A lot of the problem with the development of Hurling is in the larger counties. I have seen it smaller counties are sneered at a hurling kid in Louth is just as committed as that same kid in Tipperary. They need funding and exposure 20 seconds on the TV is just not good enough otherwise this game will die
It just goes to show you exactly how interested the gaa really are on this subject, they couldn't be arsed appearing on the programme to discuss their plans, reason: they don't have one. As long as the traditional larger counties in both hurling and football are making bucket loads of money for them, then they're happy. Lets be honest here, outside of division one in both codes nobody really cares and there lies the real issue.
All sheedy could do was laugh at the end when cantwell called time on it. Rte were talking about this like they were going to give it some serious air time. They had barely introduced the guests and they were already wrapping it up ffs
Were you expecting a four hour exposé. For all their faults rte know something about broadcasting, if they had an hour discussion I for one wouldn't have bothered to watch this video. Surely a 20 minute conversation would be more useful than having a longer conversation that nobody listened to.
"we have to think outside the box" (repeated 3 times) - jesus wept - do better with the people invited to give some insight on this super important topic
Is time to pair 2 counties with smaller populations of hurling together eg Westmeath and Louth or Laois and offaly?and then make it a home and away season of games for points on a league table like Australian rules football, with top 8 playing finals run it from April till October?
The standard of hurling in Cork at club level has dropped alarmingly over the last couple of decades. How long is it since a Cork club won the club All Ireland?
5 counties in Munster. Kilkenny and to a lesser extent Dublin and to an even lesser extent Wexford in Leinster. Galway in Connaught and with all due respect to Antrim, they are not going to win an All Ireland any time soon. So realistically, you have, at most 8 teams with a chance of winning Liam. It is unsustainable in the modern era with so much else going on.
Only Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipperary and a toss up between Galway and Cork can win the All Ireland because they have the most club participation. Clare, Waterford, Wexford, Dublin, Offaly, Antrim should be in a lower division Joe McDonagh with the finalists going into the quarter finals of the All Ireland instead of Kerry or Laois, these weaker counties in hurling won't ever have a say in the Liam MacCarthy cup.
And then you have to look at all the money that was thrown at Dublin hurling, at intercounty level Dublin still have gone backwards 20 years later. I had to laugh at the example used the Antrim v Dublin was used as how close games are. The reality is it has shown Dublin have gone backwards. A better example would be how Dublin played v Tipp or how Westmeath played v Galway.
Hurling is a brilliant game to watch, never played it myself though (rugby when I as a kid in school). What I got from this, as a not terribly well-informed outsider, is it sounds like the organization of the competitions and the season itself is seriously borked. The stuff about training seven months and then the season being over in a few games is bonkers. Fixing that does not need a big investment of money though, just a better arrangement of the fixture list.
This is supposed to be our National game but it is not and never was. It was a spoof by the GAA to say this when Soccer and now Rugby are more popular today. I played hurling when I was young and loved it. I played hurling until I was 18 and was a reasonable player, sometimes good mostly mediocre, but still I loved it. The GAA love to portray hurling as a tough and dangerous game. It is nothing of the sort. When I played it I hardly ever got a serious injury just like the inter-county players hardly ever get injured. When I played soccer however, I got more serious injuries like leg breaks, lost teeth, concussion and much more. The GAA peddles "The Gael", peddles "Our Game", "We all belong" and the GAA is nothing of the sort for many Irish men and women. I wish the GAA would get off that horse. It's a tired strategy that does not work or apply to many many Irish people. Few counties play hurling and that's a real pity but for me and many others it his no match to Rugby or football(soccer)
Oh right is that why so many people turn up to local club soccer games around the country 😅. Yeah right I know soccer clubs that can barely get 5 supporters on the sideline.
Hurling is a fantastic sport. I would have a Championship of 16 teams, 4 groups of 4. Top 2 into Liam McCarthy Cup. Bottom 2 into Christy Ring Cup. 16 teams should get a chance every year. Yes there will be some absolute annihilations but the teams form 17-32 have a third tier comp say the Cody cup.
@@nigefal There are still strong clubs coming out of the other provinces though, there would just be a lot more. There's less commitment in Dublin because there's so many other things to do.
There are about 8 top flight hurling teams ...and a similar number in football? There is no significant social hurling network in many weaker counties like Longford ....by all means play and enjoy but beating Kilkenny is a pipe dream not for this generation.
Hurling needs to be a compulsory subject in primary schools.Of course people will say won't make any difference they will grow to hate the game like the irish language some will but the fact that are exposed to a defining part of our culture is a success in itself and after school they do what they likebut atleast will have tried our national sport.Not every kid is involved in irish dancing but atleast most are exposed to it.
When I was in primary school in Sligo we were forced to play Hurling, we generally liked it I guess, but football and soccer were much more popular. How many decided to continue playing Hurling with clubs, 0. Your plan is one that would not work. I still enjoy watching Hurling, but the issue is much bigger than just forcing exposure to the game.
