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  • @MrPimpifyer
    @MrPimpifyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    Ryan Gomez story time is the sole reason I subbed

    • @ZydrateZaro
      @ZydrateZaro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Combonation same

    • @Morghast
      @Morghast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thirdsies on that. Ive been watching tons of old vids too but he is much more engaging. Shout out to all the Lore guys tho, this is a Group Effort.

    • @Ronin_XS
      @Ronin_XS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same dude! Same 😆

    • @maixaule
      @maixaule 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here!

    • @YourCrazyOverlord
      @YourCrazyOverlord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ryan is all I'm ever here for. Bless his bald little head

  • @christophercyr1460
    @christophercyr1460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Flbthp and 99 islands is op. Super consistent draws, really reliable deck, very cheap too!

  • @Skywarp2099
    @Skywarp2099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    For people wanting something more "formulaic" when creating their deck, an easy way to approach deck building and assist with breaking the deck down into smaller chunks is to follow these flexible guidelines.
    ~ 37 lands
    ~ 10 forms of flexible removal (this includes board wipes try to find 2 , 3, or 4)
    1 piece of graveyard hate
    ~ 10 or more forms of card drawing (focus on cards that have continuous or repeatable effects)
    10 - 15 forms of Ramp: this can be a mix of mana rocks, enchantments, and Cultivate effects.
    Dedicate the remainder to your strategy.
    I want to point out that sometimes the cards for your strategy may overlap with fulfilling the needs of the above guidelines. If this happens, GREAT! Take advantage of every opportunity you can to maximize the efficiency of your card slots. You only have 99 in your deck to work with, each of them must serve a very valuable purpose. I hope this helps anyone looking to improve or start, or perhaps serve as a method to breakdown the daunting task of creating a new deck. :)
    Best Regards

    • @Zodairk
      @Zodairk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      For casual play I use what I call 40 30 30
      40% lands
      30% good cards, ramp card draw etc normally comes from here
      30% theme this is for making your theme work
      It's a nice template but that's all it is

    • @jgtogi6839
      @jgtogi6839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You only need 10 card drawing cards if 10-15 useless ramp cards. This would work in a blue/green deck but that isn't most decks. Ramping mana is only viable early game so having 15 cards of ramp means you are drawing more dead cards late game. You also run into the fact that draw is usually a blue mechanic and ramp is usually a green mechanic. Maybe if you replaced card drawing and ramp with mechanics in other colors like say providing 10-15 burn/mass burn (red mechanic) and 10 discard (black mechanic) it could work.

    • @Skywarp2099
      @Skywarp2099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jgtogi6839 This is a "framework." I did mention that these were guidelines and not hard "rules" for deck building. You might also notice the tilde symbol next to my numbers. That is shorthand for "approximately," meaning an approximation close to but not necessarily equal to the value. People can deviate from those values based upon experimentation.
      I cannot take credit for these guidelines, however, but I DO use them and I DO share them when I consult with newer players to EDH because it serves as a starting point. Tomer from MTGGoldfish was the person who came up with these figures, and he's not a terrible deck builder. I don't always agree with his choices, but his guidelines are a solid STARTING POINT.
      I wasn't TELLING people how to make a cEDH deck, either. Something I think you misunderstood. I was laying out a foundation, a way to tackle a large, sometimes overwhelming, problem and place it into more manageable pieces.
      You may or may not be correct, but the argument you're making is entirely circumstantial and largely irrelevant, when placed in context. My advice wasn't for individuals such as yourself because you're past the point where you need the assistance. Let others find this information useful, and let it go.

    • @kk_33
      @kk_33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      jg togi Assuming you’re not playing ultra competitive EDH, which aims to combo off by turn 3 or 4, Ramp is the most important aspect of EDH. With multiple players, 40 life totals and higher chance of board wipes, EDH games tend to go long, which means regardless of the colours you’re running, you need to be able to keep up when turn 7-10 come around.
      Green and blue may be the BEST options for ramp and draw respectively, each colour in the colour pie has its options for each. And artifacts and other colourless cards exist to make up for what some colours lack. Mana Rocks for example are extremely common in almost all EDH decks, as they are valuable ramp tools that fit in almost any strategy.
      My baseline for any EDH deck is 10 ramp, 10 card draw, 6-7 single target removal and 3-4 board wipes. Keep in mind this doesn’t mean you need exactly this number of individual cards to fill these roles, cards can overlap. For example, a card like Treasure Map May fill multiple roles. Early game it only helps fix the top of the deck, but in time it can add an extra land be two treasure tokens which act as ramp. The land also can sac the tokens to draw so it adds value as a card draw engine as well, especially in certain decks which have other means of creating tokens. I run a Mardu deck with Smothering Tithe, Pitiless Plunderer, Captain Lannery Storm, and revel in riches, all of which ramp make Treasure map a card draw engine, and this deck runs neither Green or Blue.

