@@AttackHelicopter321 re your response to @DavidWilson-hd6iz: "... (The Jesuits) were infiltrated because they were so good." Spot on! The prince of deception has always - but ALWAYS! - used every (dirty) trick in the book to undermine God, to usurp His authority. We must remember that the deceiver tempted God Jesus Christ, and to do so he even quoted Holy Scripture! Point is, the devil uses duplicity and deceit to trap the lambs of the Shepherd. He puts on the fleece of a sheep to mingle with the flock, and then - once he's gained their confidence with his sheep-ish behaviour and appearance - and then, he lures them to leave the security of the sheep fold on their own, of their own volition! That's how the flock is ravaged - by the enemy within. In this particular instance the Jesuits (founded: 1540 AD) were singled out because they were at the vanguard of the Church in its most tumultuous times. They were justifiably considered the "shadow cabinet" of the pope. So, yes, the Jesuits were infiltrated because they were so good. Even today, not all Jesuits are enemies of the Church. And equally to the point - there are many priests and religious of other orders and congregations who are equally "inimical" to the Holy Mother Church. (See! We don't honour just the BVM! ) So the label "enemy of the Church" is not the exclusive entitlement of the Jesuits. All in all, there are good Jesuits, there are bad Jesuits. I have had my share of both. In fact I consider it a blessing (and of course an honour!) to have been "taught" ("educated" is the right term) by the Rev. Fr. A.J. Wilzbacher, S.J. here in Jaipur, India. Also, Rev. Fr. Wilmes, Rev. Rev. Fr. Richard A. Pereira (all Jesuits). I must make special mention of Rev. Fr. R. Keating, S.J. who was my parish priest prior to my family moving to Jaipur. Fr. Keating was a priest's priest, a Jesuit's Jesuit. Always on the go, strict when strictness was needed, gentle and considerate otherwise. Truly orthodox. (Just for completeness, I must make mention of the Carmelite (brown scapular, no less!) nuns who catechised me in the faith.) As for the other type of Jesuits, well, we have them here in Jaipur in good number, no less! In conclusion, the stereotype of bad Jesuits is truly becoming the norm with special mention of course of Rev. Fr. James :Jimmy" Martin, S.J.! HC-JAIPUR (12/Jan/2025) . .
@@AttackHelicopter321 One trend I've noticed regarding history is westernized nations love to infiltrate pure grass root movements and sabotage from within while retaining the original goals of the group as cover for their more nefarious ideological goals... It's a great tactic that's been used on repeat for centuries since no one bothers to acknowledge it.
It is a long-held belief of Jesuits that a Jesuit should never be a Pope. This belief is based on the fact that St Ignatius of Loyola didn't want Jesuits to be bishops. The reason was because he was worried that his men might secretly harbour ambitions to become bishops, and thus go against the spirit of humility. He was also concerned that a bishop would have to stay in his own diocese, whereas the Jesuit vocation was to the whole world. Even today Jesuits promise not to aspire to higher offices, whether inside the Order, or in the Church at large.
francis had to recieve a special dispensation to become a bishop....Francis isnt exactly an intellectual ...he didnt finish his Phd....i dont see him as a classic jesuit...
When a priest of a religious order becomes a bishop, his vow of obedience to his religious superiors are automatically dispensed. Once appointed and consecrated, the Pope is the bishop(s)’ new superior.
When I was an altar boy, my priest was a Jesuit, who was extremely serious about the Faith. He made such a favorable impression that I myself entertained the idea of becoming a Jesuit. What a shame to see the condition and state they've been reduced today.
Fr. Much Pacwa, Fr. Robert McTique and Fr. Joe Fezio are all exemplary orthodox Jesuits among those who have handed the reputation of the Jesuits. Fr. Richard Drinan SJ actually served several terms in Congress before Pooe JPII learned shout it and told him to get out of politics or give up his reshoot. Drinan & John Courtney Murray, both Jesuits joined rebel Charles Curran visited the a Kennedy avimiiud to teach them liberalism after JFK Was elected. That’s why the family favors “reproductive rights” but Robert prays the rosary. Rose Kennedy, the matriarch would be appalled.
During my brief time as an altar boy, our parish priest, Fr Tierney was a Jesuit. He was a wonderful, compassionate, intensely faithful man. He was the epitome of what a good, Godly priest was supposed to be. The Jesuits of today are ruining the Church.
The local NO parish has a visiting ex-Jesuit who ad libs the mass, teaches heresy from the pulpit and wears Bermuda shorts outside of mass. I stopped going to that parish because going to mass was like Russian Roulette, never knowing beforehand if he would be saying mass. My heart would sink every time he would appear. The final straw for me was when he said on Easter Sunday that "we don't know what Resurrection means because there were no witnesses!" I kid you not, he never spoke of the bodily Resurrection and the witness of the Apostles. I was outraged. Supposedly he left the Jesuits because he wanted some pet dogs which was against the vow of poverty.
Vow of poverty? If vacationing in the South of France and drinking $400 bottles of wine in London restaurants is poverty, count me in. "Sounds like a good time, Father Mike."
He's probably saying that because the Bible isn't clear whether it's a resurrection as a spiritual body or the physical body. Both forms of resurrection are present in the Bible. The physical resurrection by all appearances is later, leading scholars to believe its a development, upon which can only be concluded that those stories including the physical resurrection are inventions, hence no real witnesses. This isn't to say there is no resurrection of a spiritual body, which was presumably witnessed by some, but we have no idea who they are and we don't have their testimony about it.
In 1980 at Xavier University, I complained in person to the Jesuit dean that the Jesuit priest that taught my theology class was teaching that lacked basic faith in the Bible and that his instruction undermined said basic Christian beliefs. After some polite and understanding hand wringing by the Fr. I was sent on my way.
@@butterflybeatles the Jesuits were expelled during the liberal revolutions in a variety of countries. Their original effectiveness and orthodoxy to Catholicism made them targets of the liberal reform of countries. Mention the years they were expelled. All the mid to late 1700s.
It's not a sin to question the pope. Especially when he does and says things contrary to the faith. It's wrong to hide behind papal authority because people are too faint of heart to call out evil and call it being obedient.
as a postscript to my note below, I have to say that I have met some beautiful and saintly Jesuit souls as priest and brothers in the Society were truly sons of St. Ignatius of Loyola. They truly believed in doing all things in Christ for the Greater Glory of God.
Until a few years ago, a local parish in my city was staffed by Jesuits. There were some who were actually solid, orthodox priests but they were a minority. Interestingly, the more orthodox Jesuits were either the very oldest or the very youngest.
Interesting testimony. Even though I never experienced Jesuit education in Ireland, I can relate. I remember being told in 80's that the church allows us to believe in evolution or adam and Eve. Looking forward to your future audios.
A major part of the issue is the priest shortage since it leaves a lot of Jesuit institutions under the de facto administration of people who aren't priests and it allows heretic/schismatic priests to leverage the fact that they offer clerical/pastoral labor at all.
💯 Saint Robert Bellarmine and other great Jesuit saints of the old glorious days must be crying in heaven when looking down and seeing the corrupted and heretical / apostated state of today's Society. Bergoglio is just the tip of the iceberg. The Society has been so corrupted for a few centuries now. Pope Saint Pius X should have suppressed them again (permanently and perpetually) during his reign.
