Ya but to be fair it's the people who don't watch videos like this or read Sunday Times etc. The loyal voters of the ANC and the MK rely on maybe word of mouth or their pastor etc. They not getting new information. Maybe they are stuck in their thinking.
The issue is the alternative, there isn't one they are all the same. All politicians want power and that power equates to money .Politicians want to be kings while claiming to be servants of the people.
Unfortunately the politicians tell the people they will get grant if they vote for the anc, but not all of them know that it's not the government playing thier grant but the tax payers and currently if I'm not correct there's something like 7% tax payers and about double the amount of Gants being paid out,in other words the government need to get the money from somewhere else to pay all the grants
@annalexander7722 We can use our voice, as well as the voices, media and platforms such as this, to drive the point. The more voices, the greater the pressure. Eventually, this will have to be listened to...
@ it just makes me so angry 😠 - I know it doesn’t serve me well, especially as an aged lady (you know mos the high blood pressure and stuff 😂😂😂). But I try. I try, knowing (and happy) that my time on this earth is nearing its end, and and then ‘no more KAK’
South Africans should get together and change the salaries of government, and give a small basic and any bonus is incentive based!!!!, I'm not even shitting you, if they work for us, then when did we agree that they have such high salaries???!!!!
The part most are missing, is that the people paying for their medical aid are ALREADY paying for public healthcare with their taxes. Medical aid is a DOUBLE PAYMENT for health care over and above the monies taken from taxes for healthcare
What is sad , is that people vote the ANC in, in 1994 knowing full well that they a communist organisation. But you voted with emotion for liberation. That vote put the ship in motion, the ANC knew that they would be implementing all these things. MK and EFF are very much the same, so as long as people vote for "liberation" they should not cry. in a communist world the citizen has no liberation
@@Kusanagi7618 we always have a choice, I am coloured and many of us knew, that we would be done in by the ANC, for it was also just liberation. Now that same coloureds want to start their own parties, all they see is a pay check. We need to wake up.
Great contribution from Panuel. These pubic servants violate every framework of the Public Service Act, 1994, without a care in the world. Many of them probably never read the act, or at most, simply scoff at the workshops meant to enlighten them about public service. Either way, it's an ANC legacy. Everything they touch turns into rot.
Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable
Thank you Thomas, people need to hear this and how the people have been neglected due to the comrades greed. Think of all the sectors they have willingly destroyed while they live it up.
30 years in power and ANC government is still playing victim card and continuing blaming everything on apartheid. I'm a black person and these politicians are just a shame in our country.
As a health care worker employed in the government sector I propose a way forward: Make all our salaries a performance based salary. Do away with the fact that you can get paid your whole salary while you sit at work and do nothing.
Waaaaahhhh... In this country? People are buying Phds here and you think the performance evaluation will be fair. We had a dodgy failure put forward as our Justice Minister by our president. Imagine your boss with some fake qualifications doing your performance review... This won't work.
@@jn8922 that's the problem with the whole government system and why public healthcare is in shambles. Even the system they put in place to assess performance of government employees, the so called EPMDS, doesn't work. The system is designed to fail.
Sad indeed very sad.we the people are to be blame for the mess we experience right now.iare south african voters the only ones who keep voting for these celebrities who keep doing wrong things or are voters all around the world the same.
And people defend this thing hard saying its time for equality like do these people know how much money we pay for health care especially if you add in family it's too much. Doesn't help public hospital they are already struggling there few doctors plus nurses and some you aren't able to drink the water. Yet they aren't trying to fix this we have unemployed doctors who can't find a job because the government have no money to provide them
On some of the issues that Penuel raised, kudus to you man, 100% on target. But where he says the the poor people dont know the channels to complain i dont agree because it is these same "poor" and gullible people who will vote the useless politicians back in power because they get a Tshirt and KFC and a small hamper which will last maybe a month or less.
Hi Mr Mabaso, it would be quite interesting for you if you could look at the GNU at present. The ANC did not win the elections and yet they claim to be the leaders in parliament when we the society was given the impression that the GNU was POWER SHARING with no one party leading the other. Now the ANC who claims to be the leader in parliament is signing all kinds of bills that suits them and not the broader South African population and then they want to implement the National Democratic Revolution a ANV policy. What about the other parties? Dont they have equal say in the parliament and in governing the country? The ANC has won a greater percentage but that does not mean they are the heads of government. The GNU is a coalition of political parties with an equal say in the running of the country and why then is the ANC doing as if they are the government? The ANC must be called out for this false narrative. They are not the leaders in government, they share an equal voice in the running of the country and they are not more important than the other parties, all parties are as important and this fact must be made clear to the ANC
@seggienaicker9302 Point well made, 👌🏽 Except, we have the problem of smaller parties cuddling up to the ANC, when they should be using their opportunity to support the "opposition" in the GNU. The historic stranglehold of the ANC is being supported by the so called "smaller" parties who are selling out.