    • @Narabedla4
      @Narabedla4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jgtogi6839 no. *every* deck needs ramp.
      I don't care what color you run, you should run sol ring and the color signets (or the color reducers in mono color, or the pain signets) at the *very* least
      If you don't have any ramp, your deck is just waaaay too slow.
      Also, card draw should be renamed to card advantage and yes basically every deck needs that as well, since you don't wanna sit there topdecking while your opponents play 2-3 spells a turn with a card draw engine.
      Card drawing and Ramping are not color restrictive.
      Oh boy, yeah let's run lavaspike in EDH because we are red, oh no wait, that would be terrible.
      Same for targetted discard in black. (like thoughtseize)
      If you sit there playing Boros and don't play ramp or card draw, because well, you are boros, then you are just playing a bad deck.

  • @planpunnarit
    @planpunnarit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    14:30
    1. Find a 5 color commander
    2. Ask players for all cards they hate
    3. Put all cards from no.2 into a deck
    4. let’s destroy friendship.

    • @supremeverdict359
      @supremeverdict359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Plan Punnarit Eldrazi Annilators + Extra Turn 😈

    • @felixseifert1733
      @felixseifert1733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      actually, this is how a friend of mine built one of his decks, he picked child of alara as his commander, took all his planeswalkers and big fat creatures throw them on a pile and that shit worked and kicked our asses, and he played his commander like once in 200 games...

    • @brittanynguyen3794
      @brittanynguyen3794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So who here hated consuming aberration?

  • @Cyberium
    @Cyberium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    One thing I love about commander is how each deck represents a person’s psyche/personality, how s/he wants to express oneself. Even if a person builds a deck for combo win, that speaks for oneself.

    • @Morghast
      @Morghast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is why MtG is the fuckin best. its meta af

    • @d.robinson6262
      @d.robinson6262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have a lil story of how I got into MTG last November against my will. A year of enjoying it later I'm polishing my golgari deck with Gorgons and slivers. Next I want a colorless deck, and probably Orzhov/angels/demons after that.

    • @Darksky1001able
      @Darksky1001able 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My main one is an Esper control deck. Sen triplets is my commander and the deck works around stealing others spells or denying resources.

    • @elementaldemon4624
      @elementaldemon4624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty new to magic and my friends got me into commander. Picked up a cheap prebuilt called sneak attack. The commander makes my oponents mill cards from damage from rogues and other cards take advantage of the resulting graveyards to harass them even more. I love it

  • @cossakrose
    @cossakrose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    False: Commander is NOT 100 cards.
    *It's Sol Ring,* and 99 other cards.

    • @calebbilling4984
      @calebbilling4984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Anybody who cannot into Sol Ring cannot call themselves a Commander Player. It's the community's most basic right of passage.

    • @captaincroissandwich6950
      @captaincroissandwich6950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sol Ring is the true commander of Commander decks. They're just super low-key about it.

    • @derrickwarner1
      @derrickwarner1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Correction: Sol Ring, Vedalken Orrey, and 98 other cards

    • @captaincroissandwich6950
      @captaincroissandwich6950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@derrickwarner1 Vedalken Orrery is sub-optimal if you're blue, because of Leyline of Anticipation, otherwise sure. :V

    • @mjspartansrule
      @mjspartansrule 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not wrong

  • @Jordan-nm3qu
    @Jordan-nm3qu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Also! For anyone who wants other resources for edh check out command zone, jumbocommander, tolarian community college, and command quarters for great deck tech, strategies and insite on commander!

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm Ryan Gomez and I approve this message.

    • @Jordan-nm3qu
      @Jordan-nm3qu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tcgplayercom thank you! And thank you for approving my message even with my horrible spelling of insight haha

    • @LeonSpires
      @LeonSpires 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And if you're a filthy degenerate cEDH player like me check out the laboratory maniacs.

  • @ezekielbenavides2740
    @ezekielbenavides2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Having a 99 card deck always seems like you have almost no idea what to actually select at first
    . It's always so surprising how intimate and important each card in the deck becomes after you've played with it a lot and tuned it.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, I periodically hold each card in my deck and ask myself if it sparks joy. It's a surprisingly good bellwether for if it's helping my strategy like it's supposed to.
      Sadly, Obsidian Fireheart has failed that test again, despite it being one of my all time favorite designs.

  • @hirosmirnov8287
    @hirosmirnov8287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    2:34 Literally thought he meant Bolas, lol

  • @BIOTREX
    @BIOTREX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    "Geared towards a casual play" suffered trauma by some dude that did infinite damage on 4th turn

    • @MrEliakimRAS
      @MrEliakimRAS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      "Casual" is a way broad word. The guy that goes infinite on 3rd turn and the guy that despises any sort of board interaction before 3 hours of game both believe their decks are casual.

