>Guy plays character how he should be played >People are salty I'm sorry some fighting games have their own unique quirks, and are not just carbon copies of Street Fighter.
This is where I use captain cold, set up an ice wall, charge my gun while your spams don't do shit to me, use my lvl 3 freeze, freeze your ass and corner trap you with my combo.
Can we talk about how honeybee did two combos midscreen that lead into full screen zoning? Even punishing unsafe teleports that lead back to full screen zoning? Talk about people not realizing what the hell zoning is. I would imgiane that when the game gets older people will figure out counters to deadshot anyways it's only been out for a little while.
Why Hello There he's good, it's just fucking boring to watch when someone chooses a zoning character. You know how easy it is to learn to zone rather learning to use an up close character? the up close fighters are the real soldiers.
officiallynothingspecific I will agree that it is pretty boring to watch when all it is a projectile war. However it is only day one. I'd imgiane honeybee be labbing flash for tourney. Just give the game some time to be explored more and maybe the game won't be all about the projectile stuff.
Deadshot is in the game, so if someone picks him and "zone" you out.. get better and fucking deal with it !!! This is the way NRS intends people to use Deadshot. This should be nothing new. They said it on stream !!
You know what's dumb is the supergirls in this video should have been able to take a load all over this spam b.s. but they waste their meters on super moves they didn't use her great 1 meter moves no follow up combos. this video would have been way diffrent if he faced competent players.
His standard wrist shot has INSANE recovery time; this isn't like someone spamming hadoukens in street fighter, these projectiles (especially meter burns with multiples) can counter moves that are designed to nullify them. The gap in difficulty required to use projectiles vs the difficulty required to dodge them is ludicrous; more than any other fighting game I know of. This deadshot player in the video IS good, and he better than the players he fights, but it just doesn't seem like any of the moves he makes has an appropriate amount of risk tied to it, plus it is so easy to create distance without meter.
Jeff Imbert lol every time someone picks deadshot, I immediately choose darkseid cuz I don't wanna deal with that bs so you wanna play zoning? I'll give you some zoning with darkseid too.
Before y'all click off the video because of that first Robin match, Deadshot uses guns, so of course he's gonna be at a distance shooting guns. Getting in with a character isn't as hard as people who call zoning "spam" say it is. That Robin could've easily divekicked across the screen instead of MB roll, or teleported, giving him THREE different ways to get in, plus he did not capitilize on damage, and actually could have won the match if he did not drop so many combos.
Carter Harris not only that, he's playing casuals on ranked. Pretty sure there are counters and punishes and hard reads for most of the gunshots (except straight shot)
Dude how much range do you think his dive kick has? capitalizing a combo hardly makes up for damage already sustained, and I shouldn't have to burn meter only to get knocked back into a corner. I don't have much right to say anything considering I'm a casual player, but it seems a bit unfair.
What, y'all expected a character named Deadshot to NOT shoot? Meanwhile, I don't hear anyone complaining about that Damien spamming the same strings...huh. The game just got released, not everyone is gonna deal with it easily. Besides, this IS Honeybee, who is a great player, already. It wasn't like he didn't do combos or anything.
Ya know it's Almost like watching a Deathstroke mirror match from the first injustice. Only one is only using sword skills while other is using gun skills.
Alijah Wilds hey I'm just going along with what I've heard. Nothing is really official for a tier list right now. I'll stick with him too don't worry lol
I was gonna say spammer, but then again you are deadshot, like what else is he gonna do. He shoots for a living. Not only that, I see nice tactics! Good work.
The thing about pro players surprisingly is that they're not much more levelheaded than your casual player. They'll immediately be like "this char is ass tier" after like 4 days instead of trying to find a way around something
what observed from the video. Meter burn roll is worthless, His projectiles recovery is too damn fast, he builds meter like it nothing for doing nothing but zoning, and blocking his projectile push you back very hard.... Lmao, did NRS not learn from the first Injustice?
nrs put a lot of characters in the game with zoning capabilities in the game just because the meter burn rolls in the game,just gotta find your way around it
Deadshot is a zone char but the nice thing is that HoneyBee is mixing it up quite good. But trust me he will get in trouble if the game is out for a month because people know how to evoide the guns etc.. You can see though, that he knows what he is doing and when to go in and when not.. So he plays this char perfectly. The way he needs to be played. + one thing that is really nice for a zone char in the beginning. Is that people don't know how to defend against it, so it makes a zoner OP in the eye of one another. The reality is that they don't know what they are doing yet, because they haven't no lifed the game yet lol. Nice vid!
