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I think the question should be instead, who thinks the seats should be spread farther apart so people Can recline. They have smashed the seats so tight together. The geniuses who thought of this, probably ride on private planes.
The squashing of people into such tight spaces so that they almost have no choice other than to pay extra for sufficient space should be illegal. I'm sure they would charge extra for reclining seats if they could.
I was recently on a 4 hour flight and the person in front of me flung her seat back the minute she could and it stayed that way for the full 4 hours even when she fell asleep leaning forward up against the seat in front of her. I happened to be on a plane with very little leg room to begin with and was literally “held hostage” the whole trip. I couldn’t reach any bag by my feet or put the tray down. If they are going to reduce the legroom then they need to reduce the ability to recline. It was the worst flight
I'm with you on this. Mine was a small child whose parents put the seat back the moment they could, and she jumped around yelling the whole flight shaking the seat - which was in my face.
Imagine being a 6' tall, slender woman with 35" legs. Almost every flight has me feeling like I'm in a sardine can. I've had my kneecaps bruised several times! Sometimes my knees touch the back of the seat in front of me BEFORE the seat is reclined!
I agree! I had someone lie full back the whole flight and I could barely move in my seat. I thought every time I accidentally banged the seat in front of me, he might have considered raising his seat, but no he wasn't concerned about anyone else at all!!!
You should’ve called the flight attendant. That’s what I did during one of my trips, the seat in front of me was fully reclined while we were still eating. Luckily the flight attendant I called spoke to the passenger and the seat was adjusted.
Megan, your spilt coffee incident caused by you reclining your seat isn’t your fault. It’s the result of the airlines trying to maximize profits by cramming in as many seats as possible. Passenger comfort has nosedived over the years and questions about whether you should recline your seat have risen. I think you should be able to have enough space to recline your seat without bothering the person behind you. Is that too much to ask for?
I assumed that the reason for the spill in that case was the speed with which the tray table behind moved backward when Megan reclined her seat, not the amount of space available to the tray. Did I get that wrong?
the airlines are only doing it because there is a demand for cheap flights - you are free to buy a business class or first class ticket and have all the personal space you want. Most airlines operate on a razor-thin margin, which is why airlines go bankrupt or require bailouts and cutbacks so often. Why don't YOU start a non-greedy airline that offers Ryanair fares, Emirates comfort and pays fair salaries? Should be easy, right, just don't be greedy?
@@igorbednarski8048 Airlines don't make money, the main reason is they are so poorly mismanaged and use multiple types of planes. It has nothing to do with razor-thin margins, those are the faults of the airlines. It has to do with pure greed. But you are correct, if you don't like it, take a train, or bus, or upgrade. Nobody is forcing anyone to fly.
It's impossible. It's an example of shrinkflation - airlines squeeze more seats to get more people onboard to earn more money. They would never go back
One that I think people dont think about is loudly talking or laughing on an overnight flight. Last Sep I took a flight from Denver to London. It was an overnight so the plane was dark everyone was trying to sleep. There was a woman in the center of the plane watching something and would laugh so loud it would wake everyone up and she even made a baby cry from startling it. Im not talking about a little giggle either, she was cackling and screaming. This went on for an hour and I believe FAs stepped in after she was asked by her seat mates to keep it down and she started laughing louder and more raucously. Then on the same trip but return flight a trio of women in front of my husband and I were meeting for the first time and loudly discussing their drunken exploits on various trips. They started ordering alcohol and sounded like they meant to party. my whole row just looked at eachother like we were in for a rough flight. I think the FAs caught on and cut them off after the meal service and said it was a drink max policy. No idea if that policy actually exists but thank the stars for the FAs
One of the best flights I've ever had was in the passenger section of a C-5 Galaxy. Outside of little heating, and very loud engines requiring headphones over earplugs to make it bearable, as well as backwards facing seats, the leg room and such made it very comfortable. Doing an overseas flight was comfortable enough that I slept most of it.
@@tejloro Let's say they have to remove 10-15 8 seat rows ro give more room, I gues it would be more than $5. And on all their aircrafts? It would be millions of dolla4s in a very tight market.
Sad situation that we have to discuss seat recline rules. While I agree about recline slowly I don’t agree that you have to factor if person behind you has laptop or iPad. Sure if flight is less than 4 hrs long you wouldn’t need recline. But if it’s an overnight flight or a long flight try to get comfortable especially when the person in front of you has reclined. What I would suggest is that all the ceo and executive board fly a mandatory 11 hr flight in economy on their airplanes each month and when they suggest new seat layout configurations.
If another passenger asks you to lift the armrest, ALWAYS say NO! I am small, and have lost 1/2 or more of my seat to obese passengers raising the armrest. This results in back and neck pain due to sitting crooked to get away from them. Never again!
I just read a comment somewhere else about a woman in that exact situation…she had hip pain for months after the unfortunate flight. And of course the airlines aren’t going to intervene or take any responsibility. Smh.
My wife and I once flew from Vienna to Bucharest on a very small plane. There were 6 rows of first class seats, while the rest of the plan was economy. It was a very full flight. We were seated in the first row behind first class. Now, I am a tall guy and muscular. When the passenger in the first class seat went to recline his seat, my legs were in the way. He kept trying to force his seat back but my long legs wouldn't let him. He was hurting my legs. I gently pushed the front of his seat and politely let him know that his seat had no where to go. He complained to the flight attendant who then looked at me and my legs. I asked her where should I put my legs? She smiled at me and told the gentleman that he needed to keep the seat upright. After she left, he tried a few more times. This time I was not so polite and really pushed his seat forward as he kept hurting my legs. I leaned forward and advised him to stop hurting me. Only then did he realize how big I was and his seat remained upright for the flight that was only a little over an hour long. I didn't like that I had to be stern with him but he was hurting me. (We would have upgraded to first class but there were no seats left. For all future flights on these small planes, we have learned to never book the seats directly behind first class!)
The seat can recline in its own space, like on Japan Airlines, i.e. the seat slides forward as it is reclined so the seatback would not intrude into the space behind. As for putting any part of your body, e.g. hair, hand, foot, into other people's space, that's just rude.
A woman in front of our seats suddenly reclined her seat while my mother was leaning forward to get something from her bag and got smacked in the head by the seat. When we told the woman to retract her seat and be more mindful next time not only did she get upset at us, the flight attendant noticed our dispute and proceeded to move my mother to a different seat on the plane as if she was the troublemaker! I guess I don't know what the etiquette is for seat reclining on air planes, but that scene has always stuck with me bitterly.
I have been hit in the head on several flights because as I am reaching down to get my bag out from under the seat, the person does a full, abrupt seat recline. Before I recline I always look back to make sure I never do that to another passenger. Common courtesy, patience, and awareness of others has gone, literally, out the window when it comes to air travel these days.
Don't touch or hit against the seat back of the person in front of you. There's just a thin piece of vinyl at the magazine net, or even if there is metal or hard plastic, every bump is felt. Don't grab headrests as you get up or walk by either, that shakes other people.
For people with bad backs, especially on a longer flight, being able to recline slightly really helps manage lower back pain. So many people have lower back pain, it’s very common.