    • @deathwarriorseve
      @deathwarriorseve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ah yes... the dreaded thirth turn

    • @cacs2201
      @cacs2201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@MrEliakimRAS I dont think anyone that does an infinite combo in turn 3 thinks his deck is casual and if he does, he is obviously wrong

    • @Morghast
      @Morghast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrEliakimRAS exactly. and they can be

    • @MrEliakimRAS
      @MrEliakimRAS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@cacs2201 "Casual" for some means "I am not playing tournaments with it", independently of its power level.
      "Casual" for others means "I am not even trying to win with it".
      "Casual", "75%", "competitive", "spirit of EDH" and "unfun card/strategy" varies too much from table to table.

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    How to play commander:
    Pick a commander with green in it's color identity.
    Add ramp.
    Add ETB creatures/maybe some LTB too.
    Add card advantage.
    Add a few disruption pieces.
    profit.
    Alternate method:
    Battlecruiser.edh

    • @heetsoak1565
      @heetsoak1565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @3veret841
      @3veret841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like Sultai good stuff

  • @tiffanywhitney9501
    @tiffanywhitney9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "There's nothing that scares me more than an Oversized Fireproof Arachnid" I love that line

  • @bluecorvidart
    @bluecorvidart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The 9x7 thing reminds me of a blog I saw that used an 8x8 method to sketch up commander decks! I find methods like that really helpful. I've got a huge collection of cards and the amount of options can be kind of overwhelming. I'm really glad you have a video for regular decks, too!

  • @Blakewyattdunfee
    @Blakewyattdunfee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Usually I go with a deck theme, for example a cat deck with cats like lions, tigers, leopards and so on or a deck with demons and devils or a deck with red western fire dragons, or a deck with elves, or a deck with merfolk, or a deck with angels, or a deck with dinosaurs, or a deck with whatever I'm in the mood for.

  • @TheOtherAngle
    @TheOtherAngle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All the kids that come to the card game club I run at school each year all learn to play Commander. This video is great!

  • @BrodyRing
    @BrodyRing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "How do you build a Commander deck?"
    I honestly just slap 99 cards together and pray it works.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      (Ryan) I'll cross my fingers for you.

    • @BrodyRing
      @BrodyRing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tcgplayercom Thank you, Ryan. Having your blessing should bring good luck.

  • @derekwalter4238
    @derekwalter4238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I'm building a new deck, I usually start with a template of 38 lands, 20 card draw & mana ramp, 10 to 15 removal / counter / interaction cards, and the rest is the on theme good stuff cards.

  • @sethb3090
    @sethb3090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My typical process for building a new commander deck goes like this: (for example)
    1. Open a cool legendary in a pack. Preferably one with a triggered ability. (Grand Warlord Radha)
    2. Love it and dream of cards that synergize with it. (token makers, expendable creatures, mana sinks)
    3. Decide to build a deck.
    4. Find cool cards in my binder, then look online for fairly cheap cards that will let me push the synergies to 11. (Broodhatch Nantuko, Moonveil Dragon, etc)
    5. S Y N E R G Y ! ! !
    6. Fill the rest of the list with interaction, protection, mana ramp/fixing, redundant effects in case someone hates my commander, and backup plans in case someone hates my strategy.
    7. Balance the mana and playtest!

    • @MarvelOfRain
      @MarvelOfRain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgat about the most painful steps: 1) step 6.5 - realize that you went overboard with ideas in step 5, the deck has 150 cards and you need to cut half nonlands. 2) step 6.51 - realize that all the cards you cut were interaction, protection and mana fixing and now you have no way of actually getting to all the sweet synergies - so you try to add as little of them as possible in order to make the deck work.

    • @Mr.Squiid111
      @Mr.Squiid111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

  • @matthewcolter
    @matthewcolter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spider Spawning or Arachnogenesis would be two great ways to make a bunch of spiders, which combos well with Ishkanah's activated ability. Plus, Arachnogenesis gives you a pseudo-fog ability. Just a thought.

  • @zaca3256
    @zaca3256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just recently built a Captain Sisay deck. Lots of fun. It gets nuts when I get Paradox Engine out.
    I particularly enjoy tutoring for all the peices of Kaldra and forming the "megazord".

    • @billable1861
      @billable1861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that paradox engine though

    • @zaca3256
      @zaca3256 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billable1861 I'm actually super chuffed about it.

    • @miaschwartz1074
      @miaschwartz1074 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment aged beautifully

  • @meatpuddle90
    @meatpuddle90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been considering for a few years now to play commander. This video helped me a lot. Thank you 😁 for those who are wondering I've been thinking of building a deck around either omnath locus of rage or krenko mob boss.

