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Shortest video ever. 🙋🏻♀️Hi. Ray, no questions from Zack today. Great advice. 1. Inspect car 2. Vin check 3. Test drive the vehicle 4. Check market prices 5. Don’t pay a reconditioning fee. Thanks Ray, Great tip.❤️🙋🏻♀️🏃🏼♂️🏃🏼♀️🏃🏼♂️
Me too, I cant wait for the "five fingers on the right hand reveal" episode! Regarding the inspection by a trusted mechanic, I disagree to a point. You can find out what will go wrong in the future with a car from a mechanic who is also a soothsayer.
Thank you so.much for such an INFORMATIVE video!! Videos like yours helped me to be a more confident & wise car shopper. I'm in the southern part of the U.S & currently shopping for a used Highlander. I found a '16 Highlander with 87k miles at a Toyota dealer with the upgrades that I wanted. After I decided to walk away from the deal (because they kept changing the interest rates/monthly payment over 2 days of going there), miraculously they decided to sell me the car for $20k from $26k msrp with $0 down. I even got them to take off $998 that they claimed was to "recover" the car if it were stolen!! Another "bogus" unpsell cost. I believe I did a great job as a female (this was my 2nd day going to the dealer) & my husband wasn't with me at this time I stood my ground & told them that I would go back to the drawing board. I knew that if they didn't come down in price, etc., then that was a sign to me from God that the car wasn't for me. And it worked in my favor!!🙏 The dealer is also doing a thorough pre-purchase detail & inspection of everything as required by the law where we are. In addition, I still plan on bringing the car to an outside mechanic to look over everything even after they are done! This is dealer that sells 800 vehicles/mth which is high, esp. in our current market. Yet, I was still able to get the price, etc. that was right for me! The lesson I learned here is to be willing to walk away from a car when you like the features, miles, etc., when you believe dealer is trying to mislead/manipulate you in anyway. This way, they'll know you are not a customer that is going to fall for prey to their deceptions. The right dealer & car will fall into place for "your" best interests as it did for me!!
One of the most important is never ever tell them you are paying cash wait until you have and agreement in writing. That is the more important then anything he said. The dealer get a big kick back of a loan and he will reduce the price a little more. So never say you are paying cash just wait until everything is in writing.
Well certified used cars have the warranties attached to them as if ur buying the car new that start the day you buy it regardless of how many miles are already on the car.
@@jaredfehrens6988 "Certified pre-owned (CPO) cars are low-mileage used vehicles that are backed with warranty coverage and other extras by the original manufacturer"- thats the online definition i found. so im assuming if u find any CPO kias or hyundais you find will have their manufacturers warranties attached like those 3 yr 36k mile ones that ford have for example.
1.pre purchase inspection 2. Dont rely on Carfax/auto chex. Google the VIN to see if the car was damaged. 3. test drive the car. 4. dont pay too much. check price guidelines. 5. Dont pay an additional reconditioning fee
Ray # 5 before number one actually. When you do your DD check and see what goes wrong and at what mileage! Then ask your mechanic to see if they have been done! If not use the cost of the expected repairs to adjust your buying price. You can do this by simply going online or just ask the service or parts depts at a dealership, what goes wrong at x miles on x year vehicle!
Note: The pre-purchase inspection should also been done on any CPO vehicle offered at a dealership. I've returned an CPO offered vehicle with a list of items in need of repair and would not buy it.
Best info of the video “go on that google machine” 😂 Thanks for the tips here. Good stuff, and all the videos have had some great insight. Nice work! 🍻
First, never buy from a used car lot. There are plenty of private sellers in the world. Car salesmen sell everyday. They are professionals. You, the buyer, are a rookie. There is absolutely no way you know what a dealer paid for a used car. Heck most of the time the salesman does not have a clue. They will eat you up.
watching you guys posts has become an enjoyable little event every day (maybe till I finally buy my car in plan). thank you Ray and Zack for bringing forward the helpful tips, and further more, I guess many will agree with me, a lovely pair of father and son enjoying time together. Stay safe and keep it up!!
Check that the year that's listed on the inside of the door frame is the same year that's on the title. I got burned. Bought a 2008 Toyota Scion that was really a 2006. Don't buy cars that were from out of state. You can end up buying a car that was rebuilt titled in Florida but that titled got "cleaned" once it was registered in KY. Not everyone who works in the clerks office is honest. Some take kickbacks from car dealers. Always meet in the clerks office when buying or selling a vehicle so that you know that the title has no liens or any other problems. Clerk's office is often in the same building as the sheriff's office, so it's a safe place to count and handle cash. Clerk's office will make sure that the buyer has the car insured in their name before the title is signed. This protects you from legal liability which would occur if you did the transaction outside on your own and the buyer drives without insurance and gets in a wreck, and also ensures that the vehicle is titled in their name; they can't cancel a check. It's their baby now if the car breaks down or gets in a wreck on their way home.
Great strong presence ! With those cars lined up behind you, and your wise advice to pair it up with, overall just very ingenious ! Thanks for all the information you give us, all very much appreciated.
Without question, the MOST important thing is a PRE-INSPECTION using an expensive Scan Tool. I have a very good friend, who is a Certified Mechanic. He uses one of these scanners all the time. He charges $150.00 to perform the scan. If, there are any problems he can print out the items with problems. Then, he can tell me what it will cost to perform the required maintenance. So, the buyer can then take this information to the Dealership as a bargaining tool. If, according to the scanner, the "codes" indicate you need a combined total of $500.00 in repairs, then bring this to the Dealership's Manager attention. Ask if he is willing to repair or reduce the cost. These inspections ALWAYS pay for themselves, trust me!
