@@Mizzraim If it was LCK you're talking about, I'd agree. Worlds is the 2nd biggest tournament in eSports, I'd argue the thing that makes it so great is there is no second chance. That's a lot more pressure than having two lives
Really interesting episode! As a T1 fan, it sucks to see the crazier side of the fan base make the rest look bad. It sucks T1 lost but I'm fine with them losing to GenG in the regular season. All I want is for them to learn from their mistakes and ramp up in time for playoffs. With their talent. synergy and teamwork, I believe, they're more than capable of beating GenG when it matters most.
@@Mizzraim It's pointless arguing to them about that. They'll always hold on to those past achievements, especially when they're as recent as 4 months ago
The way Gen.G exerts pressure is different from the way T1 does it. Gen.G are like Pep's Man City, they play possession football, 15-16 passes, boring for your average viewer, boom, they win. T1 are like Klopp's Liverpool, absolutely electric wins, but when they lose, my God, they get walloped. That's why so many more people like T1/Liverpool, they play fantastic football/League and are so dominant when they win, you can't help but think what you're saying
Glad to see Gen G stomp. As a massive fan i actually didnt give that much credit to them on the first win at the beginning of the season. I care more about consistency, how you win/why you lost more than a few good games. Im excited for Playoffs but i dont think SKT is and underdog. I think they drafted weird and lost. Also id be fine if Gen G lost. Tbh the main thing im worried about is them trying to strong-arm other teams 24/7. LPL wont roll over as easy, and if they get behind can the come back? SKT can get away with that strat using Zeus but only because their other 2 lanes are usually very disciplined. Im not positive how well Canyon and Peys/Lehends will do if getting out paced (I dont think Chovy or Kiin have to worry about that. Ive always seen them both as top players in the world)
I have more faith in Canyon and Peyz than in Chovy and Kiin. I will actually go as far as to say that this year, is Chovy's FINAL chance. If he doesn't win, he legitimately might never do it. I also think the reason SKT does so well against the LPL is also the reason why they keep on playing like shit against Gen.G - mental. They're in the heads of the LPL as much as Gen.G are in theirs
@@nathanhosea489 I disagree with you completely there bro. Idk how long you've been watching league, but his final year to win?? You know how long Scout was considered the most likely to win? Deft? Imp? Many others? With the way Chovy understand the actual lane, he's not out till he retires. I mean if you still consider Faker having a chance, Chovy MUST have a chance. This also would not be the strongest team to not win Worlds and if DRX can win, anyone can lol. I do think you are right about Skt and the LPL tho. That or their coaching just does a better job of adapting. Faker and whoever he is with, have always looked scary the more time they have.
@@Shingeki__ Honestly a very fair point about Chovy, I just don't have that much faith in him anymore because the last two years have been such monumental chokes to teams he shouldn't have lost to, it's just hard to believe in the guy anymore.
I'm not surprised by fans being that zealous because they are extremely protective of anything they support: esports, kpop, etc. I'm still sorry that ppl get treated that like cause it's not an excuse to be a shitty person. I'm a T1 fan (lol Monte) but I'm not offended. The first game was horrendous drafting and the second they had a chance to come back. I wish they put Keria on something more proactive but oh well. This loss will definitely motivate them to do better and humble them a bit. Thanks for the great episode!
An interesting note... T1 is 37-3 in games after their most recent GenG losses including a Worlds win. They almost seem like they need to get bopped by them in order to really focus up and improve.
It's funny how one series loss can change a thought pattern. Yes, we saw T1 get stomped but it's the first time this year, yes they had a loss first match of the series but that didn't count for much and it was 2-1 I get that but to throw a complete bad day in the works I mean even I am what the hell still. Were they trying something to see if it would work who knows but they definitely weren't T1. So you get this niggling feeling that they holding on to something I know they want to win more trophies, they're already in the play offs so who cares if they win or lose that series, when there is still the final which is their main goal as they all said. They looked defeated so they should be but not too phased too be honest but obviously not as phased as half of the T1 fans and haters hahaha. T1 still got it but they won't show it till it matters, and if they don't then that's fair means, they need to get better for msi, summer, and world's.
