Side note, after getting the Protection Ring, you can buy or steal the Idol off of Mol. The Idol has a nice aura affect just by having it in your inventory.
When can you buy it from her? She won’t even offer to trade once I give her the idol. This is before the party after the goblin situation. Wondering if I should just wait until later if that doesn’t fail the quest but I’m not parting with that for a ring of protection.
@@gamergeek7482 You will first need to do all of the side quests for the Tiefling children, then speak to Mol. As long as Mol likes you after helping her crew, she will trade with you, but you can also pick up the mission to steal the Idol. You want to get the Idol after exposing Kahga, but before rescuing Halsin. This will stop the ritual, and also keep the Tieflings in the Grove. You can get away with stealing the Idol with some kind of cloaking, like fog cloud or darkness. Once you give Mol the idol to get the Protection Ring, the idol will be in her inventory shop, so you can buy it right back.
@@gamergeek7482 Try swapping characters. I've noticed that if you use a companion to interact with an NPC, a lot of the time the NPC will revert back to their introduction dialogue.
It’s funny but at some point I was able to steal it from her and she was like “if I ever find them….I will ask them to join my crew” lol. But that’s pretty interesting she can just flat out give you the idol. I’m just in no position to turn down free proficiencies. :P Pretty neat though.
Same. I was gaming on PC RPGs back in the late 80s, early 90s. Though they look and play crappy and clunky by todays standards, the level of detail and massive amounts of hidden content were mind blowing, Some of them, especially all the offshoot SSI rpgs, including the now legendary "gold box games" though often these were outdone by lesser known games, could be played 100s of times with completely different outcomes/finds/secrets every single time! About a decade ago, I was discussing with a friend how games today looked and played smoother, but had no where NEAR the options and content of those games of the past. And while he agreed, he said "Its impossible for developers to put that much detail in games of the modern era because of all that goes into graphics and quality". And I BELIEVED that for many years. But Larian has proven that was BS. If developers care enough, they CAN match those past games with modern quality! The way I see it, theres no excuse for half assed corporate games any more!
Don't heal Findal until the fight is over. That way, he remains unconscious, and you can pickpocket his nature circlet without penalty. As well as giving a +1 to Nature, it allows you to enter the grove through the secret poison door. Three other things people often miss in the Grove: Zevlor's gloves (I know, he gives them as a quest reward later, but you can pickpocket him/trade with him now); Volo's ring (same deal); the Amulet of Restoration under the rock near the fishing bear.
@@gchristopherklug in the secret passage where the turret bear statues are there is a rock island/platform. You can jump on and get a perception check for a buried chest.
Ormn the bear is located down the beach after where you meet Volo and before the lift with the sleeping bear. You can talk to him with Speak with Animals then go a little further to jump over to the other side of the small alcove to find a chest with some loot. I like to leave rest of the party to loot the chest with one character then when I come back I lift the flat stone to collect the Amulet of Silvanus which grants you the spell Lesser Restoration.
Ormn the bear is located down the beach after where you meet Volo and before the lift with the sleeping bear. You can talk to him with Speak with Animals then go a little further to jump over to the other side of the small alcove to find a chest with some loot. I like to leave rest of the party to loot the chest with one character then when I come back I lift the flat stone to collect the Amulet of Silvanus which grants you the spell Lesser Restoration.
Not true. I got it on my oathbreaker paladin with no druid in my party. Just complete the quest to expose her without killing her in the fight at the end and she summons it and you get it.
Pale Oak requirements: Be a druid, take the note from Kagha's chest behind the bookshelf in the mini library she's standing next to, go to the location and kill the imps and woads (sp?), tell Kagha you know, tell Rath (I just show him the letter from the meeting place), successfully convince Kagha to turn back from the shadows to the light of Silvanus, make sure Kagha survives the fight with the three shadow druids (I know one of them is a Moon Druid because they can turn into a bear. Don't know about the other two, but given how they fight they're either Land or Moon Druids, definitely not Spore (which would be perfect for a Shadow Druid imho). The cap of curing is useless as equipment unless you are running a Bard. If you aren't running a Bard that cap is a perfect item for Gale though. At least I know how to get the Ring of Protection now. Combine that with the Bracers of Defence and the Cloak of Protection (cloak found in act 2) and an unarmored character (Barbarian, Monk, Sorcerer, and Wizard typically) and that's a +4 total to AC and a +2 to saving throws (Ring and Cloak). Dammit munchkin get back in the box!
