What a great idea for a score analysis series. For people like me who grew up not only with Beethoven and Stravinsky but also with Williams and Horner it is fantastic to see publishers releasing full orchestral scores of all the music in the movie. Fantastic job Thomas!
James Horner is my favorite composer-I was just about listening to him when I saw this video! It is a dream coming true having a professional analyzing his work. I hope from the bottom of my heart this series thrives and inspires many composers in the future.
I just ordered my copy! The other goldmine score is the Jerry Goldsmith full score for StarTrek the Motion Picture. That score is amazing and a gold mine!
Excellent video as always. There are quite a few integral moments in this score that were heavily inspired by Jerry Goldsmith's work for Alien. Would love to see a review on that monumental film score.
Cheers, Mark! I have several more lined up over the coming months - plus perhaps some additional clips for analysis from some scores. Watch this space.
@@OrchestrationOnline would be very happy to see that. Not sure if you are aware but Chris Siddle does a live creation of a cue at 8pm UK time on Sunday. He is at this moment live streaming creating a Bram Stoker's Dracular cue in Sibelius.
There’s the game Choices Stories You Play that has MANY songs that I love to analyze and figure out the instruments and rhythms as I hear them again and again. There’s one called Twisted Fate under the name The Royal Masquerade. Very wonderful score I wish I could transcribe so I can see how it is composed and conducted. I feel it’s in a 3/4 time signature with articulated and slurred notes. I also hear half notes, dotted half notes, dotted quarter notes and some subdivision of other notes.
Thank you sir. Im a lifelong alien music fan, including J. Goldsmith and E. Goldenth soundtracks and I gobble up everything I can find about it, scores, videos, recordings, analysis... This is a great gift. ❤
Terrific video and a very welcome idea to do also film scoring. If I understood right the full video and score analysis is only accessible for patreon users? Thank you for the info. You make a very wonderful and inspiring contribution for all us, to learning orchestration!
Do you take ideas for score analysis videos? I'd love to see one on the integration of folk instruments into the orchestra of How to Train Your Dragon!
I still consider Horner to be more of an arranger than composer. Especially in Aliens there's pretty much not a single original idea. But even in his other scores he's reusing preexisting musical material a tad bit more than healthy imo. Not denying his talent however especially when comes to orchestration.... We definitely need more of these film score probes.
I watched Aliens 56 times in theaters...I still have the movie tickets with me. Absolutely sure this is James Horner´s ultimate masterpiece. wonder what Aliens would be like without this score. just another b movie.
It works for me. I tested it when I first uploaded this video, and then tested it again after reading your comment. Maybe try a web search on the term if the link isn't working.
You should go to the link in the info. It is a study-score engraving of the original score that was used in the recording session. There is no feature of adaptation that changes what you're hearing in the recording, or what the musicians read on the stands, from what I understand. What's mainly changed is the page layout and much more readable engraving.
Concert pitch is the standard in writing commercial music (for the full scores, not the parts of course). Omni Music recently did a poll asking whether they should do their future film score releases in Concert pitch or transposing, and it was something like 80% or more for concert. Mainly, I'm sure, because anyone in the industry is used to that and because it makes the scores more accessible.
So I'm watching Star wars revenge of the Sith. There is music in the begging of the movie where Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan are fighting count doku and réalésé the Chancellor. The music is exactly from Aliens which is one of my favorite collection. Has this been copied from your music?
Epic. I imagine some of the special effects/aleatory was a helpful means of quickly writing extensive amounts of material, in a short space of time, too.
@@SkrapProduction The division of the brass shown in the video is taken directly from Penderecki's "Als Jakob erwachte". Which is totally ok, after all the score was riveted together in 11 days.
What a great idea for a score analysis series. For people like me who grew up not only with Beethoven and Stravinsky but also with Williams and Horner it is fantastic to see publishers releasing full orchestral scores of all the music in the movie. Fantastic job Thomas!
Thank you very ,very much!!! Very good work and fun to analyse with you!!!
James Horner is my favorite composer-I was just about listening to him when I saw this video! It is a dream coming true having a professional analyzing his work. I hope from the bottom of my heart this series thrives and inspires many composers in the future.
this is freaking awesome. I ordered the score right away and will check out your patron site as well. thanks for all the work so far.
That was so interesting! I feel my inspiration to compose film music rising :)
And im am GOING to use a styrophone cup!!!
LOL
I absolutely insist on it.
I just ordered my copy! The other goldmine score is the Jerry Goldsmith full score for StarTrek the Motion Picture. That score is amazing and a gold mine!
Thank you Thomas for this wonderful video like always :)
The link to the Orchestration Online dot com Film Score Access post has been added to this video's info. Hope it's helpful.
Excellent video as always. There are quite a few integral moments in this score that were heavily inspired by Jerry Goldsmith's work for Alien. Would love to see a review on that monumental film score.
That score (the Goldsmith Alien) is not yet available); However, his Star Trek the Motion picture Score is
Fantastic, great to have Film Score reviews
Cheers, Mark! I have several more lined up over the coming months - plus perhaps some additional clips for analysis from some scores. Watch this space.