@nathanhosea489 bro wtf are you talking about. You don't have any clue what disrespect means in this context. Keria knowing they're much better than the opponent and picking Ezreal support is entirely disrespectful, because it's just born out of arrogance. Ezreal support would never happen against GenG or another elite team because it's obviously a troll pick that would lose them a game. Stomping a team completely would be showing them total respect because you are not fooling around with stupid picks that aren't actually viable at the top level.
@@roachdoggjr4648 Then what would happen if you play the same way, week in week out, stomping everyone? Yeah, you would burn out, which ironically is already happening to T1 right now as they're legitimately playing worse and worse. What would have happened had they not coasted? They probably would have burned out earlier than they did
@@nathanhosea489 you're making a shit ton of assumptions, but nobody is playing troll picks because they're burned out. That makes no sense whatsoever.
@@fourball5542 right! but you'd think this is the game they prepared for all year - or at least they'd try something to learn if they can play that but Keria nami was actually so strange (and just bad) with its ults that I'm still not sure if they can make it work into GenG bot - talyah into chovy ahri doesnt work and blinding Jayce is a bad idea is maybe the only real takeaway from the series..they neither had a good draft prepared nor did they play their matchups well..just some tomfoolery all around
@@johnkirk1772taliyah into Ahri kalista does in fact work. T1 drafted Poppy + Taliyah into Kalista Ahri Rell. That’s an insanely good draft that checkmated GenG, they just got outplayed in every fight.
I remember getting called a Gen G fanboy because of discussing the potential of Gen G earlier in the season and I also said that calling T1 the best team in the LCK is too premature early in the season lol. I was expecting T1 to do fuck all in regular season and just slide to play offs and while I'll still say that T1 are a favorite to win the LCK, I did say that I can't call T1 the best LCK team until their performance is clearly above the rest of the field. With the way they lost, that statement will stay true until T1 actually wins LCK. For the most part, my LCK rank prediction has aged quite well nonetheless. I generally root for T1, but Chovy does seem long overdue for an international title. HLE, DK, and KT being 3rd 4th and 5th while a good prediction so far is sadly making me question the power level of the LCK this year lol. I'll still keep my reservations for play offs. But to avoid the narratives, just keep on watching until it's over.
@@MrDespisedIcon I can 100% agree that Gen G's international performance will always be taken with a grain of salt. Especially Chovy in particular. As far as Western fans of the LCK are concerned, I think Canyon is the player that people will feel bad for if the Gen G curse continues. That being said, LCK is looking like shit this season and no outside team contesting Gen G will make LCK look worse. I can definitely see the Gen G choking narrative be far more likely if the rest of the LCK can't consistently be a threat to them. I would even say that Gen G gets to prep for T1 for free because the other teams get skill/macro checked by Gen G. It's that bad.
People keep acting like Lucian Nami is terrible, GENG destroyed HLE with Lucian Nami in back to back games the same week, equally T1 beat GENG with Lucian Nami in week 1 and to go even further T1 were undefeated on Lucian Nami until this week. Peyz and Lehends were simply better than Guma and Keria
its not bad - what frustrates people with T1 is that whenever they face GenG, they tend to play something, get destroyed and then they run it back instead of switching it up - pure ego in the review room: 'ah we misplayed, run it back we can play' - no, you can't...they got 0 kills that game 1 and decided to run it back cause surely they just misplayed...any other team you'd scream at them no? T1 just can't accept when a team is better than them on something and will just play stage like a scrim 'run it back til you figure it out' type of shit
I dont understand what t1 was doing. They wait until this game to change their playstyle. These picks were first picks for the year for solo lanes. The ad carry and traditional support style isnt t1 style. They looked like a completely different team a f gen g punished every mistake. T1 looked like 2023 msi t1. They looked lost. It was horrible.
