If you want to get a blank stare, walk into your local drugstore and ask for Stopette. When the clerk asks what's that, say you know, the sponsor of the Sunday night show with the popular columnist and that delightful star of stage and television.
On the Fourth of July weekend earlier this month, I was grilling for 20+ people in 90+ degree temperatures. Sweating profusely, I blurted out "I could use some Stopette". Lots of blank stares from the folks who heard me. Those poor folks weren't turned on to this wonderful channel.
@@mikejschin I get a kick out of saying obscure things out loud to watch the puzzled facial expressions. Only the "cool kids" get it. Recently I said, "As Joe. E. Brown would say, "Well, nobody's perfect!" Not one person understood what that meant.
I think James Michener did a great job as a first-time guest panelist. As far as I can tell from a TH-cam search, he only came back once in 1959. I would have invited him back more often.
He was always getting fascinated by research and travel for a book he would write. I'm thinking he just had too many irons in the fire to have more time for WML.
So glad to see a frenchman (Charles Boyer) coming from a little town in the south of France (Figeac, not so far from Toulouse where I live) from which also came (in the eighteenth century) Jean-François Champollion, the first translator of Egyptian hieroglyphics. But Charles Boyer's story is a very sad one, as it ends with his son suicide, and his own suicide 13 years later, 2 days after his wife's death from a cancer.
Thank you for giving us the sad information after all that you said. I never knew that about Charles Boyer. The one film I saw him in the first time was with Hedy Lamar and I cried a lot at the end. It was set in Morocco and the name only escapes me right now, but I am sure that one of you knows which film I mean. Aside : I live in Montreal Québec Canada and we have French here and as you know, it is not the French the French speak in France.
@@christystrike4751: The name of the movie is "Algiers". He was great in "Gaslight" Too. I think he was great in every movie he ever done. He was a great actor.
The film where Charles Boyer appeared opposite Olivia de Havilland was 'Hold Back the Dawn', which I saw on TV some years ago (when TV showed old movies and not just the latest comic-franchise rubbish). It is a great film and they are both magnificent in it.
I just watched it. He was truly the biggest rat in the world for doing that to poor Olivia, but he seemed like such a nice, cool guy that you rooted for him to see the light. Excellent movie, had never heard of it before.
James Hagerty is the only person to serve two full Presidential terms as White House Press Secretary. He was also the first Press Secretary to televise the press conferences (starting in 1955). Therefore, when it was asked if the public might recognize his face, that fact made it more likely. It appears that Hagerty and John Daly had a professional friendship. Ironically, when Eisenhower left the presidency and Hagerty completed his terms as Press Secretary, he became a vice president of the ABC television network. But Daly had resigned his position as vice president of the same network two months earlier because ABC had chosen to show children's cartoons on Election Day evening while CBS and NBC had already begun election coverage.
Guest contestant Joyce Vidbel seemed like a demure, reserved individual with a delightful smile. And then we learn she was an elephant trainer! Humility and courage have their rewards.
Oh gosh. James Michener. That name brings me back, I had to read one of his books in school, The Source. Very long book. Don't think I've ever seen him in person, I want to see how he does as a panelist
I was really glad when James Michener guessed the second contestant--he was a terrific guest panelist. He asked interesting questions, played the game really well and was really funny too. I thought he was more engaging than Martin Gabel (sorry, Arlene).
Gary, in the video description you list Charles Boyer as "film actor"; based on the discussion "actor" might be better, since he had played on the New York stage and on television as well.
Does anyone know why March 17 would have been significant to the White House Press Secretary? That's the last question Arlene asks before she guesses him.
James Hagerty came from an Irish Catholic family. Arlene (with a whispered assist from Bennett) was trying to narrow down from the three positions she named to one. My assumption is that the other two office holders did not have an Irish background.
