I own one. And it has been great so far. Had the first Gen as well. Sold it to my friend. Who likes it as well. Bought the 3-15x44 model a few months ago. I bought both on sale. Great warranty. And resale value if I ever decided to upgrade. Some people have had problems. But that is to be expected with how many that have been sold. I believe it was their best selling scope a while back.
I have one with the EBR-2D reticle MidwayUSA sells for $650. The clarity and chromatic aberration ,especially at the high end of the magnification, on mine is better than an Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 I had. YMMV.
It's fine. I can use it comfortably out to 1k without scope related issues and in a variety of positions on my 6ARC. Optical quality degrades at the higher magnifications and parallax tracking is a suggestion at best. The slightly bigger brother is a better option outside of weight considerations.
I had a pst gen 1... Send it for repair. Had a gen 2 instead of the repair. Gen 2 reticule failed after 20 308 shot. Send it for repair. The scope came back and then the elevation turret somehow dismount itself. Send back for repair. A brand new one came back... Sold it, problem solved 🤦
Great review, and i whole heartedly agree with it. There is one thing though that you left out in your comparison of it vs the strike eagle and that was actually why i chose the strike eagle. The strike eagle has 110 moa of vertical adjustment vs the 70 moa of the viper. I have 3 trainer rifles, a Vudoo V22 360 and two Bergara B14Rs. I put a 60 moa rail on the Vudoo and I am able to actually dial out to 510 yards with 105 moa i am left with having it zeroed at 50 yards. The 70 moa of the viper would have meant for my application that i would have had to use a 30 moa rail and only be able to dial to about 390 yards. The B14Rs i cheaped out and went with the venom on both of them, one is used for ara competition, and the other is my practice rifle for my Vudoo, so i don’t mess things up between competitions. Reason my practice rifle is what it is, i am a lefty and it was my cheapest option for a rifle that i could actually get my hands on that worked for me.
If you read the comments…Vector Optics advertises German glass for the Continental line. It would be great to see a review. I like the format of your reviews.
43:30 - Turrets completely broke off mine. PST Gen2 5-25 MRAD EBR7C. Posted a video. Had to send it in. And traded it (+cash) toward a LHT FFP with Vortex's upgrade service program. After that, I couldn't take this scope seriously further. And just went with used RHD G2 in future.
I bought this telescope at the beginning of the year and I don't regret it. I also had Venom and Strike Eagle 5-25x56 in my hand and I chose PST II with this reticle
Awesome review. I used to have a pst gen 2. It delivered and I regret selling it. I need an spr scope. Burris xtrii 3-15 are on sale for cheap right now. Are those any good? Or would I be better served with an optika 6 or something else? Thank you for your efforts.
Love the review and the comparisons but would love to see max zoom stepped out at incremental distances like 50, 100, 200 yard ranges. Then maybe the 400yrd rooftop and etc. Right now the big bore range segment has the distances to target varying and not clear to viewer while watching. Missed our visit to your ‘home away from home’ in this one
Great video as usual. Love your process and all the details you cover. Any chance you plan to do one for the new Leupold Mark 4HD? Specifically the 6-24x52 🤞
Isn't exit pupil just Objective Diameter divided by magnification? I don't know that you can change the exit pupil from one product to another, it is what it is.
The Arken EP-5 isn't quite as low as $300, but a used one for $350 still gets you quite a bit of optic per dollar. Quite literally actually, because it's a 1100g (39 oz) scope.
I have the Midway, USA edition, 5 to 25. No problems with it yet. I did send back three first vocal plane strike eagles. Now my PST GEN2 3 to 15 illumination is not working. I have never had more problems with a manufacturers product than Vortex.
I used to be a big fan of vortex but after experiencing other optics I tend to stay away from them although my viper Gen II is good so far but haven not used it too much.
@@bearmtn7 The only models they sell at those price point is not the one with the ebr7c reticle. Too many people do not understand it and just see that price and assume it includes all the models
My shootin buddy got him a new scope. After him and I both having viper gen2 with the ebr7c and guess what he went with….strike Eagle 3-18 ebr7c. Now for under $1000 he has optic and badger c1. But I’m stoked to see that strike Eagle
I don’t know the exact time of the year but I jumped on one for $599 and then soon after, they went down to $559. It wasn’t this exact reticle that I picked up but I thought they had them all for that price. Maybe not, I am still fairly new in the scope world.
