Amorphage - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

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    With heavy maintenance and a strict build that barely allowed any techs, this archetype exited the Yu-Gi-Oh community as fast as it came into it. today, we capitalize on the Amorphage player’s misfortune and explain why this archetype belongs in the Hall of Fail.
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ความคิดเห็น • 312

  • @lancerguy3667
    @lancerguy3667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +311

    I get what they were going for with the maintenance cost. Tributing pendulum monsters during your standby phase meant you were getting rid of their floodgates to start your main phase, and you could just pendulum summon all of them right back when you were ready for them... it's just a pity the monster levels were all over the place, and the scales were way too stingy for a deck that doesn't let you special summon non-archetype things anyway.

    • @AvenFallen
      @AvenFallen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      I think the main problem were the scales. The best thing about Pendulum Decks back then was that you did not really run out of ressources as long as you had Pendulum Scales, since your Pendulums went to the Extra Deck. But Amorphage could easily run out of ressources, just because there was no way to bring their used monsters or scales back.

    • @windmirror7083
      @windmirror7083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yet alone, they could only summon less than half their monsters consistently

    • @LucasFleming-lq2ry
      @LucasFleming-lq2ry 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I genuinely think a dracoverlord Link that acts like gilgamesh would be great. Since you'd basically be able to choose. And if the link monster had an effect that if it's tributed it can summon a ritual dracoverlord. Ignoring summoning conditions, that would make amorphage from a f tier deck to a meta contender in 1 card.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@AvenFallen
      Oh, I get it. You are supposed to use other cards, despite their lockdown, like how they are draconic mutations of nondragons. Pity competitive prefers pure... for some reason.

    • @AvenFallen
      @AvenFallen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@LucasFleming-lq2ry The question is if someone actually wants that. Because in the end, Amorphage is really floodgate.dek. And I think it speaks for itself when the Deck never got Support after its initial Release, because making it viable would just make the game a lot worse IMO.

  • @OoToxiToxioO
    @OoToxiToxioO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    Cowboys fans catching strays lmao didn't expect that from this channel tbh

    • @milehighgambler
      @milehighgambler 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      😂😂😂

    • @jeremybrown9611
      @jeremybrown9611 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      2nd time Ive seen it so far😂

    • @prsuave420
      @prsuave420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My favorite part of the video 😂😂 # gobirds

    • @FriedGamer
      @FriedGamer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      We’re used to it

    • @plabcentral630
      @plabcentral630 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Deserved

  • @Wickedred413
    @Wickedred413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    "The Dallas cowboys of the Yu-Gi-Oh world" Damn you didn't have to drop a bar like that

  • @leojamesquiambao1047
    @leojamesquiambao1047 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    There are admittedly some decks that, if they were given even a bit of decent support would be very unfun to play against. Amorphage falls into that category. Really glad Konami didn't make this archetype good, playing against floodgate turbo is really frustrating

  • @robertoschirmer5530
    @robertoschirmer5530 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Can't wait for the new Field Spell "Amorphage Sinister Playground", that says "Once per turn if a monster(s) on your side of the field would be tributed or if a card(s) in your Pendulum Zone would be destroyed, you can banish the top card of your deck instead."

    • @azurephantom100
      @azurephantom100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      while its not easily searched in amorphage why not lair of darkness tribute the opponent's monsters

    • @PokemonTrainerChris303
      @PokemonTrainerChris303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking they would get something that says while this card is on the field you don’t need to tribute for effect but touché 😂. They work well with metaphoes. Popping them causes their continuous spell to activate so you can search all the floodgates easier. But that was back when pendulums were the hottest thing too 😂😂

    • @mbrusyda9437
      @mbrusyda9437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How does that even work?
      Say you got Kaiju'd, do you then say "Oh, no, return that monster, banish my top deck instead"?