It's a strategy shift gone wrong. No more, no less. That shift was caused by Gen.G being completely in their heads. Now they know what to do, and if they don't, disappointing
100% agree with you. They literally have 9 other teams to experiment with. Seems very intentional that they chose to play those champs vs GenG. T1 probably doesn't care they lost, but fans are the losers to keep seeing this one sided affair.
@@nc_aravindan i know worlds is more important than LCK, but at some point they need to stop "not caring" about losing to geng in LCK, like since 2022 every time they lose against geng in the lck, people say its just testing and that playoffs matter, and they still lose
@@nc_aravindanhow is Taliyah mid with Lucian Nami bot “experimenting” or weird for T1. They literally played all those picks a lot this split. If anything their only creative pick, Tristana top, was the only bright spot this series.
@@snorter9783 Taliyah mid isn't, Faker just got hardgapped, but LeBlanc with Jayce AND first pick Lucian certainly is. The last time they played first pick Lucian was in Week 3. Now I'm not making excuses, their level of play was far below what we've seen from them and they would have lost no matter what. But their picks...were off. Very off. No Aatrox, no Tahm Kench, no Hwei, letting go of Rell both games when it's one of Oner's best champions, no Smolder when Guma hadwon games on it and Gen.G were picking Aphelios, not banning Kalista. Gen.G are in their heads and have been and it shows
T1 draft game one was weird I agree, but they’d still probably get stomped regardless after They were just outclassed hard by GEN and it’s okay to admit it
@@Lilmajudi didnt say otherwise lol Canyon imposed his rythm, Oner didnt do much since there was all done already, first game draft didnt help when that Ksante was already fed sooo early, they had no dmg to take down that, Lucian is not that good dmg dealer as how it used to be.
Also to Answer your question Monte, T1 is the best team because they've won Worlds. Thats it. Thats the argument. Regular season DOESNT MATTER lmao. It DID matter when SKT was winning titles and going undefeated, but the moment they lose a game? Regular season doesnt matter. Lose in playoffs? Domestic titles don't matter. Lose at MSI? MSI doesnt matter AND Skt werent taking it seriously. Lose at Worlds? W/e they won in the past 4 times. All you gotta do is win worlds once and you are the best forever and if you never win Worlds you were NEVER a good player lmao
this the dumbest shit ever, not winning a title doesnt make you shit automatically (an example is khan, madlife), to say spring/ summer doesnt matter lmfaooo i remember when t1 fans almost killed daeny when he said that cuz its obviously NOT TRUE every competition matters and to win lck which is one of the most (not to say the most) difficult and competetive leagues ever that just a few orgs. can achieve,,
@@MrDespisedIcon Heres one now lol. Hey I'm just gonna let you know that League is the only "sport" where a teams/players value is only defined by a SINGLE TOURNAMENT. It's nonsense kid. Domestic titles do matter. All titles matter. I agree obviously Worlds matters most but it doesn't make everything else irrelevant. But hey you Skt fangirls can believe what you want. Facts be damned right?
They can't beat them because Gen.G have been the better team. Gen.G have choked out of their minds at international tournaments. That's the only reason anyone still thinks this version of T1 is a better team than what Gen.G has put together the last few years
not sure why you focused so much on toplane for the T1 GenG series. Imo Faker was the biggest offender this series, he just lost lane too hard each time. First he goes even vs a Corki and then he actually loses mega hard in a counter matchup btw to the point where Chovy can basically live in bot and still be even in CS while Faker is always pushed in under turret
I think its because zeus and kiin are fighting it out for best in there role and zeus looked mortal vs kiin. Before this, he was looking like prime faker. Unfortunately for mid lane Chovy is the clear Faker is probably fist fighting with showmaker and bdd for second best mid in the lck.