Penuel: When you ask why are govt employees allowed to use private health care, instead of public health care.... Of course, the reality is that it's possible!! Go back and look at how e-tolls were implemented - every govt dept and SOE were forced to pay tolls for all govt vehicles including Senior management, when implemented. Therefore, you point is absolutely possible. 👌🏽
You must see he ow they treat nurses in private hospitals. They are for ever complaining. They want vip treatment go forgetting that the poor nurse have a lot of patients to look after.😢
Thomas I love your channel and ensure I like everytime I watch and and I've made a point of watching almost all your videos and will continue to do so. I love your authenticity. Hope to see you soon at 1mil followers. Now, there are times that Penuel makes sense and this is one of them as he describes the shortfalls of the ANC over the past 30 years or so - but when he draws the race card it makes me cringe. I'm over the race card being thrown around so loosely in SA and I equalize this to intentional division or separation amongst the different races . The politicians do enough of this - Its enough! Entitlement by 'privilege' is not necessarily racism it can been seen as 'lack of empathy' or 'selfishness' or a number of other things - not necessarily always racism. Let's promote goodwill instead and always. Yes racism unfortunately does exist, I don't understand it and I'm sure I never will. When my thoughts drift to trying to understand this I begin to pin it and use 'ignorance' as a definition. My heart goes to anyone who has ever experienced prejudice - I too have experienced it but still I don't understand it mainly because it makes no logical sense to me. We are one species, so what's the problem. I am not going to allow anyone's opinion of me define me. I know who I am. The fact remains that the ANC took a amazing and almost impossible ideology 30 years ago and made it a reality - the end of apartheid, fantastic! But they have since messed up "big time" and innocent folk, old and new generations sit in this current circumstances because of fat cat ANC greed and arrogance. This is no longer a generational past influence because if the ANC had made progress in the 1st 20 years - today everyone would be happy.
In addition to Penuel' suggestions t hat governmment employees be prohibited from using private hospitals and buying shares of private hospitals, government subsidy of private hospitals and clinics be stopped.
I dont look forward to seeing the faces of my employees when 3 to 4k per month comes off their salaries for nhi or how what was their 13th cheque now goes to that gaay little fund. Back to shacks for you lads
Thomas...our Dr's (all races) will leave this country!! They want our private Dr's to work for the state and they will pay the Dr's!! They cannot pay now...how the hell will They pay our Dr's???
Incorrect. The NHI was in the pipeline for a number of years,and cannot be blamed on GNU which is in existence for 7 months.ANC signs in unfavorable laws against the wishes of their GNU partners
@@Firstnation-r6s oh please how long have they thrown it around years and years. It should have been nipped in the bud at the first mention. But no they swept it under the rug praying it would disappear. So yes they weren't told that he would be signing it that day. I suppose any excuse Is better than none. I am blaming DA. They are useless absolutely no back bone. The country has been in crises mode for years and all John can say how badly they were treated. Shame grow up do what you are paid to do.
@@carolb8452 I'm now really curious.Just change your wording slightly.I can read between the lines.CR will do as he please, because he knows his days are numbered in government.Leaving us to repeal nonsensical laws
GEMS is for State Employees, I would not compare it with other private medical aids. About 1.5 million South Africans belongs to GEPF, state pension fund. Most of them we belong to GEMS. I am totally questioning this racial percentages. NO, they do not pay for cosmetic procedures. It is not the public servants who causes these disasters, it is the politicians, specifically ANC politicians making the policies.
Dear Penual. Your stats is not correct as the ratio is that the 9% is actually much more than the 30% because you are using percentage not actual people.
Guys reality is non of thos matters. With amc how it is and what thry have done continue to do , ita too late to try hope, speak ,ralk bout better future. Rsa in 2027 will be just another brokwn african cou try and ramaphosa n his friends will be living over seas.
Penuel, but racism isnt one sided , we have all been victims of racistvremarks and horrible things being chanted there. Thenhurt and offence is just the same. It has to stop, but how
What is the % of white people in sa? What is the % of black people in sa? Do your maths again and work out the % out of people who have medical aid. Black and white
Penuel usually has important topics that help us come to terms with complex issues related to our country. But he betrays his efforts with this strong language and inadvertently excludes an entire group of people who don’t like it and others who can only watch with children in the room, it’s a pity because these are important discussions. Thanks ta Thomas for showing his content, but maybe because you are showing it second hand, maybe you can take some time to sensor the language and make it more listenable? 🙏🏾 Otherwise great work outie yami!
Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable.
Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable.
"You can't be selling a product that you don't want for your own children".. Powerful💪🏾
The politicians or the employees ?
Don't blame the politicians put the blame on the people that vote for them. PLEASE WAKE UP!!!
💯 correct. Most ignorant and uninformed voters ,vote based on emotions not on logic
Anyone who votes like "But such and such party is all I know" shouldn't vote
How some people still support these politicians is an utter disgrace!!!!!
Ya but to be fair it's the people who don't watch videos like this or read Sunday Times etc. The loyal voters of the ANC and the MK rely on maybe word of mouth or their pastor etc. They not getting new information. Maybe they are stuck in their thinking.
The issue is the alternative, there isn't one they are all the same. All politicians want power and that power equates to money .Politicians want to be kings while claiming to be servants of the people.
Thomas...I love your show...straight forward....keep it up!! YOU ROCK!!!!
1000% true. Still the people keep on voting for them. This is very sad. 😢😢😢
Unfortunately the politicians tell the people they will get grant if they vote for the anc, but not all of them know that it's not the government playing thier grant but the tax payers and currently if I'm not correct there's something like 7% tax payers and about double the amount of Gants being paid out,in other words the government need to get the money from somewhere else to pay all the grants
Why are they still voting for them? There is a book called "The Bell Curve" which brings a lot of sense to this question.
The ANC messed up everything and continue to do so.
I have huge faith in Trump and let's hope he puts enough pressure on the ANC to sort out this beautiful country!!!
How do we FORCE the politicians to use public hospitals and schools? How? Are we just screaming in the wind? Shjo !!
@annalexander7722 We can use our voice, as well as the voices, media and platforms such as this, to drive the point. The more voices, the greater the pressure. Eventually, this will have to be listened to...
@ it just makes me so angry 😠 - I know it doesn’t serve me well, especially as an aged lady (you know mos the high blood pressure and stuff 😂😂😂). But I try. I try, knowing (and happy) that my time on this earth is nearing its end, and and then ‘no more KAK’
@ shame !! Didn’t work and never will. We need to revolt but us SA’s too apathetic 😐 -- just talk, complain, complain
Thomas they want their hands on the money that is all. They have no interest in fixing things or making it beter for poor people.
Cyril does not CARE!!money greed!!
Cyril is the biggest mistake ever
Problem is the ANC behind him too... he's not making his own decisions alone!
@@janomesteve3129his name is not cyril but pinnochio. Look at carefully
Thanks Penuelle spot on!! The cat is out of the bag!!!! Thank you for sharing and caring for our poor people!!! You and Thomas have my vote!!!!
Absolute truth.
Thanks Thomas and Penuell,just wish politicians can think likewise
Just this weekend we were watching the state of health facilities in the eastern cape. It is a disaster disaster disaster
How bad is a disaster ?
Crime increases!!farm murders increases!
South Africans should get together and change the salaries of government, and give a small basic and any bonus is incentive based!!!!, I'm not even shitting you, if they work for us, then when did we agree that they have such high salaries???!!!!
The part most are missing, is that the people paying for their medical aid are ALREADY paying for public healthcare with their taxes. Medical aid is a DOUBLE PAYMENT for health care over and above the monies taken from taxes for healthcare
It will be tripple - paying taxes, NHI and then a medical aid to cover what the NHI is not covering. There will still be items the NHI wont cover..
Spot on!
Penuel and thomas, just love your programmes. You are so real
What is sad , is that people vote the ANC in, in 1994 knowing full well that they a communist organisation. But you voted with emotion for liberation. That vote put the ship in motion, the ANC knew that they would be implementing all these things. MK and EFF are very much the same, so as long as people vote for "liberation" they should not cry. in a communist world the citizen has no liberation
Coz we had a choice, right?
@@Kusanagi7618 we always have a choice, I am coloured and many of us knew, that we would be done in by the ANC, for it was also just liberation. Now that same coloureds want to start their own parties, all they see is a pay check. We need to wake up.
Great contribution from Panuel. These pubic servants violate every framework of the Public Service Act, 1994, without a care in the world. Many of them probably never read the act, or at most, simply scoff at the workshops meant to enlighten them about public service. Either way, it's an ANC legacy. Everything they touch turns into rot.
Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable
Thank you Thomas, people need to hear this and how the people have been neglected due to the comrades greed. Think of all the sectors they have willingly destroyed while they live it up.
...and then they call them Ubaba...
I❤it, you always break it down, see the bigger picture and say it straight forward, not mincing your words. U got my vote!