I feel bad for people with bad backs but Megan is correct about the 4 times that seats should be on their upright position. I had a passenger in front of me recline their seat when my meal was serve on an international flight and nearly spilled my food and drinks. Just gotta ask and check the person at your back if it's ok to do so.
Depending on where the flight attendants are in distributing meals, the row in front of yours could have been served !5 minutes before your row. This was the case on my last flight and the family in front of me immediately put their seats back after finishing their meal. Not very considerate!
Yeah, i understand and feel your pain, but I have both back issues and bad knees, and I still will not recline on someone because I detest others reclining on me. The space received by the recliner is minimal compared to the space taken from the one behind. I say "Be Kind, Don't Recline!"
Just completed a 14 hour flight from New Delhi to Toronto on a B777ER. I had the aisle seat, as I always do. Next to me, in the middle a grossly overweight man SPREAD himself into half of MY seat by his body pushing the armrest into my ribs and leg. I told him that if he wanted/needed two seats, he should BUY them, not use half of mine. It was NOT a happy flight. As for reclining seats....if the aircraft is used exclusively for flights of 4 hours or less...it's NOT a big deal. Sitting for 14 hours in a seat that DOESN'T recline....would be a 'back-breaker'.
OMG ^^^ This! It is supremely rude to spread into my seat area, voluntarily or simply by being voluminous. Invading someone’s designated space is simply not okay. Period. Worst flight was next to a huge, linebacker of a man whose shoulders touched mine with his hands in his lap. Not his “fault,” but dang I had ZERO room. And as a person with claustrophobia issues, it was a rough 5 hours
Aisle seats generally also allow you to raise the aisle arm rest (activate a small hidden button), I do that often. Helps greatly in flight, also when the flight ends getting out of the seat.
@@JohnW118 I like to use arm rests for their intended purpose, and to NOT get my arm broken by a cart or a fat person in the aisle. I know that they go up, which is what I do when I get up for a walk on a long flight, or at the end of the flight.
At 68, I only fly business. If I can't afford business class, I can't afford to fly. The money saved by flying economy is not worth the discomfort and risk of physical injury.
So wait a-minute….If the person sitting behind he is playing a game on his laptop, he now owns and has control over my seat as well as his own 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Ha ha ha, I wrote the same thing and then I saw your post. We are on the same page. It is true though. I have to suffer because of a fricken laptop! No way.
While in flight, I always hold onto a drink on my tray because a recliner in front of you or even hitting some turbulence could cause a spill. Also, and although I never use a laptop on my tray or or recline my seat, I don't think it is the responsibility of a recliner to check behind first to see if it will inconvenience someone. Just IMHO.
I just finish my drink pretty fast to avoid any spillage in case of sudden turbulence or something. If I do have a cup of something on the tray table, I put the cup closer to myself instead of closer to the seat in front of me. No issue even if the person in front of me has reclined their seat. I personally absolutely need to recline my seat when traveling in general, on a flight I only have the seat upright during takeoff and landing, and during meal services, other than that it has to be reclined even on short flights due to me having severe pain in my spine (including neck), pelvic joints and hips (genetic condition) that makes it extremely painful for me to sit upright for more than just minutes at a time. Reclining means I can cope with extra painkillers, not reclining could mean having to go to hospital upon landing despite having taken my extra painkillers
I have no objection to seats reclining except for meals. I don't think it's unreasonable to have attendants ask that seats remain upright during meal service.
Worst reclining incident for me was on a chartered bus. The woman in front of me suddenly cranked backwards and pinned both my legs when she landed on my kneecaps. She did respond to my screams.
I had this happen on a flight once - the person in front did NOT respond to my protestations, even when I was trying to push on the seat at the same time to release my trapped legs!
That happened to me as I'm 5' 10" and I just started kicking the seat... I told the person who reclined that I could do this for the entire flight. Tall people have nowhere to put their long legs. I told her you will NOT lean on my legs for this entire flight.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with not reclining my seat because the person behind me wants to use a computer. I deserve to be comfortable even if they want to work the entire flight. Especially since they're probably reclining their seat while they're working on their computer.
Sorry, but I paid for my seat and I'm going to recline. Being upright in these four examples makes sense but I'm not going to be uncomfortable while someone does work or is drinking coffee. I'm a very considerate person and agree abt reclining slowly but people have to take responsibility for their own actions. I just don't understand why this is even a big discussion these days. When I'm on a flight, I fully expect the person in front of me to lean his chair back and I just deal with it.
I couldn’t care less if the person in front of me reclines. Doesn’t affect my meal or my using a laptop at all. Similarly, I couldn’t care less if the person behind me prefers that I remain upright. I pay for the seat, including it’s reclining feature, so I get to use it without consulting with anyone else. The only thing I do in this regard is recline the seat very slowly and gently, to be courteous.
Totally agree on the seat reclining. I never recline my seat out of respect for the person behind me. I was on a 11hr flight recently. The dude in front of me reclined back. I tried to be cool about it, but each time I wanted to get out of my seat, I had to do some creative contortions to get out and back in. Meals and snacks were interesting as well. I finally asked him to put his seat up when my wife had to get up to use the restroom. With their seat back there’s no room to get by. At the very least, I feel like a simple ask should happen. Like, “Do you mind if I recline my seat back?”to the person behind you.
I also never recline my seat because I know what it's like to have a reclining seat in front of you and I don't want to do the same out of respect exactly to the person behind me.
I’m here to tell you that non-reclining seats have arrived. I took a Volaris flight, Mexico City to Lima, 5 hours overnight. I was planning to get some sleep on the flight but the rock-hard plastic seats did not recline, not one centimeter! It was the most uncomfortable flight I’ve ever taken. There was only one cabin class on the flight so no option to pay for a more comfortable seat. The stingy amount of space between rows of seats was also to blame for the discomfort. If the airlines ever do eliminate reclining seats in economy/coach class you can be sure it will be for THEIR benefit and profit. It will have nothing whatsoever to do with passenger comfort or safety. Blaming the growing number of people flying for more crowded seating on flights is cheap way of passing the buck.
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It may be the Singapore Effect but I took a flight from JFK to PHX last week and the seatbelt sign stayed on the whole time. Also, I think the issue with drinks spilling when a passenger reclines is bad design and its on the airlines and aircraft manufactures to fix. I don't recline on planes anymore because the seat is equally uncomfortable no matter how I adjust it.
@@tj2375you really aren't, especially on newer jets the recline doesn't really eat into the space for the person behind you. I really don't care if the person in front of me reclines and I'm 6'3".
Unfortunately you cannot rely on everyone to be respectful. I am only 5'4" with no back pain but my husband is 6'5" and has had major back surgery. We always need to pay for larger leg room when he flies. I use my ipad on the tray table and do not like it when people push back in my space. I have never had a person look back to see what they are doing. We all want to be comfortable and I don't think some should compromise their comfort for the other passengers -- there are exceptions of course. Airlines need better seating so we do not have this discussion. Thanks for the opportunity to voice our opinions.
Maybe airlines can invest in seats that don't recline into the person behind area. I forgot which plane I was on but was impressed with the recline did not recline but rotated in the seat bucket.