I can tell u why atleast i think T1 is the best or one of the top 3 in the world currently. - Sure they lost to Gen.G so domesticly i'd obv rank them #2 because of how good Gen.G's coaching staff and Chovy are against preparing specifikly for T1. (Which i also belive is something Gen.G alone is able to do because they are so confident that every other team is a easy victory whilst the other teams gotta prepare equally for every team since no one match is 100% for them) - T1 unless they face Gen.G in a elimination game will be the better team internationally thats just the case and since Gen.G is the biggest international frauds in the world every year that is very likely to be the case. - T1 has never lost to a LPL team at worlds in a elimination game ever so their track record simply suggests their #1 if my 2nd point stands. For some reason T1 isn't able to beat Gen.G mentally or physically , i think alot of it comes down to Chovy in general and their coaching staff simply knowing exactly how to prepare and play against them but this isn't the case against the chineese teams but seems to be the oposite for T1 against international competition.
Bro, no one cares about LPL. Specially this year that they don’t have a super team like JDG2023. GenG might be the first team to accomplish the golden road with this stacked roster
@@brittanyk9272 BLG is strong but they don’t have the same vibe as JDG2023. BLG is winning from hands diff, not impressed with their macro. I think that TES might be the best LPL team this year. We will see at MSI
GenG is such a whack team, they destroy T1 in the local split and then suck so much ahh in the internationals, zero confidence that this team would be a competitor for msi this year
But Monte why do you think T1 fans thinks like that? isnt it GenG fans according to what you say? well not like theres to many GenG fans is more like T1 Haters with this of the power ranking bs you said? hahaha.
I'm not going to lie he looks good but if Faker would just play how he was playing they would still be fighting it out for 1st place POG haha so I'm sure Faker will get back up :)
@@nathanhosea489 it's enough for me to say it once. T1 fans need to be absolutely delusional not to understand Faker mechanically is much worse than he used to be. It doesn't matter if you're a professional football/basketball/hockey/ esports player you will not be able to play on the same level your whole career. As you age you get worse and worse in therms of your physical condition
GenG looking as the best team from Korea coming into an international tournament, with T1 as the clear second... why does this sound so familiar??
Ya and they fail again. T1 went farther at BOTH MSI and Worlds.
This time gen g is legit trust@@brittanyk9272
@@MrDespisedIcon and t1 fans acting like winning one tournament with shit format makes them the undisputed best team for next year
@@Mizzraim If it was LCK you're talking about, I'd agree. Worlds is the 2nd biggest tournament in eSports, I'd argue the thing that makes it so great is there is no second chance. That's a lot more pressure than having two lives
Really interesting episode! As a T1 fan, it sucks to see the crazier side of the fan base make the rest look bad.
It sucks T1 lost but I'm fine with them losing to GenG in the regular season.
All I want is for them to learn from their mistakes and ramp up in time for playoffs. With their talent. synergy and teamwork, I believe, they're more than capable of beating GenG when it matters most.
@@MrDespisedIcon This might be hard for you to understand, but org's past achievements don't matter as much to everyone else as they do to you.
@@Mizzraim It's pointless arguing to them about that. They'll always hold on to those past achievements, especially when they're as recent as 4 months ago
@@MrDespisedIcon Man I didn't know Zeus, Oner, Guma and Keria won 4 world championships! Delusional.
As much as GenG stomped T1 the Lucian Nami focus was really wierd to see.