+Landis Hagerty Growing up at that time (and being somewhat precocious), the Eisenhower administration is the first Presidential administration that I was aware of and remember. (When I was born, Eisenhower was President-Elect.) From a young age, I developed a strong interest in learning about our country and everything about it (history, politics, geography, etc.). Being Hungarian on my mother's side and seeing three cousins arrive here as refugees after the Soviet Union put down the Hungarian Revolution stoked my interest in the Cold War and geopolitics early on as well. Before I was 8 years old, I knew about and can still remember events during the Eisenhower administration such as Nixon's Kitchen Debate with Khrushchev, Khrushchev banging his shoe on the table at the UN, and Gary Powers being shot down over the Soviet Union. And because he was a frequent face of the Eisenhower administration, I remembered your great grandfather, James C. Hagerty. I will admit needing to look up some of the details that I posted previously on this episode, but I knew the name as soon as he signed in and before his line appeared on screen. I recognized his name almost as well as I would have recognized John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Christian Herter or William Rogers. In addition, I graduated from Cornell in 1974 with a degree in Government (called Political Science at many universities). And in my younger days, I was involved in a couple of political campaigns and local politics. In general, I know a lot about a few things, a little bit about a lot of things, and remember enough key words and phrases to be able to find out more and fill in the gaps on many topics, whether it is through research or asking questions of those with greater expertise.
Concerning the prison guard, now known as Correctional Officer, the 1957 audience was amused by the thought that a prison could be for-profit, when now large, profit making corporations operate for-profit prisons. Even more amazing, her prison has the same name as a woman who decades later would become the most renown American criminal
Nearly three months after this episode aired, on June 4, 1957, the Yankees received infielder Clete Boyer from the Kansas City Athletics as one of the players to be named later in a trade that was on February 19, 1957. Clete would have been included in the trade earlier except that under the bonus baby rules he had to remain with the A's until he spent two full years on the A's major league roster. Commissioner Ford Frick sent him back to Kansas City and there he stayed, rarely used, until the two years was fulfilled. It was a rare instance when a player to be named later was also named in the beginning. The Yankees immediately sent him to the minors, but brought back to the big club at the start of the 1959 season and he became their starting third baseman the following year, a position he held through the 1966 season, during which time his solid defensive play helped them win five pennants and two World Series. Clete was one of three brothers who made the majors out of seven brothers who all signed professional baseball contracts. Ken was an even better all around player at third base and Cloyd was a pitcher for a short time in the majors. However, the family did not favor the French pronunciation by which actor Charles Boyer (boy-YAY) was known. They were the BOY-er brothers.
@Lois Simmons: I think its interesting to note that Clete's brother, Ken, played against him fielding third base for the St. Louis Cardinals in the 1964 World Series which the Cards won. All the Boyer brothers hail from my home state. Go Cards!
@@jp0308 Ken and Clete appeared as Mystery Guests on WML? in connection with their 1964 World Series appearance. It aired on 10/11/64. Ken was born in Liberty, MO; Clete in Cassville, MO.
Miss Joyce Vidbel was named after me, her parents liked my name. Just kidding ofcourse. My mother probably named me after the writer/poet Joyce Kilmer, she liked poetry, Lol!
Joyce with, from left, Bombay, Siam, and Delhi, in about 1957. photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5731/2710/1600/JOYCE%20V.0.jpg (The Vidbels are something of a circus dynasty; Joyce and her husband Alfred worked for Ringling Bros and various other circuses, and started Vidbels Old Tyme Circus in 1984 (which lasted until about 2012); their kids & grandkids still work with elephants/other animals. (One of them does an aerial act, instead.))
His books are FABULOUS reading ...except i usually skip over the first hundred pages as he details how a cave came to be formed that cones into play in current times.
James Michener gives me the creeps. He's got that perv type of thing going with how he's constantly objectifying women contestants and sexualizing his queries. It gives me the willies. Ugh. Not as bad as Hal Block but still got the creep factor working.
Boy it doesn’t take much to label guys as pervs. Hal Bock was just crass rather than a pervasive, Michener is appreciative and didn’t sexualize, Cerf loved women as women. Every little thing is objectifying, sexualizing. None were pervs.
![What's My Line? - Dr. Norman Vincent Peale; Judy Holliday; Robert Preston [panel] (Mar 17, 1957)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ejmc5STZ3yg/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Dr. Norman Vincent Peale; Judy Holliday; Robert Preston [panel] (Mar 17, 1957)](/img/tr.png)
![What's My Line? - Julius LaRosa; Stubby Kaye [panel] (Jul 21, 1957)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CDfSvxsJdLM/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Y. A. Tittle; Charles Boyer; Tony Randall [panel] (Nov 17, 1963)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ByHwP7roQZM/mqdefault.jpg)
![What's My Line? - Cyril Ritchard; Robert Preston [panel] (Dec 22, 1957)](/img/n.gif)
Charles Boyer appears to be very humble and kind.
He was hilarious as a guest on I Love Lucy about a year before this WML.
It's hard not to love the great Charles Boyer.