Anyone can buy a scan tool that will read the codes just as well as your freinds $150 a pop (wow) tool. Can get a scanner from Amazon for less than that $150 (again, wow!). If the scan tool comes up with codes, go to google and find out what they mean.
Talk about CarMax. I bought a car from them and so did my neighbor. Both of us have been very happy with our cars and thought the deal fair. They say they give all their cars a safety inspection and a 30 day guarantee.
If the pre-owned vehicle is at a major dealership, has low miles & is still under it’s factory warranty, then I’d personally pass on a third party inspection. Major dealers have a reputation to protect, so all of the junk is typically just wholesaled out. The used cars you (might) want to avoid are the ones at corner-lot dealers w/multiple owners, expired warranties & high mileage. Those cars are typically there for a reason..... sometimes it’s okay to pay a little more for a better car. I’ve said this a million times, but the less miles the better when buying pre-owned.
Would love to see your guys' take on used car dealer "document fees". What exactly do they entail, why are they not simply rolled into the sticker price of the car, and what fees are legitimate versus bogus. Thanks!!
Could you explain the “how” of getting an inspection before buying a used car? Would you be asking the owner to hand the car over to you while you take the vehicle to your mechanic? I wouldn’t do such a thing if I were selling a vehicle. I don’t understand the logistics of what you are recommending.
That's what I have done. I get to the point where we've agreed on price then I tell them that, as a last step, I need to have my mechanic do a quick inspection. I've never had any sellers that had a problem with it but maybe that's because I buy my used cars from dealers.
Question. How does the insurance thing work on a vehicle purchase? Will they provide you with temporary insurance so you can drive the car home or must I purchase my own i surance prior to taking possession of the vehicle?
Thanks for the four...err five tips! Always appreciate your auto dealership experience. Also, use that mic for every video. The audio on this one was excellent.
I have used Lemon Squad a few times. Back a couple of years ago, they did the inspection and the report either the same day or maybe the next morning. Now they take the order one day, the next day is the inspection, then the next day you are waiting and waiting and waiting. Meanwhile the car you are hoping to buy is still on the market. Now I am at the end of the day at day 3 and still do not have a report. DO NOT USE LEMON SQUAD!!
Zac please ask Ray to re count one time that the purchaser got the better of Ray when buying a car(new or used) and how he changed his approach after he realised that he had been taken, cheers Michael
Good Video! Suggestions are very focused approach to buying a car and should be done if really interested in less stress and problems down the road. Once you have settled on car and price the independent inspection is absolutely way to go unless you purchase a scan tool or have a friend that has one to help inspect car properly.
Enjoying the videos. I do have a great idea for you for your future video. If you can discuss the hummer loophole and how businesses can take advantage of 6000lb vehicles and how tax deduction for it works. From what to expect and real world numbers, to equity savings in the long run. I find the topic very interesting and I doubt many know of it
After two days of online negating....month end and quarterly end, the used car guy still won't take offer. He wants me to name a price now? I found the KBB low price, added $1250. I know it's a trade in and they probably gave 9000 on it. THey're making a profit. What all the cat and mouse? What do dealers NOT like to hear. I've walked away from many deals. How about a video on that.....what they don't want to hear, what pisses them off, how to get out of the FOREVER negotiating, and cut to the best price. Period. I'd rather set my hair on fire than buy a car. Just a terrible process. I do like y'alls channel....very helpful.
@Russell Peacock Very true. I'm guessing that it was a trade in and they got the smallest KBB amount. They've countered at least! We're close...I said go to the second pencil and maybe we have a deal. Thanks for all the helpful information
Ray, my last 3 cars have all been CPOs...is the inspection necessary with factory certified vehicles? Assuming you ask the right questions and get a Carfax at the time of purchase.
here's one more check the spare tire. new cars are coming with out them. I just traded in a chrysler town and country. never had a spare. i asked the dealer when i bought it , he said it did. i didn't check for 6 months. now 6 years later , someone is getting my van.
I googled the vin # on a 1987 Grand National that I was interested in and I got a listing from a local auto trader in California. I’m in Illinois and the car was in California the car at 27,000 miles in the Auto trader which the listing had expired it and the person had it on eBay with 27,000 miles on odometer but it didn’t have an original speedometer /odometer it was a GNX performance speedometer/ odometer but the car was real clean no rust but that’s because it was a California car. I spent the money and did a Carfax report and it shows that the car had 173,000 miles on it. When I contacted the guy through eBay and told him it’s funny the same car was in the auto trader and on eBay with 27,000 miles but the Carfax shows it has 173,000, well long story short he never contacted me back, and he never sold the car on eBay either. For all I know this car could’ve went around to 227,000 miles with the car being 33 years old. Buyer beware of cars especially in California they don’t show their age from salt. If I would’ve bought that and found out afterwords the headache I would’ve subjected myself to, having to file a lawsuit with this guy to get my money back. And the guy was selling it “as is” another tip off .I’m glad I spent the money on the Carfax.
Getting the car checked out by your own mechanic, that you hopefully trust, is the best advice in buying used if you want a reliable car. I've always done this.
The mechanic I trust doesn't do inspecting the car for people. The "pre buying car inspection" business, that has mix google reviews (some good, some bad) charges high price and mileages. I don't know how to test drive with something like people use to say, feel the struts, go fast on highway (highways in my city used to have back up traffic)..like people say and can't find anybody to do it for me.
I test drove a used 2018 Dodge Challenger Scatpack today with almost 30,000 miles. When I brought to my mechanic he noticed right off that the front bumper had been repainted. This was after I was told that it have never been in an accident.
