Colleen Hoover has clearly never heard of subtlety, since all of her character names are hard to take seriously. Lily Blossom Bloom runs a florists, Atlas is the centre of her world, and Ryle gets easily riled up.
The way I can't tell if the Ryle one is legit or a joke 😭 can't rule out anything when it comes to Colleen "we both laugh at our son's big balls" Hoover
apparently it's from Blake's closet which is a choice tbh, we already see that the hair care brand is basura now whenever she announces a clothing brand it will never sell
I am beginning to doubt the claims that Blake Lively dresses herself and not a stylist. Whatever you may think of her, her red carpet looks are pretty great. She boasted that many of Lily's outfits came her and Gigi Hadid's closet and if this is how she is dressing herself, then.... yikes. I think she works with a stylist (probably under strict NDA) that helps to edit down her outfits to something more refined and cohesive that we see on the red carpet. Even before the drama started, many people were side eyeing how Blake looked as Lily and were saying that someone in the costume department must hate her as they managed to make Blake Lively look bad. Only for us to learn (months later) that she choose most of the outfits.
Ironically, Justin Baldoni, the director who also played the abusive husband, was more aware of the tough subject matter than Colleen Hoover, the actual writer, and Blake Lively, who played the victim. They seemed intent on marketing it as a romantic love story, and downplaying the domestic abuse.
Fr and I've seen ppl say it's weird that he wanted to play that role. I was like....SOMEONE HAS to play it he is an ACTOR💀💀💀 And he is actually drawing attention to domestic violence and abusive relationships!
Justin apparently gave that scene to Blake so that she could write in a way that she would be comfortable acting in only for her to give to her HUSBAND which was not Justin's point🤦♀️
"Why is she always apologizing to him" That's one of the main sings of gaslighting and abuse. The abuser twists stories and memories and always tries to make you feel in the wrong or make you feel bad about things, even if you did nothing wrong
Rightt, some of her commentary rubbed me the wrong way. Like when she said “what kind of horrible answer is that” to Lily’s mom saying that it would’ve been harder to leave (her abusive husband). I feel like people don’t really have a good grasp of how dv victims think and end up saying insensitive things.
Totally agree! And no hate on her, love her commentaries and I can tell it wasn't said out of malice but some of her comments were really callous. The movie is a complete joke but yeah those are serious topics, and unfortunately victim blaming is still a big issue around domestic violence
The way the new ages make MORE sense because the book had Ryle as a fully fledged neurosurgeon at 29????? which, girl, literally impossible so that was like one of the only positive changes. Casting kinda....strange, still.
Honestly I was roasting the casting but I think they all gave great performances and the older ages make sense. Although I don’t know what the characters were like in the books so idk
@@manahil8746 it definitely was. I think maybe if Blake Lively wasn’t in it because I think her acting just didn’t fit. She always acts the same in everything she does. Her range just isn’t there
Even though that was very unrealistic and a lot of things in the book was problematic to me, at least the ages made sense. Like Lily having her first love at 15 with an 18 y/o, losing him very tra umatisingly, and finding the next one at 23 with a 30 y/o. The problematic ages and/or power dynamic made sense considering she saw her dad being ab usive to her mom. Also if I remember right, in the book it was mentioned in passing that Lily tried finding love between losing Atlas and finding Ryle in highschool and college, but they were all just flings or hopeless ones. It showed that due to her tra uma she had a pattern of being with the wrong people and made us understand why she fell for Ryle in a short time. Considering that they aged everyone up in the movie to make their life achievements sound realistic, they could have also added something like showing Lily go through multiple short but abusive relationships before meeting Ryle, to establish a pattern. In the movie it seemed like after Atlas, she just went single for 10 or 15 years, had no one hit on her or she felt no sparks for anyone, and suddenly met Ryle and fell in love with him in few days, which is not unrealistic but very uncommon.
Madame Web too. Ms. Johnson went from "I've always loved marvel movies" to "I've watched about 4% of marvel movies". Hate it or not that was truly a performance.
And it failed like girl. It made her look like an old person that tried too hard to dress young it was weird and uncomfortable like why so much carhart
And like they could’ve done it well if they handled the press properly. Oppenheimer was also a seirous movie, but the reason barbenheimer worked was because well a. Barbenheimer happened naturally by the fans online and wasn’t orchestrated by studios but b. In all the interviews with Oppenheimer, they didn’t play down the subject matter that they were dealing it, they treated the movie itself seriously and the subject matter seriously. They didn’t do that here, they tried to underplay the movie by focusing on the fashion and the “romcom”aspect , which btw, focusing on the fashion didn’t have to be a bad thing if they treated it with some nuance and how fashion explored what the characters were going through in the movie, but they didn’t so…
It made no sense to to the flashbacks with Atlas before she met him again. It made it seem like she was constantly thinking about him. Plus those scenes being shown at the same time as she was falling in love with Rile was a terrible decision. Couldn’t really take them being in love seriously
That's what! Considering that they aged everyone up in the movie to make their life achievements sound realistic, they could have also added something like Lily going through multiple short but ab usive relationships after Atlas and before Ryle, to establish a pattern. If I remember right, in the book it was mentioned in passing that Lily tried finding love between losing Atlas and finding Ryle in highschool and college, but they were all just flings or hopeless ones. It showed that due to her tra uma she had a pattern of being with the wrong people and made us understand why she fell for Ryle in a short time. Even though a lot of things in the book was problematic to me, at least the ages made sense. Like Lily having her first love at 15 with an 18 y/o, losing him in a very tra umatising way, and finding the next one at 23 with a 30 y/o. The problematic ages and/or power dynamic made sense considering she grew up in an ab usive environment. In the movie it seemed like after Atlas, she just went single for 10 or 15 years, had no one hit on her or she felt no sparks for anyone, and suddenly met Ryle and fell in love with him in few days, which is not unrealistic but very uncommon.
the flashbacks are from her diary which idk why they didnt included ... so much important scene from the book they skipped out which can make someone lost
THE FLOWER SHOP AND FLOWER THEME WAS SOOO WASTED. They could’ve made something so interesting with floriography. It’s a language based on flowers and was heavily used back in the Victorian era to communicate feelings, desires, etc. with bouquets.
loool. Cant remember if i have read any of her stuff, but my sister who nvr reads started recently with her books. My book sis was like, "OMG Z started reading and you won't believe the author she's binge-ing!"
I saw a video of someone saying the reason the abusive scenes were blurred was so the viewers could think it was an accident and forgive Ryle like Lily did
yup. and it worked bc it kinda showed how some people see it and i was like hmmmm kinda gaslighted. and i was watching it with my sister who had been in an abusive relationship a few yrs ago, and she was telling me it really took a while for something to click in her head and for her to realize that all that shit that happened to her was actually on purpose, and how it still took a lot longer to finally get out of this relationship.
40:11 absolutely, omg they didn't made us relate to her or at least understand her behaviour. ryle didn't seem as charismatic as he should in order to manipulate someone with a smile and he showed all red flags right at the very beginning, which made her seem stupid rather than a victim. i woulnd't be surprised if the book was just as shallow because i've read november 9 from CoHo and she LITERALLY made the male lead an abusive guy who commited CRIMES against the female protagonist and it was all okay by the end so...