    • @themobilewalrus6269
      @themobilewalrus6269 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@azurephantom100 Lair of Darkness does not work with Amorphage because they don't tribute as cost or for an effect its a maintenance upkeep so it doesn't combo with Lair

    • @robertoschirmer5530
      @robertoschirmer5530 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mbrusyda9437 That's an excellent question I didn't think about while writing my comment. 😂
      But I think, you get the general idea of such a card. Maybe it should say "...if *you* would tribute one of your monster(s)..." 😅

  • @jpmedina8328
    @jpmedina8328 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Funny how Konami was naming the monsters based on the 7 deadly sins, but when they reached Lust they just went and said "Lechery", a cute synonym for Lust, since no one knows wtf Lechery means 💀💀💀

    • @azurephantom100
      @azurephantom100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      but people have heard at least in passing someone being called a lech or them being lecherous mostly old men in anime

    • @j0j0dartiste21
      @j0j0dartiste21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lechery has always felt to me like a worse word for hornyness

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Should have used "Luxury" which was Latin for lust

  • @Gwenth
    @Gwenth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    I think we can all agree that it's a good thing this archetype never took off. And it seems Konami decided to so themselves, because it could've easily been a thing.
    In fact a lot of the restrictions this Deck has seem purposeful, not only in-lore but also for balance. The Tribute cost means your floodgates get weaker each turn and that your opponent can actually imagine breaking your lock turn 3 or 5. (A quality not many floodgates have, most of them get better each turn.)
    And the fact you can't Pendulum Summon the most oppressive Amorphages, means you have limited recovery (especially in MR3) and that you have to commit more ressources for better results. Of course the Spell & Traps alleviate that, but you better draw them.
    In lore it also makes sense, the Amorphages are really strong but they are unnatural, and created from a horrible magic, With their innocent animal bodies writhing in pain, and their dragon shell melting and dying in front of your eyes. They're the sins of someone who created dragons for his own glory. And in the end, Goliath, the sin of Vanity, the only one that perfected a dragon form, merges with its creator, that soons becomes the embodiment of pain. Vector being the other half of memories of Luster, but anyway.
    I will say kudos to the designers for all of this, they knew how to put interesting limitations to not easily make this archetype the most insufferable mesh in existence. (Though Sloth/Goliath are sometimes played outside of Amorphage unfortunately.)
    And in my opinion, they could easily modernize the archetype with a few support cards; consistency cards, something to Tribute, a Spell & Trap searcher, and even, why not, Ritual elements scattered in. As long as they keep the spirit of them being a 'fast burning' floodgate Deck, with each floodgate becoming weaker and weaker each turn so that the opponent has a chance to break it all after a few turns, this would promote back and forth, but also important ressources management from the Amorphage player (Which Amorphage floodgate to use for this turn? What card to Tribute? Can I kill this turn? etc). Though they should be careful to make it so none of them could be cheated out in other Pendulum Decks and completely miss the whole point of the archetype.

    • @piusbutarbutar1782
      @piusbutarbutar1782 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      a single batch of sustain support of this deck can make prime eldlitch stun like a baby toy

  • @nickyheart
    @nickyheart 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    the bots are in a tier 0 format

  • @mekahans3678
    @mekahans3678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Konami often love to make random archetype only for "LORE"
    especialy during ArcV era

  • @frankaxe6700
    @frankaxe6700 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As a Dallas cowboys fan I can Agree with your statement

  • @illdoittomorrow2368
    @illdoittomorrow2368 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    The amorphages worst downfall came with the link era. Now they can't even summon a link monster, which means they can only pendulum summon 1 monster from the extra deck. So they will never be able to fully pay their maintenance cost without outside support.

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Honestly whether it would be fun or not it also is weird they never got a Link monster because they're based on the 9 Deadly Sins but stopped at 8.

    • @EternalEmperorofZakuul
      @EternalEmperorofZakuul 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No wonder I didn't find pendulums interesting

    • @azurephantom100
      @azurephantom100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the most likely ran out of mechanics to block also the sins were combined turning the 9 sins into 7 sins. according to the wiki, goliath is vanity (fitting lol) that was combined with envy and depending on which sin youre talking about are ether combined with another sin, used a different word/name, or was just outright dropped.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Zetact_
      ... Nine?

    • @mje71103
      @mje71103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@Bezaliel13Minor history lesson, apologies.
      There never was 9 at the same time, but the Amorphages' origins per the OCG are the Greek/Latin *eight evil thoughts,* the seven deadly sins' precursors, the list itself being almost about the same as what we got today, except for namely Vainglory (which Goliath is named after) and Sorrow. The latter I assume is what he's referring to as the "ninth sin," which nowadays has rolled in with the older definition of Acedia in Apathy to make modern day form of Acedia as Sloth, and Vainglory as an extension of Pride, making Envy a new addition altogether.

  • @mattbaltimore7195
    @mattbaltimore7195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Even i liked the grotesque aesthetics of it, i'm really glad this one failed and will never be fixed because we already have enough floodgates in modern YGO and it's for the better.....