It might not have been in an accident. Front and rear bumpers get scuffed and scraped all the time and need to be repainted, that doesn't mean it was an accident. Stay safe, Ray
I can take a vehicle to my trusted mechanic for a pre-purchase inspection but only if the dealer allows it. Do you know of a dealer who allows you to take a vehicle off their lot? I don't. It only works if your mechanic can travel to the dealer's lot and not many will do this because it takes them away from their shop with their lift and tools. I guess the solution is to find someone with a mobile service that will do this.
I have never worked for a dealership that wouldn't allow the customer to make arrangements to take a used vehicle to their mechanic. Hell, we used to send the car with our lot attendant so that the customer wouldn't have to tie up their time to do it. But that was just the way we did business. Stay safe, Ray
Thanks for the video. Just a question on point #1 Some dealerships will claim that their used vehicles have undergone some multi-point inspection ad can even provide a checklist of those items. Would you still recommend having your own private mechanic look at it or is the dealership inspection good enough? Thanks.
related but unrelated. would you do a segment providing transferable advise for making a purchase from a private owner vs. a dealership or online repository. i mean frame it as "here's what you would do at a dealership but here's how yu could get the same result since that may not work thru a private owner," that type of advise. with so many rentals hitting the market soon, people -- like myself -- are already including private owners as a purchase option. what are some do's and don'ts to consider (where possible)?
nice buick lot.....i get my crew 3800 engines.....park avenue....regals....lacrosse....lasabre.... esp.looking at 2005 to 2011 lucerne....they are well under 100k miles ....3500 to 4500.....best value out there we get 300k miles from these and less repair than town cars
@@lrac88510 I agree. My private owner purchases have been a great way to save money and an inspection from a trusted mechanic is a must. Like Ray mentioned, the only downside is any vehicle can have problems after purchasing it even if an inspection is done and it passes per your mechanic. If these problems happen on a vehicle purchased from a dealer, then you have the dealer to contact for help/recourse, plus they usually have a limited warranty like 30 day/1,000 mile warranty. With a private party, you are usually on your own and it's typically an as-is sale but can be worth the risk in the end. Take care!
I love when ppl always say have your mechanic check it out. What is this mechanic that I have. They all charge to much to even talk to and I would have to make a appointment.
Should I be cautious if the vehicles cost is $3000 to $4,000 less than others of the same model, year and mileage? This vehicle I'm looking at has 32,000 miles with an accident report stating the vehicle got hit on the rear passenger side of the truck bed.
how do you get an independent inspection? Do you do the test drive and then have a mechanic go to the lot the next day? Would the dealership not be pissed about that?
@@CarEdge thanks. But says to do ppi after your new car is "delivered". Seems that would be too late. Looks like you have to get a mechanic to go look at it at the same time and day when you test drive. Or maybe the dealer wont mind a two hour test drive during which you could take the car to a mechanic.
Anthony Kelly Blue Book is a respected source for used car values and yes you should even have a pre-purchase inspection performed on a CPO car. Stay safe, Ray
I recently inquired on a few used cars at dealers. While no reconditioning fee they all have a document fee of 500...650. That's not tags and tax. Is this fee appropriate.
Great video but in regards to #4, how does one negotiate that fee away? In my area, there's only 2 dealerships that do not charge a dealer fee. (Of course, then they refuse to negotiate the vehicle price!) Every other dealer charges between $700-1000 in dealer fees & some have the nerve to also charge admin/paperwork fees of $200-300 on top of that. Pure rip-off profit by the dealers! Me, I've pretty much given up fighting those fees w/them and simply negotiate 'out-the door' prices. Doesn't solve the matter but makes me feel better about it all. I'm used-car shopping for my daughter right now so whatever advice you have to offer is appreciated.
I am interested in a used car, and contacted a dealer. There was the internet person, where I started a process.There was no contact with that dealership for over a day or two. I received today a message from the general manager from the dealership. My doubts whether they will change the way they approach any deal, be it price w/e.
#1 Never buy it from a dealership, they train the employees to rip you off and will work on you as a team. #2 Never trade your car in, sell it yourself and save big money. #3 Make sure the car has a good track record of reliability and resale value. #4 Always have it inspected by a neutral mechanic or your choosing. #5 Buy your car from a private individual who has taken good care of the car and has all the records of it's maintenance. Just a tip, if they take good care of their yard and home they will have taken good care of the car. #6 Never fall in love with the first car you see, keep shopping! If you pick a car that is the same make as the rental car Companies use but is a the top of the line model, people can't get good money for the car because of all the lesser rental cars for sale. Such as, the Toyota Camry is a very popular rental car but they only rent the LE grade cars so only look for a XLE, XLE V-6 or a limited and they won't be ex rental cars and the owners can't get top dollar because of all the affordable rentals on every lot.
Some of these “don’t do” items are grossly impractical. Getting the vehicle checked out by a mechanic before you buy. For this one to be even remotely feasible, the mechanic would have to be geographically near the seller’s location, and the mechanic would have to have a time slot available, at the buyer’s convenience, to inspect the vehicle. Also, what dealership (or private seller) is going to hand over the keys to a prospective buyer while the prospective buyer takes the vehicle “wherever” to be inspected? People simply don’t behave this way. The same applies to the idea that a good friend would be permitted to act as a proxy of some sort to test drive a vehicle that I might buy.
