I've not come across a more balanced viewpoint which stuck to facts alone. There was no incitement to hatred. The knock on effect of this censorship is oppression.
I have a great story on this. I was going to a famous underground music club in london (fabric), they don’t allow collard shirts in the club, generally anything smart you won’t get in. I was in a suit after work, and decided to try and go. I knew the head doorman, but i knew all the door staff would immediately say no. Anyway, I said please can you let me talk to the head guy, he told me politely that i couldn’t come inside with a shirt and a suit. He did however say, that if i had a t shirt on then he’d let me in (as a bit of a joke). Anyway a girl was joining me at the club, and I quickly text her asking if she could bring a t shirt, she only had women’s crop tops etc. Anyway she brought the crop top, and i stuff my dress shirt in my briefcase and walked up to the door after changing. The guy let me in, wearing a full suit and a women’s white crop top with a briefcase. If you are reasonable and eloquent to door staff, and you explain yourself, you’ll probably get in.
I would love to hear the story behind 'Pantera Security' back in the 90s. I remember they looked complete cowboys, utterly terrifying and up to no good - but maybe they were all hat and no cattle..
You are an inspiration for me as a man. Have been watching your videos and now I see how idiotic I was. Your tips are valuable for life, not just for the security guys
Can't say I've ever worked on the doors, but I grew up on a scheme in Scotland where random violence was very much the norm. I had very similar experiences: You can usually de-escalate things if someone has a perceived slight, but if they're just out for trouble, they will generally fuck off when they realise you're not phased by the prospect of being battered and will stand your ground anyway. Worst comes to worst, one of them gets a sore face before you do!
I went from bouncing to sales. Its not the exact same thing, but its not as different as many think. Youre persuading someone to make the right decision in both jobs.
In London I frequently went to establishments and I was never rejected. I always behaved nice, because I gotta admit those bouncers looked intimidating... those yorkshire terriers before the tea houses!
I've had my teeth knocked out, stabbed and 12 stitches in my head from a boot...I ve hung my boots up now ...no more bundles for me..i prefer to read books at home I can't be arsed with violence anymore.
Although I work in a completely different industry, I appreciate your calling out the cold hard facts about human nature that we can apply in everyday situations. Thank you! P.S. Dealing with drunks can be similar to dealing with toddlers 😆
As I listen I see how this all can apply not just to security, but living well as a whole. Being able to watch people and intervene before things get rough at the club is similar to how it's good to act with personal relationships, or with our relationship to ourselves as well. Often a watchful mind, listening to our gut feelings, and a careful response as soon as thing start to seem a bit dicey is better than letting them escalate and explode later. At that point it's harder to make space to respond, rather than just react. Also the value of honesty, and of just gauging up front if a person or situation is a good fit for you, and respectfully but firmly doing what works for you. It's like each of our lives is a sort of venue in a sense, one that goes most smoothly if we remain mindful of the situation and are in tune, rather than being distracted or avoiding facing problems skillfully. We have to decide what gets to come in, and make sure to be watchful of what's going on inside.
I went to a club twice, different clubs. The first time, I mostly talked with a female bartender and a male bouncer. I don't really like the energy in those places. At the biker bar where I performed as a musician, they had a huge biker guy at the door. I never saw any fights or anything, and the energy was much better than it was in the clubs. When I was in high school, word spreads quickly, and I had a reputation that I wasn't to be messed with. It's different in the real world where nobody knows who you are.
I remember there was this gay club in my old town that used to serve cheap beer. We were stopped by the security, me and my mates could get in but they would not let our girlfriends in, but 5 minutes later when lesbian couple couple got in, we had to change our plans. Next week our girlfriends went in first then we went in after, and all had a good time and this happened week after week.