@@lolaadam3788oh please, did you get “good person” brownie points for that. Victims are often shown a facade by abusers, abusers don’t just blatantly show it on them, do you think that women would get with these men if it was out there, no. By making it so obvious in the movie is almost making it seem like victims knowing get into relationships when all the signs are there when that’s not usually the case. Don’t twist it into “you’re calling victims stupid” no one said that.
Another way they could’ve made this movie more believable is by having Ryle’s be more loving/kind towards Lily (i.e. love bombing her), than overtime Ryle’s start becoming much more aggressive/abusive, while also having flashbacks of her parents’s relationship. Psychologically speaking, people tend to in romantic relationships that are familiar to them. Meaning, if you have an abusive parent in your household, there is a high chance that their child is either going to be in an abuser &/or be with an abuser. Instead of having flashbacks with Atlas, they should’ve had it with just the parents!
@netflixpartyy Cause she's a freak and views it as romantic She also admitted to falling in love with ryles character, so there was no hope to begin with
@@Unhinged_capybara all the female audience who didn't have a Wattpad phase live her books. you know how popular those walking red flags Wattpad bad boys were, right? this is exactly how they were and the female leads were all "I can fix him" like girl... that's not your job 🫠
The drama seemed to overshadow this movie, kind of like that Florence Pugh movie with Harry Styles. They talked more about behind the scenes drama than the story itself, and in both cases, it looks like the drama was more interesting than the story. 😂
I actually feel like him being aggressive when she first meets him was a good way to start the "warning signs" bc it was for an "understandable" reason. I wish her relationship with her father was explored like, maybe he was overly love bombing her & her mother. His sister was also a huge thing that could have complicated the abusive relationship.She owns a flower shop with her & it would have been interesting for the sister to be an enabler & for that to be another reason why it would be hard to leave. The divorce thing was another issue because he just kind of let her leave him & she said it while he was holding the baby??
That thing about “why is she always apologising”, “why didn’t she stand up for herself”….. Gurl, that’s how women who keep on living with abusers act like. That’s how they function.
The thing is. I will say, at least based on this. Her constant apologizing and excusing his behavior is genuinely what happens in these relationships. It's so sad, but unfortunately this is a reality for some women and men.
I agree I feel like the commentator doesn’t really understand these relationships (she did say this would never “work on her”). Also the violent scenes being blurry and ambiguous was supposed to, imo, show that victims aren’t fully aware of whether the situations they’re in constitute as abuse. Idk this felt a little out of touch for me as someone who’s gone through it :/
@@rixanahclosmurth506 I'm sorry you wnet through something like that. You're so strong and I hope you can find healing! Yeah this kind of talk irks me because people just don't understand how complex abuse is. She apologizes all the time and baby's him, because violence could be the consequence if she doesn't. Society as a whole doesn't have enough compassion or understanding for victims and it bothers me to my core. Stop asking why they didnt leave sooner. Start asking why the abuser is the way they are and how we as an society can prevent it.
The problem is unfortunately, the movie was directed exactly as the book is written. Some changes of course but the book to me doesn’t do a good job of making the audience feel for Ryle or Lily being in this relationship. That’s why the movie sucks. It needed to change a lot from the adaptation
Damn I’ve heard people say the book is bad but I assumed they were just hating bc of the drama…. it’s crazy to see that the original story was just as lackluster
@@netflixpartyy I was told that there were some good changes made from the book to the movie like how the movie ending is better. According to my sister, the source material still sucks and this is one of her better books.
33:30 “I think I’ll name my baby after the last person my abusive husband killed” 💀 WHYYY?? Like, no one was even asking, she came up with the weirdest possible option all on her own….
the fact she agrees on joint custody and visitation rights by the end of the book is the cherry on top in this mess 💀 like "it ends with us" except it doesn't because that man has an access to the baby and her life still. The whole story is so unserious I'm sorry
I also think they downplayed how abusive he is. Like if he really was that abusive you telling me he didn’t fight for her simply bc they had a daughter? Are they serious. So if it was a son he wouldn’t have cared? Like be so fr
Yea I’m surprised he didn’t try to injure the baby or threaten to fight for custody. Or go on a whole rant about how she must be only trying to divorce him to get with Atlas and he won’t let that happen
Out of all people, never expected Hasan Minhaj to be in this movie, like how much did they pay him 20:05 😭 I love his energy too but he deserves better than this mess
idk what mfs were expecting from COLLEEN HOOVER the woman who excused and defended her son after he SAed someone the woman who wrote "we laughed at our sons big ballss" the lady is NOT okay
So I haven't seen the movie but it looks like they really fucked up the pacing. The book shows a lot more of WHY Lily doesn't leave: he's super nice in the beginning (definitely love bombing in retrospect), she literally doesn't have a support system (her best/only friend is Ryle's sister and she has no family except her mom and that relationship is rocky), and the only marriage she's ever seen is her parents but her mom wont even speak bad about her dad so the abuse is kinda normalized. She doesnt really have anyone to talk to about this until Atlas reappears in her life. She also doesnt have tons of money/resources and divorce isn't cheap. Ryle is rich as hell so he'd have way better lawyers to defend him if she presses charges or divorces him Also I'm not going to defend Colleen Hoover but there's a note at the end of the book that gives helpful context. Lily and Ryle are modeled after her mom and dad, her dad was abusive to her mom. The scene in the kitchen where Ryle first hurts Lily is what happened the first time her dad hit her mom in real life. Some quotes: "When I decided I wanted to write this story, I first asked my mother for permission. I told her I wanted to write it for women like her. I also wanted to write it for all the people who didn't quite understand women like her. I was one of those people. The mother I know is not weak. She was not someone I could envision forgiving a man for mistreating her on multiple occasions. But while writing this book and getting into the mind-set of Lily, I quickly realized that it's not as black and white as it seems from the outside." "This book is different. This was not entertainment for me. It was the most grueling thing I have ever written. At times, I wanted to hit the Delete button and take back the way Ryle had treated Lily. I wanted to rewrite the scenes where she forgave him and I wanted to replace those scenes with a more resilient woman-a character who made all the right decisions at all the right times. But those weren't the characters I was writing.That wasn't the story I was telling. I wanted to write something realistic to the situation my mother was in-a situation a lot of women find themselves in. I wanted to explore the love between Lily and Ryle so that I would feel what my mother felt when she had to make the decision to leave my father-a man she loved with all her heart."
