If you watch his college tape, he's still the same guy. Chicago didn't do him any favors his first 2 years, but his hesitancy to throw unless he sees it and its generally wide-ass open is on him alone.
Truth be told he does that, but the other side of that is if you see him throw with anticipation to anyone not named Kmet or Dj Moore. The play doesn't end well. I see it as a bears problem bc after what he went through in 2022 was not a conducive environment to develop a QB. Praying he gets to sit for a bit in Pittsburgh and put it all together. He's got what it takes to be a very good QB in the league.
@@star13km82 People bring up Mooney, yet Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver with a rookie Justin Fields. Then in 2022, the Bears fielded the worst team in franchise history, yet Justin was still breaking records almost every week. Then they give him Moore in 2023 and Moore has his best season by far with Justin, as well as Kmet, the only 2 reliable people he had to throw to. To your point, he threw to them with confidence because everyone else was messing up routes or dropping balls. Tonyan dropping TDs, Mooney doing dumb spinning shit trying to make catches harder than they need to be. But you're right, whenever it was Moore or Kmet he was throwing to, he was confident in them to make a play.
It’s about coordinating the right scheme for your talent. The avg fan is stuck in the idea that we should copy the Mahomes or Brady blueprint. I felt we should have established a modern 1920’s style offense with Fields. The best teams innovate and things go in cycles. Think about early basketball. When you see old clips in black and white it mostly outside shooting. Then it went to post up and sky hook to, MJ triangle and isolation Back to Curry and outside shooting. I’m the NBA defense is built to stop the outside shot. So start going back to the post as the primary weapon. For football get the biggest fastest run blocking linemen and a running QB and shove it up the defenses aaaaaa…..
Baltimore did that with Lamar… NFL figured it out in one season. I know you probably think you’re smarter than most nfl GMs and coaches but the passing game is literally favored even by the rules.
@@juanmikel7507 "Figured it out in one season" is big talk considering the only thing that stopped them in the playoffs was the chiefs, who the Ravens out-played offensively only to lose the turnover game and lose by a TD. You have a funny definition of 'figured it out'
@@ChristianAlexander-b1x I’m talking about when the Titans sent them home in the divisional. The following season Baltimore we’re not as successful running with Lamar. FYI Lamar is a great passer now with Monken, not a run first with Greg Roman like you want. You don’t even know what you’re talking about
@@ChristianAlexander-b1x “figured out” the running quarterback. Baltimore will always be a great team no matter what but they’re a passing team now because running the ball like you want is not as successful
Ints are not equal. Allen throws a lot but he throws them statistically, when its insignificant. He also does a lot more than fields. Fields limited football iq limits the offense, its why his sack rate was 10%+ and tysons bagents was like 6%. Its because he does not have the mental prowess to process at an average level.
That’s not true fields didn’t have a offensive line. He had one wr one te ur for got that chase claypool was a bus locker room distraction the rest of the offensive guys was trash he had to do what he had to do with no talent on the offensive side of football it’s a dame shame that he gad to play with a garbage ass team
U sayTyson bagent was accurate that man was throwing inception in only throwing it to Cole Kmet they had to bench him cause he was not looking good out there they got fields back healthy in he took over the last 7 games of the season in u let him go for some body who paint there nails ain’t no body going to want to play with some body that’s going to say they broke one of my nails gentlemen stop lol
Steelers are gonna do great with this guy a QB, as a bears fan it's sad that we failed him with Getsy and Nagy at OC, but the Steelers Offensive Coaching and his overall progression will make this guy an MVP in a few years.
@@Tullysplaytime Yes it is. Worry about those Steelers. They are where the Bears were four years ago. Play defense and run the ball. Pitt needs to join the "new" NFL>
Hello from Chicago!!! Fields has 1 or 2 great, escapable runs per game. Those are nice.... But he has had 40 FUMBLES in the last 2 years. What's up?? Also, he LOVES to hold the ball 5 seconds or more every pass play that's not a bubble screen. He's got leadership, players love him. But he hasn't put the passing in place after 3 years. In a passing League. Good luck Pitt!!
@@YHWHWILLBEDONEactually over the last 3 years Fields has the highest rate of ints/fumbles in the nfl and has taken over 90 sacks with 4+ seconds of protection. He also had one of the lowest on target pass rates and one of the highest uncatchable pass rates in the nfl. It's pretty weird that you're blaming the fans for these facts 😂
Steelers fan here, we're fine with him, his mistakes will be cleaned up and he will be a better passer in time, y'all gonna regret it that trade, good luck with Caleb.
@@Tullysplaytime those same olines did a fine job protecting the other qbs that played on the same exact teams as Fields. Don't believe me? Here, look for yourself... 2021 sack rate: Fields- 11.8% Dalton- 7.1% 2022: Fields- 14.7% Other 2 qbs- 7.1% and 3.8% 2023: Fields- 10.6% Bagent- 3.4% Also, since when has Pittsburgh ever made a qb better? Other than Roethlisberger they haven't developed a good qb since Bradshaw in the 70s
Ive been watching the replays of the 2023 season. In game 3 against Denver the Bears were up 14 points in the forth. They call a PA pass and Tonyan misses a block during the fake and JF is immediately stripped and the defense scores a TD. This 100% not JF’s fault as he has to turn his back to the defense during the fake. It should be noted that K. Herbert was having a great game and the Bears were moving the ball with the run game. The play call was not good situational football. Later the Bears March down the field and have a chance to take the lead with under 2 minutes by kicking a FG from the 20. But on 4th and 1 they go for it and turn it over on downs. Momentum is a very underestimated concept to the average fan. On the very next play riding the wave of momentum Denver converts a pass for 45 yards that puts them in FG range and that’s all she wrote. Is JF good? His completion % was about 80% for the game. At one point he completed 16/16 passes which is the Bears new record. He threw 4 TD’s and at the end of the game he got them in FG range to take the lead. I think he’s good and I think the coaching for the Bears was horrible up until about the 5th game when the Bears started to show signs of life. Many people judge the individual and not the overall team. What these people fail to understand is that when you watch a game you see a 5 second clip of the main action. In reality every individual assignment matters. One missed block, or a WR slip, or missed assignment has a dramatic affect on the play, but what you see in the 5 second clip is JF fumble, and what you don’t see is the missed block. In reality JF does things other QB’s cannot do.
You're aware that Denver had arguably the worst defense in the nfl right? That's the ONLY reason he had good passing stats that game. Don't believe me? Here, look at his passing game splits last year.... Vs Den (27th def) n Wash (32nd def): 8 pass tds 1 int 1 fumble Other 11 games: 8 pass tds 8 ints 9 fumbles Congrats... he torched 2 of the worst defenses in the nfl and was garbage the other 11 games
Nope…Russ does things other QBs cannot do. JF is just a younger, taller version of Russ without the above the waist and above the neck talent. If the QB were still Pickett, I’d say give JF a shot to start but Russ is the QB, and despite his Denver debacle, he’s way too good to lose his spot to JF. There’s no way it happens, and Fields will see that once they get into practice. Russ is just way better than he is, PERIOD.
Pittsburgh is now last chance U. with an assertively demanding Head Coach. Fields never had a real offensive coordinator, to stress the defense with route schemes and his elite running abilities. We will see!
Bill Lazor was a legit OC who maximized several other qb's abilities. Matt Nagy is one of the best OCs in the league. Getsy was the qb coach and passing game coordinator for Jordan Love's developmental years. Fields had nothing but high end qb coaches his entire nfl career 😂
Bears fan. I think it was time for the Bears to move on from Fields. He wasn’t making the jump and you can’t just sit on him hoping for him to make the jump. I will say, if Fields reached 75% of his potential he could be league MVP. If he became even a top 15 passer in the league, he would terrorize defenses.
@@lacoultonwalls5379 lol OK Justin Fields will never start in the NFL after this year. He just isn't a starting QB and that's OK> P.S. He's a terrible passer. Can't stay healthy nor read the filed. He is a below average QB> Everybody but the casuals know that
They handcuffed him last year with the whole 2td no int and 200 yards passing. It felt like he was way more conservative with his decision making this year compared to year one and two.
He's honestly the best scrambler in the NFL. And yes I'm saying better than Lamar. But he's bottom 5 in the NFL at reading passing defenses. Great arm. It's like he's a superstar QB in everything you want except the most important thing for a QB.