I remember getting turned away by a doorman when on a night out with my two mates. A group of 5 lads walked in with no issues before us then we were asked two questions (which we answered): Do you have ID? (Yes) Where are you from? (Birmingham) His response was “Not tonight lads, you’ve come with the wrong attitude”. We wore shoes and shirts with a collar as not having these on previous occasions was the reason we denied entry (or so we were told). The only visible difference between the group of 5 lads that were allowed in and me and my 2 mates was our ethnicity. Great video as always. Keep them coming 👍🏾
Great vids about the doors. Could you do a vid on the craziest fights you seen in your career and highly skilled hand 2 hand guys. Its very interesting from a martial art 🥋 hand 2 hand perspective. Like urban combatives and the fence etc real stories are factual.
Your videos are enthralling - informative and entertaining. The fact that all of them are extemporaneous illustrates the breadth of your knowledge and experience. Keep making more !
Great video. I don't even work in security but a lot of your advice can be applied to every day situations. You may have done a video on this already, but would you consider discussing the attendance at clubs when you worked security verses the current attendance in clubs today (the difference between the two) and how it affects security? I know you've touched on how security has changed (it's generally weaker present day) but I also believe club attendance has changed as well. I know in the U.S., a lot of clubs have shut down due to a lack of attendance because so much has shifted to online. I'm not sure if that's the case in the U.K as well. Thanks again for the time you put in to making this video.
I have worked both doors and managed venues. Nothing worse than either weak management or doorstaff. My rule of tbumb has always been to make the borderline punters pay extra.
When he started talking about the ‘script’ thing that was amazing to see that concept analyzed so well. I’d noticed that same thing about myself and others and most people don’t talk about it cuz they don’t wanna seem crazy or neurotic but, I also believe it’s a very common thing. And, can often be negative. Honesty is truly the best antidote for it. Great Wisdom in this video ^^
I can’t believe you mentioned the George at Asda one😂. I worked a venue that genuinely had a no trainers policy and 200 yards away there was an Asda. We had LOADS of occasions where lads did exactly as you described and came back with shoes on. Obviously if they were idiots, they got turned away regardless of footwear.
Well said con from Ireland 🇮🇪 done security for 10 years shops hospital clubs and lot other ting got all went true it all brilliant content keep it coming and Thanks con from Ireland 🇮🇪 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
When I was a policeman I worked with a redhead who loved aggro. He got into endless fights. Any size offender, didn't care. I am sure he was addicted to adrenaline. I could just talk those same offenders into behaving, sigh.
Unfortunately the comnent section was bombarded by bots and nutters. It became a full time job keeping up moderation. I turned comments off and they spilled to other videos and even other platforms. I am only one person and I work full time. I just cannot service such a polarizing topic at the moment.
It happend to me to be refused entry to the club and when I asked why the doorman replied "its complete". But all the girls could go inside. I didnt look like trash so it was a bit frustrating to be refused that way for no obvious reason.
Topic: If you could have a video about security loss prevention culture 80s, 90s vs today (less cams back then vs today. Today - social media engineering / bad actors who do reconnaissance within the club already communicate with those who do the dirty work). Edit: BTW I may have overplayed the 'social engineering' aspect. I should just say someone on the inside, doing recon for someone/many on the outside without drawing attention.
@@thatgearguy I appreciate the reply. Both situations are possible. If an actual employee/contractor is involved, they are essentially no different from an patron/outsider. My perspective, respectfully, comes from basic-level training under someone who was quite intense-a professional trainer and bodyguard who seemed adept at playing both sides. The ultimate goal could vary: it could be to set up a win for the company or law enforcement, or it could be for personal gain or criminal activity.
I'm an usher/doorguy at a church in not the greatest area. Any advice on how to deal with people on stimulant drugs, also fentanyl? How they think/act ect. Thank you. I appreciate you much sir
@@rodgerhempfing2921 I don't know if they have a policy on that. One that was yelling and screaming had to make him leave. But for the most part they are pretty graceful people which will share food and things with them if they are respectful.
Unfortunately the comnent section was bombarded by bots and nutters. It became a full time job keeping up moderation. I turned comments off and they spilled to other videos and even other platforms. I am only one person and I work full time. I just cannot service such a polarizing topic at the moment.