BIG disagreement here @1:02 regarding checking the person behind using the plane as their office with an open laptop. Airline seats are built to recline, so if I take advantage of that feature, I do not care you are trying to use your flight time as an office. I consider that rude. I may need to use my flight time as rest. In my case I have a back that does not permit me to remain rigidly upright for the entire flight. Your rights to use your seat and tray do not extend into my seat area and how I use the features of my seat. Just sayin'...I won't rapidly recline; I generally go back half-way and do so slowly, but don't ask me to accommodate your failure to allow enough office time to complete your work before you board the plane. The purpose of a flight is to travel somewhere else, not as an individual's remote office, we are ALL on the same plane.
Reclining seats. Flights less than 4-5 hours okay to remove. Long haul flights, NO, NO, NO! Especially since someone is going get stuck in the middle seat, reclining is the only comfort. With so many airlines flying with worn out old seats, I am looking at US airlines, reclining maybe the only way to not hurt for days after a flight. Last time I flew American Airlines from ORD to Heathrow(~8 hours) the seats were so bad my hips hurt for 5 days afterwards.
I had a first class seat from Newark to Rome - and the seat was broken and so uncomfortable!! AA gave me a small voucher in compensation, but it didn't even cover the pain meds or chiro bill.
Thank you for your time and posting. Reclining wouldn't be a problem if US airlines didn't cram in as many seats as they could. I don't fly a ton (even though I am going to Vietnam in Sept. to see if I want to retire there), but I flew LATAM (Ecuador) Airlines and had no problem reclining my seat, and I had lots of leg room (at 6'2"). So the US airlines want to get rid of reclining yet they created the problem in the first place.
To be absolutely clear: if it is not a FFA RULE, then it is nothing more than Your personal opinion...Opinions are like watches, inasmuch as everyone that has one thinks their is correct.
My 6’4” frame prevented one person from reclining. After repeated attempts, I said, “Madame, those are my knees your attempting to recline into.” Problem solved.
I'm 6' 6" and I'm sitting right behind you, ... try guessing what happens to you when you recline your seat, ... you'll be challenged with more than just legroom, ...
@@Chrisoula17 ... That would be nice, but considering the price, probably not. My height isn't that exception in the U.S. ... seats should have more leg room.
For long-distance flights, I avoid the middle seat problems by paying the extra for premium economy and making sure I pick two across seats. To me, it is worth the extra dollars.
Reclining seats - those 4 times make absolute sense. Reclining is not a big deal to me on shorter flights, but on long haul it makes a big difference, especially to sleep. OR if the seat in front is reclining and I can't it could feel tight. I try to always remember to glance back before reclining rather than doing so abruptly. It would not ever have occurred to me to move an armrest next to another person. I think air travel is a place for "best behavior" mode and avoiding rudeness.
Some customers of size immediately lift so they can “fit” without being forced to buy the second seat. I’m not tiny, but I do fit easily and will lift the seat between my husband and myself. So we can spread into each other.
Being old school and grown in a family where good manners were paramount, I like quite much your tips and advices. Unfortunately in a society in decline and more and more lacking of good manners and coexistence principles among it's members, we have to be aware that very probable, we'll be involved in an unfortunate event when flying. Cheers and thank you!
There is just 2 rules needed for reclining: 1. The flight attendant is always right (for example not reclining during the start) 2. just talk to each other. Ask the person behind you kindly if it is okay. Being nice gets you so much further. I’ve asked the person behind me and we ended up in the same hotel. At the pool, the guy came up to me just to tell me that it’s okay for me to recline the pool chair too… that guy was a giant goofball 😂
Anybody who thinks recline should be removed has obviously never taken an 6+ hour red-eye flight... Even if not a red-eye, on a long flight sitting bolt upright will cause lumbar pain.
Not recline because someone has a laptop behind me?…once I’m in my seat I’m in…not checking for laptop users…however I will continue to recline slow for safety😊
Yes, I agree, nor are you required to be super-respectful of laptop users, imo. A laptop is a luxury, whether you are flying for business or pleasure. As a laptop user myself, I would not expect that someone in front of me should have to be worried about my use, at the expense of their own comfort. Although the laptop space might not be ideal, a reclined position still allows the tray behind me to be used. Honestly, my last trip was from the US to Turkey, something like 11 hours, and I used my IPad the entire flight, binge-watching my shows. 11 hours of not reclining, really?
@@tinapomfrey5412- Binge-watching on an iPad is a whole different thing than attempting to work on a laptop (and if you do both, you should realize that). Also, an iPad is not going to be caught up in the tray table indent and be broken as a laptop screen can be (and it has happened). Finally, 11-hour flights are an exception. With the average domestic flight time only 1.5 hours (in the US), there's absolutely no reason to recline your seat the paltry 5° they move. Finally, doing so without taking into consideration the passenger behind you for whatever reason - laptop use (or other tray use), person's height, or whether or not there's a bag under your seat is simply rude.
@@ashemoski , the use of the seat takes precedent over the use of the tray table, in my opinion. I agree that you should not recline during the 4 circumstances mentioned in the video, and that you should show courtesy when putting your seat into recline. However, it is absurd to expect the passenger in front of me, who paid for a SEAT, to accommodate my use of a laptop. That is rude and I don't think I am that special. If your worry is about the safety of the laptop...get an Ipad.
Don't spring back a reclined seat as well! No vaping! Cover your mouth when coughing or sneezing! Don't bring any smelly food on board! Please. And no political arguments while in flight
I have an extreme back issue & need to recline so I can arrange pillows in a way so that the pain is somewhat tolerable & always pick an aisle seat because of it. But I always go upright during take off/landing & meal times. Seats have been reclining since almost the beginning of air travel, so I don't understand why all of a sudden it's an issue for some people.
Well everyone will always complain of something and don’t do this and don’t do that but me for me I don’t care if anyone complains because I’m just gonna FART 💨😷
Passengers would be extremely appreciative if airlines would stop cramming them in like livestock, then expecting them to be happy, positive folks. I have never had a stranger allow me usage of an armrest when I am in the center seat. I always have the person in front of me recline, so it is impossible to retrieve any belongings stored under the seat. I’ve yet to see slow, careful reclining. Children seated behind me kick the seat and adults pull on the seat when getting in and out. All problems created by the airlines. Flights in economy are endured, not enjoyed.
I would not remove reclining in economy : it is extremely uncomfortable as it is! But yes, some people lack common decency with regards to etiquette in an airplaine.
No. They should not be removing the recliner feature on an airline in econmy. As one who is older, my lower back goes crazy on long haul flights without the recliner feature. Yes, after the Singapore airlines flight that suffered from recent turbulence and people have suffered life changing injuries including paralysis wearing your seatbelt is common sense.
I think airlines need to be accountable for how tight they’re packing people in. Rather than complaining at each other force the regulations to change so everyone can be comfortable again like it used to be that young folks have no clue of how nice it was to fly.
Actually your space is the space including the fact that the seat in front reclined. You can recline yours, too. I don't expect anyone to refrain for me. Normally, I recline just a bit during waking hours. I would recline more for sleeping. But let's all do it slowly, please.