It’s the fact that Colleen Hoover treats domestic violence as something to spice up a relationship when in reality it’s actually awful and detrimental. Like, who let her? Also, Blake, gone ahead and keep that closet closed. Matter of fact, just burn it, cause chileeee 😩😭
I heard that Justin wanted to add more DV to the movie and really raise that awareness but Blake and him kept budding heads. He really wasn’t able to do what he was wanting to do with this movie bc of Blake and Ryan I feel like if it was just justin this movie would have been great but She wanted to raise awareness on her split ends by promoting her hair care line more than anything 😐😭
this movie had so much potential n im mad that Blake n Ryan ruined such an impactful movie!! Justin had everyones best interest in mind imo but he got stepped on in every direction even tho he's been wanting to make this movie correctly for YEARSSS
All the characters were too old for the movie Ryle knew about lily's dad being abusive from day one and still hit her anyways (i was so shook i had to stop reading and get breakfast) They made that first incident look like an accident but from the book he backhanded her for laughing at him for burning his hands bcoz she was tipsy (not an accident but as a reader it made you question whether it was coz it was so unexpected) I hated her giggling the outfits suuuuucked and her acting even worse (book lily was amazing, you would have loved her) They didn't give atlas enough show time Reading the book would have actually made you fall in love with ryle (book lily was so in love with him that it actually made you as a reader feel shitty for judging people who stay in abusive relationship) making the decision to leave him even harder (the movie made it seem like lily came to that decision so easily but it wasn't) As a reader, you also fall harder for atlas especially with their backstory and the current one (they left out so much that he did for her after leaving ryle😢 atlas is a sweetheart) Ryle tries to grape her and headbutts her till she actually loses consciousness... Basically they really downplayed the violence... Book ryle was one scary mofo.... I got chills every time they had to talk Lastly, I hate how they give villains back stories to justify their actions and don't even try to help them solve their "trauma". without the whole emmerson backstory i would have been okay with how they left ryle's story at but... Giving him that backstory humanizes him and makes it seem like there's hope for him after all and that he can be a better person if he gets therapy or sth (idk) Okay done ranting
These were all my opinions as well , the book was definitely better at explaining the relationships surrounding lily it upsets me how it was shown during the movie except for the scenes where Ryle hurting her were “accidents” that was great cause we can see it from a victim’s point of view
don't remind me of Collen Hoover,it took me so long to recover from the children s3xu4liz4tion,d€4d children and constant mc 4bus3 in EVERY SINGLE BOOK, they were so bad I stopped buying books without reading the reviews,trust me if I tell you she left me traumatized,and she has the guts to call her books "romances", they're absolutely not💀☠️
@@WhatExcellentBoiledPo-ta-toes no but the problem is many people give her books very high ratings so those ratings on Goodreads are sometimes deceiving🫠
Girl, this freezy hair was all over my screen, like. it's giving tired. It's giving messy, clamped extensions no oils, no nothing. Just dry, freezing all over the place. Hair like. not even a hair tie could even save it. Not even an up do.
24:24 Exactlyyy. This is what made me mad while watching this because in the book he pushed her as a result of his anger towards her because she got his hand hurt. But now they swapped the scenes around and it made it seem as though it was just an accident Which made it less impactful
I agree with that last bit. Although the lack of subtlety and build up might also be bc some abusers just do the horrible stuff one day and it’s like ‘out of the blue’. The problem was that by showcasing Ryle’s anger issues at the start, part of the audience (me!) is already saying NO DONT DO IT to Lily.
Colleen Hoover books HEAVILY and I mean HEAVILY romanticize abuse and incest (uncle, brother, father, grandpa, even step family) and I don’t understand why they’re so popular. Maybe people resonate with it? Idk what it is
The fact that your version of Blake Lively didn’t yell out “I WANT THE ERAS TOUR TO BE 48 HOURS!” means it was a lacklustre performance. Your Oscar has been put on hold (jk you were brilliant)
Let’s just remember, the victim is not the issue here. No matter how smart we think we are, it still could be us one day. It’s not their fault, man or woman, a victim is not responsible for being in that situation.
DV was portrayed so poorly in the main character's relationship for a 2h film. There was a lot of backstory which was alright but then when focusing on the "present" relationship it felt rushed and they only showed the physical violence, it didn't feel progressive like real situations.
This movie sucks for the following reasons • The actors are way older than the original characters in the book because apparently Colleen meant for them to be older in the books as well but it literally made sense for them to be younger as most of the book gave the vibe that Lily was still trying to find/discover herself and her being way younger than Ryle also made sense because that would make her more gullible to his gaslighting •That hand burn scene was done horribly. In the book, Ryle doesn't hit Lily as a sort of reflex to burning his hand.. he deliberately hits her because she laughed at him for burning his hand when his work depends on his hands.. and grabbing the pan or whatever that was with bare hands made the scene more unbearable whereas the scene in the book felt more natural because he was grabbing a pot that was on the stove which everyone has done that at least once. I will never understand why they chose to change that while making the movie •The "if you ever find yourself falling in love again" line was delivered too fast😭 it just didn't feel right •The acting was so awkward and the lines made everything worse.. who wrote that script?? Overall, this movie barely made sense.. and saying "homeless guy" like he wasn't her first love was diabolical
Someone gifted me this book for my birthday and I knew nothing going into it. I got about halfway through the book and really didn't like Lily. I didn't like anyone in the book and that was odd for me. I couldn't even place my finger on it I just didn't enjoy it. I finished it because I really just felt like I had to and it didn't get better. I understood what you were saying where it should have focused on Lily and Ryle's relationship, the impact of her relationship with her dad and how that influenced how she relates to others. Because even though they had us rooting for Atlas...he was just as flawed. I don't know....I just yeah.
i’m ngl though, i feel like the ambiguity of the violence had a point, but probably wasn’t executed well. a lot of the time in abusive relationships, the victims usually pass it off as a mistake, or accident to themselves. but also i defo agree with the other criticism
I think youre right they were trying to put us in the mindset of the victim. The confusion the gaslighting. Its her pov. But they mustn't have done it very well 😅
32:04 just to clear this up, their brother died when they were all little. The boy at the beginning that he was talking about was just his patient! It reminded him of his brother.
With all due respect, I disagree. It may have reminded him of his brother but it’s classic narcissist behavior to give little white lies in the beginning that add up to a covered truth. I think he lied on purpose in the beginning to get sympathy out of Lily on the roof. Plus, the fact he never told actually happened to his brother makes me believe that he killed his brother on purpose. He’s got psychopathic tendencies and “blacks out” when he gets mad and these things start at a very young age.
@@gloriakoehler3566 Just speaking as someone who’s read both books, he told the truth. That’s why he was so upset on the roof because he had to operate on the little boy who’d been shot by his brother as well. And what he did to his own brother really was an accident. I get the narcissistic traits, but he really did tell the truth in the beginning, he just didn’t fully explain to her the reason why that case was so personal to him. It’s clearer in the books.