Wish is true but if he was set up for success in they gave him some talent on the offensive side of football believe me would no body have nothing to say about that man
@PatriotWatchUSA you are free to try and prove it wrong. Bears oline was a revolving door on injuries and outside DJ bears were soft. Once Mooney was injured there was no one else to pass too.
He's a slightly better version of Terrell Pryor... I would not be surprised if he ends up switching to WR at some point in his career just to give himself a chance at staying in the NFL.
Steelers are a great spot for Fields. Arthur Smith did a great job with the Titans, and assuming he can get the Steelers offense looking like that without having HC duties to worry about, Fields should be very productive. They still need a WR and 1-2 OLmen which I hope they take care of before the season. If they do, then the Steelers can be an elite ground-n-pound team with Fields/Najee/Warren while creating explosive plays via play action because of Fields playmaking abilities using his legs and deep ball prowess. With a good defense, the Steelers should be able to avoid many situations where the offense has to become a dropback passing team. Individually, I hope Fields focuses on mitigating the disaster plays. Idk if he will ever become a fast enough processor for a team to depend on him as a pure dropback passer, but if he can mitigate the disaster plays while continuing to steadily progress as a processor (just enough to go from a bad to even below-average dropback passer) then he will be a guy the Steelers can win with. I still think he is similar to Jalen Hurts in that both are below-average pocket passers who can be super productive if used in a run-first/great defense when surrounded by talent and good coaching. Hurts had a good situation to grow in but Fields didn't. PIT is a consistent organization and there aren't many other teams I would trust to fix Fields development. Of course, I mentioned earlier, Arthur Smith returning to (his Titans) form is going to be crucial for this to play out.
Best comment I’ve read so far. Sad he didn’t workout for us but it’s so obvious we had to move on. I still can’t understand people who think he’s a superstar
Who told you Pittsburgh can fix qbs? They've developed one good qb since the mid 90s (please don't pretend Slash was a good qb) and the rest were terrible. Slash was also a horrible pocket passer. It's also odd how you keep saying "if Arthur Smith can get back to his Titans days" considering Tannehill is a far superior qb than Fields dating back to his days in Miami and Pittsburgh doesn't have a Derrick Henry to feed 350-400 touches every year to make the offense look better than it really is. In his two years as the OC in Tennessee they ranked 21st and 23rd in pass yards. His offense was just "give it to Henry" 😆😆😆
After watching Fields on the st brown brothers podcast, I believe he will be good, seems passionate when talking about football, and has tons of talent. I think the right QB coach/room could get him right if he's lucky.
That's the problem with most Fields truther's, though. They watch his podcasts and highlight reels, but not his tape... He's a good kid and was awesome to have in the locker room. Nobody ever doubted he could be a leader. But where he fell apart was throwing the football and reading defenses. He holds the ball too long because he misses his reads and windows. I hope he does well, but the first sentence is so weird to determine from some guys talking on a podcast. He's just not that good at QB.
Bro... he's had ELITE qb coaching his entire career. Matt Nagy helped develop Alex Smith into a 3x pro bowler, Mahomes into an mvp and even got Trubisky into a pro bowl. Bill Lazor was the qb coach or oc for Nick Foles the year he had his monster 27 td 2 int season, and for Tannehill's best years in Miami and for Dalton's 2nd or 3rd best seasons in Cincinnati and also got Trubisky to a pro bowl. Getsy was the qb coach and passing game coordinator for Jordan Love... these guys are all KNOWN for their work with qbs lol.
Look at #12 Velus Jones blocking in the first play. Shows you how much the team in Chicago loved Fields. Steelers will love him too, hope he plays well for them. Something tells me that Fields won't take as many late hits in Pittsburgh as he did in Chicago. Steelers don't let that crap happen.
I’m a GB fan & most of GBs fan base was praying that the Bears gave him a max deal. That’s just how good he is. Now my team will have to deal with Williams. 🙄 Bears GM actually made a decision that was so un Bears like. 🤣
I’m also a Packers fan, and I’m definitely not convinced we need to worry about Caleb Williams yet. From the film I’ve watched, it seems like Fields and Williams are damn near the same prospect….
Not gonna lie this is one of the most disingenuous collections of plays ive seen chosen to ask if a QB is good or not. It was runs, an interception, and plays his timing was off/ he saw the play late. Idk how you can get an accurate answer of a QBs skill off the plays you selected. It’s seems you have an agenda, I don’t want to assume you’re unable to pick good from bad plays; however pointing out these plays ONLY and not including the plays that led to the bears winning those games is quite discouraging
There is nothing "disingenuous" about this video. It is this person's evaluation of a player. Feel free to make your own video of your evaluation. I look forward to the comments.
@@spud1159 The video is clearly disingenuous, don’t need to explain that simple fact. And as a viewer I can critique any aspect of the video I want. Feel free to explain how this video is ingenious in any way, I’ll be waiting.
You type that like its good or something? Good QBs pass for 4,000 yards not 3,000. That is old NFL. Herbert throws for over 5,0000 each year. So do several others. JF is not a starting NFL QB and thats ok. Dry your tears @@BigG6179
@@BigG6179 I didn’t say he doesn’t throw the ball. He’s playing QB in the nfl where teams are passing more than ever. But he will miss wide open receivers while staring them down. He locks on to one receiver far too long. He can’t go thru his progression fast enough.
At 3:16 DJM runs out of space at the side line. This play should be called from the left hash to roll right. In other words it should utilize the wide the side of the field. In this case the play is to the weak side. That’s a fundamental mistake by the OC.
He threw it too late, with too much loft, not enough speed, and to the wrong spot. Also the receiver should have run a deeper route with a sharper cut. He should have thrown it before the receiver broke and it should be high and toward the sideline so that a defender can’t undercut it. The loft also gave the defender time to cut in front of the receiver on a ball that was already under thrown and misplaced.
@@calvinlow2 I didn’t see that at all. The play was ran how it’s designed. Moore didn’t have enough separation. Using the short side did T allow enough space for Moore to get separation. Using the side side would creat space for DJ to get separation or more space for JF to run. It’s a bad play call.
Yes, he's good. When there wasn't 300 pound D Linemen coming unblocked on almost every play and he has a clean pocket, he was extremely accurate, especially his deep ball. Honestly has one of the best deep balls in the league statistic-wise which is going to benefit the Steeler's young, speedy receivers like Pickens. And when he needs to run, he's the best QB in the league at it. He's just as fast and shifty as Lamar, but he's big and hard to tackle like Josh Allen. He consistently shakes off sacks from people like Hutchinson, Miles Garrett, Fletcher Cox, etc and makes big plays. And off topic, I did find it weird that people were using his total stats against him when he missed 4 and a half games. People might not want to hear it, but if he played all 17 games he would've been a 3200+ yard passer while having 800+ rushing yards, based on his per-game averages. That's a pretty good season for a dual threat QB if you ask me. But still, there are things he can improve on of course. Having a quicker release on his throw, for example, but every problem he still has left can be ironed out easily by a good coach, in my opinion.
You shouldn't use his per game passing stats because they are EXTREMELY skewed by 2 games. He averaged 308 pass yards and 4 pass tds per game vs Washington and Denver but only 176 pass yards and 0.72 pass tds per game in the other 11 games. He had 617 pass yards and 8 pass tds vs Washington and Denver and only 1,945 pass yards and 8 pass tds in the other 11 games. If you go by the 11 game sample size instead of the two game sample size he would've had 2,992 pass yards and 13 pass tds in 17 games last year. That's TERRIBLE for any style qb. Seriously, look at his game splits... - Vs Wash (32nd def) n Den (27th def): 8 pass tds 1 int 1 fumble - Other 11 games: 8 pass tds 8 ints 9 fumbles Other than smoking 2 of the worst defenses in the nfl he was trash the other 11 games.
Idk what QBs you have been watching, but Russ has that sane escapability, and unlike Fields, he can make great passes in those situations. You Fields-lovers need to give it up. There’s is no reason whatsoever to believe that he can or should displace Russ until maybe 2028, when Russ is finished.