@@OrchestrationOnline would be very happy to see that. Not sure if you are aware but Chris Siddle does a live creation of a cue at 8pm UK time on Sunday. He is at this moment live streaming creating a Bram Stoker's Dracular cue in Sibelius.
@@Markrspooner can you give more information about that? Maybe a link? Thank you very much.
Very cool video!! Can’t wait for this series. We need more film and video game scores to study and read!
There’s the game Choices Stories You Play that has MANY songs that I love to analyze and figure out the instruments and rhythms as I hear them again and again. There’s one called Twisted Fate under the name The Royal Masquerade. Very wonderful score I wish I could transcribe so I can see how it is composed and conducted. I feel it’s in a 3/4 time signature with articulated and slurred notes. I also hear half notes, dotted half notes, dotted quarter notes and some subdivision of other notes.
Thank you sir. Im a lifelong alien music fan, including J. Goldsmith and E. Goldenth soundtracks and I gobble up everything I can find about it, scores, videos, recordings, analysis... This is a great gift. ❤
Fascinating, thanks so much for making this video. Aliens really is an incredible score
Great - just ordered my copy plus a few extras as well.
So awesome, Thomas!!!
Thanks so much!
Fantastic, I love this, I can’t wait for the next one in the series!
Thanks so much Thomas!
Just ordered my copy based on this review.
I would definitely buy an Alien score too
Brilliant video!
Thank you!
Terrific video and a very welcome idea to do also film scoring. If I understood right the full video and score analysis is only accessible for patreon users? Thank you for the info. You make a very wonderful and inspiring contribution for all us, to learning orchestration!
Thanks for your very kind words. Happy to help. Yes. the full hour of score analysis is a Patreon exclusive.
Hello!! Very cool! Maybe you know where can I to get this score in PDF?
Do you take ideas for score analysis videos? I'd love to see one on the integration of folk instruments into the orchestra of How to Train Your Dragon!
Horner should've mentioned how, in desperation, he fell back on some of the stuff he did for his previous work on the movie, Wolfen.
I still consider Horner to be more of an arranger than composer. Especially in Aliens there's pretty much not a single original idea. But even in his other scores he's reusing preexisting musical material a tad bit more than healthy imo. Not denying his talent however especially when comes to orchestration.... We definitely need more of these film score probes.
I watched Aliens 56 times in theaters...I still have the movie tickets with me. Absolutely sure this is James Horner´s ultimate masterpiece. wonder what Aliens would be like without this score. just another b movie.
That is one movie with some music.
Chris Siddall Music Publishing link doesn't work, why?
It works for me. I tested it when I first uploaded this video, and then tested it again after reading your comment. Maybe try a web search on the term if the link isn't working.
Love it! Would like to see some John Williams or Danny Elfman in the future
You are GREAT
*raises hand* "Is styrofoam an instrument?"
It's a whole frame of mind.
Wait so is this a transcription by Chris Siddall or is it copied/adapted from some kind of 'official' source?
You should go to the link in the info. It is a study-score engraving of the original score that was used in the recording session. There is no feature of adaptation that changes what you're hearing in the recording, or what the musicians read on the stands, from what I understand. What's mainly changed is the page layout and much more readable engraving.
@@OrchestrationOnline Awesome, thanks!
Well done, open scene is my favorite
really very good, gonna take a look! Do some Penderecki next time!
So, to be clear, are all instruments written in concert pitch?
Thanks for this amazing video!
Yes.
Concert pitch is the standard in writing commercial music (for the full scores, not the parts of course). Omni Music recently did a poll asking whether they should do their future film score releases in Concert pitch or transposing, and it was something like 80% or more for concert. Mainly, I'm sure, because anyone in the industry is used to that and because it makes the scores more accessible.
So I'm watching Star wars revenge of the Sith. There is music in the begging of the movie where Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan are fighting count doku and réalésé the Chancellor. The music is exactly from Aliens which is one of my favorite collection. Has this been copied from your music?
Is there any way that you can upload the full score analysis here, or are there copyright issues?
My agreement with the publishers only extends to brief examples for public viewing, and extended viewing of content on Patreon.
@@OrchestrationOnline ahhh, understandable. Looking forward to seeing more of these.
Best music I've heard since Star Trek 2!!! LOL
❤🎉😊
The military rhythm mostly creates huge impact… mostly.
A-firmative.
Horner killed it with Aliens.
Epic. I imagine some of the special effects/aleatory was a helpful means of quickly writing extensive amounts of material, in a short space of time, too.
Great..!! Thank you Thomas, for sharing it with us.!! Probably some of us will become aliens trying to get this musical undestanding level...😅👍🏻👍🏻
Gail was quite the snot back then.
Well, certainly as Horner points out, Cameron and Hurd were not yet very experienced with the realities of music production at the time.
@@OrchestrationOnline, absolutely. I think this is a good lesson for composers to be aware of (well, and directors).
Inspired by Penderecki, perhaps?
Wow, good point. I'm surprised I haven't connected the two composers.
@@SkrapProduction The division of the brass shown in the video is taken directly from Penderecki's "Als Jakob erwachte". Which is totally ok, after all the score was riveted together in 11 days.
@@henningbackhaus6268 thank you for pointing this out! I actually never listened to that particular piece by him. I'll go check it out.
Gail was quite the snot back then.