Everyone talks about the horrible marketing of the movie (which is valid), but let’s talk about how horrible THE ACTUAL MOVIE, is. Why does it try to incorporate this soft romcom life and then force feed us snippets of her getting hurt? This cannot be real. If DV was the centre of the story, the movie should’ve taken a very dark undertone and could’ve easily had snippets of happy/intricate moments to show the reality of DV and how incredibly complex it really is. However, knowing that the author herself doesn’t even take the topic seriously, I’m not surprised. A UK movie called ‘Murdered by my boyfriend’, did this beautifully. In fact, it’s the only movie I think of when it comes to DV. It was done so well, dealing with the dark themes and subtleties of domestic abuse, so much so, that it still has a profound effect on me to this day. And the actors were not nearly as big as Blake Lively or Justin Baldoni. To see movies like these with some well known names, diminish the realities of DV and dismiss important themes, makes me unnerved and really what a waste of potential and money. Some less known actors could’ve easily taken on this script and incorporated it in a way that was telling to the audience. Just so disappointed honestly. I understand that it’s a book to movie adaptation so there can be some light mentions, but it’s still no excuse for the overall horrible quality. UGHH this could’ve been huge but I guess it was never gonna work out 😔
Movie isn’t good I get it but abuse is no joke. People have NO understanding the amount of psychological damage it causes even after leaving or while going through it. The fact everyone thinks it’s EASY to just stop or leave when in reality LEAVING Is the most dangerous times for victims!!! And there’s RARELY any consequences for abusers if ever!!!
the lack of nuance in the film was ASTOUNDING. on the topic of the sister, it should NEVERRR be a woman's job to fix a man. ain't no way u proved history repeats itself even tho the movie is supposed to speak AGAINST that...crickets.
I think that’s obvious. He has issues. But any sibling or family member is going to want change to happen, and more so if it means the person they love is in a relationship with a good person. It’s like a way of hope. I think people lack to think critically. No one ever said it’s a woman’s job to fix a man.
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no but I get what you were saying in the beginning regarding big actors, watch someone come up to me and say Zendaya wants to play my dark skin ass like why would I retaliate? free press
Blake's hair care should've been called ‘split ends with us'
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GIRLLL 😭😭😭 y’all be so creative with the insults 😂
That was... 😂😂😂
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when i tell u i spit my food out
Colleen Hoover has clearly never heard of subtlety, since all of her character names are hard to take seriously. Lily Blossom Bloom runs a florists, Atlas is the centre of her world, and Ryle gets easily riled up.
LMAOOOO 😭 wait this has me crying
The way I can't tell if the Ryle one is legit or a joke 😭 can't rule out anything when it comes to Colleen "we both laugh at our son's big balls" Hoover
Lily Blossom Bloom lowkey sounds like an MLP antagonist
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It’s givinggggg she went to the JK Rowling school of character naming
the outfits lily wears are a prime example of just because its designer doesn’t mean its cute
apparently it's from Blake's closet which is a choice tbh, we already see that the hair care brand is basura now whenever she announces a clothing brand it will never sell
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I am beginning to doubt the claims that Blake Lively dresses herself and not a stylist. Whatever you may think of her, her red carpet looks are pretty great. She boasted that many of Lily's outfits came her and Gigi Hadid's closet and if this is how she is dressing herself, then.... yikes. I think she works with a stylist (probably under strict NDA) that helps to edit down her outfits to something more refined and cohesive that we see on the red carpet. Even before the drama started, many people were side eyeing how Blake looked as Lily and were saying that someone in the costume department must hate her as they managed to make Blake Lively look bad. Only for us to learn (months later) that she choose most of the outfits.
Exactly
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always dropping that military lore 😭 PLEASE drop a storytime 🙏🏽
She liked this which means we better get that lore girl 😭
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Not her asking for a divorce while this dude is holding the baby💀
Same. I was like yo, stop. He could send the baby across the room 😢
I had the same thought 😂
No cause I thought he was gonna take off w the child 😭💀
Literally 😭😭 I was SO scared we'd get a repeat of For Colored Girls...
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Ironically, Justin Baldoni, the director who also played the abusive husband, was more aware of the tough subject matter than Colleen Hoover, the actual writer, and Blake Lively, who played the victim. They seemed intent on marketing it as a romantic love story, and downplaying the domestic abuse.
Some of ur comments fr give AI vibes these days 😅
Justin really tried his best to get the message out! It’s the way they scammed the viewers too bc her and Atlas didn’t even end up together…. 😭
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Fr and I've seen ppl say it's weird that he wanted to play that role. I was like....SOMEONE HAS to play it he is an ACTOR💀💀💀 And he is actually drawing attention to domestic violence and abusive relationships!
@@kiirr44he actually didn’t want to play him at first too lol, Coleen Hoover herself said she wanted Justin to play Ryle
No because Blake literally played herself mean girl af😭 like during the birth scene all I was thinking was “congrats on your little bump”
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no because why was she so mad at that poor interviewer..like miss girl you were pregnant 😭
The flashbacks are also one of the biggest reasons I stuck with the movie. Loved the younger actors.
They carried!!
They should have done a movie of that instead
they were amazing i truly hope they find bigger roles
The only good part of the book too lmfao
@@rosesal2473 I think that's what they're doing rn, the story of Lily and Atlas when they were younger
Not someone named Lily-fucking-Blossom Bloom thinking Rile Kincaid is an unbelievable name 😂.
Right like 😭😭😭
she got those names straight off of wattpad
The fact that Ryan Reynolds also re wrote the whole rooftop scene without permission from the actual writers is wild 😭 like cmon
Wait what? Are you for real wtf no wonder they tried to smear Baldoni
No wonder the jokes felt like Ryan Reynolds rejects lmao
oh thats why that dialogue when lily says "i thought you were a crypto bro" was so weird to me
Justin apparently gave that scene to Blake so that she could write in a way that she would be comfortable acting in only for her to give to her HUSBAND which was not Justin's point🤦♀️
what a mess!
"Why is she always apologizing to him"
That's one of the main sings of gaslighting and abuse. The abuser twists stories and memories and always tries to make you feel in the wrong or make you feel bad about things, even if you did nothing wrong
Rightt, some of her commentary rubbed me the wrong way. Like when she said “what kind of horrible answer is that” to Lily’s mom saying that it would’ve been harder to leave (her abusive husband). I feel like people don’t really have a good grasp of how dv victims think and end up saying insensitive things.
Agreed, it's something you don't really understand unless it happens to you
Thank you! Someone said it. The victim blaming is NOT it.
Totally agree! And no hate on her, love her commentaries and I can tell it wasn't said out of malice but some of her comments were really callous. The movie is a complete joke but yeah those are serious topics, and unfortunately victim blaming is still a big issue around domestic violence
Exactly .!
It’s the way I immediately canceled my tickets to this movie because of how BAD the reviews were 😭😭
HELPPP not cancelling the tickets 🤣🤣🤣
I bought mine BECAUSE of the reviews and let me tell you i was trying HARD not to laugh out loud in the middle of the cinema 😭😭
@@AAAAHHHHhhHme and my friends were literally laughing out loud majority of the movie😭😭😂
The way the new ages make MORE sense because the book had Ryle as a fully fledged neurosurgeon at 29????? which, girl, literally impossible so that was like one of the only positive changes. Casting kinda....strange, still.