    • @leojamesquiambao1047
      @leojamesquiambao1047 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, funny how many people in the comments section want this Archetype to be good. Playing against floodgate turbo is fun, innit? S

  • @gravethestampede3454
    @gravethestampede3454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Even with the bad maintenance costs, if the pendulum scales weren't so bad maybe they would have been decent. You can play copies of Pendulum Switch to help bypass the maintenance cost though.

    • @azuredragoon2054
      @azuredragoon2054 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      When you can't even enable the summon your own boss monster, you're a bad archetype.

    • @Stinkoman87
      @Stinkoman87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@azuredragoon2054 That's why Majespecter Unicorn was used way more outside of Majespecter decks.

  • @Rabbitlord108
    @Rabbitlord108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Oh my god. TH-cam's bot problem is only getting worse.

  • @YuseiTheSynchroHero
    @YuseiTheSynchroHero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I remember Goliath, Lechery, and Sloth being occasional tech cards in OTHER decks. Goliath in Dragon decks when combined with Arkbrave Dragon for example. Ending on a board WITH Goliath to lock out the Extra Deck
    Some Pendulum Magician decks used Sloth as an end board piece to lock out the opponent's Extra Deck.
    And I vaguely remember Lechery being used somewhere alongside something like Sloth or Goliath. Since you'd have either face up, Lechery was just a literal NOPE to any Spell or Spell effects.
    And that's about it from my memory (if we don't count the Ritual Amorphactor)

    • @colinduchilio4052
      @colinduchilio4052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The level 2s could be teched into Dragunity - you could use Atum to summon a big guy from deck, and Gae Deargh added the 2s

  • @tri33208
    @tri33208 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Damn dallas even catching strays in a yugioh vids it seems to be the only thing they can catch

  • @williamdrum9899
    @williamdrum9899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Never noticed how kickass their artwork is. Each dragon has a virus clamped to its back.

    • @Symptomofsynesthesy
      @Symptomofsynesthesy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a simple virus, it's a bacteriophage or simply a phage!

    • @azurephantom100
      @azurephantom100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      kind of the virus is making regular monsters into dragons like the artwork in the spell amorphage infection greed is and lechery were the scorpion and hedgehog only small parts of what they used to be is left

    • @Depressed_Spider
      @Depressed_Spider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@azurephantom100 Yep, the artworks are showing the creatures MID TRANSFORMATION.
      Eugh.....

  • @saltyk9869
    @saltyk9869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I was listening to this while doing something else. And I haven’t played Yugioh in years, but have kept up with the game thanks to channels like this. And I still caught the Achilles Heel before you said it. I mean a Pendulum deck that can’t Pendulum Summon is half dead right out the gate.

  • @thedragonauthority
    @thedragonauthority 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the relation to their names and the 7 deadly sins.

    • @jeremybrown9611
      @jeremybrown9611 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Guess it was a low hanging fruit

    • @thedragonauthority
      @thedragonauthority 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jeremybrown9611 it's the kind of thing he likes to usually mention. Lore and stuff.

    • @leojamesquiambao1047
      @leojamesquiambao1047 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's for the unknown side series to discuss

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Goddamn, the Cowboys are even getting roasted on a Yugioh channel.🤣
    Starry Knights could probably qualify for one of these. They're a neat idea, but it'd be great if the archetype didn't revolve entirely around special summoning their boss monster from the hand and not anywhere else.

  • @OlgaZuccati
    @OlgaZuccati 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    to be fair, spheres tribute for goliath was one of the most annoying things to deal with when you were playing against dragon link back then.

  • @minatoarisato3181
    @minatoarisato3181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    terrible scale's and the link monster's killed this deck.

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is definitely the most interesting archetype so far. My biggest problem with a series like this taking such a negative view on these decks is that every other deck that's been covered at least functions. They may not be good, but calling them failures seems overly harsh when the gameplan can come together rather nicely just not in meta play. Amorphage's have so much potential, but it is insane how many arbitrary limitations the deck gets saddled with just from some overcautious card design. Would honestly love to see at least a few more cards maybe even something like the training wheels we got for Malefics as long as its locked into the archetype I don't see the harm in throwing this decrepit, non-functioning pendulum deck something resembling decent synergy since there ain't no way it'll even be rogue with all those restrictions ontop of the newer restrictions on Pendulums with the modern rules

  • @ZeroNeedsCoffee
    @ZeroNeedsCoffee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Make one about Ojamas please?