**DO NOT** steal the idol until after you've discredited Kagha, because if you do the druids will retaliate and slaughter the tieflings. Furthermore, you will be shown the secret hatch to get into the hideout if you save the kid, Mirkon, from the harpies (i.e., if he survives the fight)>
If you steal the tablet off of Rath in Kahga’s chamber, you can use it to complete the tablet puzzle in Nettie secret library, and take stairs down into a room that contains a magic staff.
@@agranosclem Very true, but you can get it much earlier by stealing the Tablet. There are a few quest reward items that you can get a lot earlier by either buying or stealing them off of the person who will eventually give the reward.
@@JasonNCSU2007 If you kill the circus leader as soon as you reach act3 you can loot her staff _and_ the quest reward gloves off her, saving you AT LEAST a solid hour to do the clown quest - and that's if you already know exactly where to go (you'll still visit most of those places eventually but being able to start the act off with a piece of BIS gear like the gloves is very nice). Staff is nice too if you're into necromancy DC spells but most wizzrds will probably want the one from sorcerous sundries basement.
@@graysaltine6035 Forcing us to find every piece is just dumb i think. It should be only head that you find during one of main quests i think then it should be over. Ditched it after like 4 pieces, glove isn't so good nor needed after spending hours in act 3..
@@arielbustamante9333 No it is not too heavy, you just move it a small amount multiple times to get it out of the way. It can be done by Shadowheart, as I have done it with her.
Seems I completely missed that ring from Mol. Then again I also messed up the whole tiefling bit by grabbing the tiefling child who was trying to steal stuff from me; angering Mol for some reason. Next playthrough I'll just grab the idol and then buy it back as keeping it in your inventory should also give you and your partymembers an AoE buff. Not sure if that buff keeps working throughout Act2 and Act3 or not but we'll see.
If you look at the top of the stone henge stones that surround the idol, there's a second bird's nest & second shiny chest. Jump on top of the stonge near the devil bard to get at the nest. Also Jump down from near the midget merchant onto the stone henge to find the other shiny chest.
How about the Ring that gives Color Spray from the harpy nest, on top of the cliffs back behind, and around the corner, from the harpies? You have to be a druid in order to get the staff from Kagha, so it's extra rare, though I think the amulet you get for killing her is better than the staff as you'll use the amulet all the way to the final boss.
@@heyimanameheyimalastname you checked the actual nest? Or the pile of twigs thats near them where you fight them? Theres a path behind where you fight them, along the water, past the chest.
@heyimanameheyimalastname It's further back than that. Where the harpies spawn, there's some worthless skeletons you don't need to bother with, and then there's a chest near the shore in the back. Go past that chest, and jump on the little island behind it, go to the far side and then jump over the water to the right, climb up that hill and make one more jump, climb up that column, and there you'll find a nest that has 2 book/letter things in it that you can see when you press alt, but you can also click the nest itself to loot it and that's where the ring is.
That goblin fight in the tunnels is much easier if you go thru the entrance outside near where the first initial fight is with the goblins ,wyll and the mercs.
If you come in the back way and turn off the wolf statue turret I think this way is easier.... if you come in the other way there's a turret you have to run past before you can turn it off.
I know it doesn’t work like this but it’d be funny if you have Pale Oak when you meet Jaheira in act 2 and you can just laugh at her trying to tie you up with vines
Killing Kagha is INFINITELY MORE REWARDING as you can get a necklace that imbues Poison to the wearer's weapon attacks WHENEVER they are healed while in combat.
Combine that with Wapira's Crown, the helmet that heals you whenever you heal another character (on a cleric, using bonus action to heal). Or even better - Ring of Regeneration on your frontline.
It's a lot easier to just outright steal the whole chest and then get out with them none the wiser. Open it back at camp, less stressfull. But thanks for explaining how to get the idol, that's a neat use of magic pockets.
The Cap of Curing is not found past the pillars, but is instead found in the chest next to Alfira. If not playing a bard, it’s a great item to provide to Gale.
when you go to the secret door behind the prison, using Astarion (ungrouped) to sneak to the blue tablet on the wall and press it to disarm the bear trap.. then jump to the right side and there will be a buried chest there ... follow down and around keeping stealth on so the wolf trap doesn't see you. disarm it at the bottom and loot the body there for the key to the trapped chest with the barrels. the final trap is the eagle and you will want to disarm it also. if you wait until you finish fighting the goblins to revive Findal, you can pick pocket him first to get the "key of ancients" head piece that unlocks the secret door in the library. once you have all the loot you can revive him, talk to him and let him run away, however if you happen to have Sazza with you, talking to her at the entrance will allow you to leave her behind and she will wait for youto come back and get her. if you talk to Findal with her at your side he will get scared and run off without a conversation. if you take her to battle the goblins she will die .. if you have an animal companion with you when you ask her to wait she will get scared and run off and die.