Honestly I was roasting the casting but I think they all gave great performances and the older ages make sense. Although I don’t know what the characters were like in the books so idk
I feel like they could have made her younger and him older and that would have added something to the plot. But yea the older ages did make sense
@@tashayaharris5490idk I think aging them up was good but the casting was just shit
@@manahil8746 it definitely was. I think maybe if Blake Lively wasn’t in it because I think her acting just didn’t fit. She always acts the same in everything she does. Her range just isn’t there
Even though that was very unrealistic and a lot of things in the book was problematic to me, at least the ages made sense. Like Lily having her first love at 15 with an 18 y/o, losing him very tra umatisingly, and finding the next one at 23 with a 30 y/o. The problematic ages and/or power dynamic made sense considering she saw her dad being ab usive to her mom. Also if I remember right, in the book it was mentioned in passing that Lily tried finding love between losing Atlas and finding Ryle in highschool and college, but they were all just flings or hopeless ones. It showed that due to her tra uma she had a pattern of being with the wrong people and made us understand why she fell for Ryle in a short time.
Considering that they aged everyone up in the movie to make their life achievements sound realistic, they could have also added something like showing Lily go through multiple short but abusive relationships before meeting Ryle, to establish a pattern. In the movie it seemed like after Atlas, she just went single for 10 or 15 years, had no one hit on her or she felt no sparks for anyone, and suddenly met Ryle and fell in love with him in few days, which is not unrealistic but very uncommon.
the press run for this movie was giving Don't Worry Darling...just a hot mess 🤚🏽🚶🏽♀️
FR 💀
Madame Web too. Ms. Johnson went from "I've always loved marvel movies" to "I've watched about 4% of marvel movies". Hate it or not that was truly a performance.
The way the intro isn't even an exaggeration 😭
No cause I took this almost word for word from the IEWU premiere 😭
Justin Baldoni really did justice to ryle's character. But blake was just trying to look young.
And it failed like girl. It made her look like an old person that tried too hard to dress young it was weird and uncomfortable like why so much carhart
Lol what ,do you want her to go back in time so she can be young for this role?
Ryan wanted a Barbie Oppenheimer moment 😭
STOP😭😭😭😭😭
And like they could’ve done it well if they handled the press properly. Oppenheimer was also a seirous movie, but the reason barbenheimer worked was because well a. Barbenheimer happened naturally by the fans online and wasn’t orchestrated by studios but b. In all the interviews with Oppenheimer, they didn’t play down the subject matter that they were dealing it, they treated the movie itself seriously and the subject matter seriously. They didn’t do that here, they tried to underplay the movie by focusing on the fashion and the “romcom”aspect , which btw, focusing on the fashion didn’t have to be a bad thing if they treated it with some nuance and how fashion explored what the characters were going through in the movie, but they didn’t so…
Yeah but Deadpool was Barbie 😅
@@tarathoughts13BIN👏GO👏!!
No way girl. 7 seconds ago. Now this is what i call being chronically online💀
OMG HEYYYY 🩷
I thought I did something being 3 mins 😭😭😭
@@teletubbies617 LOLLLLL IKR
@@teletubbies617 idk how it happened😭 i opened yt right before the notification😭😭
It made no sense to to the flashbacks with Atlas before she met him again. It made it seem like she was constantly thinking about him. Plus those scenes being shown at the same time as she was falling in love with Rile was a terrible decision. Couldn’t really take them being in love seriously
Exactly my thoughts!!
Especially with how quick the “i love yous” happened
That's what! Considering that they aged everyone up in the movie to make their life achievements sound realistic, they could have also added something like Lily going through multiple short but ab usive relationships after Atlas and before Ryle, to establish a pattern. If I remember right, in the book it was mentioned in passing that Lily tried finding love between losing Atlas and finding Ryle in highschool and college, but they were all just flings or hopeless ones. It showed that due to her tra uma she had a pattern of being with the wrong people and made us understand why she fell for Ryle in a short time. Even though a lot of things in the book was problematic to me, at least the ages made sense. Like Lily having her first love at 15 with an 18 y/o, losing him in a very tra umatising way, and finding the next one at 23 with a 30 y/o. The problematic ages and/or power dynamic made sense considering she grew up in an ab usive environment. In the movie it seemed like after Atlas, she just went single for 10 or 15 years, had no one hit on her or she felt no sparks for anyone, and suddenly met Ryle and fell in love with him in few days, which is not unrealistic but very uncommon.
the flashbacks are from her diary which idk why they didnt included ... so much important scene from the book they skipped out which can make someone lost
@@debbiedebz7297yes literally
THE FLOWER SHOP AND FLOWER THEME WAS SOOO WASTED. They could’ve made something so interesting with floriography. It’s a language based on flowers and was heavily used back in the Victorian era to communicate feelings, desires, etc. with bouquets.
Nothing could EVER make me touch a single piece of Colleen Hoover material
loool. Cant remember if i have read any of her stuff, but my sister who nvr reads started recently with her books. My book sis was like, "OMG Z started reading and you won't believe the author she's binge-ing!"
@@YurrahAlHadi goodness me she chose one of (imo) the worst author's books to read😭
to be fair verity was a really good book
So real
I saw a video of someone saying the reason the abusive scenes were blurred was so the viewers could think it was an accident and forgive Ryle like Lily did
Ig their plan worked cuz I was almost gaslighted
correct. it was from lily's pov. the movie's goal is to answer the question ''why did she stay''.
yup. and it worked bc it kinda showed how some people see it and i was like hmmmm kinda gaslighted. and i was watching it with my sister who had been in an abusive relationship a few yrs ago, and she was telling me it really took a while for something to click in her head and for her to realize that all that shit that happened to her was actually on purpose, and how it still took a lot longer to finally get out of this relationship.
Interesting. That would be the only way I can forgive the way the movie portrayed dv
40:11 absolutely, omg
they didn't made us relate to her or at least understand her behaviour. ryle didn't seem as charismatic as he should in order to manipulate someone with a smile and he showed all red flags right at the very beginning, which made her seem stupid rather than a victim.
i woulnd't be surprised if the book was just as shallow because i've read november 9 from CoHo and she LITERALLY made the male lead an abusive guy who commited CRIMES against the female protagonist and it was all okay by the end so...
Exactly!!
That woman should be on a watch list.
While I do agree with you, I don´t think being stupid makes you any less of a victim.
@@lolaadam3788oh please, did you get “good person” brownie points for that. Victims are often shown a facade by abusers, abusers don’t just blatantly show it on them, do you think that women would get with these men if it was out there, no. By making it so obvious in the movie is almost making it seem like victims knowing get into relationships when all the signs are there when that’s not usually the case. Don’t twist it into “you’re calling victims stupid” no one said that.
@@AngusbeensActually, some do 🤷🏽♂️ .
I can’t take the names seriously 😭
Ryle Cincaid, Lily Blossom Bloom 😍‼️ it’s giving wattpad
@@netflixpartyyliterally😂
Another way they could’ve made this movie more believable is by having Ryle’s be more loving/kind towards Lily (i.e. love bombing her), than overtime Ryle’s start becoming much more aggressive/abusive, while also having flashbacks of her parents’s relationship. Psychologically speaking, people tend to in romantic relationships that are familiar to them. Meaning, if you have an abusive parent in your household, there is a high chance that their child is either going to be in an abuser &/or be with an abuser. Instead of having flashbacks with Atlas, they should’ve had it with just the parents!