  • @WillfulVisions
    @WillfulVisions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is the card "Eaten by Spiders" not in this deck?!?!? I know it's not a very good card, but c'mon - THAT FLAVOR

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Ryan) I think that one wound up in there eventually but Nicole and I missed it on our first round of ideas. Good catch!

  • @MarioGonzalez-yx3fq
    @MarioGonzalez-yx3fq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far one of my favorite commanders. Such good tribal synergy.

  • @KennyViTran
    @KennyViTran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Obviously best way to make a commander go to scryfall and edhrec look at all the cards and put 100+ in then slowly and sadly remove till you have 100 😭😂 been waiting for this ep for a long time and happy with it keep making great content :))

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (Ryan) It's like starting with a block of marble and chipping away until you find the statue hidden within, right?

    • @KennyViTran
      @KennyViTran 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tcgplayercom Yeah Ryan... that's totally what it is. Not just shamble but a marble statue... of something 😂

  • @voxkine9385
    @voxkine9385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would be cool to see a new person’s deck they came up with and watch someone like you take it apart and “fix” it while providing reasoning.
    I, personally, have a decent understanding of deckbuilding for commander, but it would be cool to see the actual process from the views of a new player and an experienced player.

  • @amithyedavalli7491
    @amithyedavalli7491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad I'm here Ryan Gomez!

  • @sonkal-elkent6143
    @sonkal-elkent6143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY a guide that makes sense for me. I've always struggled with building commander. I LOVE Magic Arcanum!

  • @NotAnEvilMastermind
    @NotAnEvilMastermind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this!
    When it comes to commander, the deckbuilding just opens up so many possibilities for personalisation, and unless everyone at the table is playing a preconstructed deck or got a list of the internet, no two decks are ever the same, which i love seeing.
    One of my personal decks i play is a Niv-Mizzet, Parun deck - but every card in it has to be flavourfully justified.
    So I'm really glad that i recently got access to extra mana ramp with Firemind Vessel and the upcoming Talisman of Creativity (There's a Ral Zarek quote on it. It counts.) because with access to only the Ravnica-based nonbasic lands, the mana has been.... well.... questionable.

  • @aliceshiki8069
    @aliceshiki8069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting introductory video, I came here because I was like... "How can somebody possibly try to make a good Ishkanah deck? I tried before, it's impossible."
    Then I came here to watch and saw that you were more geared towards people new to the format and... I think you did a pretty good job at showcasing the format and giving good guidelines on how to make a functional deck~
    I don't think this video is very helpful for people that have already been playing the format for a while, but that doesn't seem to have been your intent, so that's not a problem.
    Really nice video anyways, I came here to watch it while being completely skeptical and had a really nice surprise by seeing the content~

  • @PhyxiusGaming
    @PhyxiusGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Commander and story time. You have to lve Ryan and his team!

  • @kingdedede1715
    @kingdedede1715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm making an artifact deck dealing with blue and green, and inside it it'll be able to do a lot of abilities depending on the first draw

  • @bbsheps8612
    @bbsheps8612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When I build decks, I just find a commander I like, them download the cheapest deck around them from edhrec(as a template), and I just swap in some cards that I actually want to play

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, the stingy AND lazy methods combined!

    • @bbsheps8612
      @bbsheps8612 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Sparkes admittedly, as a newcomer it is lazy of me when I could actually learn to build good decks

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bbsheps8612 Oh it's fine really! I was just messing around. The only way to get better at deckbuilding is to see other decks in play anyway, and even better, to play with them yourselr - no-one can build any good deck without some inspiration! Plus some of the most fun decks (at least on a non-competitive level) can be pretty cheap: Arcades Walls springs to mind! It's just at my LGS we tend to jokingly refer to pre-designed decks as 'lazy' and the cheap ones as 'stingy'...and it's hilarious and inspiring when they actually win, to get us brewers on our toes more!

    • @bbsheps8612
      @bbsheps8612 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Sparkes Arcades is my only commander deck so far 😂

    • @off-meta9962
      @off-meta9962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      EDH rec is helpful, but it only covers so much. I've built my best and absurdest decks ( Marchesa the Black rose and Marsil the Pretender) mostly without edh Rec and im so happy WotC now created Blightling for my Marsil deck

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ended up making a Palladia-Mors, The Ruiner EDH deck after watching this rather entertaining video way too many times, Mr. Gomez enthusiasm reminds me of the old joy of playing tabletop Magic.

  • @Blakewyattdunfee
    @Blakewyattdunfee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a reason why spiders have the reach ability? The only 2 reason I can guess is their long legs and their web traps.

  • @sharlockshacolmes9381
    @sharlockshacolmes9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "I want a sliver commander deck"
    so step 1 become rich...
    seem simple enough.
    Edit: everyone seems to be focused on the "sliver" part but you seem to forget that for a sliver deck to function you need a lot of non sliver key-cards that are expensive on top of a 5 color mana base that is pretty expensive.

