Repairing Data East's 1990 Original THE SIMPSONS Pinball Machine - Power Supply W/ Hole Burnt In It!
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I remember playing this machine,at a mall, in Minnesota. This and the Addams family machine were my favorites to play, from this era. Thanks for taking the time to give this machine the TLC it needs
That replaced 2N transistor with hard to read marking looks like counterfeit. We had issue where TO-3 transistors bought from somewhat reputable supplier would not last, and when investigating I found out that all were counterfeits. All of those had similar looking markings and a dull grey top, that was in fact a grey paint! It wiped right off with acetone leaving shiny clean metal top. I opened couple of those faulty ones, and also broken old ones to compare them, and the counterfeit transistors had tiny die glued inside, where the old ones had much larger die bonded to internal heat spreader.
Otherwise nice repair! I have not yet seen that badly burned Data East power board, but good thing you could get that connector back in. Weakest link always gives up, and fuses are made to be that for a reason :-)
This 100% - for mission critical transistors like the one found on Atari's ARII, I only purchase them directly from NTE.
You were correct Ron. I was watching! I Always enjoy the next video and learn something useful. Working on these old machines is my stress relief. Watching them breathe again and revive back to their original glory is a rare joy that you do a great job capturing and sharing with others. I look forward to your next project as much as I look forward to my own.
Very nice. I have the same machine and had a fault on +100V side. Capacitor juice had shorted that 100V to ground and a smaller hole was in the center of the PSU board. I see that is charred there also on that orig board in this video. Swapped caps and made 2 jump wires and now it works again.
Why is so satisfying watching this videos... I just wish I can diagnose this boards and say "Aha this is the problem" like you do but I still can't read schematics properly.
Thank you for watching Slackery, if you mess with enough of them eventually they start to make sense! We'll see you on the next video....
Woaaa a Simpsons pinball machine!! Looking forward to watch a new repair video for this classic! So in this, the bridge rectifier shorted and burnt up the cables, but not at all to put the whole pinball offline. I mean is still working but with some issues like you said. Interesting! Best regards!
Best moment, "There's probably a couple other spots where you can grab [the voltages]. Well, that ain't one." That's something I would do. Thanks for being human :)
Absolutely gorgeous machine inside and out and to make it even better its the Simpsons! Incredible
It's a fun one :) Thanks for watching Tyler!!!
1:39 -I have fond memories of getting that shirt,and getting in trouble at school. My dad wasn't impressed.
Looks like it got hot from sitting by the window. LOL. Okay sorry i had to mouth off cause you mentioned. :) Thank you for the video!!!!
I would clean up that power supply PCB the best you could, and check the burnt area to make sure it's not conductive. The burnt portion of the PCB becomes carbonized and can become conductive, thus you want to make sure it's not touching anything else which it may effect on.
Great video as always Ron.Just love the way you explain things.
Thank you Simon
I learnt something. I thought there was only 1 Simpson's game, the latest one. Thanks Ron.
I used to repair hols in pcb's by removing all the burned material with a mini drill and carbide bit then making a new little pcb the same as the old one then using epoxy resin glue the patch in, finaly solder link wires to join up old and new copper tracks. i never had one come back. yes it takes a couple of hours but if the board is expensive its worth salvaging
Nice machine, it's great to have original connectors on boards mutch nicer😎👍
Thank you Danijel :)
Great to watch another cool pinball repair video. ... Very entertaining and fun.
I love the back glass!
It’s very well done!
I don't think the bridge rectifier shorted out; that would have caused different damage. I think the original connector probably had a bad solder joint that started arcing. The fuses didn't blow because it was still drawing only the current that the normal circuitry needed. There was no short circuit, just a bad contact but it was the contact where all the current of the entire circuit was supposed to go through. So as you would say it: always check for bad solder joints, and take them seriously, people!
Great video as always! Too bad there's not much to show for this repair (though bringing that power supply back to life was probably a lot of work). There's a lot of circuitry in this one.
I love your videos! I just had this delivered today and can't stop playing it. All lights work except the two donuts at the top of the playfield. How do I get to those? I got as far as taking the glass off...
This is my favorite pin. I would love to own one.
I just finished one. I Replaced the the stickers on the towers and the simpson characters on the yellow flashers.