After my Carfax experience last year I will not trust it or any similar service. Went with one of my kids to look at a used car at a Honda dealership. Carfax showed no issues. Cool. When we looked at the car it clearly had a significant amount of body work all around the car and the grill/front bumper had zip ties. Wow! For grins we drove it around the parking lot and it was even worse. We went to the manager and expressed our disappointment they would even allow this car on their lot. I had previously thought this dealer was ok. Be warned. Great info and appreciate your perspective. Currently in the market for a used car for youngest kid.
I once asked a salesman if i could scan the car prior to test driving it with my scan tool. He was clueless. Had to explain what I meant. Then he went to talk to his manager. A few minutes later here comes their mechanic with their scan tool. As expected no codes were detected. Parked in a gas station during the test drive, connected my scan tool. Yes there were no current codes however scan tool says "RUN TIME SINCE TROUBLE CODES CLEARED = 6 HOURS +MINUTES +SECONDS". Came back to the dealer and told them i'm not feeling the car. Didn't bother to find out what the code was. I'm not taking a risk.
I'm looking a 2017 cpo camry with 26k miles on it. Carfax has it getting serviced by the dealer every 5k. Do you think i should get my mechanic to look at it?
First off if you are buying a used vehicle from a dealers lot you are protected already for a short period of time and milage. Secondly if you are buying CPO vehicle from a dealers lot you are golden in your protection from future issues for at least a year or 12.5K. So why pay for a vehicle inspection?? This video should have been titled "What you must do when you buy a used vehicle from a private party or a non dealer used car lot."
How do you go about getting a pre-purchase inspection on a used vehicle that is out of state and I don't have someone to test drive? Just give up on the deal? Just for a deal closer to home?
Russell there is a company called Lemon Squad that helps people coordinate pre-owned car pre purchase inspections nationwide. www.lemonsquad.com is their website. Stay safe, Ray
, Hey ray, I see you are in a Buick dealership. I like the Buick lacrosse. For a used one 2017 or 2018. You think with good credit I can finance one for a decent price? And what you think would be my monthly payment
Hi Ray, appreciate the content. What would you say to buying a Mazda MX5 2018 with only 2000km on it? The car would be sold by a dealer that is bound by 3 months of statutory warranty for any repairs, etc. Thanks in advance.
Dennis if you like it and it checks out then buy it but please get a pre-purchase inspection done to make sure that there are no hidden issues. All the best, Ray
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Shortest video ever. 🙋🏻♀️Hi. Ray, no questions from Zack today. Great advice.
1. Inspect car
2. Vin check
3. Test drive the vehicle
4. Check market prices
5. Don’t pay a reconditioning fee.
Thanks Ray, Great tip.❤️🙋🏻♀️🏃🏼♂️🏃🏼♀️🏃🏼♂️
Really enjoying the "watch Ray walk in a parking lot with cars in it" experience!
Me too, I cant wait for the "five fingers on the right hand reveal" episode! Regarding the inspection by a trusted mechanic, I disagree to a point. You can find out what will go wrong in the future with a car from a mechanic who is also a soothsayer.
Same
Fr tho lols
Thank you so.much for such an INFORMATIVE video!! Videos like yours helped me to be a more confident & wise car shopper. I'm in the southern part of the U.S & currently shopping for a used Highlander. I found a '16 Highlander with 87k miles at a Toyota dealer with the upgrades that I wanted. After I decided to walk away from the deal (because they kept changing the interest rates/monthly payment over 2 days of going there), miraculously they decided to sell me the car for $20k from $26k msrp with $0 down. I even got them to take off $998 that they claimed was to "recover" the car if it were stolen!! Another "bogus" unpsell cost.
I believe I did a great job as a female (this was my 2nd day going to the dealer) & my husband wasn't with me at this time I stood my ground & told them that I would go back to the drawing board. I knew that if they didn't come down in price, etc., then that was a sign to me from God that the car wasn't for me. And it worked in my favor!!🙏 The dealer is also doing a thorough pre-purchase detail & inspection of everything as required by the law where we are. In addition, I still plan on bringing the car to an outside mechanic to look over everything even after they are done!
This is dealer that sells 800 vehicles/mth which is high, esp. in our current market. Yet, I was still able to get the price, etc. that was right for me! The lesson I learned here is to be willing to walk away from a car when you like the features, miles, etc., when you believe dealer is trying to mislead/manipulate you in anyway. This way, they'll know you are not a customer that is going to fall for prey to their deceptions. The right dealer & car will fall into place for "your" best interests as it did for me!!
It was watching him walk and fingers that really helped me. Thanks guys!!
One of the most important is never ever tell them you are paying cash wait until you have and agreement in writing. That is the more important then anything he said. The dealer get a big kick back of a loan and he will reduce the price a little more. So never say you are paying cash just wait until everything is in writing.
Could you do an episode on "Certified Used Cars"? Do they really do an inspection or is it just a marketing technique to charge more?
Oh that’s a great question. I’m curious about that as well
Well certified used cars have the warranties attached to them as if ur buying the car new that start the day you buy it regardless of how many miles are already on the car.
daprinceomar interesting. I didn’t know that, thank you. What about Kia and Hyundai, do you get an additional 100k miles on the warranty?
@@jaredfehrens6988 "Certified pre-owned (CPO) cars are low-mileage used vehicles that are backed with warranty coverage and other extras by the original manufacturer"- thats the online definition i found. so im assuming if u find any CPO kias or hyundais you find will have their manufacturers warranties attached like those 3 yr 36k mile ones that ford have for example.
@@jaredfehrens6988 as a buyer, you would receive the remainder of the months/years on the warranty.
I think the title of the video is wrong. This seems like a "Things you should always do" video.