I stole the idol by using an invisibility potion, but the druids started to kill all the Tieflings and I couldn't talk to Mol anymore to get the reward.
There's a ring, the shapeshifters boon you can get by killing the fake ox in the grove. He follows the caravan so idk if you find it in act 2. It's useful to me in act 1 so I kill it early. 1d6 roll of all checks if you are shapeshifted.
Have they patched the bug that happens if you kill the Strange Ox in Act 1? Because last time I killed the Strange Ox in Act 1 i prevented Dammon fom showing up in Act 2 with the rest of the Tieflings.
yes be warned if you do and your trying to do karlach stuff you can bork her story line i know up to patch 2 and hotfixes it was not fixed not tryed sense then so dont know if 3 fixed it on pc it can be fixed sense can do a script thing but unless you really want the ring its better to wait till least act 2
You can get the ring without killing the Ox, all you need to do is atack him with a single character at the grove, let it kill the character, revive and go back. Then you will have the option to give him something to undo your agression which will open his trading menu and allow you to buy the ring.
you missed the chest on the crossbeam of one of the pillars around the hear tof the grove. Jump down from next to the wagon at the entrance to the grove
If you kill Kahga, she has a necklace only available by looting off her dead body. Also, Findal has a unique item if you loot him before raising him, or kill and loot him in Kahga’s chambers. Neither of these items are all that worth it, but unique nonetheless.
@@elijahgtp You're right. It's a lot better than I first thought. 'is healed' is key language, since it does not need to be a healing spell. It can be from a potion, or even passive healing from Ring of Regeneration, Derivation Cloak, Cap of Curing, etc.
@@hhighmell2916 Findal? You first have to find/help him out in the cave next to the grove (the one with a few meandering goblins in it, and connects to the back of the grove). After that, Findal will hang out in Kagha’s chamber for the rest of Act 1.
You could steal the idol before the party at camp after saving the Druid halsin. So much easier. Just make sure you do it in turn based mode with some sort of strategy in mind. I used my hard to distract and had fake use minor illusion to distract everyone else my hard didn’t then I used my other wizard hireling to steal it and he used misty step to avoid anybody.
First one was not removed. I spend hours on top of hours searching everywhere when i go on a quest, and at level 5 I have a total of 3 rings, so I am not ashamed to follow your instructions
Other missing items from the Emerald Grove: Komira’s Locket, obtained after rescuing Arabella. Sorrow & Robe of Summer, in the hidden vault using Roth’s Rune of the Wolf. Key of the Ancients, obtained by pickpocketing Findal. Nature’s Snare, found in the Underground Passage. Ring of Colour Spray, in the harpy nest. Corellon’s Grace, purchased from Auntie Ethel. This should be done early before she leaves the Grove. Silver Pendant, found next to the watchtower just south of the Emerald Grove.
The Ring of Protection bit must've glitched on my first play-through. Mol was stuck for me at a certain point in her dialogue tree and I could never get her to give me the Idol-quest. Seeing what happened now on my second play-through, that made me miss out on a lot of interactions with her that come later in the game - like her speaking up on the party's behalf when you get to Last Light. I did rescue the kid from the Harpies and I did save Arabella from the snake ... but I also got the scene with one of the Tiefling-kids getting threatened by one of the adventurers in the grove (which never triggered on my second play-through, BTW) and I didn't intervene and let the kid get slapped. Possibly it was just the order in which I did things related to the whole Mol-questline in my first play-through - but my guess is that me letting the kid get slapped was what turned her semi hostile, even though I did help out the two other kids. In any case: Another way to take the idol that doesn't involve fast-traveling is after you've picked it up while obscured by fog cloud or something like that, you put it into a backback and then leave the backpack with the idol in it on the ground. Then you leave the area and when you come back, you can simply pick up the backback and walk on out of there and none of the druids will intervene. I gave the idol to Mol and got the ring (which is a pretty amazing item IMO) - but since all the druids around the idol's location were then bummed out and complaining that their circle will be weakened by the loss of the idol, I simply stole the idol back from Mol (quick-save before you try this) and put it back into its place. That actually changed things WRT druid dialogue in the area and made them less doom-and-gloom-y. It's more of a role-playing thing, I guess, since you're about to leave the area for good anyway at this point, but still. I stole it back from her when all the Tieflings were gathered near the entrance to the grove and getting ready to leave for Baldur's Gate. She's a little off to the side from the main path, talking to some of her kids. When you successfully pickpocket it from her, she will tell you that someone stole it from her and that if she ever caught that person, she would recruit them. Other than that, I didn't get any negative consequences from this so far... she still regards me as "family" after this.
