The worst thing that's ever happened to me in over FORTY years of computer gaming was when one day either a Windows or NVidia driver update came out, possibly both, and bloody BF4's Punkbuster just decided that myself and several thousand other players that day were cheating, and banned everyone. There was no come-back, I ended up speaking to EA in the UK and the US, I even wrote a legal letter to Punkbuster's corporate offices (which they by law were supposed to respond to but just sent it back) - and got nothing, so my 1,200+ hour - had-every-single-award-I-could (including that dark camo and bow) was just gone. I've never been as angry in my life, in fact I've not bought another EA game since - I've still watched you play their stuff but I'm really reticent to buy 2142 just because of the extremely bad-taste they left in my mouth.
Can we talk about bipods? As someone who uses them a lot, I am constantly frustrated by how tricky and slow they are to deploy. Also the fact that a sizable percentage of deployable cover will actually block your bullets when it looks like you have a clear line of site. I also despise motion blur, and the way fast travel vehicles like the buggies in BF4 handle.
yeah they are a pain. i guess IRL they massively limit your scope of movement. bf4 is far more restrictive than bf5 for instance. but they are quirlky as hell to work and you often hit scenery even if its not in your sights. and please stop fucking 'kill 60 people prone with bipod BS' so fucking boring
@@thomaspisarek8678 ABSOLUTELY. The warzone/mw1019 way of doing vaulting over stuff and THE SATISFYING ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MOUNT YOUR GUN and shoot from a supported position like irl is a welcome addition nicely executed. I for one have it on "double tap ADS" -setting.
I wish there was a button to deploy or retract your bipod. When using an LMG or MMG, I always find it incredibly frustrating that I have to position it just the right way and wait for it to deploy.
I loved suppression, it really gave the support class something to do with their LMGs, and encouraged you to use LMGs in their real life role instead of as an AR with a giant magazine. Suppression was only a "problem" if your reaction to an ambush was to stand your ground and try to shoot it out. (Instead of supressing back and getting out of the kill zone) in B4 "It rewards bad players. blah blah blah" If you're getting supressed, you let someone get the drop on you. I'd say it punished players who rely on their aim to get themselves out of their bad decisions.
Couldn't agree more, its why i ended up playing games like Squad, Post Scriptum and Hell Let Loose so much. Position in those games is just as important as aim, you get caught out in the open, you die. Now while i don't think that would work in a BF game to that extreme, the current run, jump and gun gameplay is just boring to me now, its over done and not particularly engaging.
I totally agree with you on it gives the support class a purpose I love using support class and this is not Call OF Duty so if people hate this feature then go play Call OF Duty
Levelcap is an arcade type gamer. He only likes quick super kills and laser accuracy weapons with very little recoil. Anything that adds tactical or has visual effects he can't stand whatsoever.
I actually really liked the new vehicle mechanics added in V, glancing blows and the slower turret traversal made it more skilled imo, people had to think about what they did instead of speeding onto the middle of an obj and 360ing and shooting everyone, and glancing blows/ricochets meant I could park my tank at and angle on a corner and hold position while any oncoming tanks had a hard time destroying me, and meant that flanks were much more viable.
@@champer423 Yeah, that's exactly what I liked about it, kind of like a more arcade version of war thunder, it was easy to adjust to and felt natural when you come from playing WarThunder.
I mostly liked tank gameplay in BFV as well. Also not being able to instantly exit vehicles like you could in BF4 made them feel more like a team asset than a 1 player disposable item. Running a tank with a dedicated repair guy was really fun, that was some of my favorite BFV gameplay.
I honestly always liked the unsuppresed spotting in BF4. It was always my primary reason for using suppressors and I felt like I had a good reason to use it in contrast to for example BfV where the advantage you got was marginal. Overall I liked it and I don't think it was unbalanced.
@@IIDASHII Nah. Black Ops Cold War returned to show unsuppressed gun fire on the map. The skill ceiling in MW2019 and BOCW is night and day. I'm much better in Cold War because I have information on the minimap to flank enemies and avoid certain lanes.
Yes. It gives suppressors viability instead of being relatively useless as they were in recent games. It's also something that everyone has the ability to do so it's not like only certain classes are able to benefit.
LCG: "Let's talk about battlefield 3" Me: "Frag rounds in automatic shotguns." LCG: "I just hate how everything is blue" Me: "What the fu*k? Who cares?"
Makes it so that a fight between two equal tanks wouldn’t end with the person who fires first winning every time. I like it too, even if it felt a bit inconsistent
If you want realism in tank battles, it often actually did come down to who fired first. My main issue with BF5 is just how op some tanks were despite being garbage irl. *ahem German tanks*
@Nick Chambers, that was my problem with Japanese tanks, with the right upgrades you could two shot a sherman. And even though the German tanks were very good in real life, they're biggest advantage was numbers, they couldn't stand up to Soviet tanks one on one, but easily with Shermans and some British tanks
I love the turret speed for tanks. One of my most requested feature for BF2042. Man it was so stupid in BF3 and BF4 when a M1A1 or T90 just instant turning and killing you when you got spotted by the vehicle radar. TERRIBLE PLS give that back DICE
While I get why they added the system into BF5, I wish they just added 1 extra toggle option, something called like "lock 3rd person vehicle look speed to turret turn speed" or whatever. So basically the turret turn speed would still be set, meaning no instant 360's. But you just wouldn't be able to free aim quicker than the turret turns. I dislike having to wait for the turret to catch up to where I'm looking. I'd be quite happy only being able to look around as fast as it turns. And since it'd be a toggle option, then it won't hurt those who are used to how it is now
@@Grebbyy i actualy dont see the problem with this mechaniic. as a long time war thunder player i think its perfekt. it allows you to freely look around while the turret does its thing. its a perfekt balance of turretspeed and lookspeed. it actualy baffles me that the reaction seems to be so negativ. I just cant imagin that it would be enjoable to have a looked to a turret camera that turns at 10-20° a secound. i encourage yyou to try out war thunder and try to play with a locked camera
Omg I hated the turrets in bf3 and bf4. They're fine on console as you could imagine, but when I changed over to PC I could NEVER sneak up on a tank anymore to plant C4
True. People that are mad at that mechanic are just tank rushers that never leave their vehicle, never play infantry. It made tank gameplay a lot more about positioning.
Bf1's random bullet deviation was controversial, yes, but I don't think we can say it was universally hated. That feature made certain weapon types effective at certain ranges.
Yeah the semi auto weapons of that time period were way more accurate at medium to long range. It’s like he’s complaining the automatic guns in a WW1 had bad recoil and control.
I certainly hated it. There are better ways to relegate weapons to their designed engagement distances. The biggest problem by far was that snipers were incredibly OP due to having perfect accuracy and the “sweet spot” mechanic, and the bullet deviation on all other weapon types made it nearly impossible to return fire on a sniper from more than 30 ft. away.
I really enjoyed the turret mechanics in BFV. Got sick of tanks spinning their turrets around in a blink when your trying to sneak up on them in BF4. The behemoths were a great way to incorperate some of the mechanics of 1942 with OP vehicles like battleships/destroyers/B17s but in a limited way.
It was a one step forward two steps back solution The problem wasn't that they added turret traversal. I agree it improved the combat as infantry VS tanks. The issue is it made actually aiming your tank more difficult than it needed to be. The negative acceleration applied to the input to simulate turret traversal when in scope view is nuts. DICE had the right idea, but the implementation wasn't great.
I mean it's a middle ground, I was really surprised to see this working to be honest, I personally play a lot of war thunder and I felt right at home lol Still though if other players don't like it they should have some options to switch modes
To be fair, Tank shells VS Infantry in BF4 was kinda bad. You had to shoot under their nuts to get the kill. In most cases I could run head on at a Tank while jumping side to side and they'd miss WAY more shots than they should. No way you're doing that in BFV because splash damage actually hurts lol
Don’t get me wrong behemoths are cool, and certain ones could turn games around. But honestly they were just not good for so many reasons. They took away any skill, gave people free kills, a lot of them just turned into mobile respawns, didn’t really do much to help your team, and caused the whole lobby to just focus on this big vehicle for a quarter of each game
The ricochet shots was great, probably one of my favorite parts of BF1. Angling and positioning your tank was now a lot more satisfying and, frankly, more intuitive given the angles of armor, than "front good, side bad, rear worse" Your inability to discern between a flat-on surface and an angled one does not make that mechanic bad.
Damn right dude . It discourages camping too . You either get a suppressor and camp so you have to lead your shots more or you don't get a suppressor and actually move or die by a knife . I think people are forgetting all the sniper spam in battlefield 1
The problem with this is it really makes it far too powerful, being able to stay off the map and be able to come in from strange angles is completely nullified when I can just look at my map and stop a good flank because they didn't have it. There's no good system for suppressors
Well I think he falls into that group of players that wants another shooter with the idea that there's all these cool vehicles in game, but they should be more like something of a cosmetic thing or to just add some "war feeling" or ambiance. Another arcade shooter. Basically another Call of Duty, where small arms are king (even though that game already exists) and all the real weapons of war IRL is not added at all or like I said, just there to make it look like a real war. Personally I'd prefer if it is more like Squad or Warthunder where you can actually one shot a tank or plane if your aim is true. I'll give it a try with EA play, but I guess they lost players like me as a Battlefield fan and I highly doubt that this game will keep me interested for more than a week (if even).
Yeah, its kinda cringe how halve the things he mentioned were enjoyed by the community and even made the gameplay better. He wants a CoD style game, super arcade and with no hardship more than having a “better” gun that the foe
I was gonna say I don’t think it makes any sense that only one class can be suppressed or can suppress. That’s not how suppression works😂 this just seems a little nit picky at least on that one
Suppression is a great feature if done right. It should give the player tunnel vision (blurring edges, sharpening center) and add a noise filter to mimic the effect of adrenaline.
Absolutely! cause supression when it looks good and has a tiny, actually usable effect maybe but if it even SOUNDS feels LIKE IN RUST the psychological effetct is one of the most intense and its kindafun to be even in the receiving end not to mention to be distributing that horror :D
I actually completely agree, I think the blue tint was amazing. And to take it even further I think there was some psychology behind it, battlefield 3 was one of the few games I never got heated or angry at and I think the blue tint was soothing or calming to look at and had something to do with that.
they gave suppression instead of making machinegun hit harder. Going headon vs an MG from the front and winning because of gimmicky mechanics, slow bullet travel, when you had a bipod ... only advantages to run and gun.
Tank turret change from BF V was needed imo, in BF4 when u sneak up with C4 tank just turn the turret in 0.1s and kills u, in BFV u can play cat and mouse with a tank.
Suppression is fine and should be a thing in 2042 and forwards, BUT without the bullshit, random exponential bullet deviation it causes. Tunnel visioning, screen blur and shake is very nice for a suppression system, and it adds to the realism+arcade+sandbox= battlefield formula. But adding the bullet deviation just kills any competitiveness and isn't fun anymore. So keep suppression, but tone it down a notch
@@PlanesAndHoes bAtTleFiElD? rEaLisTiC? No, battlefield isn't a realistic franchise, but it does have realistic ELEMENTS, as I have clearly stated in the comment. Realism is not what defines battlefield, but the battlefield formula requires a decent sprinkle of realism here and there. If that weren't the case, there'd be no point in modelling accurate guns, decently accurate weapon nomenclature, bullet drop, bullet travel, vehicles, camouflage, attachments, the list goes on... That's the whole point of battlefield, to be a MIX of a realistic shooter with an arcadey one, in a giant sandbox pot. A sort of crossover of genres, and that's why we all like it.
@@ninjax4909 so go for the aspects that reward players for missing their shots in an FPS in the name of 'realism'. Ask yourself why that feature was removed from bf5 after getting reintroduced in bf1
12:10 I could tell u dont use tanks much cuz tanks were amazing in battlefield 5. Destroying and driving them are the best things about the game. That quick camera let's u see who is around you as the turret will realistically rotate at it's own speed to go look where your camera is.