Clorox Bleach you really think someone's gonna say, "oh I'm about to kill them with what I've been doing... better go in and change something up" You're fucking dumb and would throw a game just to do some cool combos
I don't play injustice but I can clearly see that you can't jump over his shot because there is no gap to land in and jump the next. Just have to make precise reads
Can someone list some ways to counter him? I mean I'm not saying he needs a nerf I just feel for the rush down guys who ain't got a chance in this video
plot twist bee is playing this character early to show the developers and public how easy and op it is to zone with shot so he gets nerfed and he doesn't play against one with his flash in tournament😂😂😂
I'm sick and tired of players like you who ruin what would otherwise be a fun and hype fighting game by picking cheap ass characters and spamming projectiles all day. Why don't you go in and fight honourably instead of abusing the fact you can kill with projectiles unlike in Smash. Jk.
Zoning is all Deadshot seems to have and at least their are better ways to counter it compared to Deathstroke in 1 which had some up close intentional alongside his zoning. But I mean, if you take out Deadshots ability to zone with his gun, what does he have left? His up close combos are rather lacking compared to other characters. Not to mention what's this talk about "for honor"? That seems rather subjective.
I would be made like the rest of the comment section, then I realize NRS made ways to counter zoning on top of the fact that Deadshot is complete balls up close.
Adloquium Dubious Explain to me how the fuck you're supposed to counter Deadshot with a character like Batman for example. If you block, you still take damage. You try to get close to him with a roll, he just rifle spams you. Darkseid is just as bad if not worse than Deadshot. i've watched players on Twitch do nothing but spam Omega beams with the opponent being helpless against it.
AngryBeaver30 Do you really think they would create a zoner like this without out giving everyone else options???by that logic your speaking are you implying it's impossible to get in and bodie this Character.
Tweek the su Fantic Well how do you dodge constant projectiles when blocking, jumping, and rolling don't work? With these being your only movement options for combat characters like Batman, you're pretty much screwed.
AngryBeaver30 walk and duck ,walk and duck you will low profile the projectiles.With Batman wait for your trait to kick in use the bats to apply pressure to gives more freedom to move.If your trait lands your able to use your meter burn pulling rope to stun him and combo,at this point the only thing you have to worry about is the low bullets block thoes and stay low.
AngryBeaver30 It's literally a game of patience and descsion making,also bait he's wake up attack for a full punish keep him lock down....you have 200sec to close the gap make it count
that was close to pig of the hut level when it comes to zoning on that first match and that's not a complimate. Nevertheless, you're the number flash player, bring that flash out please! whenever you get a chance
well after watching Sonic fox and now honeybee playing Deadshot, I guess I'll just have hit the lab. the zoning is crazy, looks like theres barley any opportunity to jump over and looks like he can still catch you mid air if you do. mb roll seems like a waste of meter to do it constantly, solid chip on mb. man, he can even combo you if he catches you in mid air with projectiles from almost full screen.. I smell a nerf in the making
What's the difference between spamming and zoning! You can either take the L or you play the character like he was designed and if you are against him work around beating him. Too much salt. Too much excuse.
lilskills721 I use bane! In injustice 1 deathstroke was one of his nightmare matchups but it was still possible to win, if you put the time in, work hard and train at the things you like, "spamming" becomes trivial for a short amount of time. With that said I'm not blind and I can see most people choosing deadshot not because of his unique gameplay but just spam bullets to win and tbh I feel that if you HAVE to do this to win every single match then mentally I've won because I'm not the player relying on OP one shot tactics to win every game, you might win the battle but you lose the war as you don't gain anything? What are you learning? Nothing.