Great list!! I've probably made a few of these mistakes....The BIGGEST One was when I had deplaned and realized I left my tablet in the seat pocket and rushed back onto the plane....SEVERAL minutes after all passengers had left...to try to get my tablet. Everything was cool, since one of the flight attendants was rushing up the aisle with my tablet as I busted back onboard and nobody wrestled me to the ground, but I now pay much better attention to keeping track of my own personal belongings
On my recent flight, the man sitting next to me, had some kind of clacker thing. He kept clicking away most of the trip. I thought he was afraid of flying. He had headphones on and watching something on the phone. I was so happy to get off that flight!
The cramped conditions are no fun for anybody with the current typical seat arrangements. Please consider not reclining your seat at all if the people behind you are tall. My husband is 6'3" (190 cm) and I'm 5'10" (178 cm). If you're tall, your legs will be touching the seats in front when they're in a full upright position. Once it's reclined, you're physically injuring the tall person behind.
On several flights, the seat in front of me was suddenly and rapidly reclined into my kneecaps! I had to either sit sideways, or with my legs spread far apart. Not exactly comfortable!
I'm a frequent LONG haul traveller (Western Australia to Ohio) sometimes enduring 16 hour stretches. PLEASE do not encourage airlines to eliminate the reclining option! I'll never be able to snooze on those flights again 😫
I usually choose an aisle seat, being able to move the armrest is handy as you can just move a bit without feeling trapped. Most problems arise when folk don’t pay attention to things like the safety video. We owe it to each other on a plane to be civilised and should always be polite to the staff who do an amazing job.
If a passenger wsnts darkness they should bring their own "Sleep Mask, Eye Mask for Sleeping". Just because they want to sleep does mean I want to sleep.
Perhaps if they can update the design of seats so that when you recline, the seat moves forward slightly might make it better for everyone, instead of the seatback just reclining back. I've been on flights where similar things have happened (in one case, a guy sort of "Fell" into his seat causing the person behind them to spill their drink). I wonder if perhaps if it would be possible to make it so the seats cannot be reclined quickly, but rather more slowly despite you perhaps pushing on it. For the phone/valuables thing, just do a quick check when you get up... make sure you have all of your stuff. I think the one time I left something on a plane was back in 2012 when I left a small (cheap) camera on the plane (not a huge deal if I lost it as it was a disposable camera anyway with nothing on it but if I had done a quick check before le aving the plane, I would not have had this happen so it's now become part of my routine when departing planes, cars, or even public transportation).
Although you should be courteous to everyone around you, the fact that you paid for that seat should allow you to use the seat features as you please. As long as the guy behind me isn't kicking or hitting my seat, personally I don't pay attention to what's on his tray table or what he's doing in his space.
I totally agree about not reclining during meal service (and on long-haul flights in recent years I've noticed cabin crew ask passengers to raise their seatbacks, even waking passengers to do so, at meal times). However, I totally *disagree* about not reclining if someone's using a laptop or device - I mean, sure, if you're not trying to sleep and you otherwise don't need to recline, then fine, don't do it just because. But some passengers watch films and the like for the entire duration of a flight - so are you just never meant to recline? Again, I'm mostly thinking of long-haul flights here, especially overnight ones. I think it's entirely fair to recline when the cabin is dimmed for 'night' whether or not the person behind you is using a laptop or similar.
Couldn't agree with you more. We mostly do long haul flights and I would NEVER worry about someone having a laptop behind me that makes me not recline to sleep. Putting the chair up for a meal would be no problem but most people don't so I don't worry about it much if the person in front of me is reclined for the meal. It doesn't make it that much harder to eat your meal.
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I think the question should be instead, who thinks the seats should be spread farther apart so people Can recline. They have smashed the seats so tight together. The geniuses who thought of this, probably ride on private planes.
There is usually an economy+ where you can get that. Airlines have discovered that most people shop by price rather than by seat pitch.
The squashing of people into such tight spaces so that they almost have no choice other than to pay extra for sufficient space should be illegal.
I'm sure they would charge extra for reclining seats if they could.
@@PaulMansfield I'm sure you are right about that. Anything for a profit each year.
Next thing you know they’ll make everyone stand so no legroom is required.
It isn't an issue of reclining or not; it's an issue of shrinking seats and legroom. It's not on the passengers. It's on the airlines.
Yea and also I am gonna rip an air biscuit if I want too ....
I was recently on a 4 hour flight and the person in front of me flung her seat back the minute she could and it stayed that way for the full 4 hours even when she fell asleep leaning forward up against the seat in front of her. I happened to be on a plane with very little leg room to begin with and was literally “held hostage” the whole trip. I couldn’t reach any bag by my feet or put the tray down.
If they are going to reduce the legroom then they need to reduce the ability to recline. It was the worst flight
I'm with you on this. Mine was a small child whose parents put the seat back the moment they could, and she jumped around yelling the whole flight shaking the seat - which was in my face.
Imagine being a 6' tall, slender woman with 35" legs. Almost every flight has me feeling like I'm in a sardine can. I've had my kneecaps bruised several times! Sometimes my knees touch the back of the seat in front of me BEFORE the seat is reclined!
I agree! I had someone lie full back the whole flight and I could barely move in my seat. I thought every time I accidentally banged the seat in front of me, he might have considered raising his seat, but no he wasn't concerned about anyone else at all!!!
I would’ve woken them up or said something
You should’ve called the flight attendant. That’s what I did during one of my trips, the seat in front of me was fully reclined while we were still eating. Luckily the flight attendant I called spoke to the passenger and the seat was adjusted.
Megan, your spilt coffee incident caused by you reclining your seat isn’t your fault. It’s the result of the airlines trying to maximize profits by cramming in as many seats as possible. Passenger comfort has nosedived over the years and questions about whether you should recline your seat have risen. I think you should be able to have enough space to recline your seat without bothering the person behind you. Is that too much to ask for?
I assumed that the reason for the spill in that case was the speed with which the tray table behind moved backward when Megan reclined her seat, not the amount of space available to the tray. Did I get that wrong?
US airlines want to make it so seats don't recline, yet they are the ones who created the problem in the first place.
the airlines are only doing it because there is a demand for cheap flights - you are free to buy a business class or first class ticket and have all the personal space you want.
Most airlines operate on a razor-thin margin, which is why airlines go bankrupt or require bailouts and cutbacks so often.
Why don't YOU start a non-greedy airline that offers Ryanair fares, Emirates comfort and pays fair salaries? Should be easy, right, just don't be greedy?
@@MeiLee-t2vExactly! If you recline, do it very slowly!
@@igorbednarski8048 Airlines don't make money, the main reason is they are so poorly mismanaged and use multiple types of planes. It has nothing to do with razor-thin margins, those are the faults of the airlines. It has to do with pure greed. But you are correct, if you don't like it, take a train, or bus, or upgrade. Nobody is forcing anyone to fly.
Don't remove the recline feature, instead, put enough room between seats!
If Only...
It's impossible. It's an example of shrinkflation - airlines squeeze more seats to get more people onboard to earn more money. They would never go back
I am only 4'9", and I'm squished 😅!