@@DepthFromAbove well they can't exactly be 360 degrees of unsupported death like they could in previous games. There's one defining characteristic of WW2 tank turret traverse, and it was slow as fuck. BFV is actually much fasfer.
@@squashiejoshie200000 I don’t mind the more realistic aiming required. It’s the tanks themselves & the way they’re balanced. In BF4, a map like Golmund. It’s all tanks racing to each objective. In BF1, the Howitzer light tank was a beast, &could take flags all round. BFV light tanks are only good when equipped to take on infantry. &If you are using anything else, you won’t even get to flags before they’re already capped. It’s just not practical to use them. I’m not saying I don’t still go 60-0 with 30k points, I’m saying, it’s not fun. &a waste of time when I could’ve went 100-20 as a medic taking more. Which doesn’t make sense.
Absolutely. It’s hard to decide between this, behemoths or high altitude carpet bombers as to which was the worst part of bf1. But I will go for this because they offer nothing to the team and on most maps are untouchable unless a bomber can be bothered having a go. Often bragging about their high kill games while offering no support. Manage to graze one with a rocket. Yep, just move even further back into spawn. Please no spawn camping vehicles with the ability to fire half way across the map.
@@BattlefieldDad have you even heard of the Burton LMR? It's devastating to enemy bombers and light aircraft. As long as you're dumping resupply boxes just use the incendiary rounds and the enemy planes will have to find another route/plan. The Burton is a very underestimated weapon that literally melts aircraft and no one uses it to its best efficiency then complain about planes giving them the D all match. Also to add, if you want to stack shit loads of points against an airship use the Burton incendiary rounds and aim at the gun boxes on the underside of it. It's devastating.
@@Evili555 From a 'spectacle' point of view, behemoths were cool. But as a game mechanism not so much. I loved the spectacle of them but when you need to balance or lift the chances of one side then putting in a powerful vehicle, delivering death from afar isnt the most subtle solution. I get why people love bombers etc. Who doesnt like the idea of being able to wipe out loads of players from a million miles away. Just when you play mainly infantry it can be mildly annoying.
I loved the blurred screen suppression in BF3. It makes you want to take cover or run as opposed to stand and fight. Which is what your reaction to being shot should be.... Not take five bullets to the face and return fire.
Besides the blue tint BF3 also had extreme sun glare which made it really hard to see anything when the sun was in your face sometimes. That coupled with the suppression just added situations where the enemy had unfair advantages because you couldn't see or shoot straight. I love BF3 but after playing BF4 for so long it's hard to go back because of that.
All BF games since BF3 have something that makes visibility rough. I've never played BFV myself but I remember seeing Jackfrags BFV 'visibility experiment' video where he's laying down in front of enemies and they just run past him.
@@TreesOnTheMoon visibility sucks in BF5. Added with the wacky cosmetics, and you have a recipe for some bad hardcore experiences. To compensate for the fact that it was hard to differentiate between friends and enemies due to some cosmetic items, they basically stuck a huge label over a player's head. I used to enjoy playing on hardcore and turning off hud, but now it's even more of a liability...
The sun placement on Battlefield maps is some of the worst shit I've ever seen. Literally making maps one sided just because you can't see the enemy half the game.
@@falaflani4831 if you seriously think that suppression is rewarding players for missing their shots then you might be beyond help. Its not punishing a player for missing shots its punishing a player for getting shot at. It actually raises the skill ceiling because a player can't just instantly turn around and dome someone they have to reposition and flank to get a kill. If you think the only layer of skill should be fast reflexes and the ability to put shots on target then play counterstrike or some other equally simple game.
@@julienceaser4018 how does that raise the skill ceiling when the opponent is affected by the other player missing his shots? It severely nerfs snipers and fast reflex players. How is that raising the skill ceiling if great players get punished for the enemy missing his shots? I could just spray and pray knowing that the opponent's aim is affected giving an easy kill to my teammates. It lowers the personal skill level. So you want players with fast reflexes to be on par with you? And the CS is a simple game but the skill ceiling is way higher than any battlefield game
I liked the blue tint in bf3 and the suppression was great imo. I loved being on rush on metro and my team would be pinned down on the stairwell going to the next objectives and I’d just hipfire spray my m60 suppressing the shit outta the other team and pushing through with several other teammates following behind. Good times.
Exactly 💯! I feel like now days levelcap and most gamers just want a quick kill shooter with simple graphics. BF3 felt like a movie. Tactical but still easy to play, the perfect combination.
To be fair it WAS over powered as hell.. example. I used suppression upgrades with M60 on metro and ONLY hipfiring got me top score. 20k score from only supp assist, kill assist, and occasional accidental kills.
BFV’s Tank combat was my favourite. It increased the skill ceiling for tanks. I enjoyed ricochet-ing enemies and the turret speed made sure not just any clown could hop into a tank and solo an objective.
Yes,i play BF5 only in vehicles lately,tanks speed and turret turning speed,AP/HE rounds(also limited ammo) is most realistic thing that battlefield series ever had
I also enjoy the tank meta a lot. Did not understand what the issue was for LCap there. Also, I find infantry vs. tank and tank vs. infantry is fine in bf5 by now. Major pain is actually planes, once you upgrade them fully being a lot more powerful than initially.
Battlefield 4's perk system. Made no sense having arguably the best perk "Defense - Vest" be immediately usable when starting a game. It rendered a lot of the snipers weaker, and basically made the Phantom Bow worthless unless you were in Hardcore. Hope that doesn't make a return, personally.
I kinda miss the squad gadget system from 2142. They where pretty simple bonuses that only the squadleader could use, so if you wanted to benefit from them you'd have to play as a squad and follow the squadleader
I agree. Have those type of Cod style perks is just a no-no. Some of them er ok tho, having an extra mag etc., but perks that makes you able take to twice as many bullets or explosions or something, nah man, I’m not after ultra realism, but that is just not fun.
@@iXlnte Yeah the ones that gave you a faster defib charge, an extra couple of RPG rounds for engineer are fine, but things that change TTK or damage taken/damage output are simply wreck balance.
The reason for that is actually because of the server host who set it that way. And BF2042 will definitely have that option in Portal mode. So I guess it's useless to argue about it at this point.
Having to strategically shoot a tank as a player on foot was both realistic and cool. Tanks should not be that easy to destroy on foot without some strategy.
Its more of an elitist issue imo. They hate that lower skill players get "free" kills and have fun, because, you know, lower skill players should just be cannon fodders right.
Yeah there's plenty of counters to vehicles and gadgets. Imo they went overboard punishing everybody because 2% of people could snipe you with a tow missile from 500m
"Its more of an elitist issue imo. They hate that lower skill players get "free" kills and have fun, because, you know, lower skill players should just be cannon fodders right." this is an actual comment by an actual human being with supposedly a functional (I think) brain, everybody.
- no ticket/progress count in the server browser, hence joining games that are just ending - joining servers premade and ending up in another squad or team - too many grenade and explosive types, like incendiary, and underbarrel launchers - grenade spam chokes like in metro (tho I liked metro, but only no explosive :D) - revive trains. yep, bf3 :D - low customizable servers: after bf4 the feature-rich community servers and player communities were gone. E.g. no explo servers, custom rules, like sniper limits were great (also battlelog improved the community. Didn't like it from start, but loved it later on) - buggy server browser: in bf1 I could not find some servers, was kinda buggy
@@DepthFromAbove You'd usually end up joining the losing team though? Since that is the team more likely to have people who left early because they knew they'd lose.
While I would say levelcap is known for whining about obscure things (he wanted the 1 shot headshot mechanic removed from Siege), I have to say I agree with most of this list. Trivial things like the blue tint or suppression mechanic don't bother me, but certain things like OP air vehicles that you have 0 counters to as a ground soldier do annoy me. The lack of suppression in BFV annoy me too. There's no counters to a good sniper
BF3 medic train. On infantry maps you had just two teams of assault medics fighting each other and everytime you shot someone couple seconds later he pops back up revived.
@@bobmartin5259 And BF4 had a cooldown. You couldn't be revived again immediately after first revive. In Bf3 it was sometimes never ending loop, get killed, revived, killed, revived.
I loved the suppression. Even my COD Homies that watched me play thought the suppression feature was pretty cool!! If there’s hella ppl shooting at you, your going to squint, duck, or blind fire. I hope the suppression is on 2042
After playing a ton of Hell Let Loose I can't imagine playing a game without it now. A well concealed machine gunner in that game can physically pin down a squad if they're not paying attention, but all it takes is a well placed smoke grenade to counter. It works really well. You just have to un-program your gamer brain from thinking about machine guns like you do in single-player campaigns, where you just peek and headshot the gunner and you're done.
Loved the blue filter on BF3. It gave the game a unique look. For overpowered air vehicles: remember BFV, where planes could spawn before other soldiers, fly in to enemy base and carped bombed the entire enemy team? Boy was that annoying...
Bad features? Simple, what about the lack of a decent, working anticheat in BF1 and V, what about the removal of Rent A Server which helped deal with cheater problem somewhat, and the silliest of all, where did auto team balance and team switching go???
I take it that for you these are all bad things? If the sweet spot mechanic was for sniping only then i'd like it more. Didn't like the ridiculous resupply rings though, I'm not too sure what I'd do instead? land for re-supply, have a timer? haven't thought very long about an alternative to be honest.
@@rudidower yes they are all bad, I just don’t believe snipers should be 1 shot kills u less it’s a headshot in any circumstance as it takes the skill away from them. The way you fix the dog fighting in BFV is to also get rid of the attrition mechanic and just have rounds auto resupply on a timer like it was in BF3 and BF4.
I think the bf3 becon on tdm isn't bad. I liked it. Gave so much elevation to the map and if you want to get up there yourself. Well guess what. You also have that ability.
Maps weren't design with that mechanic in mind, It gave a huge advantage to the one doing it and it was pretty hard to counter, so no, it was an awful mechanic
@@multigohan2010 I disagree man, the beacons made it kinda fun. Verticality and that sandbox feel made TDM matches unique to battlefield as opposed to COD or something else, and I feel like there's a reason the devs never changed it.
@@gordonohallmhurain y'know I always just thought the kids that did this were shitheads who were trash at the game but this gives me some perspective. Thanks.
I like the player camo actually being effective and blending you into the scenery. Makes for really intense, "THE TREES ARE SHOOTING US!!!" situations.
Yes! I love the chaos behind battlefield and that’s why I play it for those crazy stories you get out of them of events you or I got totally wrecked or even overcame. I tend to carry explosives with me so if someone is behind a tricky cover I’ll just blow it up simple as that
Maybe if had a realism mode but if im just dicking about with my friends in the desert i really don't want to worry about the rocks somehow being medics with the mandragoon sniper or that pile of rubble on seige of Shanghai being a chinese man with a lmg.
they were fun but alot of maps werent balanced properly for behemoths. some they just dominated on, other they were completely useless (cough Monte Grappa airship cough)
The worst mechanic is the unlock-progression system for vehicles. If you don't GRIND all the tanks/choppers/planes/boats you want from Day 1 people will lose their mind if you even dare to think about using one once most folks has ranked up, making them inaccessible to players who aren't down to sacrifice day and night.
Especially with plane maneuverability. At a certain point you're screwed, because if you end up in a dogfight they will always get on your tail and you're done. No amount of skill can offset a superior turn radius. And the insult to injury is how far down the tech tree those unlocks sit.
suppression was a great mechanic and should make a return. I say regulate suppression to only LMGs, and turrets. It would actually make LMGs feel more like a tool, and would give squads a reason to have at-least one LMG user as a force multiplier. It also gives those getting suppressed a good idea of what weapon is firing at them and would force them to think of ways to eliminate the threat.
Getting tunnel vision on the battlefield is something that happens to PFCs, not the dudes who have been in firefights and gun battles. The suppression mechanic sucked, as if someone sends a round your way in real life and the soldiers just all of the sudden cannot see, move or shoot. Lame
@@Natedoc808 Videogames aren't real life. Bullets are much faster than they are in Battlefield and not every gun has tracer rounds like they seem to have in game. Wing suits don't work the way they do in game either. You can't fly around a tornado. Invoking "realism" in an arcade shooter is dumb.