    • @architectofdreams73
      @architectofdreams73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sure, If you want it to be competitive. There are cheap slivers out there. Maybe not as a commander though, that might cost some pennies. But the rest you don't HAVE to get all the expensive ones.

    • @joeyhamilton6854
      @joeyhamilton6854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can proxy the commander then just use cheap slivers to play

    • @NumberFreak2000
      @NumberFreak2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about a sliver deck that doesn't use a sliver commander?

    • @puffin-onehandedgamer1164
      @puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@architectofdreams73 the commanders themselves are the most expensive, the slivers are not. Sliver Queen and Sliver legion are around 100-120 $, Sliver Hivelord is about 40, Overlord is 30 $ and the new one "The first sliver" is currently going for 38 $. These prices are of course Card Kingdom prices, they might be different on TCG player.

    • @puffin-onehandedgamer1164
      @puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NumberFreak2000 you can use the new changeling one... "Morophon the boundless" if you like, that works.

  • @swordoflorn
    @swordoflorn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Easy. Four pillars of a good deck:
    1. Card draw
    2. Mana ramp
    3. Mana curve
    4. Win con
    Tips: put in about 35 lands with ramp spells/artifacts and play mainly 1-4 cmc spells with a few game winning bombs.

  • @phyrexiahive9440
    @phyrexiahive9440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I build my deck based on the effect of the deck/commander. Like Omnath Locust of Mana. Food Chain and Eternal Scourge boost that little guy to a big. I add other things like token makers, Avenger of Zendikar, Doubling Season and so on. But my Pride and Joy Tier 1 EDH beater is Skittles. Infect is one mechanic all the Opponents do not enjoy to witness especially when you have a flyer to boot. When you're building also think about Tutors and your Land Cycle. How many lands do you want? Do you want specialty lands, dual lands, shock lands and ext. Sometimes you can have mutliple cards in EDH if its in the text box. Not all EDH decks follow the only 1 card rule.

  • @dbfbody
    @dbfbody 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this video. I still haven't made my own deck (I usually just check out ones others make or pre-cons and do modifications). Commander is such a fun format, and taking a night here and there to go to your local game store and make some new friends, play some Commander is just the best thing.

  • @Vesdus
    @Vesdus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I also have a foil Ishkanah stashed away for EDH

  • @RikuofManyPaths
    @RikuofManyPaths 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to try to build the deck around the commander, and that worked great. Then I tried something different: I picked one or two mechanics you rarely ever see used, and build a deck around them, picking the commander after that. I have one deck called Living Plane that never wins. It is more of an environmental hazard to the other players. Helped by Cromat and using the Retrace mechanic and Life From the Loam, it just uses the lands as copies of the key spells, and will occasionally last long enough to end one opponent with either a mass of maggots or commander damage from Cromat itself.

  • @The_Sharktocrab
    @The_Sharktocrab 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant get enough of this content it's way too good for youtube

  • @grimmofsparta5022
    @grimmofsparta5022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one expection to the color identity is extort, because the black/white case is in the reminder text. It's a fun loophole, that doesn't really make a huge difference

  • @Cylon963
    @Cylon963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Building your first commander deck is best with a friend that’s already in commander. They can probably give you there bulk rare’s, help you find a commander that you might like it or loan you a few of their commander decks.
    Or you can Buy commander deck at your local lgs or online and start from there but it’s good to know the basics of commander.

  • @UnNormzEden
    @UnNormzEden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That moment you realize that in the war of the spark Nicol Bolas is basically playing an EDH deck with Liliana as his general.

  • @vincevigil8933
    @vincevigil8933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another great video my friend keeps it coming. Nice new face hair too by the way lol

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG9777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yaaaaas I needed this. Trying to build one of my favorite commanders: Slimefoot and could use some advice so I make sure I don't screw up too much lolz

  • @diegom6217
    @diegom6217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Since a nyx weaver is an enchantment creature, I guess you could say: A nyx in the field is worth two in the grave.

  • @MultrakSin
    @MultrakSin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My approach is very formulaic at first but my decks are never really final, I find things that can be changed over time and synergies that can be stronger too by adding cards while removing weaker ones.
    My tip is always consider curve for ramp and land count and the rest shall follow if you keep minding your curve as well! As for big splashy spells decks, I don't play those often but when I do I include a lot of ramp and draw (big ones, as Rishkar's Expertise) and gradual draw for low to the ground commanders, I like doing decks for partners as some commanders are draw engine themselves and let the whole deck shine rather than be the sole celebrity of the deck!
    That's my take on it at least! :)

  • @joshprice4855
    @joshprice4855 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm actually building a Keranos spell slinger commander deck that utilizes a bunch of red/blue spells that either do multiple effects or do unexpected things like redirect targeted abilities.
    Because I think the best feeling in magic is when you do something and everyone at the table looks at what you just did with a mix of confusion and mild amusement

  • @moonlightdawn7249
    @moonlightdawn7249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would kessig recluse be a good addition to the deck?