  • @WolfDB
    @WolfDB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "They're like the Dallas Cowboys of the Yu-Gi-Oh world!"
    Mmmm nah, at least the Cowboys have SOME success in their history. This is more like the Cleveland Browns

    • @friendship5293
      @friendship5293 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nahh he's right, the Browns are just... Bad. No one expects them to be good (Sans this year of course!)

  • @Izzy-rh7br
    @Izzy-rh7br 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dallas cowboys reference in a YGO video was unexpectedly hilarious.

  • @fungi1385
    @fungi1385 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Next archtype Nephthys, even if it has been my pet deck for yearS i still think 1 on nephthys would be cool

    • @christopherfeatherley
      @christopherfeatherley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nephthys are actually fairly decent, even in this modern meta. It's one of my favourite decks to play, only you shouldn't play it pure 😅 a lot of the Pringle level 2 Nephthys cards are slow, so i'll have to agree that it's a failed mechanic (I only play Desciple of Nephthys)

  • @skotiaH2O
    @skotiaH2O 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Gosh, the bots are really everywhere.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. It's frustrating and DISGUSTING!

    • @barubary218
      @barubary218 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ??? What bots what??

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@barubary218 A couple of bots appeared in the comments section of this video. And the fact that TH-cam is okay with it happening here (And the sections of other videos) is DISGUSTING!

  • @sithmaster4305
    @sithmaster4305 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was not expecting Cowboys slander in my yugioh video but i'm all for it.

  • @traplover6357
    @traplover6357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im glad this archetype wasnt good 😂. Idk what Konami was cooking up with this card.

  • @a1rg3ar31
    @a1rg3ar31 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ways I would make the archetype better.
    1. New monsters with effects that activate upon leaving the field by a card effect, and a better version of that effect if it was from an Amorphage card's effect. Also, give them pendulum scales of 1 and 9.
    2. Swarming and more searching that ignore the Amorphage floodgates. Like, seriously, why does this deck have no swarming?
    3. Some form of negation protection that's not obnoxiously overpowered, but still reliable.
    4. A Link monster that's either an extender or helps with swarming. With how slow this deck is, maybe it could get away with a Link-1, but it should probably be restricted to only being summonable once per turn, depending on how good it is.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idea for a new “Amorphage Infector” monster that’s based off of the little virus looking things that turn other monsters into Amorphage ones:
    _Amorphage Infector_ (EARTH)
    Level 1
    Pendulum Scales: 0⬅️➡️0
    _Once per turn, you can declare the name of 1 “Amorphage” Pendulum monster from your hand or that you control: Until the draw phase of your next turn, this card gains that declared monster’s Pendulum Effects and Scales. If a monster(s) in your hand or you control is Tributed, or destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your Pendulum Zones._
    Machine/Pendulum/Effect
    _If an “Amorphage” card you control is tributed or destroyed by battle or card effect: You can special summon this card from your hand or face-up from your extra deck. Can make additional attacks per battle phase, and gains 250 ATK/DEF, equal to the number of face-up “Amorphage” cards you control. If this card is destroyed by an opponent’s monster (by battle or card effect); You can equip this card to that monster, and if you do, you take control of it while this card is equipped to it._
    ATK/250 DEF/250

  • @DramaticCrossroad
    @DramaticCrossroad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    kinda sad all this amazing art getting wasted on subpar cards, (kinda like Duel Terminal all over again)

  • @horchataguy91
    @horchataguy91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That cowboys stray..and I’m an Eagles fan like woah a football reference in a yugioh channel 😂😂😂

  • @s7121n9s
    @s7121n9s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really wanted this deck to be sooo good. I love the concept of the deadly sins. I hope it gets more support or some sort of change to the archetype to make it viable

  • @CaptainJLinebeck
    @CaptainJLinebeck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly I'm fine with this archetype staying bad. We've already got enough oppressive floodgate effects running around as is

  • @leojamesquiambao1047
    @leojamesquiambao1047 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Top 10 Worst classic cards 7: Ancient Sanctuary, or Top 10 Worst Warrior type monsters
    For the non top 10 list: The Unknown side of Yu-Gi-Oh: Beasts of the Colliseum featuring Gladiator Beasts

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok, so Amorphage monsters are supposed to be corrupted versions of pre-existing creatures, right?
    One way the archetype can be fixed is by leaning into that, with a new Amorphage monster of each main monster type, symbolizing a monster of that type being infected and mutated after being defeated…
    We could have names like:
    Amorphage Pyre (Pyro)
    Amorphage Torrent (Aqua)
    Amorphage Heresy (Divine-Beast)
    And so on and so fourth…