People are compaining that Deadshot uses his guns too much? Thats like if you complained the flash for being too quick or agile. That's the whole point.
i think you're really good with deadshot (my main ) but you don't use a lot of his basic opening kicks and punches. if you use those you can unload on someone without zoning. you've got his ranged attacks down though
Honestly, I think alot of people who complain about Deadshot is still somewhat use to being able to run (MKX) in to get in on people. But now since there is no run mechanic, it's harder now. But honestly, they could take some of the recovery frames away, if they nerf him, because honestly he recovers really fast on some of them.
NapppyNegus it's something that you shouldn't let your opponent get away with. Like kung Lao ex hat in mkx. ex db1 was plus but not plus enough to guarantee anything so if you keep pressuring that's fake pressure
Everyone saying he's spamming to much or zoning doesn't know anything I mean it may be annoying but you wouldn't be complaining if you knew how to play against it😂😂keep doing what u doin honey bee💪🏿💪🏿💯
how are you supposed to do anything with a steady stream of bullets constantly flying at you? there's no gaps, and when you close in, the spammer can just grab or do some other cheap shit
Kizzainpleh Walk in, mb roll in, jump in, dash in. You have loads of options. And if you get in range and allow him to grab you its your fault not his. Stop complaining and get good.
Tyrese Oswald you can do all that except for he just gonna back up once he hits you, and zone. Look at how fast his guns are, and the recovery for it wtf. You almost always gonna jump right into his shot.
The problem isn't deadshot. It's how they game favors zoners. You don't get bar by blocking only by taking damage. So you can't block, roll in with the bar you got then beat him up. You HAVE to take damage before you can roll in. Which is incredibly stupid.
this is how to prooerly use Dead Shot, keep your opponent at bay and if they get close punish with a combo. Most Dead players sit in the back and spam projectiles without strategy.
Deadshot isn't even overpowered, he's meant to be a zoner. If you can't deal with simple zoning, you need to get better at the game. Like SERIOUSLY better. The reason people complain about zoners is because on MKX there were so few of them online because all people did was cheap jump-ins and wake-ups, without any experience in properly playing the game. It's okay to keep your distance, and zoning doesn't make you a noob in the slightest.
MystiCalBEING89 you mean super moves? It's flashy but tbh you could probably get more out of your meter if you use them in a combo and meter burn not to mention you can block the super moves and that's a pretty big gamble
I love this. Also, for those who call him a spammer, go nerf Green Arrow, Black Adam, and even Aqua-mans "poke-poke-poke" before saying Dead-Shot needs a nerf
I would say deadshot needs a nerf on his meter build and chip Damage but he definitely doesn't the reason being the new meter burn roll mechanic in this game makes it extremely easy to get in on zoners i found it in the lab and been shitting on all the people picking him ranked trying to get easy wins
The problem isn't that zoning exists, it's that it's easy to do, and hard to counter. I completely agree that zoning has its place in a fighting game, and that players who think they're better just because they do combos are laughable, but this is ridiculous. I could practice Deadshot for 10 minutes and beat a decent percentage of players on ranked. You can say that those players are scrubs and need to learn how to counter it, but it doesn't change the fact that an entry level player playing against an entry level Deadshot will lose. You have to be careful and methodical to get in on him, and he's just mashing special moves and occasionally backdashing. The skill gap is soulcrushing. And that's not even mentioning his staggerable safe 50/50 that puts you back at fullscreen if you guess wrong. He requires less skill to win with than other characters, and that's never a good thing for a competitive title. Maybe increase his recovery so he's easier to get in on, maybe add a tutorial for newer players to help them get around zoning, I don't know what the best idea is. But they need to do something, otherwise this game will be the same 3 or so characters fighting each other forever. Why have 29 characters in your game if people are only going to pick one.
i dont play this and im gonna get into it but if hes a pro gamer at this why is he running and spamming? street fighter pros all have actual fighting skill
>Guy plays character how he should be played
>People are salty
I'm sorry some fighting games have their own unique quirks, and are not just carbon copies of Street Fighter.