His line was fine he held the ball too long. Plenty of articles for you to red at your pace. His OC had a job way before he did sooo there's that. JF will never be a franchise QB @@idctoniOnIG
@@idctoniOnIGoline was ranked 5th in Pass Block Win Rate and 2nd in Run Block Win Rate last year. Fields has taken over 90 sacks with 4+ seconds of protection and over the last 3 years no qb has held the ball longer than Fields. But sure... it's everyone else's fault 🤷♂️
As a Bears fan that watched many games, i always cringed when we NEEDED him to score points, when we had to score and ball was in his hands it never looked good, my man couldnt lead a drive to save us EVER! Blame everything you want but fields makes too many mistakes, bad throws, holds the ball to long, fumbles, etc... I hope Pittsburgh can turn him around but he was traded for a 6th for a reason. (This is from someone with a home and an away JF1 jerseys, I had hope too but it didnt work out)
@@Trimmxthy Bagent seemed to succeed with the same O line and weapons. 🤔 The league has spoken and Fields is just a backup and may end up as a 3rd stringer shortly.
Good QB on good teams win SB. You can win without a good team but not without a good QB> All you have top do is rank your QB in your division. That is how you stand @@zaziedabeast9692
Why are you highlighting only the bad throws? At least someone like Tim Jenkins highlights the good and bad. You are really trying to paint your anti Fields narrative because look at the god damn score. How do you think he got those numbers. You are deceiving your watchers. He is not a Bear anymore show the good throws....
He sucks. He has a low iq and was traded for a potato for a reason. He limits an offense and gets sacked to much because he cannot process fast enough. He has good throws, mainly because a defenders bites due to the fear of the run. Running backs should not play QB. He is not good enough to be a starter, every single starter in the league gives a team a better chance. Also, once he slows down in a few years, he will be worthless. See cam newton now and lamar jackson in two years. Who was gifted an mvp due to white guilt because his stats screamed that he was barely a top 15 qb in the league.
Anyone with half a brain can see what he sees. Don’t worry dude, if you love Fields he’s gonna develop into a superstar in Pittsburgh and prove us all wrong 😰
I couldn’t have been the only none to have thought this! I rather him of made a definitive statement or his opinion instead of proposing a question and showing strictly “bad” plays. It’s funny
The dude had 2500 passing yards 12.5 games. The yards came from good throws. He clearly can read defenses and time his throws to get those yards. It is just a fuckin made up myth that this kid can't play. Do you even know the names of his pass catchers in 3 years? @@juanmikel7507
@@AdamB34 🤣 tf are u on do u need a video or sum shi cuz I can make one for ur dumbass.. woulda had 3k sum passing if not for all that dropped dimes lil boy. He did not have a team, got one good wr n gave him career high stats same with kmet. Keep watching the score n being a casual that knows Jack shit🤣
Justin is at best, a 3rd stringer. He's as athletic, no denying that. But he struggles with the mental aspects of the game. He can't read defenses or anticipation of blitzes. Thus he makes no line adjustments and audibles. He has poor pocket awareness and as athletic as he is, he gets sack way too often. He can't even keep the defense on their toes by making as simple a. I've as varying cadence. The defense always gets a jump on him. (Rogers would be the complete opposite of this simple quarterbacking move). And to top it off, while he has a strong arm, he cannot seem to anticipate throwing lanes. Scramble to hivehoo the 🏈 hoping someone runs it down. Justin's ball is at best a wing and a prayer.
Justin is great qb there is not a qb in NFL who hasn't missed a throw DJ more had more yards with Justin than any other qb Cole kmet had a career year Justin had over 2500 passing yards in 13 games he is great qb passing and running the bears are historically cheap organization
Moore had that many yards due to his career high in YAC, not because of Fields. He had one of the lowest yards before catch of his career. He was just taking short passes from Fields and turning them into bigger gains on his own. Fields also had 25% of his passing yards and 50% of his pass tds in TWO games. Here, look at his passing splits... - Vs Den (27th def) n Wash (32nd def): 308 pass yards per game 8 pass tds 1 int 1 fumble - Other 11 games: 176 pass yards per game 8 pass tds 8 ints 9 fumbles He was literally only good vs two of the worst defenses in the nfl.
Kmet was just as productive with Bagent as he was with Fields. He set a career high in receptions in one game and had 1 of his two career 2 td games with Bagent
@@antoinethurman83just about any qb can win games with a great rushing offense and great defense and great coaching around him but good qbs can win if they have only one or none of those things
After 3 years, Fields still doesn't know how to 'manage a game'. Fields is a highlight player....not a winning player, and has a poor 25L to 10W record. His future is as a gimmick player, not a starting QB.
@@DeCurtaRicanCould be if the line holds up. As a Bears fan, I am just happy to be rid of Fields. Lots of people bashing Russ for no reason. What more does the guy have to do to get some respect?
As a RB maybe. He's had 3 full seasons to show something as QB, more than enough time to prove himself and he hasn't. Worse still he completely folds to division rivals, the teams that know him best can easily shut down what little production he does make. And how do these division rivals beat him? By daring him to pass his way to victory and he failed every time.
Yes best comment on this page. Packers and Vikings both knew what to do. Not only did they know what to do but they told everyone. Keep him in the pocket
He limits an offense. Look at the offense under bagent vs. Fields. Fields does not have the IQ. His big plays come because a bad defense bites on the threat of the qb run. Multiple times fields has ran to left towards the line, the defender bites and he dumps it over his head to moore and moore runs to the house. It pumps his mediocre numbers but he will never win, like lamar. Running QBs have a short life in the nfl. Once lamar slows dowm he will suck and his window is about another two years. The brain is the strength of a great qb, legs are a nice fourth or fifth skill.
Bagent was spoon fed a 1-2 read offense. The line quite literally got beat every other players. Getsy wasn't about to have an undrafted rookie run the same unlocked play book as Fields. In 4 games bagent was alright and he did his best and I love him for it. But when we needed him to do more in the LA game or win it at NO(where he had 4 chances I believe) the offense sputtered. Fields is also highly intelligent, scored an all time high on the wonderlic also had an offer to go to Harvard. Yes you need IQ dudes got it he's not dumb. Feel free to disagree I see him being one of the better QBs soon.
@@star13km82Harvard has an entire football team full of genius level scrubs that can score higher than 99% of nfl players on the wonderlic but can't even sniff a roster spot in the nfl. Also, Bagent got sacked 5 times in 4 starts for a sack% of about 3.5% while Fields got sacked 44 times in 13 starts for a sack% of about 10.5%. So you can blame the oline all you want but Fields took sacks at a 3x higher rate than Bagent
@AdamB34 I already mentioned I dislike the bagent comparisons, they're lame and have no context when brought up. Dude ran the elementary school offense. 2 reads at the most and screens. Getsy knew this oline was awful, they'd be bottom 5 if Fields wasn't so dam talented and bailed them out. Bagent couldn't, throw the ball or die! Also I apologize forget the wonderlic there's a mental aptitude test the NFL does and out of +6,500 players Fields is number 1! He scored 130, Mahomes is 110. Fields has all the talent in the world to be great, he's not stupid and doesn't have processing issues, he's had oline will protect every other snap and recievers never separate issues. Pittsburgh is a good spot and he's likely to resurrect his career the next few seasons.
@@star13km82 you seriously have issues homie. An aptitude test is utterly meaningless when it comes to processing and reading defenses. Just because you can get a master's degree it doesn't mean you can process a defenses in under 2 seconds and make reads in under 2 seconds and then make an accurate pass. It just means you can pass a test 😆😆😆. Why doesn't Harvard have dozens of players in the nfl if high test scores is so meaningful? Gee, it's almost like school intelligence and football intelligence are different. That might explain why guys who can barely read or write and got Cs-Ds in school can still be high level football players 🤔... Once again... you brought up Bagent but this was also true FOR EVERY OTHER QB WHO STARTED ON THE SAME TEAMS AS FIELDS. Here, look for yourself.... 2021 sack%: Fields- 11.8% Foles- 10.6% Dalton- 7.1% 2022 sack%: Fields- 14.7% Siemien- 7.1% Peterman- 3.8% 2023 sack%: Fields- 10.6% Bagent- 3.4% Notice a pattern 🤔 😆😆😆
Tebow started 3 games his rookie year, 11 games his 2nd season then never started another game at qb and was out of the league entirely after his 3rd season. Fields has already started 22 more games than Tebow at qb. They literally tried moving Tebow to tight end after his 2nd season. So what exactly are you whining about?