I drink alcohol but dont do drugs, I could never see how anyone could stand spending a night at a club if they werent on drugs Much rather go to pub or bar
In the service industry, you’re working while everyone else has off. If you could do it again, would you pick it different industry where you worked regular hours ,or are u happy with how it played out n feel u didn’t miss out?
I really enjoyed being in clubs and getting paid at the same time. It was a very sociable job. I met a few girls, had some great laughs and woke up with cash in my pocket and no hangover. I dont regret it.
Young lads need to watch your videos instead of those red pill alpha-chad videos. You have much better advice and you present it in a manner much more in keeping with a pleasant and civil society!
Hi. I took it down after getting bombarded with crazy comments, emails ect. I just didnt have the capacity to deal with them all. I might reupload with comments switched off.
3:52 It”s funny you said, you can’t select entering people based on prejudice, ie. sexuality or looks. And yet they doing this all the time in nightclubs: beautiful chicks coming in on instant, ugly chicks and males have to wait in queue 😂😂😂😂
In case it's gone - your previous video on the UK protest situation was again very balanced, fair, reasonable and moderate.
Certain reasonable non-offensive opinions explain truths that aren't universally accepted.
I think it's been removed
Yep gooooown .. vanished
and it is removed!
we've got so much freedom of speech here in the UK.
I've not come across a more balanced viewpoint which stuck to facts alone. There was no incitement to hatred. The knock on effect of this censorship is oppression.
I have a great story on this.
I was going to a famous underground music club in london (fabric), they don’t allow collard shirts in the club, generally anything smart you won’t get in.
I was in a suit after work, and decided to try and go. I knew the head doorman, but i knew all the door staff would immediately say no.
Anyway, I said please can you let me talk to the head guy, he told me politely that i couldn’t come inside with a shirt and a suit. He did however say, that if i had a t shirt on then he’d let me in (as a bit of a joke).
Anyway a girl was joining me at the club, and I quickly text her asking if she could bring a t shirt, she only had women’s crop tops etc.
Anyway she brought the crop top, and i stuff my dress shirt in my briefcase and walked up to the door after changing.
The guy let me in, wearing a full suit and a women’s white crop top with a briefcase.
If you are reasonable and eloquent to door staff, and you explain yourself, you’ll probably get in.
I would love to hear the story behind 'Pantera Security' back in the 90s. I remember they looked complete cowboys, utterly terrifying and up to no good - but maybe they were all hat and no cattle..
You are an inspiration for me as a man. Have been watching your videos and now I see how idiotic I was. Your tips are valuable for life, not just for the security guys
Can't say I've ever worked on the doors, but I grew up on a scheme in Scotland where random violence was very much the norm. I had very similar experiences: You can usually de-escalate things if someone has a perceived slight, but if they're just out for trouble, they will generally fuck off when they realise you're not phased by the prospect of being battered and will stand your ground anyway. Worst comes to worst, one of them gets a sore face before you do!
I went from bouncing to sales. Its not the exact same thing, but its not as different as many think. Youre persuading someone to make the right decision in both jobs.
Me to. If you can talk people down from a fight you can sell..
Thanks for taking time to share your experience, your opinion has enormous value.
In London I frequently went to establishments and I was never rejected. I always behaved nice, because I gotta admit those bouncers looked intimidating... those yorkshire terriers before the tea houses!
I spoke to a bouncer who had been stabbed. The knife man was only banned for 1 month by management. Mind you, he was in hospital for a month.
I've had my teeth knocked out, stabbed and 12 stitches in my head from a boot...I ve hung my boots up now ...no more bundles for me..i prefer to read books at home I can't be arsed with violence anymore.
Henry Rollins put out a great T-shirt with 'Search and destroy', No Means No put out the same design but it said 'Stay home read a book'.