Preach it sista
the community will complain and NRS will nerf him every single patch like what they did to Deathstroke back then
Destiny Love it's literally day one of the game and people are claiming Scarecrow and Black Adam are op? I hate this community.
Destiny Love ur ass lol
Destiny Love L
L
Lol yeah delete that comment, good luck coming at me next time.
Everybody is complaining about the video being boring, but I just find it really funny that the opponents can't do shit against it
devuil
that's why they're complaining 😑
devuil
Well it gets boring when you see this kinda shit over and over. This shit is so common in online. People get sick of it.
nah it's fun to watch when shit like this is obvious before release.
Jesus he is SOOO easy to spam.
FRAYNETRAIN you have never played a fighting game have you 😐
HIS NAME IS DEAD SHOOOOOOOOOOOOT! jesus christ
Captain hazama you never played a fighting game before, his guns and recovery are so fast you almost always jump right into his shot you idiot.
His opponents sat in a corner and let him spam.
I reported this video as spam, lol get it? no? ok I'll leave
TheExodus 777 good one bro XD
Wastedsamurai 3 lol thx
TheExodus 777 *long sigh* the puns... THE PUNS
TheExodus 777 its not Spam Deadshot is Zoner
RhinoSpiderman 666 nah it's spam
"Be a man and pick up a gun" - Deadshot
His machines guns chip is getting nerfed for sure.
This is where I use captain cold, set up an ice wall, charge my gun while your spams don't do shit to me, use my lvl 3 freeze, freeze your ass and corner trap you with my combo.
nativeboy36 See. That's the spirit. Your thinking of ways to get around it instead of most people bitching about how it's "cheap" and "unfair"
nativeboy36 I'm playing Harley and Cheetah against him. They have the necessary tools as well.
Harley is really good against him in my opinion, Poison Ivy has worked out for me as well.
before every one gets pist about dead shot, understand that this is how he's suppost to be playes
Can we talk about how honeybee did two combos midscreen that lead into full screen zoning? Even punishing unsafe teleports that lead back to full screen zoning? Talk about people not realizing what the hell zoning is. I would imgiane that when the game gets older people will figure out counters to deadshot anyways it's only been out for a little while.
Why Hello There he's good, it's just fucking boring to watch when someone chooses a zoning character. You know how easy it is to learn to zone rather learning to use an up close character? the up close fighters are the real soldiers.
officiallynothingspecific I will agree that it is pretty boring to watch when all it is a projectile war. However it is only day one. I'd imgiane honeybee be labbing flash for tourney. Just give the game some time to be explored more and maybe the game won't be all about the projectile stuff.
Why Hello There let's hope so
Deadshot is in the game, so if someone picks him and "zone" you out.. get better and fucking deal with it !!!
This is the way NRS intends people to use Deadshot. This should be nothing new. They said it on stream !!
Jeff Imbert how can you "get better and deal with it" when its almost impossible to jump over his bullets lol. plus his guns are ridiculously fast
Jeff Imbert they fucking stupid as hell to add deadshot, death stroke would of been a way better choice for a fighting game
You know what's dumb is the supergirls in this video should have been able to take a load all over this spam b.s. but they waste their meters on super moves they didn't use her great 1 meter moves no follow up combos. this video would have been way diffrent if he faced competent players.
His standard wrist shot has INSANE recovery time; this isn't like someone spamming hadoukens in street fighter, these projectiles (especially meter burns with multiples) can counter moves that are designed to nullify them. The gap in difficulty required to use projectiles vs the difficulty required to dodge them is ludicrous; more than any other fighting game I know of.
This deadshot player in the video IS good, and he better than the players he fights, but it just doesn't seem like any of the moves he makes has an appropriate amount of risk tied to it, plus it is so easy to create distance without meter.
Jeff Imbert lol every time someone picks deadshot, I immediately choose darkseid cuz I don't wanna deal with that bs so you wanna play zoning? I'll give you some zoning with darkseid too.
Guys chill out! Do remember when Injustice 1 came out? It was mostly zoning. It just came out today! Give them a break!