Not only Jesuits from the old days, but also in our times. Fr John Hardon, Servant of God, would be crying too. Author of the Modern Catholic Dictionary, friend of Cardinal Burke, outstanding theologian, and known for his untiring work in the vineyard of the Lord. After all he had done, towards the end of his life he was sidelined and treated badly by his Jesuit brothers, as were numbers of other Jesuits who remained faithful and resisted the modernist trends infecting the Society of Jesus.
It's pride! Satan fell because of pride. He used pride to deceive Eve and Eve fell because of it. Check into the lives of all those who failed in their Catholic Faith at one time or another. Beneath all the veneers of their "pious teachings" which they promote with great vehement we shall discover pride. And "like Lucifer they fall in flames" - Les Miserables.
I attended a Jesuit high school and can say the theologians who taught me were some of the most sound Catholic teachers. They adhered to strict orthodoxy. None of the things this gentleman experienced were even in the realm of things I experienced. I would say he and I had completely different experiences.
i am not a catholic but i went to st peters prep a jesuit high school. what i saw was that the jesuit fathers devoted all their time to our education and to their calling . this was the 90s....what was annoying was their virtue signalling if you want to call it that. they were social justice warriors before the term even existed. im sure anyone who went to a jesuit high school remembers the term the preferential option for the poor. i never saw any abuse or anything bad. the purpose of the jesuits originally was to be the intellectuals of the church and to be obedient to the pope. this veered off when they become social justice warriors .....perhaps a return to that would be good. its ironic you have a pope who is a justice warrior and who is not an intellectual ( the Pope didnt complete his Phd in germany)
When one reads Dostoevsky (late 19th century) they might think he hates Catholics when in fact he hates Jesuits. I don't know if he knew the difference, although I imagine he did, but the Jesuits pretending to be Catholic really hurt the perception of the Church.
Recently read a book from a Jesuit priest, Father Walter Czicek (sp?), called “In Russia with God” (also wrote “He Leadeth Me”). It’s a compelling story, and initially I was amazed at his perseverance in Faith, and how even in the most devout, pious of us we are weak in the end. Lately, my thoughts may have changed, because the level of detail given in the book is biblical in many ways, almost like a narrative to re-center the Jesuits. Maybe I’m wrong. I have a friend whose brother is a Jesuit trained priest, and his mother was almost communist in her way of thinking (in my opinion). Then, she would say things like she’s pro-life, and everyone thought she was a traditional catholic. It’s crazy the times we’re living in.
Following on from my post below, I am heartened by your passion for your cause, but even though I know where you’re coming from, I wouldn’t be prepared to pray for the suppression of this Royal and ancient Order founded by the great St Ignatius. Rather, I will pray for the many good Jesuits who I believe are trapped in the Order and are probably enduring a living hell at the hands of their corrupt devious fellow priests (?) who doing everything they can to drag the Order down. Almighty God will arm these good priests with what they need to bring His Will into the situation and purify the Order once more. If your heart is aching under the current regime, think of what good Jesuits like Fr Mitch from EWTN must be suffering and how hard they must be praying for the preservation of and restoration of the Order. Pray to God day and night if you have the endurance, but not for the suppression of the Order, as that would only serve to mark a win for satan. God bless to all
Why would you send your son to Regis if you had a bad experience of being taught heresy?! St. Isidore has a school. My friend sends her son to that SSPX school.
Do you know the Jesuits used to be spiritual directors for the Carmelites? I wonder if the young seminarians of the Jesuits are aware of what you are saying?
I got sucked into the modernist progressive philosophy and left the Catholic Church. I remember the day when God graced me with the gift of faith - it washed over me like a wave. I KNEW that Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and the Holy Eucharist is indeed the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Imagine my surprise when I discovered the Jesuit, Pope Francis, was not Catholic.
At this time, your commentary appears valid. In some ways I join you in tarring all with a large brush. Your reference to Chardin is one justification.
Fr. Martin in his book “The Jesuits” wrote that their greatest strength was also their greatest weakness. The irony is that the one responsible for the deaths of so many of his fellow Jesuits is now the Pope. How is that even possible?
Thank you for this information. Although I did receive a scholarship to a Jesuit college, I instead chose to attend a Holy Cross school, before transferring to a Diocesan University. My High School was Diocesan, and we were introduced to de Chardin, although all I can remember is that his timeline of history was somehow different. (I was unimpressed.) In college, de Chardin was again mentioned, but we spent more time on Kierkegaard. and his guy, Sisyphus rolling a rock up a hill. Fortunately, I also received useful information on the Jewish prophets in the Old Testament, as well as a scholarly approach to the Gospels. Sixty years ago, I was taught that the Jesuits were elite. I now believe that they are garbage.
Many of them were in fact brilliant. But that has been changing slowly already prior to WW I still almost imperceptibly, but from about 1920ies onwards it autocatalytically cascaded. Now we have the evil fruit visible to all in Vatican! Apage Satanas 😈
This was really interesting. I went to a Jesuit college and I had completely lost my faith. To be fair, I was losing it earlier during the most boring masses imaginable with the worst guitar player. But I became a type of socialist after college. The classes taught every religion except Catholicism and favored liberation theology. I never saw the connection until now.
I worked for 2.5 years at Verbum Dei High School, which belongs to the Archdiocese of Los Angeles but is operated by some members of the local Jesuit house; there I observed some of what you mentioned here. I must point out that I got to meet and chat with the house's superior (who had no assignment at VDHS), and he seemed very orthodox (unlike my Jesuit co-workers).
And guess what? Isn’t Cdl. Bergoglio a Jesuit? No wonder the church in Rome is in its current state. Catholic Esquire, do you know anything about the “Black Pope”? I have heard of it but I don’t know much about it-I thought it was associated with the Jesuits.
The Jesuits were formed to SERVE the Pope, not BE the Pope. Their formation originally included never seeking or taking higher office. As for the Black Pope, that term refers to the Superior General of the Society of Jesus. Now people can understand why.
The Father General of the Jesuits has, colloquially, ben called the “Black Pope.” I would presume that this goes back to when the Jesuits were seen as the Pope’s “shock troops,” which is way in the past now.
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends
"Yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god." Exhortation to the Heathen by St. Clement of Alexandria
When pride gets to the head, we'll get Humpty Dumpty. Lucifer fell; Eve fell, Henry VIII fell. Beware of the serpent; it's everywhere in high places - "institutions of '-ire' learnings". 😂
Not a catholic, not my circus. But, why would an organization create or allow within itself another organization with the expressed purpose of disrupting the mother organization??? Y'all be trippin
Nick. It is good that you are viewing orthodox Catholic material. Attend the Latin Mass to fully understand Jesus Christ and His Church. Join our Holy Society.
The expressed purpose of the Jesuits *isn't* to disrupt the Catholic Church. While the Church is always eternal, Christians are always imperfect. Only Christ and the Virgin Mary are perfect humans. This includes the Pope and other clergy; there's an imperfect inclination to the Good that only God can remedy. However, God operates in cooperation with free will because freedom is a good and even errors can be overcome in the grand scheme because of Christ, whose unjust suffering at the hands of people who claimed to love God culminated in the Crucifixion. There's nothing new under the Sun. People are still Fallen even though the Church has done so much to make the world a better place.