Sure does resemble the old Defender/Early Stargate linear!
It's a variation of the Williams System 11 power supply, which was of course the same company that made Defender/Stargate !
@@LyonsArcade Right on man, thanks :) I'm only arcade repair experience, I know jack shit about pinball except for my 2 grail pins......still watch your pinball vids though, excellent stuff as always! Thanks again!
Watching your videos are "100 and fun* 😉
Awwww....did it already sell? son of a gun! I don't usually comment, but, great video as always Sir!
Thank you HarryManl3ack we appreciate you watching even if you don't usually comment :) We'll see you on the next video!
what an awesome machine, can't wait to visit the shop when I come up to SC next year :D
Very cool Tyetus come on by Mr. Rygar!
So, I'm guessing for the kickback it'll ether be a. a misadjusted switch, b. a totally bad switch, c. broken wire, or d. maybe a board issue? Transistor? Still learning about the harder issues when the problem is on the board lol
We're going to mess with that Kickback in today's video... which comes out in.... 5 minutes! Thank you for watching Some Guy!
@@LyonsArcadeWow! Now THAT'S service! :D
I remember getting in trouble for those in school. " but my shirt only says "aye carumba""
Yup the teachers reallllly didn't like any of those shirts. I used to buy them at the flea market (or my dad would) for like 5 dollars at the time, lol
Weren't Williams and Data East working together for their pinball systems in the late 90s? I do recall some cabs which have "Williams/Data East" branding on them, but I can be wrong.
Man I want that thing.
It is very cool wait till next video!
Looks like that pcb was hit by a stray blaster shot.
One of those Asteroids came out of the other machine and hit it!
You can replace capacitors with slightly bigger capacitors (150uF can be replaced with 220uF one), most of times it's just for smoothing and not that critical._
Nice machine!
Thank you William, we appreciate it and we are going to make it nicer :)
Now i thought that LED's would last a lifetime .... still there are out :P @5:12 :P
12:00 When I comes to that connector. Would you be able to overlay that connector with a chunk of board that is from a power board that is beyond repair after cleaning the chared parts?
I think that would work just fine…
Hook it Bart HOOK IT! Direct short. Bummer. No tellin'.
Hook It Bart!!! Thanks for watching Dave!
I don't think it was the rectifiers that did that, since they just run the "ground" to the right place. Something shorted to ground. But yeah, for some reason the fuse didn't do its job.
There's two different Simpsons Pinball machines?
This one and Simpsons pinball party I think?
Can't remember the name or manufacturer.
Yes the later one was The Simpsons Pinball Party by Stern, I think it was around 2005 or so. Thanks for watching Sche as always :)
For the 100 volts testing can you touch the connector pins without getting shocked?
I'm not trying to :)
@@LyonsArcade but you said you are 4 inches away and then you said you did touch them earlier???? Will it shock a person or is a good place to test ??? As always thank you,
Oh it's the original Simpsons Pinball machine.
Daylight view is a lot easier to watch than the dark view. Not as fancy in real life perhaps but from a video perspective it lacks contrast just looks kinda dark with flashing colors.
I like playing it in the dark sorry
That is too funny because I am also a Lefty and did the same with my crimpers to.
My Brotha!
You guys do not happen to have a Star Trek 25th Anniversary Transformer do you?
I need a replacement one for mine as it makes a horrible noise and then blows the 8Amp fuse.
Everything else I have replaced on it as there was some crispy stuff for connectors.
Thought I would ask as I would like to get the game up and running and so I can test it.
Have you ever tried plasti-dip product on those worn vinyl covered ramps?
It comes in a variety of colours and may be tintable but not sure. Mainly developed for tool handles etc but it's great for lots of stuff because it's a fairly rugged coating. It can be dipped or brushed on.
You can buy it through an Amazon affiliate link page of this crazy pinball repair guy I know in Carolina and he gets a cut. 😜
That would work pretty good I think, I haven't looked into it too much because I've only had a couple of these machines with the coated ramps but it would probably work out just fine! Thank you for watching Andrew!!!
Question: Is there a reason you didn't use the components off the "parts" board to repair the "replacement" unburnt board? Just curious if there was something wrong with the big transistor off the old board or was it just easier to use new? You definitely did a good thing by the customer using the unburnt board. You really do look after your customers.