Before y'all click off the video because of that first Robin match, Deadshot uses guns, so of course he's gonna be at a distance shooting guns. Getting in with a character isn't as hard as people who call zoning "spam" say it is. That Robin could've easily divekicked across the screen instead of MB roll, or teleported, giving him THREE different ways to get in, plus he did not capitilize on damage, and actually could have won the match if he did not drop so many combos.
Carter Harris not only that, he's playing casuals on ranked. Pretty sure there are counters and punishes and hard reads for most of the gunshots (except straight shot)
Dude how much range do you think his dive kick has? capitalizing a combo hardly makes up for damage already sustained, and I shouldn't have to burn meter only to get knocked back into a corner. I don't have much right to say anything considering I'm a casual player, but it seems a bit unfair.
What, y'all expected a character named Deadshot to NOT shoot?
Meanwhile, I don't hear anyone complaining about that Damien spamming the same strings...huh.
The game just got released, not everyone is gonna deal with it easily. Besides, this IS Honeybee, who is a great player, already. It wasn't like he didn't do combos or anything.
Y'all are getting salty about him zoning..... when dead shot is a zoning character...
Ikr, wtf.
@@jace5701 Exactly
Ya know it's Almost like watching a Deathstroke mirror match from the first injustice. Only one is only using sword skills while other is using gun skills.
What happened to flash?
Alijah Wilds apparently he's really low tier right now
J_o_e_l 98 but it's day 1 -__- I know the pros have had the game for a week or so but it's still super early. I'm sticking with the flash.
Alijah Wilds hey I'm just going along with what I've heard. Nothing is really official for a tier list right now. I'll stick with him too don't worry lol
Tbh i expected this to be alot more entertaining like a ERRON BLACK gameplay but rlly good video
Might have to switch main's don't wanna go against a million Deadshots thinking their gonna win by zoning.
but thats exactly whats going to to happen :(
I've been playing online since the games release and I legit haven't seen a single Deadshot.
Which has worse ping mk11 or injustice 2
I was gonna say spammer, but then again you are deadshot, like what else is he gonna do. He shoots for a living. Not only that, I see nice tactics! Good work.
Why did no body like ur comment bro, u just spit facts
@@nephew2604 maybe because he was the most boring and skill less character. not saying its his fault, i blame nrs’s lack of a brain
The thing about pro players surprisingly is that they're not much more levelheaded than your casual player. They'll immediately be like "this char is ass tier" after like 4 days instead of trying to find a way around something
This is exactly how a char like dead shot should play...
why do some youtube videos not have an upload date?
what observed from the video. Meter burn roll is worthless, His projectiles recovery is too damn fast, he builds meter like it nothing for doing nothing but zoning, and blocking his projectile push you back very hard.... Lmao, did NRS not learn from the first Injustice?
Keep the uploads coming man game looking lit!
Notify me again on how one can block bullets?
Bro where god lord flash play at?
I remember back in Injustice 1 when I played with my cousins we made Deathstroke off-limits because he was too overpowered! 😂😂😂
i main deadshot , who could be my secondary main to get along with the bad mus deadshot have?
Whoever approved deadshot as a character was doing some serious cocaine
so is this the new full auto jackie??
Are you gonna stream again?
7:33 that ending headshot
You mean a guy who specializes in guns fights from a distance and uses guns? Damn. Mind blown.
so Floyd is like Deathstroke with better trait but worse melee capabilities/combo potential?
nrs put a lot of characters in the game with zoning capabilities in the game just because the meter burn rolls in the game,just gotta find your way around it
Deadshot is a zone char but the nice thing is that HoneyBee is mixing it up quite good. But trust me he will get in trouble if the game is out for a month because people know how to evoide the guns etc.. You can see though, that he knows what he is doing and when to go in and when not.. So he plays this char perfectly. The way he needs to be played. + one thing that is really nice for a zone char in the beginning. Is that people don't know how to defend against it, so it makes a zoner OP in the eye of one another. The reality is that they don't know what they are doing yet, because they haven't no lifed the game yet lol. Nice vid!
