Or make enemy armor rust and make them have -5 or 10% piercing and hack armor 🤷♂️ then you have a good counter vs greek cupper (?) Armor god power @fitzbro
I agree that you normally should do age 3 as soon as pos, but the issue in this game seemed to be more that he was using his spears only as frontline when he had cav killing stuff behind them and could have easily turned and killed them
@@marklebury Egyptian Spearman really aren't powerful enough to defeat Contarius on their own. One to one they go down very fast. Even with Anubis's poison damage.
@@jackskellingtonsora yeh true, it still feels like he messed up there a bit as they were killing his priests and slingers edit: for clarity, im not saying i could have done any better or that the game would have turned out much differently. He definitely should not made that many barracks though.
Honestly if you plan to do age 2 aggression as Egyptian your best option for it is Set. Not only is he much better at scouting thanks to the animals of Set, but his monuments give a discount.
@@TohoBuWaha yeah the only time you'd use them is to target myth units so its a double win for micro also priest don't really do much damage to anything, but myth units, even better if you can micro your injured units to hold ground stance and have the healers in spread formation not far back from the frontline to get a better area affect. Valkryires op if you have them on no attack stance, use them at the last minute when your troops are out of health mostly, not far back from the frontline, priest will heal them much faster. Same for healing springs/temples/isis monument
Asking for if slingers are busted currently or not. I tell you there is one major flaw with slingers - they are way harder to micro and to get into position. Think of an greek army clashing with egyptiak army. Greek have melee infantry and Toxotes. Egypts have melee infantry and slingers. Both melee lines clash, which is okay. But when happens with the ranged? Toxotes see enemy infatry first, so auto attack the melee infantry. Toxotes att+ on infantry, thats good for them, not much more to micro. But same goes for slingers, they also see the enemy melee infantry first and attack them. And thats real bad, cause you want the slingers to attack the toxotes to be effective. You need to micro the slingers all around the frontline to get somewhat in range. Clashing at choke points this is nearly impossible. So in my opinion slingers have a huge deficit here. So make them a bit stronger in general is total fine with me.
super interested in any aom tourments. Also you must have "good" units, because civs, gods, nations what ever need to feel unquie and there is nothing worse then a cool unit being boring or bad. 99.9% of players are bad and this will never affect them cause we need to get good first
@@JD-dg1kj Thats also because he invested all in units meanwhile the gaia player was spending a good amount on upgrades, also the frontline was resisting pretty good and he couldn't just advace with the slingers trying to target the back line becasuse he would have been target of cavalry. I think he should have invested more time into rading and invading the right side of the map pushing the gais player back or getting the third TC on the left side. Too much tunel vision on that middle of the map
Can a ptah into an Horus rush when you feel secure enough works? ,With a focus on barracks units. Could be done on seth or Ra (with Ra having a bigger eco, but less bonus on said units).
07:30 the contarius has not 1, not 2 it has 3 bugs with techs atm... Poseidons secret is 30% cost reduction instead of 15% and both heavy and champion upgrades for the contarius cost only halve as much as they should (the tech tree shows the right amount but its halved ingame).. That plus all the atlantean and gaia buffs is just an ez win button. Its such an unfair advantage to spam out heavy contarius for no ressources with such high speed and stats... And wadjet needs a buff to his micro capabitlity for sure. Its so slow barely microable at all and has 0 hp. Its such a useless myth unit if u dont spam a lot of them and even then they die quite fast...
I want to see MID elo games, because they are much more entertaining than pro games. I don't care at all 'who' the player is or what his ELO or reputation is, I care about watching an entertaining game. They are less concerned with perfect build orders, picking the 'best' pantheons, and equal numbers of units and stutter step dance micro contests, and instead they like making cool units and doing non-optimal but interesting strategies. Games where players are of too low elo just turn into silly comedy though. I would say ELO 900-1400 would be optimum. When I see a heading such as 'number one player vs number two player' I just think 'oh that is going to be boring I'm not going to watch that'. Honestly I just want to see games where unusual tactics and units are used, or games where there are massive swings, such as a game I played myself recently where I lost 67 villagers and still came back and won. As soon as a pro player gets a slight disadvantage or loss, they often just resign.
You see some hysterical shit in low elo too. Friends and I watched a 3v3 where a Greek player looked like he was trolling his team for the first 20 minutes. His teammates were getting pushed in, then we check out his base and find that he has 5 temples with 70 villagers split between only food and favor. He literally just autoqued an army of only hydras and steamrolled the game. We were dying
@@beawulf9 Yeah, that makes my point where I said 'games where players are of too low elo just turn into silly comedy'. But like you also said, there was nothing happening for 20 minutes..... I would still prefer low elo game to a pro or tournament game, those are the least entertaining of all. I would much rather wait 20 minutes and see hydra spam than watch an equal number of cav doing stutter step micro against each other with no myth units and then the game ends when someone loses 3 more cav than the other guy.