    • @azurephantom100
      @azurephantom100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they would need to be able to fix the scale issues as well as allowing for copying the effect for the desired lock downs as to fix the scale needs to remove one of the lock down effects. as well as some protection or hell some work arounds for more flexibility

  • @martynkalendar
    @martynkalendar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    at least goliath was good in blue-eyes :p

  • @takashitaisho1926
    @takashitaisho1926 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nothing like special summon Goliath with the hieratic sphere link after bouncing your opponent normal summon. 🤙🏻

  • @seiffffff
    @seiffffff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    balls

  • @catsorafgc
    @catsorafgc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh wow, this seems very jank and not worth playing at all.
    *proceeds to buy play sets of all the cards*

  • @mrnewvegas2584
    @mrnewvegas2584 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I heard the cowboys joke the only thing I could do was sigh and say to myself “yea…yea”

  • @Broseftoast
    @Broseftoast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the first time I caught one of your videos when you just posted. Just wanted to save I love your channel man, gives me nostalgia and also I’m just a nerd and I love all the logic behind these cards even though I don’t play I watch your mtg one too and sometimes your wow channel they’re all good man keep it up

  • @765infinity
    @765infinity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IMO amorphages aren't that bad...in the context of MR3 when you can pendulum summon as much as you want from the ED. The problem is, and is frankly the case with 90% of the pendulum archetypes released pre MR4, that they rely on the sole mechanic of tribute/destroy your own cards and bring them back. For what they were at the time, they were balanced. Yes you have bonkers floodgates but in order rto maintain them you have steep costs. But when you take away the ability to pendulum summon as much as you want, the the deck kind of just dies. And it's not the only deck that was like this. Ignights, Magispectors, performapal pendulum, Metalfoes, Qli, zefra, and amorphages all kind of died immediately upon rule change, and if they became playable at all depended on future support working around the new limitations. Basically, without new stuff to make them payable, the only coherant pendulum deck was THE pendulum deck, the pendulum magician good stuff deck. Every other deck that actually cared about pendulum summoning (as opposed to just having pendulum monsters like lunalights and D/D/D) got killed by the fact you couldn't freely pendulum summon from the extra deck, because they were so poorly future proofed for the next immediate rule change that the only thing that most pendulum decks did at the time was now something they could not do easily. It took specifically made link monster training wheels to have individual pend decks again

    • @hermitxIII
      @hermitxIII 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good take.

  • @RedEyeKing313X
    @RedEyeKing313X 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro had to make this video after getting floodgated by this archetype 💀

  • @cr1tikal899
    @cr1tikal899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My first card i ever got was an amorphage monster lol

  • @pptemplar5840
    @pptemplar5840 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been cooking with this pure occasionally for years, MR 4/4.5 absolutely destorys this deck's longevity.
    Basically either play Dragon Gate or ignore them entirely.

  • @senny-
    @senny- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank God they failed. The idea behind the deck is pretty toxic

  • @Holly-khore-levina
    @Holly-khore-levina 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly I feel like what this deck really could have benefited from (besides just better scales to work with) was either an archtype-specific means of influencing scales like Yosenju Shinchu R or the Star-Timegazer magicians where you get better scales for sticking to the Archetype... or a card that allowed you do something else besides tribute to keep monsters on the field. Something in the vein of the Kokai Meiru cards.
    Also possibly either a boss monster or something to that effect that added an extra wrinkle towards the floodgates. Either making them go from Vanity to Majesty monsters (read: only locking your opponent out of them) or making it so that the pendulum effects become their monster effects, increasing the range of flood-gates you can have out.

  • @gijakob
    @gijakob 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Dallas Cowboys of Yugioh” is a fantastic analogy 😆

  • @danielcain8136
    @danielcain8136 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stand proud Amorphage you are strong.

  • @FrinniferFran
    @FrinniferFran 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:58 You didn’t NEED to speak those Facts. But you’ve made it your god given mission to do so, wtf Mr. Logs

  • @totenkopf8814
    @totenkopf8814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Igknights are giga chads favorite deck though 🗿

  • @Lightstation_
    @Lightstation_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The design of the monsters are so unique but...the man.

  • @nophion2-electricboogaloo647
    @nophion2-electricboogaloo647 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when these were announced. Around my locals people acted like they were the strongest stuff ever and would conquer the meta.
    And then they were absolutely useless filth.