@@tiddlywinks497 How? Thermal scopes just end up with people throwing smoke grenades everywhere meaning people that use every other sight in the game can't see. Spawning with the ucav wasn't fair. Being able to attack the enemy spawn at the start of the game with an explosive isn't skill.
No suppression at all would be another step of turning BF into your average CoD experience. Just change it but still keep it. Also never got what people had against the blue tint. Never bothered me even once.
@@s_for_short2400 because if you can run down a hallway with 5 guys with mgs firing at you while maintaining full accuracy then its like cod where there's no tactical use for anything and the game just devolves into everyone using the same meta guns. Why use an mg when its basically a weaker assault rifle with more ammo. Thanks to the way bf3/4/1 work every type of weapon has a purpose. Without all that stuff everyone uses the same meta assault rifle. Like cod
@@julienceaser4018 no good player is hindered by suppression. and dumb prone support players are the easiest targets. bf isnt a milsim and gun skill wins over roleplaying. wether there is supression or not, you will be outplayed by a guy that has better aim. Suppression is a nuiscence at best.
i never thoght the parachute spawns were a problem it was just a game mechanic and only usable on maps were you anyways could go on these spots bcs you could use an air vehicle to get there
I hated spawning in with a parachute most of the time, If wanted to spawn where I placed the beacon it had to be inside or I had to maneuver the parachute to try and land where I wanted
@@lemonke1709 Nah, that has campers, sniper rifles, automatic weapons, shotguns, grenades, moderate ttk, minimap spotting, killstreak vehicles, and progression. He'd hate it.
6:47 - Mini-map spotting: I actually enjoyed the fact that people would see someone on the mini-map if they were firing a weapon nearby without a silencer. This helped stop well-hidden campers from racking up endless kills. If my memory is correct, the only way out of it was to have a silencer attached. I really liked this feature. Otherwise, I would have liked the "directional" indicator to show up on the mini-map from the direction of the sound of the firing. That would have greatly helped.
Well, you just used a suppressor all the time in BF4. I mean, I didn't always use it but for tryhard flanking yes, because there was no real downsides (except missing out on the great gun audio). BF4 is just too much about looking at the minimap
The exotic requirements made me remember of the developer only weapons of battlefield 3, like the silenced magnum or the silenced spas-12. It was awesome to see the developers in a server to hunt them for the weapons and exclusive dog tags!
I remember hiding in that one tilted container in the middle on TDM with just a motion sensor and MAV topping the scoreboard just by spotting all game with 0 kills.
One of the most satisfying things to do was 870mcs with slugs and a 6x scope. Had snipers raging for days, it was to a point we left their spawn beacon undestroyed just to farm them.
@@Krymms Its all fun and games until someone throws a grenade in there My greedy ass would do what you do but kill people as well. Not exactly a smart idea when there's only one entrance to a very small area.
I agree with most of these, but the Phantom Project and DICE LA camo Easter eggs were some of my favorite memories of BF4. I’d love to see the return of awesome Easter eggs to the level of the phantom project again
wasnt against easter eggs but locking actual good stuff behind some really ominous and difficult task. i liked the skins and stuff they had in BF1 in the easter eggs. but you didnt have to do it to get a competitive advantage.
@@Grey9200 Exactly, the easter eggs were great. Hope they continue making them. Buy the rewards should only be cosmetics o stuff that doesnt give the player any competitive advantage
@@Grey9200 the phantom bow was by no means an “actually good” weapon. It was super cool looking, but very niche. Yeah the DICE LA camo having IR stealth was strange but oh well
I think 2042 should make the phantom program more tangible than last games. End of the world/civilization would be a great setting for the phantoms to finally emerge. Imagine a phantom specialist with a bunch of backstory
Never understood why assignments weren’t just things that you would be doing usually. Vehicle damage, Vehicle kills, objective time, objective captures, objectives contests, etc. I know some are like this, but from what I’ve noticed most aren’t.
Complaining about flanking and getting spotted in the mini map because you didn’t have a suppressor on…well maybe that’s the point of a suppressor and you should use it if that’s your play style. Instead of adapting you want them to nerf it out of the game.
@@autumn5592 I know but from a gameplay perspective with the less damage it would make no sense to use a silencer if you pop up on the map with it. But if not the trade is good, less damage for more sneaking.
2:55 "There was very little ways to out-skill a player who had better cover than you" Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. If you run around like a maniac in open field, ofc you're gonna lose to the guy who is behind cover. BECAUSE THATS HOW COVER WORKS
I think the thing he is trying to say is that it was literally impossible to shoot someone because the bullet paths were randomly picked out like a child throwing darts at a dart board so even if the enemy had 0 aim whatsoever, you'd still be unable to hit him because he had cover and the bullets like to randomly go everywhere but where you aim
Yeah suppression is the best feature to encourage any level of teamwork. Cover and move. Very simple. If you don’t like the feature, play a different game rather than whining for BF to be watered down
Character customisation in BF5. Since classes no longer had any distinctive appearance it took away the players ability to asses the risk since you couldn't tell what class you were up against.
@@johnroache6012 True and that was only colour pallet swaps so the character design and overall look stayed identifiable in BF4. In BF5 you could get killed by a medic in a gillie suit.
Visibility was absolutely trash on bf5. I remember having to specifically lower almost all my graphics settings just to see other people it's was atrocious.
I actually really liked the bad visibility, it made the game more hardcore and tbh I almost never had the problem of spotting people, it was harder but still possible, like in games like Rising Storm or Squad.
There's so many spotting mechanics and artificial character lighting in the last couple games that visibility is really not an issue. The made it easy to spot people.
I think the suppression feature was fun. Remember asking my friends to rain fire with LMG while other squad was trying to flank a choke zona. I think the ideal would be to maintain the feature and try to balance it
@@fairlanemuscle it made missing your shots worthwhile? This is an FPS. You already have a 100 mag and high damaging bullets but you wanna get rewarded for missing your bullets? This isn't squad or insurgency
@@malisa71 how is that worthwhile? Having teammates who can't hit their shots and the team is rewarded coz it messes with the aiming of the opponents? They could always drop ammo since they are support since that helps the team also. I wonder why they don't do that. Maybe coz they are bad players. We already have smokes, grenades, vehicles and gadgets to help clear chokepoints ffs
I mean. The dice la camo literally only takes 20-30 minutes to unlock. There are also calculators and even morse code scanners to help you. It only took me well 24 minutes. It's not that bad xD
That and it did pose a disadvantage on every other map besides final stand that didn’t have a pure white background. On that note though, the only thing I can really disagree with here was the unsuppressed spotting mechanic… I mean what would the point in suppressing your gun be if not to mask your identity? It carries a heavy bullet velocity, and in turn bullet drop, penalty to it, if that’s all it did and made your gun harder to hear, is that worth using one?
ngl i missed the final version of BF3 suppression, it made countering snipers viable and i think it contributed to the emphasis that BF3 had on positioning/movement/map knowledge. now it feels like a focus on arcadey movement can counter position or map knowledge
Me too, it always feel so bullshit when a fps makes your bullets spread everywhere when aiming, like i understand if its when you are hipfiring but when aiming, your bullets should go where youre fucking aiming
I actually love the unsupressed minimap spotting mechanic! It made supressors useful and interesting and it kind of makes sense that if you're loud, you are easily discovered. It also made sniper camping more difficult, which I see as a good thing.
I personally dig less reliance on HUD mechanics and more reliance on in game situational awareness. I see where you're coming from and do agree that it gives suppressors more of a viable role, but with DICE's amazing sound design, I think suppressors do still have a role even without the minimap spotting since if you can keep you ears open, it's much easier to hear someone coming up behind you unsuppressed than if they are suppressed. That's just me though.
For the visibility point, I’m wondering when DICE will realise that instead of putting time into suppression effects, cinematic lens flares, overly contrasty black levels, etc, it’d just be more cost effective to ask the players to just rub vaseline directly into their eyes at the beginning of each round
Badmins are definitely one of the top reasons I don't remember Battlefield 4 being a super enjoyable game for me - as soon as you were doing well, or actually got into a chopper or jet for once and killed the wrong person, you'd be kicked and it just ruined the entire experience because a salty kid couldn't take you killing them. Is why I've never been too sore about losing private servers in BF1 & BFV, but of course there is a proper middleground to be had, and avoid any auto-match system putting you into player run servers.
I hope they bring back Pin pulling.😶 Never used thermal optics or aim assist on PS4, because i wanted to get good without it. Though thermal, Suppression, AA on infantry is just a real thing in war and BF always felt like milsim but more casual. Same with the bombers and AAs. It's strange, I'm a noob and i never had a problem with Behemoths or the AC. If they annoyed me, i destroyed thee. The gunners on the airship, just snipe them until they are annoyed.
Easter egg weapons and camos with friends were one of the most fun things I've ever experienced in a battlefield game. I learned Morse code for the Peacekeeper, and have no regrets.
These are wonderful examples of DICE's difficulty in getting the balance between gameplay and realism. It seems that nobody is happy when they make a compromises.
i personally dont care when somethings unfair against me unless its extremely unfair, adds to the fun because its terrifying to go up against those things
@@mho... sometimes realism is what people want for good gameplay, depends on the person, like if something is realistically hard for me to kill and can realistically easily kill me its fun to go up against because its terrifying and presents a challenge, but of course i don’t represent everyone, and i do enjoy unrealistic too.
I feel like you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater in a few cases. Mortars, Minimap, thermals, suppression, ricochet and op air vehicles are some cases i would argue for keeping as is OR improving not removing. Good video though! Worth pointing out that i haven't used thermals since i initially unlocked them, i just think others should be able to if they choose.
There was also BF1's dense fog and the high frequency of it, and also the exaggerated glare when peering from windows and doorways in BF1, and BF1's sweet-spot mechanic used to identify enemy soldiers within a certain range that can be killed with a single sniper shot to the body, and replacing the player's ability to CHOOSE a skin with random battlepack unlocks which was the case in BF1. In any case, LC did a good job covering many of the annoying BF mechanics I remember from past years.
The "battlepack to unlock certain attachments" feature. So annoying that the only way to unlock certain attachments was to basically be premium to get those gold battlepacks and hope the attachments are in there. This was in bf4.
To be fair though 99% of the time the most effective attachments on almost all guns besides sniper rifles is red dot or holo sight, compensator and stubby grip. Sometimes the angled grip for certain guns but anything other than that, you are purposely putting yourself at a disadvantage
If you keep using a weapon in bf4 to 490 to 510 kills you will have gotten enough weapon specific grey battlepacks to unlock every attachment for that gun. You might get the attachment you want at the 100 kill mark or you may not get it until you hit 510 kills. Regardless you'll get them all if you just keep using the gun and go for the mastery dog tag
As far as I know, the special sights/scopes are hard, HARD-countered by flash/taclights. Literally blinding you from far away and forcing the flir/thermal user to hip fire for the entire engagement until you're dead, while the light-user can just leasurely take aim and pick you off. They removed the ridiculously OP blinding effect from the lights in the BF3 Beta, but they still work just as effectively when viewed through a special sight. That being said, I haven't played in quite a while and I might be remembering wrong.
I don’t think anyone has said this, but the one hit-ability of the snipers in battlefield one, how they had an effective range, and how it was completely thrown out the window by BFV and turning everyone into headshot hunters.
Random bullet deviation is probably the worst mechanic I've seen when it comes to gunplay. I loved the weapons of BF1, but bullet deviation was a turn off for around half the weapons. It doesn't reward marksmanship or good recoil control, it only leads to inconsistent gunfights.