You have to get the quest to steal the idol before you do other parts of the grove story. I suggest just getting the quest after you help the kids (there are three times you can help the thief children) and go forward after.
I can not get that ring of protection , which i need so badly, because the Teifs left the grove already, and mole when i met him in the cave told ratted on my and made up lies.
You can also get to the tiefling hideout by rescuing the tiefling child from the harpies. And even to get to Karlach is much easier on an other way but that would be a monster of a text zu explain in text.
I have found that when people make video's of things they have found, the developers go back in and patch the things exposed, out of the game. I am going in and following your instructions. I hope these have not done the same to everything you found.
why in the world did you jump off that cliff to ge the smugglers ring? that was totally unnecessary, you can just walk to it... To be able to get the quest from Mol just go save the kid from the harpies and the kid who tried to steal the idol and they will just let you in to the hideout.
also you're showing paths to get to places (the smugglers ring for one) that yes, sort of work, but holy god are you busy showing people how to get around their elbow to get to their nose. The smugglers ring is reachable simply by going south from the toll house and turning right instead of left to get to where Karlach was.
Apparently yo have to do the idol stealing BEFORE you clear the goblin quest,because once you kill all the leaders it auto complete's Mol's quest, whether you had the quest or not.
I use the smugglers ring with the gloves of Thievery(not in time stamps) which gives advantage on sleight of hand rolls. I don’t really pay for anything anymore. Lol
Weird, pretty sure I got all of these, and didn't do it anything like you did, lol. I know I didn't steal anything or kill anyone though. But... thanks for the tips!
Side note, after getting the Protection Ring, you can buy or steal the Idol off of Mol. The Idol has a nice aura affect just by having it in your inventory.
When can you buy it from her? She won’t even offer to trade once I give her the idol.
This is before the party after the goblin situation.
Wondering if I should just wait until later if that doesn’t fail the quest but I’m not parting with that for a ring of protection.
@@gamergeek7482 You will first need to do all of the side quests for the Tiefling children, then speak to Mol. As long as Mol likes you after helping her crew, she will trade with you, but you can also pick up the mission to steal the Idol. You want to get the Idol after exposing Kahga, but before rescuing Halsin. This will stop the ritual, and also keep the Tieflings in the Grove. You can get away with stealing the Idol with some kind of cloaking, like fog cloud or darkness. Once you give Mol the idol to get the Protection Ring, the idol will be in her inventory shop, so you can buy it right back.
@@gamergeek7482 Try swapping characters. I've noticed that if you use a companion to interact with an NPC, a lot of the time the NPC will revert back to their introduction dialogue.
Mol gave me the idol at the camp party
It’s funny but at some point I was able to steal it from her and she was like “if I ever find them….I will ask them to join my crew” lol.
But that’s pretty interesting she can just flat out give you the idol. I’m just in no position to turn down free proficiencies. :P
Pretty neat though.
It’s insane how much stuff is in the game that I always miss in every play through
Same.
I was gaming on PC RPGs back in the late 80s, early 90s. Though they look and play crappy and clunky by todays standards, the level of detail and massive amounts of hidden content were mind blowing, Some of them, especially all the offshoot SSI rpgs, including the now legendary "gold box games" though often these were outdone by lesser known games, could be played 100s of times with completely different outcomes/finds/secrets every single time!
About a decade ago, I was discussing with a friend how games today looked and played smoother, but had no where NEAR the options and content of those games of the past. And while he agreed, he said "Its impossible for developers to put that much detail in games of the modern era because of all that goes into graphics and quality". And I BELIEVED that for many years.
But Larian has proven that was BS. If developers care enough, they CAN match those past games with modern quality! The way I see it, theres no excuse for half assed corporate games any more!
Don't heal Findal until the fight is over. That way, he remains unconscious, and you can pickpocket his nature circlet without penalty. As well as giving a +1 to Nature, it allows you to enter the grove through the secret poison door.
Three other things people often miss in the Grove: Zevlor's gloves (I know, he gives them as a quest reward later, but you can pickpocket him/trade with him now); Volo's ring (same deal); the Amulet of Restoration under the rock near the fishing bear.
Which ‘fishing bear’? Lord, did I miss EVERYTHING?
The bear on the beach who complains about Halsin not coming back@@gchristopherklug
@@gchristopherklug in the secret passage where the turret bear statues are there is a rock island/platform. You can jump on and get a perception check for a buried chest.
Ormn the bear is located down the beach after where you meet Volo and before the lift with the sleeping bear. You can talk to him with Speak with Animals then go a little further to jump over to the other side of the small alcove to find a chest with some loot. I like to leave rest of the party to loot the chest with one character then when I come back I lift the flat stone to collect the Amulet of Silvanus which grants you the spell Lesser Restoration.