I personally think there shouldn’t be bans in AoM, I feel like we would see higher echelon of gaming if we could see pros absolutely master their strategies and gods. And if you think that’s unbalanced, they can be easily countered if you know what strategy they will be going for every time, so it’ll force them to adapt, instead of just repeating builds for hundreds of games.
@@olegkarpa7697 I mean then both would be going loki right? Because after the bans still there would be a TOP TIER civ but you don't see a lot of mirror I think banning its unnecessary both players would either going for the same civ or developing counter strategies against the most picked civs
Is it just me or is Ra really not that strong? He's my favorite god to play but I feel like this is every game where I'm doing everything I can to keep my army/ gold up when in reality the enemy player's just checking his watch...please educate me!
ikr? More the thumbnail text than title though. the guy trolled and got rolled, and got hugely punished for grouping that tightly. Anything for content though i guess......
Honestly if Rain slowed all your enemies units by even like 5%, that would make my day :)
@AgeOfMythologyDevs
Or make enemy armor rust and make them have -5 or 10% piercing and hack armor 🤷♂️ then you have a good counter vs greek cupper (?) Armor god power
@fitzbro
This game is a good example for why supposed to you go age 3 with ra
yeah the initial army was good, caught him offguard, but should have followed up with age 3 and strongholds
I agree that you normally should do age 3 as soon as pos, but the issue in this game seemed to be more that he was using his spears only as frontline when he had cav killing stuff behind them and could have easily turned and killed them
@@marklebury Egyptian Spearman really aren't powerful enough to defeat Contarius on their own. One to one they go down very fast. Even with Anubis's poison damage.
@@jackskellingtonsora yeh true, it still feels like he messed up there a bit as they were killing his priests and slingers
edit: for clarity, im not saying i could have done any better or that the game would have turned out much differently. He definitely should not made that many barracks though.
Honestly if you plan to do age 2 aggression as Egyptian your best option for it is Set. Not only is he much better at scouting thanks to the animals of Set, but his monuments give a discount.
I don't think anyone knows you can put priest on no attack stance and they will heal your units
wow. never knew that, thanks stranger
That's actually a good idea :D
Targetting Myth units and then healing your units is probably the best combat use for them
@@TohoBuWaha yeah the only time you'd use them is to target myth units so its a double win for micro also priest don't really do much damage to anything, but myth units, even better if you can micro your injured units to hold ground stance and have the healers in spread formation not far back from the frontline to get a better area affect. Valkryires op if you have them on no attack stance, use them at the last minute when your troops are out of health mostly, not far back from the frontline, priest will heal them much faster. Same for healing springs/temples/isis monument
10:40 - AoM works on the principle "if everything's a little busted, nothing is"
Love watching these pros even though i suckkk and struggeling against hard mode bots. This game is just so nostalgic and fun
The bots in Retold are a lot better than they were in the original, I don't think they even cheat at Titan Difficulty
@@TheMonkeystick They do, they have a 25% handicap I think
No titan doesn't cheat the last 2 do you see it in game when you face them
Asking for if slingers are busted currently or not. I tell you there is one major flaw with slingers - they are way harder to micro and to get into position. Think of an greek army clashing with egyptiak army. Greek have melee infantry and Toxotes. Egypts have melee infantry and slingers. Both melee lines clash, which is okay. But when happens with the ranged? Toxotes see enemy infatry first, so auto attack the melee infantry. Toxotes att+ on infantry, thats good for them, not much more to micro. But same goes for slingers, they also see the enemy melee infantry first and attack them. And thats real bad, cause you want the slingers to attack the toxotes to be effective. You need to micro the slingers all around the frontline to get somewhat in range. Clashing at choke points this is nearly impossible. So in my opinion slingers have a huge deficit here. So make them a bit stronger in general is total fine with me.
super interested in any aom tourments. Also you must have "good" units, because civs, gods, nations what ever need to feel unquie and there is nothing worse then a cool unit being boring or bad. 99.9% of players are bad and this will never affect them cause we need to get good first
Slingers actually lost to what they are supposed to hardcounter this game. Doesnt seem op to me.
@@JD-dg1kj never said they were. Never mentioned slingers
@@JD-dg1kj Thats also because he invested all in units meanwhile the gaia player was spending a good amount on upgrades, also the frontline was resisting pretty good and he couldn't just advace with the slingers trying to target the back line becasuse he would have been target of cavalry. I think he should have invested more time into rading and invading the right side of the map pushing the gais player back or getting the third TC on the left side. Too much tunel vision on that middle of the map
Great Casting FitzBro! Im really into aom torunaments and the high ladder games that get into lategame.
Nice commentary, keeps the audience on their toes
" I hope you brought your rain jacket" 😂
Love ur vids man, best aom retold commentator by far 👍
Is there a link for the tournament you mentioned after the Red Bull?
Can a ptah into an Horus rush when you feel secure enough works? ,With a focus on barracks units. Could be done on seth or Ra (with Ra having a bigger eco, but less bonus on said units).
At fucking last! :D
A proper Ra game!