The replies to you aren’t helpful, so I will address your question directly. The order, like the Catholic clergy, was infiltrated by communists in the 1930’s. See Bella Dodd’s return to the Catholic faith and her revelations to Fulton J Sheen. The Jesuit Order was infiltrated by Liberation Theology heretics in the 20TH century. Part of the reason was their laudable aversion to the exploitation of Central American countries for their resources, a problematic outcome of capitalism, which if not regulated property, produces bad outcomes at the expense of people, which the Church has long held that workers, for the sake of family values, have a right to a living wage. But in no way does Church social teaching endorse the atheistic concept of Communism and its relative, Socialism. The key to understanding what happened to the Jesuits is the pernicious ability of political ideologues to infiltrate and take over institutions and organizations. Nobody does this better than communists do.
Great video CE, so sad that the Popes Men were infiltrated. They were once the Special Forces, so what better order for the enemy to attack. Tyrrell, Chardin, Rahner Arrupe were the willing operatives.Thanks for sharing. Pax Christi
Why were the Jesuits expelled from the most Catholic countries? Why did one pope even outlaw them altogether? Perhaps the answer will give us a clue as to the modern Jesuits. Any scholars out there?
They were good Jesuits expelled for the wrong reasons, not like today. Why don't you be a scholar yourself and do some research. Easy to do these days, plenty of information out there.
@@Mar--Mar I know one thing and that the Jesuits were not subject to a Bishop but were subject directly to the pope. That means they could do their own thing?
Some well-healed South American parents avoided sending their sons to the Jesuit schools by importing Christian Brothers from Ireland to set up schools. This is why the sport of Rugby became so popular in South America.
They are/or were. I went to a Dominican primary and middle school. We were a minimum of two years ahead of the public schools. I ended up going to a public high school. Otherwise I would have been going to aforementioned Jesuit school because it had merged with the all-girls high school. My daughter went to a Dominican school in primary before I moved to another state. She still had a good base. Now I don't know what they're like.
There's an interesting lecture series by Rudolf Steiner called 'The Occult Movement in the Nineteenth Century' which goes into detail of the conflicts between Freemasonry and Jesuitism.
RS is an interesting contrapunct to the Catholic philosophy. But it requires sufficient care to handle him without injury. Be careful with his evolutionary constructs.
@@paulfaigl8329 There's nothing to be careful about with 'involution' or his work on the evolution of souls or soul development. Theosophy are the ones with the issue around evolutionary constructs. It was Steiner that had to put forth the Rosicurcian view to mend what Theosophists couldn't understand.
@@paulfaigl8329 There's nothing to be careful about with 'involution' or his work on the evolution of souls or soul development. Theosophy are the ones with the issue around evolutionary constructs. It was Steiner that had to put forth the Rosicurcian view to mend what Theosophists couldn't understand.
No Catholic should be reading the esoterist and occultist Steiner, or giving him even the slightest endorsement. The Church has always condemned the teachings of such people, and has repeatedly warned the faithful about the dangers of Gnosticism, Esotericism, Occultism, Hermeticism, Theosophy, Anthroposophy and the like, which are all gateways to the sphere of influence of the Evil One.
@@Mar--Mar Steiner gave talks to Catholic priests in September 1924 regarding the apocalypse. There are audio covers of the lectures on youtube... There's nothing wrong with Steiner.
I do not understand what these so called Jesuit in your town is doing, or what you are saying is true. Because I was not educated in the Jesuit school you went to and I can't say anything about it, but it sounded like you taking your negative experience in your specific Parochial school and paint an ugly picture to defame the entire US group of Jesuit Order from your poor experience with just one Jesuit school and making an assumption of the whole Jesuit Order. you may make it a bit convincing for some of your US audience if you work intensely with other Jesuits in other state in the US preferably in their seminary or directly supporting their seminary in a charitable way, maybe, you will get a better understanding of what the Jesuit Order is all about. Obviously you have not experienced the real Catholic Jesuit teachings in Asia like I did. Nothing like what you said. Totally opposite. They (Jesuit University) even welcome students who are from protestantism and teach them Catholicism, Theology, Salvation History, performing charitable works to the community they belong to, praying the Rosary, worship God, ask for forgiveness through confessions and attend Catholic Sunday mass. Etc. That is why I know that you are defaming the Jesuit Order with little experience that you have had. I feel sorry for your bad experience, but it is recommended for you and your family to travel far and wide to other countries if possible and experience Jesuit life in-depth for a long period of time like years of experience before start speaking about the good and bad things of Jesuits. Not all apples that look the same will taste the same, some may be dry, others may be juicier, sweeter or more tangy and some may already been rotten from within the core. So it is not wise to sum up your single experience with one school location to that of the entire Jesuit Order in the whole world. Travel and learn, you will be pleasantly surprised that what's out there is not what you thought it to be. Peace. God bless.
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Congar and Chenu were Dominicans, so called Most Orthodox. Today even they (like Gregory Pine for example) pussy foot around the H-word, saying that calling Wojtyla what he is, an apostate, is like antifa or woke breaking Fr. Serra's statue. Bugnini - Vincentian - Sayegh Melkite. The apostasy was universal, all went along and still persevere in it, including 99% of trads today. This is just an attempt to smear one order not making any distinction between true and false Church or religious, probably because people want to feel better about themselves, see, a Jesuit became pope and here we are (he didn't become). And also because OP wants to justify his own falling for the great apostasy in the false Church with anecdotes from it.
Fr. Pine is a brilliant and holy man. But he pope-splained Fiducia Supplicans and took down a post about CDL. Radcliff telling us to read Broke Back Mtn. Are they uninformed or deceitful?
Since it sounds like you may be the only real Catholic left in the world, does it really matter if anyone makes distinctions on which order someone belongs to?
And the greatest Jesuit enemy of the Roman catholic church is the formally heretical cardinal Bergolio who , given pope Benedicts failed resignation attempt , has never validly or licitly occupied the See of St Peter.
and how do you expect single women to support themselves if they don't work i you are against women having careers? do you realize this mentality started in the 1950s
They have faults but if you’re too scared to accept evolution as a Catholic and are fearful of scientism to the point where you can’t honestly confront the evidence than you’re lost.
Darwinian evolution is a lie from the devil. It's so obviously a lie and false, that's it's difficult to even understand how anyone could fall for it as hard as Teilhard did if there was not major demonic influence involved.
@ obviously a lie and false yet there is an incredible amount of corroborated evidence based on physical evidence like fossils for its existence. Even small test samples of short lived organisms like fruit flies have been shown to experience evolution in labs. I imagine it’s hard to understand because you have forced yourself into a demonic ultimatum of God’s existence based on a small thing like evolution…
@@catholicesquire obviously a lie and false yet there is an incredible amount of corroborated evidence based on physical evidence like fossils for its existence. Even small test samples of short lived organisms like fruit flies have been shown to experience evolution in labs.
@@catholicesquire I imagine it’s hard to understand for you because you have forced yourself into a demonic ultimatum of God’s existence based on a silly thing like evolution…
@@catholicesquirewhat’s there to say? You’ve plugged your ears and denied insurmountable evidence because you’re afraid of God being able to be proven wrong? You don’t know God, he is incapable of being proven wrong
I really wonder about Loyola. He was actually a Basque. I know the Basque people have the largest population of the RH neg blood, they have managed to maintain their historical language that no one uses , along with their traditions. How did Loyola get involved with the Catholic Church? Another thing is that BASQUE are now considered part of the lost Atlateans. Rh neg people have a tendency to have psychic abilities. The first infamous witch hunt was in Ziggamundi. Theres very little info on this. Just like the Sicilian Vespers. I'm wondering if this is part of the Jesuit rebellion today.