  • @LedPESRule
    @LedPESRule 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great stuff as usual, hopefully this will bring even more people to this awesome format.
    Btw, what's up with that insane 'stache? Was that thing always there? xD

  • @royalblizzardgaming4355
    @royalblizzardgaming4355 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first commander deck is in the mail. I got some money for Christmas, so I build and ordered a 50$ Yarok the Desecrated commander deck. Unfortunately, I can’t get ahold of a Craterhoof Behemoth, but I think End-Raze forerunners will work just fine

  • @biggsg1934
    @biggsg1934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time watching your channel, subbed right after watching the video. When I pull an interesting legendary creature from my packs, I almost immediately start thinking about how I'd build a fun commander deck around them. I'll usually start budget, spending $25 to $50 while using placeholders, and if I enjoy it enough, then I'll work on upgrading it. I did feel like the rule of 9 was a bit excessive, as I generally like my decks to focus on doing one or two things extremely well, with a few ways to deal with my opponents' stuff without losing the focus of the deck. For example, my Emmara, Soul of the Accord deck focuses on token generation with a life gain subtheme. I do run ramp, draw & targeted removal, but only one Wrath of God, which is in there as an "Oh crap!" button. Also, in every deck I build, I make sure I have one non-combat related win con, so I can get around fog effects and the like.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is exactly what I do. Can we be friends?

  • @matthewmccreight9854
    @matthewmccreight9854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to build around tribes or theme the deck around card types or a specific linear goal that the whole deck works toward achieving... Very often I'm the threat at the table, and I still manage to win a fair amount of the time... Even if I dont win, the deck does whatever its thing is... Which i think is impressive enough...

  • @ConMan-bx1rk
    @ConMan-bx1rk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a friend trying to get into commander, and this video will be perfect for them! Thank you!

    • @wasabiwaffle
      @wasabiwaffle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send them some Commanders Quarters videos! Mitch's channel is great for cheap commander decks

  • @moonlightdawn7249
    @moonlightdawn7249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can timberpack wolf due to its ability be more than 1 copy?

  • @noxenordo8276
    @noxenordo8276 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    See I like what your saying, but I tend to build my decks with two win cons and an alt con to help me survive to that point, and then put in multiple ways to get one of those two win cons off, like with azami, I run pick up your library as the main win con, infinite turns as the secondary, and counter spells as the support

  • @bonnsyvue
    @bonnsyvue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an updated video on this or does this video sound good already? How about telling a stories of the recent/upcoming commander decks?

  • @marcussnoerr7061
    @marcussnoerr7061 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic! You did one more. Now i only hope this becomes a regular series :D

  • @supersam5802
    @supersam5802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also probably the most inportant place to look as you put together your deck is edhrec

  • @steelbreaker7
    @steelbreaker7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys should do this with other different flavorful commander decks, i think itd be really interesting

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the ideas for that Ishkanah list! And honestly, I build my decks very similarly to the way you just did, but I choose legendary creatures to build around based on their abilities that I haven't played with yet and sometimes I just look through my collection to see if there are any off the wall legends that I could build with. It's a lot of fun, and especially if you've got the extra resources for multiple decks, but the best part about EDH is that as long as you're with a good pod the resources don't matter. People often let others borrow cards or decks to play with, and there is always room for trading to bump up your power level. Lately I've been goofing off more and competing less because my cEDH list is really good, but most games you will never need to compete that way. Building with collection scraps is a very fun way to get started and budget the list, so I appreciate that structure and organizational method.

  • @jasonmolenaar119
    @jasonmolenaar119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pick commander: Yargle
    Pick cards: Equipment
    Other cards: Mana doubles and Mana Rocks
    Lands: 34 snow swamp
    *release the frog*

    • @billable1861
      @billable1861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I approve and it seems fun to play against too

  • @antoine_as
    @antoine_as 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helps me so much for this format totally new for me ! Thank you a lot.

  • @Eldofarmboy
    @Eldofarmboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two commander decks. One is a red, white, blue, and black deck built mainly to be a sadistic mofo playing with its food by milling, exiling, pinging, making you discard, and making you sacrifice all while gaining a little bit of life. If you don't scoop out of frustration I'll bring in some big creatures and deliver the killing blow after having toyed with you and exhausted most of your removal/counters. The second deck I just ordered last week. It uses Kaalia Of The Vast as the commander and it centers around ramping up and using angels to gain life and indestructibility, demons to destroy and make you sacrifice, and then along come the dragons to bash your face in. It also runs a few board wipes so I can blow everything off of my opponent's field if needed before swinging in for the kill with a mass of huge indestructible creatures

  • @clon1122
    @clon1122 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done one on brawl? It's coming to arena and I would like to see what kind of deck strats you could talk about.