You can pay extra for more leg room
One that I think people dont think about is loudly talking or laughing on an overnight flight. Last Sep I took a flight from Denver to London. It was an overnight so the plane was dark everyone was trying to sleep. There was a woman in the center of the plane watching something and would laugh so loud it would wake everyone up and she even made a baby cry from startling it. Im not talking about a little giggle either, she was cackling and screaming. This went on for an hour and I believe FAs stepped in after she was asked by her seat mates to keep it down and she started laughing louder and more raucously. Then on the same trip but return flight a trio of women in front of my husband and I were meeting for the first time and loudly discussing their drunken exploits on various trips. They started ordering alcohol and sounded like they meant to party. my whole row just looked at eachother like we were in for a rough flight. I think the FAs caught on and cut them off after the meal service and said it was a drink max policy. No idea if that policy actually exists but thank the stars for the FAs
Reclining is NOT the issue... cramming the seats inhumanely close together is the issue... space them out and reclining is no longer a problem...
Agree. But that would mean a heavy increase in the price.
@@wncjan Or maybe the airlines could have $5 less profit per flight...
One of the best flights I've ever had was in the passenger section of a C-5 Galaxy. Outside of little heating, and very loud engines requiring headphones over earplugs to make it bearable, as well as backwards facing seats, the leg room and such made it very comfortable. Doing an overseas flight was comfortable enough that I slept most of it.
@@tejloro Let's say they have to remove 10-15 8 seat rows ro give more room, I gues it would be more than $5. And on all their aircrafts? It would be millions of dolla4s in a very tight market.
@@wncjan And, in addition to that, let's say I'm more concerned with my comfort than their profit margins in a very tight market.
Sad situation that we have to discuss seat recline rules. While I agree about recline slowly I don’t agree that you have to factor if person behind you has laptop or iPad. Sure if flight is less than 4 hrs long you wouldn’t need recline. But if it’s an overnight flight or a long flight try to get comfortable especially when the person in front of you has reclined. What I would suggest is that all the ceo and executive board fly a mandatory 11 hr flight in economy on their airplanes each month and when they suggest new seat layout configurations.
How about a law that requires anyone at manager level or above working at an airline to only be able to fly economy ever?
I pay to recline period! 1hr 2hrs 3 hrs ...so speak for yourself
Airline should make sure that the reclining seat will have enough space for things on the tray or make the reclining seat to stop.
If another passenger asks you to lift the armrest, ALWAYS say NO! I am small, and have lost 1/2 or more of my seat to obese passengers raising the armrest. This results in back and neck pain due to sitting crooked to get away from them. Never again!
I just read a comment somewhere else about a woman in that exact situation…she had hip pain for months after the unfortunate flight. And of course the airlines aren’t going to intervene or take any responsibility. Smh.
All these tips are basic common sense, but unfortunately, common sense is uncommon.
Common sense isn’t a flower that grows in everyone’s garden.
My wife and I once flew from Vienna to Bucharest on a very small plane. There were 6 rows of first class seats, while the rest of the plan was economy. It was a very full flight. We were seated in the first row behind first class. Now, I am a tall guy and muscular. When the passenger in the first class seat went to recline his seat, my legs were in the way. He kept trying to force his seat back but my long legs wouldn't let him. He was hurting my legs. I gently pushed the front of his seat and politely let him know that his seat had no where to go. He complained to the flight attendant who then looked at me and my legs. I asked her where should I put my legs? She smiled at me and told the gentleman that he needed to keep the seat upright. After she left, he tried a few more times. This time I was not so polite and really pushed his seat forward as he kept hurting my legs. I leaned forward and advised him to stop hurting me. Only then did he realize how big I was and his seat remained upright for the flight that was only a little over an hour long. I didn't like that I had to be stern with him but he was hurting me. (We would have upgraded to first class but there were no seats left. For all future flights on these small planes, we have learned to never book the seats directly behind first class!)
The seat can recline in its own space, like on Japan Airlines, i.e. the seat slides forward as it is reclined so the seatback would not intrude into the space behind. As for putting any part of your body, e.g. hair, hand, foot, into other people's space, that's just rude.
A woman in front of our seats suddenly reclined her seat while my mother was leaning forward to get something from her bag and got smacked in the head by the seat. When we told the woman to retract her seat and be more mindful next time not only did she get upset at us, the flight attendant noticed our dispute and proceeded to move my mother to a different seat on the plane as if she was the troublemaker!
I guess I don't know what the etiquette is for seat reclining on air planes, but that scene has always stuck with me bitterly.
Depends on how you were scolding her. I imagine it wasn’t very nice.
I have been hit in the head on several flights because as I am reaching down to get my bag out from under the seat, the person does a full, abrupt seat recline. Before I recline I always look back to make sure I never do that to another passenger. Common courtesy, patience, and awareness of others has gone, literally, out the window when it comes to air travel these days.
Exactly
Don't touch or hit against the seat back of the person in front of you. There's just a thin piece of vinyl at the magazine net, or even if there is metal or hard plastic, every bump is felt. Don't grab headrests as you get up or walk by either, that shakes other people.
I do these things intentionally if the person in front of me does things that annoy me. I'm open to negotiation: we both stop or we both continue.
I literally had hair pulled out by a thoughtless man one time due to this! It was very painful.
For people with bad backs, especially on a longer flight, being able to recline slightly really helps manage lower back pain. So many people have lower back pain, it’s very common.
I feel bad for people with bad backs but Megan is correct about the 4 times that seats should be on their upright position. I had a passenger in front of me recline their seat when my meal was serve on an international flight and nearly spilled my food and drinks. Just gotta ask and check the person at your back if it's ok to do so.
Depending on where the flight attendants are in distributing meals, the row in front of yours could have been served !5 minutes before your row. This was the case on my last flight and the family in front of me immediately put their seats back after finishing their meal. Not very considerate!
she was asking if we should eliminate reclining seats all together
I have a bad back, but I still say, stop the reclining madness, the recline is small for the recliner and so annoying for the one behind.
Yeah, i understand and feel your pain, but I have both back issues and bad knees, and I still will not recline on someone because I detest others reclining on me. The space received by the recliner is minimal compared to the space taken from the one behind. I say "Be Kind, Don't Recline!"
Just completed a 14 hour flight from New Delhi to Toronto on a B777ER. I had the aisle seat, as I always do. Next to me, in the middle a grossly overweight man SPREAD himself into half of MY seat by his body pushing the armrest into my ribs and leg. I told him that if he wanted/needed two seats, he should BUY them, not use half of mine. It was NOT a happy flight. As for reclining seats....if the aircraft is used exclusively for flights of 4 hours or less...it's NOT a big deal. Sitting for 14 hours in a seat that DOESN'T recline....would be a 'back-breaker'.
OMG ^^^ This! It is supremely rude to spread into my seat area, voluntarily or simply by being voluminous. Invading someone’s designated space is simply not okay. Period. Worst flight was next to a huge, linebacker of a man whose shoulders touched mine with his hands in his lap. Not his “fault,” but dang I had ZERO room. And as a person with claustrophobia issues, it was a rough 5 hours
Aisle seats generally also allow you to raise the aisle arm rest (activate a small hidden button), I do that often. Helps greatly in flight, also when the flight ends getting out of the seat.