Add a strange experience with one you seem to have gotten angry with me and he was sending some kind of a trance and I said can I help you and I get and a very toned voice cuz I didn't like the way he was approaching me and he snapped out of it he said no and then turn around and walked away as if he didn't even know what he was doing
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Am I supposed to believe that the fact that Loyola was found to have ties to a gnostic sect called the alubrados is just a weird coincidence? I don't think so.
@tombretislow7091 So they're pushing a secular form of gnosticism and their founder had ties to a gnostic sect and it's all a coincidence? I don't think so. The truth is that the RCC was taken over at the Renaissance and that hermetic symbol in the middle of St Peter's square - an abomination to God - testifies to that
Having infinite dignity doesn’t negate original sin, that’s just bad thinking. It’s important to have humility. Almost every thing I hear from this channel is just utter nonsense. Self reflect much? Or are you always right?
I personally don't like the Jesuits particularly, primarily because of their involvement in the inquisition, and the fact that they arose from converted Jews at a time in Spain in a period of social tumult that occurred when Isabelle and Phillip were putting their foot down about religious devotion, is anathema. Perhaps they shouldn't be affiliated with the catholic Church at all. Given the significance of the Trinity in Catholic teachings, it surprises me that Jesus actually got a chance to be represented within the religious and spiritual dealings of the church. I say this because, Christ's real teachings are not represented by the catholic church, in their purest form. Indeed the catholic church could be accused of directing followers down the wrong spiritual path for where it has lead them away from a relationship to god and closer to a relationship with a religion. There is plenty of evidence that Jesus in the embodiment of Christ encouraged his acolytes to recognize that part of their spiritual selves which was indeed an aspect of God (not Yahweh). That to achieve a state of spiritual understanding and perhaps even redemption, that the light of spiritual understanding and achievement must be sort and acquired within each person. In doing this, salvation from the harsh reality of a physical existence may be possible. Christ said to the apostles, you are the light of God, each of you are an aspect of God. In other words each soul within a living being is part of the collective consciousness which together is the light of god. That the kingdom of god was indeed to be found in side each of us, with spiritual awakening.
The sole purpose of Christianity is theosis: that is becoming god. This is the call of Catholicism as stated in the catechism. I find your refutation of this concerning..
@ both are true. As we are told by church fathers “God became man so man can become God” this is why Jesus invites us in revelations to share His throne for those who endure till the end.
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends
The Jesuits were great monks in the past ,they made great contribution to the world.. They were infiltrated by people who we cannot mention.
they were never monks but educators and missionaries
They were never monks.
The Jesuits got lost in a labyrinth of their own sophistry. They need to repent and return to the Faith.
The humble heart ❤️ is the most difficult thing.
No they were infiltrated because they were so good
@@AttackHelicopter321 re your response to @DavidWilson-hd6iz: "... (The Jesuits) were infiltrated because they were so good."
Spot on!
The prince of deception has always - but ALWAYS! - used every (dirty) trick in the book to undermine God, to usurp His authority.
We must remember that the deceiver tempted God Jesus Christ, and to do so he even quoted Holy Scripture!
Point is, the devil uses duplicity and deceit to trap the lambs of the Shepherd. He puts on the fleece of a sheep to mingle with the flock, and then - once he's gained their confidence with his sheep-ish behaviour and appearance - and then, he lures them to leave the security of the sheep fold on their own, of their own volition! That's how the flock is ravaged - by the enemy within.
In this particular instance the Jesuits (founded: 1540 AD) were singled out because they were at the vanguard of the Church in its most tumultuous times. They were justifiably considered the "shadow cabinet" of the pope.
So, yes, the Jesuits were infiltrated because they were so good.
Even today, not all Jesuits are enemies of the Church.
And equally to the point - there are many priests and religious of other orders and congregations who are equally "inimical" to the Holy Mother Church. (See! We don't honour just the BVM! ) So the label "enemy of the Church" is not the exclusive entitlement of the Jesuits.
All in all, there are good Jesuits, there are bad Jesuits. I have had my share of both. In fact I consider it a blessing (and of course an honour!) to have been "taught" ("educated" is the right term) by the Rev. Fr. A.J. Wilzbacher, S.J. here in Jaipur, India. Also, Rev. Fr. Wilmes, Rev. Rev. Fr. Richard A. Pereira (all Jesuits).
I must make special mention of Rev. Fr. R. Keating, S.J. who was my parish priest prior to my family moving to Jaipur. Fr. Keating was a priest's priest, a Jesuit's Jesuit. Always on the go, strict when strictness was needed, gentle and considerate otherwise. Truly orthodox.
(Just for completeness, I must make mention of the Carmelite (brown scapular, no less!) nuns who catechised me in the faith.)
As for the other type of Jesuits, well, we have them here in Jaipur in good number, no less!
In conclusion, the stereotype of bad Jesuits is truly becoming the norm with special mention of course of Rev. Fr. James :Jimmy" Martin, S.J.!
HC-JAIPUR (12/Jan/2025)
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@@AttackHelicopter321 One trend I've noticed regarding history is westernized nations love to infiltrate pure grass root movements and sabotage from within while retaining the original goals of the group as cover for their more nefarious ideological goals...
It's a great tactic that's been used on repeat for centuries since no one bothers to acknowledge it.
@@AttackHelicopter321bottom line they became prideful.
It is a long-held belief of Jesuits that a Jesuit should never be a Pope. This belief is based on the fact that St Ignatius of Loyola didn't want Jesuits to be bishops. The reason was because he was worried that his men might secretly harbour ambitions to become bishops, and thus go against the spirit of humility. He was also concerned that a bishop would have to stay in his own diocese, whereas the Jesuit vocation was to the whole world. Even today Jesuits promise not to aspire to higher offices, whether inside the Order, or in the Church at large.
francis had to recieve a special dispensation to become a bishop....Francis isnt exactly an intellectual ...he didnt finish his Phd....i dont see him as a classic jesuit...
i am not joking about this francis said he is against clericalism among new priests and careerism but he literally went against order to do just that
When a priest of a religious order becomes a bishop, his vow of obedience to his religious superiors are automatically dispensed. Once appointed and consecrated, the Pope is the bishop(s)’ new superior.
@@CatholicTraditional its redundant in this case.....jesuits take an extra vow obedience to the pope ?
the real question is are u loyal to ur dioscesan archbishop or jesuit superior
My dad left a Jesuit high school in his senior year (1959) because of the abuse from the priests. The corruption has been deep and long for decades.
By 1959,the rot was already present.
@LUIS-ox1bv Yes, it was. Some of the things my dad and grandparents told were horrible.
@@digitalgypsy1961 Was it sexual abuse or excessive abusive discipline?
When I was an altar boy, my priest was a Jesuit, who was extremely serious about the Faith. He made such a favorable impression that I myself entertained the idea of becoming a Jesuit. What a shame to see the condition and state they've been reduced today.
You have seen nothing yet...read Benjamin Fulfort 's intel
Fr. Much Pacwa, Fr. Robert McTique and Fr. Joe Fezio are all exemplary orthodox Jesuits among those who have handed the reputation of the Jesuits.
Fr. Richard Drinan SJ actually served several terms in Congress before Pooe JPII learned shout it and told him to get out of politics or give up his reshoot. Drinan & John Courtney Murray, both Jesuits joined rebel Charles Curran visited the a Kennedy avimiiud to teach them liberalism after JFK Was elected. That’s why the family favors “reproductive rights” but Robert prays the rosary. Rose Kennedy, the matriarch would be appalled.