Which version should I buy? Is ultimate edition worth it? When should I buy it?
ho-ly shit this pro player knows how to use deadshot. DAMN
Your great with Deadshot I'm subscribing
I guess it's just because everyone is brand new to it.. I'm pretty sure you can burn meter to get in on zone characters in this one.
All this is telling me is that Red Hood needs a hand held .50 cal machine gun.
Beautiful. A good Deadshot has to be so frustrating to fight against because of that nasty zoning
I can see the zoning but if your gonna take a full bar a health down with just that its called spamming at that point
Clorox Bleach Why should he stop if the opponent is getting hit by it. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Tyrese Oswald spoken like a true spammer I never said they had to fix it kid.
Tyrese Oswald spoken like a true kid that doesn't know how to use phrases right have a nice day I'm gonna go play injustice 2.
Clorox Bleach you really think someone's gonna say, "oh I'm about to kill them with what I've been doing... better go in and change something up"
You're fucking dumb and would throw a game just to do some cool combos
Metric of Sqad dont reply till you actually know how to do a combo
hello its Dead SHOT not dead punch. shooting is kind of his thing.
really good gameplay btw
Deadshot ranked? Subscribed immediately
I don't play injustice but I can clearly see that you can't jump over his shot because there is no gap to land in and jump the next. Just have to make precise reads
Who should I pick to combat the zoning characters
Like is supergirl good to stop dead shot
Bman Davenport Captain Cold can be good too
Can someone list some ways to counter him? I mean I'm not saying he needs a nerf I just feel for the rush down guys who ain't got a chance in this video
Padraic Gaffney be patient and slowly walk in because if you get impatient you will make a lot more mistakes.
I'm Frozendragoon yeah he has great recovery on most of his shots so jumping and dashing won't work I don't think
Padraic Gaffney firestrom
Padraic Gaffney MB roll is quite possibly the biggest thing as well, apparently everyone has forgot that exists.
Tyrese Oswald do you know how is aerial shots are? I'm kind of thinking blue beetle fly over to him
looks like bee is handing the speedforce over to zyphox...we'll see if flash is really as bad as some ppl claim
patricksreels this game is really zone heavy and its hard for him to get in
Dollar yeah probably. I hope they don't come up with nerfing it too fast/much
patricksreels i hope it gets nerfes fast
I was getting destroyed against green arrow, they removed most of his rush down moves so you can't get in
plot twist bee is playing this character early to show the developers and public how easy and op it is to zone with shot so he gets nerfed and he doesn't play against one with his flash in tournament😂😂😂
legit strategy
Shaydo I really hope that's what's he doing because he main flash
I'm sick and tired of players like you who ruin what would otherwise be a fun and hype fighting game by picking cheap ass characters and spamming projectiles all day. Why don't you go in and fight honourably instead of abusing the fact you can kill with projectiles unlike in Smash.
Jk.
Lol.
Zoning is all Deadshot seems to have and at least their are better ways to counter it compared to Deathstroke in 1 which had some up close intentional alongside his zoning. But I mean, if you take out Deadshots ability to zone with his gun, what does he have left? His up close combos are rather lacking compared to other characters.
Not to mention what's this talk about "for honor"? That seems rather subjective.
Great Zoning dude I love people that can't handle zoning always cry about it.
where is Matthew mercer?
I'm glad I watched this before I wasted $60
No one wants scrub trash playing this game anyway lmfao
Jetanium casual
Jetanium same
Exactly why I hesitated to get this game. After seeing this, I'm glad I kept my money.
Nonchalant81s your scared of a challenge?
Tweek the su Fantic no he's scared of a game that's unfair I guess lol I can't blame him SFV is shot the hell out
@@tweekthesufantic3291 no its just not fun
I would be made like the rest of the comment section, then I realize NRS made ways to counter zoning on top of the fact that Deadshot is complete balls up close.
Adloquium Dubious Explain to me how the fuck you're supposed to counter Deadshot with a character like Batman for example.
If you block, you still take damage.
You try to get close to him with a roll, he just rifle spams you.
Darkseid is just as bad if not worse than Deadshot.
i've watched players on Twitch do nothing but spam Omega beams with the opponent being helpless against it.