  • @EvertfromNederland
    @EvertfromNederland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never knew origins of EDH. NIce that you added this in there.

  • @koletromp6194
    @koletromp6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do more of these please

  • @HiroZeroVirus
    @HiroZeroVirus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my method for building a commander: "ooh this is nifty effect that could be super over powered if operated right!" finds no cards in existance that can help it. "JENK IT IS!" or also "hey have you ever noticed that there is enough cards to run a tribal [Blank]? i should build a deck that has no solid focus around this tribe." which is why i have my Tribal wincon commander, every piece of it is part of the giant machine of me winning.... my machine usually breaks before i can turn it on...

    • @howsjames1
      @howsjames1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree with all of this. Unless you play competitive then this format is just a ton of fun. I don't give a shit if it loses 75% of the games it plays, my Yargle deck is boatloads of fund and I'll never stop using it.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are always cards that help it. Always.
      For example, my friend built new Aurelia, and we found out that a random Theros block 1cmc enchantment, Break Through The Line, is possibly the best card in the deck. Let the bulk rares and uncommons flow through you.

  • @colinjerista2551
    @colinjerista2551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *Dormoooooomu, I have come to bargain*

    • @Damatovg
      @Damatovg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perfect name for a deck built around blinking things

  • @jacobcain9008
    @jacobcain9008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why use permanant removal when you have player removal?

  • @AdamBacchus01
    @AdamBacchus01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "We're just going to have to nuke them all from orbit..."
    Well Ryan, it's the only way to be sure...

    • @MetPhD
      @MetPhD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I paused the video after he said that just to look for a comment like this. I am not disappointed :-D

  • @drakecryderman5377
    @drakecryderman5377 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos. You should do how to build a draft deck

  • @mageofwar5438
    @mageofwar5438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stache is on Point. Good video

  • @TheEhlek23
    @TheEhlek23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only have one commander deck centered around borborygmos enraged whos able to deal up to 96 damage per discarded land.

  • @truegrit2060
    @truegrit2060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in my own spider deck(Thantis,The Warweaver) I added instant-traps & fog instants. 🕷

  • @maixaule
    @maixaule 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man so much fun on this THX for the explanation! (Nice mustaches it suit you)

  • @Alice_Haukea
    @Alice_Haukea 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.
    I still suck at deck building myself. I keep falling into the trap of "big flashy cards". I often get distracted by the big 8/8 creature I could cast, and completely miss over the fact that I could cast 3 little cards that might set up some combo with longer term value.
    The other main problem I find myself dealing with is card evaluation. Making sure I have enough balance between draw, ramp, creature, win-condition, ETC is one thing, but making sure each card within said categories are viable enough on their own.
    People tell me to consider a card as a lone top deck draw. If you top deck this card without anything else, can you play it? Is the card viable at all stages of the game? Is its effect worth the cost investment to cast it?
    So balancing all that is still really hard for me. But I keep playing. Commander is great.

  • @shawnmsattler2116
    @shawnmsattler2116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mono green, hydra/ disruptor deck. Got 1 hydra with +1/+1 hydra with 40 lands plus doubling season and 1 card that count all trees including your creatures. It came out around +213/+213 hydra.

  • @VanillaGorilla621
    @VanillaGorilla621 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love building commander decks. I built both of mine and one for my daughter.

    • @matthewlaxon828
      @matthewlaxon828 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a high school student and have been making 2-3 decks a week for a few weeks
      (Not trying to flex, I just think I need help)

    • @ardiwii
      @ardiwii 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewlaxon828 i feel you, I've only started for like a month, and almost made 3 decks, although they are in the same colors and can use same cards, but still pushes me to buy more cards for each of them and neglect my budget restriction

  • @Sir_Francis
    @Sir_Francis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rules of Thumb, A History Lesson, & a Deck Tech... well played sir!

  • @Jaesnek
    @Jaesnek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My process for deckbuilding is pretty much just find a strategy I want to play, or a combo I want to win with and then find the best way I can do that. I'll usually hunt down a commander after I find my strategy.

  • @Grimpo96
    @Grimpo96 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I typically look at my commanders abilities and go through them one at a time. Erebos, as an example, prevents my opponents from gaining life, needs devotion, can pay life and mana to draw a card, and it’s a 5/7 indestructible creature. I would then add synergize cards to the deck that would work with each bit, like how Alhammarret’s Archive would work with the draw ability and the preventing my opponents from gaining life. Just because THEY can’t gain life, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t.