Can't wait to get on board.... Please get starte..
During my brief time as an altar boy, our parish priest, Fr Tierney was a Jesuit. He was a wonderful, compassionate, intensely faithful man. He was the epitome of what a good, Godly priest was supposed to be.
The Jesuits of today are ruining the Church.
Me too
The local NO parish has a visiting ex-Jesuit who ad libs the mass, teaches heresy from the pulpit and wears Bermuda shorts outside of mass. I stopped going to that parish because going to mass was like Russian Roulette, never knowing beforehand if he would be saying mass. My heart would sink every time he would appear. The final straw for me was when he said on Easter Sunday that "we don't know what Resurrection means because there were no witnesses!" I kid you not, he never spoke of the bodily Resurrection and the witness of the Apostles. I was outraged. Supposedly he left the Jesuits because he wanted some pet dogs which was against the vow of poverty.
Was he speaking of the act of Jesus coming back from death and leaving the tomb as opposed to His appearance to the Apostles?
Vow of poverty? If vacationing in the South of France and drinking $400 bottles of wine in London restaurants is poverty, count me in. "Sounds like a good time, Father Mike."
Pride, brother. Pride 🌈
Did he wear a HAT as ludicrous as the buffoon doing this video? I hope not. That is the silliest HAT I have EVER seen. I kid you NOT.
He's probably saying that because the Bible isn't clear whether it's a resurrection as a spiritual body or the physical body. Both forms of resurrection are present in the Bible. The physical resurrection by all appearances is later, leading scholars to believe its a development, upon which can only be concluded that those stories including the physical resurrection are inventions, hence no real witnesses. This isn't to say there is no resurrection of a spiritual body, which was presumably witnessed by some, but we have no idea who they are and we don't have their testimony about it.
I once met a Catholic Jesuit. Even he didn’t trust the jesuits.
Lol! I love this but it's sad/true.
Was he a third order something?
In 1980 at Xavier University, I complained in person to the Jesuit dean that the Jesuit priest that taught my theology class was teaching that lacked basic faith in the Bible and that his instruction undermined said basic Christian beliefs. After some polite and understanding hand wringing by the Fr. I was sent on my way.
Modern Jesuits, not true Jesuits.
They're all the same these days.
@@elvisnnaemeka6722 nope, a wolf is not a shepherd
I don't see the "old" Jesuits returning any time soon.
@@catholicesquire so you think the world is ending? Cause I have hope.
The Jesuits went from Christian missionaries to Modernist missionaries. And now one sits on the Throne of Peter as a counterfeit, an anti-pope.
If they were such wonderful missionaries how come they were expelled from so many Christian countries?
@@butterflybeatles the Jesuits were expelled during the liberal revolutions in a variety of countries. Their original effectiveness and orthodoxy to Catholicism made them targets of the liberal reform of countries. Mention the years they were expelled. All the mid to late 1700s.
@@butterflybeatlesbecause they became modernist
It's not a sin to question the pope. Especially when he does and says things contrary to the faith. It's wrong to hide behind papal authority because people are too faint of heart to call out evil and call it being obedient.
Go to confession! Respect the Holy Father!
These are the religious Jedi. But now they are on the dark side with Palpatine (Satan).
The corruption of the best is the worst
Very good! Malachi Martin’s book “ The Jesuit’s” is a great read. Gives a great history and shows where they went wrong.
@@johncollins537 Malachi Martin was part of the problem, and not admired by Fr John Hardon SJ, Servant of God.
as a postscript to my note below, I have to say that I have met some beautiful and saintly Jesuit souls as priest and brothers in the Society were truly sons of St. Ignatius of Loyola. They truly believed in doing all things in Christ for the Greater Glory of God.
Until a few years ago, a local parish in my city was staffed by Jesuits. There were some who were actually solid, orthodox priests but they were a minority. Interestingly, the more orthodox Jesuits were either the very oldest or the very youngest.
Interesting testimony. Even though I never experienced Jesuit education in Ireland, I can relate. I remember being told in 80's that the church allows us to believe in evolution or adam and Eve. Looking forward to your future audios.
A major part of the issue is the priest shortage since it leaves a lot of Jesuit institutions under the de facto administration of people who aren't priests and it allows heretic/schismatic priests to leverage the fact that they offer clerical/pastoral labor at all.
💯 Saint Robert Bellarmine and other great Jesuit saints of the old glorious days must be crying in heaven when looking down and seeing the corrupted and heretical / apostated state of today's Society. Bergoglio is just the tip of the iceberg. The Society has been so corrupted for a few centuries now. Pope Saint Pius X should have suppressed them again (permanently and perpetually) during his reign.
Not only Jesuits from the old days, but also in our times. Fr John Hardon, Servant of God, would be crying too. Author of the Modern Catholic Dictionary, friend of Cardinal Burke, outstanding theologian, and known for his untiring work in the vineyard of the Lord. After all he had done, towards the end of his life he was sidelined and treated badly by his Jesuit brothers, as were numbers of other Jesuits who remained faithful and resisted the modernist trends infecting the Society of Jesus.
It's pride! Satan fell because of pride. He used pride to deceive Eve and Eve fell because of it. Check into the lives of all those who failed in their Catholic Faith at one time or another. Beneath all the veneers of their "pious teachings" which they promote with great vehement we shall discover pride. And "like Lucifer they fall in flames" - Les Miserables.
I wonder if The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Jesus Christ should be restored and set against this internal enemy
Cardinal Burke is possessed by an unclean spirit. Arrogance. Boastful, he embraces the sin of pride.
I attended a Jesuit high school and can say the theologians who taught me were some of the most sound Catholic teachers. They adhered to strict orthodoxy. None of the things this gentleman experienced were even in the realm of things I experienced. I would say he and I had completely different experiences.
You were lucky. Imagine you got as your teacher Pacapapa 😈 Francis or as a dean of study the handsome (???) James Martin 😺😂😺
So too w/my Jesuit education until ‘73 when the entire Church went Modernist along w/them. Then all hell broke loose&!they went “woke.”
i am not a catholic but i went to st peters prep a jesuit high school. what i saw was that the jesuit fathers devoted all their time to our education and to their calling . this was the 90s....what was annoying was their virtue signalling if you want to call it that. they were social justice warriors before the term even existed. im sure anyone who went to a jesuit high school remembers the term the preferential option for the poor. i never saw any abuse or anything bad. the purpose of the jesuits originally was to be the intellectuals of the church and to be obedient to the pope. this veered off when they become social justice warriors .....perhaps a return to that would be good. its ironic you have a pope who is a justice warrior and who is not an intellectual ( the Pope didnt complete his Phd in germany)
That's not exclusive to Jesuit education these days. At this point that's the Church of Vatican II education overall.
When one reads Dostoevsky (late 19th century) they might think he hates Catholics when in fact he hates Jesuits. I don't know if he knew the difference, although I imagine he did, but the Jesuits pretending to be Catholic really hurt the perception of the Church.
Dostoyevsky is definitely anti-Catholic which is obvious from some of his writings, no mention of Jesuits. I wouldn't be making excuses for him
Dostoyevsky's virulently anti-Catholic outbursts make no mention of Jesuits.
@@lukejohnson1274 Dostoyevsky was point blank Anti-Catholic without any mention of Jesuits.