AngryBeaver30 Do you really think they would create a zoner like this without out giving everyone else options???by that logic your speaking are you implying it's impossible to get in and bodie this Character.
Tweek the su Fantic Well how do you dodge constant projectiles when blocking, jumping, and rolling don't work?
With these being your only movement options for combat characters like Batman, you're pretty much screwed.
AngryBeaver30 walk and duck ,walk and duck you will low profile the projectiles.With Batman wait for your trait to kick in use the bats to apply pressure to gives more freedom to move.If your trait lands your able to use your meter burn pulling rope to stun him and combo,at this point the only thing you have to worry about is the low bullets block thoes and stay low.
AngryBeaver30 It's literally a game of patience and descsion making,also bait he's wake up attack for a full punish keep him lock down....you have 200sec to close the gap make it count
Will you still play Flash, Bee?
that was close to pig of the hut level when it comes to zoning on that first match and that's not a complimate. Nevertheless, you're the number flash player, bring that flash out please! whenever you get a chance
Marlon Oneal Deadshot is meant to be played from far
Marlon Oneal nah zyphox is better that's why he went to deadshot
i find it funny in this match deadshot a character people asume is op, is against an acctual op hero
deadshot is such a fun character to use but i feel so guilty when i choose him
i just feel they should either patch his recovery OR meter gain on chip. one or the other
Dude NRS how do you fight that? His shots have no cool down.
Inc nerfs for sure!!
well after watching Sonic fox and now honeybee playing Deadshot, I guess I'll just have hit the lab. the zoning is crazy, looks like theres barley any opportunity to jump over and looks like he can still catch you mid air if you do. mb roll seems like a waste of meter to do it constantly, solid chip on mb. man, he can even combo you if he catches you in mid air with projectiles from almost full screen.. I smell a nerf in the making
That recovery is too fast. I wonder whos a good countrr pick
I don't see anything wrong with deadshot. He has shot in the name not "deadcombat" or anything related to what Robin and Batman can do in the game
What's the difference between spamming and zoning! You can either take the L or you play the character like he was designed and if you are against him work around beating him. Too much salt. Too much excuse.
The57 I would like to see your videos against deadshot in ranked sir ...
lilskills721 I use bane! In injustice 1 deathstroke was one of his nightmare matchups but it was still possible to win, if you put the time in, work hard and train at the things you like, "spamming" becomes trivial for a short amount of time. With that said I'm not blind and I can see most people choosing deadshot not because of his unique gameplay but just spam bullets to win and tbh I feel that if you HAVE to do this to win every single match then mentally I've won because I'm not the player relying on OP one shot tactics to win every game, you might win the battle but you lose the war as you don't gain anything? What are you learning? Nothing.
People are compaining that Deadshot uses his guns too much? Thats like if you complained the flash for being too quick or agile. That's the whole point.
i think you're really good with deadshot (my main ) but you don't use a lot of his basic opening kicks and punches. if you use those you can unload on someone without zoning. you've got his ranged attacks down though
Yo HoneyBee i want you to play Pig Of The Hut's Fate !
Honestly, I think alot of people who complain about Deadshot is still somewhat use to being able to run (MKX) in to get in on people. But now since there is no run mechanic, it's harder now. But honestly, they could take some of the recovery frames away, if they nerf him, because honestly he recovers really fast on some of them.
im pretty sure that robbin pressure was fake
yeahhhh
It's sad because I wish it was real :(
What do u mean by fake?
NapppyNegus it's something that you shouldn't let your opponent get away with. Like kung Lao ex hat in mkx. ex db1 was plus but not plus enough to guarantee anything so if you keep pressuring that's fake pressure
its just something not plus that people respect which they shouldnt
Everyone saying he's spamming to much or zoning doesn't know anything I mean it may be annoying but you wouldn't be complaining if you knew how to play against it😂😂keep doing what u doin honey bee💪🏿💪🏿💯
Preach!
how are you supposed to do anything with a steady stream of bullets constantly flying at you? there's no gaps, and when you close in, the spammer can just grab or do some other cheap shit
The simple term for that is called: "Complaining."