Ormn the bear is located down the beach after where you meet Volo and before the lift with the sleeping bear. You can talk to him with Speak with Animals then go a little further to jump over to the other side of the small alcove to find a chest with some loot. I like to leave rest of the party to loot the chest with one character then when I come back I lift the flat stone to collect the Amulet of Silvanus which grants you the spell Lesser Restoration.
No need to jump off the cliff to get the smuggler’s ring. Simply jump across the river near Scratch and turn left.
Right? I feel like he did that to possibly get people killed lol.
@OTOBIOhazord you can also climb down from the place where you fight the gnolls. There's vines on the side of the road
There's also a rock wall you can climb down if you turn left at the bridge and walk to the cliff edge.
@@lndianajoe No need to encounter the Gnolls, you can get to Karlach very early and get Scratch early as well.
That was such a jack*ss move if you asked me…. 😂😂😂😂
Kagha only provides Pale Oak if playing a druid. Otherwise, you’re better off killing her to get the Broodmother’s Revenge.
Respec into druid for the staff then kill Kagha later so you get both rewards?
Can you use a camp summoned druid minion to loot Khaga for the staff?
@@tammywilliams2035yrrr
Not true. I got it on my oathbreaker paladin with no druid in my party. Just complete the quest to expose her without killing her in the fight at the end and she summons it and you get it.
@@Carimm60 Weird, I didn't get anything from her as a Bard.
Pale Oak requirements: Be a druid, take the note from Kagha's chest behind the bookshelf in the mini library she's standing next to, go to the location and kill the imps and woads (sp?), tell Kagha you know, tell Rath (I just show him the letter from the meeting place), successfully convince Kagha to turn back from the shadows to the light of Silvanus, make sure Kagha survives the fight with the three shadow druids (I know one of them is a Moon Druid because they can turn into a bear. Don't know about the other two, but given how they fight they're either Land or Moon Druids, definitely not Spore (which would be perfect for a Shadow Druid imho).
The cap of curing is useless as equipment unless you are running a Bard. If you aren't running a Bard that cap is a perfect item for Gale though.
At least I know how to get the Ring of Protection now. Combine that with the Bracers of Defence and the Cloak of Protection (cloak found in act 2) and an unarmored character (Barbarian, Monk, Sorcerer, and Wizard typically) and that's a +4 total to AC and a +2 to saving throws (Ring and Cloak). Dammit munchkin get back in the box!
Do you know if you can just temporarily respec into Druid via Withers to claim the reward?
@@andybodle7560 You definitely can lol
**DO NOT** steal the idol until after you've discredited Kagha, because if you do the druids will retaliate and slaughter the tieflings.
Furthermore, you will be shown the secret hatch to get into the hideout if you save the kid, Mirkon, from the harpies (i.e., if he survives the fight)>
Is mol still there after you save the grove?
If you steal the tablet off of Rath in Kahga’s chamber, you can use it to complete the tablet puzzle in Nettie secret library, and take stairs down into a room that contains a magic staff.
You can get the tablet just by getting Halsin back
@@agranosclem Very true, but you can get it much earlier by stealing the Tablet. There are a few quest reward items that you can get a lot earlier by either buying or stealing them off of the person who will eventually give the reward.
is not the staff a glaive?
@@JasonNCSU2007 If you kill the circus leader as soon as you reach act3 you can loot her staff _and_ the quest reward gloves off her, saving you AT LEAST a solid hour to do the clown quest - and that's if you already know exactly where to go (you'll still visit most of those places eventually but being able to start the act off with a piece of BIS gear like the gloves is very nice). Staff is nice too if you're into necromancy DC spells but most wizzrds will probably want the one from sorcerous sundries basement.
@@graysaltine6035 Forcing us to find every piece is just dumb i think. It should be only head that you find during one of main quests i think then it should be over. Ditched it after like 4 pieces, glove isn't so good nor needed after spending hours in act 3..
There's an old Harper chest under a rock in a cave by the water near where you meet Astorian.
You need to pass a perception check and have a strong companion or be strong yourself.
Even with 17 strength it was too heavy
@@arielbustamante9333 No it is not too heavy, you just move it a small amount multiple times to get it out of the way. It can be done by Shadowheart, as I have done it with her.
Seems I completely missed that ring from Mol. Then again I also messed up the whole tiefling bit by grabbing the tiefling child who was trying to steal stuff from me; angering Mol for some reason. Next playthrough I'll just grab the idol and then buy it back as keeping it in your inventory should also give you and your partymembers an AoE buff. Not sure if that buff keeps working throughout Act2 and Act3 or not but we'll see.