As an Orthodox Christian, I am saying AMEN to this channel.
It's good to be Orthodox ☦☦☦
Recently read a book from a Jesuit priest, Father Walter Czicek (sp?), called “In Russia with God” (also wrote “He Leadeth Me”). It’s a compelling story, and initially I was amazed at his perseverance in Faith, and how even in the most devout, pious of us we are weak in the end. Lately, my thoughts may have changed, because the level of detail given in the book is biblical in many ways, almost like a narrative to re-center the Jesuits. Maybe I’m wrong. I have a friend whose brother is a Jesuit trained priest, and his mother was almost communist in her way of thinking (in my opinion). Then, she would say things like she’s pro-life, and everyone thought she was a traditional catholic. It’s crazy the times we’re living in.
Following on from my post below, I am heartened by your passion for your cause, but even though I know where you’re coming from, I wouldn’t be prepared to pray for the suppression of this Royal and ancient Order founded by the great St Ignatius.
Rather, I will pray for the many good Jesuits who I believe are trapped in the Order and are probably enduring a living hell at the hands of their corrupt devious fellow priests (?) who doing everything they can to drag the Order down.
Almighty God will arm these good priests with what they need to bring His Will into the situation and purify the Order once more.
If your heart is aching under the current regime, think of what good Jesuits like Fr Mitch from EWTN must be suffering and how hard they must be praying for the preservation of and restoration of the Order.
Pray to God day and night if you have the endurance, but not for the suppression of the Order, as that would only serve to mark a win for satan.
God bless to all
I went to Catholic school all the way from kinder to highschool in the 80s and 90s...was not even taught the rosary.
I was not taught nor encouraged to pray the Rosary in Jesuit High School either.
Why would you send your son to Regis if you had a bad experience of being taught heresy?! St. Isidore has a school. My friend sends her son to that SSPX school.
Saint Francis Xavier, pray for us! Saint Isaac Jogues, pray for us! 🙏
St Francis Borgia SJ, pray for Jorge Bergoglio SJ aka Francis!
James martin and BERGOGLIO PACHAMAMA Must be Removed !
He is a jew
Do you know the Jesuits used to be spiritual directors for the Carmelites? I wonder if the young seminarians of the Jesuits are aware of what you are saying?
It's great to be Orthodox! ☦☦☦
I got sucked into the modernist progressive philosophy and left the Catholic Church. I remember the day when God graced me with the gift of faith - it washed over me like a wave. I KNEW that Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and the Holy Eucharist is indeed the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Imagine my surprise when I discovered the Jesuit, Pope Francis, was not Catholic.
Good on you❤❤❤
If the Jesuit Order is NOT Catholic, what religious label will you give them?
@@giveonly apostates
At this time, your commentary appears valid. In some ways I join you in tarring all with a large brush. Your reference to Chardin is one justification.
In 1995, i received an MA in Religious Studies from Loyola University of the South; I reflect back to that program. It was quite orthodox.
You might have been quite lucky then considering the bulk.😮😢😮
Fr. Martin in his book “The Jesuits” wrote that their greatest strength was also their greatest weakness. The irony is that the one responsible for the deaths of so many of his fellow Jesuits is now the Pope. How is that even possible?
its an excellent book ...he basically says they veered into social work and lost their obedience to the pope
Tarring an entire order with the same brush, based primarily on personal experience, is unethical and extreme.
Thank you for this information. Although I did receive a scholarship to a Jesuit college, I instead chose to attend a Holy Cross school, before transferring to a Diocesan University. My High School was Diocesan, and we were introduced to de Chardin, although all I can remember is that his timeline of history was somehow different. (I was unimpressed.) In college, de Chardin was again mentioned, but we spent more time on Kierkegaard. and his guy, Sisyphus rolling a rock up a hill. Fortunately, I also received useful information on the Jewish prophets in the Old Testament, as well as a scholarly approach to the Gospels.
Sixty years ago, I was taught that the Jesuits were elite. I now believe that they are garbage.
Many of them were in fact brilliant. But that has been changing slowly already prior to WW I still almost imperceptibly, but from about 1920ies onwards it autocatalytically cascaded. Now we have the evil fruit visible to all in Vatican! Apage Satanas 😈
I think one of the regular priests on EWTN is a Jesuit.
Yes, Mr Nice Guy Fr Pacqaw.
Something like that. I know who you are talking about.
Everyone seems to Ador him.
He is into Hunting and Fishing.
Yes he is a good Jesuit God bless him.
Fr Pacwa and Fr Spitzer both Jesuits and don't fit this description, hopefully there are good Jesuits.
@@RJ-bu6es Mitch Pacwa SJ
They’re modernists.
This was really interesting. I went to a Jesuit college and I had completely lost my faith. To be fair, I was losing it earlier during the most boring masses imaginable with the worst guitar player. But I became a type of socialist after college. The classes taught every religion except Catholicism and favored liberation theology. I never saw the connection until now.
I have prayed for their suppression but it can not happen under the main Jesuit who wields the power of the papacy.
Today:
Jesuit Schools
Versus Catholic Schools.
Most Catholic Schools these days are Versus Catholic Faith, no different from Jesuit Schools.
Most Catholic Schools today are Versus the Catholic Faith, same as Jesuit Schools.
As a Catholic revert, I just want to say - thank you for being bold for Christ and Our Lady!
As we say in Britain: Keep Calm and Suppress the Jesuits.
What you tell also mirrors my experience. Very well spoken!
It’s funny how many of my favorite fervent Catholics are former atheists/agnostics. We all have such similar backstories.
Or Anglicans. 😅
I worked for 2.5 years at Verbum Dei High School, which belongs to the Archdiocese of Los Angeles but is operated by some members of the local Jesuit house; there I observed some of what you mentioned here. I must point out that I got to meet and chat with the house's superior (who had no assignment at VDHS), and he seemed very orthodox (unlike my Jesuit co-workers).
Yes. There might have been an occasional oase of true Faith and living example of it.
@The Catholic Esquire who is the woman in the picture over your left shoulder? I recognise everyone else.,😊 your video just popped into my feed.
Saint Mother Cabrini.
Yes. I pray some scholar does a detailed history of the Jesuits that show the exact occurence of events that led them to their current state.
I am waiting on this, too.
Read "The Jesuits" by Father Malachi Martin.
M.M. Was in the club as well…👁️
Not true 🙏.
Very true.
Perhaps you should do a documentary on the Jesuit Order and how they degenerated into the state they are in now.
Thank you for the insight. Subscribed to the podcast. God Bless.
Thank you.
And guess what? Isn’t Cdl. Bergoglio a Jesuit? No wonder the church in Rome is in its current state.
Catholic Esquire, do you know anything about the “Black Pope”? I have heard of it but I don’t know much about it-I thought it was associated with the Jesuits.
I heard that Bergoglio was a Jesuit when he became the “pope.”
The Jesuits were formed to SERVE the Pope, not BE the Pope. Their formation originally included never seeking or taking higher office. As for the Black Pope, that term refers to the Superior General of the Society of Jesus. Now people can understand why.
@@lorih9182 Thanks
The Father General of the Jesuits has, colloquially, ben called the “Black Pope.” I would presume that this goes back to when the Jesuits were seen as the Pope’s “shock troops,” which is way in the past now.
🎼 Imagine all the Jes-uuits … teachinggg the Caaath’lic Faith 🎵
Funny!!
What's with the hat? It detracts from your credibility when you dress in a costume.