You ate! Flashbacks of her parents instead of the ones with Atlas would have been so good
Fun fact all of the colleen Hoovers' male love intertest act like ryle.
(If you've read or know of her books)
Oh that’s not…. why does she romanticize abuse??
@netflixpartyy Cause she's a freak and views it as romantic
She also admitted to falling in love with ryles character, so there was no hope to begin with
@@netflixpartyyI think because it sells…I’m actually shocked that many women are into reading such kind of books
@@Unhinged_capybara all the female audience who didn't have a Wattpad phase live her books. you know how popular those walking red flags Wattpad bad boys were, right? this is exactly how they were and the female leads were all "I can fix him" like girl... that's not your job 🫠
Not in hopeless
The drama seemed to overshadow this movie, kind of like that Florence Pugh movie with Harry Styles. They talked more about behind the scenes drama than the story itself, and in both cases, it looks like the drama was more interesting than the story. 😂
Yeah but at least Florence Pugh is a talented actress, unlike here 😂
Same. I've watched tons of video on the drama because it's so interesting but have zero interest in actually seeing the movie lolol
"what an iconic time in history, not for people who look like me but you know what I'm saying"
Same gurl!😭😭
THAT PART HAD ME CACKLING PLEASE 😂
I actually feel like him being aggressive when she first meets him was a good way to start the "warning signs" bc it was for an "understandable" reason. I wish her relationship with her father was explored like, maybe he was overly love bombing her & her mother. His sister was also a huge thing that could have complicated the abusive relationship.She owns a flower shop with her & it would have been interesting for the sister to be an enabler & for that to be another reason why it would be hard to leave. The divorce thing was another issue because he just kind of let her leave him & she said it while he was holding the baby??
That thing about “why is she always apologising”, “why didn’t she stand up for herself”….. Gurl, that’s how women who keep on living with abusers act like. That’s how they function.
FR٫ LIKE I LOVE HER BUT SHE doesn't KNOW HOW DC VICTIMS ARE WITH THEIR ABUSER 😭
I was thinking the same thing..this was how I was in my abusive relationship 😭 which is embarrassing but that was my default
Exactly this girl ALWays Victim blames girls in abusive relationships
@@LuvNikNacit’s not embarrassing. It’s sad. Happened to me in my abuse too.
@@SillyWilly12384I don’t love her: I used to like her edits. She’s literally so blind to DV victims and abuse victims in general.
The thing is. I will say, at least based on this. Her constant apologizing and excusing his behavior is genuinely what happens in these relationships. It's so sad, but unfortunately this is a reality for some women and men.
I agree I feel like the commentator doesn’t really understand these relationships (she did say this would never “work on her”). Also the violent scenes being blurry and ambiguous was supposed to, imo, show that victims aren’t fully aware of whether the situations they’re in constitute as abuse. Idk this felt a little out of touch for me as someone who’s gone through it :/
@@rixanahclosmurth506 I'm sorry you wnet through something like that. You're so strong and I hope you can find healing! Yeah this kind of talk irks me because people just don't understand how complex abuse is. She apologizes all the time and baby's him, because violence could be the consequence if she doesn't. Society as a whole doesn't have enough compassion or understanding for victims and it bothers me to my core. Stop asking why they didnt leave sooner. Start asking why the abuser is the way they are and how we as an society can prevent it.
8:43 why is she acting soo dry then laughing at random moments its actually kinda embarrassing to watch ☠☠😭
The problem is unfortunately, the movie was directed exactly as the book is written. Some changes of course but the book to me doesn’t do a good job of making the audience feel for Ryle or Lily being in this relationship. That’s why the movie sucks. It needed to change a lot from the adaptation
Damn I’ve heard people say the book is bad but I assumed they were just hating bc of the drama…. it’s crazy to see that the original story was just as lackluster
@@netflixpartyy yeah. But don’t take my word I suggest reading and comparing honestly.
@@suna2556 Nah book is trash. No need to let people waste their time. I was so mad and disgusted after reading.
Some books don't deserve an adaptation and this is one of them.
@@netflixpartyy I was told that there were some good changes made from the book to the movie like how the movie ending is better. According to my sister, the source material still sucks and this is one of her better books.
33:30 “I think I’ll name my baby after the last person my abusive husband killed” 💀 WHYYY?? Like, no one was even asking, she came up with the weirdest possible option all on her own….
the fact she agrees on joint custody and visitation rights by the end of the book is the cherry on top in this mess 💀
like "it ends with us" except it doesn't because that man has an access to the baby and her life still. The whole story is so unserious I'm sorry
LITERALLY
"Whose child are you stressing out? No reason, no pay?" Im crryiinngg oh my god
I also think they downplayed how abusive he is. Like if he really was that abusive you telling me he didn’t fight for her simply bc they had a daughter? Are they serious. So if it was a son he wouldn’t have cared? Like be so fr
Fr the movie really thought it's that easy to leave abusers? Men like that would rather k*ll you than see you leave them.
Yea I’m surprised he didn’t try to injure the baby or threaten to fight for custody. Or go on a whole rant about how she must be only trying to divorce him to get with Atlas and he won’t let that happen
Out of all people, never expected Hasan Minhaj to be in this movie, like how much did they pay him 20:05 😭 I love his energy too but he deserves better than this mess
Ikr i was like araina what are you doing here 😂
Now tell me why the dude playing the abuser cares more about the abuse then the girl playing the abused ☠️
Justin carried this whole movie with his acting and by genuinely trying to spread awareness about dv
He sure as hell didn’t carry the movie with his acting lol
i know this is not the point but GIRLLL YOU LOOK SO GOOD
THANK YOU!!
I felt the same way I would not let him touch my belly to feel the baby, he lucky he even know I’m pregnant
Fr I would not have told him and asking him for help with the furniture?? UH UH I can hire somebody on Taskrabbit!!
idk what mfs were expecting from COLLEEN HOOVER
the woman who excused and defended her son after he SAed someone
the woman who wrote "we laughed at our sons big ballss"
the lady is NOT okay
She needs to be stopped fr
Wait what I knew about the son part but that last sentence uh weird she would say that 🤢
So I haven't seen the movie but it looks like they really fucked up the pacing. The book shows a lot more of WHY Lily doesn't leave: he's super nice in the beginning (definitely love bombing in retrospect), she literally doesn't have a support system (her best/only friend is Ryle's sister and she has no family except her mom and that relationship is rocky), and the only marriage she's ever seen is her parents but her mom wont even speak bad about her dad so the abuse is kinda normalized. She doesnt really have anyone to talk to about this until Atlas reappears in her life. She also doesnt have tons of money/resources and divorce isn't cheap. Ryle is rich as hell so he'd have way better lawyers to defend him if she presses charges or divorces him
Also I'm not going to defend Colleen Hoover but there's a note at the end of the book that gives helpful context. Lily and Ryle are modeled after her mom and dad, her dad was abusive to her mom. The scene in the kitchen where Ryle first hurts Lily is what happened the first time her dad hit her mom in real life. Some quotes: "When I decided I wanted to write this story, I first asked my mother for permission. I told her I wanted to write it for women like her. I also wanted to write it for all the people who didn't quite understand women like her. I was one of those people. The mother I know is not weak. She was not someone I could envision forgiving a man for mistreating her on multiple occasions. But while writing this book and getting into the mind-set of Lily, I quickly realized that it's not as black and white as it seems from the outside."