Fields CAN’T throw over the middle. Russ has been reluctant to use the middle at various points in his career. Theresa world of difference between those two guys. Russ can throw over the middle. He has had times when he didn’t do it, but Russ can kill any defense from any angle if the O-line and receivers do their part. And you don’t send a fully covered, fragile, 5’10 slot receiver coming off an injury over the middle. In fact, one of the games I saw him use the middle brilliantly all afternoon was Seahawks vs. Steelers (2019). There’s a 00:02:47 video with plenty of footage of Russ unloading the ball quickly, playing on schedule, standing strong in the pocket, and hitting guys over the middle. Btw, I don’t think Fields is a better athlete either! So he doesn’t even have THAT over Russ. He’s faster, but Russ is slippery and can do more with his arm on the run. Anyone who thinks these QBs are the same has an undiscerning eye. Yes, Fields shares some traits with young Russ, but Russ is on a completely different planet as a passer, playmaker, and leader. Yes, I said leader. Contrary to what a lot of people think, Russ is well-liked by most players. But leadership isn’t about being liked. It’s about commanding respect. Some guys may not even like him, but they respect him. You hear that even from LoB teammates. Honestly, it was one mouth who stirred up all the trouble: Richard Sherman, and it was mostly out of jealousy!
this is honestly an awful video showing some of his escape ability, How about showing how Blind this guy is? Misses wide open targets every other play. Terrible accuracy.
He’s a running back, not a quarterback. This idea that he’s gonna come in a save the Steelers is nonsense. Yes, he can pull off a few plays here and there, but he’s not going to get you to the playoffs. He will lead your team to an 8-9or a 7-10 record. He’s just not good enough
lets just face it justin fields is wrong color for play quaterback, if he white people would talk about him like trevor lawrence, like he just had a rough star, just needs to put it all together. only meatheads will disagree. Justin fields last 17 regular season games: 61.7%, 4,226 total yards, 31 total TDs, 13 INTs, 12 FMB Trevor Lawrence last 17 regular season games: 66.8%, 4,432 total yards, 24 TDs, 11 INTs, 12 FMB
Victim mentality runs strong with you huh? I like how you include Fields (all TDs) including runs. I think the argument about Lawrence vs Fields is if your looking for a pocket passer Lawrence is the clear winner. And since most teams are, that's why he is viewed as the better QB, nothing to do with ANYTHING Else
Fields has 25 total tds his last 17 games, not 31 and Lawrence has 26 total tds, not 24. Lawrence has also already made a pro bowl and won a playoff game while Fields has 10 wins and only best 2 winning teams in 3 years 😂😂😂
He has a rocket and he has elite speed. His accuracy isn’t even bad. His decision making and poise seems to be extremely lack luster though. If you could devise a way to simplify the game for him, he could be a good QB. I don’t know that’s doable in the NFL though. They seemed to accomplish that for him at Ohio State.
It's not like we specifically targeted Fields. Justin Fields is only in a Steelers uniform because Kenny Pickett didn't want to compete with Russell Wilson come this training camp. The front office was perfectly content heading into 2024 season with Russ and Kenny. Whether it be Justin or Kenny, we were going to have a young QB with lots of issues that need hammering out. In this light, it's not so bad. We didn't break the bank and Russ is still going to be our starter regardless.
If you watch his college tape, he's still the same guy. Chicago didn't do him any favors his first 2 years, but his hesitancy to throw unless he sees it and its generally wide-ass open is on him alone.
Well said brother well said 👏
Exactly he never improved on any of his deficiencies.
YES he's the same slooooooow QB he was when he entered the league
Truth be told he does that, but the other side of that is if you see him throw with anticipation to anyone not named Kmet or Dj Moore. The play doesn't end well. I see it as a bears problem bc after what he went through in 2022 was not a conducive environment to develop a QB. Praying he gets to sit for a bit in Pittsburgh and put it all together. He's got what it takes to be a very good QB in the league.
@@star13km82 People bring up Mooney, yet Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver with a rookie Justin Fields. Then in 2022, the Bears fielded the worst team in franchise history, yet Justin was still breaking records almost every week. Then they give him Moore in 2023 and Moore has his best season by far with Justin, as well as Kmet, the only 2 reliable people he had to throw to. To your point, he threw to them with confidence because everyone else was messing up routes or dropping balls. Tonyan dropping TDs, Mooney doing dumb spinning shit trying to make catches harder than they need to be. But you're right, whenever it was Moore or Kmet he was throwing to, he was confident in them to make a play.
Those 5 seconds sitting in pocket and indecision is his thorn.
He need the blinders icon for seeing the field in Madden!
Could still be a very good starter, especially in a run-first, play-action scheme.
arthur smiths bread and butter
OK
He's a monster in play action. It makes it so much harder on a defense when they have to not only worry about your arm, but your legs.
@@MFBlooshexcept they don't have to worry about his arm.
@@MFBlooshwho was EVER worried about his arm?
It’s about coordinating the right scheme for your talent. The avg fan is stuck in the idea that we should copy the Mahomes or Brady blueprint. I felt we should have established a modern 1920’s style offense with Fields. The best teams innovate and things go in cycles. Think about early basketball. When you see old clips in black and white it mostly outside shooting. Then it went to post up and sky hook to, MJ triangle and isolation Back to Curry and outside shooting. I’m the NBA defense is built to stop the outside shot. So start going back to the post as the primary weapon. For football get the biggest fastest run blocking linemen and a running QB and shove it up the defenses aaaaaa…..
Baltimore did that with Lamar… NFL figured it out in one season. I know you probably think you’re smarter than most nfl GMs and coaches but the passing game is literally favored even by the rules.
@@juanmikel7507 "Figured it out in one season" is big talk considering the only thing that stopped them in the playoffs was the chiefs, who the Ravens out-played offensively only to lose the turnover game and lose by a TD. You have a funny definition of 'figured it out'
Thanks Karen this was great
@@ChristianAlexander-b1x I’m talking about when the Titans sent them home in the divisional. The following season Baltimore we’re not as successful running with Lamar. FYI Lamar is a great passer now with Monken, not a run first with Greg Roman like you want. You don’t even know what you’re talking about
@@ChristianAlexander-b1x “figured out” the running quarterback. Baltimore will always be a great team no matter what but they’re a passing team now because running the ball like you want is not as successful
Yes.
Now do a video on the Bears historically bad offense for their entire existence.
A good qb can, has and will continue to turn around even the worst offenses. Problem is, Fields isn't a good qb
Josh Allen does that every game Jackson Krueger.
Ints are not equal. Allen throws a lot but he throws them statistically, when its insignificant. He also does a lot more than fields. Fields limited football iq limits the offense, its why his sack rate was 10%+ and tysons bagents was like 6%. Its because he does not have the mental prowess to process at an average level.
That’s not true fields didn’t have a offensive line. He had one wr one te ur for got that chase claypool was a bus locker room distraction the rest of the offensive guys was trash he had to do what he had to do with no talent on the offensive side of football it’s a dame shame that he gad to play with a garbage ass team
U sayTyson bagent was accurate that man was throwing inception in only throwing it to Cole Kmet they had to bench him cause he was not looking good out there they got fields back healthy in he took over the last 7 games of the season in u let him go for some body who paint there nails ain’t no body going to want to play with some body that’s going to say they broke one of my nails gentlemen stop lol
@@BettyRight-hw8yoactually Bagent's was 3.4 lowest in the league. But good point though.
@@The1amareyou're seriously embarrassing yourself
Steelers are gonna do great with this guy a QB, as a bears fan it's sad that we failed him with Getsy and Nagy at OC, but the Steelers Offensive Coaching and his overall progression will make this guy an MVP in a few years.
Coupled with the right program he's going to flourish, it's a shame it didn't work out in Chicago.
"The right program" Makes me laugh
The guy had 2 different programs that worked for other qbs homie.
It's not gonna work out for any qb in Chicago in that horrible system. Caleb should give himself a better chance and go somewhere else
@@Tullysplaytime Yes it is. Worry about those Steelers. They are where the Bears were four years ago. Play defense and run the ball. Pitt needs to join the "new" NFL>
Hello from Chicago!!!
Fields has 1 or 2 great, escapable runs per game. Those are nice....
But he has had 40 FUMBLES in the last 2 years. What's up??
Also, he LOVES to hold the ball 5 seconds or more every pass play that's not a bubble screen.
He's got leadership, players love him. But he hasn't put the passing in place after 3 years. In a passing League. Good luck Pitt!!
That's B.S., and you know it. The Bears have a trash organization and trash fans. That was the problem!