Thanks for the episode gentlemen! Always enjoy this podcast
Its always *BORING* when GenG wins but T1 is the best team in the world etc when T1 wins lol
The way Gen.G exerts pressure is different from the way T1 does it. Gen.G are like Pep's Man City, they play possession football, 15-16 passes, boring for your average viewer, boom, they win. T1 are like Klopp's Liverpool, absolutely electric wins, but when they lose, my God, they get walloped. That's why so many more people like T1/Liverpool, they play fantastic football/League and are so dominant when they win, you can't help but think what you're saying
Exactly
Glad to see Gen G stomp. As a massive fan i actually didnt give that much credit to them on the first win at the beginning of the season. I care more about consistency, how you win/why you lost more than a few good games. Im excited for Playoffs but i dont think SKT is and underdog. I think they drafted weird and lost. Also id be fine if Gen G lost. Tbh the main thing im worried about is them trying to strong-arm other teams 24/7. LPL wont roll over as easy, and if they get behind can the come back? SKT can get away with that strat using Zeus but only because their other 2 lanes are usually very disciplined. Im not positive how well Canyon and Peys/Lehends will do if getting out paced (I dont think Chovy or Kiin have to worry about that. Ive always seen them both as top players in the world)
I have more faith in Canyon and Peyz than in Chovy and Kiin. I will actually go as far as to say that this year, is Chovy's FINAL chance. If he doesn't win, he legitimately might never do it. I also think the reason SKT does so well against the LPL is also the reason why they keep on playing like shit against Gen.G - mental. They're in the heads of the LPL as much as Gen.G are in theirs
@@nathanhosea489 I disagree with you completely there bro. Idk how long you've been watching league, but his final year to win?? You know how long Scout was considered the most likely to win? Deft? Imp? Many others? With the way Chovy understand the actual lane, he's not out till he retires. I mean if you still consider Faker having a chance, Chovy MUST have a chance. This also would not be the strongest team to not win Worlds and if DRX can win, anyone can lol. I do think you are right about Skt and the LPL tho. That or their coaching just does a better job of adapting. Faker and whoever he is with, have always looked scary the more time they have.
@@Shingeki__ Honestly a very fair point about Chovy, I just don't have that much faith in him anymore because the last two years have been such monumental chokes to teams he shouldn't have lost to, it's just hard to believe in the guy anymore.
I'm not surprised by fans being that zealous because they are extremely protective of anything they support: esports, kpop, etc. I'm still sorry that ppl get treated that like cause it's not an excuse to be a shitty person. I'm a T1 fan (lol Monte) but I'm not offended. The first game was horrendous drafting and the second they had a chance to come back. I wish they put Keria on something more proactive but oh well. This loss will definitely motivate them to do better and humble them a bit. Thanks for the great episode!
An interesting note... T1 is 37-3 in games after their most recent GenG losses including a Worlds win. They almost seem like they need to get bopped by them in order to really focus up and improve.
The function of that team is to humanize T1. If they constantly won LCK, they'd be looked at as gods
37-3? How exactly are they 37-3? Doesn't sound right to ne
@@wootie118 They were 12-1 at Worlds only losing a game to JDG, and they are 25-2 in Spring (27-2 now after the DK series). That adds up to 37-3.
Wolf said last time that he thought T1 was better but now he always believed that Gen.G would win? Classic Wolf!
It's funny how one series loss can change a thought pattern. Yes, we saw T1 get stomped but it's the first time this year, yes they had a loss first match of the series but that didn't count for much and it was 2-1 I get that but to throw a complete bad day in the works I mean even I am what the hell still. Were they trying something to see if it would work who knows but they definitely weren't T1. So you get this niggling feeling that they holding on to something I know they want to win more trophies, they're already in the play offs so who cares if they win or lose that series, when there is still the final which is their main goal as they all said. They looked defeated so they should be but not too phased too be honest but obviously not as phased as half of the T1 fans and haters hahaha. T1 still got it but they won't show it till it matters, and if they don't then that's fair means, they need to get better for msi, summer, and world's.
@rachelheke5737 it's geng golden road, it's over for t1. This is the biggest defeat t1 has faced in years, it's emperor chovy's time.
@@ronlanders7354 Gen.G in international tournaments kekw
@@ronlanders7354 lol it’s not.
GEN Golden road ? So funny bro 🤣🤦@@ronlanders7354
It was so cathartic watching t1 get stomped after being so disrespectful to weaker teams, esp kerias picks!
Only idiots would say T1 were being disrespectful. Stomping teams week in week out in 20 minutes, that would be disrespectful
@nathanhosea489 bro wtf are you talking about. You don't have any clue what disrespect means in this context. Keria knowing they're much better than the opponent and picking Ezreal support is entirely disrespectful, because it's just born out of arrogance. Ezreal support would never happen against GenG or another elite team because it's obviously a troll pick that would lose them a game. Stomping a team completely would be showing them total respect because you are not fooling around with stupid picks that aren't actually viable at the top level.