"This book is different. This was not entertainment for me. It was the most grueling thing I have ever written. At times, I wanted to hit the Delete button and take back the way Ryle had treated Lily. I wanted to rewrite the scenes where she forgave him and I wanted to replace those scenes with a more resilient woman-a character who made all the right decisions at all the right times. But those weren't the characters I was writing.That wasn't the story I was telling.
I wanted to write something realistic to the situation my mother was in-a situation a lot of women find themselves in. I wanted to explore the love between Lily and Ryle so that I would feel what my mother felt when she had to make the decision to leave my father-a man she loved with all her heart."
I just finished binging a bunch of videos only to refresh and see you’ve posted another one 💀 my lucky dayyyy
What’s even more hilarious is that the rooftop scene was written by the Ryan Reynolds. 😅
Omg that explains why it was the worst scene in the movie and significantly worse than the other ones 😭😭😭 there was such a disconnect
@@netflixpartyyit’s alleged that he rewrote that scene when the writer strike was going on
21:09 this is so bad like in the book he pushed her intentionally for laughing at his stupidity. They ruined everything
That’s even worse. Omggg this series is messy.
@@Nopenonameok it wasn't messier for the scene it needed to be😔
“I don’t have all day” *skips through*
LMFAOOO 😂😂😂
Justin Baldoni carrying the film like the king he is 😤💅🏾✨ no but seriously give the man a better movie
It’s the fact that Colleen Hoover treats domestic violence as something to spice up a relationship when in reality it’s actually awful and detrimental. Like, who let her? Also, Blake, gone ahead and keep that closet closed. Matter of fact, just burn it, cause chileeee 😩😭
Watching this after the lawsuit makes it even more messy 😭😭
Lily Blossom Bloom 😭
it’s such a funny name. it’s the type of name you give a my little pony character.
”will you marry me, lilly blossom bloom” gotta be the craziest line in the history of cinema
YESSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEE !!
YAYYY 🩷
Her trying to explain the beauty of flowers to a stranger had me weak. Like what? I almost walked out. 😂
0:10 Nah cuz this is diabolical 😂
My jaw dropped 😭
I heard that Justin wanted to add more DV to the movie and really raise that awareness but Blake and him kept budding heads. He really wasn’t able to do what he was wanting to do with this movie bc of Blake and Ryan I feel like if it was just justin this movie would have been great but She wanted to raise awareness on her split ends by promoting her hair care line more than anything 😐😭
this movie had so much potential n im mad that Blake n Ryan ruined such an impactful movie!! Justin had everyones best interest in mind imo but he got stepped on in every direction even tho he's been wanting to make this movie correctly for YEARSSS
@@denylabrock2751 exactly!
0:22 LMAO WHY IS SHE LIKE THIS 😭
The girl who played Ryle’s brother was actually the Voice Actor for the sheep in zootopia I think
she was yeah
All the characters were too old for the movie
Ryle knew about lily's dad being abusive from day one and still hit her anyways (i was so shook i had to stop reading and get breakfast)
They made that first incident look like an accident but from the book he backhanded her for laughing at him for burning his hands bcoz she was tipsy (not an accident but as a reader it made you question whether it was coz it was so unexpected)
I hated her giggling the outfits suuuuucked and her acting even worse (book lily was amazing, you would have loved her)
They didn't give atlas enough show time
Reading the book would have actually made you fall in love with ryle (book lily was so in love with him that it actually made you as a reader feel shitty for judging people who stay in abusive relationship) making the decision to leave him even harder (the movie made it seem like lily came to that decision so easily but it wasn't)
As a reader, you also fall harder for atlas especially with their backstory and the current one (they left out so much that he did for her after leaving ryle😢 atlas is a sweetheart)
Ryle tries to grape her and headbutts her till she actually loses consciousness... Basically they really downplayed the violence... Book ryle was one scary mofo.... I got chills every time they had to talk
Lastly, I hate how they give villains back stories to justify their actions and don't even try to help them solve their "trauma". without the whole emmerson backstory i would have been okay with how they left ryle's story at but... Giving him that backstory humanizes him and makes it seem like there's hope for him after all and that he can be a better person if he gets therapy or sth (idk)
Okay done ranting
These were all my opinions as well , the book was definitely better at explaining the relationships surrounding lily it upsets me how it was shown during the movie except for the scenes where Ryle hurting her were “accidents” that was great cause we can see it from a victim’s point of view
it’s funny that you said they put some money into this cus blake actually said the budget wasn’t that big
don't remind me of Collen Hoover,it took me so long to recover from the children s3xu4liz4tion,d€4d children and constant mc 4bus3 in EVERY SINGLE BOOK, they were so bad I stopped buying books without reading the reviews,trust me if I tell you she left me traumatized,and she has the guts to call her books "romances", they're absolutely not💀☠️
I look up negative reviews before buying books 😅
@@WhatExcellentBoiledPo-ta-toes no but the problem is many people give her books very high ratings so those ratings on Goodreads are sometimes deceiving🫠
girl 25 seconds 💀💀 i have problems
EARLY GANGGG 🩷
Nah you ate with this commentary. Gabby for Director, Screenwriter and Stylist 2025
THE ARMY LORE RANDOMLY BEING DROPPED IS ALWAYS SO FUNNY HELP
Girlie it's my nineteenth tomorrow and the wayy I'm binging your vids to chill... this is a GIFT! ♡♡♡ thank u boo
Happy early birthday!!!!!!
@@mchjsosde thank you sooo much!!
Omggg happy early birthday!!! 🩷🩷🩷
omg it's my bday tomorrow too!! happy birthday girlyyyy
happy early birthday!! 🤍🤍
the fact justin just carried this moving is sending me, lmao
Girl, this freezy hair was all over my screen, like. it's giving tired. It's giving messy, clamped extensions no oils, no nothing. Just dry, freezing all over the place. Hair like. not even a hair tie could even save it. Not even an up do.
Omg 😭 more Gabi in the military loreee
wake up babe netflix party posted
heyyyy 🩷
6:50 "What an iconic time in history, well not for people that looked like me but you know" HAD ME CACKLING.
8:36 "it's gonna be hard seeing him as an abuser"
*article of where Blake Lively makes claims about Justin Baldoni of sexual harassment...
24:24 Exactlyyy. This is what made me mad while watching this because in the book he pushed her as a result of his anger towards her because she got his hand hurt. But now they swapped the scenes around and it made it seem as though it was just an accident
Which made it less impactful
I agree with that last bit. Although the lack of subtlety and build up might also be bc some abusers just do the horrible stuff one day and it’s like ‘out of the blue’. The problem was that by showcasing Ryle’s anger issues at the start, part of the audience (me!) is already saying NO DONT DO IT to Lily.
I think the vision Justin had for this movie was not portrayed at all and the drama surrounding it just made it worse lol Unfortunatley.