Although I work in a completely different industry, I appreciate your calling out the cold hard facts about human nature that we can apply in everyday situations. Thank you! P.S. Dealing with drunks can be similar to dealing with toddlers 😆
Love these videos, quality content i wonder if you got any stories about squaddies, as an ex squaddie the doormen hated us 😂 keep up the good content
Shame your video on the riots has gone. It was a fair minded well explained opinion that needed to be more widely seen.
But did it go downbeczuse of the violence in the clips?
Now I wish I could see it somewhere else. How long ago was it and how long did it stay up?
As I listen I see how this all can apply not just to security, but living well as a whole. Being able to watch people and intervene before things get rough at the club is similar to how it's good to act with personal relationships, or with our relationship to ourselves as well. Often a watchful mind, listening to our gut feelings, and a careful response as soon as thing start to seem a bit dicey is better than letting them escalate and explode later. At that point it's harder to make space to respond, rather than just react.
Also the value of honesty, and of just gauging up front if a person or situation is a good fit for you, and respectfully but firmly doing what works for you. It's like each of our lives is a sort of venue in a sense, one that goes most smoothly if we remain mindful of the situation and are in tune, rather than being distracted or avoiding facing problems skillfully. We have to decide what gets to come in, and make sure to be watchful of what's going on inside.
Agree. Many things I observed and practiced in security helped me in everyday life...
You couldn't speak wiser words.
I used to DJ in rough pubs. So well used to the psychology of drunk people.
Excellent video yet again great advice and very insightful and true.
MY PET HATE IS RETAIL SECURITY STAFF STOCKING SHELFS PUSHING TROLLEYS & PACKING BAGS.MEAN-TIME THE SHOP-LIFTERS ARE HAVING A BALL.
Why do you have to scream that opinion?
@@brokens1097perhaps it's the HATE
I went to a club twice, different clubs. The first time, I mostly talked with a female bartender and a male bouncer. I don't really like the energy in those places.
At the biker bar where I performed as a musician, they had a huge biker guy at the door. I never saw any fights or anything, and the energy was much better than it was in the clubs.
When I was in high school, word spreads quickly, and I had a reputation that I wasn't to be messed with. It's different in the real world where nobody knows who you are.
I remember there was this gay club in my old town that used to serve cheap beer. We were stopped by the security, me and my mates could get in but they would not let our girlfriends in, but 5 minutes later when lesbian couple couple got in, we had to change our plans. Next week our girlfriends went in first then we went in after, and all had a good time and this happened week after week.
I remember getting turned away by a doorman when on a night out with my two mates.
A group of 5 lads walked in with no issues before us then we were asked two questions (which we answered):
Do you have ID? (Yes)
Where are you from? (Birmingham)
His response was “Not tonight lads, you’ve come with the wrong attitude”.
We wore shoes and shirts with a collar as not having these on previous occasions was the reason we denied entry (or so we were told).
The only visible difference between the group of 5 lads that were allowed in and me and my 2 mates was our ethnicity.
Great video as always. Keep them coming 👍🏾
It is always possible the doorman was a total asshole. It happens.
Great vids about the doors. Could you do a vid on the craziest fights you seen in your career and highly skilled hand 2 hand guys. Its very interesting from a martial art 🥋 hand 2 hand perspective. Like urban combatives and the fence etc real stories are factual.
Your videos are enthralling - informative and entertaining. The fact that all of them are extemporaneous illustrates the breadth of your knowledge and experience. Keep making more !
I worked a club in Barnsley that was so rough you’d have to throw the customers IN!
P.S. For that line of work, I thought you’d be… bigger.
Great video. I don't even work in security but a lot of your advice can be applied to every day situations. You may have done a video on this already, but would you consider discussing the attendance at clubs when you worked security verses the current attendance in clubs today (the difference between the two) and how it affects security? I know you've touched on how security has changed (it's generally weaker present day) but I also believe club attendance has changed as well. I know in the U.S., a lot of clubs have shut down due to a lack of attendance because so much has shifted to online. I'm not sure if that's the case in the U.K as well. Thanks again for the time you put in to making this video.