Guns especially for the great wars arent made to speca gun are today thou. Have those guns were recycled wood and stamped sheet metal made for as little money as possible. Of course you gunna have skme deviation
@@mcgrath131 That doesn't really make things fun in a gameplay perspective. Not that guns need to be 100% accurate. SMGs and other automatic weapons should have bullet drop and slow bullet velocities to prevent M&K users from dominating servers, but random bullet deviation makes landing headshots inconsistent, it too doesn't reward recoil control as much. You know it was bad in BF1 when the devs literally told the community to aim for center mass, literally killing the incentive of headshots lol.
i belive it kinda replicates how bad the guns were at the time, if u have ever use full auto on a really old gun you know how awfull it is, i really dont mind it for BF1 having a more "trench warfare" aproach, if they were to add it on the new game i'd hate it with my life
After the 1st year Dice servers seems to disappear and you always have to play on custom ones with annoying rulesets were you can randomly get kicked for anything
The whole process for it was stupid. I could understand the assignments being tough and obscure, but the whole elevator and code easter egg bullshit was just ridiculous. The least they could have done was to make the bow a viable weapon...
i liked it too, although i was only a "viewer" and not someone who actually did something for it. It was nice to see the whole community working together. Also the Bow wasnt a really OP weapon so it wasnt a problem for anyone else. it was more a fun weapon. Giving it away after a few months made sense because "new" player werent able to unlock it because the low playernumbers.
@@christophv.3274 The thing is, it's not even fun as "fun weapon". The single way I *can* actually have fun with it is trolling with the poison arrows on Metro and Lockers. But it's painful to even do THAT because you have to get into those chokepoints, risk being mowed down instantly (which you're 100% helpless to defend against), and get a shot into a congested area. And the poison does hardly any damage, so it's not even viable as an area-denial tool. It's just horrible, the one area I've ever found it to actually be somewhat useful on Metro. On B escalators, spam poison at the ceiling right above the left and right corners, or just flood the bottom if defending from above. For the right hallway, just camp the locker doorway and spam 2 clouds to cover the entire hallway. You can eventually push back the entire flank if your team sees what you're doing and acts on it as a TEAM. Unfortunately, this strat doesn't seem effective anywhere else, even on Lockers...
@@Gibby34340 yeah but I dont see a Problem there? I think most Player had fun with the phantom programm itself and the bow wasnt that important. I understand that the bow isnt in your view even good enough for a "fun" waepon but I think thats not the purpose of such a weapon. Playing the Revolver with a Scope isnt good either but its still a fun thing to do. Maybe Trollweapon is the better discribtion
@@christophv.3274 Believe me, the players did NOT have fun with the phantom program. The whole dog tag search, then having to BEG players in a pub server to help you with it, while hoping to god the players on Hangar 21 just happened to have all the correct tags... Luckily we eventually got dedicated servers for all of this, but the whole thing was a complete joke of an "easter egg". Honestly, the badass Phantom camo was more gratifying than the actual bow, at it looks awesome on every single weapon. Also, revo with 3x scope isn't good? It's literally a sniper rifle you can use for every class, there's a reason so many people use it in place of the deagle or G18. It just difficult to use close up, but chances are you have an AR, carbine, or PDW, anyway...
What about leaving and entering vehicle animation in Bf V and Bf1. Bf1 animation was fine but the Bf V was long and annoying and people abused it at spawn locations.
12:53 At least with BF1 the Peacekeeper you can do by yourself, along with most the other secret stuff. They should probably stick with doing that going forward.
I agree that suppression was overdone in BF3, but it HAS to be back in BF2042 because it helps stop snipers from being insanely OP, especially now that maps are bigger than ever. I think it should be toned WAY down but still apply to each class, with sniper rifles being slightly more affected by it. I liked the slow regeneration of explosives from ammo crates in BF4, although I certainly didn't mind the way ammo crates worked in BF5 with a visible timer on the box helping players know when they could use it again. I agree that HAVING to use a suppressor sucks pretty bad. You shouldn't have to play with your eyes glued to the mini map to succeed, nor should you have to choose between being suppressed and having normal bullet velocities. Air vehicles were not super OP in BF5 compared to helicopters in BF3/4, so I'd like them to skew in that direction, or at least let infantry have good counters to them.
LevelCap: DICE PLS
DICE: I BLUE MYSELF
Bf4 guided shell on mbt. They added a soflam gadget to the gunner slot. U could ground all aircraft with it lol. Would be a fun squad up
(Best from memory) They lie to you GI, your helicopters fall like broken birds from the sky!
lol a an argument on twitter? never
another vid with the best features now plz
The worst thing that's ever happened to me in over FORTY years of computer gaming was when one day either a Windows or NVidia driver update came out, possibly both, and bloody BF4's Punkbuster just decided that myself and several thousand other players that day were cheating, and banned everyone. There was no come-back, I ended up speaking to EA in the UK and the US, I even wrote a legal letter to Punkbuster's corporate offices (which they by law were supposed to respond to but just sent it back) - and got nothing, so my 1,200+ hour - had-every-single-award-I-could (including that dark camo and bow) was just gone. I've never been as angry in my life, in fact I've not bought another EA game since - I've still watched you play their stuff but I'm really reticent to buy 2142 just because of the extremely bad-taste they left in my mouth.
imo suppression is a sick idea, i only want it to affect your sight by creating that tunnel vision view, none of that bullet deviation stuff
suppression has no place in an arcade or competitive fps. why do you get punished for the opposing player missing his shots?
@@falaflani4831 cause immersion, making you want to get a cover and not run everywhere like a monkey
but that's my point of view
@@falaflani4831 battlefield isn't competitive. It's sandbox. Its a good feature so support can have purpose
It absolutely has place in a battlefield game. If someone shoots live ammunition over your head I guarantee you it's going to effect you.
@@requiemagent3014 - Agreed. Personally I had no issue with it in BF3. Taught me to use cover and get the drop on the enemy first.
Can we talk about bipods? As someone who uses them a lot, I am constantly frustrated by how tricky and slow they are to deploy. Also the fact that a sizable percentage of deployable cover will actually block your bullets when it looks like you have a clear line of site. I also despise motion blur, and the way fast travel vehicles like the buggies in BF4 handle.
yeah they are a pain. i guess IRL they massively limit your scope of movement. bf4 is far more restrictive than bf5 for instance. but they are quirlky as hell to work and you often hit scenery even if its not in your sights. and please stop fucking 'kill 60 people prone with bipod BS' so fucking boring
Needs to have that COD:MW mounting. Love that system - intuitive and just works. But you also don't constantly lose to it, if you're on the other side
@@thomaspisarek8678 ABSOLUTELY. The warzone/mw1019 way of doing vaulting over stuff and THE SATISFYING ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MOUNT YOUR GUN and shoot from a supported position like irl is a welcome addition nicely executed. I for one have it on "double tap ADS" -setting.
I wish there was a button to deploy or retract your bipod. When using an LMG or MMG, I always find it incredibly frustrating that I have to position it just the right way and wait for it to deploy.
Yeah the fricken pwc from bf4 was horrific
I loved suppression, it really gave the support class something to do with their LMGs, and encouraged you to use LMGs in their real life role instead of as an AR with a giant magazine. Suppression was only a "problem" if your reaction to an ambush was to stand your ground and try to shoot it out. (Instead of supressing back and getting out of the kill zone)
in B4 "It rewards bad players. blah blah blah"
If you're getting supressed, you let someone get the drop on you. I'd say it punished players who rely on their aim to get themselves out of their bad decisions.
Boom, people who just run around with good aim but no forethought to their environment need to be punished and suppression is perfect for that.
@@disherace8099 as someone with bad aim I agree
Couldn't agree more, its why i ended up playing games like Squad, Post Scriptum and Hell Let Loose so much. Position in those games is just as important as aim, you get caught out in the open, you die. Now while i don't think that would work in a BF game to that extreme, the current run, jump and gun gameplay is just boring to me now, its over done and not particularly engaging.
I totally agree with you on it gives the support class a purpose I love using support class and this is not Call OF Duty so if people hate this feature then go play Call OF Duty
Levelcap is an arcade type gamer. He only likes quick super kills and laser accuracy weapons with very little recoil. Anything that adds tactical or has visual effects he can't stand whatsoever.
I actually really liked the new vehicle mechanics added in V, glancing blows and the slower turret traversal made it more skilled imo, people had to think about what they did instead of speeding onto the middle of an obj and 360ing and shooting everyone, and glancing blows/ricochets meant I could park my tank at and angle on a corner and hold position while any oncoming tanks had a hard time destroying me, and meant that flanks were much more viable.
Yeah it felt a little like War Thunder and that's the top tank gameplay game for me :D
@@champer423 Yeah, that's exactly what I liked about it, kind of like a more arcade version of war thunder, it was easy to adjust to and felt natural when you come from playing WarThunder.
It's realistic
I mostly liked tank gameplay in BFV as well. Also not being able to instantly exit vehicles like you could in BF4 made them feel more like a team asset than a 1 player disposable item. Running a tank with a dedicated repair guy was really fun, that was some of my favorite BFV gameplay.
@@champer423 war thinder is stupid
I honestly always liked the unsuppresed spotting in BF4. It was always my primary reason for using suppressors and I felt like I had a good reason to use it in contrast to for example BfV where the advantage you got was marginal. Overall I liked it and I don't think it was unbalanced.
It isn't unbalanced, but it still is too precise.
@@IIDASHII Nah. Black Ops Cold War returned to show unsuppressed gun fire on the map. The skill ceiling in MW2019 and BOCW is night and day. I'm much better in Cold War because I have information on the minimap to flank enemies and avoid certain lanes.
and, hilariously, way more frustrating in BFV! no hit markers with direction was tantamount to not knowing you were losing health at all. ridiculous
@@noobbotgaming2173 Although I absolutely despise Bocw for it's sbmm, I agree with the minimap thing
Yes. It gives suppressors viability instead of being relatively useless as they were in recent games. It's also something that everyone has the ability to do so it's not like only certain classes are able to benefit.
LCG: "Let's talk about battlefield 3"
Me: "Frag rounds in automatic shotguns."
LCG: "I just hate how everything is blue"
Me: "What the fu*k? Who cares?"
Fr there’s a lot of stuff in this vid I don’t agree with
I do, honestly. It’s one of the worst parts of BF3 IMO, as everything looks samey and boring.
everyone with eyes? everyone talks about how ugly bf3 looks compared the filterless beta
@@gavin-1237 whatever you say peanut gallery
@@HardTahc that's war
I like the ricochet mechanic. If they do it right, it makes Tank and AT battles a lot more interesting.
If I remember correctly, the damage modeling for tanks in BFV was a lot more complex at launch before it was eventually simplified as well.
Makes it so that a fight between two equal tanks wouldn’t end with the person who fires first winning every time. I like it too, even if it felt a bit inconsistent
Yeah, makes it more interesting then just lobbing shells at each other And hoping the engineer repairing you the entire time doesn't get sniped.
If you want realism in tank battles, it often actually did come down to who fired first. My main issue with BF5 is just how op some tanks were despite being garbage irl. *ahem German tanks*
@Nick Chambers, that was my problem with Japanese tanks, with the right upgrades you could two shot a sherman. And even though the German tanks were very good in real life, they're biggest advantage was numbers, they couldn't stand up to Soviet tanks one on one, but easily with Shermans and some British tanks
I love the turret speed for tanks. One of my most requested feature for BF2042.
Man it was so stupid in BF3 and BF4 when a M1A1 or T90 just instant turning and killing you when you got spotted by the vehicle radar. TERRIBLE
PLS give that back DICE
While I get why they added the system into BF5, I wish they just added 1 extra toggle option, something called like "lock 3rd person vehicle look speed to turret turn speed" or whatever. So basically the turret turn speed would still be set, meaning no instant 360's. But you just wouldn't be able to free aim quicker than the turret turns. I dislike having to wait for the turret to catch up to where I'm looking. I'd be quite happy only being able to look around as fast as it turns. And since it'd be a toggle option, then it won't hurt those who are used to how it is now
@@Grebbyy i actualy dont see the problem with this mechaniic. as a long time war thunder player i think its perfekt. it allows you to freely look around while the turret does its thing. its a perfekt balance of turretspeed and lookspeed. it actualy baffles me that the reaction seems to be so negativ.