The buff from the Idol of Silvanus will last into the other two acts.
absolutely missed the smugglers ring in every playthrough
If you look at the top of the stone henge stones that surround the idol, there's a second bird's nest & second shiny chest. Jump on top of the stonge near the devil bard to get at the nest. Also Jump down from near the midget merchant onto the stone henge to find the other shiny chest.
you can also use mage hand to push the chest off the ledge without having to jump onto the ledge, since mage hand can fly.
How about the Ring that gives Color Spray from the harpy nest, on top of the cliffs back behind, and around the corner, from the harpies? You have to be a druid in order to get the staff from Kagha, so it's extra rare, though I think the amulet you get for killing her is better than the staff as you'll use the amulet all the way to the final boss.
Eh? I saved the kid from the harpies and killed all of them, checked their nests and that whole area back there, and there was no such ring for me
Just respec into druid and get the staff kf you really want it, then respec back.
@@heyimanameheyimalastname you checked the actual nest? Or the pile of twigs thats near them where you fight them? Theres a path behind where you fight them, along the water, past the chest.
@heyimanameheyimalastname It's further back than that. Where the harpies spawn, there's some worthless skeletons you don't need to bother with, and then there's a chest near the shore in the back. Go past that chest, and jump on the little island behind it, go to the far side and then jump over the water to the right, climb up that hill and make one more jump, climb up that column, and there you'll find a nest that has 2 book/letter things in it that you can see when you press alt, but you can also click the nest itself to loot it and that's where the ring is.
Harpies? Where the heck are the Harpies?
Man I missed a lot of these, and they're damn good aswell. Great video
Thanks!
Findal will help with the Kahga fight with the dark druids if you rescued him
That goblin fight in the tunnels is much easier if you go thru the entrance outside near where the first initial fight is with the goblins ,wyll and the mercs.
If you come in the back way and turn off the wolf statue turret I think this way is easier.... if you come in the other way there's a turret you have to run past before you can turn it off.
I know it doesn’t work like this but it’d be funny if you have Pale Oak when you meet Jaheira in act 2 and you can just laugh at her trying to tie you up with vines
Killing Kagha is INFINITELY MORE REWARDING as you can get a necklace that imbues Poison to the wearer's weapon attacks WHENEVER they are healed while in combat.
You can also trigger it by eating groodberries, which actually makes that spell useful on my ranger.
Combine that with Wapira's Crown, the helmet that heals you whenever you heal another character (on a cleric, using bonus action to heal). Or even better - Ring of Regeneration on your frontline.
Don't save Findal before the fight, you can pickpocket a crown off him that increases your nature score by +1
Yeah I wish I thought of that when he was unconscious.
But I have the idol so I guess it works out.
That crown also opens the entry into Grove
Saving Findal from the goblins provides an extra ally if you fight Kagha and the Shadow Druids.
It's a lot easier to just outright steal the whole chest and then get out with them none the wiser. Open it back at camp, less stressfull. But thanks for explaining how to get the idol, that's a neat use of magic pockets.
YO THANK YOU! I've been trying to figure out how to do more Kagha stuff.
The Cap of Curing is not found past the pillars, but is instead found in the chest next to Alfira. If not playing a bard, it’s a great item to provide to Gale.
when you go to the secret door behind the prison, using Astarion (ungrouped) to sneak to the blue tablet on the wall and press it to disarm the bear trap.. then jump to the right side and there will be a buried chest there ... follow down and around keeping stealth on so the wolf trap doesn't see you. disarm it at the bottom and loot the body there for the key to the trapped chest with the barrels. the final trap is the eagle and you will want to disarm it also. if you wait until you finish fighting the goblins to revive Findal, you can pick pocket him first to get the "key of ancients" head piece that unlocks the secret door in the library. once you have all the loot you can revive him, talk to him and let him run away, however if you happen to have Sazza with you, talking to her at the entrance will allow you to leave her behind and she will wait for youto come back and get her. if you talk to Findal with her at your side he will get scared and run off without a conversation. if you take her to battle the goblins she will die .. if you have an animal companion with you when you ask her to wait she will get scared and run off and die.
Thank you!
Really great tip with the Idol, just fucked up my playthrough when the druids went rampage...
I completely missed that Smuggler's ring. I'll need to go back and get it. It's worth it for my Rogue/Assassin Build for Astarion
You can also find a necklace that gives once daily restoration under a rock near a bear in the druid Grove
I stole the idol by using an invisibility potion, but the druids started to kill all the Tieflings and I couldn't talk to Mol anymore to get the reward.
thats why you need to go to camp if breaks the script that starts the battle of grove so its a exploit
You need to get rid of Kagha somehow. There's more than one to do this, so I'll leave the rest to you.