@@a88senna I don't know but i would doubt that every primary school in sligo has hurling.They are only 5 clubs in the whole of sligo,if you make hurling compulsory over time you will generate interest some people will set up more clubs it will take generations but even if that does not happen atleast they will have been exposed to the national sport which as i said above is a success in itself.In south dublin its compulsory in rugby schools for all students to play for atleast a month and i would propose something similar or less time may be 2 weeks.
@@gallowglass2630 pretty sure there's 6 clubs not that that changes things hugely, plus there's another couple of clubs that play underage. When I was young most primary schools played some hurling. I can't say categorically that all did, but as a very small primary school we played against other small primary schools, so I would say at that time at least most primary schools played.
Amalgamate smaller counties, get the player numbers balanced between counties. No kid wants to follow losing teams. Asking a Tipp or Kilkenny person for advice is pointless.
I would also say no kid wants to support an amalgamted county team. Being forced into an unhappy marriage with likely one of your biggest GAA rivals is not a way to help things.
@@a88senna Maybe not amalgamating intercounty teams. But amalgamate the leagues. So say Meath, Westmeath and Louth is all one hurling league, Armagh, Down and Monaghan another. That the club players would be playing regularly at a higher level.
It would not be much of a competition you barely have 6 decent teams for a first division for a start. Also you don't even have 32 teams that hurl. Massive gaps in standard even within the same "divisions". The nature of hurling would lead to a lot of 20 plus points wins, over as contests in 20 minutes.
A lot of the problem with the development of Hurling is in the larger counties. I have seen it smaller counties are sneered at a hurling kid in Louth is just as committed as that same kid in Tipperary. They need funding and exposure 20 seconds on the TV is just not good enough otherwise this game will die
It just goes to show you exactly how interested the gaa really are on this subject, they couldn't be arsed appearing on the programme to discuss their plans, reason: they don't have one. As long as the traditional larger counties in both hurling and football are making bucket loads of money for them, then they're happy. Lets be honest here, outside of division one in both codes nobody really cares and there lies the real issue.
I don't like naming counties ,but say in the likes of meath ,the cb force dual players to pick either football or hurling at 16!!!!ridiculous stuff
A separate hurling tv programme might be an idea for a start.
The answer is to pay Liam Sheedy to oversee reform. He's the man for the job.
All sheedy could do was laugh at the end when cantwell called time on it. Rte were talking about this like they were going to give it some serious air time. They had barely introduced the guests and they were already wrapping it up ffs
Were you expecting a four hour exposé. For all their faults rte know something about broadcasting, if they had an hour discussion I for one wouldn't have bothered to watch this video. Surely a 20 minute conversation would be more useful than having a longer conversation that nobody listened to.
@@a88senna pull your head out of RTEs hole and come up for some air like a good clown
"we have to think outside the box" (repeated 3 times) - jesus wept - do better with the people invited to give some insight on this super important topic
True. And he's a teacher. Should be able to communicate better. In his defence, probably his first time on television. Nerves can befuddle the mind.
The solution is simple - offer a financial incentive to the players.
I’d say give a prize pool for winning cups
Is time to pair 2 counties with smaller populations of hurling together eg Westmeath and Louth or Laois and offaly?and then make it a home and away season of games for points on a league table like Australian rules football, with top 8 playing finals run it from April till October?
Of course but it is the GAA, they are too wedded to the parish pump. Very local/narrow in their thinking.
The standard of hurling in Cork at club level has dropped alarmingly over the last couple of decades. How long is it since a Cork club won the club All Ireland?
5 counties in Munster. Kilkenny and to a lesser extent Dublin and to an even lesser extent Wexford in Leinster. Galway in Connaught and with all due respect to Antrim, they are not going to win an All Ireland any time soon. So realistically, you have, at most 8 teams with a chance of winning Liam. It is unsustainable in the modern era with so much else going on.
Only Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipperary and a toss up between Galway and Cork can win the All Ireland because they have the most club participation. Clare, Waterford, Wexford, Dublin, Offaly, Antrim should be in a lower division Joe McDonagh with the finalists going into the quarter finals of the All Ireland instead of Kerry or Laois, these weaker counties in hurling won't ever have a say in the Liam MacCarthy cup.
And then you have to look at all the money that was thrown at Dublin hurling, at intercounty level Dublin still have gone backwards 20 years later. I had to laugh at the example used the Antrim v Dublin was used as how close games are. The reality is it has shown Dublin have gone backwards. A better example would be how Dublin played v Tipp or how Westmeath played v Galway.
@JayJay-dm8bn Clare got to the semi final last year and they should be in Joe McDonagh? Yeah okay lad
Hurling is a brilliant game to watch, never played it myself though (rugby when I as a kid in school). What I got from this, as a not terribly well-informed outsider, is it sounds like the organization of the competitions and the season itself is seriously borked. The stuff about training seven months and then the season being over in a few games is bonkers. Fixing that does not need a big investment of money though, just a better arrangement of the fixture list.
The GAA is always hung up on tradition, only for covid the split season for clubs competitions and county competitions.