@@roachdoggjr4648 Then what would happen if you play the same way, week in week out, stomping everyone? Yeah, you would burn out, which ironically is already happening to T1 right now as they're legitimately playing worse and worse. What would have happened had they not coasted? They probably would have burned out earlier than they did
@@roachdoggjr4648 Gen.G and HLE will probably make MSI instead of them
@@nathanhosea489 you're making a shit ton of assumptions, but nobody is playing troll picks because they're burned out. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Gen G -> golden road 👀
It certainly can happen. Maybe this is the year Chovy finally exorcises his demons
Not on LPL watch 🎉🎉
kiin at internationals i aren’t think that
Not gonna happen
@@MrDespisedIcon truer words haven’t been spoken.
The t1 vs gen gee was weird. It look like t1 didn't want to show anything. Super weird to say the least. Maybe there saving there picks for finals.
Saving picks won't matter as the finals will be played on a different patch.
@@fourball5542 right! but you'd think this is the game they prepared for all year - or at least they'd try something to learn if they can play that
but Keria nami was actually so strange (and just bad) with its ults that I'm still not sure if they can make it work into GenG bot - talyah into chovy ahri doesnt work and blinding Jayce is a bad idea is maybe the only real takeaway from the series..they neither had a good draft prepared nor did they play their matchups well..just some tomfoolery all around
@@johnkirk1772taliyah into Ahri kalista does in fact work. T1 drafted Poppy + Taliyah into Kalista Ahri Rell. That’s an insanely good draft that checkmated GenG, they just got outplayed in every fight.
@@snorter9783 I meant that taliyah into ahri doesn't work for T1 into GenG - that's what they learned, faker taliyah just isn't it sadly
feelt so robbed on the T1-Gen G game dat game was so underwhelming
I remember getting called a Gen G fanboy because of discussing the potential of Gen G earlier in the season and I also said that calling T1 the best team in the LCK is too premature early in the season lol. I was expecting T1 to do fuck all in regular season and just slide to play offs and while I'll still say that T1 are a favorite to win the LCK, I did say that I can't call T1 the best LCK team until their performance is clearly above the rest of the field. With the way they lost, that statement will stay true until T1 actually wins LCK. For the most part, my LCK rank prediction has aged quite well nonetheless. I generally root for T1, but Chovy does seem long overdue for an international title. HLE, DK, and KT being 3rd 4th and 5th while a good prediction so far is sadly making me question the power level of the LCK this year lol. I'll still keep my reservations for play offs. But to avoid the narratives, just keep on watching until it's over.
@@MrDespisedIcon I can 100% agree that Gen G's international performance will always be taken with a grain of salt. Especially Chovy in particular. As far as Western fans of the LCK are concerned, I think Canyon is the player that people will feel bad for if the Gen G curse continues.
That being said, LCK is looking like shit this season and no outside team contesting Gen G will make LCK look worse. I can definitely see the Gen G choking narrative be far more likely if the rest of the LCK can't consistently be a threat to them. I would even say that Gen G gets to prep for T1 for free because the other teams get skill/macro checked by Gen G. It's that bad.
People keep acting like Lucian Nami is terrible, GENG destroyed HLE with Lucian Nami in back to back games the same week, equally T1 beat GENG with Lucian Nami in week 1 and to go even further T1 were undefeated on Lucian Nami until this week. Peyz and Lehends were simply better than Guma and Keria
its not bad - what frustrates people with T1 is that whenever they face GenG, they tend to play something, get destroyed and then they run it back instead of switching it up - pure ego in the review room: 'ah we misplayed, run it back we can play' - no, you can't...they got 0 kills that game 1 and decided to run it back cause surely they just misplayed...any other team you'd scream at them no? T1 just can't accept when a team is better than them on something and will just play stage like a scrim 'run it back til you figure it out' type of shit
I dont understand what t1 was doing. They wait until this game to change their playstyle. These picks were first picks for the year for solo lanes. The ad carry and traditional support style isnt t1 style. They looked like a completely different team a f gen g punished every mistake. T1 looked like 2023 msi t1. They looked lost. It was horrible.
