I know one of the Bellows editors. He's sharp and got very down-to-earth pro-working-class politics. Very little of this PMC-liberal bullshit so many other journalists have.
It was 3am in my house and I literally laughed out loud. He has some Zingers if u watch him enough. Said Oprah was so rich god has to go to her for a title loan. Said he’s never heard something from Coates that u can’t get from a fortune 🔮 cookie 🍪, just to name a couple
I almost spat my coffee out when he said that. Its good to hear someone outside #ados talk about that antagonism, and am left wondering who he was on about, or if he meant collectively.
Jacobin would be scared to publish this critique now without running several rebuttals immediately after or in the same issue. Jacobin = DSA = Militant Liberalism
There are 4 factions (at least) on the left people who pay attention to politics are aware of: The socialists (different flavours), liberal progressives, social liberals, and people captured by the capitalist class that serve their interests. All of these groups have one thing in common. They agree that there are facts about reality that can be known and that there are better and worse methods to unearth those facts because humans have a tendency to like facts that confirm their priors. There’s a more recent faction on the left though. This faction has abandoned class struggle as the thing to care about,. They’re interested in the struggles of identity groups which profoundly hampers #solidarity movements ability to achieve their goals. Yes it’s true Marxists have been fighting this idea for decades, an idea that has now fused identity over class with the postmodern ideas that discourse is the method that creates the oppressor/oppressed binary. The trouble with the postmodern contribution to this factions thinking is that it’s not interested in facts about reality, nor is it interested in reasoned debate about its ideas. We may be late to the party, sorry, but this new faction isn’t liberal. Liberalism accepts methods that unearth facts about reality (the scientific method) and it accepts reasoned debate. So I get that you guys see any kind of liberalism as your foe, but if you keep misdiagnosing what this new faction is you’ll get the solution wrong. I like to call the most recent iteration of this faction raified postmodernism. It’s illiberal. It says it is antiliberal in the output it generates. It may have been cooped by the capitalist class as a tool to do achieve its own ends as you say, but it’s still not liberal. The critical theorists who’ve been pumping out this stuff for decades, and this latest iteration since the 80’s now have all their students across our institutions and business HR departments primed and ready to go. Liberal citizens don’t want corporations to use this new tool to fire people from their jobs just like you don’t. We’d like to join you in pushing this new faction back to the fringe where they belong, but it’s harder if some if you keep pointing in the wrong direction. Please look up the web site created by liberals to fight back against this nonsense newdiscourses.com
Just pay da Debt Due ADOS via Reparations. #ADOS THAT coupled with a Debt Jubilee for ADOS solves the problem for my lineage. As for everyone else perhaps they need to get their politicians to enforce da regulations for so long ignored and defanged.
excellent guests, great interview; i appreciated that the interviewer let his guests speak at length without interruptions.
It's such a privilege to hear Reed and Michaels interviewed together
They're both upset that you used the word "privilege" lol
Reed and Michaels hitting the nail on the head better than anyone
Thank you very much! Gonna be sharing this around Portland, Maine!
Tkanks Brothers! Love your work, things are really bad in here in Sweden too, so keep on the good work camrades!
Very seriously considering a Bellows subscription after watching this
www.patreon.com/thebellows :)
I know one of the Bellows editors. He's sharp and got very down-to-earth pro-working-class politics. Very little of this PMC-liberal bullshit so many other journalists have.
Lord... Adolf was spicy 🌶 with the race hustling Nigerian comment!
I love it! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
It was 3am in my house and I literally laughed out loud. He has some Zingers if u watch him enough. Said Oprah was so rich god has to go to her for a title loan. Said he’s never heard something from Coates that u can’t get from a fortune 🔮 cookie 🍪, just to name a couple
I almost spat my coffee out when he said that. Its good to hear someone outside #ados talk about that antagonism, and am left wondering who he was on about, or if he meant collectively.
1:01:20 That’s quite the telling anecdote. September, 18th, 1895 - had to look that up. Booker T. Washington’s “Atlanta Compromise”
Damn!
I can hear and see you.
good stuff ty.
Based Jacobin
Jacobin would be scared to publish this critique now without running several rebuttals immediately after or in the same issue. Jacobin = DSA = Militant Liberalism
@@Wobbothe3rd Oh, some of us in DSA are very much Adolph Reed-pilled
@@Wobbothe3rd Jacobin hosted talks by both guests on their TH-cam loool
BIPOC = the Bipolar Caucus
That was pretty funny. (59:35)
There are 4 factions (at least) on the left people who pay attention to politics are aware of: The socialists (different flavours), liberal progressives, social liberals, and people captured by the capitalist class that serve their interests. All of these groups have one thing in common. They agree that there are facts about reality that can be known and that there are better and worse methods to unearth those facts because humans have a tendency to like facts that confirm their priors. There’s a more recent faction on the left though. This faction has abandoned class struggle as the thing to care about,. They’re interested in the struggles of identity groups which profoundly hampers #solidarity movements ability to achieve their goals. Yes it’s true Marxists have been fighting this idea for decades, an idea that has now fused identity over class with the postmodern ideas that discourse is the method that creates the oppressor/oppressed binary.
The trouble with the postmodern contribution to this factions thinking is that it’s not interested in facts about reality, nor is it interested in reasoned debate about its ideas. We may be late to the party, sorry, but this new faction isn’t liberal. Liberalism accepts methods that unearth facts about reality (the scientific method) and it accepts reasoned debate. So I get that you guys see any kind of liberalism as your foe, but if you keep misdiagnosing what this new faction is you’ll get the solution wrong. I like to call the most recent iteration of this faction raified postmodernism. It’s illiberal. It says it is antiliberal in the output it generates. It may have been cooped by the capitalist class as a tool to do achieve its own ends as you say, but it’s still not liberal. The critical theorists who’ve been pumping out this stuff for decades, and this latest iteration since the 80’s now have all their students across our institutions and business HR departments primed and ready to go. Liberal citizens don’t want corporations to use this new tool to fire people from their jobs just like you don’t. We’d like to join you in pushing this new faction back to the fringe where they belong, but it’s harder if some if you keep pointing in the wrong direction. Please look up the web site created by liberals to fight back against this nonsense newdiscourses.com
😂
The problem is that average American worker doesn't even know what you mean by "labor" and don't think of themselves as "workers" or "working class"
Just pay da Debt Due ADOS via Reparations.
#ADOS
THAT coupled with a Debt Jubilee for ADOS solves the problem for my lineage.
As for everyone else perhaps they need to get their politicians to enforce da regulations for so long ignored and defanged.