Blake's character gives me Beck from YOU a little bit and I could not be more annoyed 🏃🏽♀️
Colleen Hoover books HEAVILY and I mean HEAVILY romanticize abuse and incest (uncle, brother, father, grandpa, even step family) and I don’t understand why they’re so popular. Maybe people resonate with it? Idk what it is
11:22 "fried and dyed Blake lively hair special" is crazy LOLL
The fact that your version of Blake Lively didn’t yell out “I WANT THE ERAS TOUR TO BE 48 HOURS!” means it was a lacklustre performance. Your Oscar has been put on hold (jk you were brilliant)
You really ATE this up & lmao at you saying it will be hard to articulate and then articulating it better than anyone I’ve seen on this app
Girl you ate with that final commentary I fear
Let’s just remember, the victim is not the issue here. No matter how smart we think we are, it still could be us one day. It’s not their fault, man or woman, a victim is not responsible for being in that situation.
your review has me cryinggggg 😭😭 you articulated everything i felt, def subscribing 🫶🏽
HELPPP NOT THE INTRO BEING SO ACCURATE 😭-
The younger Lily’s actress mimicked Blake’s Lily impeccably
DV was portrayed so poorly in the main character's relationship for a 2h film. There was a lot of backstory which was alright but then when focusing on the "present" relationship it felt rushed and they only showed the physical violence, it didn't feel progressive like real situations.
Your reaction at 30:24 is soo real because where did this story time come from😭😭
This movie sucks for the following reasons
• The actors are way older than the original characters in the book because apparently Colleen meant for them to be older in the books as well but it literally made sense for them to be younger as most of the book gave the vibe that Lily was still trying to find/discover herself and her being way younger than Ryle also made sense because that would make her more gullible to his gaslighting
•That hand burn scene was done horribly. In the book, Ryle doesn't hit Lily as a sort of reflex to burning his hand.. he deliberately hits her because she laughed at him for burning his hand when his work depends on his hands.. and grabbing the pan or whatever that was with bare hands made the scene more unbearable whereas the scene in the book felt more natural because he was grabbing a pot that was on the stove which everyone has done that at least once. I will never understand why they chose to change that while making the movie
•The "if you ever find yourself falling in love again" line was delivered too fast😭 it just didn't feel right
•The acting was so awkward and the lines made everything worse.. who wrote that script??
Overall, this movie barely made sense.. and saying "homeless guy" like he wasn't her first love was diabolical
9:31 girl it wasn't just you, it was all our reactions
Someone gifted me this book for my birthday and I knew nothing going into it. I got about halfway through the book and really didn't like Lily. I didn't like anyone in the book and that was odd for me. I couldn't even place my finger on it I just didn't enjoy it. I finished it because I really just felt like I had to and it didn't get better. I understood what you were saying where it should have focused on Lily and Ryle's relationship, the impact of her relationship with her dad and how that influenced how she relates to others. Because even though they had us rooting for Atlas...he was just as flawed. I don't know....I just yeah.
Omg this is so funny bc my uncle gifted me It Starts With Us (the prequel i think?) for my birthday this past summer 😭 I will not be reading I fear
everyone salivating over that justin guy how does it feel like to be a clown?
i’m ngl though, i feel like the ambiguity of the violence had a point, but probably wasn’t executed well. a lot of the time in abusive relationships, the victims usually pass it off as a mistake, or accident to themselves. but also i defo agree with the other criticism
I think youre right they were trying to put us in the mindset of the victim. The confusion the gaslighting. Its her pov. But they mustn't have done it very well 😅
Yeah the way she said "i slept with homeless guy" left a bad taste in my mouth, just like the romanticisation of abuse done by the author.
32:04 just to clear this up, their brother died when they were all little. The boy at the beginning that he was talking about was just his patient! It reminded him of his brother.
With all due respect, I disagree. It may have reminded him of his brother but it’s classic narcissist behavior to give little white lies in the beginning that add up to a covered truth. I think he lied on purpose in the beginning to get sympathy out of Lily on the roof. Plus, the fact he never told actually happened to his brother makes me believe that he killed his brother on purpose. He’s got psychopathic tendencies and “blacks out” when he gets mad and these things start at a very young age.
@@gloriakoehler3566 Just speaking as someone who’s read both books, he told the truth. That’s why he was so upset on the roof because he had to operate on the little boy who’d been shot by his brother as well. And what he did to his own brother really was an accident. I get the narcissistic traits, but he really did tell the truth in the beginning, he just didn’t fully explain to her the reason why that case was so personal to him. It’s clearer in the books.
Everyone talks about the horrible marketing of the movie (which is valid), but let’s talk about how horrible THE ACTUAL MOVIE, is. Why does it try to incorporate this soft romcom life and then force feed us snippets of her getting hurt? This cannot be real.
If DV was the centre of the story, the movie should’ve taken a very dark undertone and could’ve easily had snippets of happy/intricate moments to show the reality of DV and how incredibly complex it really is. However, knowing that the author herself doesn’t even take the topic seriously, I’m not surprised.
A UK movie called ‘Murdered by my boyfriend’, did this beautifully. In fact, it’s the only movie I think of when it comes to DV. It was done so well, dealing with the dark themes and subtleties of domestic abuse, so much so, that it still has a profound effect on me to this day. And the actors were not nearly as big as Blake Lively or Justin Baldoni.
To see movies like these with some well known names, diminish the realities of DV and dismiss important themes, makes me unnerved and really what a waste of potential and money. Some less known actors could’ve easily taken on this script and incorporated it in a way that was telling to the audience. Just so disappointed honestly.
I understand that it’s a book to movie adaptation so there can be some light mentions, but it’s still no excuse for the overall horrible quality. UGHH this could’ve been huge but I guess it was never gonna work out 😔
Can i add "darlings" an indian movie on Netflix with Alia Bhatt, it was a bit of a dark comedy but it took the parts about the DV quite seriously
Movie isn’t good I get it but abuse is no joke. People have NO understanding the amount of psychological damage it causes even after leaving or while going through it. The fact everyone thinks it’s EASY to just stop or leave when in reality LEAVING Is the most dangerous times for victims!!! And there’s RARELY any consequences for abusers if ever!!!
the lack of nuance in the film was ASTOUNDING. on the topic of the sister, it should NEVERRR be a woman's job to fix a man. ain't no way u proved history repeats itself even tho the movie is supposed to speak AGAINST that...crickets.
I think that’s obvious. He has issues. But any sibling or family member is going to want change to happen, and more so if it means the person they love is in a relationship with a good person. It’s like a way of hope. I think people lack to think critically. No one ever said it’s a woman’s job to fix a man.
She clocked Jenny Slate so FAST with Zootoptia
Wowwww, always a joy to see you post. Also I just started my own TH-cam channel and I just wanted to say your such an inspiration to me from one black girl to another, you really motivate me to keep going. Thank you for everything you do! 💕💕💕
no but I get what you were saying in the beginning regarding big actors, watch someone come up to me and say Zendaya wants to play my dark skin ass like why would I retaliate? free press