Respec into a Druid just before going to Kagha for the reward, as she only gives it to a Druid. 😉
Someone show this fellow the river near Scratch so he doesnt have to vaporize his bones anymore
Gonna be honest, why are you jumping from way up there, when there's a two jump path across the river right beside Scratch?
ok i missed ALL of these except the hat and im 350 hours in the game
There's a ring, the shapeshifters boon you can get by killing the fake ox in the grove. He follows the caravan so idk if you find it in act 2. It's useful to me in act 1 so I kill it early. 1d6 roll of all checks if you are shapeshifted.
Have they patched the bug that happens if you kill the Strange Ox in Act 1? Because last time I killed the Strange Ox in Act 1 i prevented Dammon fom showing up in Act 2 with the rest of the Tieflings.
yes be warned if you do and your trying to do karlach stuff you can bork her story line
i know up to patch 2 and hotfixes it was not fixed not tryed sense then so dont know if 3 fixed it
on pc it can be fixed sense can do a script thing but unless you really want the ring its better to wait till least act 2
But if you're NOT playing as a shapeshifter, do NOT kill the strange ox, as it reappears later (more than once) and is much more useful!
You can get the ring without killing the Ox, all you need to do is atack him with a single character at the grove, let it kill the character, revive and go back. Then you will have the option to give him something to undo your agression which will open his trading menu and allow you to buy the ring.
@@darcrequiem It is not patched because it aint a bug, Dammon is saved by the Strange Ox in the shadowlands
you missed the chest on the crossbeam of one of the pillars around the hear tof the grove. Jump down from next to the wagon at the entrance to the grove
Thanks for info.
But I've already covered this in my "Missable chests" video.
you actually only get pale oak if you have a druid in the party and talk to kagha with the druid
If you kill Kahga, she has a necklace only available by looting off her dead body. Also, Findal has a unique item if you loot him before raising him, or kill and loot him in Kahga’s chambers. Neither of these items are all that worth it, but unique nonetheless.
Necklace is worth it
@@elijahgtp You're right. It's a lot better than I first thought. 'is healed' is key language, since it does not need to be a healing spell. It can be from a potion, or even passive healing from Ring of Regeneration, Derivation Cloak, Cap of Curing, etc.
What if he isn’t there where can I kill him to get the unique
@@hhighmell2916 Findal? You first have to find/help him out in the cave next to the grove (the one with a few meandering goblins in it, and connects to the back of the grove). After that, Findal will hang out in Kagha’s chamber for the rest of Act 1.
@@JasonNCSU2007 what’s the item
2:56 can't do it anymore I don't think because they still realize it's gone almost immediately
Could you let us know at the beginning that you need to be a Druid to get the staff? Just useful info to know.
Mol Ring looks great... Thanks for info.
You could steal the idol before the party at camp after saving the Druid halsin. So much easier. Just make sure you do it in turn based mode with some sort of strategy in mind. I used my hard to distract and had fake use minor illusion to distract everyone else my hard didn’t then I used my other wizard hireling to steal it and he used misty step to avoid anybody.
I did this and gave mol the idol but didn't receive the ring.
or you could just cast darkness on it, walk up and take it.
When I stole the idol, goto camp, and leave camp, the druid started to attack the Tieflings. ..
The druids will not attack the tieflings if Kagha was exposed beforehand.
Watching this has made me realize that I keep finding these places from the wrong side lol
I can't believe the chest next to Alfira missed! Thanks.
i found a neckless under the big rock down by the water where halsins bear is move it an there it is (sorry dont not remember what 1 tho)
Is it the guidance necklace? I know it was something relatively minor.
damn this game is full of secrets
Coded by Sharrans, obviously.
First one was not removed. I spend hours on top of hours searching everywhere when i go on a quest, and at level 5 I have a total of 3 rings, so I am not ashamed to follow your instructions
Other missing items from the Emerald Grove:
Komira’s Locket, obtained after rescuing Arabella.
Sorrow & Robe of Summer, in the hidden vault using Roth’s Rune of the Wolf.
Key of the Ancients, obtained by pickpocketing Findal.
Nature’s Snare, found in the Underground Passage.
Ring of Colour Spray, in the harpy nest.
Corellon’s Grace, purchased from Auntie Ethel. This should be done early before she leaves the Grove.
Silver Pendant, found next to the watchtower just south of the Emerald Grove.
Thank you so much!
You can also get Key of the Ancients if you kill Nettie.