I have a Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 it's ok but not fantastic especially after I bought 2 Arken EP5s and compared to the Tract Toric ELR it's really close. I don't think the Tract Toric ELR is worth the money I paid. I'm going to be buying more Arken EP5s and no more Athlon Cronus BTRs and Jo more Tract Toric ELRs. I actually prefer the HUGE view looking through the EP5s.
Possibly a noob question but why don't we see more MPVOs with capped turrets? I get the benefits of exposed or locking turrets but I could deal without them if using capped turrets brought the price down or channeled the cost into other features
Appreciate the excellent reviews and scope comparisons. Keep up the good work. With only 5 years warranty, the Bushnell MPED obviously doesn't have anywhere near the bulletproof warranty as the unconditional no questions asked VIP lifetime warranty that Vortex offers including free prepaid return shipping label provided by Vortex if warranty is even needed. The newest Arken EP5 is another scope begging to be reviewed and compared against the best scopes. The newest EP5's seem to have night and day far superior glass compared to their older EP5's. Don't buy an older used EP5 but a brand new one with the superior glass. You will find it noticeably clearer than the MPED and very close to if not clearer than the Viper PST Gen 2 and have far superior turrets. The newest Arken EPL4s are also worth taking the time to review though not quite as clear as the EP5, they are clearer than their much higher priced competitors and have far superior turrets as well.
Riflescope on every Bergara rifle on the planet: OMFG I had this scope on my Creed, Cant see shit at 700 and eyebox is F-c& linked directly to adjustement, if the scope is not in the perfect central zone, you will search your image and it will be blocked by the scope tube ( partial view) . Even the scope on my 17hmr is better then that and its a cheap Element Helix 6-24
That’s weird, I have one on my savage 110 tactical bolt gun 308, glass and clarity is excellent all the way to 25 power, almost on par with my vx-5’s, quality control must be off somewhere along the line.
You do THE best optic reviews, PERIOD. So good, informative, and unbiased.
I agree. But whenever the manufacturer starts buying them out they start producing bias content
I own one. And it has been great so far. Had the first Gen as well. Sold it to my friend. Who likes it as well. Bought the 3-15x44 model a few months ago. I bought both on sale. Great warranty. And resale value if I ever decided to upgrade. Some people have had problems. But that is to be expected with how many that have been sold. I believe it was their best selling scope a while back.
Outstanding! Long, but well done. Thanks!
I'd rather long and full then short and empty.
I love your videos man. They're super dry, but they have every bit of info I could ever want about these pieces of glass..
I have one with the EBR-2D reticle MidwayUSA sells for $650. The clarity and chromatic aberration ,especially at the high end of the magnification, on mine is better than an Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 I had. YMMV.
I have the exact same model
Managed to grab one with ebr-7c for $500,….. and slapped it on a ruger am. Don’t regret a thing
Another great video production. I especially like the comparisons to other scopes.
I got a Bergara B-14 300 PRC and 7 PRC suppressed with the Viper PST Gen 2 and I love it
It's fine. I can use it comfortably out to 1k without scope related issues and in a variety of positions on my 6ARC. Optical quality degrades at the higher magnifications and parallax tracking is a suggestion at best. The slightly bigger brother is a better option outside of weight considerations.
I had a pst gen 1... Send it for repair. Had a gen 2 instead of the repair. Gen 2 reticule failed after 20 308 shot. Send it for repair. The scope came back and then the elevation turret somehow dismount itself. Send back for repair. A brand new one came back... Sold it, problem solved 🤦
Vortex is hobby grade until you get to their razor line
@@seanpenn4405 woof: rough but probably the right take.