  • @zeitgeistofficial8166
    @zeitgeistofficial8166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've really been looking into commander recently, and this video has helped out a tonne!
    Just one question on the card restrictions, do the cards "Rat Colony" and "Relentless Rats" negate this, as they have an ability that states "You can have any number of X in your deck"? I was looking at potentially making a fun "Patron of Nezumi" deck, and was wondering if I could have a flood of these smaller creatures or if I would need to pick something else.
    Cheers!

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (Ryan) Yes! Those cards are the exception to the "only one" rule. Good luck with your deck!

  • @Burden82
    @Burden82 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    there should be way more ramp because iskanahs activated ability is a wincon by it self and if you can activated it more than once each turn it kills pretty fast with lots of spiders

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Ryan) Yeah probably. We were counting on the big-butt spiders to protect us while we just get our lands out, but a few mana rocks wouldn't hurt.

  • @ry7hym
    @ry7hym 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thank you! I think this must be the best explaining video about commander! this is perfect to show to my friends who want to jump in commander ^_^

  • @thebookpotato310
    @thebookpotato310 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am totally throwing this deck together, SPIDERS! Already bought my Ishkanah

  • @Will_Morand
    @Will_Morand 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m actually working on a lore-focused Chandra deck with Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh at the helm and any card relating to Chandra and her story in the 99.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Ryan) I love character based decks like that!

  • @monomanamaniac
    @monomanamaniac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Draw and mana acceleration are mandatory categories for each deck

  • @mjspartansrule
    @mjspartansrule 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know commander can also be played on a point series system. Does anyone have any thing they made up they would share?

  • @xenasBS
    @xenasBS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My approach: look through thousands of cards on scryfall using tens of searchterms untill I have like twenty folders of cards in my phone with different categories. Cut out as much as possible from that, untill you can't anymore. Than reduce it all to ten or fewer folders by broadening each category, and only keep the best of each of those folders. After that's all done, cut out anything that's too expensive. Leaves me with 70 to 75 cards. Add some lands and then experiment which 60/65 cards work best in your deck.
    Takes way too much effort but you end up with pretty good budget decks.

  • @tomcat8234
    @tomcat8234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always use edhrec when building buildings a commander deck.

    • @arcynical8053
      @arcynical8053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It works but it's really frowned upon in a lot of playgroups. If you build a complete deck with edhrec you have a pile of cards with synergy, but almost no flavour at all and you'll never find some hidden gems that almost no one thought of. If skimming through whole card sets isn't your thing it's okay to use but I only use it when I almost finished a deck so I can see what I missed in my own building process. Just try the non edhrec approach and see if you like it more, I sure do!

    • @tomcat8234
      @tomcat8234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arcynical8053 i usually edit my deck with cards that i didn't see in the list that makes my decks better.

  • @jasoncg2956
    @jasoncg2956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:41 Just got flashbacks to the time I was living at my old apartments and my mom had a huge-ass lumpy spider hanging outside her window. Tried everything to kill it: smacking with shoes (various), light it on fire, take it down with a hose full-blast, Raid (or something like it). Nothing.
    We eventually went back to trying to use my neighbors lighter to burn it, although it took us holding the flame directly under the spider for approximately 50 minutes without moving. Fun times.

  • @saladtop8499
    @saladtop8499 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be good to use palladia-mors the ruined as my commander?

  • @ryangolden2280
    @ryangolden2280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need help making a first sliver commander deck because it is my first time making one. My budget is 200

  • @patrickleonard1114
    @patrickleonard1114 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to build a commander deck with Kaalia, Zenith Seeker. Any suggestions?

  • @nathanhill4810
    @nathanhill4810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have recently built a Niv Mizzit deck, as well as a Slimefoot deck and am working on a Sram deck at the moment. My older decks are a Uril, General T, and a fun mono green Grunn deck. Could you possibly take us on a journey through pauper as well? This has been my building interest the last few months as well. Blessings

  • @Kronical69420
    @Kronical69420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tell her to add Conjurers Closet to blink Ishkanah in and out.

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      (Ryan) She actually already did put that in the final list!

  • @billzear
    @billzear 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna make a deck modeled after the legend of zelda using Surrak Dragonclaw as my commander and "riding the dilu horse" and "hero blade" included. Also I was cards like elves, mirfolk, and goblins and orks. Can you help me?

    • @tcgplayercom
      @tcgplayercom  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Ryan) When I think of Legend of Zelda, I think of the equipment Link carries. Hero's Blade is a good start. Heart-Piercer Bow, Viridian Longbow, Ratchet Bomb, Panic Spellbomb, Swiftfoot Boots, Trailblazer Boots, Shield of the Realm, Vanguard's Shield, you could do a lot with giving your commander the right tools for each "boss fight" so to speak!

  • @rightfulfuture4
    @rightfulfuture4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wolfbriar elemental would be really good, creating a ton of tokens to drain your enemy.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that card in my Grand Warlord Radha deck. Nothing like swinging in and then casting Wolfbriar Elemental kicked 22 times...