The elephant trainer girl is so adorable, her smile kept me smiling! 😊
I agree,
I fell in love with her and the prison guards smiles🙂
Shave elephants?
I agree, her smile was contagious and pretty abs made her very attractive.
Before he came out, I figured there was no way Charles Boyer could disguise his voice, but he proved me wrong.
If you want to get a blank stare, walk into your local drugstore and ask for Stopette. When the clerk asks what's that, say you know, the sponsor of the Sunday night show with the popular columnist and that delightful star of stage and television.
Very interestink🙂
On the Fourth of July weekend earlier this month, I was grilling for 20+ people in 90+ degree temperatures. Sweating profusely, I blurted out "I could use some Stopette". Lots of blank stares from the folks who heard me. Those poor folks weren't turned on to this wonderful channel.
You can also add that it was invented by a famous cosmetic chemist.
Bigwave has suggest a great opening scene for a sci fi time travel movie.
@@mikejschin I get a kick out of saying obscure things out loud to watch the puzzled facial expressions. Only the "cool kids" get it. Recently I said, "As Joe. E. Brown would say, "Well, nobody's perfect!" Not one person understood what that meant.
Such a joy to watch these shows.
I think James Michener did a great job as a first-time guest panelist. As far as I can tell from a TH-cam search, he only came back once in 1959. I would have invited him back more often.
he’s probably the most brilliant panelist they ever had but he has no talent for this show.
He was always getting fascinated by research and travel for a book he would write. I'm thinking he just had too many irons in the fire to have more time for WML.
@@debbigray1752Exactly 😊
James Michener was a wonderful writer prolific and knowledgeable - "The source" is a great book.
So glad to see a frenchman (Charles Boyer) coming from a little town in the south of France (Figeac, not so far from Toulouse where I live) from which also came (in the eighteenth century) Jean-François Champollion, the first translator of Egyptian hieroglyphics.
But Charles Boyer's story is a very sad one, as it ends with his son suicide, and his own suicide 13 years later, 2 days after his wife's death from a cancer.
So sad. Thank you for the info.
😢😢😢
Thank you for giving us the sad information after all that you said. I never knew that about Charles Boyer. The one film I saw him in the first time was with Hedy Lamar and I cried a lot at the end. It was set in Morocco and the name only escapes me right now, but I am sure that one of you knows which film I mean.
Aside : I live in Montreal Québec Canada and we have French here and as you know, it is not the French the French speak in France.
@@christystrike4751: The name of the movie is "Algiers". He was great in "Gaslight" Too. I think he was great in every movie he ever done. He was a great actor.
😭😭😭😭😭
The film where Charles Boyer appeared opposite Olivia de Havilland was 'Hold Back the Dawn', which I saw on TV some years ago (when TV showed old movies and not just the latest comic-franchise rubbish). It is a great film and they are both magnificent in it.
I just watched it. He was truly the biggest rat in the world for doing that to poor Olivia, but he seemed like such a nice, cool guy that you rooted for him to see the light. Excellent movie, had never heard of it before.
@@Jhensy2012 Glad you liked it. Overlooked but great film, full of complexities. Billy Wilder was one of the script writers.
Utube for old movies😊
Watch Charles Boyer in I Love Lucy. It was great!!!
Charles Boyer was great in "Barefoot In The Park" with Robert Redford and Jane Fonda
Such a delightful film. Magnificent cast.
Wow, I guess my memory isn't that bad being 87. And remember this movie😊
Great movie. One of my favorites. The Bratters.
James Hagerty is the only person to serve two full Presidential terms as White House Press Secretary. He was also the first Press Secretary to televise the press conferences (starting in 1955). Therefore, when it was asked if the public might recognize his face, that fact made it more likely.
It appears that Hagerty and John Daly had a professional friendship. Ironically, when Eisenhower left the presidency and Hagerty completed his terms as Press Secretary, he became a vice president of the ABC television network. But Daly had resigned his position as vice president of the same network two months earlier because ABC had chosen to show children's cartoons on Election Day evening while CBS and NBC had already begun election coverage.
I love it when you guys know interesting little details like that. 👍🏻
I saw this particular program today and just HAD to do some background research . . . . fascinating!
Charles Boyer was married to his wife for 44 years.
Couldn't live without her, and killed himself two days after her death in 1978.
@@markshere100 I posted the same thing earlier almost verbatim.
Charles Boyer is wonderful. :)
Guest contestant Joyce Vidbel seemed like a demure, reserved individual with a delightful smile. And then we learn she was an elephant trainer! Humility and courage have their rewards.