Yeah He might have forgotten the 4 things to never "forget* to do in that title
It's good when you get to the point quickly!
1.pre purchase inspection
2. Dont rely on Carfax/auto chex. Google the VIN to see if the car was damaged.
3. test drive the car.
4. dont pay too much. check price guidelines.
5. Dont pay an additional reconditioning fee
Ray # 5 before number one actually. When you do your DD check and see what goes wrong and at what mileage! Then ask your mechanic to see if they have been done! If not use the cost of the expected repairs to adjust your buying price. You can do this by simply going online or just ask the service or parts depts at a dealership, what goes wrong at x miles on x year vehicle!
Note: The pre-purchase inspection should also been done on any CPO vehicle offered at a dealership. I've returned an CPO offered vehicle with a list of items in need of repair and would not buy it.
great tip about running the VIN number on search engines. I'm a savvy used car buyer but never thought of doing that.. thank you
Bob, glad we could help. Stay safe, Ray
Best info of the video “go on that google machine” 😂
Thanks for the tips here. Good stuff, and all the videos have had some great insight. Nice work! 🍻
What's a Google machine
First, never buy from a used car lot. There are plenty of private sellers in the world. Car salesmen sell everyday. They are professionals. You, the buyer, are a rookie. There is absolutely no way you know what a dealer paid for a used car. Heck most of the time the salesman does not have a clue. They will eat you up.
watching you guys posts has become an enjoyable little event every day (maybe till I finally buy my car in plan). thank you Ray and Zack for bringing forward the helpful tips, and further more, I guess many will agree with me, a lovely pair of father and son enjoying time together. Stay safe and keep it up!!
Check that the year that's listed on the inside of the door frame is the same year that's on the title. I got burned. Bought a 2008 Toyota Scion that was really a 2006. Don't buy cars that were from out of state. You can end up buying a car that was rebuilt titled in Florida but that titled got "cleaned" once it was registered in KY. Not everyone who works in the clerks office is honest. Some take kickbacks from car dealers. Always meet in the clerks office when buying or selling a vehicle so that you know that the title has no liens or any other problems. Clerk's office is often in the same building as the sheriff's office, so it's a safe place to count and handle cash. Clerk's office will make sure that the buyer has the car insured in their name before the title is signed. This protects you from legal liability which would occur if you did the transaction outside on your own and the buyer drives without insurance and gets in a wreck, and also ensures that the vehicle is titled in their name; they can't cancel a check. It's their baby now if the car breaks down or gets in a wreck on their way home.
What happens if the used car dealership says they *don't* allow offsite pre-purchase inspections? I'm running into this a lot!
Walk away. That's a major red flag.
Great strong presence ! With those cars lined up behind you, and your wise advice to pair it up with, overall just very ingenious ! Thanks for all the information you give us, all very much appreciated.
Without question, the MOST important thing is a PRE-INSPECTION using an expensive Scan Tool. I have a very good friend, who is a Certified Mechanic. He uses one of these scanners all the time. He charges $150.00 to perform the scan. If, there are any problems he can print out the items with problems. Then, he can tell me what it will cost to perform the required maintenance. So, the buyer can then take this information to the Dealership as a bargaining tool. If, according to the scanner, the "codes" indicate you need a combined total of $500.00 in repairs, then bring this to the Dealership's Manager attention. Ask if he is willing to repair or reduce the cost. These inspections ALWAYS pay for themselves, trust me!
You're going to trust the dealer to do the "repairs"?
Anyone can buy a scan tool that will read the codes just as well as your freinds $150 a pop (wow) tool. Can get a scanner from Amazon for less than that $150 (again, wow!). If the scan tool comes up with codes, go to google and find out what they mean.
You're entitled to forgetting something. You have so much information it's understandable😁
Ray has a photographic memory. He's just out of film!
Mark, I've been trying to convert to digital memory and obviously it is not working! Stay safe, Ray
The recon fee tip was spot on! I’ve seen that happen plenty of times, great call.
Even after I just bought my first truck I’m still here watching you guys !😁
Thanks Rigoberto, we appreciate it. Stay safe, Ray
If you get any thumbs down for this video, them sales folk should just stop watching your videos. 😄 Great information. 👍🏻
They are dealerships with the thumbs down and the people who wanted him to remember all 4 points without any hints lol
Talk about CarMax. I bought a car from them and so did my neighbor. Both of us have been very happy with our cars and thought the deal fair. They say they give all their cars a safety inspection and a 30 day guarantee.
If the pre-owned vehicle is at a major dealership, has low miles & is still under it’s factory warranty, then I’d personally pass on a third party inspection. Major dealers have a reputation to protect, so all of the junk is typically just wholesaled out. The used cars you (might) want to avoid are the ones at corner-lot dealers w/multiple owners, expired warranties & high mileage. Those cars are typically there for a reason..... sometimes it’s okay to pay a little more for a better car. I’ve said this a million times, but the less miles the better when buying pre-owned.
This needs to be a regular series. Can call it, "Where is Ray walking now?"
Good tips. And remembering three out four from memory is excellent. I think my limit is two on average.
Would love to see your guys' take on used car dealer "document fees". What exactly do they entail, why are they not simply rolled into the sticker price of the car, and what fees are legitimate versus bogus. Thanks!!
Could you explain the “how” of getting an inspection before buying a used car? Would you be asking the owner to hand the car over to you while you take the vehicle to your mechanic? I wouldn’t do such a thing if I were selling a vehicle. I don’t understand the logistics of what you are recommending.