The Ring of Protection bit must've glitched on my first play-through. Mol was stuck for me at a certain point in her dialogue tree and I could never get her to give me the Idol-quest. Seeing what happened now on my second play-through, that made me miss out on a lot of interactions with her that come later in the game - like her speaking up on the party's behalf when you get to Last Light. I did rescue the kid from the Harpies and I did save Arabella from the snake ... but I also got the scene with one of the Tiefling-kids getting threatened by one of the adventurers in the grove (which never triggered on my second play-through, BTW) and I didn't intervene and let the kid get slapped. Possibly it was just the order in which I did things related to the whole Mol-questline in my first play-through - but my guess is that me letting the kid get slapped was what turned her semi hostile, even though I did help out the two other kids.
In any case: Another way to take the idol that doesn't involve fast-traveling is after you've picked it up while obscured by fog cloud or something like that, you put it into a backback and then leave the backpack with the idol in it on the ground. Then you leave the area and when you come back, you can simply pick up the backback and walk on out of there and none of the druids will intervene. I gave the idol to Mol and got the ring (which is a pretty amazing item IMO) - but since all the druids around the idol's location were then bummed out and complaining that their circle will be weakened by the loss of the idol, I simply stole the idol back from Mol (quick-save before you try this) and put it back into its place. That actually changed things WRT druid dialogue in the area and made them less doom-and-gloom-y. It's more of a role-playing thing, I guess, since you're about to leave the area for good anyway at this point, but still.
I stole it back from her when all the Tieflings were gathered near the entrance to the grove and getting ready to leave for Baldur's Gate. She's a little off to the side from the main path, talking to some of her kids. When you successfully pickpocket it from her, she will tell you that someone stole it from her and that if she ever caught that person, she would recruit them. Other than that, I didn't get any negative consequences from this so far... she still regards me as "family" after this.
You have to get the quest to steal the idol before you do other parts of the grove story. I suggest just getting the quest after you help the kids (there are three times you can help the thief children) and go forward after.
Can I still get those items if I already saved the druid boss that turns into a bear?
omg, I didnt even know you can climb out of the Theifling cove
I can not get that ring of protection , which i need so badly, because the Teifs left the grove already, and mole when i met him in the cave told ratted on my and made up lies.
You can also get to the tiefling hideout by rescuing the tiefling child from the harpies. And even to get to Karlach is much easier on an other way but that would be a monster of a text zu explain in text.
NVM! You just gotta be FAST to get the protection ring done
I have found that when people make video's of things they have found, the developers go back in and patch the things exposed, out of the game. I am going in and following your instructions. I hope these have not done the same to everything you found.
@ 1:20, featherfall eliminates all thatdamage :)
... I missed all of these.
If you sneakuo to de dwarf druid before healing you can take a crown that open the doors in the grove
Can you get the ring of protection after finishing the goblin camp mission and having the party?
why in the world did you jump off that cliff to ge the smugglers ring? that was totally unnecessary, you can just walk to it... To be able to get the quest from Mol just go save the kid from the harpies and the kid who tried to steal the idol and they will just let you in to the hideout.
If you steal the idol like that without being noticed, won't there be any consequence for the grove's story ?
Great video
Thanks!
There is any weapon like chain whip in BG3 ?
wait a sec i saved the grove by killing those shadow druid and spared kagha but she gave me nothing xD time to give her a visit to steal
also you're showing paths to get to places (the smugglers ring for one) that yes, sort of work, but holy god are you busy showing people how to get around their elbow to get to their nose. The smugglers ring is reachable simply by going south from the toll house and turning right instead of left to get to where Karlach was.
Thanks.
you're going waaay too fast showing the locations.
Mol never gave me the ring.
Would it be because I stole the Idol and gave it to her after the completion of the goblin leaders?
Same
Apparently yo have to do the idol stealing BEFORE you clear the goblin quest,because once you kill all the leaders it auto complete's Mol's quest, whether you had the quest or not.
I didn't get pales ride :( how do u get it
Best yeet Kagah and get Broodmother's Revenge
I use the smugglers ring with the gloves of Thievery(not in time stamps) which gives advantage on sleight of hand rolls.
I don’t really pay for anything anymore. Lol
Weird, pretty sure I got all of these, and didn't do it anything like you did, lol. I know I didn't steal anything or kill anyone though. But... thanks for the tips!
How do you move without clicking?
pressing and holding left mouse will make your character follow your cursor
@@timsahkelebek5901 158 hrs on release , 41 hrs in EA and i didn't know this :|
thats what i get for not being on reddit and community :D
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Thank you - map locations make it easy
Ill use fog to steal everything from now on