where to look. We should cherish our histories and remember those before us.
Thank you.
If I could, I'd gladly go back to those days to live my life out and then, hopefully, never come back here.
I wasn't born until 1985 so I missed old bramley but my mum use to allways say that
@@Chriscasey1985 My dad was born in 1896, three centuries ago. He would have been 125 years old now-;)
I was lucky enough to grow up in this beautiful village before it was destroyed. Whoever agreed to its destruction should hang their heads in shame. I remember, even as a child, being heartbroken as I watched them tear it down.
My mum tald me all about it I never seen old bramley I wasn't born until 1985 so I missed it
Such a disgrace i read on wikipedia it was half the buildings were in a poor state of repair but how did they let them get to that state i refuse to believe though that they couldnt have restored most of them or at least look at them to see what could be saved looks like the idea of replacing buildings started in the 60's i wish they didnt do that some of those buildings looked amazing and with a little tlc they could have been saved
@@nickda1 Civilisation peaked in 1959. It is all down hill from there.
@@DamnDealDone seems like it lol
Armley was better for shops etc. but that’s a sh**hole now
I've been lucky enough, over the years, to go to Tuscany. One of the things that strikes you is how those ancient buildings are still in use. People work in them. Live in them. Our Victorian heritage means that one day, hundreds of years from now, we'll be like Tuscany (hey, if global warming keeps up we'll be as warm as there too!). Those Victorian buildings aren't going anywhere. People will be living in them 1000 years from now. Unless some corrupt doctrinaire idiot has them pulled down of course. Their self-confidence is breath-taking however.
So where did they grow the apples? 😊
“The first Bramley's Seedling tree grew from pips planted by Mary Ann Brailsford in her garden when she was a young girl in Southwell, Nottinghamshire, UK in 1809. Mary left the house when she married and possibly never saw the apples that were produced. She died in 1852 never knowing that "her" seedling was to become famous.[7] The tree she had planted in the garden was later included in the purchase of the cottage by a local butcher, Matthew Bramley, in 1846. In 1856, a local nurseryman, Henry Merryweather, asked if he could take cuttings from the tree and start to sell the apples. Bramley agreed but insisted that the apples should bear his name.”
so all that gone to build that hideous bramley shopping centre
Councils up and down the country are charged with looking after the environment and caring for our towns, cities and villages. Cities like Leeds have been decimated by callous, uncaring planning departments who know little, and care less for their own heritage and history.
It's still going on today.
Rather than seeing what is there and attempting a sympathetic approach to change, all to frequently a slash and burn culture exists.
Even now we see things like road junctions totally over engineered with steel barriers, signs, lights, posts and bollards with white and yellow lines painted all over the place. Hideous.
What was it Betjeman said? 'Come Friendly Bombs and Fall on Slough' That could be applied to parts of Leeds, or indeed many once individual and unique places across the country.
What was the reason for all the demolition? Such a loss of history and passing through Bramley regularly, certainly hasn't been replaced by anything better.
My mum said it was because leeds city council wouldn't pay for the building to be repaired so they just demolished the lot and replaced it with a ugly shopping centre it's strange how Farsley and Horsforth kept there town streets in good condition they still there today
@@Chriscasey1985 yeah, such a shame :\
We my family moved to bramley when I was young.. My mam and stepdad used to manage bramley band club.. We loved living there, the pig farm, rhubarb fields..the council has just turned it into a council estate... Looks terrible.. So sad..
I don't know the area but so much has gone, the heart has been ripped out of the place: some builders made a killing and moved on to do the same thing somewhere else, not to mention the (so called) planners.
Amazing to see somewhere that has been more devastated than Bradford.
Me & my brother were born in Killinbeck yard .it was an old yard with 1 up 1 down cottages. The old stone house that is still there used to be an antique shop. Killinbeck yard was next to that . There bit of garden was the top of our st. My dad used to drive the mobile shop van for the Thrift stores . His area was the Wythers , Aston's. Broadleas. My dad and his family were all born in Bramley
I was born n bred in bramley / stanningley where the bus stop is at the start of the film was our house we lived above the Doctors surgery. My Dads shop was opposite Thrift stores, next to trinity church. But we lived down the Langleys then.
I watched them pull it all down ,took a few photos on a box brownie and lived in westover road 75 /81
Never understood why they built the roses field houses with there backs to the main road ( some useless town planner )
Kev J
As a Bramley lad, I remember the Lido cinema, I went to St Peters School. in the 1950's. Unfortunately, I can't live there anymore, due to the violence that exists there. But, thanks for the memories.
Some great memories thank you. I used to go in the New Inn mid 70s (Hosts Jack and Olga if memory serves correctly). They had the Star Shortwave Club upstairs (I was a member at the time), and you can see the antenna on the roof at 5:20.
Nostalgia is the most bittersweet emotion.
So possibly an ignorant comment, sorry ot a local. Why has so much gone, to the point of erasing the place from existence?
Why was Bramley knocked down? They replaced it with basically very boring buildings and took away the character. So sad!
loved Bramley old Bramley, was married and both children Christened at St. Peters, now it could be anywhere in the UK, such a shame
David Ellingham
Thanks for the memories that you brought back in your short film about Bramley. Though I have so many memories of living and exploring as a child, it would take an age to put all to paper, the friends that I had along with the adventures could never be deleted, and with a film like what you have produced it helps to keep things in place. In your film you show the shops at the top of the Outgang, well this is where my Great Grandfather had his shop, number 152 Town Street, which I think is the 3rd or 4th shop along , from the top of the outgang, this would have been circa 1914, and looking through some of the correspondence that took place between he and my Grandfather, who was fighting out in Salonica, life wasn't easy. My Great grandfather had ten son's and one daughter and this gave rise to the Ellingham Cricket Team, and eventually I hope to find out more about, where and who they played against, and having said that, what a team, it would be a case of, fall out with one and you've fallen out with them all.
I left Bramley in 1969, to follow a career in the Military which I stuck at until 1993, only visiting home on leave, for the first few years. So again Thank you, and keep up the good work.
Well David loved your story. I grew up in bramley it was a fun place to live... I had 2 sister's and 1 brother I was the youngest
But always felt safe.. I went to broadlane school.. We would walk the length of town st rain, snow hail. Its sad its not the bramley we know anymore, happy childhood my family managed the bramley band club for years... Its still there.. Memories wonderful..
Thank you very much for your kindness in putting in the time to show the splendor of Bramley, classic to contemporary.
what the hell do people expect or want from a place where theres no limitations on children born per family, the uk is becoming overpopulated and can not keep up with housing or schools, hospitals GPs etc, but its ok one woman has 15 kids and proud
i worked for a year in the Paul Madeley shop back in1975,then became a fireman
It’s almost as if it was deliberately decimated in the interest of just making it a suburb of Leeds and I’m so sad that they did such a complete job of it 😢
I lived over road from bramley shopping centre we used to play football on field got sick of chasing ball down hill though lol
My dad used to own the old oak tree pub on leeds and Bradford road was wondering if anyone used to go there before it was demolished?
I did had some good night's in there 75 till it closed down
I was brought up not far from the pub on ganners rise. My grandma and grandad used to walk to it every night for a 1/2 pint. Fond memories of bramley in the 60s and 70s
Im sat on Fairfield crescent thinking they should have left Bramley as it was
I used to live on Fairfield crescent.
On Broad Lane thinking exactly the same thing😢
Enjoyed the old ride down bramley town street brilliant that