That's what I have done. I get to the point where we've agreed on price then I tell them that, as a last step, I need to have my mechanic do a quick inspection. I've never had any sellers that had a problem with it but maybe that's because I buy my used cars from dealers.
Question.
How does the insurance thing work on a vehicle purchase? Will they provide you with temporary insurance so you can drive the car home or must I purchase my own i surance prior to taking possession of the vehicle?
Mr. Hicks you would need to purchase your own insurance prior to taking possession. Stay safe, Ray
seems like a lot of work & a ton of things to remember. I'll just date someone with car to drive me around or they may even let me borrow their car.
Thanks for the four...err five tips! Always appreciate your auto dealership experience.
Also, use that mic for every video. The audio on this one was excellent.
I have used Lemon Squad a few times. Back a couple of years ago, they did the inspection and the report either the same day or maybe the next morning. Now they take the order one day, the next day is the inspection, then the next day you are waiting and waiting and waiting. Meanwhile the car you are hoping to buy is still on the market. Now I am at the end of the day at day 3 and still do not have a report. DO NOT USE LEMON SQUAD!!
Zac please ask Ray to re count one time that the purchaser got the better of Ray when buying a car(new or used) and how he changed his approach after he realised that he had been taken, cheers Michael
Good advice about googling the vin. Ive done that and was surprised how much a car was passed from one dealer to another.
I love this channel. Hilarious but so informative!!
Good Video! Suggestions are very focused approach to buying a car and should be done if really interested in less stress and problems down the road. Once you have settled on car and price the independent inspection is absolutely way to go unless you purchase a scan tool or have a friend that has one to help inspect car properly.
Enjoying the videos. I do have a great idea for you for your future video. If you can discuss the hummer loophole and how businesses can take advantage of 6000lb vehicles and how tax deduction for it works. From what to expect and real world numbers, to equity savings in the long run. I find the topic very interesting and I doubt many know of it
# 4.5 Never buy from a dealer buy private unless it is an exceptional deal.
If it's an exceptional deal you haven't figured out how you're being cheated.
@@wholeNwon Only once did I get a great deal from a used car dealer because he did not know what he had... Long before the internet in Quebec Canada!
and 6, wear sunscreen....
Love the "look on a Google machine" quote.
After two days of online negating....month end and quarterly end, the used car guy still won't take offer. He wants me to name a price now? I found the KBB low price, added $1250. I know it's a trade in and they probably gave 9000 on it. THey're making a profit. What all the cat and mouse? What do dealers NOT like to hear. I've walked away from many deals. How about a video on that.....what they don't want to hear, what pisses them off, how to get out of the FOREVER negotiating, and cut to the best price. Period. I'd rather set my hair on fire than buy a car. Just a terrible process. I do like y'alls channel....very helpful.
@Russell Peacock Very true. I'm guessing that it was a trade in and they got the smallest KBB amount. They've countered at least! We're close...I said go to the second pencil and maybe we have a deal. Thanks for all the helpful information
That recon fee is the biggest scam !!!! Some dealerships tag that on to the pre-owned cars around here in Phoenix
#5 Don't give up your cheat sheet!
Love ya Ray!
Ray, my last 3 cars have all been CPOs...is the inspection necessary with factory certified vehicles? Assuming you ask the right questions and get a Carfax at the time of purchase.
I love your behind the scene scoops. " it's actually Sunday". lol. Oh yeah, and of course love the advice, that goes without saying.
here's one more check the spare tire. new cars are coming with out them. I just traded in a chrysler town and country. never had a spare. i asked the dealer when i bought it , he said it did. i didn't check for 6 months. now 6 years later , someone is getting my van.
I googled the vin # on a 1987 Grand National that I was interested in and I got a listing from a local auto trader in California. I’m in Illinois and the car was in California the car at 27,000 miles in the Auto trader which the listing had expired it and the person had it on eBay with 27,000 miles on odometer but it didn’t have an original speedometer /odometer it was a GNX performance speedometer/ odometer but the car was real clean no rust but that’s because it was a California car. I spent the money and did a Carfax report and it shows that the car had 173,000 miles on it. When I contacted the guy through eBay and told him it’s funny the same car was in the auto trader and on eBay with 27,000 miles but the Carfax shows it has 173,000, well long story short he never contacted me back, and he never sold the car on eBay either. For all I know this car could’ve went around to 227,000 miles with the car being 33 years old. Buyer beware of cars especially in California they don’t show their age from salt. If I would’ve bought that and found out afterwords the headache I would’ve subjected myself to, having to file a lawsuit with this guy to get my money back. And the guy was selling it “as is” another tip off .I’m glad I spent the money on the Carfax.
Great information and thanks guys for keeping your videos interesting.
all small dealer cars come from auctions always damage some where
The first you should not do is stand in front of Buicks. Just ask Scotty Kilmer why.
Nice to see you going over a topic I texted you about. I’m proud to be food for you creative process..
Look for more creative input
Hey Bob, trust me it is tiring to try and come up with shit to talk about all on our own. Thanks for helping. Ray
Hey Bob, trust me it is tiring to try and come up with shit to talk about all on our own. Thanks for helping. Ray
I don't want to drive it. I just want my old car back. I'm not falling for this. Let's go, Russ.
Ray do a video on the test ride and to do and look for when buying a used car! Private sale buyers this might be a real helpful video!
Getting the car checked out by your own mechanic, that you hopefully trust, is the best advice in buying used if you want a reliable car. I've always done this.
The mechanic I trust doesn't do inspecting the car for people. The "pre buying car inspection" business, that has mix google reviews (some good, some bad) charges high price and mileages.