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends
5:05 If im not mistaken, theosis is an integral part of Catholic teaching, that man, through Christ, become God insofar as God became man.
"Yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god."
Exhortation to the Heathen by St. Clement of Alexandria
Man is deified as a creature of which he or she always remains. This is a misinterpretation. We share in the divine nature.
@dianneraimondi8382 That's not what it looks like to me. Do you have any evidence to help correct my alleged misunderstanding?
This is some seriously kooky stuff.
You speak the truth !!!! Amen !
When pride gets to the head, we'll get Humpty Dumpty.
Lucifer fell; Eve fell, Henry VIII fell.
Beware of the serpent; it's everywhere in high places - "institutions of '-ire' learnings". 😂
What Jesuit school did you go to? Sounds like bs
Not a catholic, not my circus.
But, why would an organization create or allow within itself another organization with the expressed purpose of disrupting the mother organization???
Y'all be trippin
Nick. It is good that you are viewing orthodox Catholic material. Attend the Latin Mass to fully understand Jesus Christ and His Church. Join our Holy Society.
The expressed purpose of the Jesuits *isn't* to disrupt the Catholic Church. While the Church is always eternal, Christians are always imperfect. Only Christ and the Virgin Mary are perfect humans. This includes the Pope and other clergy; there's an imperfect inclination to the Good that only God can remedy. However, God operates in cooperation with free will because freedom is a good and even errors can be overcome in the grand scheme because of Christ, whose unjust suffering at the hands of people who claimed to love God culminated in the Crucifixion.
There's nothing new under the Sun. People are still Fallen even though the Church has done so much to make the world a better place.
The replies to you aren’t helpful, so I will address your question directly.
The order, like the Catholic clergy, was infiltrated by communists in the 1930’s. See Bella Dodd’s return to the Catholic faith and her revelations to Fulton J Sheen.
The Jesuit Order was infiltrated by Liberation Theology heretics in the 20TH century. Part of the reason was their laudable aversion to the exploitation of Central American countries for their resources, a problematic outcome of capitalism, which if not regulated property, produces bad outcomes at the expense of people, which the Church has long held that workers, for the sake of family values, have a right to a living wage. But in no way does Church social teaching endorse the atheistic concept of Communism and its relative, Socialism.
The key to understanding what happened to the Jesuits is the pernicious ability of political ideologues to infiltrate and take over institutions and organizations. Nobody does this better than communists do.
Teilhard de Chardin had a great influence on V 2. Especially Gaudium et spes
Enough said.
I went to zjesuit school and none of this was my experience at all.none ofit
Great video CE, so sad that the Popes Men were infiltrated. They were once the Special Forces, so what better order for the enemy to attack. Tyrrell, Chardin, Rahner Arrupe were the willing operatives.Thanks for sharing.
Pax Christi
@@chrisschoonmaker4068 Von Balthazar
This one time where the joke applies : is the pope catholic( he is jesuit)
Why were the Jesuits expelled from the most Catholic countries? Why did one pope even outlaw them altogether? Perhaps the answer will give us a clue as to the modern Jesuits. Any scholars out there?
They were good Jesuits expelled for the wrong reasons, not like today. Why don't you be a scholar yourself and do some research. Easy to do these days, plenty of information out there.
@@Mar--Mar No. They weren't expelled from many countries because the countries and a pope got it wrong.
@@butterflybeatlesOK then, provide evidence. Name the countries and the reasons.
@@Mar--Mar I know one thing and that the Jesuits were not subject to a Bishop but were subject directly to the pope. That means they could do their own thing?
@@butterflybeatles Doing what the Pope wants is certainly not "doing their own thing".
Absolutely, Amen! Thank you,God bless 🙏!
Are there good Jesuits?
There certainly have been in the past, and there may be a few left. But the Society as a whole is corrupted beyond recognition.
@@catholicesquiredid you go to Regis?
Clement XIV abolishment should’ve remained. In the period of their abolishment they lost what it meant to be a Jesuit.
Some well-healed South American parents avoided sending their sons to the Jesuit schools by importing Christian Brothers from Ireland to set up schools. This is why the sport of Rugby became so popular in South America.
I thought that the Order of Preachers Dominicans were big on education too?
They are/or were. I went to a Dominican primary and middle school. We were a minimum of two years ahead of the public schools. I ended up going to a public high school. Otherwise I would have been going to aforementioned Jesuit school because it had merged with the all-girls high school. My daughter went to a Dominican school in primary before I moved to another state. She still had a good base. Now I don't know what they're like.
There's an interesting lecture series by Rudolf Steiner called 'The Occult Movement in the Nineteenth Century' which goes into detail of the conflicts between Freemasonry and Jesuitism.
RS is an interesting contrapunct to the Catholic philosophy. But it requires sufficient care to handle him without injury. Be careful with his evolutionary constructs.
@@paulfaigl8329 There's nothing to be careful about with 'involution' or his work on the evolution of souls or soul development. Theosophy are the ones with the issue around evolutionary constructs. It was Steiner that had to put forth the Rosicurcian view to mend what Theosophists couldn't understand.
@@paulfaigl8329 There's nothing to be careful about with 'involution' or his work on the evolution of souls or soul development. Theosophy are the ones with the issue around evolutionary constructs. It was Steiner that had to put forth the Rosicurcian view to mend what Theosophists couldn't understand.
No Catholic should be reading the esoterist and occultist Steiner, or giving him even the slightest endorsement. The Church has always condemned the teachings of such people, and has repeatedly warned the faithful about the dangers of Gnosticism, Esotericism, Occultism, Hermeticism, Theosophy, Anthroposophy and the like, which are all gateways to the sphere of influence of the Evil One.
@@Mar--Mar Steiner gave talks to Catholic priests in September 1924 regarding the apocalypse. There are audio covers of the lectures on youtube... There's nothing wrong with Steiner.
Well said Sir, thank you.
I do not understand what these so called Jesuit in your town is doing, or what you are saying is true. Because I was not educated in the Jesuit school you went to and I can't say anything about it, but it sounded like you taking your negative experience in your specific Parochial school and paint an ugly picture to defame the entire US group of Jesuit Order from your poor experience with just one Jesuit school and making an assumption of the whole Jesuit Order. you may make it a bit convincing for some of your US audience if you work intensely with other Jesuits in other state in the US preferably in their seminary or directly supporting their seminary in a charitable way, maybe, you will get a better understanding of what the Jesuit Order is all about. Obviously you have not experienced the real Catholic Jesuit teachings in Asia like I did. Nothing like what you said. Totally opposite. They (Jesuit University) even welcome students who are from protestantism and teach them Catholicism, Theology, Salvation History, performing charitable works to the community they belong to, praying the Rosary, worship God, ask for forgiveness through confessions and attend Catholic Sunday mass. Etc. That is why I know that you are defaming the Jesuit Order with little experience that you have had. I feel sorry for your bad experience, but it is recommended for you and your family to travel far and wide to other countries if possible and experience Jesuit life in-depth for a long period of time like years of experience before start speaking about the good and bad things of Jesuits. Not all apples that look the same will taste the same, some may be dry, others may be juicier, sweeter or more tangy and some may already been rotten from within the core. So it is not wise to sum up your single experience with one school location to that of the entire Jesuit Order in the whole world. Travel and learn, you will be pleasantly surprised that what's out there is not what you thought it to be. Peace. God bless.
I guess you never notice what they say in real time.