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Smells funny
Grain of salt
Great review, and i whole heartedly agree with it. There is one thing though that you left out in your comparison of it vs the strike eagle and that was actually why i chose the strike eagle. The strike eagle has 110 moa of vertical adjustment vs the 70 moa of the viper. I have 3 trainer rifles, a Vudoo V22 360 and two Bergara B14Rs. I put a 60 moa rail on the Vudoo and I am able to actually dial out to 510 yards with 105 moa i am left with having it zeroed at 50 yards. The 70 moa of the viper would have meant for my application that i would have had to use a 30 moa rail and only be able to dial to about 390 yards. The B14Rs i cheaped out and went with the venom on both of them, one is used for ara competition, and the other is my practice rifle for my Vudoo, so i don’t mess things up between competitions. Reason my practice rifle is what it is, i am a lefty and it was my cheapest option for a rifle that i could actually get my hands on that worked for me.
If you read the comments…Vector Optics advertises German glass for the Continental line. It would be great to see a review. I like the format of your reviews.
Yes Sir I have the 3-15-44 viper on my you guest it Bergara Wilderness 6.5 Creed and it’s peanut butter and jelly.
I have this exact optic in ffp, 2c, moa. Amazing optic that sold for $1.2k. At max zoom it does get fuzzy.
You're killing it with your reviews.👍 No more meopta comparison?
Over 400 rounds with my 308 on the Gen 1. No problems whatsoever. I do wish I had the Gen 2 glass. But it is hard to beat for $500.
I was googling comparisons between pst2 and mped…was not disappointed with this review thanks man
Exactly what you need in a review well done 👌🏼
Love your words from 9:43, can't beat Arkens's value. 🙂
I have that a version of that and love it. Good luck finding anything better at that price point, you won't
Best scope reviews out there!
43:30 - Turrets completely broke off mine. PST Gen2 5-25 MRAD EBR7C. Posted a video.
Had to send it in. And traded it (+cash) toward a LHT FFP with Vortex's upgrade service program.
After that, I couldn't take this scope seriously further. And just went with used RHD G2 in future.
I bought this telescope at the beginning of the year and I don't regret it. I also had Venom and Strike Eagle 5-25x56 in my hand and I chose PST II with this reticle
It’s just a great scope. On my 6.5 creed ar10 build. Vortex always comes correct.
You could attempt to get a warranty replacement due to the tracking disparity. Then you'll have 2 examples to test tracking.
I have one of these. Slightly older model with a EBR7C. The optical quality would be best described as “eh”.
Awesome review. I used to have a pst gen 2. It delivered and I regret selling it.
I need an spr scope. Burris xtrii 3-15 are on sale for cheap right now. Are those any good? Or would I be better served with an optika 6 or something else?
Thank you for your efforts.
Love the review and the comparisons but would love to see max zoom stepped out at incremental distances like 50, 100, 200 yard ranges. Then maybe the 400yrd rooftop and etc. Right now the big bore range segment has the distances to target varying and not clear to viewer while watching. Missed our visit to your ‘home away from home’ in this one
Great video as usual. Love your process and all the details you cover. Any chance you plan to do one for the new Leupold Mark 4HD? Specifically the 6-24x52 🤞
Keen on the optika 6 5-30 review. Got the PST2 and the vortex SE, but Thinking of selling my Vortex SE if the meopta turns out to be good
Isn't exit pupil just Objective Diameter divided by magnification? I don't know that you can change the exit pupil from one product to another, it is what it is.
I’ve always thought that as well.
You should do some more of the Arkens, I’d like to see you check out the epl-4 line as well as the ep5
Unbelievably fantastic scopes the new EP5s and EPL4s much better than their older ones.
The Arken EP-5 isn't quite as low as $300, but a used one for $350 still gets you quite a bit of optic per dollar. Quite literally actually, because it's a 1100g (39 oz) scope.
I have the Midway, USA edition, 5 to 25. No problems with it yet. I did send back three first vocal plane strike eagles. Now my PST GEN2 3 to 15 illumination is not working. I have never had more problems with a manufacturers product than Vortex.
I used to be a big fan of vortex but after experiencing other optics I tend to stay away from them although my viper Gen II is good so far but haven not used it too much.
Why do you stay away
I’m so confused… I’m not seeing this scope listed under 1000 anywhere… all you guys are getting it for under 700?