I don't know how to test drive with something like people use to say, feel the struts, go fast on highway (highways in my city used to have back up traffic)..like people say and can't find anybody to do it for me.
I test drove a used 2018 Dodge Challenger Scatpack today with almost 30,000 miles. When I brought to my mechanic he noticed right off that the front bumper had been repainted. This was after I was told that it have never been in an accident.
It might not have been in an accident. Front and rear bumpers get scuffed and scraped all the time and need to be repainted, that doesn't mean it was an accident. Stay safe, Ray
I can take a vehicle to my trusted mechanic for a pre-purchase inspection but only if the dealer allows it. Do you know of a dealer who allows you to take a vehicle off their lot? I don't. It only works if your mechanic can travel to the dealer's lot and not many will do this because it takes them away from their shop with their lift and tools. I guess the solution is to find someone with a mobile service that will do this.
I have never worked for a dealership that wouldn't allow the customer to make arrangements to take a used vehicle to their mechanic. Hell, we used to send the car with our lot attendant so that the customer wouldn't have to tie up their time to do it. But that was just the way we did business. Stay safe, Ray
Great video. Great camera work and lighting.
Thanks for the video. Just a question on point #1
Some dealerships will claim that their used vehicles have undergone some multi-point inspection ad can even provide a checklist of those items. Would you still recommend having your own private mechanic look at it or is the dealership inspection good enough? Thanks.
NEVER EVER trust ANYTHING a dealer tells you...period. No exceptions ever.
What it u can't bring a mechanic to the dealership?
@@walterbandeira6394 Drive the car to your mechanic, duh.
related but unrelated. would you do a segment providing transferable advise for making a purchase from a private owner vs. a dealership or online repository.
i mean frame it as "here's what you would do at a dealership but here's how yu could get the same result since that may not work thru a private owner," that type of advise.
with so many rentals hitting the market soon, people -- like myself -- are already including private owners as a purchase option. what are some do's and don'ts to consider (where possible)?
nice buick lot.....i get my crew 3800 engines.....park avenue....regals....lacrosse....lasabre.... esp.looking at 2005 to 2011 lucerne....they are well under 100k miles ....3500 to 4500.....best value out there we get 300k miles from these and less repair than town cars
4 reasons I love this channel:
1. Ray walking
2. Ray (bans)
3. Ray ( holding 3 fingers up)
4. ZAC (jk RAY)
Love both you guys!
These guys are the best.Classic father son bickering!!!!
Always check the value on KBB!!!
Don't ever but ANYTHING from one of those "fly-by-night, here-today-gone-tomorrow" car lots you can find pretty much everywhere.
do dealers allow potential buyers to take the vehicle to an off site mechanic for pre purchase inspection?
Yes, most dealers will allow you to do that. If they won't then ask yourself this question: what are they trying to hide? Stay safe, Ray
Good question, can I ad, if u r going to take the car to a trusted mechanic, why not buy from a private owner? You’ll get a better deal.
Absolutely they should if they don't don't even bother buying the car there must be something wrong with it if they won't let you have it checked
@@lrac88510 I agree. My private owner purchases have been a great way to save money and an inspection from a trusted mechanic is a must. Like Ray mentioned, the only downside is any vehicle can have problems after purchasing it even if an inspection is done and it passes per your mechanic. If these problems happen on a vehicle purchased from a dealer, then you have the dealer to contact for help/recourse, plus they usually have a limited warranty like 30 day/1,000 mile warranty. With a private party, you are usually on your own and it's typically an as-is sale but can be worth the risk in the end. Take care!
Out in the field, I love it
I love when ppl always say have your mechanic check it out. What is this mechanic that I have. They all charge to much to even talk to and I would have to make a appointment.
Either know how to inspect a car, or pay for someone who knows how to. Try and bring a friend or family member that knows how to.
Exactly what im thinking. Who tf is this special mechanic thats doing car inspections for me? lmao
Here's another tip: Don't buy a Chrysler🤢🤮
The pimp in me wants to but the brain in me doesn’t
Should I be cautious if the vehicles cost is $3000 to $4,000 less than others of the same model, year and mileage? This vehicle I'm looking at has 32,000 miles with an accident report stating the vehicle got hit on the rear passenger side of the truck bed.
how do you get an independent inspection? Do you do the test drive and then have a mechanic go to the lot the next day? Would the dealership not be pissed about that?
joinyaa.com/guides/pre-purchase-inspection/ :-)
@@CarEdge thanks. But says to do ppi after your new car is "delivered". Seems that would be too late. Looks like you have to get a mechanic to go look at it at the same time and day when you test drive. Or maybe the dealer wont mind a two hour test drive during which you could take the car to a mechanic.
How do you get a mechanic to look at it? Would they have to go to the car lot? Or do they let you take it to a shop?
It could happen either way depending on the seller. Stay safe, Ray
Is Kelly Blue Book a good guide when comparing prices? Also, if buying CPO should you still get a mechanic inspection? Thanks guys👍
Anthony Kelly Blue Book is a respected source for used car values and yes you should even have a pre-purchase inspection performed on a CPO car. Stay safe, Ray
Thanks guys I really needed this advice!🙂
I recently inquired on a few used cars at dealers. While no reconditioning fee they all have a document fee of 500...650. That's not tags and tax. Is this fee appropriate.
Great video but in regards to #4, how does one negotiate that fee away? In my area, there's only 2 dealerships that do not charge a dealer fee. (Of course, then they refuse to negotiate the vehicle price!) Every other dealer charges between $700-1000 in dealer fees & some have the nerve to also charge admin/paperwork fees of $200-300 on top of that. Pure rip-off profit by the dealers! Me, I've pretty much given up fighting those fees w/them and simply negotiate 'out-the door' prices. Doesn't solve the matter but makes me feel better about it all. I'm used-car shopping for my daughter right now so whatever advice you have to offer is appreciated.