  • @dmtrsgrksrphl2501
    @dmtrsgrksrphl2501 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These actually belong to a story involving Dracoslayers, Dracoverlords, Igknights, Majespecters and Dinomists fyi

  • @ArcheTelos
    @ArcheTelos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They really made a Pendulum deck that's bad at everything that made the Pendulum mechanic strong to begin with

  • @258thHiGuy
    @258thHiGuy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amorphactor pain goes hard in Drytron though

  • @victorgamez8885
    @victorgamez8885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cowboys fans always taking Ls thats crazy

  • @jinkazama7587
    @jinkazama7587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sloth/Goliath is pretty strong in Ninjas with Super Transformation lol

  • @1909Fredde
    @1909Fredde 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @TheDuelLogs How strong has a normal monster as a beatstick has to be to see competitive play? Is that even possible nowadays. would a normal monster beatstick see competitive play with such stats Level 4 5000atk/5000 def?

  • @crystalite-thecritic9396
    @crystalite-thecritic9396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would've been way better if they were "soft" floodgates, only restricting you to 2 cards you can add from the deck to your hand or 2 monster that can be summoned from the extra deck each turn. This would've made them way more interactable, easier to work around, gives them the chance to receive support and build up a medium board without negates to have a good back and forth with way easier upkeep and a few new guidelines to play by

  • @BlackBeartic229
    @BlackBeartic229 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Certainly people don't think a literal autopilot full floodgate.dek should be good right?
    This deck was made bad on purpose and should stay like that. This isn't one of those "unfortunate accidents" this is actually very fortunate.

  • @paulmonroy6534
    @paulmonroy6534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That random cowboys stray made my day.

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:07 When are we getting videos for Ignknights, Magical Musketeer or Subterror?

    • @some2043
      @some2043 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we migt not get the ighknights for 2 reasons
      they were a force to be reconed with at mr3
      infernoble uses 2 of their scale they have searchers for lv4 fires
      usually i don't accept 2 card as a save from failed but when they are the worst cards in the archetype "the freaking vanilas that seach a fire warrior at a -1"

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@some2043 I mean, either DuelLogs' criteria is REALLY harsh (to the point i can see him putting the Hands as part of Failed archetype, and say "they were only good thanks to Traptrix and Artifacts".... heck I can see DuelLogs put artifacts in the failed mechanic too).
      Or at this point it feels like this category is just "excuse to talk about any deck that wasn't Minimum tier 1 at their prime"
      So we could get Igknight sooner or later

  • @MarkShockker
    @MarkShockker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m surprised you’re not talking about Earthbound immortal yet.

  • @darkwolf9637
    @darkwolf9637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can we get one for mayakashi or the fusion side of lunalight.
    I love mayakashi but it's impossible to make them playable without making them gimmicky and boring with bone tower or the shiranui mayakashi trap, and lunalight got completely separated from its original mechanic they're really good but only if you never do what they were designed for.

    • @BlackBeartic229
      @BlackBeartic229 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sad thing is bone tower ain't even good lmao.
      The trap however... yeah that's just unfortunate. Hoping they get a core set big legacy wave at some point since Mayakashi still hasn't (and Shiranui got theirs at the beginning of Link Era and it wasn't even that good)

  • @windmirror7083
    @windmirror7083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What hurt this deck? Besides lack of support
    1) Their scales. Half of their monsters are outside of their scales so you cant pendulum summon them back. In order to get the ones outside your scales in play, typically required you to tribute them. Which you wont keep for long since you gotta pay that maintenance cost next turn. So their only useful for 1 turn usually
    2) MR4. While the maintenace effect of the scales were fine due to the spamming output of pendulums before MR4, now you are limited to link zones. And hey guess what, they have no links they can make since their monsters lock you into Amorphage essentially just by you taking any action summoning them. This also means the recovery is also extremely diminished. On top of that, the spell/trap utility is very limited. Going from 7 to 5 now, of which 2 is dedicated to your pendulum zone, 2 to your continuous spell/traps so now you have 1 alone to work with
    3) Its extremely xenophobic. It hard locks you into just itself. On top of that, it doesnt even work with its lore associated archetypes, being Dracoverlord. Your stat boost and floodgate cards would cripple them from taking full use of them. It also lacks synergy in some areas. Such as the field spell cant be searched in-archetype, nor the Amorphactor it searches. Lysis replacing your pendulum scales, does not stop them from making you pay its cost, because, guess what, its still the standby phase 9/10 times you get to use the effect
    4) Recovery...now after MR3 there are little ways to recover your cards outside of cards not searchable within your own archetype...so no consistency. On top of that Lysis, which was suppose to help mitigate your maintenance costs tends to miss timing. Once your monsters are stuck in the ED, they tend to just stay there as you can no longer spam pendulums, nor utilize link monsters zones
    5) Interaction...they lack it. Sure they gain advantage with Infection and their field spell, sure, but remember, you essentially have 1 spell/trap zone to work with, so have fun. But really, they have no in-archetype way to get rid of your opponent's cards outside of battle. Truly a floodgate deck and nothing else

