Ben Johnson VS Carl Lewis
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- www.adriansprin... . Ben Johnson clocked a time of 9.83s to bagged a gold medal while Lewis in 2nd place. However a few years later, Ben announced that he taken an enhancer during his carrear from 1984. Finally, Lewis was declared as a World Champion.
Greatest 100 m ever for me. Still get the chills looking at this.
ME TOO!! STILL MY FAVORITE
You do realize they’re both heavily juiced. Cheaters cannot be considered greats.
@@stewiegriffin2985 every top athletes on the gear fool
agree more so than 9.79 b/c the race was over once it started
@@Scientists_dont_liethey were cheating Einstein that's why they were so fast
Not sure which race I love more, this one or the Olympic final. Ben was the man. I hate what they did to him.
Still legendary. Every athlete used something. He was the best. period
BlaccAmerican Just because Ben has more muscle than Carl doesn't mean he is on more stuff. If u watch Carl lift, he lifted with less weight and focused on velocity and endurance for 200m and 100. Ben on the other hand was purely 100m. He lifted 400 pounds without focusing on velocity, just brute strength.
I get chills every time I hear Charlie Jones call this race. Excellent job of capturing the emotion for this race that had building up for years.
I was hyped that day, what can I say?
@@charlesdjones1most of them were cheating if you cannot compete fairly and cleanly then get to fuck out of sport
Dope or no dope, Benroid had the best start of all time.
+Paul Johnson LOL! The only reason he had the "best start" is BECAUSE of doping.
+429kostas LOL!! Spoken like a true moron. Hard to argue with your ironclad reasoning. LOL!!
Cr Yo ok .I usually don't speak with goats seriously
+429kostas Yes, dumb sheep usually don't.
Was or wasn't everyone in Seoul (100m)doped ah idiot?
Performance enhancing drugs or not, Ben Johnson left Carl Lewis in the dust. It was glorious! Worth it to see the look on Lewis' face.
+Jessica Boone Performance enhancing or not, I could dust Lewis if I used the performance of a motorcycle. You're a moron for totally missing the point.
you're a moron for not realizing lewis was on it too
***** exactly
Incredible show of speed & skill.
Bravo Ben Jonson
Lol
The way Ben got out of the blocks. He was already ahead by the 10 m mark accelerating with each footfall. Truly a great race to watch as it happened all those years ago. I felt for Ben as well we all know what transpired when Ben ran at the finals of the Olympics in South Korea. 💪🏼🙏🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
Thomas Gumersell
Nothing transpired within a few days of this race cos this wasn't the Seoul Olympics
@@Paul-fm3cf thank you I made an error. I have since rectified it as I did know it was at the South Korea Olympics. At the finals of the 100 meters. That would be Ben's final competitive race. 💪🏼🙏🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
@Thomas Gumersell he was actually at the next Olympics in Barcelona too
"In 2003, Dr. Wade Exum, the United States Olympic Committee's director of drug control administration from 1991 to 2000, gave copies of documents to Sports Illustrated which revealed that some 100 American athletes who failed drug tests and should have been prevented from competing in the Olympics were nevertheless cleared to compete. Among those athletes was Lewis."
Facts. Facts that have been conveniently swept under the rug.
Amazing start by Ben. Explosive
He was on drugs at the time.
@@adismell everyone was
That start is amazing.
Are u saying steroids are amazing?
Sami Hijazi even on steroids you wouldn’t be able to come close to an Olympic sprinter you obese bastard
Best I've ever seen
Jump start actually
Carl flunked a drug test at the Olympic Trials prior to the 1988 Olympics along with 14 other American athletes. They have since found out that 6 of the 8 runners in the final had taken banned substances. The only difference, Ben was caught.
More accurately, Ben’s failed test was not covered up.
Nor was Christies, they looked into it and deemed the evidence valid and he kept his result of silver
Very few weren't at it in those days, even years before it, the East Germans in particular during the 70's. Whenever big money came into athletics the desire for it was all the incentive athletes needed to use performance enhancing drugs aided and abetted by coaches.
Actually Carl had taken a banned stimulant that maybe legal now. It was not a steroid which Ofcourse is still banned!
@@edwardwood3622 Precisely!