It's a strategy shift gone wrong. No more, no less. That shift was caused by Gen.G being completely in their heads. Now they know what to do, and if they don't, disappointing
100% agree with you. They literally have 9 other teams to experiment with. Seems very intentional that they chose to play those champs vs GenG. T1 probably doesn't care they lost, but fans are the losers to keep seeing this one sided affair.
@@nc_aravindan i know worlds is more important than LCK, but at some point they need to stop "not caring" about losing to geng in LCK, like since 2022 every time they lose against geng in the lck, people say its just testing and that playoffs matter, and they still lose
@@nc_aravindanhow is Taliyah mid with Lucian Nami bot “experimenting” or weird for T1. They literally played all those picks a lot this split. If anything their only creative pick, Tristana top, was the only bright spot this series.
@@snorter9783 Taliyah mid isn't, Faker just got hardgapped, but LeBlanc with Jayce AND first pick Lucian certainly is. The last time they played first pick Lucian was in Week 3. Now I'm not making excuses, their level of play was far below what we've seen from them and they would have lost no matter what. But their picks...were off. Very off. No Aatrox, no Tahm Kench, no Hwei, letting go of Rell both games when it's one of Oner's best champions, no Smolder when Guma hadwon games on it and Gen.G were picking Aphelios, not banning Kalista. Gen.G are in their heads and have been and it shows
damn Wolf prolly a T1 delulu fan.. how he dares to say it was draft gap!! excuses!! - T1 Hater 2024
tbf the stomp really was because of draft gap, but gen.g would've still won without the draft gap
@@hanbyeol12 yes, is just not a fun match when they draft like that.
T1 draft game one was weird I agree, but they’d still probably get stomped regardless after
They were just outclassed hard by GEN and it’s okay to admit it
@@Lilmajudi didnt say otherwise lol Canyon imposed his rythm, Oner didnt do much since there was all done already, first game draft didnt help when that Ksante was already fed sooo early, they had no dmg to take down that, Lucian is not that good dmg dealer as how it used to be.
Also to Answer your question Monte, T1 is the best team because they've won Worlds. Thats it. Thats the argument. Regular season DOESNT MATTER lmao. It DID matter when SKT was winning titles and going undefeated, but the moment they lose a game? Regular season doesnt matter. Lose in playoffs? Domestic titles don't matter. Lose at MSI? MSI doesnt matter AND Skt werent taking it seriously. Lose at Worlds? W/e they won in the past 4 times. All you gotta do is win worlds once and you are the best forever and if you never win Worlds you were NEVER a good player lmao
this the dumbest shit ever, not winning a title doesnt make you shit automatically (an example is khan, madlife), to say spring/ summer doesnt matter lmfaooo i remember when t1 fans almost killed daeny when he said that cuz its obviously NOT TRUE every competition matters and to win lck which is one of the most (not to say the most) difficult and competetive leagues ever that just a few orgs. can achieve,,
@@MrDespisedIcon Heres one now lol. Hey I'm just gonna let you know that League is the only "sport" where a teams/players value is only defined by a SINGLE TOURNAMENT. It's nonsense kid. Domestic titles do matter. All titles matter. I agree obviously Worlds matters most but it doesn't make everything else irrelevant. But hey you Skt fangirls can believe what you want. Facts be damned right?
T1 just can't defeat GenG likr when BLG can't defeat JDG. They just have a mental edge against them. Its ridiculous
BLG beat JDG last week.
@@ftu2021 what I meant was the 2 years. Not this year because obviously they have a better line up this year than JDG.
@@Prince_mt12no shame losing to the super team that could accomplish the golden road.
They can't beat them because Gen.G have been the better team.