AGree with you man. It's age of mythology. Some things need to be POWERFUL
I honestly hate bans in tournies. I want to see the best players have. Pro play should be the top, the best.
Yeah, I hope someone hosts a tournament without bans soon.
good game. unique strategies are always fun to watch
What are the specific buffs oh heroizing villagers and soldiers
They really gotta buff towers soon. They're just so pitifully weak that you can just sit under an enemy tc and those towers just tickle your units.
I would like to see more long games but i doint play ranked so i doint know how long the avrige top tear game gose for
When is the final of recon and themista? SO THRILLED TO WATCH THIS MAN, will you post the games commented?
Be cool to see videos where we send in our games and you let us know what you think we could do better
07:30 the contarius has not 1, not 2 it has 3 bugs with techs atm... Poseidons secret is 30% cost reduction instead of 15% and both heavy and champion upgrades for the contarius cost only halve as much as they should (the tech tree shows the right amount but its halved ingame)..
That plus all the atlantean and gaia buffs is just an ez win button. Its such an unfair advantage to spam out heavy contarius for no ressources with such high speed and stats...
And wadjet needs a buff to his micro capabitlity for sure. Its so slow barely microable at all and has 0 hp. Its such a useless myth unit if u dont spam a lot of them and even then they die quite fast...
I want to see MID elo games, because they are much more entertaining than pro games. I don't care at all 'who' the player is or what his ELO or reputation is, I care about watching an entertaining game. They are less concerned with perfect build orders, picking the 'best' pantheons, and equal numbers of units and stutter step dance micro contests, and instead they like making cool units and doing non-optimal but interesting strategies. Games where players are of too low elo just turn into silly comedy though. I would say ELO 900-1400 would be optimum. When I see a heading such as 'number one player vs number two player' I just think 'oh that is going to be boring I'm not going to watch that'. Honestly I just want to see games where unusual tactics and units are used, or games where there are massive swings, such as a game I played myself recently where I lost 67 villagers and still came back and won. As soon as a pro player gets a slight disadvantage or loss, they often just resign.
You see some hysterical shit in low elo too. Friends and I watched a 3v3 where a Greek player looked like he was trolling his team for the first 20 minutes. His teammates were getting pushed in, then we check out his base and find that he has 5 temples with 70 villagers split between only food and favor. He literally just autoqued an army of only hydras and steamrolled the game. We were dying
@@beawulf9 Yeah, that makes my point where I said 'games where players are of too low elo just turn into silly comedy'. But like you also said, there was nothing happening for 20 minutes..... I would still prefer low elo game to a pro or tournament game, those are the least entertaining of all. I would much rather wait 20 minutes and see hydra spam than watch an equal number of cav doing stutter step micro against each other with no myth units and then the game ends when someone loses 3 more cav than the other guy.
its worth knowing there is going to be a co op mode in the game that might allow for allot of stupid shit like that called arena of the gods
How is he importing all the buildings at once?
I smashed that sub button 9 times!
Had to use all of my fingers to count that one, but odd number means you are still subbed. Math checks out!
Theia? I hardly know her!
(I'm a big Gaia player but even i hope they fix the bugged uber cheap Contarius soon, I thought it was fixed in the Pup?)
i swear i played rha LIKE THIS im so proud of myself that a pro player have the same idea :D
he should have secured his 2nd gold with an army and just go to 3rd age.
Are slingers really that good ? All games i saw ra had a huge army adnvatags and just lost to cav
Im working lateeeeee cuz I'm a slingerrrrr
Have you thought about casting some low ELO games. Might be fun =D
Great game!
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I personally think there shouldn’t be bans in AoM, I feel like we would see higher echelon of gaming if we could see pros absolutely master their strategies and gods. And if you think that’s unbalanced, they can be easily countered if you know what strategy they will be going for every time, so it’ll force them to adapt, instead of just repeating builds for hundreds of games.
you are probably a loki player
Games would be more boring and repetitive
@@olegkarpa7697 I mean then both would be going loki right? Because after the bans still there would be a TOP TIER civ but you don't see a lot of mirror I think banning its unnecessary both players would either going for the same civ or developing counter strategies against the most picked civs
The golden what?
I've never been this early. Hi!
I may have scheduled it for the wrong time....happy early video for today!
thats what she said :X
Is it just me or is Ra really not that strong? He's my favorite god to play but I feel like this is every game where I'm doing everything I can to keep my army/ gold up when in reality the enemy player's just checking his watch...please educate me!
That was a misleading title haha
Arcus have 20 range and people complain about toxotes...
they also have less dmg.
Toxotes are quite a bit better when it comes to DPS though.
@@TohoBuWaha next patch will slightly nerf than, but yeah their dps and health is brutal on short range
All archers need a nerf. Im sick of getting owned by balls of archers, it isnt strategic at all to just mass archers.
Misleading title 1/10
ikr? More the thumbnail text than title though. the guy trolled and got rolled, and got hugely punished for grouping that tightly. Anything for content though i guess......
I've been crushing people on ladder using this exact strategy.
@@FitzBro You probably aged up at some point at least