Lewis was the first to congratulate Johnson after the race in Seoul 1988. So much for that...
Explosiveness start such detonation of power since the very beginning
Ben Johnson would of never been forgotten. Remember it took Maurice Greene to tie Johnson 9.79 world record, 11 years later and it took 17 years until Asafa Powell went pass the 9.79. That world record would of been immortalized and held in the same regard as Bob Beamon long jump world record as one of the greatest feats.
Yea it's too bad
Yeah apart from the cheating bit.
@@chalkandcheese1868All sprinters are juiced up.
Ben Johnson made that record using steroids😂(although carl and others were also dirty)
@@Believer382 What's your point son? If you want a juice free race then be prepared to wtach a bunch of dudes running 10.2.
I'm american and I actually agree with your comment. People like to use Ben Johnson and Steve Mullings as "proof" that jamaicans are cheaters. When neither one of them trained in Jamaica. But they don't like to consider sprinters like Donovan Bailey or Sanya Richards Jamaican. I am 100% CERTAIN that if Bolt were American they wouldn't be so quick to call him a drug cheat.
Still think this was the best rivalry for men's sprints to this day. You were either team Ben or team Carl. Was in team Carl's camp.
GOOD LORD....This is the best start i ever seen in my entire fuckin life. That 9.84 look more like 9.74 from tha way that start look..
HE WAS MOVIN.
feet was a BLUR
1:20 lewis makes it look like he congratulates him but he really says "you false started". salty carla
Lewis couldn't Fuck with Johnson, extremely jealous of him
Carl Lewis is the biggest lier and cheat in track history. Even with the positive test in Korea I still have more respect for Ben than I ever will for Carl
big ben, is the man of the wolds best sprinter ever born
They both used stuff. Ben got hanged for it carl got off with it
The whole ben johnson situation is one of the biggest bullshits in all of sports. Did lewis ever test positive before or after this race? I think we all know this answer
Gametime Fitness
Yes before AND after
hardlife1 agree-Yanks had the cash and the "pull" to get Lewis's positives from LA thrown out...
Andrew K No, Lewis did not test positive before or after this. Lewis never tested positive for PEDs. He tested positive for minuscule amounts of stimulants that were not at all performance enhancing, as well as being ingested inadvertently via a cold medicine remedy. He was investigated by all the authorities and was never convicted with any doping offence. Get your facts straight! Ben was the man using PEDs. Anabolic steroids. This explains his dramatic time gains during the mid to late 80s.
+Bren Walsh yeah herbal ephedrine does nothing
It was done at the Indianapolis Olympic Trials in 1988 prior to Ben's 9.79 at Seoul. If the wind was legal it would have been a world record.
if the runners feet left the blocks before 0.120 of a second after the gun goes off, then it was classified as a false start. Ben's feet left the blocks 0.127 after the gun went off. Not a false start.
+Andrew K False or not according the rules, he started early anyways. You can clearly see how he raises his arms and torso before the others.
+Hr Gwea we could use the Carl Lewis defense and say that under today's rules it'd be Ok so it wasn't cheating.
I'm not saying he cheated. I'm saying he got an unfair advantage, even if that's allowed by the rules.
+Hr Gwea fair enough. still amazing start
+Andrew K actually it s 0.10
Don't blame Johnson for not really wanting to shake Lewis's hand. Lewis's was trashing him big time during those years. Recently he started on Usain Bolt as well. Glad Bolt put him in his place.
the greatest start I've ever seen in my life........what an amazing athlete, ben johnson, glory, honour and acknoledgement should be given back to him, in respect to his incredible hugeness....
You make a fair point, they were both great athletes, but what differentiates them in my eyes is Johnson has come clean about his PED usage where Lewis still tries to maintain up until the present day that he was clean all along, also Lewis was suggesting Johnson was using PED's when they were competing without directly pointing the finger, many of us know Lewis was also using banned PED's.
Yeah I like Bailey. One of only a few men to ever have had held the World Record, World Championship title & Olympic Games title at the same time
in 88 the American federation gave the OK for a bucket load of athletes, which Lewis was one of, to go to the olympics despite their failed drugtests. Carl in particular was tested positive for ephydrene (sp?) which was a banned substance.