@@YHWHWILLBEDONEactually over the last 3 years Fields has the highest rate of ints/fumbles in the nfl and has taken over 90 sacks with 4+ seconds of protection. He also had one of the lowest on target pass rates and one of the highest uncatchable pass rates in the nfl. It's pretty weird that you're blaming the fans for these facts 😂
Steelers fan here, we're fine with him, his mistakes will be cleaned up and he will be a better passer in time, y'all gonna regret it that trade, good luck with Caleb.
By the way Fields behind a atrocious o line that couldn't do anything to protect him, u forgot to mention that.
@@Tullysplaytime those same olines did a fine job protecting the other qbs that played on the same exact teams as Fields. Don't believe me? Here, look for yourself...
2021 sack rate:
Fields- 11.8%
Dalton- 7.1%
2022:
Fields- 14.7%
Other 2 qbs- 7.1% and 3.8%
2023:
Fields- 10.6%
Bagent- 3.4%
Also, since when has Pittsburgh ever made a qb better? Other than Roethlisberger they haven't developed a good qb since Bradshaw in the 70s
Ive been watching the replays of the 2023 season. In game 3 against Denver the Bears were up 14 points in the forth. They call a PA pass and Tonyan misses a block during the fake and JF is immediately stripped and the defense scores a TD. This 100% not JF’s fault as he has to turn his back to the defense during the fake. It should be noted that K. Herbert was having a great game and the Bears were moving the ball with the run game. The play call was not good situational football. Later the Bears March down the field and have a chance to take the lead with under 2 minutes by kicking a FG from the 20. But on 4th and 1 they go for it and turn it over on downs. Momentum is a very underestimated concept to the average fan. On the very next play riding the wave of momentum Denver converts a pass for 45 yards that puts them in FG range and that’s all she wrote. Is JF good? His completion % was about 80% for the game. At one point he completed 16/16 passes which is the Bears new record. He threw 4 TD’s and at the end of the game he got them in FG range to take the lead. I think he’s good and I think the coaching for the Bears was horrible up until about the 5th game when the Bears started to show signs of life. Many people judge the individual and not the overall team. What these people fail to understand is that when you watch a game you see a 5 second clip of the main action. In reality every individual assignment matters. One missed block, or a WR slip, or missed assignment has a dramatic affect on the play, but what you see in the 5 second clip is JF fumble, and what you don’t see is the missed block. In reality JF does things other QB’s cannot do.
You're aware that Denver had arguably the worst defense in the nfl right? That's the ONLY reason he had good passing stats that game. Don't believe me? Here, look at his passing game splits last year....
Vs Den (27th def) n Wash (32nd def):
8 pass tds
1 int
1 fumble
Other 11 games:
8 pass tds
8 ints
9 fumbles
Congrats... he torched 2 of the worst defenses in the nfl and was garbage the other 11 games
Nope…Russ does things other QBs cannot do. JF is just a younger, taller version of Russ without the above the waist and above the neck talent. If the QB were still Pickett, I’d say give JF a shot to start but Russ is the QB, and despite his Denver debacle, he’s way too good to lose his spot to JF. There’s no way it happens, and Fields will see that once they get into practice. Russ is just way better than he is, PERIOD.
JF must have a big family.😏His relatives are all over the internet caping for him.
he seems like a nice guy
Pittsburgh is now last chance U. with an assertively demanding Head Coach. Fields never had a real offensive coordinator, to stress the defense with route schemes and his elite running abilities. We will see!
QB is not supposed to run. When they run they get hurt. Running should be a last option
Bill Lazor was a legit OC who maximized several other qb's abilities. Matt Nagy is one of the best OCs in the league. Getsy was the qb coach and passing game coordinator for Jordan Love's developmental years. Fields had nothing but high end qb coaches his entire nfl career 😂
Bears fan. I think it was time for the Bears to move on from Fields. He wasn’t making the jump and you can’t just sit on him hoping for him to make the jump.
I will say, if Fields reached 75% of his potential he could be league MVP. If he became even a top 15 passer in the league, he would terrorize defenses.
but he won't sooooo
😂😂😂... "if I just make up enough numbers and pretend my fantasy world is real... then Fields is gonna be elite!"
The Bears did him no favors he made plays passing and running no other qb could make. bears had terrible roster not on Justin period
@@lacoultonwalls5379 the delusional ramblings of Fields apologists are endless entertainment
@@lacoultonwalls5379 lol OK Justin Fields will never start in the NFL after this year. He just isn't a starting QB and that's OK> P.S. He's a terrible passer. Can't stay healthy nor read the filed. He is a below average QB> Everybody but the casuals know that
They handcuffed him last year with the whole 2td no int and 200 yards passing. It felt like he was way more conservative with his decision making this year compared to year one and two.
😂😂😂.... isn't strange how LITERALLY EVERY COACH AND TEAMMATE HE'S EVER HAD is the problem but he's never the problem?
He's honestly the best scrambler in the NFL. And yes I'm saying better than Lamar. But he's bottom 5 in the NFL at reading passing defenses. Great arm. It's like he's a superstar QB in everything you want except the most important thing for a QB.
Wish is true but if he was set up for success in they gave him some talent on the offensive side of football believe me would no body have nothing to say about that man
Bears fan here... 100% accurate. he has all the physical gifts to make him a hall of fame QB.. except the ability to throw a receiver open..
@@The1amareHe had talent and made receivers worse and made the O line look bad.
@@Fluffy2BuffyHOF. 😂😂. Bagent was better.
@@The1amarehe had one of the best wr/te combos in the nfl last year and REGRESSED or stayed the same in every major passing metric 😂
Where do you access the film from multiple view points aside from the television broadcast? I want to see goal post footage and other angles
Fields is a lot like Daniel Jones. Both players are elite athletes for the position, but neither guy has that “it” factor and mentality.
He still got potential 😤
lol yep so do you.
He’s going onto his 4th season.If that potential hasn’t been unlocked at this point, it never will be.
He got to reach it though.
@@PatriotWatchUSAare you trying to compliment the guy, or do you not know how insults work?
Depends on how you look at it @@magnumdoinks5595
He can run--running QB's who can't throw are gone quickly. For every good play the guy made, there were at least a dozen bad ones.
yeah buddy. So glad he is gone so the Bears can move on.
He needs bigger targets. Bears oline and receiving core were bottom of the league.
@@Bobby-th3cz Complete nonsense.
@PatriotWatchUSA you are free to try and prove it wrong. Bears oline was a revolving door on injuries and outside DJ bears were soft. Once Mooney was injured there was no one else to pass too.
Ok but speaking of bad, what about a bad, probably leagues worst o line who couldn't protect him at all.
He's a slightly better version of Terrell Pryor... I would not be surprised if he ends up switching to WR at some point in his career just to give himself a chance at staying in the NFL.
Steelers are a great spot for Fields. Arthur Smith did a great job with the Titans, and assuming he can get the Steelers offense looking like that without having HC duties to worry about, Fields should be very productive. They still need a WR and 1-2 OLmen which I hope they take care of before the season. If they do, then the Steelers can be an elite ground-n-pound team with Fields/Najee/Warren while creating explosive plays via play action because of Fields playmaking abilities using his legs and deep ball prowess. With a good defense, the Steelers should be able to avoid many situations where the offense has to become a dropback passing team.
Individually, I hope Fields focuses on mitigating the disaster plays. Idk if he will ever become a fast enough processor for a team to depend on him as a pure dropback passer, but if he can mitigate the disaster plays while continuing to steadily progress as a processor (just enough to go from a bad to even below-average dropback passer) then he will be a guy the Steelers can win with. I still think he is similar to Jalen Hurts in that both are below-average pocket passers who can be super productive if used in a run-first/great defense when surrounded by talent and good coaching. Hurts had a good situation to grow in but Fields didn't. PIT is a consistent organization and there aren't many other teams I would trust to fix Fields development. Of course, I mentioned earlier, Arthur Smith returning to (his Titans) form is going to be crucial for this to play out.
Best comment I’ve read so far. Sad he didn’t workout for us but it’s so obvious we had to move on. I still can’t understand people who think he’s a superstar
Fields isn't starting...
Who told you Pittsburgh can fix qbs? They've developed one good qb since the mid 90s (please don't pretend Slash was a good qb) and the rest were terrible. Slash was also a horrible pocket passer.
