Iron making, another iron bar from an iron bloom (2022)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Making iron an iron bar from bloomery furnace sponge iron at Paul Klaasen's forge, Smederij Klein Project.
The sponge iron, bloomery iron was produced at the DRU in Ulft by Adrien Morat. Tata Steel pellets were used in the furnace to produce this iron bloom. Aiding by striking was luc Meeuwisse
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What a reminder of how much work it took for every piece of iron/steel produced before modern processes. I enjoy the detailed documentary of the process.
I really did miss Joey’s videos. Glad he’s uploading a few again. Been going back and rewatching old videos.
Great to see you making videos again Joey
I hope you are well Joey. For some reason it occured to me today that I had not seen a video from you in a while. I just want to say thank you for sharing your knowlege with us over the years.
I miss all of your old videos.
The process of making true Wootz was thought to have been lost for many decades. Videos like this are invaluable in that they show the process of turning a bloom into metal that can be worked with; it would be a crying shame if future generations of smiths didn't have videos like this one to refer to. Thanks for documenting the process.
I don’t blacksmith at all but love to watch this one. I’ve watched it over and over, many times. I find it very relaxing.
Miss your videos Sir, it was very informative to me. It would be nice to have them back again
This was the first time I've seen anyone do a longitudinal fold to build up layers. I'd like to see the pattern you got.
Would there be a pattern at all? Only one type steel was used.
@@davesmith5656 Probably, but it wouldn't likely show well.
@@Jim-WadeIf it was polished the same was Japanese swords were, then very likely. This was the case with a 7th century knife, and it showed the weld lines and hamon.
I'm so fascinated by the whole process, all that work just to get out all those impurities, I could only imagine how hard it is even with the power hammer.
Joey, nice to see you doing videos again.
Very tired to remove iron slag you have put a lot of effort for this wonderful work
...now i see!... You're Technicus Joe! I've been following your old channel for long, i learnt so many things! Glad to see you again!!!
I love seeing the processes of metal being worked, allowing an insight into smithing. Your power hammer does quite the dance.
DAYMN! Now I know what I'll be dreaming about tonight!
What an amazing video!
Blessings Y'all
Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
Watching again while hunkering down for hurricane #Francine
Ive never blacksmithed so please dont jump all over me guys, im just asking a question: once ya get the bloom out of the fire, could you put it into a crucible and melt it down until it gets to a liquid state and then let it cool into a solid piece?
That's what they did as well. Though it was a difficult process and they did not understand the metallurgy as we understand it today.
What is yielded from the crucibles isn't always the same, depending on the ore, either yielding great quality iron, even steel, or really crappy quality, and everything in between.
Melting the bloom takes quite some time. Only much later you know if the iron or steel is any good, whilst using a lot of charcoal (precious fuel)
Forging will tell you quite quickly if the iron/steel is worth processing and that is how it was processed for a long time.
@@TechnicusJoe thank you for answering, ive machined for decades but only recently became interested in the black smithing side of things. I didnt know if it was even possible to take a bloom and put it in a crucible & melt the bloom. Especially without modern equipment. Very entertaining video/channel. Thank you very much for sharing. Hope you & yours are well, & be safe buddy.
@@Apathymiller --- Videos showing traditional (very old) katana sword making, show that the bloom was broken up, the bits of steel sorted based on the texture of the break. All I know is what I've seen on videos, but it seems to fit that not all of a bloom is going to be the required quality. After sorting, they apparently added rice chaff to keep the carbon content, and judged everything by color of the steel. Making the bloom from iron sand or whatever took something like 36 hours of constant tending a huge furnace, by the head guy in the process.
@@davesmith5656 yeah without modern furnaces & equipment it seems it would take a very long time. Like you said there is varying degrees of quality in the bloom, good point. I was mainly curious if the bloom could even be done in a "wootz" style and melted down.
@@TechnicusJoeHow many folds do you usually perform when consolidating a bloom? Also any resources regarding that?
My god that is some effort 😂 huge respect to our ancestors!!
I love these videos!
Super nice 🙇♂️
This is the most satisfying thing true the centuries
You can actually see it purity raise as they hammer and fold it. the iron make less scale the purer it gets. I wonder what it purity is before and after.
Will you post what you make from this bar?
I'd like to see how you would turn this into something, please. Thanks
A piece of iron or steel processed like this has got to be worth a lot given the amount of time and effort given to create it!?!?
1st maybe! Let's watch
Magnifique 👍
Hi Joey. My understanding - from watching yours, and other blacksmithing channels is that the actual forge welding process requires very quick, relatively light hammer blows. But, could you please explain why you use a double hammer technique first and then go on to the power hammer? I mean, could the power hammer not perform both functions with varying weight/frequency blows?
Regards Mark in the UK
It is easier to sqeeze the slag out by hand. From middle to edge. They use the powerhammer only to s tretch it.
I'm late to this video, trying to learn a bit about the process, are these guys using some kind of flux (like silica & borax or some such) when folding and hammering? Or does this process/material not require it?
Question: At this point its mostly Iron or already can be considered steel? to be proper Steel you have to add carbon to it?
Are you using borax every time you heat up?
Question I never see you using flux, do you?
I've watched a lot of your videos and seems like you know quite a bit about anvils. I recently bought an anvil which has a heart with two arrows(they're at a 90° angle to each other) stamped into into it and I'm pretty sure that's the makers mark. Do you know what manufacturer that could be?
Are these blooms from multiple smelts of the same furnace, or chunks of bloom from one smelt?
The closed captioning is funny, as usual, translating hammer blows into "so", and "foxes". What a creative artificial intelligence. Some day in an automobile it will issue a "Terrain! Terrain! Pull up! Pull up!" warning at a stop light.
How to identify iron ore rich mineral soil? You never showed the bloom.
You clearly skipped the video if you did not see the bloom.
How do you know when you have folded enough?
WERE ARE THE OLD VIDEOS ??????????????????????????????
Is this like Wootz Damascus, because it’s bloomery steel, what’s the carbon content? Just curious what end result was on bloom. Love your videos as always
No, wootz is very different, this is just iron. Wrought iron.
Wootz Damascus started from one mine in the ME, not really near Damascus, but well south of it. The ore (now gone) had a particular content of trace minerals. Similar ore was later discovered in India. Wootz isn't folded pattern from different alloys; the pattern comes from the trace minerals, and even though parts of the smelting process are known or guessed at, apparently no one has succeeded in reproducing the alloy because the trace elements are present in too small a percentage for even today's analytics. You probably knew all that, from the same video I watched.
Where have you been. Get back on TH-cam. The world needs to have a rebar anvil.
Hallo Joey, Geen kans dat je oude video "JoeDeSmid" terug actief worden? Om de trollen geen kans te geven, mogelijk zonder de "comments" actief te zetten? Je video zijn/waren echt goed. Mvg Herbie
#2 looks about the same as #1 but you did not fold #1 ene to end at the end like you did with #2 will be neet to see it after you grind and etch it.......... be well and be safe