  • @gammagong9435
    @gammagong9435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    See, fixing them wouldn't be too terribly difficult.
    4 link monsters. Their effects can be, for the most part, whatever you want with 1 caveat; They all have the following effect: 'While you control this face up card, all monsters you control/in your extra deck are treated as 'Amorphage' monsters.'
    For flavor, name them after the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. We've already got the sins.

  • @makokx7063
    @makokx7063 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "whose levels are equal to or exceed 8"
    ⭐≥ 8
    This is probably what I hate most about Yu-Gi-Oh. They use a mountain of text for simple concepts and write everything out instead of just making ability names like in magic. A single yugioh deck has more text than a college textbook.

  • @Secr3tYT
    @Secr3tYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been working on a water dragon cluster deck for like the past week, specifically for the fireking and snakeyes. Ive tried labrynth with rollback and bonding-dho to summon water dragon cluster. Ive tried pure water dragon with trade-in and sacred sword of seven stars with a small dino pack. Kairyu-shin & water dragons, but i think the most consistent so far has been water dragon/icejade. Mermails are good too. The bonding/chemical archetype needs support so badly. 😅 I'd appreciate any help if anyone more well-versed in ice jade than i am could help me out. I know theres better anti-pyro/fire decks, but water dragon and water dragon clusters effects are really good... water dragon/bonding needs support asap to combat fireking snake eyes

  • @DaeronRT
    @DaeronRT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only support I can think of it could be a couple of Link Monster (Amorphage Link 1, Link 2 and maybe link 3 all pointing Down). A new Field Speel that searches on activation with a similar effect like Dragonic Diagram. Even with that, it still hard to play it soe yea, good luck hoping that

  • @satyayana1399
    @satyayana1399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my experience trying amorphage, i come to this conclusion : the cost too hefty and the level too diverse to maintain both scale. so i figure i had to use 1 scale only (PS 3 amorphage + PS 7 or 8 generic pend or PS 1 generic pend + PS 5 amorphage)
    amorphage gonna need support. for example, PS1 and PS8, maintenance substitution / annuling card and link

  • @Neko_Medic
    @Neko_Medic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They really took the seven deadly sins and made them overrated and boring.
    Just like the anime of the same name after season 1

  • @nulllex0099
    @nulllex0099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might be missing sth but this seems so easy to fix if only all lvl 4 and lower ones were scale 9 and the lvl 5+ were scale 2. Then you keep bringing them out, tributing one, and being weak to monster destruction is actually a fair trade given they basically exist to not let anyone do anything.
    Oh and yeah, the backrow needs a name change; a deck made to stop absolutely everything except itself absolutely has to include its parts within the exception

  • @hermitxIII
    @hermitxIII 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seals > summon Goliath. You now have artifact scythe. Why so many people miss this I have no idea. Also Victor's scripts are still bad. Bring the other guy back.

  • @redblood421
    @redblood421 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the best thing for the deck would just be a couple of consistency. Like a spell that said look at your opponent hand or top 5 cards of their deck. Then add of amorphage monster from deck to hand maybe a hard once per turn depending on power level. Then a link 1 or 2 that could revive itself. And summon tokens during the draw or standby phase.

  • @kishinasura1504
    @kishinasura1504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thing is, this guys will probably never get support.
    Why? Because if Knoami messes up they could create a terrible archetype that floodgates the opponent very easily, and then will have to ban it immediately.

  • @easylemon2547
    @easylemon2547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait is that the selling point of these pre done food delivery services, which I never understood? It’s so you don’t have left overs like you do with the way cheaper and freshly cooked option? I mean ok, but how do they actually make enough profit with that to invest into ads? That’s still amazing to me, I love that for them ngl

  • @dustincochran8314
    @dustincochran8314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally love Gimmick Puppets and I hope they get more support in the future, would you consider them a failed archetype though? Would love yall's thoughts on this ^.^

  • @mfznal-hafidz8592
    @mfznal-hafidz8592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They suffer the same fate as magical musket. low Atk but the broken thing is they can activate their spell/trap from hand during opponent's turn. Maybe konami just want to balance these things.

