I will say that the 309MJ is what I would consider a "muddy" lever. I primarily play on K levers, even on 2D fighters. I started on the 309MJ, hated it, but it matched the mewtwo art I had on my fighting edge. After that I was able to pick up an Etokki Omni with the Taeyung fanta. I also didn't like that because the combination of the loose grommet and the matte bat top just kept spinning out of my hands after about an hour of playing because I get sweaty hands. I then moved to the Fujin V3 and haven't looked back. Granted the low collar mod is insanely expensive, but the lever doesn't spin in my sweaty hands, it has the full collar so you'll need to either get a full collar enclosure or mod one. I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a golden lever that I have fallen in love with so I modded my fujin into a hori fight stick alpha. Just got a step bit from home depot for 5 bucks and it mounted in like a glove.
I'm gonna put a Korean lever in my Fighting Edge soon since Tekken 8 just came out. I absolutely love the Fighting Edge and I think it's a good housing for a Korean lever since it's a little bigger and heavier than a lot of other sticks out there.
The spin it depends on two things the bat top and the bobbin. If you want to try a true k lever experience I recommend the taeyoung fanta. Also for corners and stuff you might be able to fix it with a bigger actuator. Also it can fit most of your case’s except the drone.
This is his opinion after 2 weeks of use and a lifetime of being used to Jap/U.S. designs. Some of the cons he describes are just growing pains from a lifetime of relying on gates. K-levers force you to develop muscle memory and feel, which in turn makes playing on Jap sticks easier. On any stick, a directional input is triggered before you hit the gate which means riding the gate will always mean wasted motion and slower speeds. Anyways, at a certain price point, the build quality for sticks is essentially the same. Besides ease of installation, it's basically a matter of personal preference and you can't develop that without actually trying different sticks. I didn't know that I preferred Seimitsu LS32's over Sanwa JLF's until I took the risk and tried one.
Anyways, if you're curious about other levers, there's no law against owning two. If your only stick is smaller, beginner one, buy a used tournament and mod it. If you own a full sized tourney stick, buy a beginner stick and try a k-lever in that. My 4 sticks all serve different purposes. Just owning a j-lever AND k-lever stick means I'm not stuck using a stick designed for Tekken in Street Fighter.
I still have my Crown 309 MJ NewHelpMe, moved over to my Qanba Carbon Not my prefered lever, but I'm more comfortable on Japanese lever and always will be
They still sell U.S. arcade levers and you can put circular or octagonal gates on Japanese ones. Korean sticks differ because the resistance is gradual instead of on/off.
@@similaritiesendhere to get one of those haap sticks into a Japanese case is a nightmare...plus circle and octagonal gates on Japanese sticks sucks to me ... it just feels weird....the Korean lever is the best and easier option imo
What lever do you have in your qanba drone v1? I'm thinking of putting a Korean lever in it but I'm not sure which one will fit in it since it does not have the most room inside
Man they’re sold out everywhere when Tekken 8 is around the corner!! 😂😂😭😭
well that's to be expected 💀
I will say that the 309MJ is what I would consider a "muddy" lever. I primarily play on K levers, even on 2D fighters. I started on the 309MJ, hated it, but it matched the mewtwo art I had on my fighting edge. After that I was able to pick up an Etokki Omni with the Taeyung fanta. I also didn't like that because the combination of the loose grommet and the matte bat top just kept spinning out of my hands after about an hour of playing because I get sweaty hands. I then moved to the Fujin V3 and haven't looked back. Granted the low collar mod is insanely expensive, but the lever doesn't spin in my sweaty hands, it has the full collar so you'll need to either get a full collar enclosure or mod one. I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a golden lever that I have fallen in love with so I modded my fujin into a hori fight stick alpha. Just got a step bit from home depot for 5 bucks and it mounted in like a glove.
I'm gonna put a Korean lever in my Fighting Edge soon since Tekken 8 just came out. I absolutely love the Fighting Edge and I think it's a good housing for a Korean lever since it's a little bigger and heavier than a lot of other sticks out there.
I had the K lever in my Fighting Edge and it felt like a perfect fit if I was a bigger fan of that style of lever, good choice
The crown 309 mj does fit in the fighting stick alpha
The one I have, yes
The spin it depends on two things the bat top and the bobbin. If you want to try a true k lever experience I recommend the taeyoung fanta. Also for corners and stuff you might be able to fix it with a bigger actuator. Also it can fit most of your case’s except the drone.
Great video! Really needed someone to provide some insight on k-levers, and how they act in game. Guess I'll stay with with japanese ball sticks.
This is his opinion after 2 weeks of use and a lifetime of being used to Jap/U.S. designs.
Some of the cons he describes are just growing pains from a lifetime of relying on gates. K-levers force you to develop muscle memory and feel, which in turn makes playing on Jap sticks easier.
On any stick, a directional input is triggered before you hit the gate which means riding the gate will always mean wasted motion and slower speeds.
Anyways, at a certain price point, the build quality for sticks is essentially the same. Besides ease of installation, it's basically a matter of personal preference and you can't develop that without actually trying different sticks. I didn't know that I preferred Seimitsu LS32's over Sanwa JLF's until I took the risk and tried one.
Anyways, if you're curious about other levers, there's no law against owning two. If your only stick is smaller, beginner one, buy a used tournament and mod it. If you own a full sized tourney stick, buy a beginner stick and try a k-lever in that.
My 4 sticks all serve different purposes. Just owning a j-lever AND k-lever stick means I'm not stuck using a stick designed for Tekken in Street Fighter.
thanks, I'll stick to seimitsu 🥰🤙
I have a Seimitsu LS40Q I absolutely adore
Gunna convert my Hayabusa with the otto v2 and an unorthodox AF octogon gate 😂😂😂👍
To each their own! All I do to Hayabusa levers personally is add a tighter spring (3-5lbs) and a battop and I'm all set
What are your thoughts on K lever now
I still have my Crown 309 MJ NewHelpMe, moved over to my Qanba Carbon
Not my prefered lever, but I'm more comfortable on Japanese lever and always will be
Sanwa or Crown?I am a street fighters player.
Hori
It's the closest thing to an old us style arcade lever
They still sell U.S. arcade levers and you can put circular or octagonal gates on Japanese ones. Korean sticks differ because the resistance is gradual instead of on/off.
@@similaritiesendhere to get one of those haap sticks into a Japanese case is a nightmare...plus circle and octagonal gates on Japanese sticks sucks to me
... it just feels weird....the Korean lever is the best and easier option imo
@@quan_the_don DIY haap cases cost less than $60 and completed units barely cost over $100 (retroarcadecrafts). You didn't look hard enough.
Does this one fit inside a japanese style arcade stick and if not is there one you recommend?
It fits! Had it in my fighting edge, my panthera evo and even my carbon!
What lever do you have in your qanba drone v1? I'm thinking of putting a Korean lever in it but I'm not sure which one will fit in it since it does not have the most room inside
Standard Sanwa Lever, haven't tried a K Lever in there
How?
I've had this lever for a while