@@JohnW118 I like to use arm rests for their intended purpose, and to NOT get my arm broken by a cart or a fat person in the aisle. I know that they go up, which is what I do when I get up for a walk on a long flight, or at the end of the flight.
At 68, I only fly business. If I can't afford business class, I can't afford to fly. The money saved by flying economy is not worth the discomfort and risk of physical injury.
Me too, also 68. Flying is all part of the holiday so why not do this in comfort. 👏🇦🇺
Physical injury??
Channeling your drama queen much?
Physical injury??
Channeling your drama queen much?
Agree. Also 68 yo. When and if I can't afford first class, I will just stop flying.
@@AnneMB955 I totally agree with you. I'm 74.
So wait a-minute….If the person sitting behind he is playing a game on his laptop, he now owns and has control over my seat as well as his own 🤷♂️🤷♂️
EXACTLY!! 💯.... I don't understand why reclining seats is even an issue
Ha ha ha, I wrote the same thing and then I saw your post. We are on the same page. It is true though. I have to suffer because of a fricken laptop! No way.
so if you're using your laptop I'm allowed to recline my chair all the way back
It's A laptop so put it on your freaking lap 😂
Choosing to use a laptop doesn't supercede me choosing to recline.
During severe turbulence they can become flying missiles.
I agree, someone choosing to work or recreate on their laptop isn't my obligation to accommodate.
While in flight, I always hold onto a drink on my tray because a recliner in front of you or even hitting some turbulence could cause a spill. Also, and although I never use a laptop on my tray or or recline my seat, I don't think it is the responsibility of a recliner to check behind first to see if it will inconvenience someone. Just IMHO.
Seats should be designed in a way that doesn't make this necessary.
this is why I always bring my own capped drink on planes. small cups with ice are a pain.
I just finish my drink pretty fast to avoid any spillage in case of sudden turbulence or something. If I do have a cup of something on the tray table, I put the cup closer to myself instead of closer to the seat in front of me. No issue even if the person in front of me has reclined their seat.
I personally absolutely need to recline my seat when traveling in general, on a flight I only have the seat upright during takeoff and landing, and during meal services, other than that it has to be reclined even on short flights due to me having severe pain in my spine (including neck), pelvic joints and hips (genetic condition) that makes it extremely painful for me to sit upright for more than just minutes at a time. Reclining means I can cope with extra painkillers, not reclining could mean having to go to hospital upon landing despite having taken my extra painkillers
I have no objection to seats reclining except for meals. I don't think it's unreasonable to have attendants ask that seats remain upright during meal service.
Worst reclining incident for me was on a chartered bus. The woman in front of me suddenly cranked backwards and pinned both my legs when she landed on my kneecaps. She did respond to my screams.
I had this happen on a flight once - the person in front did NOT respond to my protestations, even when I was trying to push on the seat at the same time to release my trapped legs!
That happened to me as I'm 5' 10" and I just started kicking the seat... I told the person who reclined that I could do this for the entire flight. Tall people have nowhere to put their long legs. I told her you will NOT lean on my legs for this entire flight.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with not reclining my seat because the person behind me wants to use a computer. I deserve to be comfortable even if they want to work the entire flight. Especially since they're probably reclining their seat while they're working on their computer.
I'm going to say it: People like you make flying hell.
Rude people on airplanes know they are being rude.
Sorry, but I paid for my seat and I'm going to recline. Being upright in these four examples makes sense but I'm not going to be uncomfortable while someone does work or is drinking coffee. I'm a very considerate person and agree abt reclining slowly but people have to take responsibility for their own actions. I just don't understand why this is even a big discussion these days. When I'm on a flight, I fully expect the person in front of me to lean his chair back and I just deal with it.
I couldn’t care less if the person in front of me reclines. Doesn’t affect my meal or my using a laptop at all.
Similarly, I couldn’t care less if the person behind me prefers that I remain upright. I pay for the seat, including it’s reclining feature, so I get to use it without consulting with anyone else. The only thing I do in this regard is recline the seat very slowly and gently, to be courteous.
Totally agree on the seat reclining. I never recline my seat out of respect for the person behind me. I was on a 11hr flight recently. The dude in front of me reclined back. I tried to be cool about it, but each time I wanted to get out of my seat, I had to do some creative contortions to get out and back in. Meals and snacks were interesting as well. I finally asked him to put his seat up when my wife had to get up to use the restroom. With their seat back there’s no room to get by. At the very least, I feel like a simple ask should happen. Like, “Do you mind if I recline my seat back?”to the person behind you.
I also never recline my seat because I know what it's like to have a reclining seat in front of you and I don't want to do the same out of respect exactly to the person behind me.
I’m here to tell you that non-reclining seats have arrived. I took a Volaris flight, Mexico City to Lima, 5 hours overnight. I was planning to get some sleep on the flight but the rock-hard plastic seats did not recline, not one centimeter! It was the most uncomfortable flight I’ve ever taken. There was only one cabin class on the flight so no option to pay for a more comfortable seat. The stingy amount of space between rows of seats was also to blame for the discomfort. If the airlines ever do eliminate reclining seats in economy/coach class you can be sure it will be for THEIR benefit and profit. It will have nothing whatsoever to do with passenger comfort or safety. Blaming the growing number of people flying for more crowded seating on flights is cheap way of passing the buck.
I'm sure non-reclining seats are cheaper and take less space, so the incentive is already there.
Reclining is annoying especially when you have food on your tray.
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People don't care. It's all about me, me meeeeeee!
There's no "etiquette " anymore.
Robert Frost said it best: Good fences make good neighbors. 😊
Grooming in your seat. Brushing your hair, nail polishing or cutting.
It may be the Singapore Effect but I took a flight from JFK to PHX last week and the seatbelt sign stayed on the whole time. Also, I think the issue with drinks spilling when a passenger reclines is bad design and its on the airlines and aircraft manufactures to fix. I don't recline on planes anymore because the seat is equally uncomfortable no matter how I adjust it.
It’s bad enough that economy seats are so small and have no space but to not even have them recline… that would be horrible!
By reclining the seat you are making the trip an ordeal for the person behind you.
@@tj2375you really aren't, especially on newer jets the recline doesn't really eat into the space for the person behind you. I really don't care if the person in front of me reclines and I'm 6'3".
@@tj2375 they can recline too!
I’d choose another airline if they buy jets without reclining seats.
Unfortunately you cannot rely on everyone to be respectful. I am only 5'4" with no back pain but my husband is 6'5" and has had major back surgery. We always need to pay for larger leg room when he flies. I use my ipad on the tray table and do not like it when people push back in my space. I have never had a person look back to see what they are doing. We all want to be comfortable and I don't think some should compromise their comfort for the other passengers -- there are exceptions of course. Airlines need better seating so we do not have this discussion. Thanks for the opportunity to voice our opinions.
Why should I be uncomfortable and not recline my seat so you can watch your iPad.....bc I bet YOUR seat is reclined.
But then they are compromising their own so the person behind them is comfortable? The madness needs to stop. People do what they do
also...keep your seatbelt fastened in case the roof flies off...