I just cant imagin that it would be enjoable to have a looked to a turret camera that turns at 10-20° a secound. i encourage yyou to try out war thunder and try to play with a locked camera
Omg I hated the turrets in bf3 and bf4. They're fine on console as you could imagine, but when I changed over to PC I could NEVER sneak up on a tank anymore to plant C4
True. People that are mad at that mechanic are just tank rushers that never leave their vehicle, never play infantry. It made tank gameplay a lot more about positioning.
I hope it comes back!
Bf1's random bullet deviation was controversial, yes, but I don't think we can say it was universally hated. That feature made certain weapon types effective at certain ranges.
Yeah the semi auto weapons of that time period were way more accurate at medium to long range. It’s like he’s complaining the automatic guns in a WW1 had bad recoil and control.
They could’ve done that with damage falloff or recoil control or handling stats, making it so that your sights are lying to use just feels bad.
I certainly hated it. There are better ways to relegate weapons to their designed engagement distances. The biggest problem by far was that snipers were incredibly OP due to having perfect accuracy and the “sweet spot” mechanic, and the bullet deviation on all other weapon types made it nearly impossible to return fire on a sniper from more than 30 ft. away.
i hated it, honestly it took the satisfaction out of the game for me
he's just butthurt dont you see. its pretty obvs
Ah yes, a Deagle reloading is one of the worst features ever in Battlefield.
What u mean? like the deagle reload animation in bf4?
@@diiibasi think he means the thumbnail
@@Frankenstein_the_watcher yeh no idea why that thumbnail is used
@@Shadow_Play3r did it get you to click on the video?
@@barrymccaulkiner4232 Yes actually, it made me think "wtf is wrong with the deagle slide"
I really enjoyed the turret mechanics in BFV. Got sick of tanks spinning their turrets around in a blink when your trying to sneak up on them in BF4. The behemoths were a great way to incorperate some of the mechanics of 1942 with OP vehicles like battleships/destroyers/B17s but in a limited way.
It was a one step forward two steps back solution
The problem wasn't that they added turret traversal. I agree it improved the combat as infantry VS tanks. The issue is it made actually aiming your tank more difficult than it needed to be. The negative acceleration applied to the input to simulate turret traversal when in scope view is nuts.
DICE had the right idea, but the implementation wasn't great.
@@TechnicalGamingChannel I agree. Dice tends to fall flat on their face with implementation with most of their features.
I mean it's a middle ground, I was really surprised to see this working to be honest, I personally play a lot of war thunder and I felt right at home lol
Still though if other players don't like it they should have some options to switch modes
To be fair, Tank shells VS Infantry in BF4 was kinda bad. You had to shoot under their nuts to get the kill. In most cases I could run head on at a Tank while jumping side to side and they'd miss WAY more shots than they should. No way you're doing that in BFV because splash damage actually hurts lol
Don’t get me wrong behemoths are cool, and certain ones could turn games around. But honestly they were just not good for so many reasons. They took away any skill, gave people free kills, a lot of them just turned into mobile respawns, didn’t really do much to help your team, and caused the whole lobby to just focus on this big vehicle for a quarter of each game
The ricochet shots was great, probably one of my favorite parts of BF1. Angling and positioning your tank was now a lot more satisfying and, frankly, more intuitive given the angles of armor, than "front good, side bad, rear worse"
Your inability to discern between a flat-on surface and an angled one does not make that mechanic bad.
This. Same with the slowed tank gun movement. Felt like an actual heavy tank.
A lot of his points are like this. Kinda BS
Well, I actually liked the blue tint on bf3 maps, that's what gave them their own visual identity
Me 2, loved the whole aesthetic of the game with the blue and all of that.
@@condevampichoco7395 same here, idk why but it just made it look so damn badass
Did you just assume the game's visual identity?
Also made player visibility so much better, which is actually a point in the video about the newer titles.
I liked the blue tint as well...it gave a dark atmosphere to the game...
Also, showing up on the minimap without a suppressed weapon is fucking awesome. It makes people choose between attachments.
Yeah I loved that too. It actually gives you a reason to play with a suppressor.
Damn right dude . It discourages camping too . You either get a suppressor and camp so you have to lead your shots more or you don't get a suppressor and actually move or die by a knife . I think people are forgetting all the sniper spam in battlefield 1
The problem with this is it really makes it far too powerful, being able to stay off the map and be able to come in from strange angles is completely nullified when I can just look at my map and stop a good flank because they didn't have it. There's no good system for suppressors
No, good game design get people to use their ears to listen. The less info on the minimap the better.
@@Viljarms or just use a damn suppressor
Level wants everything nerfed lol
Well I think he falls into that group of players that wants another shooter with the idea that there's all these cool vehicles in game, but they should be more like something of a cosmetic thing or to just add some "war feeling" or ambiance. Another arcade shooter.
Basically another Call of Duty, where small arms are king (even though that game already exists) and all the real weapons of war IRL is not added at all or like I said, just there to make it look like a real war.
Personally I'd prefer if it is more like Squad or Warthunder where you can actually one shot a tank or plane if your aim is true. I'll give it a try with EA play, but I guess they lost players like me as a Battlefield fan and I highly doubt that this game will keep me interested for more than a week (if even).
For real! Complaining about mini maps 🤦🏼
Yeah, its kinda cringe how halve the things he mentioned were enjoyed by the community and even made the gameplay better.
He wants a CoD style game, super arcade and with no hardship more than having a “better” gun that the foe
@@sebastianaquino7454 your mom's kinda cringe
I was gonna say I don’t think it makes any sense that only one class can be suppressed or can suppress. That’s not how suppression works😂 this just seems a little nit picky at least on that one
I wish 5 man squads would return
what do you mean "return"?
@@TankYou90 if I’m not mistaken, 2042 has only 4-man squads. I wish it was 5-man
It would be neat if that's in bfportal.
I wish they would bring this back too.... 5 man squad was the shit they stepped on toes with that
Squads should be 2-3 people tops. &every squad should be full. Leader chosen by a leader points skill level mechanic. But that would be too efficient.
Suppression is a great feature if done right. It should give the player tunnel vision (blurring edges, sharpening center) and add a noise filter to mimic the effect of adrenaline.
Absolutely! cause supression when it looks good and has a tiny, actually usable effect maybe but if it even SOUNDS feels LIKE IN RUST the psychological effetct is one of the most intense and its kindafun to be even in the receiving end not to mention to be distributing that horror :D
For Gameplay purpose its an absolute garbage "Feature"
@@janebtar2167 their version is because it inhibits movement. It would be much better if it was visual and audio only.
@@MrMcbear in bf5 it was okay. All the other bfs that had suppression did it terrible. Makes aggressive sniping almost Impossible
@@janebtar2167 Sniping shouldn't be aggressive to begin with, but I guess everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Half these are good gameplay mechanics wtf. I actually enjoyed the suppression and blue tint in BF3..
You’re in the minority.
@@emilelerate6454 “yeah uh Officer, this guy likes the blue tint.”
I actually completely agree, I think the blue tint was amazing. And to take it even further I think there was some psychology behind it, battlefield 3 was one of the few games I never got heated or angry at and I think the blue tint was soothing or calming to look at and had something to do with that.
@@HollywoodHalla23 might be on to something , i tried harder too
they gave suppression instead of making machinegun hit harder. Going headon vs an MG from the front and winning because of gimmicky mechanics, slow bullet travel, when you had a bipod ... only advantages to run and gun.
Tank turret change from BF V was needed imo, in BF4 when u sneak up with C4 tank just turn the turret in 0.1s and kills u, in BFV u can play cat and mouse with a tank.
It’s also why tanks were more effective in bf4 and didn’t play so passive like they do in bfv
@@emilelerate6454 That's debateable. I found a lot of players in BF4 just sit in the spawn with the tank to try to snipe infantry with the heavy MG.
Suppression is fine and should be a thing in 2042 and forwards, BUT without the bullshit, random exponential bullet deviation it causes. Tunnel visioning, screen blur and shake is very nice for a suppression system, and it adds to the realism+arcade+sandbox= battlefield formula. But adding the bullet deviation just kills any competitiveness and isn't fun anymore. So keep suppression, but tone it down a notch
did you ever play BF3? Its like someone smeered vasaline all over your screen. Awful
Agreed : )
Battlefield? Realistic? Lol
@@PlanesAndHoes bAtTleFiElD? rEaLisTiC?
No, battlefield isn't a realistic franchise, but it does have realistic ELEMENTS, as I have clearly stated in the comment. Realism is not what defines battlefield, but the battlefield formula requires a decent sprinkle of realism here and there. If that weren't the case, there'd be no point in modelling accurate guns, decently accurate weapon nomenclature, bullet drop, bullet travel, vehicles, camouflage, attachments, the list goes on...
That's the whole point of battlefield, to be a MIX of a realistic shooter with an arcadey one, in a giant sandbox pot. A sort of crossover of genres, and that's why we all like it.
@@ninjax4909 so go for the aspects that reward players for missing their shots in an FPS in the name of 'realism'. Ask yourself why that feature was removed from bf5 after getting reintroduced in bf1
Minority here! Enjoyed the blue tint, enjoyed the suppression mechanics.
12:10 I could tell u dont use tanks much cuz tanks were amazing in battlefield 5. Destroying and driving them are the best things about the game. That quick camera let's u see who is around you as the turret will realistically rotate at it's own speed to go look where your camera is.
With 1000+ hours of tanking in bf5 i must say i agree. It ads some extra skill to do well because you cant do instant 360s anymore.
All vehicles are the worst they’ve ever been in BFV, especially tanks. Camping a hill is not skill.
@@DepthFromAbove that more sounds like a level design flaw, not a vehicle flaw. Try camping a hill on Rotterdam.
@@DepthFromAbove well they can't exactly be 360 degrees of unsupported death like they could in previous games. There's one defining characteristic of WW2 tank turret traverse, and it was slow as fuck. BFV is actually much fasfer.
@@squashiejoshie200000 I don’t mind the more realistic aiming required. It’s the tanks themselves & the way they’re balanced. In BF4, a map like Golmund. It’s all tanks racing to each objective. In BF1, the Howitzer light tank was a beast, &could take flags all round. BFV light tanks are only good when equipped to take on infantry. &If you are using anything else, you won’t even get to flags before they’re already capped. It’s just not practical to use them. I’m not saying I don’t still go 60-0 with 30k points, I’m saying, it’s not fun. &a waste of time when I could’ve went 100-20 as a medic taking more. Which doesn’t make sense.
BF1 Arty truck in Operations sitting in spawn to farm kills while the team loses w/o tank support
the worst part is that they ruin the offensive push, because they have no tanks to push forward
Absolutely. It’s hard to decide between this, behemoths or high altitude carpet bombers as to which was the worst part of bf1. But I will go for this because they offer nothing to the team and on most maps are untouchable unless a bomber can be bothered having a go. Often bragging about their high kill games while offering no support. Manage to graze one with a rocket. Yep, just move even further back into spawn.
Please no spawn camping vehicles with the ability to fire half way across the map.
@@BattlefieldDad bombers and behemoths were one of the best things apart bf1
@@BattlefieldDad have you even heard of the Burton LMR? It's devastating to enemy bombers and light aircraft. As long as you're dumping resupply boxes just use the incendiary rounds and the enemy planes will have to find another route/plan. The Burton is a very underestimated weapon that literally melts aircraft and no one uses it to its best efficiency then complain about planes giving them the D all match. Also to add, if you want to stack shit loads of points against an airship use the Burton incendiary rounds and aim at the gun boxes on the underside of it. It's devastating.
@@Evili555 From a 'spectacle' point of view, behemoths were cool. But as a game mechanism not so much. I loved the spectacle of them but when you need to balance or lift the chances of one side then putting in a powerful vehicle, delivering death from afar isnt the most subtle solution. I get why people love bombers etc. Who doesnt like the idea of being able to wipe out loads of players from a million miles away. Just when you play mainly infantry it can be mildly annoying.