This is supposed to be our National game but it is not and never was. It was a spoof by the GAA to say this when Soccer and now Rugby are more popular today. I played hurling when I was young and loved it. I played hurling until I was 18 and was a reasonable player, sometimes good mostly mediocre, but still I loved it. The GAA love to portray hurling as a tough and dangerous game. It is nothing of the sort. When I played it I hardly ever got a serious injury just like the inter-county players hardly ever get injured. When I played soccer however, I got more serious injuries like leg breaks, lost teeth, concussion and much more. The GAA peddles "The Gael", peddles "Our Game", "We all belong" and the GAA is nothing of the sort for many Irish men and women. I wish the GAA would get off that horse. It's a tired strategy that does not work or apply to many many Irish people. Few counties play hurling and that's a real pity but for me and many others it his no match to Rugby or football(soccer)
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Oh right is that why so many people turn up to local club soccer games around the country 😅. Yeah right I know soccer clubs that can barely get 5 supporters on the sideline.
Hurling is a fantastic sport. I would have a Championship of 16 teams, 4 groups of 4. Top 2 into Liam McCarthy Cup. Bottom 2 into Christy Ring Cup. 16 teams should get a chance every year. Yes there will be some absolute annihilations but the teams form 17-32 have a third tier comp say the Cody cup.
I neck 9 pints, I always hurl, the future of hurling of secure. Don’t see what the problem is.
You're not getting far with 9 pints Ken. Do better.
@@microwaves25 low tolerance, to be honest when at the rugby club, if I neck three on the bounce, it’s straight back up.
@@kenrehill8775 that's life Ken.
Dublin,Kildare and Wicklow will dominate hurling on the near future due massive population growth.
If you help GAA Clubs develop, the counties will follow.
The all Ireland final needs to played the first Sunday of September
If that was true Dublin would have won a few AI's at intercounty level at this stage. But Dublin has instead regressed.
@@nigefal There are still strong clubs coming out of the other provinces though, there would just be a lot more. There's less commitment in Dublin because there's so many other things to do.
The problem is that the ruling orgs are only focussed on how they can benefit.
Is there actually a hurling club called Saint Feckens?
There are about 8 top flight hurling teams ...and a similar number in football? There is no significant social hurling network in many weaker counties like Longford ....by all means play and enjoy but beating Kilkenny is a pipe dream not for this generation.
Football has a much greater depth easier to play as well. It is even kind to say there is 8 teams in hurling.
Hurling needs to be a compulsory subject in primary schools.Of course people will say won't make any difference they will grow to hate the game like the irish language some will but the fact that are exposed to a defining part of our culture is a success in itself and after school they do what they likebut atleast will have tried our national sport.Not every kid is involved in irish dancing but atleast most are exposed to it.
When I was in primary school in Sligo we were forced to play Hurling, we generally liked it I guess, but football and soccer were much more popular. How many decided to continue playing Hurling with clubs, 0. Your plan is one that would not work. I still enjoy watching Hurling, but the issue is much bigger than just forcing exposure to the game.
@@a88senna I don't know but i would doubt that every primary school in sligo has hurling.They are only 5 clubs in the whole of sligo,if you make hurling compulsory over time you will generate interest some people will set up more clubs it will take generations but even if that does not happen atleast they will have been exposed to the national sport which as i said above is a success in itself.In south dublin its compulsory in rugby schools for all students to play for atleast a month and i would propose something similar or less time may be 2 weeks.
@@gallowglass2630 pretty sure there's 6 clubs not that that changes things hugely, plus there's another couple of clubs that play underage. When I was young most primary schools played some hurling. I can't say categorically that all did, but as a very small primary school we played against other small primary schools, so I would say at that time at least most primary schools played.
Amalgamate smaller counties, get the player numbers balanced between counties. No kid wants to follow losing teams.
Asking a Tipp or Kilkenny person for advice is pointless.
I would also say no kid wants to support an amalgamted county team. Being forced into an unhappy marriage with likely one of your biggest GAA rivals is not a way to help things.
@@a88senna Maybe not amalgamating intercounty teams. But amalgamate the leagues. So say Meath, Westmeath and Louth is all one hurling league, Armagh, Down and Monaghan another. That the club players would be playing regularly at a higher level.
Simple, scrap the championship and put 32 counties into 4 divisions with promotion and relegation, each county will have 14 games per season.
It would not be much of a competition you barely have 6 decent teams for a first division for a start. Also you don't even have 32 teams that hurl. Massive gaps in standard even within the same "divisions". The nature of hurling would lead to a lot of 20 plus points wins, over as contests in 20 minutes.
No room for women in these discussions.
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Like the language of Irish, GAA has to go. It is actually now holding Ireland back in the world.
Amadán. But nice to see your lobotomy was a complete success. Did you get the West Brit discount at D4 Clinic bubba?
How is a sport holding the country back in the world? What kind of lunacy is that?
I bet you love the immigrants coming this country too
Nonsense. Seafóid amach is amach.
@@sesh1255 Alert, we got a racist on our hands.