Oh gosh. James Michener. That name brings me back, I had to read one of his books in school, The Source. Very long book. Don't think I've ever seen him in person, I want to see how he does as a panelist
I was really glad when James Michener guessed the second contestant--he was a terrific guest panelist. He asked interesting questions, played the game really well and was really funny too. I thought he was more engaging than Martin Gabel (sorry, Arlene).
John Daily, "I can't name the network because its NBC and we are on CBS". Funny 😄
Slip of the tounge😂
Loved South Pacific!
Gary, in the video description you list Charles Boyer as "film actor"; based on the discussion "actor" might be better, since he had played on the New York stage and on television as well.
I've had a crush on him for years!!!!! (Charles Boyer)
I suspect you were one of millions. Good taste, he was such a sweet guy.
If i was the elephant "of" such a trainer, id be Smiling Ear to Humongous Ear. 😊☺️😊😊🎨🧸
Charles Boer was exceedingly handsome, and so debonair! 🥰💕
I was just a 7 year old so I had no idea who Hagerty was or thereafter.
13:49 I love John so much : )
Will you still love him when he divorces his wife, and marries a woman 15 years younger😮
Arlene wins the best dress award!
Dorothy must have left home in a hurry, though she managed to grab a fortune to go round her neck!
Wish they would revive this show!!
Today we do not the elegance, the manners, the celebrity’s that they had then. These people had class. It’s all gone now.
Not happening 😢
@@keithnaylor1981Absolutely agree totally 😊
love Arlene's dress
Disagree. Yuck.
@@Mmdmade70 years ago her dress was very acceptable and was all the rage😊
Sad end for Charles Boyer. His son committed suicide at age 21 and he committed suicide two days after his wife died of cancer
Has anybody started a WML fan club..
yes on facebook
Does anyone know why March 17 would have been significant to the White House Press Secretary? That's the last question Arlene asks before she guesses him.
James Hagerty came from an Irish Catholic family. Arlene (with a whispered assist from Bennett) was trying to narrow down from the three positions she named to one. My assumption is that the other two office holders did not have an Irish background.
Caitlin Fitzpatrick Why It's St. Patrick's Day of course. Sacred to the Irish.
St Patty's day.... Hagerty is an Irish name...🙂
@@loissimmons6558 You seem to know a great bit about my great grandfather, James C. Hagerty. How did you come to explore that subject?
+Landis Hagerty
Growing up at that time (and being somewhat precocious), the Eisenhower administration is the first Presidential administration that I was aware of and remember. (When I was born, Eisenhower was President-Elect.) From a young age, I developed a strong interest in learning about our country and everything about it (history, politics, geography, etc.). Being Hungarian on my mother's side and seeing three cousins arrive here as refugees after the Soviet Union put down the Hungarian Revolution stoked my interest in the Cold War and geopolitics early on as well.
Before I was 8 years old, I knew about and can still remember events during the Eisenhower administration such as Nixon's Kitchen Debate with Khrushchev, Khrushchev banging his shoe on the table at the UN, and Gary Powers being shot down over the Soviet Union. And because he was a frequent face of the Eisenhower administration, I remembered your great grandfather, James C. Hagerty. I will admit needing to look up some of the details that I posted previously on this episode, but I knew the name as soon as he signed in and before his line appeared on screen. I recognized his name almost as well as I would have recognized John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Christian Herter or William Rogers.
In addition, I graduated from Cornell in 1974 with a degree in Government (called Political Science at many universities). And in my younger days, I was involved in a couple of political campaigns and local politics.
In general, I know a lot about a few things, a little bit about a lot of things, and remember enough key words and phrases to be able to find out more and fill in the gaps on many topics, whether it is through research or asking questions of those with greater expertise.
WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY
ELEPHANT TRAINER
PRISON GUARD
Concerning the prison guard, now known as Correctional Officer, the 1957 audience was amused by the thought that a prison could be for-profit, when now large, profit making corporations operate for-profit prisons. Even more amazing, her prison has the same name as a woman who decades later would become the most renown American criminal
Seems like Mr. Michener was desperately seeking an Adventure in Paradise.
Well put. I was laughing so hard because he's on a family show on a Sunday night and his mind went straight to burlesque, to use a euphemism.