I loved the blurred screen suppression in BF3. It makes you want to take cover or run as opposed to stand and fight. Which is what your reaction to being shot should be.... Not take five bullets to the face and return fire.
Besides the blue tint BF3 also had extreme sun glare which made it really hard to see anything when the sun was in your face sometimes. That coupled with the suppression just added situations where the enemy had unfair advantages because you couldn't see or shoot straight. I love BF3 but after playing BF4 for so long it's hard to go back because of that.
Shit I forgot about the sun glare! That shit was so fucking annoying
Also bloom in BF4: try to look outside when playing locker, say goodbye to your eyes...
All BF games since BF3 have something that makes visibility rough. I've never played BFV myself but I remember seeing Jackfrags BFV 'visibility experiment' video where he's laying down in front of enemies and they just run past him.
@@TreesOnTheMoon visibility sucks in BF5. Added with the wacky cosmetics, and you have a recipe for some bad hardcore experiences. To compensate for the fact that it was hard to differentiate between friends and enemies due to some cosmetic items, they basically stuck a huge label over a player's head. I used to enjoy playing on hardcore and turning off hud, but now it's even more of a liability...
The sun placement on Battlefield maps is some of the worst shit I've ever seen. Literally making maps one sided just because you can't see the enemy half the game.
I liked the battlefield 5 support suppression idea. That if you suppres an ememy they get spotted.
that's way better than getting punished for the enemy missing his shots
@@falaflani4831 if you seriously think that suppression is rewarding players for missing their shots then you might be beyond help. Its not punishing a player for missing shots its punishing a player for getting shot at. It actually raises the skill ceiling because a player can't just instantly turn around and dome someone they have to reposition and flank to get a kill. If you think the only layer of skill should be fast reflexes and the ability to put shots on target then play counterstrike or some other equally simple game.
Tbh the blurry screen is enough. I don’t know why they added all this extra shit
@@julienceaser4018 it doesnt raise the skill ceiling. It just requires a different skill
@@julienceaser4018 how does that raise the skill ceiling when the opponent is affected by the other player missing his shots? It severely nerfs snipers and fast reflex players. How is that raising the skill ceiling if great players get punished for the enemy missing his shots? I could just spray and pray knowing that the opponent's aim is affected giving an easy kill to my teammates. It lowers the personal skill level. So you want players with fast reflexes to be on par with you? And the CS is a simple game but the skill ceiling is way higher than any battlefield game
I liked the blue tint in bf3 and the suppression was great imo. I loved being on rush on metro and my team would be pinned down on the stairwell going to the next objectives and I’d just hipfire spray my m60 suppressing the shit outta the other team and pushing through with several other teammates following behind. Good times.
Exactly 💯! I feel like now days levelcap and most gamers just want a quick kill shooter with simple graphics. BF3 felt like a movie. Tactical but still easy to play, the perfect combination.
To be fair it WAS over powered as hell.. example. I used suppression upgrades with M60 on metro and ONLY hipfiring got me top score. 20k score from only supp assist, kill assist, and occasional accidental kills.
@@johnngrey1 it was pretty toxic at times. I felt immersed tho. Like it made me not want to run aimlessly across the map
@@johnngrey1 if you are suppressing half the enemy team you deserve a lot of points. killing people it's not more important than supporting the team
Despite its flaws, bf3 is still above and beyond my favorite.
Finally the whining Levelcap we all know and love is back!
Ikr 😂
fr fr tho
It's not whining if he's got a point.
@@lolk4530 Yeah. I was being facetious. But, you must admit, he was a little whiny.
@@lolk4530 On few and others are just opinions
BFV’s Tank combat was my favourite. It increased the skill ceiling for tanks. I enjoyed ricochet-ing enemies and the turret speed made sure not just any clown could hop into a tank and solo an objective.
Bfv tank infantry play was one of the worst though.
@Luyang Lin Movement speed in BFV was just way too fast. Trying to shoot a running target feels like trying to play Freeze Tag with The Flash!
Yes,i play BF5 only in vehicles lately,tanks speed and turret turning speed,AP/HE rounds(also limited ammo) is most realistic thing that battlefield series ever had
I also enjoy the tank meta a lot. Did not understand what the issue was for LCap there. Also, I find infantry vs. tank and tank vs. infantry is fine in bf5 by now. Major pain is actually planes, once you upgrade them fully being a lot more powerful than initially.
Battlefield 4's perk system. Made no sense having arguably the best perk "Defense - Vest" be immediately usable when starting a game. It rendered a lot of the snipers weaker, and basically made the Phantom Bow worthless unless you were in Hardcore. Hope that doesn't make a return, personally.
I kinda miss the squad gadget system from 2142. They where pretty simple bonuses that only the squadleader could use, so if you wanted to benefit from them you'd have to play as a squad and follow the squadleader
I agree. Have those type of Cod style perks is just a no-no. Some of them er ok tho, having an extra mag etc., but perks that makes you able take to twice as many bullets or explosions or something, nah man, I’m not after ultra realism, but that is just not fun.
@@iXlnte Yeah the ones that gave you a faster defib charge, an extra couple of RPG rounds for engineer are fine, but things that change TTK or damage taken/damage output are simply wreck balance.
@@RoganGunn Yep!☝🏼
well... with portal... it'll probably allow that to be disabled
instant/fast respawn - tanks, jets, helis coming back right after you destroyed one, totaly out of balance
If the server owner allows instant vehicle respawn, they're an obvious vehicle whore. You can't change my mind on this.
The reason for that is actually because of the server host who set it that way. And BF2042 will definitely have that option in Portal mode. So I guess it's useless to argue about it at this point.
PORTAL WILL BE THE GAME MODE FOR YOU 😜😂
@@CommanderLongJohn well, that's the closest experience to that without the economical mechanics
Having to strategically shoot a tank as a player on foot was both realistic and cool. Tanks should not be that easy to destroy on foot without some strategy.
The worst feature in BF3 was lack of a chat window on a victory screen.
that's not a "worst" feature, that's just a missed opportunity
damn i hope they add it in the future games... oh wait.
Big truuuuuuuueeee
I don’t care if its just nostalgia talking, I miss the blue tint of BF3.
I feel like i'm crazy because everyone seems to hate it. I really didn't like the look of bf4.
Honestly it made battlefield 3 feel different and unique vs the other fps’s at the time
@@pansenstich6932 Same, I like bf4 but the colour scheme was a bit off to me (I also STILL have issues seeing enemies to this day for some reason)
I liked the blue tint as well...it gave a dark atmosphere to the game which i really liked...
@@recklesflam1ngo968 visibility in BF4 is impressively bad
I really enjoyed suppression, as a support player it helped make the class somewhat competitive.
I feel a lot of the “overpowered” things like vehicles and gadgets sounds like a PC thing because I’ve never really seen it too powerful on console
Its more of an elitist issue imo. They hate that lower skill players get "free" kills and have fun, because, you know, lower skill players should just be cannon fodders right.
Yeah there's plenty of counters to vehicles and gadgets. Imo they went overboard punishing everybody because 2% of people could snipe you with a tow missile from 500m
"Its more of an elitist issue imo. They hate that lower skill players get "free" kills and have fun, because, you know, lower skill players should just be cannon fodders right."
this is an actual comment by an actual human being with supposedly a functional (I think) brain, everybody.
@@MirrorReaper yeah? And people seem to agree with what he said lol
@@MirrorReaper you feel attacked ?
- no ticket/progress count in the server browser, hence joining games that are just ending
- joining servers premade and ending up in another squad or team
- too many grenade and explosive types, like incendiary, and underbarrel launchers
- grenade spam chokes like in metro (tho I liked metro, but only no explosive :D)
- revive trains. yep, bf3 :D
- low customizable servers: after bf4 the feature-rich community servers and player communities were gone. E.g. no explo servers, custom rules, like sniper limits were great
(also battlelog improved the community. Didn't like it from start, but loved it later on)
- buggy server browser: in bf1 I could not find some servers, was kinda buggy
Not seeing scores sucks but the community would exploit it by only joining winning teams.
@@DepthFromAbove You'd usually end up joining the losing team though? Since that is the team more likely to have people who left early because they knew they'd lose.
“What makes Battlefield bad?”
Fun, apparently.
Honestly man, I feel like a lot of what he mentioned makes the game so much better.
@@brandonavila3327 true ...facts 🤔
While I would say levelcap is known for whining about obscure things (he wanted the 1 shot headshot mechanic removed from Siege), I have to say I agree with most of this list.
Trivial things like the blue tint or suppression mechanic don't bother me, but certain things like OP air vehicles that you have 0 counters to as a ground soldier do annoy me. The lack of suppression in BFV annoy me too. There's no counters to a good sniper
@@InevitableMayo suppression system existed in bfv but as far as i can tell all it does is dim your screen
@@InevitableMayo ¨There's no counters to a good sniper¨ just be a better sniper ;)
BF3 medic train. On infantry maps you had just two teams of assault medics fighting each other and everytime you shot someone couple seconds later he pops back up revived.
With 100% health, what makes it even worse than bf4.
@@bobmartin5259 And BF4 had a cooldown. You couldn't be revived again immediately after first revive. In Bf3 it was sometimes never ending loop, get killed, revived, killed, revived.
I loved the suppression. Even my COD Homies that watched me play thought the suppression feature was pretty cool!! If there’s hella ppl shooting at you, your going to squint, duck, or blind fire. I hope the suppression is on 2042
This is bait.
After playing a ton of Hell Let Loose I can't imagine playing a game without it now. A well concealed machine gunner in that game can physically pin down a squad if they're not paying attention, but all it takes is a well placed smoke grenade to counter. It works really well. You just have to un-program your gamer brain from thinking about machine guns like you do in single-player campaigns, where you just peek and headshot the gunner and you're done.
It gives LMGs and some other guns a purpose rather than them being super strong or slow as shit assault rifles
Loved the blue filter on BF3. It gave the game a unique look. For overpowered air vehicles: remember BFV, where planes could spawn before other soldiers, fly in to enemy base and carped bombed the entire enemy team? Boy was that annoying...
Welcome to classic Enlisted experience
Bad features? Simple, what about the lack of a decent, working anticheat in BF1 and V, what about the removal of Rent A Server which helped deal with cheater problem somewhat, and the silliest of all, where did auto team balance and team switching go???
Sweet Spot Mechanic, Spotting System (DORITO WARFARE), Resupply rings for pilots in BFV, Bombers in BF1 and 5, tanks and heli instant respawn times.
I take it that for you these are all bad things? If the sweet spot mechanic was for sniping only then i'd like it more. Didn't like the ridiculous resupply rings though, I'm not too sure what I'd do instead? land for re-supply, have a timer? haven't thought very long about an alternative to be honest.
@@rudidower yes they are all bad, I just don’t believe snipers should be 1 shot kills u less it’s a headshot in any circumstance as it takes the skill away from them. The way you fix the dog fighting in BFV is to also get rid of the attrition mechanic and just have rounds auto resupply on a timer like it was in BF3 and BF4.
Salty
looks like someone keeps dying to snipers
@@oliverwade9150 eh the sweet spot could be skillfull a bit if the player knows their sweet spot distance
Would be nice to see a the Battlefield series actually getting a decent anti-cheat for once.
Let's be honest, how many modern super popular shooters can actually keep up with anti cheat?
I think the bf3 becon on tdm isn't bad. I liked it. Gave so much elevation to the map and if you want to get up there yourself. Well guess what. You also have that ability.
Maps weren't design with that mechanic in mind, It gave a huge advantage to the one doing it and it was pretty hard to counter, so no, it was an awful mechanic
@@multigohan2010 with grapple hooks its not a problem anymore get over it
@@bigchungus7050 Why the fuck you bring 2042 in a comment about bf3? Even worse in a video about features from old battlefields
@@multigohan2010 I disagree man, the beacons made it kinda fun. Verticality and that sandbox feel made TDM matches unique to battlefield as opposed to COD or something else, and I feel like there's a reason the devs never changed it.