I dont care what anyone says. Ben Johnson is the greatest 100m sprinter of all times period!!!
TheFlash3237 your such a fucking idiot
Deron Prophet Whoa, nice comment. Very smart.
TheFlash3237 A1!
Bolt
+TheFlash3237 YOU ALSO use drugs
Exactly. I'm a fan of track and field, I couldn't care less what country Bolt is from. I never thought I would see a 9.6 before he came along. Then he surprises me again the next year with a 9.5. I don't think people understand just how insane that is. NINE FIVE EIGHT!! Doesn't matter what country he's from, we probably won't see something like that again til we're old and gray. I couldn't care less if he was American, Jamaican, Chinese etc. He's a once in a life time athlete.
calvin smith and the brazilian runner were the only ones who struck me as honest in that whole seoul '88 race
and no one was there to see them.
i personally think johnson deserves the gold... he won.
although i may a bit, i don't feel too sorry for him... he knew he was breaking the rules and he got caught... too bad.
they did a documentary on this race. I think it's called "9.79". I've heard it's really good.
@andyx1205 yep, when all this came out, his official reaction was "so what". In 88 the first one over the line who never tested positive was Calvin Smith, who was fourth. It's an injustice he hasn't been given a gold medal and both Lewis and Christie disqualified after the race.
THE GOAT when getting out of those blocks, no'one has touched his block times since.
@Rohan Grin So were the others but no'one has still ever got out of those blocks quicker than Ben, combine that with the lanky legs of Bolt and you would probably be looking at a 9.4ish.
@@ZEUSDAZ Johnson was up to his eyes on steroids ie Johnsons time have absolutely no relevancy whatsoever he was cheating to the extreme we should not even be referring to Johnson he was cheating to the extreme
You'r right...Lewis was always saying that Johnson was taking drugs, while he was on drugs too
Top 50 Greatest Sprinters of all time Male and Female (Ranked)
1. Bolt
2. Johnson
3. Fraser-Pryce
4. Lewis
5. Felix
6. Greene
7. Perec
8. Campbell-Brown
9. Gatlin
10. Thompson-Herah
11. Meritt
12. Wariner
13. Van Nierkerk, Ohuruogu, Freeman
16. Cuthbert
17. Devers
18. Ottey
19. Torrence
20. Szewinska
21. Miller-Uibo
22. Kirani James
23. Schippers
24. Stecher
25. Flo-Jo
26. Linford Christie, Richards-Ross
28. Calvin Smith
29. Borzov
30. Bryzgina
31. Donovan Bailey, Gardiner, Koch
34. Gay, Block
36. Jesse Owens, Rudolph, Joe Morrow, Tolan, Craig, Hahn, Tyus, Wockel, Brisco-Hooks, Marjorie Jackson, Blankers-Koen
47. Kenteris
48. Marion Jones, Krabbe, Moller
What do you think of my ranking? Any notable sprinters you think I forgot to mention? Any sprinter that shouldn't be on the list?
The list is purely based on accomplishment and results. It doesn't take into account what you did outside the sport
No, the point is the 'decency' was not genuine just a picture for Lewis to paint for the camera's.
I dont think the video/sound match. Everyone false started
The speed of sound is slower than the speed of steroids. That's why.
False start
Go fix churches
@@jasonmorris858????
everyone on that level is on something, period
Ben Johnson better than Carl has ever been.
How else does Ben Johnson go from 10.25 in '84 to 9.83 in only 3 years? That's almost half a second
Everybody was on steroids. The Americans and East Germans/Russians had even better doping programs and doctors. Ben was simply faster and Charlie Francis was a genius.
No Ben did not have a 'new start where he hopped up on both feet' Ben always started that way from when he first started sprinting as described by his coach Charlie Francis in his 'sort of' biography written after the 1988 Olympics.
American born and raised. Just not biased.
Just like how they still believed that FloJo, Carl Lewis & Marion Jones just to name a few were squeaky 'clean'
Only those commie East Germans and Soviets were on the gear! The US is always in the right!
Ben Johnson would make an excellent AMerican Football Running Back
They were all on gear. Ben just took more than the rest, and got caught!
@toronto daddy Gear increase mass.
He wasn't caught, they fabricated
There has been huge speculation, he was just smart enough to, not get caught.