It's also odd how you keep saying "if Arthur Smith can get back to his Titans days" considering Tannehill is a far superior qb than Fields dating back to his days in Miami and Pittsburgh doesn't have a Derrick Henry to feed 350-400 touches every year to make the offense look better than it really is. In his two years as the OC in Tennessee they ranked 21st and 23rd in pass yards. His offense was just "give it to Henry" 😆😆😆
After watching Fields on the st brown brothers podcast, I believe he will be good, seems passionate when talking about football, and has tons of talent. I think the right QB coach/room could get him right if he's lucky.
Key word being "lucky"
That's the problem with most Fields truther's, though. They watch his podcasts and highlight reels, but not his tape... He's a good kid and was awesome to have in the locker room. Nobody ever doubted he could be a leader. But where he fell apart was throwing the football and reading defenses. He holds the ball too long because he misses his reads and windows. I hope he does well, but the first sentence is so weird to determine from some guys talking on a podcast. He's just not that good at QB.
Bro... he's had ELITE qb coaching his entire career. Matt Nagy helped develop Alex Smith into a 3x pro bowler, Mahomes into an mvp and even got Trubisky into a pro bowl. Bill Lazor was the qb coach or oc for Nick Foles the year he had his monster 27 td 2 int season, and for Tannehill's best years in Miami and for Dalton's 2nd or 3rd best seasons in Cincinnati and also got Trubisky to a pro bowl. Getsy was the qb coach and passing game coordinator for Jordan Love... these guys are all KNOWN for their work with qbs lol.
I wish he was still the qb in Chicago.
Womp womp caleb better
They have to improve o line, any qb will struggle behind that atrocious line.
@@FrierenAza on u know this based on exactly what, no one knows how he is, hasn't played a single minute on a NFL field yet
@@Tullysplaytime Caleb is a far superior prospect than Fields was. That's the point
Look at #12 Velus Jones blocking in the first play. Shows you how much the team in Chicago loved Fields. Steelers will love him too, hope he plays well for them. Something tells me that Fields won't take as many late hits in Pittsburgh as he did in Chicago. Steelers don't let that crap happen.
lol Thanks for the laugh. Your comment is hilarious.
I’m a GB fan & most of GBs fan base was praying that the Bears gave him a max deal. That’s just how good he is. Now my team will have to deal with Williams. 🙄
Bears GM actually made a decision that was so un Bears like. 🤣
I’m also a Packers fan, and I’m definitely not convinced we need to worry about Caleb Williams yet. From the film I’ve watched, it seems like Fields and Williams are damn near the same prospect….
@@PatriotWatchUSA I never said he wasn’t. I’m saying Caleb Williams looks like he’ll be terrible as well lol
@@PatriotWatchUSA okay 🤷🏻♂️
NO BUDDY! THE TIDES TURNING!@@basedWisco715
@@basedWisco715 wild, you would think after watching so much good quarterback play you would actually figure out how to identify a good quarterback
Steelers making playoffs again 💪💯
I bet they don't.
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂 no they won’t
With Russ at QB1.
Watch the breakdowns on him reading (or rather not) coverages and get back to me.
Not gonna lie this is one of the most disingenuous collections of plays ive seen chosen to ask if a QB is good or not. It was runs, an interception, and plays his timing was off/ he saw the play late. Idk how you can get an accurate answer of a QBs skill off the plays you selected. It’s seems you have an agenda, I don’t want to assume you’re unable to pick good from bad plays; however pointing out these plays ONLY and not including the plays that led to the bears winning those games is quite discouraging
There is nothing "disingenuous" about this video. It is this person's evaluation of a player. Feel free to make your own video of your evaluation. I look forward to the comments.
@@spud1159 The video is clearly disingenuous, don’t need to explain that simple fact. And as a viewer I can critique any aspect of the video I want. Feel free to explain how this video is ingenious in any way, I’ll be waiting.
Bring back the fire outro what’s going on Jax?!?
Can’t read defense holds the ball to long misses open read doesn’t trust his eyes he’s cooked
Bro you're just talking.
No that's the truth. Why do you think nobody wanted this GREAT QB @@zaziedabeast9692
How do you think he got 2,500 passing yards in 12.5 games this year? Did they magically arive.
You type that like its good or something? Good QBs pass for 4,000 yards not 3,000. That is old NFL. Herbert throws for over 5,0000 each year. So do several others. JF is not a starting NFL QB and thats ok. Dry your tears @@BigG6179
@@BigG6179 I didn’t say he doesn’t throw the ball. He’s playing QB in the nfl where teams are passing more than ever. But he will miss wide open receivers while staring them down. He locks on to one receiver far too long. He can’t go thru his progression fast enough.
At 3:16 DJM runs out of space at the side line. This play should be called from the left hash to roll right. In other words it should utilize the wide the side of the field. In this case the play is to the weak side. That’s a fundamental mistake by the OC.
He threw it too late, with too much loft, not enough speed, and to the wrong spot. Also the receiver should have run a deeper route with a sharper cut. He should have thrown it before the receiver broke and it should be high and toward the sideline so that a defender can’t undercut it. The loft also gave the defender time to cut in front of the receiver on a ball that was already under thrown and misplaced.
@@calvinlow2 I didn’t see that at all. The play was ran how it’s designed. Moore didn’t have enough separation. Using the short side did T allow enough space for Moore to get separation. Using the side side would creat space for DJ to get separation or more space for JF to run. It’s a bad play call.
@@mihnic0504 you are 100% wrong lol. Let it go
Fields has never had the proper talent around him or any good nfl coaching. I will always be a fan of his.
Your comment is complete nonsense
He had one of the best wr1/te1 combos in the nfl last year and his coaches have been high end qb coaches who have developed other good/elite qbs 😂😂
DJ Moore, Cole Kmet, Darnell Mooney are scrubs all of a sudden? 🤨
poor franchise: high potential
AMEN BROTHER 🙏 !!!
you have never seen Mike Vick lol that did this better and was actually much better Than this BUST!
So basically he's a running back
YES who gets hurt every year
No go watch Chase Daniel and Tim Jenkins break down Fields. This dude just wants to show a couple bad throws..
Fields will never be NFL starter after this year. Chase is a hack. Watch his break down without the volume. @@BigG6179
EXACTLY! USE HIM LIKE TAYSOM HILL ONLY HES DUE FOR A SEASON ENDING INJURY! HES MISSED APPROX. 25% OF HIS GAMES DUE TO INJURY!
YEP YEP @@peggymartinez-hg9lm
Yes, he's good. When there wasn't 300 pound D Linemen coming unblocked on almost every play and he has a clean pocket, he was extremely accurate, especially his deep ball. Honestly has one of the best deep balls in the league statistic-wise which is going to benefit the Steeler's young, speedy receivers like Pickens. And when he needs to run, he's the best QB in the league at it. He's just as fast and shifty as Lamar, but he's big and hard to tackle like Josh Allen. He consistently shakes off sacks from people like Hutchinson, Miles Garrett, Fletcher Cox, etc and makes big plays. And off topic, I did find it weird that people were using his total stats against him when he missed 4 and a half games. People might not want to hear it, but if he played all 17 games he would've been a 3200+ yard passer while having 800+ rushing yards, based on his per-game averages. That's a pretty good season for a dual threat QB if you ask me. But still, there are things he can improve on of course. Having a quicker release on his throw, for example, but every problem he still has left can be ironed out easily by a good coach, in my opinion.
You shouldn't use his per game passing stats because they are EXTREMELY skewed by 2 games. He averaged 308 pass yards and 4 pass tds per game vs Washington and Denver but only 176 pass yards and 0.72 pass tds per game in the other 11 games. He had 617 pass yards and 8 pass tds vs Washington and Denver and only 1,945 pass yards and 8 pass tds in the other 11 games. If you go by the 11 game sample size instead of the two game sample size he would've had 2,992 pass yards and 13 pass tds in 17 games last year. That's TERRIBLE for any style qb. Seriously, look at his game splits...
- Vs Wash (32nd def) n Den (27th def):
8 pass tds
1 int
1 fumble
- Other 11 games:
8 pass tds
8 ints
9 fumbles
Other than smoking 2 of the worst defenses in the nfl he was trash the other 11 games.
Feilds may just have been in the wrong offence.
Try to SPELL “offense” properly.
Wow Atlanta, Phoenix, Atlanta again, Phoenix again and misses the OPEN man.
He low key needs to go to the ravens to develop his throwing like Lamar but happy to have em
He can't throw but you happy to have em?
@@PatriotWatchUSA u ever watched pickett play?