With the burnt ground, it might not have been a direct short. It may have been a bad solder joint that was arcing and caused the board to burn. The ground carries all the current from the game so there could have been upto 8 amps worth of arcing happening there, which wouldn't kill the fuse, but would burn up the board.
There wasn't anything wrong with that transistor I just figured I'd put a new one in the other one... It could have been swapped over though for sure.... That's a good point about the arcing, it's a common problem and they were aware of it, I think that's why they made that one pigtail connector on them anyways to try to change that but as you can see they had all kinds of problems with that design... I guess the way they saw it was once it lasted 2 or 3 years they wanted you to buy a new game anyways, lol
Thank you for watching Brendan we appreciate it as always!!!
Makes me slightly depressed that The Simpsons and I, are so old that this game predates DMD. Agree on the early Simpsons being the best Simpsons.
It was alllllllmost DMD :) Thanks for watching Martin, we appreciate it!
I suspect a shorted C1...
Does Clay still have his info for this era of game up? Do I need to ask him for permission to access another part of his site?
OEHHHH! now i'm curious! :-)
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"Eat my shorts!" Hahaha
Hahaha gotta love it
JOE CLASSIC, I'm confused about how they lamps are Strobed because it uses 18vdc since its being strobed its only getting 6vdc. The Strobe is turning on/off the 18vdc at a duty cycle to only provide 6vdc but what I'm confused about is why didn't the designer just use 6vdc ( without a strobe signal) instead of using 18vdc with a strobe signal to get 6vdc. What would be the upgrades on this power supply to prevent the burning damage on the connectors? It seems that the Bridge Rectifiers AMP ratings specs needs to be upgraded as well as that TO2 package transistor regulator?
It would take too many individual circuits to individually light up every light constantly. All electronics that have dozens or more elements to light up will use the strobe method because then you only need a grid of wires with driving elements for one side of the grid, not one for every single element. So pinball games, microwave displays, LCDs, etc. They all strobe the individual light elements (or more precisely, groups at a time) at a speed that's fast enough that you can't perceive it.
@@ovalteen4404 Ok I get that part. What I don't understand is the Diodes used in the Matrix if you remove all the Diodes in the matrix for some reason it causes errors not sure why because the strobe signal is still going to flow in one direction from Row to Column so the diode is not determining a one way Polarity of the strobe signal. So I don't understand what the purpose of having all those diodes in the lamp and switch matrix systems.
Good morning Joe. Did you see the Eddie Kingston v CM Punk AEW Full Gear wrestling mach Saturday . Wow, what a brawl . Never seen a Simpsons pinball before . This will be fun .
I did not see it, I heard they tore it down though....
ha, i currently working on Simpsons Party/stern
That is such a fun game! Thank you for watching Dave, good luck with your Simpsons Pinball Party!
Oeh, i liked my bootleg t-shirt of Donald *uck. I have gotten myself into trouble at school wearing that one :D
Why not use a ring terminal to the ground lug on that PCB?
That would work! Thank you for watching kingof1337!
I’m a 12 year old and I’m starting my own arcade collection. I have a Legend Of Kage a Cetipede and a Galaga 3 in a gorf cabinet. I also have a silver ball mania pinball machine. If you find a star castle for an okay price let me know
Not worth adding an inline fuse to those ground lines? btw Donnies channels cool!
Thank you Tollie, we appreciate you watching!
Just call Data East and get new parts
Disclaimer. about 150% of you don't understand sarcasm and I was being sarcastic
Some of the parts are still sold by stern but not most of them 😀
Well duhhhh🙄😁
Why are the PCB traces all bubbly looking? Like a crumpled piece of paper.
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Nice machine but I'd rather have a South Park machine over this one
DOUGH !!!!!
Now that's funny
Yodelayheehoo
If you get upset on these fix it up dealies --
Don't have a cow, Man!
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There's a Simpsons phrase for every situation!
Oh, and the only Simpsons Seasons that count are Seasons 1-6.
I own the first eight seasons on DVD and actually watched all my discs.
Really, there's no point to the series after Season 6 and the Simpsons Movie sucked!
18000 ouff haha
Please say uF rather than 🎶 microfarad 🎶
It's Moo, why did you put a U ? (LOL)