Doesn't matter, Johnson would still beat Lewis on the new track and Lewis would still have an excuse.
History books? Name a single time Lewis didn't pass a drug test. You're making this up. He was clean his entire career.
Redirected here by GSP on JRE.
Totally in agreement with your last sentence. But you will always never hear which country has the fastest man. You know something EPizits, I'm glad that I'm alive to witness the things that Usain Bolt did. 'Cause I'm almost certain that it will never happen again in my lifetime. Adding to that, it doesn't really matter which country he's from.
There are sensors to detect that. Carl was just doing his usual find an excuse for losing.
Dang I remember watching this while in middle school, lol, don't remember it looking so old. I remember being sooo surprised and happy Carl Lewis got beat. Lol I remember Carl Lewis stuttering afterwards, it was so funny
really
It's made of different material. It is not a treadmill. Carl is not even in the same league at Bolt; but I bet he would have an excuse ready for losing.
It wasn't a genuine congratulations that came from the heart, it was a congratulations that came because the world was watching him.
How u no that ben johnson was a show off an to me he didnt show no sportsman ship
Ben had no drive phase...ridiculous. Definitely could have ran 9.5 something if he ran in this generation
How....what is wrong with time in this generation......is 19th century faster than 21st century😂
Sainul Abid maybe training techniques have improved over time?
Yes
no man they replayed after he did the race and he had like reaction time of something 0.02 it was just an amazing start.
They took the medal off Ben Johnson to give it to Carl Lewis another steroids user. Watch the documentary " Bigger Stronger Faster" it is right here on youtube. One of the best documentaries ever
I think Ben could beat bolt with the balco drugs now the faster track, better shoes, better equipment, because bens force production is serious and top end speed, we're talk about a 9.45
Ben Johnson = best starter of all time
Carl's 9.78 was wind aided with a +5, Bailey's 9.84 was just +0.7
Go Ben!!!!
Great share. Watching from India.👌🌺🌺🇮🇳
just timelag between audio and video or was that really such a blatant false start?
I think Ben Johnson was faster than Carl Lewis in all their starts....Where Carl Lewis excelled was pulling away. Sad that Ben Johnson was disgraced with doping. But I all things being equal....Carl Lewis would have loss the start and pass Ben Johnson at the end......that's the way he seemed to win his races.
Ben Johnson used the same process of loading up with steroids on the off season as he had done many times before, then cycled off in time to test clean for when he was due to be tested, however his test sample was interfered with, 30 for 30 9.79 documentary gives an idea who sabotaged Johnson's test.
Carl shouldn't even have been at the 88 Olympics. He failed multiple tests.
who was the guy on lane 1 who it seems me , also had a great start ...maybe even better then Ben
no it looks like he did have a brief handshake but he was running as well if you notice did the same to the get before lewis
Is it just me, or does Carl Lewis' sister completely look like Carl Lewis?
Funny, in 1986 the World Cup Junior Athletics was held here in Melbourne Australia at Olympic Park no1 ground, at 14 years old aehy set the World Record in the 100m hurdles - 200m sprint (so no aehy don't care about Usain Bolt), shotput, joint World Record in the 4×100m sprint relay and a 1st in the 1500m on the same day for Altona Nth Technical School, aehy was told to try out against Carl Lewis and aehy said "Let the Blackman have it, aehy will go into distance running" so in 1989 as Invitational runner for Williamstown Athletics Club aehy set the World Record in the 3km run on my 1st attempt at Senior competition and in 1991 aehy set the World Record for the 5km/10km run.
you and i have had this conversation before... lewis never got busted... tested positive and cleared is not busted. if what happened to lewis had happened to johnson, he'd still be denying steroid use to this day and you know it.
i defend johnson as an athlete... i am not an expert on track, but i am more impressed by his start than any other i've ever seen... but he was crooked, like many others.
and to make lewis out to be a bad guy on what seems like resentment that he is american..?