I never recline my seat because I hate when people recline into my space.
Maybe airlines can invest in seats that don't recline into the person behind area. I forgot which plane I was on but was impressed with the recline did not recline but rotated in the seat bucket.
That would be a great solution!
BIG disagreement here @1:02 regarding checking the person behind using the plane as their office with an open laptop. Airline seats are built to recline, so if I take advantage of that feature, I do not care you are trying to use your flight time as an office. I consider that rude. I may need to use my flight time as rest. In my case I have a back that does not permit me to remain rigidly upright for the entire flight. Your rights to use your seat and tray do not extend into my seat area and how I use the features of my seat. Just sayin'...I won't rapidly recline; I generally go back half-way and do so slowly, but don't ask me to accommodate your failure to allow enough office time to complete your work before you board the plane. The purpose of a flight is to travel somewhere else, not as an individual's remote office, we are ALL on the same plane.
You’re so right!
Reclining seats. Flights less than 4-5 hours okay to remove. Long haul flights, NO, NO, NO! Especially since someone is going get stuck in the middle seat, reclining is the only comfort. With so many airlines flying with worn out old seats, I am looking at US airlines, reclining maybe the only way to not hurt for days after a flight. Last time I flew American Airlines from ORD to Heathrow(~8 hours) the seats were so bad my hips hurt for 5 days afterwards.
I had a first class seat from Newark to Rome - and the seat was broken and so uncomfortable!! AA gave me a small voucher in compensation, but it didn't even cover the pain meds or chiro bill.
Thank you for your time and posting. Reclining wouldn't be a problem if US airlines didn't cram in as many seats as they could. I don't fly a ton (even though I am going to Vietnam in Sept. to see if I want to retire there), but I flew LATAM (Ecuador) Airlines and had no problem reclining my seat, and I had lots of leg room (at 6'2"). So the US airlines want to get rid of reclining yet they created the problem in the first place.
To be absolutely clear: if it is not a FFA RULE, then it is nothing more than Your personal opinion...Opinions are like watches, inasmuch as everyone that has one thinks their is correct.
Remove recline? Hell no. I’m 6’ 2” … I’m already challenged with legroom … I’ve got to be able to recline. I’m willing to be respectful reclining.
My 6’4” frame prevented one person from reclining. After repeated attempts, I said, “Madame, those are my knees your attempting to recline into.” Problem solved.
You need to sit in business class or first class. They have more leg room.
Same height, the reclining doesn't give you legroom, give it up, get an aisle seat.
I'm 6' 6" and I'm sitting right behind you, ... try guessing what happens to you when you recline your seat, ... you'll be challenged with more than just legroom, ...
@@Chrisoula17 ... That would be nice, but considering the price, probably not. My height isn't that exception in the U.S. ... seats should have more leg room.
For long-distance flights, I avoid the middle seat problems by paying the extra for premium economy and making sure I pick two across seats. To me, it is worth the extra dollars.
Reclining seats - those 4 times make absolute sense. Reclining is not a big deal to me on shorter flights, but on long haul it makes a big difference, especially to sleep. OR if the seat in front is reclining and I can't it could feel tight. I try to always remember to glance back before reclining rather than doing so abruptly.
It would not ever have occurred to me to move an armrest next to another person. I think air travel is a place for "best behavior" mode and avoiding rudeness.
Some customers of size immediately lift so they can “fit” without being forced to buy the second seat.
I’m not tiny, but I do fit easily and will lift the seat between my husband and myself. So we can spread into each other.
Being old school and grown in a family where good manners were paramount, I like quite much your tips and advices. Unfortunately in a society in decline and more and more lacking of good manners and coexistence principles among it's members, we have to be aware that very probable, we'll be involved in an unfortunate event when flying.
Cheers and thank you!
Too bad airlines treat their passengers like livestock.
There is just 2 rules needed for reclining:
1. The flight attendant is always right (for example not reclining during the start)
2. just talk to each other. Ask the person behind you kindly if it is okay. Being nice gets you so much further. I’ve asked the person behind me and we ended up in the same hotel.
At the pool, the guy came up to me just to tell me that it’s okay for me to recline the pool chair too… that guy was a giant goofball 😂
Anybody who thinks recline should be removed has obviously never taken an 6+ hour red-eye flight... Even if not a red-eye, on a long flight sitting bolt upright will cause lumbar pain.
Men need to stop spreading wide eagle onto my seat...buy 2 seats if yoy want the extra space
5:30 *KIDS PLAYING NOISY GAMES IS ALMOST AS BAD AS A SCREAMING BABY.* Any noise of “music” from someone else’s device is ridiculously rude.
Not recline because someone has a laptop behind me?…once I’m in my seat I’m in…not checking for laptop users…however I will continue to recline slow for safety😊
Yes, I agree, nor are you required to be super-respectful of laptop users, imo. A laptop is a luxury, whether you are flying for business or pleasure. As a laptop user myself, I would not expect that someone in front of me should have to be worried about my use, at the expense of their own comfort. Although the laptop space might not be ideal, a reclined position still allows the tray behind me to be used. Honestly, my last trip was from the US to Turkey, something like 11 hours, and I used my IPad the entire flight, binge-watching my shows. 11 hours of not reclining, really?
@@tinapomfrey5412- Binge-watching on an iPad is a whole different thing than attempting to work on a laptop (and if you do both, you should realize that). Also, an iPad is not going to be caught up in the tray table indent and be broken as a laptop screen can be (and it has happened). Finally, 11-hour flights are an exception. With the average domestic flight time only 1.5 hours (in the US), there's absolutely no reason to recline your seat the paltry 5° they move. Finally, doing so without taking into consideration the passenger behind you for whatever reason - laptop use (or other tray use), person's height, or whether or not there's a bag under your seat is simply rude.
@@ashemoski , the use of the seat takes precedent over the use of the tray table, in my opinion. I agree that you should not recline during the 4 circumstances mentioned in the video, and that you should show courtesy when putting your seat into recline. However, it is absurd to expect the passenger in front of me, who paid for a SEAT, to accommodate my use of a laptop. That is rude and I don't think I am that special. If your worry is about the safety of the laptop...get an Ipad.
Don't spring back a reclined seat as well! No vaping! Cover your mouth when coughing or sneezing! Don't bring any smelly food on board! Please. And no political arguments while in flight
I have an extreme back issue & need to recline so I can arrange pillows in a way so that the pain is somewhat tolerable & always pick an aisle seat because of it. But I always go upright during take off/landing & meal times. Seats have been reclining since almost the beginning of air travel, so I don't understand why all of a sudden it's an issue for some people.
If the seat is reclinable, you have that right. If someone is working, it is not your responsibility.
Wouldn't it just be nice if people followed these rules.
And please leave off the perfume and aftershave and scented lotions. So overwhelming on a plane!
I agree, Colleen! Safe travels!
Well everyone will always complain of something and don’t do this and don’t do that but me for me I don’t care if anyone complains because I’m just gonna FART 💨😷
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to not relax on a long flight just because the person behind me has a laptop. It's called a LAPtop for a reason.