Praying for a consciousness of illumination worldwide for humanity to return to the Sacred Dogmas of the one and true Apostolic Catholic Church! Salve Maria and Viva Christo Rey!✝️🕊️📿🙏❤️
Former President Carter himself chose the song Imagine for his funeral.
So what? Carter wasn't Catholic either.
The Logos as He is already IS cosmic. Don’t know how Teilhard muffed that one up. But he did.
Congar and Chenu were Dominicans, so called Most Orthodox. Today even they (like Gregory Pine for example) pussy foot around the H-word, saying that calling Wojtyla what he is, an apostate, is like antifa or woke breaking Fr. Serra's statue. Bugnini - Vincentian - Sayegh Melkite. The apostasy was universal, all went along and still persevere in it, including 99% of trads today. This is just an attempt to smear one order not making any distinction between true and false Church or religious, probably because people want to feel better about themselves, see, a Jesuit became pope and here we are (he didn't become). And also because OP wants to justify his own falling for the great apostasy in the false Church with anecdotes from it.
Fr. Pine is a brilliant and holy man. But he pope-splained Fiducia Supplicans and took down a post about CDL. Radcliff telling us to read Broke Back Mtn. Are they uninformed or deceitful?
Since it sounds like you may be the only real Catholic left in the world, does it really matter if anyone makes distinctions on which order someone belongs to?
And the greatest Jesuit enemy of the Roman catholic church is the formally heretical cardinal Bergolio who , given pope Benedicts failed resignation attempt , has never validly or licitly occupied the See of St Peter.
and how do you expect single women to support themselves if they don't work i you are against women having careers? do you realize this mentality started in the 1950s
I believe being a housewife should be a career option.
Thank you
His adversaries derailed the supposed defenders of the Catholic Church?
They have faults but if you’re too scared to accept evolution as a Catholic and are fearful of scientism to the point where you can’t honestly confront the evidence than you’re lost.
Darwinian evolution is a lie from the devil. It's so obviously a lie and false, that's it's difficult to even understand how anyone could fall for it as hard as Teilhard did if there was not major demonic influence involved.
@ obviously a lie and false yet there is an incredible amount of corroborated evidence based on physical evidence like fossils for its existence. Even small test samples of short lived organisms like fruit flies have been shown to experience evolution in labs. I imagine it’s hard to understand because you have forced yourself into a demonic ultimatum of God’s existence based on a small thing like evolution…
@@catholicesquire obviously a lie and false yet there is an incredible amount of corroborated evidence based on physical evidence like fossils for its existence. Even small test samples of short lived organisms like fruit flies have been shown to experience evolution in labs.
@@catholicesquire I imagine it’s hard to understand for you because you have forced yourself into a demonic ultimatum of God’s existence based on a silly thing like evolution…
@@catholicesquirewhat’s there to say? You’ve plugged your ears and denied insurmountable evidence because you’re afraid of God being able to be proven wrong? You don’t know God, he is incapable of being proven wrong
Yes to all of it..
I really wonder about Loyola. He was actually a Basque. I know the Basque people have the largest population of the RH neg blood, they have managed to maintain their historical language that no one uses , along with their traditions. How did Loyola get involved with the Catholic Church? Another thing is that BASQUE are now considered part of the lost Atlateans. Rh neg people have a tendency to have psychic abilities. The first infamous witch hunt was in Ziggamundi. Theres very little info on this. Just like the Sicilian Vespers.
I'm wondering if this is part of the Jesuit rebellion today.
Pure schizo posting
@revelation20232 sounds like a Jesuit response
A person's nationality or ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Anyone can answer the call of God and become a Saint, no matter what their background.
I’m AB- what does that mean?
Add a strange experience with one you seem to have gotten angry with me and he was sending some kind of a trance and I said can I help you and I get and a very toned voice cuz I didn't like the way he was approaching me and he snapped out of it he said no and then turn around and walked away as if he didn't even know what he was doing
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Well done. Quite sad, n'est-ce pas?
You are right
Am I supposed to believe that the fact that Loyola was found to have ties to a gnostic sect called the alubrados is just a weird coincidence? I don't think so.
The modern Jesuits are the opposite of what Loyola intended
What about modern Day Dominican, Franciscan? Trappist, etc. I bought a coffin from a Trappist shop in Iowa. Am I to assume I lost my money? Help!
I heard someone say that Original Sin depends on how “original “ you want to be.
Do you know the Jesuit who is a member of EWTN? A regular host?
@tombretislow7091 So they're pushing a secular form of gnosticism and their founder had ties to a gnostic sect and it's all a coincidence? I don't think so. The truth is that the RCC was taken over at the Renaissance and that hermetic symbol in the middle of St Peter's square - an abomination to God - testifies to that
Figures it would be like this
100 cousins and uncles?
1:25 back then they defended the faith? Who said that?
Good defence. We are attacked locally within the diocese by these.types wielding.power behind the scenes
Having infinite dignity doesn’t negate original sin, that’s just bad thinking. It’s important to have humility. Almost every thing I hear from this channel is just utter nonsense. Self reflect much? Or are you always right?
You don't have infinite anything! God alone has infinite prerogatives.
I personally don't like the Jesuits particularly, primarily because of their involvement in the inquisition, and the fact that they arose from converted Jews at a time in Spain in a period of social tumult that occurred when Isabelle and Phillip were putting their foot down about religious devotion, is anathema.
Perhaps they shouldn't be affiliated with the catholic Church at all.
Given the significance of the Trinity in Catholic teachings, it surprises me that Jesus actually got a chance to be represented within the religious and spiritual dealings of the church.
I say this because, Christ's real teachings are not represented by the catholic church, in their purest form. Indeed the catholic church could be accused of directing followers down the wrong spiritual path for where it has lead them away from a relationship to god and closer to a relationship with a religion.
There is plenty of evidence that Jesus in the embodiment of Christ encouraged his acolytes to recognize that part of their spiritual selves which was indeed an aspect of God (not Yahweh). That to achieve a state of spiritual understanding and perhaps even redemption, that the light of spiritual understanding and achievement must be sort and acquired within each person.
In doing this, salvation from the harsh reality of a physical existence may be possible. Christ said to the apostles, you are the light of God, each of you are an aspect of God. In other words each soul within a living being is part of the collective consciousness which together is the light of god. That the kingdom of god was indeed to be found in side each of us, with spiritual awakening.
CALUMNY.
The sole purpose of Christianity is theosis: that is becoming god. This is the call of Catholicism as stated in the catechism. I find your refutation of this concerning..
Another 'boomer' comment.
Is your name Kamala?
@ no. My name is Disciple of Christ.
We don 't become God,we share as a creature, limitedly in God's divine nature.
@ both are true. As we are told by church fathers “God became man so man can become God” this is why Jesus invites us in revelations to share His throne for those who endure till the end.
Who would have thought having your own private Gestapo would turn out badly?
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends
Back then, i went to a high school ran by jesuits, and also happened to be randomly selected as "lucky few" that was taught by a jesuit priest about in-depth ignatian spirituality... At first I thought these people are strict, but eventually I could see the big picture. Even though I became agnostic at some point of my life, but eventually I returned to the Catholic Church. What the jesuit priest taught me back then, somehow, made me realize how much of a jewel he gave it to me and few others. Now I am trying to contact my old jesuit teacher to instruct me again.. Maybe not in person because he is stationed rather far, but more or less I want to share the experience with my apologist friends