Nearly three months after this episode aired, on June 4, 1957, the Yankees received infielder Clete Boyer from the Kansas City Athletics as one of the players to be named later in a trade that was on February 19, 1957. Clete would have been included in the trade earlier except that under the bonus baby rules he had to remain with the A's until he spent two full years on the A's major league roster. Commissioner Ford Frick sent him back to Kansas City and there he stayed, rarely used, until the two years was fulfilled. It was a rare instance when a player to be named later was also named in the beginning.
The Yankees immediately sent him to the minors, but brought back to the big club at the start of the 1959 season and he became their starting third baseman the following year, a position he held through the 1966 season, during which time his solid defensive play helped them win five pennants and two World Series.
Clete was one of three brothers who made the majors out of seven brothers who all signed professional baseball contracts. Ken was an even better all around player at third base and Cloyd was a pitcher for a short time in the majors. However, the family did not favor the French pronunciation by which actor Charles Boyer (boy-YAY) was known. They were the BOY-er brothers.
Thanx...🙂
I'm also a big fan of the Boyer bros.
@Lois Simmons: I think its interesting to note that Clete's brother, Ken, played against him fielding third base for the St. Louis Cardinals in the 1964 World Series which the Cards won. All the Boyer brothers hail from my home state. Go Cards!
@@jp0308 Ken and Clete appeared as Mystery Guests on WML? in connection with their 1964 World Series appearance. It aired on 10/11/64.
Ken was born in Liberty, MO; Clete in Cassville, MO.
Always extremely accurate and informative 😊
Cute elephant trainer
The prison guard contester looks an awful lot like Judy Garland.
Miss Joyce Vidbel was named after me, her parents liked my name. Just kidding ofcourse. My mother probably named me after the writer/poet Joyce Kilmer, she liked poetry, Lol!
Joyce Kilmer was actually a man named Alfred Joyce. K.
@@enriquesanchez2001 I know, I had one of his books from the library when I was a kid.
@@joycejean-baptiste4355 Wonderful! He certainly was fascinating but so sad how he died in the war :(
elephants prickly ???
Yes they are. They have very coarse hair on their hide.
@@susanmoon8043 So does my ex-wife. Very prickly lady.
RIP Vickie Negoescu (1924-2016) obits.nj.com/obituaries/hunterdoncountydemocrat/obituary.aspx?n=violette-wolger-negoescu&pid=180226172
Was Michener suggesting that the elephant trainer might be a stripper? That was awkward.
Joyce with, from left, Bombay, Siam, and Delhi, in about 1957.
photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5731/2710/1600/JOYCE%20V.0.jpg
(The Vidbels are something of a circus dynasty; Joyce and her husband Alfred worked for Ringling Bros and various other circuses, and started Vidbels Old Tyme Circus in 1984 (which lasted until about 2012); their kids & grandkids still work with elephants/other animals. (One of them does an aerial act, instead.))
On face book?.. l must admit l am not on face book..
Don't bother it's a cesspool 😮
Why does Cerf have to ask where the contestant's location is?
It may give him a clue about their line😊
One answer should have been "yes," because as the president's press secretary, he WAS a "performer"!
😂
Thank goodness they got rid of elephant training for the purpose of circuses are elephants are no longer permitted to be used.
The president's name was a well kept secret.
"Present company excluded" If Mr. Daly was not an Elephant, could he have been a Donkey?
The elephant trainer: Yet another contestant who has to look at Daly to answer each question.
She was young and unfamiliar with the game😊
James Michener was a bit creepy.
His books are FABULOUS reading ...except i usually skip over the first hundred pages as he details how a cave came to be formed that cones into play in current times.
it's a shame that 99.9999% of the public today couldn't name the White House Press secretary
That was posted 3 years ago.
These days, nearly everyone can name Sarah Huckabee Sanders!
@Mark Richardson ????? Could you do a better job?
Not as much as 99%, but it’s a shame so much of what the press Secretary says is duplicitous
It's 2024 and everyone knows the 2 face lier😮
James Michener gives me the creeps. He's got that perv type of thing going with how he's constantly objectifying women contestants and sexualizing his queries. It gives me the willies. Ugh. Not as bad as Hal Block but still got the creep factor working.
I thought the same thing. Old Bennett could be a bit of a horn dog too.
Boy it doesn’t take much to label guys as pervs. Hal Bock was just crass rather than a pervasive, Michener is appreciative and didn’t sexualize, Cerf loved women as women. Every little thing is objectifying, sexualizing. None were pervs.
@@OperaJH Exactly agree 👍
Elephants must prefer hugely introverted trainers.