Passengers would be extremely appreciative if airlines would stop cramming them in like livestock, then expecting them to be happy, positive folks. I have never had a stranger allow me usage of an armrest when I am in the center seat. I always have the person in front of me recline, so it is impossible to retrieve any belongings stored under the seat. I’ve yet to see slow, careful reclining. Children seated behind me kick the seat and adults pull on the seat when getting in and out. All problems created by the airlines. Flights in economy are endured, not enjoyed.
I would not remove reclining in economy : it is extremely uncomfortable as it is! But yes, some people lack common decency with regards to etiquette in an airplaine.
I can’t help it I always make sure that the person behind has space before I recline.
No. They should not be removing the recliner feature on an airline in econmy. As one who is older, my lower back goes crazy on long haul flights without the recliner feature.
Yes, after the Singapore airlines flight that suffered from recent turbulence and people have suffered life changing injuries including paralysis wearing your seatbelt is common sense.
I think airlines need to be accountable for how tight they’re packing people in. Rather than complaining at each other force the regulations to change so everyone can be comfortable again like it used to be that young folks have no clue of how nice it was to fly.
Actually your space is the space including the fact that the seat in front reclined. You can recline yours, too. I don't expect anyone to refrain for me. Normally, I recline just a bit during waking hours. I would recline more for sleeping. But let's all do it slowly, please.
Great list!! I've probably made a few of these mistakes....The BIGGEST One was when I had deplaned and realized I left my tablet in the seat pocket and rushed back onto the plane....SEVERAL minutes after all passengers had left...to try to get my tablet. Everything was cool, since one of the flight attendants was rushing up the aisle with my tablet as I busted back onboard and nobody wrestled me to the ground, but I now pay much better attention to keeping track of my own personal belongings
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear you were reunited with your tablet!
The majority of us have or are going to have back problems, removing reclining is anti-human, literally too cruel to be legal.
I have an 11 hour flight today! I always love watching your videos before flights!
I disagree with not reclining one's seat if the passenger in the seat behind is working on his/her laptop. The aircraft is not one's personal office.
With the small space now, NEVER recline your seat.
They should keep the recline, just provide better cup holders to avoid spills…
Another rule, be sure to shower and wear deodorant before you get on a flight to prevent B.O. on the plane.
I will never fly again. Unless I suddenly get filthy rich and can fly first class.
Another thing is harshly poking the seat back screen as the person in front of you can feel it.
Domestic flights don't recline very much at all. Maybe 2 or 3 inches. Now the international flights recline much more.
Interesting! I will have to check that out next flight!
On my recent flight, the man sitting next to me, had some kind of clacker thing. He kept clicking away most of the trip. I thought he was afraid of flying. He had headphones on and watching something on the phone. I was so happy to get off that flight!
There is no such thing as class, dignity and respect now. Glad I don’t have to fly anymore.
I would have the flight attendant tell him to stop it. It that fails, I'll pull off his headphones and tell him myself.
@@bobmcgehee1749 Interesting, why do you watch flying videos then?
@@lezlier.6679 Because now I fly myself if I need to go someplace.
@@diannsanford2436 sounds like he didn’t put his keyboard on silent.
Just fly in Business class, problems solved
Good flight etiquette tips!
Glad you like them!
Seats recline. Quit complaining. Deal with it.
The cramped conditions are no fun for anybody with the current typical seat arrangements. Please consider not reclining your seat at all if the people behind you are tall. My husband is 6'3" (190 cm) and I'm 5'10" (178 cm). If you're tall, your legs will be touching the seats in front when they're in a full upright position. Once it's reclined, you're physically injuring the tall person behind.
Exactly 💯
I'm tall with physical issues and my husband has a permanent injury. We are both going to recline. To each their own
😂😂😂😂😂 the noise of the “tooting”… that was PRICELESS!😂😂😂😂
😂We have to tell people not to fart in your seat on a plane… So gross!
On several flights, the seat in front of me was suddenly and rapidly reclined into my kneecaps! I had to either sit sideways, or with my legs spread far apart. Not exactly comfortable!
Ouch! Space is certainly disappearing in economy! Safe travels!
I'm a frequent LONG haul traveller (Western Australia to Ohio) sometimes enduring 16 hour stretches. PLEASE do not encourage airlines to eliminate the reclining option! I'll never be able to snooze on those flights again 😫
I usually choose an aisle seat, being able to move the armrest is handy as you can just move a bit without feeling trapped. Most problems arise when folk don’t pay attention to things like the safety video. We owe it to each other on a plane to be civilised and should always be polite to the staff who do an amazing job.
Nice! Thanks for watching, Mark!
If a passenger wsnts darkness they should bring their own "Sleep Mask, Eye Mask for Sleeping". Just because they want to sleep does mean I want to sleep.
My sister had her laptop broken when someone suddenly reclined whilst she was using it
Passengers poured coffee on my feet
Good tips! Also, is Ollie ever awake? 😉🤣
What about flushing toilet after use 😂
Perhaps if they can update the design of seats so that when you recline, the seat moves forward slightly might make it better for everyone, instead of the seatback just reclining back. I've been on flights where similar things have happened (in one case, a guy sort of "Fell" into his seat causing the person behind them to spill their drink). I wonder if perhaps if it would be possible to make it so the seats cannot be reclined quickly, but rather more slowly despite you perhaps pushing on it.
For the phone/valuables thing, just do a quick check when you get up... make sure you have all of your stuff. I think the one time I left something on a plane was back in 2012 when I left a small (cheap) camera on the plane (not a huge deal if I lost it as it was a disposable camera anyway with nothing on it but if I had done a quick check before le aving the plane, I would not have had this happen so it's now become part of my routine when departing planes, cars, or even public transportation).
What about flatulence during turbulence?!
Although you should be courteous to everyone around you, the fact that you paid for that seat should allow you to use the seat features as you please. As long as the guy behind me isn't kicking or hitting my seat, personally I don't pay attention to what's on his tray table or what he's doing in his space.
Well as long as you are alright ,Jack
Reclining SHOULD BE REMOVED / PERIOD. It`s a luxury for a bigone flying era.
I totally agree about not reclining during meal service (and on long-haul flights in recent years I've noticed cabin crew ask passengers to raise their seatbacks, even waking passengers to do so, at meal times). However, I totally *disagree* about not reclining if someone's using a laptop or device - I mean, sure, if you're not trying to sleep and you otherwise don't need to recline, then fine, don't do it just because. But some passengers watch films and the like for the entire duration of a flight - so are you just never meant to recline? Again, I'm mostly thinking of long-haul flights here, especially overnight ones. I think it's entirely fair to recline when the cabin is dimmed for 'night' whether or not the person behind you is using a laptop or similar.
Couldn't agree with you more. We mostly do long haul flights and I would NEVER worry about someone having a laptop behind me that makes me not recline to sleep. Putting the chair up for a meal would be no problem but most people don't so I don't worry about it much if the person in front of me is reclined for the meal. It doesn't make it that much harder to eat your meal.
@@jeket5007 I can’t believe people think you’re rude for using a feature of a seat,it reclines for a reason and I’m gonna use it.
I've had to sit in the middle seat with my arms crossed the whole time! People can be really rude