Theres the other pst models with a different reticles thats sells for that price point. The 5-25 ebr 7c is always at the 1k$ mark
Midway USA usually has at least one of the versions for 599 or 699
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The only models they sell at those price point is not the one with the ebr7c reticle. Too many people do not understand it and just see that price and assume it includes all the models
Weird that I can't see this through the typical channel
It’s Patreon
My shootin buddy got him a new scope. After him and I both having viper gen2 with the ebr7c and guess what he went with….strike Eagle 3-18 ebr7c. Now for under $1000 he has optic and badger c1. But I’m stoked to see that strike Eagle
Over the summer/fall MidwayUSA had em on sale for like $560 free shipping
650
I don’t know the exact time of the year but I jumped on one for $599 and then soon after, they went down to $559. It wasn’t this exact reticle that I picked up but I thought they had them all for that price. Maybe not, I am still fairly new in the scope world.
Ok scope for a budget but ide spend more on something nice. Once you do you'll never regret it
I felt attached with in the first 10sec 🤣 looking to put one of these on my bergara haha
Please review something from Tract. Ive been looking at the Toric 4.5-30 and theres very few reviews on it
I have a Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 it's ok but not fantastic especially after I bought 2 Arken EP5s and compared to the Tract Toric ELR it's really close. I don't think the Tract Toric ELR is worth the money I paid. I'm going to be buying more Arken EP5s and no more Athlon Cronus BTRs and Jo more Tract Toric ELRs. I actually prefer the HUGE view looking through the EP5s.
I like mine, must be among the few
Possibly a noob question but why don't we see more MPVOs with capped turrets? I get the benefits of exposed or locking turrets but I could deal without them if using capped turrets brought the price down or channeled the cost into other features
I'd love to see a review on the new vortex Venom 1-6 lpvo.
It's on my bergara b14r .22lr trainer.
Would this work well for 338 lapua mag. I'm new to long range. Picked one up for 699.00 shipped. Great vid subbd 👍
Appreciate the excellent reviews and scope comparisons. Keep up the good work.
With only 5 years warranty, the Bushnell MPED obviously doesn't have anywhere near the bulletproof warranty as the unconditional no questions asked VIP lifetime warranty that Vortex offers including free prepaid return shipping label provided by Vortex if warranty is even needed.
The newest Arken EP5 is another scope begging to be reviewed and compared against the best scopes. The newest EP5's seem to have night and day far superior glass compared to their older EP5's. Don't buy an older used EP5 but a brand new one with the superior glass. You will find it noticeably clearer than the MPED and very close to if not clearer than the Viper PST Gen 2 and have far superior turrets.
The newest Arken EPL4s are also worth taking the time to review though not quite as clear as the EP5, they are clearer than their much higher priced competitors and have far superior turrets as well.
Damn mines on my Bergara
Great Videos! You could do us a favour and compare the viper with a Sightron S 3 or S6
Any plans to review the Vortex FFP 1-8 Strike Eagle?
I paid $840.00 for mY PST GEN 2 but recieved a gift certificate for 100 dollars from midway USA so kinda like paying $740.00 kinda sorta?
Do you have any experience with the viper pst 6-24
I have the hs. I like it. I got on sale for $300. I don't think there's anything as good at that price.
I just bought a begara ridge 300 win mag and was gunna get a pst but now I don’t know
What distance did you do the tracking test at, 100y??
The LHT turrets feel mushy! Unfortunately
Spend a bit more and get a LHT
Anytime I use or hear the word "skookum" I want to say "focus you F**k" :)
that's a long ass scope I'd prefer LHT 4.5-22
No Midas Tac comparison? I think the Athlon wipes the floor with the Vortex
Riflescope on every Bergara rifle on the planet: OMFG
I had this scope on my Creed, Cant see shit at 700 and eyebox is F-c& linked directly to adjustement, if the scope is not in the perfect central zone, you will search your image and it will be blocked by the scope tube ( partial view) . Even the scope on my 17hmr is better then that and its a cheap Element Helix 6-24
That’s weird, I have one on my savage 110 tactical bolt gun 308, glass and clarity is excellent all the way to 25 power, almost on par with my vx-5’s, quality control must be off somewhere along the line.