You want to trade two bad QB for two new bad QB that's fine with me. My team is marching forward. Yours is tryng to fool you. Pacify. @@tbreezo6293
@@tbreezo6293"he's better than Pickett" 😂😂😂.... and?
@@AdamB34 better than what we had at the end of the day if u saw picket play
He needs to switch to RB or go to the UFL honestly 😢
Idk what QBs you have been watching, but Russ has that sane escapability, and unlike Fields, he can make great passes in those situations.
You Fields-lovers need to give it up. There’s is no reason whatsoever to believe that he can or should displace Russ until maybe 2028, when Russ is finished.
I’m from Illinois, He’s decent just don’t know if he can reach his full potential
Yeah 5 win decent.
@@PatriotWatchUSA his line was kinda ass and his oc coach
His line was fine he held the ball too long. Plenty of articles for you to red at your pace. His OC had a job way before he did sooo there's that. JF will never be a franchise QB @@idctoniOnIG
@@idctoniOnIGoline was ranked 5th in Pass Block Win Rate and 2nd in Run Block Win Rate last year. Fields has taken over 90 sacks with 4+ seconds of protection and over the last 3 years no qb has held the ball longer than Fields. But sure... it's everyone else's fault 🤷♂️
As a Bears fan that watched many games, i always cringed when we NEEDED him to score points, when we had to score and ball was in his hands it never looked good, my man couldnt lead a drive to save us EVER! Blame everything you want but fields makes too many mistakes, bad throws, holds the ball to long, fumbles, etc... I hope Pittsburgh can turn him around but he was traded for a 6th for a reason. (This is from someone with a home and an away JF1 jerseys, I had hope too but it didnt work out)
Fields was horrific in the 4th quarter. 3 game winning drives in 3 years.
@@jimmymacnutrition6628 thank you!
@@jimmymacnutrition6628he was never put in position to succeed…
@@Trimmxthy Bagent seemed to succeed with the same O line and weapons. 🤔 The league has spoken and Fields is just a backup and may end up as a 3rd stringer shortly.
Quick Answer: No!
he lost out at Georgia to Jake Fromm for gods sake!
Soon he got to Ohio State with talent he took off like nothing before
NO
Do run first QBs or pass first QBs win super bowls?
QBs with a good team win super bowls
Pass first QB is the key to life. A runner has never won
Good QB on good teams win SB. You can win without a good team but not without a good QB> All you have top do is rank your QB in your division. That is how you stand @@zaziedabeast9692
@@zaziedabeast9692no because the niners lost with a stacked roster
Why are you highlighting only the bad throws? At least someone like Tim Jenkins highlights the good and bad. You are really trying to paint your anti Fields narrative because look at the god damn score. How do you think he got those numbers. You are deceiving your watchers. He is not a Bear anymore show the good throws....
He sucks. He has a low iq and was traded for a potato for a reason. He limits an offense and gets sacked to much because he cannot process fast enough. He has good throws, mainly because a defenders bites due to the fear of the run. Running backs should not play QB. He is not good enough to be a starter, every single starter in the league gives a team a better chance. Also, once he slows down in a few years, he will be worthless. See cam newton now and lamar jackson in two years. Who was gifted an mvp due to white guilt because his stats screamed that he was barely a top 15 qb in the league.
Anyone with half a brain can see what he sees. Don’t worry dude, if you love Fields he’s gonna develop into a superstar in Pittsburgh and prove us all wrong 😰
I couldn’t have been the only none to have thought this! I rather him of made a definitive statement or his opinion instead of proposing a question and showing strictly “bad” plays. It’s funny
The dude had 2500 passing yards 12.5 games. The yards came from good throws. He clearly can read defenses and time his throws to get those yards. It is just a fuckin made up myth that this kid can't play. Do you even know the names of his pass catchers in 3 years? @@juanmikel7507
Hes good.
He shity
@PatriotWatchUSA coming from a little ass kid who can't even spell must mean a whole lot
lol Done on purpose but whatever makes you happy. Yeah JF going to explode in Pitt. lol Enjoy @@Yk_ItsBreezy
Good at what exactly? 2 big runs every 2 games?
@@AdamB34 🤣 tf are u on do u need a video or sum shi cuz I can make one for ur dumbass.. woulda had 3k sum passing if not for all that dropped dimes lil boy. He did not have a team, got one good wr n gave him career high stats same with kmet. Keep watching the score n being a casual that knows Jack shit🤣
Justine is going be all good better watch and see
Yup. He’ll be all good because he will be fully healthy. Do you know why he will be fully healthy?
BECAUSE RUSS WILL BE PLAYING!
Justin is at best, a 3rd stringer.
He's as athletic, no denying that.
But he struggles with the mental aspects of the game. He can't read defenses or anticipation of blitzes. Thus he makes no line adjustments and audibles. He has poor pocket awareness and as athletic as he is, he gets sack way too often.
He can't even keep the defense on their toes by making as simple a. I've as varying cadence.
The defense always gets a jump on him.
(Rogers would be the complete opposite of this simple quarterbacking move).
And to top it off, while he has a strong arm, he cannot seem to anticipate throwing lanes.
Scramble to hivehoo the 🏈 hoping someone runs it down. Justin's ball is at best a wing and a prayer.
Justin is great qb there is not a qb in NFL who hasn't missed a throw DJ more had more yards with Justin than any other qb Cole kmet had a career year Justin had over 2500 passing yards in 13 games he is great qb passing and running the bears are historically cheap organization
Moore had that many yards due to his career high in YAC, not because of Fields. He had one of the lowest yards before catch of his career. He was just taking short passes from Fields and turning them into bigger gains on his own. Fields also had 25% of his passing yards and 50% of his pass tds in TWO games. Here, look at his passing splits...
- Vs Den (27th def) n Wash (32nd def):
308 pass yards per game
8 pass tds
1 int
1 fumble
- Other 11 games:
176 pass yards per game
8 pass tds
8 ints
9 fumbles
He was literally only good vs two of the worst defenses in the nfl.
Kmet was just as productive with Bagent as he was with Fields. He set a career high in receptions in one game and had 1 of his two career 2 td games with Bagent
There's no way in hell as a human I'm going to fall for the Steelers thing again. Too bad you lose
He's gonna be demoted to Taysom Hill 2.0 within a couple years
U MEAN THIS YEAR LOL
He is the future of the steelers put good coaching around him pound the rock and play defense = wins
@@antoinethurman83just about any qb can win games with a great rushing offense and great defense and great coaching around him but good qbs can win if they have only one or none of those things
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Yep
Is what u always say whatever someone offers u drugs
No offensive player will ever be good in Chicago so
Who knows
Steeler fans should worry about the Steel city. They seem to be a few years behind the Bears
Dj Moore and Cole Kmet are two of the best at their positions. Wtf are you talking about?
nah
He better than Russ Wilson
lol will never be
Russ' worst season as a passer is significantly better than Field's best
He's basically a faster Desmond Ridder except Ridder has better field vision and can read defense... sometimes
After 3 years, Fields still doesn't know how to 'manage a game'.
Fields is a highlight player....not a winning player, and has a poor 25L to 10W record.
His future is as a gimmick player, not a starting QB.
YEP YEP
Not true he went to a franchise that can't develop quarterbacks with potential.
What franchise can? You just parroting what someone else said. @@lachanjoscales1682
He's still at a franchise that can't develop QB's. @@lachanjoscales1682
TRY 10-28
He is complete garbage in the 4th quarter. He can lose a lead like no other QB in the league.
Your bold
Hell the Bears can't develop elite quarterbacks in their history. You would look like garbage 🗑 too.
Get ready for the O line is horrible excuses after both Wilson and Fields get sacked like crazy.
Russ will be in the MVP conversation this year. Watch!
@@DeCurtaRicanCould be if the line holds up. As a Bears fan, I am just happy to be rid of Fields. Lots of people bashing Russ for no reason. What more does the guy have to do to get some respect?
He has a bad throwing motion, he doesn't see the field well and doesn't trust it when he sees it... All not good
As a RB maybe. He's had 3 full seasons to show something as QB, more than enough time to prove himself and he hasn't. Worse still he completely folds to division rivals, the teams that know him best can easily shut down what little production he does make. And how do these division rivals beat him? By daring him to pass his way to victory and he failed every time.