@@gordonohallmhurain y'know I always just thought the kids that did this were shitheads who were trash at the game but this gives me some perspective. Thanks.
I like the player camo actually being effective and blending you into the scenery. Makes for really intense, "THE TREES ARE SHOOTING US!!!" situations.
Yes! I love the chaos behind battlefield and that’s why I play it for those crazy stories you get out of them of events you or I got totally wrecked or even overcame. I tend to carry explosives with me so if someone is behind a tricky cover I’ll just blow it up simple as that
It’s fun until there’s the one guy with the lmg sitting in a bush all day
@@Cryhai With a flir and a bipod.
@@Krymms Which is why these realism elements sometimes need to be toned down a bit.
Maybe if had a realism mode but if im just dicking about with my friends in the desert i really don't want to worry about the rocks somehow being medics with the mandragoon sniper or that pile of rubble on seige of Shanghai being a chinese man with a lmg.
Personally I enjoyed the Behemoths for the immersion aspect
they were good a adding a second wind to unbalanced games aswell
they were fun but alot of maps werent balanced properly for behemoths. some they just dominated on, other they were completely useless (cough Monte Grappa airship cough)
I feel like behemoths helped keep people from leaving servers vs. in bf4, if a team had a massive lead, some people would just quit.
The worst mechanic is the unlock-progression system for vehicles. If you don't GRIND all the tanks/choppers/planes/boats you want from Day 1 people will lose their mind if you even dare to think about using one once most folks has ranked up, making them inaccessible to players who aren't down to sacrifice day and night.
lmao it's actually insane how by week 2 of a Battlefield game being out you'll fall behind the vehicle mains HARD 😂
you can just buy the vehicle pack to unlock wtf
Especially with plane maneuverability. At a certain point you're screwed, because if you end up in a dogfight they will always get on your tail and you're done. No amount of skill can offset a superior turn radius. And the insult to injury is how far down the tech tree those unlocks sit.
@@kevinh2345 Is that some Bfv shit? Doesn't exist in other Bf games. Your loss for playing that shit game.
@@CAL1MBO As far as I'm concerned BFV is and will always be Battlefield Vietnam... not that other thing.
suppression was a great mechanic and should make a return. I say regulate suppression to only LMGs, and turrets. It would actually make LMGs feel more like a tool, and would give squads a reason to have at-least one LMG user as a force multiplier. It also gives those getting suppressed a good idea of what weapon is firing at them and would force them to think of ways to eliminate the threat.
Yeah I don’t get why more people don’t get this
Getting tunnel vision on the battlefield is something that happens to PFCs, not the dudes who have been in firefights and gun battles. The suppression mechanic sucked, as if someone sends a round your way in real life and the soldiers just all of the sudden cannot see, move or shoot. Lame
@@Natedoc808 Videogames aren't real life. Bullets are much faster than they are in Battlefield and not every gun has tracer rounds like they seem to have in game. Wing suits don't work the way they do in game either. You can't fly around a tornado. Invoking "realism" in an arcade shooter is dumb.
@@Natedoc808 supression is realistic, in real life you just don't stay calm and still when someone is shooting at you
These were all the things that made battlefield fun for me, except the bullet deviation
Rds the best feature in battlefield. No more lmg shitters countersniping me crossmap.
Thermal sights and ucavs on instant spawn???
@@averyporter6745 Yep, and frag round shotguns
@@tiddlywinks497 How? Thermal scopes just end up with people throwing smoke grenades everywhere meaning people that use every other sight in the game can't see. Spawning with the ucav wasn't fair. Being able to attack the enemy spawn at the start of the game with an explosive isn't skill.
@@averyporter6745 I said 'for me', I just enjoyed the chaos of it, its an opinion. I never said what I enjoyed had skill, and I don't think it does.
No suppression at all would be another step of turning BF into your average CoD experience.
Just change it but still keep it.
Also never got what people had against the blue tint. Never bothered me even once.
how is removing supression turning bf into cod?
No one tell this guy that from 1942-BC2 that suppression wasn't a thing in Battlefield
@@s_for_short2400 because if you can run down a hallway with 5 guys with mgs firing at you while maintaining full accuracy then its like cod where there's no tactical use for anything and the game just devolves into everyone using the same meta guns. Why use an mg when its basically a weaker assault rifle with more ammo. Thanks to the way bf3/4/1 work every type of weapon has a purpose. Without all that stuff everyone uses the same meta assault rifle. Like cod
@@julienceaser4018 no good player is hindered by suppression. and dumb prone support players are the easiest targets. bf isnt a milsim and gun skill wins over roleplaying. wether there is supression or not, you will be outplayed by a guy that has better aim. Suppression is a nuiscence at best.
I hated the gray of BF4 way more than the blue enrichment of BF3
i never thoght the parachute spawns were a problem it was just a game mechanic and only usable on maps were you anyways could go on these spots bcs you could use an air vehicle to get there
@Patrick Höing yeah but only on maps that have a air vehicle in other modes
personally loved parachuting on campers and drive by bomb them.
In Tdm on Noshar canals people would use it to get on top of the cranes and there were no vehicles to get you up thete.
@@patmalloy3569 on conquest or rush there are vehicles to get there
I hated spawning in with a parachute most of the time, If wanted to spawn where I placed the beacon it had to be inside or I had to maneuver the parachute to try and land where I wanted
LevelCap's ideal Battlefield game: Verdun
His ideal bf game is cod
@@lemonke1709 Nah, that has campers, sniper rifles, automatic weapons, shotguns, grenades, moderate ttk, minimap spotting, killstreak vehicles, and progression. He'd hate it.
@@squashiejoshie200000 cod with destruction
6:47 - Mini-map spotting: I actually enjoyed the fact that people would see someone on the mini-map if they were firing a weapon nearby without a silencer. This helped stop well-hidden campers from racking up endless kills. If my memory is correct, the only way out of it was to have a silencer attached. I really liked this feature. Otherwise, I would have liked the "directional" indicator to show up on the mini-map from the direction of the sound of the firing. That would have greatly helped.
Well, you just used a suppressor all the time in BF4. I mean, I didn't always use it but for tryhard flanking yes, because there was no real downsides (except missing out on the great gun audio). BF4 is just too much about looking at the minimap
@@shredd5705 Mortar: so you like playing unsupressed do you?
Me: wel sometimes
Mortar: you sure?!!
Me: No sir ... supressed 24/7
I liked just listening and figuring out where the shots are from
The exotic requirements made me remember of the developer only weapons of battlefield 3, like the silenced magnum or the silenced spas-12. It was awesome to see the developers in a server to hunt them for the weapons and exclusive dog tags!
Every time dice made the game a little harder this guy be like “bad thing remove it”
Your statement is too abstract, harder doesn't always mean better, whatever you mean by this word lmfao
@@artmax1998 more realistic I assume. Suppression, blending in with the environment, armored vehicles acting like armored vehicles, etc
I'm okay with them removing parachutes spawns, as long as they enable it on "Noshahr Canals".
"Don't take away my Crane Sniping!.. My nostalgia!.."
I remember hiding in that one tilted container in the middle on TDM with just a motion sensor and MAV topping the scoreboard just by spotting all game with 0 kills.
One of the most satisfying things to do was 870mcs with slugs and a 6x scope. Had snipers raging for days, it was to a point we left their spawn beacon undestroyed just to farm them.
@@Krymms Its all fun and games until someone throws a grenade in there
My greedy ass would do what you do but kill people as well. Not exactly a smart idea when there's only one entrance to a very small area.
I agree with most of these, but the Phantom Project and DICE LA camo Easter eggs were some of my favorite memories of BF4. I’d love to see the return of awesome Easter eggs to the level of the phantom project again
wasnt against easter eggs but locking actual good stuff behind some really ominous and difficult task. i liked the skins and stuff they had in BF1 in the easter eggs. but you didnt have to do it to get a competitive advantage.
@@Grey9200 Exactly, the easter eggs were great. Hope they continue making them. Buy the rewards should only be cosmetics o stuff that doesnt give the player any competitive advantage
@@Grey9200 the phantom bow was by no means an “actually good” weapon. It was super cool looking, but very niche. Yeah the DICE LA camo having IR stealth was strange but oh well
I think 2042 should make the phantom program more tangible than last games. End of the world/civilization would be a great setting for the phantoms to finally emerge. Imagine a phantom specialist with a bunch of backstory
Never understood why assignments weren’t just things that you would be doing usually.
Vehicle damage, Vehicle kills, objective time, objective captures, objectives contests, etc.
I know some are like this, but from what I’ve noticed most aren’t.
Complaining about flanking and getting spotted in the mini map because you didn’t have a suppressor on…well maybe that’s the point of a suppressor and you should use it if that’s your play style. Instead of adapting you want them to nerf it out of the game.
Yeah without that where is the point in suppressors?
@@champer423 Your gun still makes sound.
@@autumn5592 I know but from a gameplay perspective with the less damage it would make no sense to use a silencer if you pop up on the map with it. But if not the trade is good, less damage for more sneaking.
The propaganda speakers were awesome! I remember them making me feel super inmersed in the map.
2:55 "There was very little ways to out-skill a player who had better cover than you" Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. If you run around like a maniac in open field, ofc you're gonna lose to the guy who is behind cover. BECAUSE THATS HOW COVER WORKS
I think the thing he is trying to say is that it was literally impossible to shoot someone because the bullet paths were randomly picked out like a child throwing darts at a dart board so even if the enemy had 0 aim whatsoever, you'd still be unable to hit him because he had cover and the bullets like to randomly go everywhere but where you aim
Yeah suppression is the best feature to encourage any level of teamwork. Cover and move. Very simple. If you don’t like the feature, play a different game rather than whining for BF to be watered down
Character customisation in BF5.
Since classes no longer had any distinctive appearance it took away the players ability to asses the risk since you couldn't tell what class you were up against.
BF4 has some customization, but at least it was more grounded
@@johnroache6012 True and that was only colour pallet swaps so the character design and overall look stayed identifiable in BF4. In BF5 you could get killed by a medic in a gillie suit.
Visibility was absolutely trash on bf5. I remember having to specifically lower almost all my graphics settings just to see other people it's was atrocious.
Absolutely agree with you! Worst visibility ever in series.
@@CommanderLongJohn better than bf1 gameplay
@@CommanderLongJohn whatever
@@CommanderLongJohn I've played 4 till v
I actually really liked the bad visibility, it made the game more hardcore and tbh I almost never had the problem of spotting people, it was harder but still possible, like in games like Rising Storm or Squad.
There's so many spotting mechanics and artificial character lighting in the last couple games that visibility is really not an issue. The made it easy to spot people.
I think the suppression feature was fun. Remember asking my friends to rain fire with LMG while other squad was trying to flank a choke zona. I think the ideal would be to maintain the feature and try to balance it
Agreed. Suppression is a thing.
It made LMGs worthwhile
@@fairlanemuscle I agree!!!
@@fairlanemuscle it made missing your shots worthwhile? This is an FPS. You already have a 100 mag and high damaging bullets but you wanna get rewarded for missing your bullets? This isn't squad or insurgency
@@falaflani4831 You should re-read the original comment. He clearly said why that was the case.
@@malisa71 how is that worthwhile? Having teammates who can't hit their shots and the team is rewarded coz it messes with the aiming of the opponents? They could always drop ammo since they are support since that helps the team also. I wonder why they don't do that. Maybe coz they are bad players. We already have smokes, grenades, vehicles and gadgets to help clear chokepoints ffs
I mean. The dice la camo literally only takes 20-30 minutes to unlock. There are also calculators and even morse code scanners to help you. It only took me well 24 minutes. It's not that bad xD
That and it did pose a disadvantage on every other map besides final stand that didn’t have a pure white background.