Is it true that there is is 4th of July savings on new cars? Or the tv commercials fake?
I am interested in a used car, and contacted a dealer. There was the internet person, where I started a process.There was no contact with that dealership for over a day or two. I received today a message from the general manager from the dealership. My doubts whether they will change the way they approach any deal, be it price w/e.
#1 Never buy it from a dealership, they train the employees to rip you off and will work on you as a team. #2 Never trade your car in, sell it yourself and save big money. #3 Make sure the car has a good track record of reliability and resale value. #4 Always have it inspected by a neutral mechanic or your choosing. #5 Buy your car from a private individual who has taken good care of the car and has all the records of it's maintenance. Just a tip, if they take good care of their yard and home they will have taken good care of the car. #6 Never fall in love with the first car you see, keep shopping! If you pick a car that is the same make as the rental car Companies use but is a the top of the line model, people can't get good money for the car because of all the lesser rental cars for sale. Such as, the Toyota Camry is a very popular rental car but they only rent the LE grade cars so only look for a XLE, XLE V-6 or a limited and they won't be ex rental cars and the owners can't get top dollar because of all the affordable rentals on every lot.
Love all you're videos, thank you!
Now how can I really know if I am dealing with a reputable dealership and/or salesmen?
Read their online reviews and check with the Better Business Bureau. Stay safe, Ray
Love the video Ray's out getting some sun
Some of these “don’t do” items are grossly impractical. Getting the vehicle checked out by a mechanic before you buy. For this one to be even remotely feasible, the mechanic would have to be geographically near the seller’s location, and the mechanic would have to have a time slot available, at the buyer’s convenience, to inspect the vehicle. Also, what dealership (or private seller) is going to hand over the keys to a prospective buyer while the prospective buyer takes the vehicle “wherever” to be inspected? People simply don’t behave this way. The same applies to the idea that a good friend would be permitted to act as a proxy of some sort to test drive a vehicle that I might buy.
After my Carfax experience last year I will not trust it or any similar service. Went with one of my kids to look at a used car at a Honda dealership. Carfax showed no issues. Cool. When we looked at the car it clearly had a significant amount of body work all around the car and the grill/front bumper had zip ties. Wow! For grins we drove it around the parking lot and it was even worse. We went to the manager and expressed our disappointment they would even allow this car on their lot. I had previously thought this dealer was ok. Be warned.
Great info and appreciate your perspective. Currently in the market for a used car for youngest kid.
What did the manager say ?
I once asked a salesman if i could scan the car prior to test driving it with my scan tool. He was clueless. Had to explain what I meant. Then he went to talk to his manager. A few minutes later here comes their mechanic with their scan tool. As expected no codes were detected. Parked in a gas station during the test drive, connected my scan tool. Yes there were no current codes however scan tool says "RUN TIME SINCE TROUBLE CODES CLEARED = 6 HOURS +MINUTES +SECONDS". Came back to the dealer and told them i'm not feeling the car. Didn't bother to find out what the code was. I'm not taking a risk.
@@MangDionisio Your first step was clearly right: You chose a typically very reliable brand and model.
Sadly, the dealers are not budging anymore about removing the reconditioning fee.
I'm looking a 2017 cpo camry with 26k miles on it. Carfax has it getting serviced by the dealer every 5k. Do you think i should get my mechanic to look at it?
First off if you are buying a used vehicle from a dealers lot you are protected already for a short period of time and milage. Secondly if you are buying CPO vehicle from a dealers lot you are golden in your protection from future issues for at least a year or 12.5K. So why pay for a vehicle inspection?? This video should have been titled "What you must do when you buy a used vehicle from a private party or a non dealer used car lot."
How do you go about getting a pre-purchase inspection on a used vehicle that is out of state and I don't have someone to test drive? Just give up on the deal? Just for a deal closer to home?
Russell there is a company called Lemon Squad that helps people coordinate pre-owned car pre purchase inspections nationwide. www.lemonsquad.com is their website. Stay safe, Ray
@@CarEdge thanks for the quick reply!
love it ray,even though im in the UK .keep it coming .cheers.
Problem is there is no such thing as a mechanic I can trust...there worse then the used car salesman
That’s false, they have nothing to gain from lying to you in a private sale.
You guys SO help us!!
Nice , short and too the point!
What if the car is in another state...and u don't have no one to test drive it.???
I wonder who would down vote Ray's videos. Maybe it's sales folks from dealers that screw people.
Me: sees thumbnail, guy leans on a red chevy
Also me: Nooo!! You are going to break that chevy and get red paint all over you!!!
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Hey ray, I see you are in a Buick dealership. I like the Buick lacrosse. For a used one 2017 or 2018. You think with good credit I can finance one for a decent price? And what you think would be my monthly payment
Danny, I don't work at a dealership any longer. It was just a lot that we could film at last Sunday. Sorry. Stay safe, Ray
@@CarEdge ok thanks anyway ray, take care
Hi Ray, appreciate the content. What would you say to buying a Mazda MX5 2018 with only 2000km on it? The car would be sold by a dealer that is bound by 3 months of statutory warranty for any repairs, etc. Thanks in advance.
Dennis if you like it and it checks out then buy it but please get a pre-purchase inspection done to make sure that there are no hidden issues. All the best, Ray
@@CarEdge Got it, thanks Ray!