I have worked both doors and managed venues. Nothing worse than either weak management or doorstaff. My rule of tbumb has always been to make the borderline punters pay extra.
When he started talking about the ‘script’ thing that was amazing to see that concept analyzed so well. I’d noticed that same thing about myself and others and most people don’t talk about it cuz they don’t wanna seem crazy or neurotic but, I also believe it’s a very common thing. And, can often be negative.
Honesty is truly the best antidote for it. Great Wisdom in this video ^^
Thanks!
You got a way of saying stories that makes it so captivating, and you teach real valuable lessons along with it. Keep up the content man, bravo 👏
Glad you like them!
Love these videos man. Very good insight into a world I don't really know much about.
Keep it up!
Geoff Thompson said the same thing, give them an honorable way out
Sorry to hear about your last video glad I watched it quick like. Wish I could like this one twice for that.
You've terrified me of ever going to a bar in England.
I can’t believe you mentioned the George at Asda one😂. I worked a venue that genuinely had a no trainers policy and 200 yards away there was an Asda. We had LOADS of occasions where lads did exactly as you described and came back with shoes on. Obviously if they were idiots, they got turned away regardless of footwear.
@@DS-kg4do Ha yes I guess you are doomed on dresscode knockbacks if Asda is nearby!!
You are such a good storyteller! I really enjoy these. Cheers to you from Canada 🍻
Thanks so much!
I'm a teacher, this is great advice for my colleagues 👍
Glad it was helpful!
You have a great way of explaining things.
Well said con from Ireland 🇮🇪 done security for 10 years shops hospital clubs and lot other ting got all went true it all brilliant content keep it coming and Thanks con from Ireland 🇮🇪 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks Con! Have a great day bud!
Great advice and insight in this video.
😊 good video.
GREAT WORK CHAMP!!💥
AUSTRALIA!!🤍💙❤️💯👊
Always a great talk :)
whenever I have been rejected from a club, I would ask why and the follow up would always be. "i dont have to tell you why"
Then they are pretty rubbish doormen! If you dont tell people what was wrong with their behaviour, how can you expect them to modify it!?
When I was a policeman I worked with a redhead who loved aggro. He got into endless fights. Any size offender, didn't care. I am sure he was addicted to adrenaline. I could just talk those same offenders into behaving, sigh.
Outstanding video !!!!!!
Respectfully: where did your last video go?
Have a feeling it's related to policy regarding logical options that offended & got reported by a single person.
Unfortunately the comnent section was bombarded by bots and nutters. It became a full time job keeping up moderation. I turned comments off and they spilled to other videos and even other platforms. I am only one person and I work full time. I just cannot service such a polarizing topic at the moment.
It was definitely attacked. Even my emails began to get hacking attempts. And bots in comment en masse.
Ok, understandable. What a pity it’s come to this.
That's insane. Keep at the good work mate.
Chuck Norris doesn’t wear a watch. He decides what time it is.
Excellent
Be Nice, Until it's time not to be nice
But how do we know when that is?
love these videos
It happend to me to be refused entry to the club and when I asked why the doorman replied "its complete". But all the girls could go inside. I didnt look like trash so it was a bit frustrating to be refused that way for no obvious reason.
Sometimes a doorteam will try to balance entry. Nobody wants a club full of blokes. But they should just be honest about it.
Topic: If you could have a video about security loss prevention culture 80s, 90s vs today (less cams back then vs today.
Today - social media engineering / bad actors who do reconnaissance within the club already communicate with those who do the dirty work).
Edit:
BTW I may have overplayed the 'social engineering' aspect. I should just say someone on the inside, doing recon for someone/many on the outside without drawing attention.
I am unsure what you mean in the last part? Do you mean customers with bad intent doing recon for others? Or security doing recon and relaying info?