They thought Trump doesnt now what is going on in this country now they must stand tall 👎👹💯🤣🦍
We just need to pray and have faith corruption needs to stop
Corruption will end once ANC is removed from government.
Prayer and faith? Sorry lady, not gonna help, never has 😂😂😂
Pray & have faith? You will wait f o r e v e r..
Anc cannot fix anything!
30 years in power and ANC government is still playing victim card and continuing blaming everything on apartheid. I'm a black person and these politicians are just a shame in our country.
As a health care worker employed in the government sector I propose a way forward:
Make all our salaries a performance based salary. Do away with the fact that you can get paid your whole salary while you sit at work and do nothing.
Waaaaahhhh... In this country? People are buying Phds here and you think the performance evaluation will be fair. We had a dodgy failure put forward as our Justice Minister by our president. Imagine your boss with some fake qualifications doing your performance review... This won't work.
@@jn8922 that's the problem with the whole government system and why public healthcare is in shambles.
Even the system they put in place to assess performance of government employees, the so called EPMDS, doesn't work.
The system is designed to fail.
Brilliant show, thank you
Sad indeed very sad.we the people are to be blame for the mess we experience right now.iare south african voters the only ones who keep voting for these celebrities who keep doing wrong things or are voters all around the world the same.
And people defend this thing hard saying its time for equality like do these people know how much money we pay for health care especially if you add in family it's too much.
Doesn't help public hospital they are already struggling there few doctors plus nurses and some you aren't able to drink the water.
Yet they aren't trying to fix this we have unemployed doctors who can't find a job because the government have no money to provide them
On some of the issues that Penuel raised, kudus to you man, 100% on target. But where he says the the poor people dont know the channels to complain i dont agree because it is these same "poor" and gullible people who will vote the useless politicians back in power because they get a Tshirt and KFC and a small hamper which will last maybe a month or less.
SA needs you young guys to get in to government… good insight and wisdom…older politicians are clueless
We need a black Trump.
Exactly! Will be very difficult to find one in Sa.
😊😊😊 exactly we definitely need someone like Trump
@sugengovender8083 PA president Gayton will be the man, or Helen Zille, the no nonsense lady.
LOVE Penuel... he's smart, savvy, does his homework, is rational and argues well.
Hi Mr Mabaso, it would be quite interesting for you if you could look at the GNU at present. The ANC did not win the elections and yet they claim to be the leaders in parliament when we the society was given the impression that the GNU was POWER SHARING with no one party leading the other. Now the ANC who claims to be the leader in parliament is signing all kinds of bills that suits them and not the broader South African population and then they want to implement the National Democratic Revolution a ANV policy. What about the other parties? Dont they have equal say in the parliament and in governing the country? The ANC has won a greater percentage but that does not mean they are the heads of government. The GNU is a coalition of political parties with an equal say in the running of the country and why then is the ANC doing as if they are the government? The ANC must be called out for this false narrative. They are not the leaders in government, they share an equal voice in the running of the country and they are not more important than the other parties, all parties are as important and this fact must be made clear to the ANC
@seggienaicker9302 Point well made, 👌🏽
Except, we have the problem of smaller parties cuddling up to the ANC, when they should be using their opportunity to support the "opposition" in the GNU. The historic stranglehold of the ANC is being supported by the so called "smaller" parties who are selling out.
That's the plain truth, I'm a government employee and I don't need anything to do anything to do with government resources, cause I know the problem
Penuel: When you ask why are govt employees allowed to use private health care, instead of public health care....
Of course, the reality is that it's possible!!
Go back and look at how e-tolls were implemented - every govt dept and SOE were forced to pay tolls for all govt vehicles including Senior management, when implemented.
Therefore, you point is absolutely possible. 👌🏽
You must see he ow they treat nurses in private hospitals. They are for ever complaining. They want vip treatment go forgetting that the poor nurse have a lot of patients to look after.😢
Thomas I love your channel and ensure I like everytime I watch and and I've made a point of watching almost all your videos and will continue to do so. I love your authenticity. Hope to see you soon at 1mil followers.
Now, there are times that Penuel makes sense and this is one of them as he describes the shortfalls of the ANC over the past 30 years or so - but when he draws the race card it makes me cringe. I'm over the race card being thrown around so loosely in SA and I equalize this to intentional division or separation amongst the different races . The politicians do enough of this - Its enough! Entitlement by 'privilege' is not necessarily racism it can been seen as 'lack of empathy' or 'selfishness' or a number of other things - not necessarily always racism. Let's promote goodwill instead and always.