On that note though, the only thing I can really disagree with here was the unsuppressed spotting mechanic… I mean what would the point in suppressing your gun be if not to mask your identity? It carries a heavy bullet velocity, and in turn bullet drop, penalty to it, if that’s all it did and made your gun harder to hear, is that worth using one?
ngl i missed the final version of BF3 suppression, it made countering snipers viable and i think it contributed to the emphasis that BF3 had on positioning/movement/map knowledge. now it feels like a focus on arcadey movement can counter position or map knowledge
I've always hated how the bullets would spread when ads'ing
Me too, it always feel so bullshit when a fps makes your bullets spread everywhere when aiming, like i understand if its when you are hipfiring but when aiming, your bullets should go where youre fucking aiming
I actually love the unsupressed minimap spotting mechanic! It made supressors useful and interesting and it kind of makes sense that if you're loud, you are easily discovered. It also made sniper camping more difficult, which I see as a good thing.
was a BS mechanic that should never have existed. So I get punished for pulling off a good flank and coz the enemy team is also deaf???
I personally dig less reliance on HUD mechanics and more reliance on in game situational awareness. I see where you're coming from and do agree that it gives suppressors more of a viable role, but with DICE's amazing sound design, I think suppressors do still have a role even without the minimap spotting since if you can keep you ears open, it's much easier to hear someone coming up behind you unsuppressed than if they are suppressed. That's just me though.
@@falaflani4831 yes, for using an unsuppressed weapon.
@@falaflani4831 Yup thts how suppressors work in any other game
@@Dopeman445 which other game? COD?
For the visibility point, I’m wondering when DICE will realise that instead of putting time into suppression effects, cinematic lens flares, overly contrasty black levels, etc, it’d just be more cost effective to ask the players to just rub vaseline directly into their eyes at the beginning of each round
Badmins are definitely one of the top reasons I don't remember Battlefield 4 being a super enjoyable game for me - as soon as you were doing well, or actually got into a chopper or jet for once and killed the wrong person, you'd be kicked and it just ruined the entire experience because a salty kid couldn't take you killing them.
Is why I've never been too sore about losing private servers in BF1 & BFV, but of course there is a proper middleground to be had, and avoid any auto-match system putting you into player run servers.
Wut u gon do about it?
and why didn't you just rent a server yourself?
I hope they bring back Pin pulling.😶
Never used thermal optics or aim assist on PS4, because i wanted to get good without it. Though thermal, Suppression, AA on infantry is just a real thing in war and BF always felt like milsim but more casual. Same with the bombers and AAs.
It's strange, I'm a noob and i never had a problem with Behemoths or the AC. If they annoyed me, i destroyed thee. The gunners on the airship, just snipe them until they are annoyed.
Easter egg weapons and camos with friends were one of the most fun things I've ever experienced in a battlefield game. I learned Morse code for the Peacekeeper, and have no regrets.
Neither do I, fun as fuck
These are wonderful examples of DICE's difficulty in getting the balance between gameplay and realism. It seems that nobody is happy when they make a compromises.
i personally dont care when somethings unfair against me unless its extremely unfair, adds to the fun because its terrifying to go up against those things
realism is overrated, when it interferes with good gameplay!
@@mho... sometimes realism is what people want for good gameplay, depends on the person, like if something is realistically hard for me to kill and can realistically easily kill me its fun to go up against because its terrifying and presents a challenge, but of course i don’t represent everyone, and i do enjoy unrealistic too.
I feel like you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater in a few cases. Mortars, Minimap, thermals, suppression, ricochet and op air vehicles are some cases i would argue for keeping as is OR improving not removing. Good video though!
Worth pointing out that i haven't used thermals since i initially unlocked them, i just think others should be able to if they choose.
Minimap - No please, keep the information in game. I don't want to scan for enemies in a corner minimap.
There was also BF1's dense fog and the high frequency of it, and also the exaggerated glare when peering from windows and doorways in BF1, and BF1's sweet-spot mechanic used to identify enemy soldiers within a certain range that can be killed with a single sniper shot to the body, and replacing the player's ability to CHOOSE a skin with random battlepack unlocks which was the case in BF1. In any case, LC did a good job covering many of the annoying BF mechanics I remember from past years.
The "battlepack to unlock certain attachments" feature. So annoying that the only way to unlock certain attachments was to basically be premium to get those gold battlepacks and hope the attachments are in there. This was in bf4.
Yesssss I’ve been trying to get FLIR on my RFB but I can’t pull it
To be fair though 99% of the time the most effective attachments on almost all guns besides sniper rifles is red dot or holo sight, compensator and stubby grip. Sometimes the angled grip for certain guns but anything other than that, you are purposely putting yourself at a disadvantage
If you keep using a weapon in bf4 to 490 to 510 kills you will have gotten enough weapon specific grey battlepacks to unlock every attachment for that gun. You might get the attachment you want at the 100 kill mark or you may not get it until you hit 510 kills. Regardless you'll get them all if you just keep using the gun and go for the mastery dog tag
You missed the zouzou, uzou, and other glitchy jump/movement mechanics that wouldmake players invunerable or throw off their hitboxes.
As far as I know, the special sights/scopes are hard, HARD-countered by flash/taclights. Literally blinding you from far away and forcing the flir/thermal user to hip fire for the entire engagement until you're dead, while the light-user can just leasurely take aim and pick you off. They removed the ridiculously OP blinding effect from the lights in the BF3 Beta, but they still work just as effectively when viewed through a special sight.
That being said, I haven't played in quite a while and I might be remembering wrong.
OP 3d spotting ? like you spammed Q in bf 4 and spot a fella 400000000 meters away
Ha. Or the auto spotter attachment that you could unlock for your gun as long as you looked down the sights. Didn't even have to see them.
@@TheoriginalBMT Then combo it with a flir and you don't even need a brain
I have to disagree with the Thermal Optic take... Any laser or flashlight on a weapon blinds the absolute shit out of you. Easily counterable...
No one will mention how you had to open a browser in bf3 to join a game? It was one of the most infuriating things I encountered.
Battlefields worst features: bf1 medic squadmates
Nay, it player who quickly pressed the die to the respond map option
People don't like long respawn timers or getting killed from careless medics who'll give 20 hp revives, so they'll skip revives.
Not bf1,
Just medic players in general
@@GrimReaper-lo1ut I just had a bunch of bad experiences in bf1(my favorite battlefield) with medics, comical usually
“Your rich leaders grow richer as you die in the swamp G.I”
I don’t think anyone has said this, but the one hit-ability of the snipers in battlefield one, how they had an effective range, and how it was completely thrown out the window by BFV and turning everyone into headshot hunters.
I loved bf3 premium assignments. The grind to unlock a weapon was so enjoyable
I wish they could bring that back. That was such an enjoyable thing to do. I hope 2042 goes back to that idea
All except the l85a2 one. I still haven't unlocked it in 2021
Random bullet deviation is probably the worst mechanic I've seen when it comes to gunplay. I loved the weapons of BF1, but bullet deviation was a turn off for around half the weapons. It doesn't reward marksmanship or good recoil control, it only leads to inconsistent gunfights.
Guns especially for the great wars arent made to speca gun are today thou. Have those guns were recycled wood and stamped sheet metal made for as little money as possible. Of course you gunna have skme deviation
Bullet deviation made firing the BAR torture in that game. I hated it and it was so unintuitive.
I actually like it
@@mcgrath131 That doesn't really make things fun in a gameplay perspective. Not that guns need to be 100% accurate. SMGs and other automatic weapons should have bullet drop and slow bullet velocities to prevent M&K users from dominating servers, but random bullet deviation makes landing headshots inconsistent, it too doesn't reward recoil control as much. You know it was bad in BF1 when the devs literally told the community to aim for center mass, literally killing the incentive of headshots lol.
i belive it kinda replicates how bad the guns were at the time, if u have ever use full auto on a really old gun you know how awfull it is, i really dont mind it for BF1 having a more "trench warfare" aproach, if they were to add it on the new game i'd hate it with my life
After the 1st year Dice servers seems to disappear and you always have to play on custom ones with annoying rulesets were you can randomly get kicked for anything
I love how you never brought up Hardline,
Because it’s perfect ;)
Hardline doesn’t deserve the name Battlefield in the title
@@travisledford4632 it's great, always was
The fact we can turn off almost everything we don’t like in 2042 🙌.... praying the gunplay is on point!
Bf5 movement and bf4 gunplay would be amazing
I hope they keep ricochets in BF2042 (maybe fine tune it), as it adds some skill to both using/fighting tanks.
Ah yes. My least favorite battlefield feature. The chamber of the firearm.
The phantom program was AMAZING! I loved the grind and was pissed when they just gave the bow away a few months later
The whole process for it was stupid. I could understand the assignments being tough and obscure, but the whole elevator and code easter egg bullshit was just ridiculous. The least they could have done was to make the bow a viable weapon...
i liked it too, although i was only a "viewer" and not someone who actually did something for it. It was nice to see the whole community working together. Also the Bow wasnt a really OP weapon so it wasnt a problem for anyone else. it was more a fun weapon. Giving it away after a few months made sense because "new" player werent able to unlock it because the low playernumbers.
@@christophv.3274 The thing is, it's not even fun as "fun weapon". The single way I *can* actually have fun with it is trolling with the poison arrows on Metro and Lockers. But it's painful to even do THAT because you have to get into those chokepoints, risk being mowed down instantly (which you're 100% helpless to defend against), and get a shot into a congested area. And the poison does hardly any damage, so it's not even viable as an area-denial tool. It's just horrible, the one area I've ever found it to actually be somewhat useful on Metro.
On B escalators, spam poison at the ceiling right above the left and right corners, or just flood the bottom if defending from above. For the right hallway, just camp the locker doorway and spam 2 clouds to cover the entire hallway. You can eventually push back the entire flank if your team sees what you're doing and acts on it as a TEAM. Unfortunately, this strat doesn't seem effective anywhere else, even on Lockers...
@@Gibby34340 yeah but I dont see a Problem there? I think most Player had fun with the phantom programm itself and the bow wasnt that important. I understand that the bow isnt in your view even good enough for a "fun" waepon but I think thats not the purpose of such a weapon. Playing the Revolver with a Scope isnt good either but its still a fun thing to do. Maybe Trollweapon is the better discribtion
@@christophv.3274 Believe me, the players did NOT have fun with the phantom program. The whole dog tag search, then having to BEG players in a pub server to help you with it, while hoping to god the players on Hangar 21 just happened to have all the correct tags...
Luckily we eventually got dedicated servers for all of this, but the whole thing was a complete joke of an "easter egg". Honestly, the badass Phantom camo was more gratifying than the actual bow, at it looks awesome on every single weapon.
Also, revo with 3x scope isn't good? It's literally a sniper rifle you can use for every class, there's a reason so many people use it in place of the deagle or G18. It just difficult to use close up, but chances are you have an AR, carbine, or PDW, anyway...
You see it as gameplay flaws, I see it as real life tactics.
What about leaving and entering vehicle animation in Bf V and Bf1. Bf1 animation was fine but the Bf V was long and annoying and people abused it at spawn locations.
yeah all the extra animations they added starting in BF1 and doubling down on in BFV didn't make those games better.
For me it made it better, much more immersive. Same for the hard visibility. Less competitive and more realistic / enjoyable.
12:53 At least with BF1 the Peacekeeper you can do by yourself, along with most the other secret stuff. They should probably stick with doing that going forward.
My god that thing took me over a week to unlock lmao
@@Darkhalo314 it was fun tbh
Agreed
I agree that suppression was overdone in BF3, but it HAS to be back in BF2042 because it helps stop snipers from being insanely OP, especially now that maps are bigger than ever. I think it should be toned WAY down but still apply to each class, with sniper rifles being slightly more affected by it.
I liked the slow regeneration of explosives from ammo crates in BF4, although I certainly didn't mind the way ammo crates worked in BF5 with a visible timer on the box helping players know when they could use it again.
I agree that HAVING to use a suppressor sucks pretty bad. You shouldn't have to play with your eyes glued to the mini map to succeed, nor should you have to choose between being suppressed and having normal bullet velocities.
Air vehicles were not super OP in BF5 compared to helicopters in BF3/4, so I'd like them to skew in that direction, or at least let infantry have good counters to them.