@@thatgearguy I appreciate the reply. Both situations are possible. If an actual employee/contractor is involved, they are essentially no different from an patron/outsider. My perspective, respectfully, comes from basic-level training under someone who was quite intense-a professional trainer and bodyguard who seemed adept at playing both sides. The ultimate goal could vary: it could be to set up a win for the company or law enforcement, or it could be for personal gain or criminal activity.
Could you talk about steroid use amongst door staff, and particularly how it affects their behavior and decision making.
I discuss that a little here - th-cam.com/video/2Mjlk8C1SP0/w-d-xo.html
I'm an usher/doorguy at a church in not the greatest area. Any advice on how to deal with people on stimulant drugs, also fentanyl? How they think/act ect. Thank you. I appreciate you much sir
What is your church policy, that matters.
@@rodgerhempfing2921 I don't know if they have a policy on that. One that was yelling and screaming had to make him leave. But for the most part they are pretty graceful people which will share food and things with them if they are respectful.
Keep your hands open. Closed fists look like you want to punch. You can’t grab if your fist is closed.
How much does the kind of music contribute to violence? We like live music, usually Folk. I don't recall any security at those venues.
Alot! I would take a folk gig any day over R+B nights!
Drum & Bass was the worst for me.
I would really like to see the video that got taken down, is there any chance it would show up again ?
Unfortunately the comnent section was bombarded by bots and nutters. It became a full time job keeping up moderation. I turned comments off and they spilled to other videos and even other platforms. I am only one person and I work full time. I just cannot service such a polarizing topic at the moment.
@@thatgearguy That's unfortunate. Seems the extremists are coming out the woodwork on both sides of the spectrum
I just wish someone could summarize somewhere what it said.
@@seriouscat2231 I am uploading a longer version with some ideas for positive change tagged on later tonight. Same content with some extra added on.
I don’t drink poisonous alcohol, so clubs are no fun for me and I don’t go to them.
I drink alcohol but dont do drugs, I could never see how anyone could stand spending a night at a club if they werent on drugs Much rather go to pub or bar
In the service industry, you’re working while everyone else has off. If you could do it again, would you pick it different industry where you worked regular hours ,or are u happy with how it played out n feel u didn’t miss out?
I really enjoyed being in clubs and getting paid at the same time. It was a very sociable job. I met a few girls, had some great laughs and woke up with cash in my pocket and no hangover. I dont regret it.
👌
Have you ever done sports events? Boxing/footballl etc?
No, I did not as they always offered lower pay. They would say "but you get to watch the event".. You cant pay the bills with fond memories..
Young lads need to watch your videos instead of those red pill alpha-chad videos. You have much better advice and you present it in a manner much more in keeping with a pleasant and civil society!
Thanks! I am not a fan of "redpill".I am more of a "don't take any pill" sorta dude..
@@thatgearguy Same! Levelheadedness isn't something you come across on the internet very often these days 🤣
what about a middle-class swearing football-tasting group ? would you let them in ? :D
😅🤣 If they ever turn up I will probably direct them to Waitrose.
Did your video on everything going on at the minute get taken down or removed mate?
Hi. I took it down after getting bombarded with crazy comments, emails ect. I just didnt have the capacity to deal with them all. I might reupload with comments switched off.
Ahh man, don't diss the boy racers. I'm a ex boy racer 🤣
Even at 2x speed, you still talk so very slowly. I just haven't got enough time in the day.
Try Tik Tok.
@@thatgearguyI'm 40 pal.
Beware of drinks thrown in your face to blind you. Then the punches or tackles come next.
Nobody is doing that. You watched to many movies.
You have an interesting perceptive. Keep posting more videos 🦾
3:52 It”s funny you said, you can’t select entering people based on prejudice, ie. sexuality or looks. And yet they doing this all the time in nightclubs: beautiful chicks coming in on instant, ugly chicks and males have to wait in queue 😂😂😂😂
Show up looking like a wealthy guy with a couple hot chicks in tow and they'll roll out the red carpet for you!
Well its ok if its a white male!