Yes racism unfortunately does exist, I don't understand it and I'm sure I never will. When my thoughts drift to trying to understand this I begin to pin it and use 'ignorance' as a definition. My heart goes to anyone who has ever experienced prejudice - I too have experienced it but still I don't understand it mainly because it makes no logical sense to me. We are one species, so what's the problem. I am not going to allow anyone's opinion of me define me. I know who I am.
The fact remains that the ANC took a amazing and almost impossible ideology 30 years ago and made it a reality - the end of apartheid, fantastic! But they have since messed up "big time" and innocent folk, old and new generations sit in this current circumstances because of fat cat ANC greed and arrogance. This is no longer a generational past influence because if the ANC had made progress in the 1st 20 years - today everyone would be happy.
In addition to Penuel' suggestions t hat governmment employees be prohibited from using private hospitals and buying shares of private hospitals, government subsidy of private hospitals and clinics be stopped.
Well said
I think god I never voted for ANC
Keep on voting ANC and it's going to get better hahahaha
I dont look forward to seeing the faces of my employees when 3 to 4k per month comes off their salaries for nhi or how what was their 13th cheque now goes to that gaay little fund. Back to shacks for you lads
Will ramadoos use a public hospital. Loud mouth domkop Motseledi said he has a very expensive medical aid.
Well said..!!
Thomas...our Dr's (all races) will leave this country!! They want our private Dr's to work for the state and they will pay the Dr's!! They cannot pay now...how the hell will They pay our Dr's???
Great info Sir
Incorrect. The NHI was in the pipeline for a number of years,and cannot be blamed on GNU which is in existence for 7 months.ANC signs in unfavorable laws against the wishes of their GNU partners
It was signed into law under their watch
@carolb8452 If you listened to DA and PA,you will hear Ramaphoza went behind their backs to sign it.They only saw on the news that it was signed
@@Firstnation-r6s oh please how long have they thrown it around years and years. It should have been nipped in the bud at the first mention. But no they swept it under the rug praying it would disappear. So yes they weren't told that he would be signing it that day. I suppose any excuse Is better than none. I am blaming DA. They are useless absolutely no back bone. The country has been in crises mode for years and all John can say how badly they were treated. Shame grow up do what you are paid to do.
@Firstnation-r6s l see my comment was deleted. If you ho in your comments you will see my reply.
@@carolb8452 I'm now really curious.Just change your wording slightly.I can read between the lines.CR will do as he please, because he knows his days are numbered in government.Leaving us to repeal nonsensical laws
So true
NHI may be passed only if all people in public office will use public health care hospital and clinics , otherwise its all BS.
Facts but ppl with common sense and wanting a better life ,more fair for all not some are out numbered
We still have 20 years of turmoil.
Bala signed ?.health will be signed too WEF??
Nothing is wrong with politicians schools got principals and public works have managers why can they fix their jobs
💯
GEMS is for State Employees, I would not compare it with other private medical aids.
About 1.5 million South Africans belongs to GEPF, state pension fund. Most of them we belong to GEMS. I am totally questioning this racial percentages.
NO, they do not pay for cosmetic procedures.
It is not the public servants who causes these disasters, it is the politicians, specifically ANC politicians making the policies.
Shares all over !! Just making money money
😡😡😡🤔🤔🙊🙉🙈
The 360
Dear Penual.
Your stats is not correct as the ratio is that the 9% is actually much more than the 30% because you are using percentage not actual people.
Yes… there are MANY more black people on medical aid than minorities.
Their popularity is the saddest thing about SA. Makes u wana say the society is stupid but that's not politically correct
Guys reality is non of thos matters. With amc how it is and what thry have done continue to do , ita too late to try hope, speak ,ralk bout better future. Rsa in 2027 will be just another brokwn african cou try and ramaphosa n his friends will be living over seas.
Penuel, but racism isnt one sided , we have all been victims of racistvremarks and horrible things being chanted there. Thenhurt and offence is just the same. It has to stop, but how
What is the % of white people in sa?
What is the % of black people in sa?
Do your maths again and work out the % out of people who have medical aid. Black and white
Penuel usually has important topics that help us come to terms with complex issues related to our country. But he betrays his efforts with this strong language and inadvertently excludes an entire group of people who don’t like it and others who can only watch with children in the room, it’s a pity because these are important discussions.
Thanks ta Thomas for showing his content, but maybe because you are showing it second hand, maybe you can take some time to sensor the language and make it more listenable? 🙏🏾 Otherwise great work outie yami!
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Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable.
Hospitals in the western cape are actually not that bad!!!! I have family and friends with heart problems, cancer ect. And they have specialists, get regular appointments and medication for free. Each province must be held accountable.