  • @lukegreaves574
    @lukegreaves574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they wanted this deck to work they should have made all the pendulum scales 1 and 9 or make all the monsters level 4. Then make a consistent way to get them back from the extra deck back into your hand so you could cycle the floodgates pendulum effects. The maintenance cost isn't really the issues as they allow you a free and easy way to change out for a different floodgates of you wanted to. But it's for the best it failed, every floodgate easily accessible and constantly able to change. And not giving them a link monster to make them work once links hit the game means even Konami doesn't think they are worth saving

  • @vampireguy92ryan81
    @vampireguy92ryan81 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its unfortunate that the 5 scales werent a 9 scale and the fact that u needed to tribute your scales or monsters killed the deck. Instead of giving them 100 per card. It shouldve been 100x their own lvl which wouldve made it so they could beat over most things.

  • @Bezaliel13
    @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, I get it. You are supposed to use other cards, despite their lockdown, like how they are draconic mutations of nondragons. Pity competitive prefers pure... for some reason.

  • @vla1ne
    @vla1ne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of those decks that was hobbled so badly that it _deserves_ legacy support, but is literally too breakable to ever make playable. It is every floodgate, at any time, and i cannot justify breathing life back into a deck that's so likely to suck the soul out of anyone facing it.
    As tragic as it may be, i agree that this deck deserves to stay down.

  • @km_1911
    @km_1911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do pure Subterror next? It would actually be very interesting hearing how Subterror evolved from a terrible deck to meta by adjusting how it was played.

  • @sirlungolas600
    @sirlungolas600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it bad if I main this deck?
    I find the act of frantically shoveling coal into a furnace while hoping I locked down the right cards enjoyable. Also the turns are short so that's a bonus!

  • @PortCityBalrog
    @PortCityBalrog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember about 4 years or so ago this deck was crazy strong in Ranked in Duel Links......nm i thought these were the free to play healing plants the names are quite similar if your not paying attention

  • @Linkwii64
    @Linkwii64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is when KONAMI Yu-Gi-Oh still design give cards with drawback, unlike today cards design no drawback.

  • @chazzitz-wh4ly
    @chazzitz-wh4ly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Being hyped… that you’re good, then realizing you’re a failure.”
    Damn, DuelLogs getting personal out here. Hit me right in the feels.

  • @moh.syafrianabie8899
    @moh.syafrianabie8899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amorphus

  • @walkerpierce5446
    @walkerpierce5446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about instead they do an Armorphage Archetype. Where it literally spreads throughout the board like a virus and does various things to your opponents monsters all revolving around their defense points and even spreading into their spell zones if left unchecked for too long.

  • @redwardranger7034
    @redwardranger7034 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hated this archetype ever since I matched up to it with my D Hero Plasma deck. We ended up in a very long game and I ended up losing the duel, time and my sanity. I won the match but man, I was so mad abiut that 28 minute duel

  • @GuardianGrarl
    @GuardianGrarl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But don't forget their greatest strength...
    They helped this video happen.

  • @genesis4322
    @genesis4322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The scales in this deck really is it's biggest issue. I tried playing this deck a few times back in the day but not being able to pendulum summon more than half the deck makes it super hard to build any sort of board.

  • @Orlenius
    @Orlenius 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad this archetype didn't end up being good. The theme is a really cool idea being a nice spiritual successor to Evilswarm and the artworks are really cool.

  • @uaeoaeoeoi
    @uaeoaeoeoi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst part about the deck is that, to make it at least playable, the only requirements would be to set the levels and scales to work properly and flip the effects so the archetypal extra deck lock is the pendulum effect and the effect with an upkeep cost are the monster effects.

  • @pulsefel9210
    @pulsefel9210 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the best cards to put in your scales are the ones stopping monster and spells. your opponent will only be able to use traps and a normal summon their first turn and have to pray you cant pay the cost. getting two or three level 4 and/or another to normal summon and you got both guard and a mystic mine/imperial order combo set.

  • @lorenztor1990
    @lorenztor1990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Amorphage cards just lost their unreasonable upkeep, they still wouldn't be the best or even good but at least they would be playable.