"This is the race, coaches are gonna show their athletes for the next 50 years." LOL she's right but for a different reason.
carl lewis only ate fruits ans vegetables....looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
fruits weren't full of vitamines....;
bidou03111973
Vegan Nazis can be Blacks too ;) xD xD
Yes he eats only fruits 🍉 and veggies 😂 lol
Veg yes fruits is a no go do the math
Eat not ate..
to paint johnson as a hero and lewis as a villain is not really fair nor correct.
they both seemed a little crooked to me... and they were both great athletes
Carl Lewis was juiced to the max so it was a fair race. Ben whipped his ass.
Great start by Ben Johnson ever!
Yes sir
Carl Lewis should have been disqualified too. He ran out of his lane on 2 or 3 occasions and yet there were no flags against him.
Ben Johnson was jacked! You can tell he was using something.
Y’all see my uncle in 3rd lol Raymond Stewart 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
many other races before the chrono write an number and they correct it after and that was alwayse they added 1 of 2 s..the same in 200 m the chrono was first 19,31s, insteeds to correct it to 19,33s as it was in reality they want to make the game more succesful and so they put 19,30s, because that record of Michael johnson of 19,32s wil never be broken
no it's not. as long as you start after the gun it's not a false start. and that's the average human reaction time, not an olympic athletes reaction time.
Ich rede von Seoul 88!! Johnson hatte dort nicht nur seinen WR unterboten, sondern Lewis auf dessen Terrain geschlagen, mit schwachem Start und starkem Finish. Die Niederlage war so endgültig und die Frage nach der Nummer Eins in der Welt für immer geklärt, dass es jeder verstanden hätte, wenn Lewis wortlos das Weite gesucht hätte, anstatt zu gratulieren. Dass er dabei innerlich gekotzt hat, willst Du ihm jetzt nicht wirklich vorwerfen, oder?
PS: Dopingvorwürfe gab es damals von beiden Seiten.
Where the video of parallel block start by ben johnson
Not being much of a fan of track & field it has nothing to do with American pride or vindication. If I thought Lewis was as guilty as Johnson I would have no problem with Linford Christie being the gold medalist in the 1988 100m. Both Lewis & Johnson were born in 1961 which would have put them in their prime age of around 23 during the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. Lewis was the better runner. After eight consecutive losses to Lewis in 1985, Johnson finally won a race. The turning point.
Christie was worse than Ben or Carl for drugs , he was caught but later in his career.
Me gustaría saber los tiempos de todos estos monstruos que corrieron ese hit histórico !!! Woooow
So just so we're clear, Ben was the only sprinter doping or taking steroids? Nobody else was? So of all the athletes in the Olympics , Carl Lewis was clean??? That makes him the greatest sprinter of all time then. Wow!!!
cuanto hizo carl lewis ¿alguien me puede decir? en indianapolis hizo 9:78 y aqui?
That boom start of Ben Johnson had nothing to do with Drugs....it was purely him.....
he didn't congratulate him... he caught up with him to tell him that he (ben) false-started... which was not true.
I disagree with the announcers about all of Ben's speed and how he was the fastest in this race. You can see Carl was right on his ass matches his speed. It was just the start. And the steroids. Good that Carl won it in the end.
Could you any more worng?
Carl was caught prior to the Olympics and should not have been there.
@Loadfaster so do you really think that a wider starting position of the arms gave Ben Johnson a better start than the other sprinters????? Why nobody has never emulated him???a bit awkward as a theory.....
Seeing how badly he beat Lewis, Johnson probably could have beaten him by not doping up.
They were both doped up.
Johnson was an outstanding sprinter, better than Lewis, no doubt. And they were all cheaters.
***** his form was great, his running style, his determination. plus you won't dope yourself from a slow runner to world class.
+Christian Cianfrani Ben Johnson and his affiliates said themselves the PEDS he was using helped take off .18 - .20 seconds max
If Ben Johnson wasn't on dope he couldn't even compete. Johnson's a manufactured roid freak who couldn't keep up with the big boys without the dope.
He made carl run mate thankyou
Dude he can out run the wind.
Ben Jonson is golden heart of running like a deer
Are You kidding me? We talk about the olympic race in Seoul 1988.
Wtfffff look at the way Ben burst out of the blocks
dat start loooks nastyyy
Of course, Lewis was angry when he lost. But he showed decency, and that's the point...
No he didn't he bitched and moaned and made accusations left and right. There's not a graceful, decent bone in that hypocrite's body.