Yes best comment on this page. Packers and Vikings both knew what to do. Not only did they know what to do but they told everyone. Keep him in the pocket
He limits an offense. Look at the offense under bagent vs. Fields. Fields does not have the IQ. His big plays come because a bad defense bites on the threat of the qb run. Multiple times fields has ran to left towards the line, the defender bites and he dumps it over his head to moore and moore runs to the house. It pumps his mediocre numbers but he will never win, like lamar. Running QBs have a short life in the nfl. Once lamar slows dowm he will suck and his window is about another two years. The brain is the strength of a great qb, legs are a nice fourth or fifth skill.
Bagent was spoon fed a 1-2 read offense. The line quite literally got beat every other players. Getsy wasn't about to have an undrafted rookie run the same unlocked play book as Fields. In 4 games bagent was alright and he did his best and I love him for it. But when we needed him to do more in the LA game or win it at NO(where he had 4 chances I believe) the offense sputtered. Fields is also highly intelligent, scored an all time high on the wonderlic also had an offer to go to Harvard. Yes you need IQ dudes got it he's not dumb. Feel free to disagree I see him being one of the better QBs soon.
WONDERLIC DOSENT MEAN SQUAT! JF IS A ONE READ THEN RUN QB!@@star13km82
@@star13km82Harvard has an entire football team full of genius level scrubs that can score higher than 99% of nfl players on the wonderlic but can't even sniff a roster spot in the nfl. Also, Bagent got sacked 5 times in 4 starts for a sack% of about 3.5% while Fields got sacked 44 times in 13 starts for a sack% of about 10.5%. So you can blame the oline all you want but Fields took sacks at a 3x higher rate than Bagent
@AdamB34 I already mentioned I dislike the bagent comparisons, they're lame and have no context when brought up. Dude ran the elementary school offense. 2 reads at the most and screens. Getsy knew this oline was awful, they'd be bottom 5 if Fields wasn't so dam talented and bailed them out. Bagent couldn't, throw the ball or die! Also I apologize forget the wonderlic there's a mental aptitude test the NFL does and out of +6,500 players Fields is number 1! He scored 130, Mahomes is 110. Fields has all the talent in the world to be great, he's not stupid and doesn't have processing issues, he's had oline will protect every other snap and recievers never separate issues. Pittsburgh is a good spot and he's likely to resurrect his career the next few seasons.
@@star13km82 you seriously have issues homie. An aptitude test is utterly meaningless when it comes to processing and reading defenses. Just because you can get a master's degree it doesn't mean you can process a defenses in under 2 seconds and make reads in under 2 seconds and then make an accurate pass. It just means you can pass a test 😆😆😆. Why doesn't Harvard have dozens of players in the nfl if high test scores is so meaningful? Gee, it's almost like school intelligence and football intelligence are different. That might explain why guys who can barely read or write and got Cs-Ds in school can still be high level football players 🤔...
Once again... you brought up Bagent but this was also true FOR EVERY OTHER QB WHO STARTED ON THE SAME TEAMS AS FIELDS. Here, look for yourself....
2021 sack%:
Fields- 11.8%
Foles- 10.6%
Dalton- 7.1%
2022 sack%:
Fields- 14.7%
Siemien- 7.1%
Peterman- 3.8%
2023 sack%:
Fields- 10.6%
Bagent- 3.4%
Notice a pattern 🤔 😆😆😆
Is CORNERBACK not an important position to you? 🤔 Where is your video evaluating the best cornerbacks of the 2024 draft?
Hes not a bad QB, he just cant pass well. 😂
We're not gonna give him the same treatment as Tebow? Interesting
DONT INSULT TEBOW HE TOOK AND W ON A PLAYOFF GAME! LMAO
@@peggymartinez-hg9lm You're the reason I hit my wife.
Tebow started 3 games his rookie year, 11 games his 2nd season then never started another game at qb and was out of the league entirely after his 3rd season. Fields has already started 22 more games than Tebow at qb. They literally tried moving Tebow to tight end after his 2nd season. So what exactly are you whining about?
@@AdamB34 he's gay
He's like Wilson but much more athletic. Both of them don't throw in the middle.
Fields CAN’T throw over the middle. Russ has been reluctant to use the middle at various points in his career. Theresa world of difference between those two guys.
Russ can throw over the middle. He has had times when he didn’t do it, but Russ can kill any defense from any angle if the O-line and receivers do their part. And you don’t send a fully covered, fragile, 5’10 slot receiver coming off an injury over the middle.
In fact, one of the games I saw him use the middle brilliantly all afternoon was Seahawks vs. Steelers (2019). There’s a 00:02:47 video with plenty of footage of Russ unloading the ball quickly, playing on schedule, standing strong in the pocket, and hitting guys over the middle.
Btw, I don’t think Fields is a better athlete either! So he doesn’t even have THAT over Russ. He’s faster, but Russ is slippery and can do more with his arm on the run.
Anyone who thinks these QBs are the same has an undiscerning eye. Yes, Fields shares some traits with young Russ, but Russ is on a completely different planet as a passer, playmaker, and leader.
Yes, I said leader. Contrary to what a lot of people think, Russ is well-liked by most players. But leadership isn’t about being liked. It’s about commanding respect. Some guys may not even like him, but they respect him. You hear that even from LoB teammates. Honestly, it was one mouth who stirred up all the trouble: Richard Sherman, and it was mostly out of jealousy!
Nope hes not a good qb.
Clown
Why you hope that
Russel wilson burner account
@@nathanwaller8932 I dont hope it. Just reality.
@@FluffyFutonCushions lol nope
Justin fields is a bum
this is honestly an awful video showing some of his escape ability, How about showing how Blind this guy is? Misses wide open targets every other play. Terrible accuracy.
He’s a running back, not a quarterback. This idea that he’s gonna come in a save the Steelers is nonsense. Yes, he can pull off a few plays here and there, but he’s not going to get you to the playoffs. He will lead your team to an 8-9or a 7-10 record. He’s just not good enough
NO!
lets just face it justin fields is wrong color for play quaterback, if he white people would talk about him like trevor lawrence, like he just had a rough star, just needs to put it all together. only meatheads will disagree.
Justin fields last 17 regular season games: 61.7%, 4,226 total yards, 31 total TDs, 13 INTs, 12 FMB
Trevor Lawrence last 17 regular season games: 66.8%, 4,432 total yards, 24 TDs, 11 INTs, 12 FMB
Victim mentality runs strong with you huh? I like how you include Fields (all TDs) including runs. I think the argument about Lawrence vs Fields is if your looking for a pocket passer Lawrence is the clear winner. And since most teams are, that's why he is viewed as the better QB, nothing to do with ANYTHING Else
Fields has 25 total tds his last 17 games, not 31 and Lawrence has 26 total tds, not 24. Lawrence has also already made a pro bowl and won a playoff game while Fields has 10 wins and only best 2 winning teams in 3 years 😂😂😂
Fields is so bad.
He has a rocket and he has elite speed. His accuracy isn’t even bad. His decision making and poise seems to be extremely lack luster though. If you could devise a way to simplify the game for him, he could be a good QB. I don’t know that’s doable in the NFL though. They seemed to accomplish that for him at Ohio State.
Our fuckin Bears are bad we should have never drafted him. We can't develop quarterbacks properly. WE RUIN THEM!!!
He runs around alot that's about it
People need to understand CHICAGO IS TRASH WHEN IT COMES TO QBS!
So is Pittsburgh other than Roethlisberger since Bradshaw 😂
Steelers fans love Bear’s sloppy seconds. Y’all didn’t learn with Mitch huh.
how’s claypool treating you guys? Thought so
Ima bears fan and we got claypool for a 2nd we can’t talk😭
Claypol didn't hurt us or our season. Felds will. @@djcook
Didn't hurt us not for a minute . @@dcpettis9573
It's not like we specifically targeted Fields. Justin Fields is only in a Steelers uniform because Kenny Pickett didn't want to compete with Russell Wilson come this training camp. The front office was perfectly content heading into 2024 season with Russ and Kenny. Whether it be Justin or Kenny, we were going to have a young QB with lots of issues that need hammering out. In this light, it's not so bad. We didn't break the bank and Russ is still going to be our starter regardless.
Justin Fields looks like Kenny Pickett with more athletic ability and a stronger arm.
What does that even mean? Pickett was sent packing because he was afraid to compete with Russ knowing he’d lose out.
Williams will be a bust big time no doubt
Won't be hard outplaying JF
THATS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DONT REALIZE! JF INJURIES WERE ANOTHER HUUUUGE CONCERN!@@PatriotWatchUSA
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