Kizzainpleh Walk in, mb roll in, jump in, dash in. You have loads of options. And if you get in range and allow him to grab you its your fault not his. Stop complaining and get good.
Tyrese Oswald you can do all that except for he just gonna back up once he hits you, and zone. Look at how fast his guns are, and the recovery for it wtf. You almost always gonna jump right into his shot.
Zoning may be considered cheap, but it is a strategy nonetheless. That's why NRS included a MB dodge roll in this one to get past Zoning.
The people who like deadshot in this game loved jax and Jackie in MKX
What happened to Matthew Mercer voicing this guy?
Still is but they add a filter over his voice
TQT1995 Dang, I hope there's a way to remove it. The original voice was so cool
where's flash bee?
The problem isn't deadshot. It's how they game favors zoners. You don't get bar by blocking only by taking damage. So you can't block, roll in with the bar you got then beat him up. You HAVE to take damage before you can roll in. Which is incredibly stupid.
this is how to prooerly use Dead Shot, keep your opponent at bay and if they get close punish with a combo. Most Dead players sit in the back and spam projectiles without strategy.
Oh and don't get me wrong, I play canary and I fucking hate deadshot...
thought sonic would pick this character
Netotigr is that you?? lol
Deadshot isn't even overpowered, he's meant to be a zoner. If you can't deal with simple zoning, you need to get better at the game. Like SERIOUSLY better.
The reason people complain about zoners is because on MKX there were so few of them online because all people did was cheap jump-ins and wake-ups, without any experience in properly playing the game. It's okay to keep your distance, and zoning doesn't make you a noob in the slightest.
Yeah I like the zoning chars I think characters need a way to get in though.
why does no one use finishing moves in ranked?
MystiCalBEING89 you mean super moves? It's flashy but tbh you could probably get more out of your meter if you use them in a combo and meter burn not to mention you can block the super moves and that's a pretty big gamble
zoning zoning just zoning. why netherealm?
wait is it 30fps on regular ps4 or 60?
Thank God.. ILY
A dominant close range fighter vs a zone fighter. Still don't see how it was an unfair fight.
I love this. Also, for those who call him a spammer, go nerf Green Arrow, Black Adam, and even Aqua-mans "poke-poke-poke" before saying Dead-Shot needs a nerf
I would be so salty if I versed someone like this
His concussive ammo is really strong. Crazy knockback, I have a feeling that'll be nerfed somewhat.
honeybee new main ?
I would say deadshot needs a nerf on his meter build and chip Damage but he definitely doesn't the reason being the new meter burn roll mechanic in this game makes it extremely easy to get in on zoners i found it in the lab and been shitting on all the people picking him ranked trying to get easy wins
That Batman match was clean af
that spam is really strong jeez
The problem isn't that zoning exists, it's that it's easy to do, and hard to counter. I completely agree that zoning has its place in a fighting game, and that players who think they're better just because they do combos are laughable, but this is ridiculous. I could practice Deadshot for 10 minutes and beat a decent percentage of players on ranked. You can say that those players are scrubs and need to learn how to counter it, but it doesn't change the fact that an entry level player playing against an entry level Deadshot will lose. You have to be careful and methodical to get in on him, and he's just mashing special moves and occasionally backdashing. The skill gap is soulcrushing. And that's not even mentioning his staggerable safe 50/50 that puts you back at fullscreen if you guess wrong. He requires less skill to win with than other characters, and that's never a good thing for a competitive title. Maybe increase his recovery so he's easier to get in on, maybe add a tutorial for newer players to help them get around zoning, I don't know what the best idea is. But they need to do something, otherwise this game will be the same 3 or so characters fighting each other forever. Why have 29 characters in your game if people are only going to pick one.
You know a character is god tier when a guy who mainly plays rushdown characters is using him
i dont play this and im gonna get into it but if hes a pro gamer at this why is he running and spamming? street fighter pros all have actual fighting skill
god damn i don't even have this game yet but deadshot seems either TOO OP or too easy to use or the player is a fucking god