Gen.G have choked out of their minds at international tournaments. That's the only reason anyone still thinks this version of T1 is a better team than what Gen.G has put together the last few years
It’s because Chovy has Faker completely figured out. It’s exactly like Knight Vs Yagao last year.
not sure why you focused so much on toplane for the T1 GenG series. Imo Faker was the biggest offender this series, he just lost lane too hard each time. First he goes even vs a Corki and then he actually loses mega hard in a counter matchup btw to the point where Chovy can basically live in bot and still be even in CS while Faker is always pushed in under turret
I think its because zeus and kiin are fighting it out for best in there role and zeus looked mortal vs kiin. Before this, he was looking like prime faker. Unfortunately for mid lane Chovy is the clear Faker is probably fist fighting with showmaker and bdd for second best mid in the lck.
@@codycarroll5866 ok but that's an entirely different conversation, they were clearly discussing it in the context of how the teams operate as a whole
I can tell u why atleast i think T1 is the best or one of the top 3 in the world currently.
- Sure they lost to Gen.G so domesticly i'd obv rank them #2 because of how good Gen.G's coaching staff and Chovy are against preparing specifikly for T1. (Which i also belive is something Gen.G alone is able to do because they are so confident that every other team is a easy victory whilst the other teams gotta prepare equally for every team since no one match is 100% for them)
- T1 unless they face Gen.G in a elimination game will be the better team internationally thats just the case and since Gen.G is the biggest international frauds in the world every year that is very likely to be the case.
- T1 has never lost to a LPL team at worlds in a elimination game ever so their track record simply suggests their #1 if my 2nd point stands.
For some reason T1 isn't able to beat Gen.G mentally or physically , i think alot of it comes down to Chovy in general and their coaching staff simply knowing exactly how to prepare and play against them but this isn't the case against the chineese teams but seems to be the oposite for T1 against international competition.
Bro, no one cares about LPL. Specially this year that they don’t have a super team like JDG2023. GenG might be the first team to accomplish the golden road with this stacked roster
@@ftu2021 it’s doubtful. Just cause they beat T1 doesn’t mean they can beat the lol. BLG is strong.
@@brittanyk9272 BLG is strong but they don’t have the same vibe as JDG2023. BLG is winning from hands diff, not impressed with their macro. I think that TES might be the best LPL team this year. We will see at MSI
@@ftu2021 yes and when gen h doesn’t win, we’ll of known I was right.
@@ftu2021 T1 won’t win against BLG or TES if their bot can’t beat Peyz Lehends.
GenG are Korea’s hope this year.
GenG is such a whack team, they destroy T1 in the local split and then suck so much ahh in the internationals, zero confidence that this team would be a competitor for msi this year
Echo chamber
new team ? maybe ? or u just care about the org not the roster ?
@@rayanfahad5673they shit the bed at worlds 22 when Ruler, the arguable ADC goat, was on that roster, so idk what to tell you
@@ajca711 they had peanut there lmfao, give peanut to faker lets see if he can win with him
@@alwayscrying7034 2017 catDespair
But Monte why do you think T1 fans thinks like that? isnt it GenG fans according to what you say? well not like theres to many GenG fans is more like T1 Haters with this of the power ranking bs you said? hahaha.
LPL NO.1
ye brother maybe this year
TSM "AFK Mid" Choke'vy fans are back out of there cave lol
I'm not going to lie he looks good but if Faker would just play how he was playing they would still be fighting it out for 1st place POG haha so I'm sure Faker will get back up :)
@@rachelheke5737 One guy chases a Goat the other chases Titles. Hence why Chovy chokes at Worlds. He already won His Championship... Beating Faker lol
@@rachelheke5737 his wrists are fried, it's not a young faker anymore, he will keep strunggling more and more as he ages
@@hateprigovor I think you're going to be saying this a lot in the near future lol
@@nathanhosea489 it's enough for me to say it once. T1 fans need to be absolutely delusional not to understand Faker mechanically is much worse than he used to be. It doesn't matter if you're a professional football/basketball/hockey/ esports player you will not be able to play on the same level your whole career. As you age you get worse and worse in therms of your physical condition